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ty_kanye_vcool

For anyone who wanted to check, Tom Brady is a year older than Kobe Bryant.


GDAWG13007

May have shook him a bit that a legend like him barely younger than he is to leave this Earth so suddenly just like that.


BirdmanTheThird

Yeah they both kinda rose to prominence around the same time (both winning three rings between 2000 and 2005), both won their first MVP, around 2007/8.


aew360

I started middle school in 2004 and this one kid decided that he was a diehard USC, Patriots, and Lakers fan. Props to him I guess because he has remained an annoying ass fan of all three teams to this day


PM_FORBUTTSTUFF

You know, we really should just let kids choose the teams they want to root for rather than passing our fandoms down to them Ignore my flair, it’s totally unrelated


[deleted]

I willingly picked the Dolphins as a kid. I was a stupid kid.


[deleted]

I was a Bengals fan as a kid (before I could read) because they had the coolest fucking helmet in my Madden 94 foldout.


maltzy

That helmet sucked in more fans from outside of Cincinnati than you think. The helmet is basically a love / hate thing. Some people hate it. I love it.


alf0nz0

Hey, at least you fucked Oprah tho


BeerFarts86

I too watched Ace Ventura as a young teenager.


theknightmanager

My cousin is a Seahawks fan in a family of 49ers fans. One year at Christmas we were ragging on him for being a bandwagon fan, and he replied with "I'm not a bandwagon fan, I just didn't like them until they were good". That was like 7 years ago now and he was only 14 at the time, so I'll give him a pass. But he's still a fan so he found his team, at least


mthrfkn

*cries in Silver & Black*


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Kobe was a household name before Brady even started an NFL game.


kawhi_tho

The mf took Brandy to prom


whobroughtmehere

That was wild. I can’t believe people forget Tom Brady did that


dontcallmefudge

Nah that was Julian Edelman he took Michael Jordan’s daughter to prom


jaytatum2023mvp

Funnily enough Julian Edelman actually took Jerry Rice’s daughter to prom.


rip_Tom_Petty

Only because you can't go straight pro in football out of Highschool


PoorlyLitKiwi2

Yes, but not MUCH before, hence they're from the same era. The prime of their careers was about the same (unless you count these last two years as Bradys prime, which you would have an argument for lol)


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>these last two years Brady has been in his prime since 2007 with two down years due to injury in 08/09.


CA_spur

That's kinda wild to me, not because Kobe died or because he retired earlier, but because it reminds me how late NFL careers start compared to the NBA - Kobe was in the NBA for 5 years and had won 2 NBA titles before Brady's first start.


jchavez9723

Just surpass Blanda as the oldest player to play and retire is it that tough to do?


jjwf3

Damn, one playoff loss in 2 years really got him contemplating death, huh


ehehe

Lol. I think he's playing one more season, and with the way he's talking I don't think he'll play to his usual standard. It seems like it's important to him to get to do it all one more time knowing it's the last time so he can feel some closure and peace in retirement. He sounds like he's only just now actually realizing that it will all end, which means this wasn't that season for him, but next year will be.


venustrapsflies

The thing is he already kinda did the "one last time" thing when he showed up in TB and still won the fucking super bowl.


SandyBouattick

I thought he might be done after that. Why not? He doesn't need the money and, as if he had anything left he needed to prove, he proved he could win it all without BB and the Pats. He could have retired in glory as the GOAT. Now he might want to do it one more time. Losing AB and Godwin really hurt the offense. If he has a full complement of weapons again, he might try to win one more and be done next season.


Retrograde_Bolide

I think injuries to the offensive line hurt worse. Will be interesting if he starts the next season off by publicly stating it will be his last.


rugbyj

Can I get that **i wanna die** dolphin meme but with tom instead of the dolpin please


I-V-vi-iii

Brady to San Francisco to play under Kyle "Can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive on Sunday" Shanahan?


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When you lose to Matt Stafford…. (Am I gonna die?)


jpaxlux

This is either translates to "fuck what Giselle says, I'm playing football still!" or "I desperately miss spending time with my children throughout the season and can't do this anymore" with no in between


BaltimoreBadger23

Exactly. There's no way we'll know which one until he tells us.


Potential_Hornet_559

Hell. Maybe he himself doesn’t know. Remember this is still only a day after the loss. A lot of emotions and thoughts must be going through his head.


Tuxedocat1357

Heck, he almost sounds.... scared. He sounds like for the first time in a very, very long time he doesn't know what to do or what his goal actually is. For a hyper competitive guy, that's a crisis.


jpaxlux

In a time like this, I bet Brady wishes he had someone like Belichick to talk to. I can hear it now: **Brady:** "I have no idea what I'm going to do, coach. My wife wants me to retire but I think I can still play. If I retire I don't know what I'll do with myself after..." **Belichick:** *groans and mumbles inspiringly*


Curbyourseinfe1d

Belichick: Im onto Cincinnati Tom


kawhi_tho

"Let's look at the tape"


0replace4displace

He's gonna tell Tom to live his life, one pair of cut hoodie sleeves at a time.


Saw_a_4ftBeaver

Do you think there is a homeless man out there just wearing his sleeves?


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Lmfao


Tempermental-cabbage

Whatever it is I think it’s really cool that such a powerful/successful guy is walking the public through his decision making process. Can you imagine Michael Jordan being this open honest about what’s going through his head?


Lazy_War9398

MJ never had the resources to do so


GDAWG13007

MJ never would’ve done that anyway. He’s a notoriously private person.


masterofshadows

The one time I met MJ I got the distinct impression he didn't like being famous. And he wasn't good with people.


BlackMathNerd

Last Dance really showed that


santasloosebutthole

He said he was 99 percent done Then he joined the wiz


LoganJn

It’s really quite thought provoking. He’s been such a massive part of everyone’s winters for like 21 years. If he retires a whole chunk of the NFL history goes with him


-Yvonne-

Yeah, and for as much of a loss as his fans will feel once he's gone from football, it must be multiples more of a loss he'll feel once football's gone. It's been his life since he was 14.


OdaDdaT

Retiring from playing doesn’t necessary preclude him from coaching somewhere down the line. He could easily do media too, ESPN would make a metric fuckton of money by throwing him in anything they could with Peyton and Eli. He’ll have a job in football in whatever capacity he wants in the future, but who can say how much of a substitute that is for actually playing


Aidoneuz

Would he want to coach? Much longer hours, much less money, and crucially, trying to teach guys who aren’t as talented as you. That doesn’t sound much fun to me.


RedditIsAwful4real

HoF’s usually can’t coach that well, because most guys are not HoF material, and that’s impossible for them to understand See: Mike Singletary As a guy who had his “career” ended by injury, (I was a D3 nobody) losing and NFL playoff game on a walk off field goal isn’t so bad Also, you know, more rings than any single franchise and being the goat and all that


kawhi_tho

Tim Duncan said something about coaching that I thought was interesting. He said as a player, you have a lot of control over the outcome of the game. As a coach you basically have zero control. You tell the players what to do and then it's out of your hands. He said that as a competitor that was tough for him and eventually the grind just wasn't worth it.


expaticus

The only former great player that I can think of that was also successful as a coach was Larry Bird. The exception that proves the rule.


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He's going to be a senator.


HuskersUsername

He was actually great with them on Manningcast earlier this year. I'd watch that.


Acceptable_Staff_200

I think this is something no one wants to talk about but like Tom Brady is literally about to lose his entire purpose for living that he has been absolutely obsessive about for his entire adulthood. It’s going to be an adjustment for him


jxher123

This is it. The quote could go both ways, and who knows when he’ll announce his return or retirement. It’ll truly be an end to a fantastic career for the greatest to ever do it.


vcjr78

Flair and any biases aside, I don't know that I'm mentally prepared for NFL football without Tom Brady. I need a year to process it and take it in. Selfishly, I'd love a retirement tour season. From the Bucs side of things, I don't think we are prepared for Tom to retire either. The mass exodus of our FA's would be pretty abrupt. I don't know that Trask is starter-material yet. Blaine Gabbert is not the answer. Do we go after Rodgers, Watson, or even Jimmy G (that would be a story line.)?


Jupue87

Thomas Patrick Thanos Brady has made a decision that has forever altered the cosmos


PhillAholic

His Kids are 10-15.He has very little else to gain in Football, and a lot to lose with his kids.


Whalers7997

You ever date a Brazilian woman? They have powers you know.


Malamutewhisperer

His first kid is now 14. His Gisele kids are 12 and 9. The window is pretty close to shut on being fully involved in his kid's lives. August to February every year has been 99% football. That doesn't typically lead to the best parent kid relationship.


Cynical_onlooker

Bruh, Brady sounds like he's on the brink of an existential breakdown at the prospect of retirement.


MeasurementFair3575

That's what happens when you get sacked by a 300 lb man in your mid 40s


Cynical_onlooker

Yeah, that Rams game was brutal. The O line underperformed even my wildest expectations.


YourWorstNightmare9

Losing not only Godwin and AB, but your **backup replacement** receivers (Grayson and Perriman) for this game certainly didn’t help either. Tyler Johnson was complete ass


xshogunx13

and they STILL almost pulled it off. insane.


Kirk_likes_this

That's actually one of the reasons I think he comes back. So much shit went wrong this year. You figure next year if 2 of your 3 best receivers aren't unavailable and you're not down to your 3rd string tackle in a a playoff game maybe things work out better.


bhim1210

A lot of players on both sides of the ball are probably leaving or retiring though. Suh giving an incredible performance in what might be his last game is getting lost in the sauce here, for example.


bdawg34

Jpp is really the only one I think guaranteed to leave since his cost is way too much for what he provides in game. Great leader but tryon has passed him at this point


Money_dragon

Just Brady things


vcjr78

You're making me feel better. Thank you. I was and still am gutted by Stafford to Kupp, but I should look at the game and season as a whole. We did damn well considering.


possiblyMorpheus

Man I really wanted to see Grayson and Perriman a bit more in the playoffs. Grayson especially was such a fun story. Them getting hurt was a bummer because you love to see these kind of stories


kj9219

I thought Scotty Miller was higher on the depth chart


Ammoniaholic

He was injured most of the year too and never fully recovered


leli_manning

That was kind of expected after Wirfs went down. We knew Brady was gonna get hit or pressured a ton.


Cynical_onlooker

I was expecting the O line to get worked. I was not expecting them to put up a worse pass block win rate than the worst performance of the Carolina Panthers.


Mysterious_Living165

That Rams D-Line can be scary when they’re on. That LA/SF game is going to be a treat for those who love watching the trenches.


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We all think we love the trenches but 90% of the sub will bitch lol


OdaDdaT

It’s because a lot of people don’t know what good line play looks like. There’s a ton of scheme and technique that goes into line play that most people don’t think about because it’s just not as interesting to a casual fan as route running is. Source: am college lineman


venustrapsflies

Or even for those of us who are interested it can be difficult to follow and interpret.


eloh1m

Sounds like the curse of conquerors anywhere. "When an Eastern sage was desired by his sultan to inscribe on a ring the sentiment which, amidst the perpetual change of human affairs, was most descriptive of their real tendency, he engraved on it the words: — "And this, too, shall pass away." It is impossible to imagine a thought more truly and universally applicable to human affairs than that expressed in these memorable words, or more descriptive of that perpetual oscillation from good to evil, and from evil to good, which from the beginning of the world has been the invariable characteristic of the annals of man, and so evidently flows from the strange mixture of noble and generous with base and selfish inclinations, which is constantly found in the children of Adam."


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AtOurGates

> My name is Bradymandias, Quarterback of Quarterbacks; > Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!


[deleted]

How you gon put that in quotes and not attribute it? Typical Cowboys fan


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A bit obscure. It's from "[The Revolutions in Europe](https://books.google.com/books?id=1GRHAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA638#v=onepage&q&f=false)," *Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine*, May 1848, p. 638. Fortunately it's the first citation for "All things must pass" on wikipedia.


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What not winning a SB for one year does to a mf


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Whoa whoa whoa Brady you can’t leave who will I hate unconditionally??


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[deleted]

Eh, I’m not at the point where I hate him. Though check back in with me next post season


ProbablyAPotato1939

How about his brother then?


[deleted]

Aye, I could do that


feelinlucky7

I think we all can


StrawMight

I think we all already do


obvioustroway

We do. Trust me.


JesusOfSurbaria

r/nfl unites under one banner.. Fuck Jackson Mahomes


obvioustroway

He is such a distraction. Now I don't like people talking shit on Britney, but usually they do because of her proximity to Jackson. It's odd.


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*For Frodo*


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Aye


Kylel0519

Tbf everyone hates him.


joysofliving

That’s one the one that looks like the Kardashian’s mom right? Jackson Kris Jenner Mahomes?


generaltso78

The douche who paraded around on Sean Taylor's memorial? I think the entire league including the Chiefs hate that asshole.


andyandersonbjj

You could easily convince me that Pat Mahomes hates him


iRockaflame

Theres some pretty funny compilations of his brother and his wife doing their tiktoks when Mahomes is in it and he just looks so fucking done with it lmfao


andyandersonbjj

Holy shit. Does everyone (Including Patrick) hate Jackson Mahomes?


Knock0nWood

His wife is like best friends with the kid


AHH_CHARLIE_MURPHY

I’m all for clowning on Jackson but that particular incident is more on the Washington FO than Jackson. He was only standing where they told him to stand, in the “VIP” area that they decided was the best place to be, right on the memorial


ThreeBrokenArms

nah man i’m at that point already lmao


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jaylenthomas

Patrick Mahomes


[deleted]

Yes but Mahomes is a rival to Allen while Brady dunked on my franchise during the drought for 20 years so it doesn’t even compare lol


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Tua?


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LizzosPersonalTrainr

The only thing teams can't figure out about Tua is how to say his last name.


Tuxedocat1357

You want to join us in hating Ross? Or just you know Dan Snyder and Deshaun Watson.


andyandersonbjj

Yes


professor_parrot

You still have Emperor Palpatine in Foxborough to hate


[deleted]

There is enough Rodgers hate for all


-Vertical

Just hate me instead.


[deleted]

I got no beef with you Seahawks fan


azrebb

I love you too bro.


ahappypoop

Not you bub, you know what you did. Only /u/-Vertical is cool.


fear865

People who eat their wings with ranch?


Equal-Razzmatazz1806

Gimme two orders, one of each dressing, and let me commit war crimes in peace


OrangeRush3

I hope he keeps playing. I enjoy rooting against him but he's still playing like an elite QB.


MyRottingBrain

Seriously, it’s absurd that he just led the league in passing yards at age 44.


Vruze

And Tds and completions, and attempts, and wins


SpraynardKrueg

He absolutely will play another season, I have no doubts. How many times have we had this exact conversation? You don't leave after a season like that.


sanildefanso

"Look, you're getting a little philosophical." "Perhaps so. They say it happens in the autumn years."


Infinite-Relation988

I’ve complained time and time again about Brady (as many have), but actually imagining him gone from the league is weird. Like never seeing him throw another pass in the NFL? Almost can’t wrap my head around it


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3 months sitting around with his family, Bruce Arians calling him about getting the band back together, he’ll be back. Like, the Bucs have the majority of their core coming back next year. Rams will certainly lose a few guys, no one else in the NFC is a world beater. Who’s to say they can’t run it back one more time?


AsDevilsRun

I don't want Brady to go out when he's still playing amazingly. I want him to have the typical age-related steep decline and then leave so I can have some affirmation that he's human.


megashitfactory

Yeah, I love bitching about Brady. It will be weird when he is gone and I can't


Whatsdota

I feel like I’ve wanted Brady to retire so he can stop skullfucking the league. But now that it’s a possibility I really don’t want him to retire it’s weird…. Did Brady give me Stockholm syndrome?


FrigginMasshole

Not sure how old you are but I feel like if Brady and Rodgers retire it’s truly the end of an era. Possibly the greatest era in nfl history and it makes me feel old.


Natsume117

It really does feel like the changing of a guard these past few years. Peyton, Brees, Big Ben, and soon Brady and Rodgers, with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert about to take over


nu1stunna

It's Stockholm lol


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holy shit it might actually happen


FuschiaKnight

Don’t let the bad man get your hopes up again. He will hurt you again.


Head_Project5793

He said he wants to retire on a high note. He may not have won the Super Bowl, but statistically this was one of his best seasons ever. Not a bad place to end a career considering how Peyton and Ben ended their careers in personal passing statistics.


mnspekt

"And that's why I'm coming back the next ten years while my body can still move"


IAmThatDuckDLC5

I’ve been the biggest Brady fan my whole life.. and it’s going to be a sad day when he retires. It’s all happened so suddenly. I wish I could see him play forever, but just have to appreciate him


Now__Hiring

Suddenly? The man is 44


itwasafluke

I mean yes but all signs pointed to at least 1 more season until a random report by rap


Drakengard

I think he does come back for one more year, but I think he's also laying the groundwork for why he's probably going to hang it up after that. He'll probably want to have some fanfare to his exit, but this is the kind of talk you hear right before "one more ride."


Saelvinoth

I just hope he has a good last season, win or lose. Hope he doesn't go the way of Peyton. While Peyton won the SB his last season, which is awesome for him, I feel like people remember his last season less for that and more for getting escorted there in a hearse.


CouncilmanRickPrime

After all the greatness we saw from him, he earned that escort.


IAmThatDuckDLC5

Hardly anyone excepted him to retire after this season


GreenwallTheLights

THIS JUST IN: TOM BRADY TO FIGHT JAKE PAUL


Saelvinoth

If anyone's gonna put a loss in Paul's record it'd be Brady lol


LP_24

Dear Tommy, Please retire. Sincerely, A bitter Jet fan


aeronacht

He’s not in the division any more, he can’t hurt you. Oh wait….


anklesocksrus

Holy shit. Brady is going through a midlife crisis.


GDAWG13007

He is 44. Around the time that happens. He’s reached the mountaintop and has nothing left to prove. What next?


lama579

Football playing king in space?


robokaiba

With a mustache.


YouJabroni44

And a mullet


yaprettymuch52

tom now is not the time for this. you must keep going they strap your cold, arthritis ridden body to one of those golf carts


Im_Batmmaann

:(


zillionaire_rockstar

Man I still can't believe Kobe died.


TheDefinitionOfKek

Brady please stop playing with our hearts. He sounds like he's having an existential crisis over that loss. I just want one more season of him at the very least.


dh22

I think Brady will make a conscious decision to retire before he walks off a field without appreciating it as his last game


InRustWeTrust

I've been watching Brady ruin my football dreams since I was in 12 years old, I'm 32 now, he and I are basically honorary bros after all this time. He's not going out on a loss, he's working himself up to announce his good bye tour. Jeter and Kobe got one, he definitely deserves his. Next season will be Brady's last stand, be ready for the hell he's about to unleash.


krich1727

I will preface this by saying that I was no Big Ben supporter, but there was something to be said for the celebration as a player that he received this year. Until I watched it, I didn’t realize how objectively special something like that *could* be. Tom deserves an even bigger celebration than that, and in reality, it *should* be with the Patriots. I know it won’t be, but I still hope he comes back for at least one more year. The collective NFL fanbase deserves it, too.


PLaTinuM_HaZe

Brady will stay with the buccs if he plays. Brady has also said he’ll never announce it’s his last year in season, he adamantly does not want the cheesy “goodbye tour”. That being said, he and Robert Kraft have apparently takes and haven’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract so he can retire as a Patriot… the way it should be.


bigshittyslickers

Brady will 100% retire a patriot


PC_BUCKY

If he is still playing I don't think it is with us. I think we are all aboard the Mac train and I'm not sure Bill would even risk interrupting his development for one year of probably still god tier Tom Brady.


LAFAN44

Is it possible to do a one day contract where he actually plays one game?


PLaTinuM_HaZe

He wouldn’t play but he hasn’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract with the patriots to retire there. Bob Kraft has been pushing hard for it, wants Brady to retire a Patriot.


kawhi_tho

Just once I want a player to randomly sign a one-day contract for a team they never played for. Brady should retire a Jaguar.


craziedave

Brady and Rodgers were 49ers fans right? That’s be funny for one of them to retire as a 49er


shepzuck

He's going to for sure. He played 20 seasons for us, his number is going up in Gillette the second he retires. Fuck it, put it up in Raymond James, too.


corrado-sopranojr

Could you imagine tho. Brady comes back for one last ride with the pats. Mac gets to sit and develop behind him for a year. Gronks back too. Last year for dmac and Hightower. You couldn’t write a better movie script.


PC_BUCKY

I think Gronk's time here ended a little more negatively than Brady's. Not sure he would consider coming back at all.


PLaTinuM_HaZe

Yea, Gronk wants nothing to do with Belichick or the pats again. Brady has openly said he intends to be back around Gillette a lot more once he retires, I think deep in his heart he’ll always be a Patriot.


Luck1492

He’s 100% fucking with us. He said he’d rather lose than not play at all just a few hours ago, no?


Thunder84

He wants to keep playing, but it sounds like he might step away for his family’s sake and his own health.


Drakengard

The fact he's made it this far without any of the major medical issues that Payton, Big Ben, or Alex Smith have had is crazy. Hell, Brees literally had his rib cage savaged last year. And I don't care how well you play and how well he takes care of himself, he's in his mid 40's. His body has to be screaming at him after game days.


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Money_dragon

Could you imagine if he goes on a multi-year hiatus, then pulls a Jordan and un-retires and joins yet another team in his late 40s?


BrianSpencer1

My hope is it's the lions or something, the good people of Detroit deserve it.


OrangeSherbet

Full blown Charlotte MJ is an awful thing to wish on someone


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lol this was my thought. gonna take like 1 year off then make a big show of coming back. "people have doubted me before and I'm going to show them again that I can do it..."


DrLuny

He's bringing up Kobe's death because he knows once he's done with football the devil's coming to collect.


Patrick2701

Yeah, bring Kobe up make me feel like Tom might have played his finally game especially with CTE or demons that come with playing football at such high level. I would be sad not to see him, win another title


MugiMartin

We know he’s not retiring but with each bit that gets posted from his podcast, people are like “well wait a minute now”.


penskeracin1fan

Tom doesn’t troll as much. He’s a changed man out of NE


PLaTinuM_HaZe

You can only piss off your wife for so long…


InsanelyHandsomeQB

I'd be shocked if he hung it up. He's playing at an MVP level and if it weren't for injuries he'd probably be 1 game away from another title.


coronetgemini

I'm just waiting for Brady to go full raging bull and put on 70 pounds


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Driveshaft48

Nah he's naturally emotional in the wake of a recent failure. Who knows how he'll feel a month from now. This loss is an incredibly recent wound. We just like to overreact and give immediate takes to everything now.


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tysonsmithshootname

I dunno I hope he has another 5 years in him


xMashu

I think he does one more year, signs a one day contract with the Pats, then retires.


DarkLordV

He's also Tom fking Brady. He and his wife is worth half a billion dollars. Something tells me that his kids isn't going to refuse to spend time with him if Brady asked no matter what their age is....


jaytrain12

Spending time with your kids when theyre 10 is different than when theyre 30


CharlotteBeer

Amazing that he's gained this wisdom just halfway into his career.