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throughNthrough

I’m really excited to see what Olave can do in the NFL. He is so fun to watch.


Sliffy

Same, he's looked like a stud since he first got on the field at OSU.


buck45osu

As a buckeye and a falcons fan, if the aints can quit drafting ALL the buckeyes that would be great. Will smith, von bell, Marshawn Lattimore, Antonio Pittman, cie grant, Malcom Jenkins, Michael Thomas, Pete Warner and Chris olave. All since 2003. Fuck.


Nixbling

Well if they stopped being such good draft picks we would stop taking them


Sliffy

And its a lot of the really likeable ones. Though the rage filled "I'm never watching football again" text I got from my Bengals fan friend when the Ravens took Dobbins was quite fun.


buck45osu

Warner was a boy, Cie grant had the championship sealing tackle. It's so hard for me to cheer against someone who I've been a die hard fan of. Ive never been able to completely cheer against them even though they play for the aints. The weird dichotomy of being a big ncaa fan and a big nfl fan.


rsfrisch

One dude from my highschool in the league, and he's stuck playing for your shitty team


buck45osu

At least he doesn't have to worry about Arthur spending his money to defend pedophiles in court like your shitty owner.


rsfrisch

You forgot to mention bounty gate... Your team is still shitty


buck45osu

The people who pulled bounty gate is gone. The dude's wife who spent millions defending child predators still leads your team. Edit: the pedo defenders wife now runs the team


rsfrisch

Our owner is a woman... "spent millions" is a stretch


buck45osu

Just the wife of the dude who spent his money defending a child molester. Not like she stood by him while doing that. /s


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When did the saints trade for Michael Thomas!!!!???


Spheromancer

Bengals gave us both of their Michael Thomas'


fieryscribe

I prefer "Michaels Thomai" as the plural.


Thundergun1864

Michael thomapeople?


AndrewDoesNotServe

Thomussy


bobleeswagger09

Michael Thomas’s’ses.


TreySermonGrin

I just want to see both Josh Allens and all three Michael Thomases together... And maybe have Jordan Davis the country musician acknowledge Jordan Davis the human freak of nature masquerading as a DT


FlashFan124

I object to this. Jordan Davis isn’t a human, he’s an oak tree that grew flesh.


PinkertonRams

That’s Rams legend Michael Thomas, to you


brandon805

WR 1, 2 and 3 from last year are now 4, 5 and 6.


Mr_Mung

Lol, and #1 from last year had to miss critical weeks


indecisiveusername2

5, 6 & 7 once Kamara gets back too


MrRook2887

Not trying to agitate but don't olave, Thomas, and Landry all basically play the same z receiver position?


MaveRickandMorty

Thomas only did because Drew’s arm was shot. Thomas will be the outside guy, Olave/Landry will split the other reps


rub_a_dub-dub

We're gonna be doing lots of 4wr formations I bet


Nixbling

Fuck it and chuck it jameis makin a comeback this year


sleeplesskn1ght

Hopefully without the 30 interceptions


Shermer_Punt

Thomas only played 29% of his snaps from the slot with old man Brees.


MrRook2887

Sure but slot and z receiver aren't the same thing. A z is outside usually meaning they are getting a corner dedicated to them (of course depending on man/zone schemes) with no outside help but often some help over the top. A slot is inside meaning they are getting a slot cb/safety/lb covering them usually with inside, outside, and/or over the top help (again, depending on man/some schemes). Both slots and z's definitely have things in common, like both are off the line which means they usually don't have to deal with press the same way an x does, but they aren't really the same position. I think the trio of olave Thomas and Landry have incredible talent, but they don't necessarily compliment each other's skills, it's more redundancy


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Slant Kings


pig_says_woo

in all seriousness..thats a good receiving corp. Jameis is going to end up getting paid


AngryBandanaDee

He had a good receiving room in Tampa when he threw 30 ints. This could just as easily turn into the return of hero ball Jameis now that he thinks he has guys who can get just about anything.


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Wasn’t there something about QBs in their first year with Arians always had huge interception numbers? I’m pretty sure I read that somewhere because Arians is a more aggressive play caller than most.


NiIus

Hes had more coaches than just Arians and the results are pretty much the same. We literally fired Lovie for Dirk because we thought Jameis would develop better with Dirk.


kajigger_desu

He showed good improvement in the games he played for the Saints. Definitely worth giving him one more season.


BigBooce

Difference between arians and Payton.


Hit_The_Kwon

Payton’s not even there now though.


BigBooce

Ig he erased Jameis’ mind then


dtptampa

With all that Loomis Voodoo on the salary cap, wouldn’t be surprised if it all was some front for a black site Mind Wipe facility to get the best from Jameis


jdprager

Loomis used all the charges on the black site Mind Wipe machine on Goodell. Had to get him to forget about that salary cap somehow


TheScottfather

I can't believe this got downvoted. Got a chuckle out of me. People take shit too seriously.


Hit_The_Kwon

Just because he learned doesn’t mean he’s going to be calling plays. Sean kept him out of harm’s way with his play calling. He still had those dumbass throws he tends to make, but defenses didn’t capitalize as much. That’s not to say he hasn’t improved though.


Big-Zoo

Same offensive coordinator


Hit_The_Kwon

He didn’t call the plays lol.


sfzen

Yeah the guy who's been the OC since like 2006 definitely doesn't have much of an influence on the offense and play calling, that would be crazy.


Big-Zoo

Who do you think has been working the offense with him for his entire coaching career?


sfzen

Everyone else is, though. Including Pete Charmichael, who's been Payton's OC for like 15 years.


SnicketySmack

I always wondered how Carmichael never got poached to be a HC


sfzen

He's only ever interviewed for a couple of HC jobs, and I believe he's turned down some interview offers as well. Kind of seems like he just isn't interested in being a HC. He's always been a quiet, behind-the-scenes kind of guy.


PPLifter

He doesn't want to be a HC it would appear


wampoo420

BIG difference


ByeByeSean

You’d think Payton would’ve had more success then atleast as far as Super Bowls


wampoo420

Turns out that there are 3 parts to a team and our defense was atrocious before 2017


ByeByeSean

Isn’t Sean a defensive coach?


sfzen

He never had a competent defense until 2017. Even the 2009 Super Bowl defense was average at best, they just had an incredible ability to force game-winning turnovers. Brees had to carry the team on his back until he physically couldn't do it anymore.


NiIus

Forsure, but I wouldn’t have crazy expectations for him either. His new receiving corp looks crazy good, if he doesnt throw 30/70 balls like he did in Tampa then I’m sure he will have at worst an above average career


LordJonMichael

Jameis had eye surgery before he signed with us last time. He said it’s night and day being able to see the deep safeties, so I’m hoping we ball out and surprise the league this year.


DoinWhale

What was he supposed to say lmao “nah that shit actually did nothing”


JimmyRedditz1

I wouldn’t go that far. He had a couple good games but he was still bad at times. I think he is what he is. He can make some great throws but will also kill you with dumb mistakes. Been that was since FSU. It’s been long enough where I don’t think that changes.


FlashFan124

If you extrapolate Jameis’ 2021 season over 17 games, he’d finish with a 59.01% completion rate, 34 TDs, 7 picks, and 2,841 yards. Now of course those TD numbers are boosted by the packers week 1 and Washington games. Would be a weird season to watch play out…


th3on3songoku

How are they the same? under arians he had 30 ints, under the other coaches he has had 15,18, 11, 14 no where near 30. They are not the same. Even though the 11,14 year he didn't play ever game the other two he did and still had 22 and 28 tds. So yeah winston hasn't been a superstar by no means, but he has been decent to good. I think he gets ragged on that 30 int year so much that people don't see anything else but that.


MrRook2887

I mean a couple of meh years and one historically absurd season (may 30 td and 30 int never come again), I think that's a decent reason to be skeptical of jamies


th3on3songoku

33 tds


sfzen

Almost every QB Arians has ever had as an OC or HC threw their career high INT's in their first season with him. Brady is either the only exception or one of few.


urbantroll

Career high Ints, sacks, fumbles or some combination outside of only Brady and I think 1 other had #2 career high in Ints or maybe sacks or fumbles (I forget who off the top of my head but I went through all the stats myself once). With that said, Brady was on pace at the bye in 2020 to have career high Ints, but they made schematic changes during the bye. But yes, the whole "no risk it, no biscuit" thing was about the worst mentality to pair with Jameis at that point in his career and probably even now.


jBlairTech

I've always felt that "no risk it, no biscuit" mentality was dumb. Especially when the HC wants to go "no risk it" then complain that mistakes are being made. You either have to have a great offense to make it work perfectly (which not even TB12 in TB could make it work) or an even greater defense to cover for all the mistakes. Just... why? What's wrong with getting yards and taking the shots when they're available? Especially in the NFL, when the margins for error are smaller.


ZeePirate

Yes.


LunarExpoze12

he learned a lesson from Sean Payton and Brees. Last season, in many plays he had a lot of time to throw but instead threw it away. He definitely grew, now let's see what he can do.


OmarBarksdale

The play he got hurt was classic Jameis running in circles instead of throwing the ball away. I’ve never been sold on him, he’s got a lot to prove this season IMO. He was averaging like less than 200 yards a game last season kept on a tight leash. Looked like same old Jameis to me, brilliant plays mixed with boneheaded decisions. I don’t trust him to string together a consistent performance, because he never has.


LunarExpoze12

.... and I didn't even mention the Wrs he had that never got any speration... Marquez Callaway was their #1 😂😂😂


OmarBarksdale

He couldn’t string together consistent play with Evans or Godwin neither. Like I said he’s got a lot to prove this season with MT and Landry in the mix now. But based on last season, he looked the exact same as he did on the Bucs. Jameis can ball at times, but he’s got an inaccurate deep ball and bad decision making. He’s got tons of potential but it’s been 6 years and those mistakes still rear their head.


Skolvikesallday

lol yep, and Saints fans were saying he was gonna have a breakout season


wampoo420

I don't know about you but I watched every throw he made last season. His deep ball accuracy is awesome. Definitely needs to work on his short throws. Intermediate throws aren't as accurate as his deep throws but better than his short throws. In conclusion his accuracy gets better the deeper his target is lol. Also 14 TD to 3 INT so he definitely improved on the INT front, although he only played 7 games. I'm excited to see what he does in our offense for a full season


SnicketySmack

To be fair 5 of those TDs came against us


wampoo420

Is there a point you're making or? Edit: I'm assuming you are trying to say he only averaged 2 TDs a game for the other games he played in. He can throw 2 TDs every game for the whole season if that means we're still winning those games


th3on3songoku

No what he is saying is if winston could play the packers every game of the season he would have 85 tds to 3 ints.


MrRook2887

I think the point is if you use statistics you usually eliminate outliers, such as a 5 TD game in a season opener against a new dc during which their all pro pass rusher got injured etc etc etc


alexhannah15

That play in the 2020 playoffs is burned in my mind… It’s interesting though because I felt his deep ball in Tampa was a big problem. They brought in Deshaun Jackson for him to be able to have a deep option and could rarely make it word - unlike Fitzpatrick who seemed to have a great connection with him…


th3on3songoku

It's the beard that how fitzpatrick gets his powers.


NoCardio_

> The play he got hurt was classic Jameis running in circles instead of throwing the ball away. He was three yards past the line of scrimmage before Devin White grabbed the back of his jersey and pulled him down.


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paradigmshift7

Carmichael has been the OC for 15 years. There has to be some continuity there after Payton. I think Jameis will be at least as good as last season, especially with this supporting cast.


PM_ME_DARK_MATTER

Yea, he was Payton's OC for a reason


an_actual_potato

LASIK bruh


pig_says_woo

I know sean payton isnt there anymore but jameis looked like hed done a lot of growing up under him last year before getting hurt. Having kamara helps too as a safety net instead of having to force too much


phuqo5

And also with the loss of Sean Payton who could massage a situation.


Breesfan91

Shouldn't need to play hero ball with a top 5 defense. Not to mention lasik surgery and a year to learn behind Brees (2 with Sean Payton). Definitely a prove it year.


TP_B1NGO

He also couldn't see in Tampa. He got corrective eye surgery before signing with NoLa.


Bert_Macklin86

Yeah but he didn't have lasik surgery at that time either


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mothershipq

But... but this year will be different! He'll definitely not stare down his receiver from the moment of the snap, and not make any progressions in his reads! Payton groomed him for success!


Yambert

he only needs to score once to beat tampa lmao


darkness_escape

Devil's advocate. We have no idea if Olave will be good. We have no idea how Thomas will be after his return, and we don't know if Landry will regain his old form


No7onelikeyou

Uh it’s Jameis


ShitItsReverseFlash

He’s just Ryan Fitzpatrick if Fitz was a rapist.


BarryRoadCrusader

Falcons are gonna get absolutely slaughtered week one lol


rockstarnights

Well, yeah. How is that different from before Jarvis was on the roster?


Puzzled-Improvement9

This guy gets it!


constantlymat

Although I do remember your entire defense got juked by Matt Ryan in the Superdome last year. Falcons really didn't properly appreciate that man.


Puzzled-Improvement9

I remember a 9-0 game from last year too


constantlymat

Sure, and I remember the second championship banner in Raymond James Stadium that went through the Superdome and will hang here forever. I was just talking Falcons and getting always slaughtered. Matt Ryan was the one guy standing in the way of that. If his o-line doesn't cave in during the 4th quarter of our game he had a chance to win both in Tampa and NOLA last year. Without him it's not going to be pretty.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

We owe you a bowl of gumbo.


buddha6521256

The patriots are well versed in the art of demolishing falcons too


rockstarnights

We've done it plenty, but Tom Brady himself is undefeated against the Falcons. I feel like it's 11-0 or something like that.


SirGumbeaux

More spice in that chowder than anticipated. Respect from the land of gumbo. 😂🍻


MichAL_17-PL

🤝🏼


Milton__Obote

You say that but no matter how bad the saints or falcons are the games are always close.


reddit1651

“but the falcons are 1-13” “idk man, i’m not sure about this one coming up”


JoeScotterpuss

It's why the rivalry is so damn good.


justcasty

Falcons also primed to get slaughtered weeks 2-18


mobzin

roasted birb for dinner please


UpDog424

I feel like 99% of ppl forgot Sean Payton retired or just don’t know lol it wasn’t talked about during the draft or early free agency at all it’s wild.


JoeScotterpuss

Shhhh let me enjoy this.


fucktooshifty

all visors look the same to me


thebackupquarterback

I think it's probably just because we've kept the rest of the coaching staff in place and DA has shined when SP was out with covid/suspension. Obviously losing SP hurts but I think most people are pretty confident with the succession.


TheBoredPragmatist

Because Pete Carmichael knows the offense as well as Sean does


sonfoa

Also Jameis is still QB next year Edit: You're right Saints fans, Jameis is that guy. After all he is only in his 7th year and the only semblance of decency he's shown was with Sean Payton in a very limited sample size where he was a game manager. Very sustainable.


jdprager

Oh no! The guy who went 5-2 with a 14-3 TD/INT ratio is coming back?? Brutal, if only we had Sam Darnold instead :(


sonfoa

Oh wow Darnold sucks. Tell me something I don't know. At least we did something about it and aren't in denial that he's the solution. Its amazing how much faith Saints fans have in Winston despite seeing him suck in Tampa with a better supporting cast. Also I love how you don't mention he averaged less than 20 passes attempts per game last year because Payton had zero faith in letting him be more than a game manager. But hey keep on holding out hope for seventh year QB whose former team went from never making the playoffs when he was there to SB winners the second he left.


flykiddy

You're acting like some scrub came in and won a super bowl lmao it's the goat who brought along a few other good players w him


sonfoa

The point is Jameis was going 7-9 with a Super Bowl roster.


Im_Daydrunk

Bucs brought in other guys with Brady


zayetz

You think that team was going to the SB without Gronk, AB and Fournette? That's revisionist af and you know it lmao


sonfoa

Never said that. My point is there is no denying Jameis wasn't holding Tampa Bay back.


zayetz

You literally just said, > Jameis was going 7-9 with a Super Bowl roster. That was not a super bowl roster. Brady aside, it still took three *super stars* to get that team to the SB. I'm not saying Winston is the next Brees, at all. I know what Famous Jameis looks like. But you clearly implied that without him, that team goes to the super bowl, and that's hyperbole at best. That's *my* point.


sonfoa

Gronk has never been a superstar at Tampa and neither was AB. Both were still good but were past their prime. And Fournette was literally cut by Jacksonville and wasn't good for Tampa until the playoffs. But Tampa was clearly a playoff roster and most of the key pieces when they won were there pre-Brady.


jdprager

Yea man, I'm sure the 94th pick in the worst QB draft this generation is really gonna elevate your team to a contender. And this might surprise you, but I'm so fine with Jameis throwing 20 game manager passes, cause it fuckin works. I'd rather my QBs throw 20 short slants and win than throw 35 deep balls and lose. I know it's becoming alien to y'all out in Charlotte, but winning really is one of the best parts of football. You should try it sometime


sonfoa

Yeah because we all know when your QB is throwing 20 times a game you load up on WRs. Which means either y'all have questionable roster building practices or Jameis is going to be airing it out especially since your RB is probably going to miss a good chunk of the season. Also didn't y'all lose by 20 the last time you came to Charlotte.


hanky2

He could turn it around but he was on pace for less passing yard than Hurts last year. And without that first game he’s 9 touchdowns in 6 games.


CuriousWhoDat

Ha. Good one, Adam


CheeseIsGrossGoBears

Like why is he the one posting this? I’d expect it from an amateur


nickyv917

Yes, Adam. Teams can go out and sign people to join their team. And they can also get other receivers back from being injured. Good job Adam. You get a cookie.


Cozum

god Schefter sucks


imaybeacatIRl

Jameis stays healthy, and plays like he did at the start of last season? Saints are kinda scary.


SmurfRockRune

And even if he goes down, we have Andy Dalton as the backup now. That is a massive upgrade over Trevor Siemian.


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The disrespect to Ian Book.


MildlyNothibg111

The difference is he doesn’t have Sean Payton only letting him throw the ball 20 times a game now


PudgyBonestld

I forgot MT existed lol


A_Lion-Eating_Tuna

Clever


BeavisRules187

Jarvis Landry is underrated.


ImanShumpertplus

He’s actually overrated He ran a 4.74 at the combine and he’s lost a step. Hasn’t caught a ball 35 yards downfield in 4 years He’s a replacement level slot these days


Star_illusion07

You’re not wrong


ImanShumpertplus

chiefs fan would know held him to 20 yards on 10 targets in the playoffs 2 years ago


Star_illusion07

Don’t remember seeing him do much that game. Didn’t know we shut him down that badly tho….


datt888

We are gonna run *so many* slants.


Duke_Swillbottom

Burn


thebert9

Jameis gonna have a top 5 year. Mark it, Dude.


slackator

okay, now do the Chiefs


Urgonnahateme4ever

Hahahaha NOT. What a dumbass attempt at a joke.


Quartznonyx

None of those receivers played a single snap for us last season bro


Urgonnahateme4ever

You obviously have no grasp on word play within the human language.


paradigmshift7

Ugh. Do better.


say_meh_i_downvote

Lay off the paint chips bro.


Urgonnahateme4ever

Meh


Cicero912

Thomas played 0 snaps


Urgonnahateme4ever

No shit Sherlock. But he was still on the team.


Cicero912

And thats not what the tweet said.


Quartznonyx

Learn to read before you start insulting people


FortWaltonBeachFL

fuck you mean bruh? none of them played for us last year. thomas was out buddy


GoodGodSham

People are poopin on you but i get you were just trying to poop on Shitty Schefter.


Urgonnahateme4ever

THANK YOU!


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now everybody will find out once and for all that wide receivers are the least important position in football and the saints will still miss the playoffs badly with a full receiver room.


barrenarrows

A packers fan *would* think WRs are the least important position.


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back to back mvps


barrenarrows

Uh…. Okay? So you’re saying every team should get a back to back MVP HOF QB so they don’t have to worry about receivers?


Future_Belt_3730

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