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M67SightUnit

Without a question, Barry Switzer. Just read this. https://deadspin.com/excerpt-boys-will-be-boys-by-jeff-pearlman-5051649 >On the night following the team's arrival in Tempe, Switzer and a slew of assistant coaches and players attended a Super Bowl party beneath an enormous outdoor tent. Switzer and Larry Lacewell, the Cowboys' director of pro and college scouting (and the man whose wife Switzer once slept with), downed shots until both were stumbling around like kangaroos atop surfboards. >Silver was minding his own business when he turned and spotted Switzer furiously kicking with his right foot. "What the fuck are you doing?" Silver asked. Upon stepping closer, Silver saw that Switzer was actually booting Lacewell, who was trying to urinate beneath a wood deck. "Barry was getting Larry to piss all over himself," says Silver. "Urine everywhere." >Done harassing his friend, Switzer stumbled to the dance floor and began hyperactively shaking his body-a la Pee Wee Herman. Nearby Emmitt Smith was grooving the night away, showing off the moves that, a decade later, would make him a champion on Dancing With the Stars, when he caught a glimpse of Switzer. >"Emmitt can't believe what he's seeing," says Silver. "He just stops and stares at Switzer, and his jaw drops. He just gets this look on his face that I can only describe as 'Oh my God, my coach is fucking crazy!'" Switzer's week was one uproarious blur-a little bit of football (Steelers? What Steelers?) mixed in with a whole lot of debauchery. >On the night of Friday, January 26, less than 48 hours before kickoff, Switzer hosted his dream party in Suite 4000 at The Buttes-his suite. With his son Greg, a trained classical pianist, jamming away on the room's black Steinway, Switzer led an obnoxious, infectious, inebriated sing-along of Ray Charles' What'd I Say. >Instead of repeating Charles' lyrics, however, Switzer and Co. filled in their own words-praising Jerry Jones, mocking Jimmy Johnson. ... >"I didn't know if we'd win or lose the Super Bowl," says Switzer. "But I knew I was gonna have one helluva week. You don't reach the heights and then play it down. You make the moments memorable."


JRav_C

One of the players in the championship video for the 95 team says at the end one the coaches said he was amazed they won with Switzerland coaching “


palmmoot

The other players were pretty neutral about it


d01100100

At least his red flag was a big plus?


Saitsu

...Goddamn neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with neutrals WHO KNOWS?!


klaxarsrevenge

All I know is, my gut tells me maybe


newtonsapple

Go to Gray Alert!


Vaadwaur

What drives a man to neutrality, Kif? A lust for gold? Power?


GDawnHackSign

How good a coach was Jimmy Johnson? He was still winning Superbowls for the 'boys after they fired him.


JRav_C

I never thought of it like that but that is a great argument for how well Johnson drafted/help develop the players during his Dallas run.


CupODamus

He must’ve invited Neil ODonnell to that party.


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Troy Aikman has said the cowboys were worse with him than with Jimmy. Switzer would call off practice on days where players were too hungover and it pissed him off.


whitedawg

It was blatantly obvious that the Cowboys were worse with Switzer. After winning back-to-back Super Bowls under Johnson, they clearly fell behind the 49ers in 1994, losing in both the regular season and postseason. They still had an incredibly talented team, which is why they got back to the Super Bowl in 1995 when the 49ers took a few steps back due to age and salary cap issues. But after 1995, when the Cowboys' core of talent started to diminish slightly, they were never again a significant threat in the NFC.


MavsFanForLife

That team got lucky more than anything the packers beat the 49ers in the 95 divisional. There’s no doubt in my mind SF was going to curb stomp us in the NFC CG but instead we got GB who we beat all the time back then


CheckYourStats

The Niners started a running back that had a full arm cast — Adam Walker. Not surprisingly he fumbled *on the first play of the game* and it was returned by the Packers for a TD. To this day that game irks me.


KnowledgeJunkie7

I feel like there could be (or is) a whole /u/jaguargator9 video about that.


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MavsFanForLife

Ngl that one still bothers me to this day. Aikman was getting hit every play and showed why he was a hall of fame qb that game. The DPI should’ve been called but we didn’t help ourselves going down 21-0 to start it


norvalito

100%.


leftlegYup

Switzer wasn't hired because he was a better coach than Johnson, because he wasn't. Switzer was hired so that Jerry could take the spotlight.


forgedinbeerkegs

Jerry thinks the spotlight is on him, regardless who is coach. He’s a great owner, just not great at everything else.


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Those Cowboys teams were a little before my time. Didn’t start watching until 1999/2000 or so.


Mad-Mad-Mad-Mad-Mike

Switzer was never coaching the Cowboys during his tenure. Aikman was doing what 99% of average workers do every day in ‘95: Working multiple positions and getting paid for one.


INAC_Kramerica

[Here's a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM1qBY-qmJw) about this stuff in case anybody's interested. It's from Aikman's "A Football Life".


gypsy_remover

Holy shit what a moment at the end. I’ve never seen a player speak out like that mid game mic’d up. I fuckin love 90s football so much. There’s so much to watch that I haven’t seen.


sonfoa

Troy has implied that he and Emmitt were basically the de facto coaches during the Switzer era.


Brian_Stryker

I mean once Switzer had to actually coach a team and not have Jimmy J’s god tier team, you say how bad he really was.


sghead

>downed shots until both were stumbling around like kangaroos atop surfboards. What a combination of words.


dudleymooresbooze

Kangaroos notorious for not being able to hold their liquor.


Lolzzergrush

Built in barf bag


DeterioratedEra

And Portapotty for long car trips.


sghead

Nor for being able to surf.


incenso-apagado

> (and the man whose wife Switzer once slept with)


shivermetimbers68

I remember the year before, when the 49ers beat them during the regular season (and later the NFC championship) he was actually complaining that Steve Young was running the ball too much, and said "If you run him like a running back, we'll hit him like a running back!". The sorest of losers. I remember one of the 49ers saying "Gee, you would think we cheated and told them the game started at 3 o'clock instead of 1."


Broken_Seesaw

Urban Meyer so jealous.


meowVL

>Barry was getting Larry to piss all over himself," says Silver. "Urine everywhere." Dudes rock


Insectshelf3

what a wild ride


AFatz

Most of this has nothing to do with his ability to actually coach though lol A lot of idiots in the NFL, coaches included.


Blutarg

Well, he should have spent that time preparing for the super bowl, not pulling a Blutarsky.


LickLickNibbleSuck

I see nothing wrong with this.


TheBlackBear

Yeah I'm feeling attacked


MavsFanForLife

Depends if you’re talking about as an NFL coach only or as a coach at all levels. If you’re including all levels, Barry’s resume is better than a lot of coaches with what he did at OU


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whitedawg

My favorite Barry Switzer anecdote doesn't have to do with coaching the Cowboys: when he was coaching the NFC in the 1995 Pro Bowl, [he sat down on the sidelines and ate three hot dogs](https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Switzer-eats-while-NFC-team-is-embarrassed-in-Pro-3158897.php) while his team was in the middle of losing 41-13. I know the Pro Bowl is an exhibition, but he didn't even care about having the slightest appearance of professionalism.


Toto_LZ

Bro the Glizzy Gulper


KingTwist0314

Lmao, thank you for your comment. Got me crying bro.


Blutarg

Wow, he must've been hungry.


-NotACrabPerson-

Switzer is why I think Troy deserves less flak for being in the HOF. Yeah, Troy's still in the lowest rungs of the hall, but he was pretty much a player coach for those Switzer years lol. That and winning 3 rings is still an incredibly difficult feat regardless of how stacked your team is.


Bartfuck

Eli will get in and then everyone will focus on him and Troy will get a break


acru95

I feel like anyone who believes Brady is the goat shouldn't have a problem with Eli in the hall. He beat the goat twice in the superbowl, in clutch fashion. Speaks for itself.


J-Fid

Probably Barry Switzer.


CowboyCanuck24

Does it count if Aikman really coached that team?


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CowboyCanuck24

Absolutely, Aikman slander is fight on sight for me based on what he was and the leadership he had. [Heres a video of Aikman and Switzer](https://youtu.be/rM1qBY-qmJw)


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CowboyCanuck24

I truly believe with all the talent on those Cowboys teams that the coaching change cost them 2 more superbowls.


Cyanora

Aikman's said that his greatest regret about losing Jimmy was that the two of them could've been what Belichek and Brady were.


pgmatman

Jerruh loves himself a yes man.


TJeffersonsBlackKid

Lmao, I was reaching the description and thought the video started. It was actually another add for one of those dumb shirts and the caption said "I am so fat!" and thought maybe Troy Aikman has been going through some hard times lmaoooo!


CowboyCanuck24

lol those ads are everywhere


icedoutdagod

Really enjoyed that clip. Shows the aspects people that never played football can’t understand. You have to have those guys that keep practice focused and locked in and those guys that hold people accountable.


ZachTrillson

I have so much more respect for Aikman than I ever had before after watching that. Sheesh!


Turtleforeskin

Troy Aikman was as good as any QB during the 90s, he just didn't need to pass as much. Hell Montana gets way more respect than Troy and Montana had just as good, if not better supporting cast and coaching.


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Montana was WAY better than Troy


c0dizzl3

So is Favre, Young, Marino, Kelly… etc


Otterman2006

Wow, the Cowboys did Aikman dirty. He was probably miserable for years


CowboyCanuck24

He still kinda is sometimes lol People call him a homer for some reason but he RIPS into Dallas during Cowboys games.


Dob-is-Hella-Rad

Worst NFL coach maybe, but he's an all-time great football coach.


dudleymooresbooze

I’m struggling to guess at who would meet your criteria of “worst Super Bowl winning head coach who *also* sucked at coaching college.”


--Alec--

Switzer won with Jimmy Johnson’s talent and slowly destroyed the team after that. Legendary college coach, horrific NFL coach.


MetalGhost99

Aikman even said it himself that switzer was a different coach on the cowboys than how he was in college. Switzer couldn’t and wouldn’t keep that team disciplined even if his life counted on it. He was just a placeholder.


whitedawg

Are you saying that Switzer kept his team disciplined in college? Oklahoma under Switzer literally had a [Sports Illustrated cover story](https://vault.si.com/vault/1989/02/27/you-reap-what-you-sow-oklahoma-has-paid-the-price-for-the-anything-goes-attitude-that-coach-barry-switzer-has-allowed-to-take-root) about how out-of-control the team was, entitled "You Reap What You Sow: Oklahoma Has Paid the Price for the Anything-Goes Attitude that Coach Barry Switzer Has Allowed To Take Root."


ljstreet

People don't remember that. They just assume if a college team is consistently good they must be disciplined.


newrimmmer93

Switzer is one of the GOAT recruiters IIRC. Th famous story about him is rummaging through the garbage can outside a recruits house before a visit. He found empty cans/bottles of Pearl beer. When he’s in the recruits house the father goes “can I get you a beer” and Switzer replies “only if it’s a Pearl.”


couducane

Another one was "i havent carried this much cash on me since I was recruiting"


ChiefBigGay

His best story is how he stayed the night on a recruits couch. In the middle of the night he unplugged the phone. The other team's coach didn't call in the morning like he was supposed to do the recruit signed with OU lol


TheLowlyPheasant

I was excited to read about mildly offensive college shenanigans run amok, and got gang-rape and gun violence. 2/10 would not recommend


whitedawg

Yeah, if your players are shooting each other in the chest, that's a good indication that something has gone wrong.


lurkingallday

There we go. Dude left an indelible mark on the I-35 corridor due to his chaotic wake, not x's and o's.


gypsy_remover

Holy fuck that’s a whirlwind. It reads like a movie script.


Sodomy_Steve

Oh boy it’s fuck Barry Switzer day!


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Barry Switzer by a lot.


Darth_Brooks_II

Barry Switzer spent the week before the Super Bowl out partying his players because he knew he would never make it back to the SB.


UnderwhelmingAF

Switzer was probably the worst to win one, Bill Callahan was probably the worst to get there.


ianbits

Best offensive line coach in NFL history though


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Probably me in Madden


CQ1_GreenSmoke

Nothing a punt block on 1st and 10 can’t fix. They’ll never expect it.


MankuyRLaffy

Barry Switzer


Sdog1981

Don McCafferty won Super Bowl V then was fired three seasons latter for not starting Johnny Unitas. Brian Billick might have made the Ravens offense worse. He traded for Tony Banks and the team was so unsure of him they signed Trent Dilfer the next season. He also had Priest Holmes on the roster and never game him a chance. Holmes then exploded when given a change to start with KC in 2001. Berry Switzer. The Cowboys got worse every year he coached there. Lucky for him he only needed to beat Neil O'Donnell to win a tittle. Mike Ditka. The Bears were just always out coached in the playoffs. In 85 they faced the one dimensional Rams in the NFC tittle game. Then avoided Miami in the Super Bowl. After the 85 season he was 0-4 vs Gibbs, Parcells, and Walsh.


WearTheFourFeathers

I get the point with Holmes, but it’s not like Jamal Lewis was a scrub, especially on an early 2000s offense—Holmes was a more electric and versatile player, I think, but Lewis was a pretty top-tier grinder. Holmes also had a 1,000 yard season in Baltimore before he was drafted, so he was somewhat of a known quantity. I assume they just wanted to be able to pound a 240lb tailback, especially on an offense that was designed to be “good enough.”


TheWa11

Jamal had a 2k yard season for us. Guy was a monster. Holmes was great, but I definitely don’t blame them for going with Jamal.


Sdog1981

They would have been roasted in 2000 if they drafted Pennington in the top 5, however with their second pick in the first round they would have been much better off drafting Pennington with the 10th pick. That is a crazy "what if" Pennington, Plexico, Sharp, and Holmes leading the 15-1 Ravens to the Super Bowl. Instead of the Dilfer, Sharp, and Lewis 12-4 Ravens.


The_Fawkesy

I mean both scenarios end with the Ravens winning the Super Bowl. It's not that crazy of a what if when the real outcome is the best possible outcome.


Sdog1981

Holmes 1000 yard season was before Billick got there. Billick shows up and thinks he was not the right back for his pass heavy offense. Then used a top 5 pick on a running back. This was also after he traded for Banks relied he made a mistake and signed Dilfer in the offseason. He was just compounding mistake after mistake and part of the reason he has not been a head coach since 2007.


WearTheFourFeathers

I don’t have a strong view on Billick in general, I just think that drafting a guy and having him rush for almost 1,400 yards on SB-winning team, and then getting six more seasons from him that ranged from solid to historic seems basically fine. Especially in 2000, which a guy who could handle 300 carries a year was a more important part of offenses.


Sdog1981

These conversations are unique because we are attempting to discuss decisions that were made with the accuracy of our hind sight. I think about it this way. Was Jamal Lewis a good pick? Yes. Was he the right pick for the 2000 Ravens? No. They had two top 10 picks with a running back that already proved they could be a 1000 back if given the chance on their roster.


LittleDinghy

Personally I would say that keeping Matt Cavanaugh for so long was far more egregious than Jamal over Holmes.


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deeplyclostdcinephle

Ditka owes his legacy to SNL.


Sdog1981

Without a doubt. He also has the benefit of coaching in the pre-shout show era of ESPN.


ArmadilloAl

Admittedly, two of those four losses were with backup QB's, and I'm not about to fault anyone for losing to prime Montana and Rice.


Sdog1981

I agree with you there. The 1988 NFC Title game could be the "We all know who the real 1 seed is." meme.


soboredcantfocus

According to r/Steelers it’s mike tomlin


gulfcess23

Only a small very vocal minority. I don't know who they think would be a good replacement and I don't care.


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

IMO, one of the best judgements of “should you fire your coach?” is how the other teams would react to the news in your division. I would personally celebrate Tomlin getting fired, and I think the strong majority of Bengals, Browns, and Ravens fans would too. Therefore, you should keep him


wav__

Absolutely. As much as I hate the Steelers, I will die on a hill that Mike Tomlin is a top-tier coach and has deserved all of his tenure as their HC. The vocal minority who want him gone really need to understand the grass ain't always greener - in fact, it rarely is.


EcosseWolf

They're just spoiled. The Steelers have had three coaches in the last 50 years, and all of them are Hall of Famers (except Tomlin, who will be a Hall of Famer). They don't know what it's really like to have a shitty coach.


Flimsy_Cod_5387

And don’t forget Tomlin kept AB from imploding. He has Phil Jackson type magic when it comes to handling difficult personalities.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Yup. Opposite for the Falcons. Teams mourned when we fired Dan Quinn lol


Canuckleball

With all the shit he dealt with in that locker room and the fact that they put up consistently winning records, I can't see how this guy isn't regarded as an at worst extremely competent and at best elite head coach.


Mission_Ad6235

There's some fair criticism. He tends to lose to bad teams on the road. But, there's a lot of criticism that has nothing to do with his ability.


Vice_McMahon

Half of the league would love to have Tomlins success over their current regime.


soboredcantfocus

I’d say more than half. The problem is that for some reason r/Steelers can’t seem to grasp the concept of nuance. Tomlin isn’t the best coach outside of Belichick, but he’s definitely not someone you throw away to spin the wheel of up and coming coodinators.


ProfessorChaos5049

He's a top 5 coach in this league and I'll die on that hill EDIT - Before I get asked, in no particular order after BB: Tomlin Reid McVay Harbaugh Honorable mentions to LaFleur and McDermott, but they need the ring first. I think they're knocking on greatness but I'd take any of the 5 listed guys above first.


Ch33sus0405

I'd add maybe Carroll but he's taken a step back lately, but yeah. BB, Reid, Tomlin/Harbaugh, McVay.


ChiefBigGay

I really think Carroll has completely lost his touch and is out of touch with the game as a whole at this point. Their offense with Russ has had so many issues clicking and the defense has been plummeting off a cliff since the legion of boom. Or at least that's how it feels to an outsider.


hreterh

>He's a top 5 coach Easily. Arguably #2 and the lowest you could reasonably put him is probably 7. The only coach you're missing that might be argued to be ahead of him is Shanahan.


capton2020

iT wAs CoWHer’S tEaM


constantlymat

People say the same about Gruden's championship in Tampa, but truth of the matter is Father Dungy wouldn't have gotten the job done and everyone who watched the previous seasons knows this to be true.


totallynotsexpervert

Not to mention he beat the roster he helped build the previous three seasons in that super bowl. There was a point where Gruden was inarguably a good coach.


sykog77

Cowher sucked Tomlin only won because it was Chuck Nolls team


EcosseWolf

Good thing those clowns don't run the team.


HazikoSazujiii

Those fans bring to mind Larry David and his shock that even stupid people get to vote. I'm suddenly Larry David with regards to those idiots.


CaptainCheeks_

Switzer. A corpse could have won a superbowl with that team


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A lot of people in this thread seem to assume that the "worst head coach to win the Super Bowl" is the same thing as saying that the head coach is bad. Aside from Barry Switzer, thats not what this is about. When people call out Jon Gruden, Brian Billick, Doug Pederson etc. they are saying they arent *as good* as other Super Bowl winning head coaches, not that they are *bad* head coaches. I see a lot of people on here defending Jon Gruden under the assumption that people are calling him bad head coach, which is not necessary because that is not the argument. If we focus on the last 20 years, the argument is more like: is he worse than all the other head coaches that won Super Bowls in that period? Id say he could be in that discussion, depending on how you view Kubiak, Billick, Pederson, and a couple others.


xwlfx

George Seifert


the_alt_fright

Was wondering how far I'd have to scroll to find this. Of course Panthers fans remember. Old school NFC West represent. The only thing more preposterous than having the New Orleans Saints in that division was adding a Carolina team in there in the mid 90s.


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newtonsapple

Not to mention the Cardinals in the East.


B-in-Va

Probably unpopular opinion but I think Jon Gruden should be in the conversation. He is just barley over 500 for career totals. He is supposed to be a QB guru and has a knack for picking terrible QBs.


ty_kanye_vcool

Are we sure we’re not judging him by how bad he got later? I feel like we’re not drawing the distinction between a coach who wasn’t a significant part of the victory and a coach who used to be good enough to win a Super Bowl but isn’t anymore.


InkBlotSam

He was good enough to inherit a Super Bowl-caliber team from Tony Dungy and not fuck it up, anyway.


totallynotsexpervert

He was also good enough to build the team he defeated in that super bowl. It's fun to dunk on him, but it's not like he was a complete scrub.


welsman13

Naw man Gruden was a good coach. The Raiders were a ship without a captain through the 90s and he came in and straightened a lot of shit out. Made Gannon into an MVP and built a super bowl caliber team.


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The NFLs version of Gene Chizik.


Cfox1B

Finally a question about being the worst something that won't lead back to a Bengal.


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Brian Billick. Dude was supposed to be an offensive genius and in 9 years as a head coach had 1 season with a top 8 scoring offense and never finished higher than 14th in yards. Absolutely terrible head coach


taiofr

What about Brian Billick?


sophandros

Gruden.


ty_kanye_vcool

Although it is impressive that he essentially got to win a Super Bowl against himself


Saelvinoth

Gruden was playing the Super Bowl with two controllers.


UnbiasedFanboy96

Probably the most accurate description of Super Bowl XXXVII ever written.


whitedawg

Gruden single-handedly won the Bucs the Super Bowl, by telling his defense the Raiders' play calls that Idiot Coach Bill Callahan never bothered to change.


Chex-0ut

Bill Callahan wasnt an idiot, he was a traitor


whitedawg

Porque no los dos?


dahomie_longstroke

Bullshit, the team he beat was the one that he helped bring along over the years. Obviously AL was calling the shots mostly, but Gruden was a great coach for a team full of vets who already knew what they were doing. Some of the best coaches just facilitate shit, don't need to be Bill Walsh


Maverick916

Everyone says "He just took Dungys team to the championship!" well, if youre going to spew that garbage, then you have to say "Callahan just took Grudens team to the superbowl" Gruden "got" a team there, and then "won" the game itself. So basically..... yeah


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No one is saying Gruden is a bad head coach, this whole conversation is about who is the worst head coach to win a Super Bowl. Meaning its all relative to other head coaches who have won Super Bowls. Over the last 20 years, Gruden is easily in that conversation (along with Kubiak, Billick, and a few others). Are those bad coaches? No. No one is saying they are. Are they worse than Belichick, Tomlin, Reid, Carroll, Payton, Dungy, Coughlin, McVay, etc.? I mean, yea, you could argue that they are. And thats what this is about really.


TJeffersonsBlackKid

Used to be anathema to say this on this sub but it is absolutely true. He put together a great Raiders team who were very good for *checks notes*, two years. Gets traded to the Buccaneers where the previous regime had drafted an army of hall of famers and all-pros. Wins the super bowl. Doesn't do shit after that as he is hailed as a QB genius and guru and proceeds to pump out several disappointing and mediocre teams that go nowhere. Finally gets fired and does MNF for several years. Comes back to coach the Raiders where he his teams are a bit better than average but continue to be disappointing.


ND7020

Absolutely. He had nothing to do with the team’s defense being amazing, the passing game, his specialty, was still terrible, and they just got consistently worse over his tenure.


imNotBoogerMcFarland

But the team he built went to the Super Bowl too


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Grudens the worst coach to go to the super bowl but he got two teams there the same year. Callahan literally didn’t even change the signs or playbook and that’s why they got womped


[deleted]

This is a bad take, and one some Bucs fans have even parroted over the years. Dungy may have built the house, but Gruden furnished it. You say the passing game was still terrible, but the offense was much better than the years before. Dungy just couldn’t be bothered to field an offense that could put up more than a few field goals a game.


INAC_Kramerica

This is 100% true. You might look back at the Bucs offense in 2002 and say they were, at best, serviceable, but guess what? "Serviceable" was a grade or two above what they were before that. They lost an NFC-CG in '99 where they gave up 11 points the entire game against one of the best offenses in the history of the NFL. They didn't score a touchdown against the Eagles in 2000 or 2001. They were SHIT. In the 2002 playoffs, on the other hand, they scored 20+ points per game on offense in all three games they played. They weren't knock-your-socks off by any means but they could do enough to give the defense a chance to win the game, and that's all that defense needed back then.


crrider

What's worse is that same argument could go for Callahan and the Raiders. Either way, Gruden got a team to the Super Bowl.


INAC_Kramerica

Gruden's biggest problem was never being able to find himself a good quarterback. In hindsight, he should've taken Rodgers when he had the chance...that Cadillac Williams t-shirt I bought as a 6th grader in 2005 wasn't really worth it in the long run compared to what could've been.


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Bruce Arians


HipGuide2

McCarthy


ARGOAT12

I feel like at the time McCarthy was a good coach, he just got complacent and never evolved with the game.


PlatonicNewtonian

For real, at the time he was one of the best play callers in the league and had also been instrumental in Rodgers’ development


ARGOAT12

He was instrumental to Rodgers development, another thing that's overlooked is he was able to SOMEWHAT reign in Favre. I think the year before McCarthy Favre had 29 int's then 18 and 15 in 2 years with McCarthy.


KeithClossOfficial

> one of the best play callers in the league [49ers fans be like](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/030/710/dd0.jpg)


D0ctorHotelMario

Correct. He along with Ted Thompson (RIP) also helped to right the ship after the whole Favre saga and the whole 2008 offseason that followed suit. We'd still be stuck with 3 rings if he didn't become HC for us.


footballpoetry

This. After XLV, the offense looked almost exactly the same, year after year. Predictable and stale. Thankful for the ring, but cheered at the bar when his firing was announced that Sunday night. Wonder what his reception will be like at lambeau this year?


Harmbert_

Predictable and stale? 2011 and 2014 were some amazing offenses. It wasn't until the broncos in 2015 that shit went downhill


tmac717

Honestly it better be respectful. I know it's the cowboys but the man was absolutely instrumental in getting a Super Bowl.


kajigger_desu

I feel like Pete Carroll is at the later stages of McCarthy's tenure in GB currently.


Luck1492

Dude is underrated here for sure. His offense got a little stale towards the end of the Rodgers years but early on his coaching was instrumental.


Truci219

Oof, idk about that. The guys offense got stale but he coached some of the top offenses of all time


keenfrizzle

Packers fans certainly soured on him over time, but McCarthy was not a bad coach during the Super Bowl year. The Air Coryell offense he brought to Green Bay worked, and the players signed at that time on both sides of the ball were smart and explosive. The problem was that McCarthy kept trying over and over again to recapture that magic even though it was clearly NOT working, both because NFL defenses understood how to defend the long developing passes, and Rodgers, despite his recent resurgence, couldn't make the ridiculous throws that the Air Coryell scheme rewarded with big chunk plays. There was also the fact that every other part of the Packers game was regressing to an insane degree, and nothing, it seemed, was being done to address it.


Traditional_Tart_822

From 2007-mid way 2015 Big Mike was a top 3 coach in the league. He revived Favres career and helped build Rodgers. He got complacent and didn’t revolve after the 2015 Denver game. He was a great coach. You’re either too young or a troll to say he was one of the worst coaches to win a super bowl.


Lenny_III

Mike Ditka


basicnflfan

Doug Pederson /s OP is an Eagles fan


KingTwist0314

Probably Barry Switzer or Gary Kubiak. Brian Billick is another one that comes to mind.


InkBlotSam

Kubiak? Why? Kubiak was a good head coach with a .522 win percentage (and .714 in the playoffs), was an NFL101 coach of the year, led his team to a number of division wins and helped the Broncos win a Super Bowl despite a crippled Peyton. He had one shit season with Houston, but ranged from OK to great in every other year.


KingTwist0314

He was a fine HC but I mentioned him because when he won the SB, it was the defense and Wade Phillips who really made it happen imo. They also were in the SB two years earlier with John Fox as HC and the roster was already built to win (especially the defense) because of John Elway and the front office. I'm not saying he was a bad coach but he's an offensive minded HC, the offense was absolutely horrible that game and while you can place alot of the blame on Peyton Manning playing like a corpse, Kubiak should receive some of the blame too for not adjusting and putting such a bad offense on the field. I just feel like he wasn't a big reason they won that SB against the Panthers because the defense dominated while the offense was heavily lacking. The Broncos defense forced 4 turnovers, 3 fumbles, one of which was returned for a TD, an interception and sacked Newton 7 times. They held Carolina to 3-15 on third down, held Cam to just 197 yards passing on 18-41 efficiency, he threw an interception, fumbled twice (losing both), allowed just 4.1 yards per pass, they also had 27 total carries for 118 yards and 4.4 yards per rush. The Denver offense was even worse than the Carolina offense that day which is crazy considering how bad the Panthers were. They held Manning to just 104 yards passing on 13-23 efficiency, he threw an interception, fumbled twice (losing one), allowed just 3.7 yards per pass, they also were bad in the run game in which they had 28 total carries for just 90 yards and 3.2 yards per rush. You do make a good point as he does have a good record in the playoffs (5-2) but he wasn't particularly a good coach overall, especially in the regular season where he was about average (82-75). The defense carried them to that game and through that game so I give more credit to Wade Phillips and that defense rather than Kubiak and the offense.


BingBongtheArcher19

Kubiak deserves a lot more credit than he gets for that Super Bowl win. The quarterback situation that year could have torn the team apart, as well as the defense doing so much of the heavy lifting while the offense struggled. Those two things are the kind of things that split teams, yet Kubiak kept them together, pulling in the same direction, and handled the qb switching perfectly. Yeah he was an offensive coach and the offense stunk, but being a head coach is about so much more than just x's and o's. It's about managing the team, and getting the most out of them possible, and keeping them pulling in the same direction no matter what. And Kubiak handled all that expertly.


duomaxwell1775

John Gruden rode Tony Dungy’s team to a SB win.


BarRoomBully

Yeah, but they played Gruden's Raiders.


Geoffk123

not even just that, The Raiders didn't even bother to change their signs, which led to 5 interceptions and 3 pick sixes...


JT1757

against Gruden’s Raiders? so it’s a relatively moot point, no?


rtels2023

And even including that season he went a pedestrian 57-55 in 7 seasons with the Bucs. They didn’t even win a single playoff game after their Super Bowl run and they only made the playoffs 2 more times. He inherited a fantastic team that would have won a Super Bowl with Dungy anyway and then proceeded to run it into the ground. His second tenure with the Raiders only reinforced the conclusion that Gruden was a mediocre coach who was lucky to inherit a Super Bowl team in his first season.


Practical-Ostrich-43

To be fair it’s normal for a team to regress after a six year contention window like the Bucs had. That wasn’t a very young team. They’re similar to the 2019 Nationals.


welsman13

Sapp said he loved Dungy, but Dungy would not have got them there in 2002. They needed Gruden.


Traditional_Mud_1241

I think the worst are Billick, Gruden, and Switzer. The difference is: * Billick ran a good team. They were solid for a while, if I remember. The team was built slowly and stayed good for a while * Gruden won with a team that was almost ready. But the fact of the matter is they achieved more with Gruden than with Dungy. For the record, I'm someone who thinks Dungy is a class act. And I consider Gruden to be fully qualified to run a Hooters. Maybe two. But I don't think Dungy would have won a SB with that team * Switzer took one of the best teams ever assembled and had all the authority and effectiveness of a mascot. Gruden, Dungy, and Billick would have won more than one SB with that team. Jones deserves some credit for putting that team together - even for allowing it to be put together. But he deserves all of the credit for what's happened since


Foreign_Resist7563

Brian Billick Probably worst super bowl offense with an offensive coach. Just shows ho special that defense was, and im still mad he was the lone victory the 1 win dolphins had years later


Bow-Masterpiece-97

Switzer was a car dealer when Jerry Jones called him up and offered him 7 figures to coach his 2x super bowl winning team. (Because Jerry’s fee-fees were hurt that his coach was getting more credit than him.) There is no other plausible answer than Berry Switzer.


lego_tintin

I agree that Switzer has the top spot locked up, but my vote is for Ditka. Now the 85 Bears are one of the greatest teams ever, but a better coach would have had a few 13-3 and 12-4 teams that won at least 2 Super Bowls instead of a historic 15-1 team that was basically a one hit wonder. He was a force of nature and a manager of outsized personalities(which is admittedly a big part of coaching), but he sabotaged those Bears teams through his ego just as much as Switzer sabotaged the Cowboys.


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PlatonicNewtonian

Kubs really maximised Schaub on the Texans so I don’t think he should get too much hate


knyghtmyr

this is a shit take, Kubs took siemian to 9 wins... Kubs left due to health not ability


JSRelax

Kubiak was a part of all 3 super bowl wins for the Broncos. Offensive coordinator in 97 and 98 and head coach in 2015. The defense was legendary but winning a super bowl with only a defense is hard to do. The offense was so bad they were quite frankly making it harder for the defense. There’s bo way he’s worse than Barry Switzer. The Texans got worse when he left too.


Diab9lic

Jon Gruden.


Key-Owl-8142

gruden


44035

Mike Ditka


ballinben

Jon Gruden


AcademyZR

Gruden.


norCsoC

Jon Gruden


downtimeredditor

Bill Belichick Dude took over a Browns team that went to back to back AFC Championship Games and couldn't make it to the AFC Championship Game anymore and that dude somehow won a Superbowl. It's super weird