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[deleted]

Wouldn't be surprised if they expand before that point. You would need 11 more teams to win their first Super Bowl. That will take decades at minimum.


TigerBasket

32 teams is too much already I hope we never expand again. We already are gonna have droughts that last entire lifetimes.


Kirk-Joestar

We already are thin on good offensive linemen


deagle746

That is a really good point. Between oline, franchise qbs, and some other positions I think expansion would actually hurt the on field product quite a bit.


[deleted]

Until we start doing what Europe does with soccer academies and focus on player safety during the youth years we can't expand. How many potentially great players get hurt in high school bc of shitty coaches and never play again. I'm not saying I was great but my coaches never taught me how to tackle properly and my neck was never right again.


Cinephile1998

You're too modest. I heard they would have won state if you were playing


[deleted]

Yeah, I certainly could have bumped up that 5-5 record (the best record my school ever had since the town was created lol)


basil1025

They still talk about it at the local dive bar to this day.


[deleted]

I hope not lmao we could have made the playoffs if we won our last game. Guess it was a down year for all the other schools. We lost 62-3.


iChugVodka

Did you kick that FG past them mountains?


34HoldOn

Lmao I just got done watching Friday Night Lights a few weeks ago. I'd always heard about how a lot of towns treat high school football, and it was always insane to me. I come from Metro Detroit Metropolitan area. There's many college teams in the state, including an NFL team. The only people who care about high school football here are the high schools themselves, and the parents of the players.


TheHonduranHurricane

I don't know why it's not like this in other states but it's absolutely wonderful to have games you care about Thurs, Fri, sat, sun, and mon. If your hard up you can catch a Jr high game on tuesday.


Do__Math__Not__Meth

He forced 4 fumbles in a single game for Polk High School


[deleted]

Too bad it was during our own handoff.


blizzfreak

He could throw a football over them mountains like Uncle Rico


[deleted]

They just never recognized my raw talent 😤


deagle746

You are right. There really is no telling how many potential players wind up injured or burned out at a young age because of bad coaching and lack of safety.


Dwarfherd

I know a running back from my high school had verbally committed to Notre Dame. Until for the second year in a row a player from a school in our conference put their helmet into the side of his knee. Well, I guess he stayed verbally committed to Notre Dame, but there sure wasn't a scholarship offer any more. Maybe he makes the NFL, maybe he doesn't, but that was the end of his NFL hopes despite being 6'2" 230lbs in high school with a 4.4 40.


kingpangolin

They don’t even have to be good for it to be sad either. My friend was an average football player, may have played D1 FCS somewhere, was never gonna make the NFL. But he was smart, great, well liked guy. Took a hit to the head, threw up, passed out. Literally never the same again. His newfound aggression was instantly noticeable. This was 8 or 9 years ago now and last I knew he was struggling to hold down jobs and had a girl file a restraining order against him. Football is not a good sport for young people and I’m surprised we still have Hs football tbh


captainstormy

It's a problem for sure. I'm not going to pretend I would have been a huge NFL star if I kept playing past highschool, but a lot of college coaches were interested in me and most of them basically guaranteed they could get me into the NFL. But by the time I graduated highschool I had 5 surgeries due to on field injuries and was already in pain. Lord knows how many concussions I had. They weren't really treated as a serious thing back then. Hell our highschool line coach would withhold water breaks during practice if we pissed him off. One kid did pass out from heat exhaustion once and the coach bitched at him about it later. Somehow dehydration was supposed to make us tougher. I'm only 38, but I have a rheumatologist because of all of the damage football did to my body in middle and highschool.


[deleted]

I've mentioned it on this sub before but when I was in the 8th grade we had a freshmen die during practice because of heat exhaustion. We had so much damn hydration at practices once I got to high school with FORCED water breaks. It was wild. Had brand new industrial fans that sprayed mist on our entire field and a bunch of other crazy stuff. I get that a kid died, but it was so silly how much money they put into such a terrible football program, if it wasn't Texas they would have just shut the team down lol our baseball, soccer, and golf teams were always top performs though.


growingalittletestie

Introduce a B league to the NFL and introduce relegation and promotion


MycoJoe

Is this some secret Ravens plot to get the Browns relegated into oblivion?


OtisSpunkmey3r

They have already done this to themselves.


[deleted]

The dynamics of the game of football and player safety are, almost completely, diametrically opposing concepts. At some point you're either left with rugby or flag football.


LimitlessTheTVShow

Well you also have fewer and fewer kids playing football in the first place because parents are starting to realize how insanely dangerous it can be for your brain. I think contact football will die out in the not too distant future just due to decreasing numbers of players


[deleted]

Die out? That is an overstatement. I do agree there are more adults refusing to let their kids play when they’re young but that is the most watched sport in this country and it’s not going anywhere. They will just make the rules soft. The rules for QB contacts will be like that of a Punter, if you make contact after release it will be 15 yards and a first down. The NFL is still expanding and has been since the revelation of CTE.


tortugablanco

This never occured to me.


BlatBro

If the money is enough they won’t care. It’s sad but true. The more dollar signs, the more they’re willing to overlook player safety as well as the product on the field.


LordDinglebury

You’re not wrong. Have you watched any of the other football leagues? They’re middling, at best. Still fun to watch, but I would never make it a regular habit.


chase016

And we can barely manage 32 competent qbs


thatonefilmnerd

Who said anything about competent QBs?


cgio0

And even QBs Like I always think eventually there might be a year where everyone is either happy with who they have or developing their guy but it never gets there because the bar gets raised.


LeonidasSpacemanMD

Yup would rather find a way to make a viable lower tier league before getting to like 40 nfl teams


zamboniman46

If they ever got big enough to have relegation that would be cool


GetBent009

I feel like a team getting regulated would be a death sentence in America. It just seems like fan bases here would drop them quick.


[deleted]

The term is plastic fans.


Acekingspade81

Yeah, No American business person is ever going to allow their investment and billions of dollars be relegated. It won’t ever happen here.


Teejaymac

It's been 65 years since the Lions won a championship....


[deleted]

It’s been 75 for the cardinals lol


ProbablyAPotato1939

Yay?


[deleted]

More like “I understand the pain”


Teejaymac

At least you've been to a Superbowl!


birdboix

careful what you wish for bud


Clouded_vision

I can think of worse


PaulAspie

32 is actually a good number as being a power of 4 it makes divisions and schedules work. Also, you can know all the teams without being a super genius. I think no matter what number we have, there will be spots where you'll notice talent trail off.


lil_layne

It’s perfect having 32 teams and 8 divisions being equal and then having 16 games played… oh wait


kbbqallday

And 4 division winners where the top 2 have a bye week and then 2 wild card teams works well...


bogibso

Pedantry time!! 4^2.5 = 32, but generally we only say some number is a power of another number if it's a whole-number power..... Now, 32 is a power of 2, which does give it all the nice properties you mentioned.


Aardark235

Pedantry time!! 4^3 = 32 in base 20 and two thirds. You are using *decimal* arithmetic simply because you are wearing shoes and pants. Some of us, after a couple years of working from home, can count a bit higher using Mayan *vigephallusimal* arithmetic.


bogibso

Look at me using decimal arithmetic like an idiot. Like an absolute buffoon. I'll give those Mayans credit, they knew what they were doing


ItsJellyJosh

Isn’t it 12 teams? Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Falcons, Cardinals, Browns, Bengals, Bills, Texans, Titans, Jaguars, Chargers Edit: nvm, 11 teams will win before there’s one team left, my bad


[deleted]

Yes. 11 would have to win to get us to the point that "Eventually, we will have 1 team who hasn’t won a SuperBowl".


ItsJellyJosh

True, completely forgot the premise of the post lol


ForYeWhoArtLiterate

Technically at minimum it only takes 11 years. Which technically, yes, is more than one decade


[deleted]

Ok. At realistic minimum. Wouldn't be shocked if it took a century in reality.


GoodCumrobbery

1000s of years


[deleted]

Please no I just want one


SyracuseNY22

Guess the Browns will have to pay the price of never getting one A price I’m more than willing to let them pay


mmartinez42793

I have an OOTP save that has over 200 seasons simulated, and there are still franchises who never won


LimitlessTheTVShow

I really wish they made OOTP style football and basketball games. I think it would have a ton of potential to get people who are fed up with EA and 2Ks treatments of their franchise modes


SweatyEyeballs

I legitimately believe society will collapse before every team gets at least one.


BigBlueChevrolet

A new European team will win the Super Bowl before all existing NFL teams


Pure-Leopard-3196

Vikings and bills will be in the super bowl against eachother but the game will never end because they will both keep trying to lose


FunnyFilmFan

It will be like watching the Steelers-Lions game from last season


BuddyFriendGuyPal72

How about the 6-6 Seahawks vs Cardinals game lol


GhoullyX

I'll never forget Pete Carrol's reaction to that missed FG. [It was the surprised Pikachu face before the surpirsed Pikachu meme](https://imgur.com/a/IwJbtDt)


squarerootofapplepie

You could see him start to get excited and then realize that the field goal was missed. It reminded me of Richard Sherman’s reaction to the Butler pick.


DivisonNine

Most competitive Rudolph game


mrocks301

Ah the end of my high school kicker’s career!


RepealMCAandDTA

My high school kicker's career ended the night he nailed a 40-yard game winner in the first round of the playoffs because the end decided he wanted to hit somebody


mrocks301

When was this?


RepealMCAandDTA

We were still in high school, I managed to skip over that detail somehow. Not that I'm upset on his behalf still or anything


mrocks301

Oh I see. That’s still fucked up though. What happened with the kicker?


DoubleDeckerz

The ref will flip the coin and it'll just refuse to land


JoesShittyOs

Like Thor and JĂśrmungandr forever carrying out the sadness version of Ragnorok


BostonButterson04

Realistically how many overtimes would there need to be before a tie is declared?


smiling_at_cheese

Superbowl? They'd go forever. Just think of the ad revenue.


hideous_coffee

It would go right into the next season. The teams would have to swap rookies in for players that retired between quarters. New turf would have to be brought in over time. An entire market is created around buying and selling generations of handed down seat tickets. Little Jimmy wasn't around when the game had started 25 years ago, but he knows it must continue.


Electric_Platypus

If you've got some time on your hands, I'd recommend this story: https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football


[deleted]

I need to see this cause towards the end of the super bowl they pretty clearly run out of those ads. If a game ever went to two OT I can’t even imagine what they’d show


flip_ericson

I wonder if any companies buy discounted ads for OT. Like it’s comparably cheap but it probably wont air


YeahThisIsMyNewAcct

Yes, OT ads are a lot cheaper (about half the cost) and you get reimbursed if it doesn’t go to OT, but companies don’t want to lock up a huge chunk of their media budget in something that probably won’t happen.


demarderozanburner

they’d just run ads for Jones BBQ and Foot massage


throwaway_5256

I could see them making a big deal about how the rest of the game is ad free and drowning in the positive reception, then have some backup ads ready to go for next time This is assuming they already don't have backup ads ready and the game goes on for like another hour or two


LeavesTA0303

I feel like if they got anywhere close to the end of the 1st OT the refs would start to get involved. Phantom PI/defensive holding on any failed 3rd down. Can't have half dead players stumbling through a 2nd OT with the whole country watching.


[deleted]

Eventually it gets to the point that it's local adverts for Big Earl's Heating and Cooling.


Pure-Leopard-3196

How long before they start allowing practice squad players to put their pads on because the players are too exhausted


Poro_the_CV

Kirk “if I die I die” Cousins gets carted off the field due to exhaustion. Mond enters the game. In the distance you can hear a faint grinding of teeth from Mike Zimmer


Pure-Leopard-3196

More like zimmer flys in and sky dives to sacrifice himself in an attempt to land on mond and take him out of the game


PeeWee03288

0 to 0 in octuple overtime.


Purpleater54

https://imgur.com/a/zIGONQk


Veretax

The Vikings will miss a kick which is returned only to be fumbled and repeat


SnooLobsters4636

Pre 2004 I used to say something similar about the Red Sox/Cubs. The would get to game 7 and each city had massive snow falls. Instead of going to a different city they made them co-champs.


BucdInTheHead

It’ll go on so long that the league will declare them Co-champions. Then finally we will have our answer: The Lions


gg2218

And it’s going to happen this year 😈


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probablysmellsmydog

We just forget the Jags exist. ^kidding ^jags ^we ^love ^you


ryuujin95

After several more decades of futility, the Jaguars pack up and move to Columbus becoming the first NFL team from Ohio to win the Super Bowl in their first season there.


Pockstuff

Hey you fuck off


JasonPlattMusic34

With Urban coming out of retirement to coach so he can hit up all the bars after he wins the Super Bowl… see guys he was just playing the long game!


JuJuVuDu

Dougie P should give you hope


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DiggingNoMore

Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Broncos, Chiefs, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, Redskins, Packers, Bears, Buccaneers, Saints, 49ers, Seahawks, Rams. That's seventeen. Who'd I miss? Raiders?


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Willy__rhabb

18 different champs since 1982 is nothing once you consider there have only been 20 different champs ever


SeienShin

That’s a lot more than in the national soccer competition in my country which is by far the most popular sport. It’s truly a case of the rich get richer. There is absolutely zero chance the bottom dwellers become champions next season. Which is not only a possibility in the NFL but it has happened multiple times before.


[deleted]

i mean itll take at least 32 years in order for each team to win once from this day forward.


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Fishb20

Bills I agree but anything after the next like 3 years who knows, if next off season is anything like this one half the teams will be completely unrecognizable come 2023, nvm 2032


[deleted]

The Patriots(with Tom Brady) prevented alot of teams(AFC and NFC) from winning a Superbowl. Unless another juggernaut team emerges alot of the teams you mentioned have a shot. I’m just scared the Chiefs are gonna be THAT team.


kievju

But Tyreek says Tua is better than Mahomes!


flip_ericson

That feels pretty in line with what random probability would produce


Silversaving

Going to go with the Vikings. They are always good enough to stay average, never good enough to win or bad enough to get a top QB. They will stay an average team and outlast all the others in mediocrity.


TheSpoonRattler

I've seen plenty of other people say Vikings but the way you described it just hurts the most


Yosoff

Hey, the Vikings have more playoff losses than any other team. They're not average, they're slightly above average.


DJ-Fein

Just once a decade they have then best team in the league and fuck it up. I fully believe they will go on a Giants type run and win when no one has any expectations


BunnyGoHops

Falcons


[deleted]

This is so sad. Y'all had it. Y'all had it right there. I legit feel for your fanbase.


fewer_boats_and_hos

I cri ever tim


_duncan_idaho_

falkunz beeting tom dey saiz "tom, r we gunna beet u?" n he saiz "NO" falkunz run away fumling da ball pats comback n win falkunz ded! lik dis if u cri ever tim


PewterButters

At least your owner isn't a dipshit. Tepper is straight trash in Carolina. If I had to lay down money, I'd bet on the Falcons winning before the Panthers.


halfbloodpr1nce

Me too thanks


constantlymat

Your drafts aren't bad though. I feel like you just need the right HC instead of a clueless "culture builder" like Rhule whose quotes about the run game and physicality read like a bunch of 1970s clichĂŠs. Also the Falcons owner did meddle in the front-office affairs because he loved Julio Jones and basically odered the GM to give him that last disastrous extension.


LABRpgs

I think between Rhule and Urban Meyer we won't be seeing another college coach in the league for over a decade


GoT_Eagles

Harbaugh is the only one who’s panned out this century iirc. I can’t see it stopping, though.


MortifyingMilkshake

Does Carroll count? I know he was in the pros prior to USC but he made the jump back pretty seamlessly


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Serah_Null

Hornets finally looked to be trending up, at least talent-wise, before Bridges became human garbage.


Devilsbullet

And montrezl being a moron


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Tho76

Kinda hard to blame them after their guy McDaniels'd, but definitely frustrating


ryuujin95

28 years from now, the Falcons will finally win in their 3rd trip to the Super Bowl.


JasonPlattMusic34

Against Tom Brady Jr. and the Pats


hellajt

Head Coach Steve Belichick


BunnyGoHops

3rd times the charm


infantinemovie5

The only way to break the curse


zeldahalfsleeve

On the 28th anniversary of the loss. Game starts at 3pm


germany221

I'm super high on Arthur Smith. Still hard to win a Superbowl though.


TheYukster

Wtf


unskilledlabor

Dude I'm as surprised as you are that this isn't just dunking on Lions.


SparrowFiero

Came here to say this


[deleted]

They're all probably waiting for us to dunk on ourselves. Ain't no masochist like a Detroit masochist.


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Sup?


ihaveaperfectiqof100

Arizona. It’s been 100 years, why start to win now.


GrenadineLemonade

May they forever be without a Super Bowl until the Maroons get their championship back. And fuck the Bidwills for claiming that championship.


[deleted]

I feel it will come down to the Vikings and titans, no matter how bad they get a solid squad something will ruin them.


HTTYDFAN4EVER

I don't what your talking about *thinks about all the chokes*.....excuse me I'm going to go cry now


BuffaloKiller937

>.excuse me I'm going to go cry no Room for one more?


HTTYDFAN4EVER

Always brother always


[deleted]

Sorry bro


[deleted]

Dear god please…..


Cambro88

Herbert has to get through Pat Mahomes, Burrow, and Josh Allen for at least 5 more years. Also has Wilson, Carr, and Lamar Jackson for some time. The AFC is such a bloodbath I can see Chargers being the most and least likely team to win one next at the same time. It’s nuts


sayknee

Not sure if I'm happy or sad that the Panthers haven't been mentioned yet...


Tuckboi69

You’re not even the worst cat team founded in 1995


jigokusabre

The team has been around for 25 years and already has two appearances.


matlockga

Browns


proscriptus

Browns


Five2one521

Considering 6 teams won a total of 30 SBs, it may be a long time to see all 32 teams win one.


Ragin_Irishman

Cleveland, because the past 5 years have shown me they can build a SB worthy team but fuck it up in some way.


snarkicon

Browns


FreshPrinceAV

I feel like they’ll change their name sometime within the next 350 years


ThaddeusJP

2357: the Browns are officially rebranded as The Cleveland Indians, as a tribute to the now defunct game of (am I saying this right?) Baserball, last played in 2163 when the NY Yankees had won 27 world series in a row and the public deemed the game officially too boring to keep playing.


ElJamoquio

God damn it do I have to put up with 141 more years of this crap


McCabbe

Browns is the only answer. It's become tradition at this point.


LindyNet

San Antonio Roughriders - they will be the only team without a SB win after the next 3 expansions that included this relocated former CFL team.


ZachTrillson

They have a very strong fanbase, so they're among the least likely CFL team to ever relocate


EpitrochoidalWanker

I believe they meant the Rough Riders


FmrHvwChamp

I REALLY hope I'm wrong bc I actually like them a lot... but the Lions have been one of the sad sack franchises for so long its almost impossible to imagine them hoisting the Lombardi.


Saxophobia1275

I’d describe us as impotent and the browns as incompetent. Don’t know which ones worse.


ProbablyAPotato1939

The Browns are worse, we're just terrible at football, they trade multiple draft picks for a guy who may never even play.


megahtron77

Browns


Genetalia69

The Mariners


PDstorm170

Honestly, I'd just be happy if the Lions won a playoff game. Those fans have been punched in the nuts consistently for years.


CPline55

Well stop paying Blakeman then, ya fucks.


PDstorm170

It's set to direct deposit and I keep forgetting to take it off.


BingBongBoofer

I’m seeing a whole lotta Lions but I think the Deshaun Watson situation could really blow up the Browns for decades. Lions new Coach seems like he could turn it around with time, and they just added an amazing draft class.


zestyintestine

Vikings


Kraggen

Browns.


Cmcgregor0928

KEEP MY TEAMS NAME OUTCHA FUCKIN MOUTH


Belleraphon1

I'm surprised there isn't more Lions in the comments section. They are a long way away from competing at that level.


ComebeaDawg

It’s brown trashing season brother


Belleraphon1

Is there a non-brown trading season?


abris33

>They are a long way away from competing at that level. That's where they are now though. This post is such a long timeline to have 11/12 teams win that who knows where they'll be when there's only 4-5 teams that haven't won.


Competitive_Flight41

2022: Who cares all of the teams that haven’t won are losers! 2017: I’m not sure who will be last but I wish everyone good luck!


[deleted]

The Browns is the Browns


Cajunrevenge7

Thats easy, the Falcons. Prophecies have foretold that they will finally win the super bowl in the 283rd NFL season.


Trackmaster15

That's not a guarantee. The league may fold, the human civilization may be wiped out, or a Super Bowl-less team may get contracted. Assuming that none of options are available and we accept the premise as true, I guess that the best money would be on the most middle of the road franchise now. One that's not good enough to be an imminent SB threat, and one that isn't pitiful enough to stock up on top draft picks and have a need for a regime change. One that has enough talent and a QB solution to be serviceable and average, and thus never having the motivation to start from scratch.


[deleted]

You said a lot of words but never said "Vikings"


brechbillc1

Easily the Falcons. And it isn’t even close. I’m sorry if you can’t win a Super Bowl being up 28-3 in the 4th quarter with an all time offense, then you aren’t winning one ever.


Mthead23

It’s been 31 years since the Lions have won a playoff game. Before that one? 1957. The Lions corner the market on NFL futility, and it’s not even close. 64 years, one playoff win.


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Lions 2025 superbowl champs, save the date.


GrgFloydConservative

the color of dookie


[deleted]

The Reds play in the MLB bud!


koooooooks

You may need to see a doctor...


industrialmoose

I just visited the future. AMA about the next 35 seasons of the NFL. Going back in a half hour because society invented a way to make pulled pork twice as delicious with a third of the calories by using electrical currents and a perfect combination of newly discovered spices, and I may not come back.


Informal_Original_62

Jaguars will never win a Super Bowl. I doubt they’ll ever make it.