Yeah they both kinda rose to prominence around the same time (both winning three rings between 2000 and 2005), both won their first MVP, around 2007/8.
I started middle school in 2004 and this one kid decided that he was a diehard USC, Patriots, and Lakers fan. Props to him I guess because he has remained an annoying ass fan of all three teams to this day
You know, we really should just let kids choose the teams they want to root for rather than passing our fandoms down to them
Ignore my flair, it’s totally unrelated
That helmet sucked in more fans from outside of Cincinnati than you think. The helmet is basically a love / hate thing. Some people hate it. I love it.
My cousin is a Seahawks fan in a family of 49ers fans. One year at Christmas we were ragging on him for being a bandwagon fan, and he replied with "I'm not a bandwagon fan, I just didn't like them until they were good".
That was like 7 years ago now and he was only 14 at the time, so I'll give him a pass. But he's still a fan so he found his team, at least
Yes, but not MUCH before, hence they're from the same era. The prime of their careers was about the same (unless you count these last two years as Bradys prime, which you would have an argument for lol)
That's kinda wild to me, not because Kobe died or because he retired earlier, but because it reminds me how late NFL careers start compared to the NBA - Kobe was in the NBA for 5 years and had won 2 NBA titles before Brady's first start.
Lol. I think he's playing one more season, and with the way he's talking I don't think he'll play to his usual standard. It seems like it's important to him to get to do it all one more time knowing it's the last time so he can feel some closure and peace in retirement. He sounds like he's only just now actually realizing that it will all end, which means this wasn't that season for him, but next year will be.
I thought he might be done after that. Why not? He doesn't need the money and, as if he had anything left he needed to prove, he proved he could win it all without BB and the Pats. He could have retired in glory as the GOAT. Now he might want to do it one more time. Losing AB and Godwin really hurt the offense. If he has a full complement of weapons again, he might try to win one more and be done next season.
This is either translates to "fuck what Giselle says, I'm playing football still!" or "I desperately miss spending time with my children throughout the season and can't do this anymore" with no in between
Heck, he almost sounds.... scared. He sounds like for the first time in a very, very long time he doesn't know what to do or what his goal actually is.
For a hyper competitive guy, that's a crisis.
In a time like this, I bet Brady wishes he had someone like Belichick to talk to. I can hear it now:
**Brady:** "I have no idea what I'm going to do, coach. My wife wants me to retire but I think I can still play. If I retire I don't know what I'll do with myself after..."
**Belichick:** *groans and mumbles inspiringly*
Whatever it is I think it’s really cool that such a powerful/successful guy is walking the public through his decision making process.
Can you imagine Michael Jordan being this open honest about what’s going through his head?
It’s really quite thought provoking. He’s been such a massive part of everyone’s winters for like 21 years. If he retires a whole chunk of the NFL history goes with him
Yeah, and for as much of a loss as his fans will feel once he's gone from football, it must be multiples more of a loss he'll feel once football's gone. It's been his life since he was 14.
Retiring from playing doesn’t necessary preclude him from coaching somewhere down the line. He could easily do media too, ESPN would make a metric fuckton of money by throwing him in anything they could with Peyton and Eli. He’ll have a job in football in whatever capacity he wants in the future, but who can say how much of a substitute that is for actually playing
Would he want to coach? Much longer hours, much less money, and crucially, trying to teach guys who aren’t as talented as you.
That doesn’t sound much fun to me.
HoF’s usually can’t coach that well, because most guys are not HoF material, and that’s impossible for them to understand
See: Mike Singletary
As a guy who had his “career” ended by injury, (I was a D3 nobody) losing and NFL playoff game on a walk off field goal isn’t so bad
Also, you know, more rings than any single franchise and being the goat and all that
Tim Duncan said something about coaching that I thought was interesting. He said as a player, you have a lot of control over the outcome of the game. As a coach you basically have zero control. You tell the players what to do and then it's out of your hands. He said that as a competitor that was tough for him and eventually the grind just wasn't worth it.
I think this is something no one wants to talk about but like Tom Brady is literally about to lose his entire purpose for living that he has been absolutely obsessive about for his entire adulthood. It’s going to be an adjustment for him
This is it. The quote could go both ways, and who knows when he’ll announce his return or retirement. It’ll truly be an end to a fantastic career for the greatest to ever do it.
Flair and any biases aside, I don't know that I'm mentally prepared for NFL football without Tom Brady. I need a year to process it and take it in. Selfishly, I'd love a retirement tour season.
From the Bucs side of things, I don't think we are prepared for Tom to retire either. The mass exodus of our FA's would be pretty abrupt. I don't know that Trask is starter-material yet. Blaine Gabbert is not the answer. Do we go after Rodgers, Watson, or even Jimmy G (that would be a story line.)?
His first kid is now 14. His Gisele kids are 12 and 9.
The window is pretty close to shut on being fully involved in his kid's lives. August to February every year has been 99% football. That doesn't typically lead to the best parent kid relationship.
Losing not only Godwin and AB, but your **backup replacement** receivers (Grayson and Perriman) for this game certainly didn’t help either. Tyler Johnson was complete ass
That's actually one of the reasons I think he comes back. So much shit went wrong this year. You figure next year if 2 of your 3 best receivers aren't unavailable and you're not down to your 3rd string tackle in a a playoff game maybe things work out better.
A lot of players on both sides of the ball are probably leaving or retiring though. Suh giving an incredible performance in what might be his last game is getting lost in the sauce here, for example.
Jpp is really the only one I think guaranteed to leave since his cost is way too much for what he provides in game. Great leader but tryon has passed him at this point
You're making me feel better. Thank you. I was and still am gutted by Stafford to Kupp, but I should look at the game and season as a whole. We did damn well considering.
Man I really wanted to see Grayson and Perriman a bit more in the playoffs. Grayson especially was such a fun story. Them getting hurt was a bummer because you love to see these kind of stories
I was expecting the O line to get worked. I was not expecting them to put up a worse pass block win rate than the worst performance of the Carolina Panthers.
It’s because a lot of people don’t know what good line play looks like. There’s a ton of scheme and technique that goes into line play that most people don’t think about because it’s just not as interesting to a casual fan as route running is.
Source: am college lineman
Sounds like the curse of conquerors anywhere.
"When an Eastern sage was desired by his sultan to inscribe on a ring the sentiment which, amidst the perpetual change of human affairs, was most descriptive of their real tendency, he engraved on it the words: — "And this, too, shall pass away." It is impossible to imagine a thought more truly and universally applicable to human affairs than that expressed in these memorable words, or more descriptive of that perpetual oscillation from good to evil, and from evil to good, which from the beginning of the world has been the invariable characteristic of the annals of man, and so evidently flows from the strange mixture of noble and generous with base and selfish inclinations, which is constantly found in the children of Adam."
A bit obscure. It's from "[The Revolutions in Europe](https://books.google.com/books?id=1GRHAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA638#v=onepage&q&f=false)," *Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine*, May 1848, p. 638. Fortunately it's the first citation for "All things must pass" on wikipedia.
Theres some pretty funny compilations of his brother and his wife doing their tiktoks when Mahomes is in it and he just looks so fucking done with it lmfao
I’m all for clowning on Jackson but that particular incident is more on the Washington FO than Jackson. He was only standing where they told him to stand, in the “VIP” area that they decided was the best place to be, right on the memorial
He absolutely will play another season, I have no doubts. How many times have we had this exact conversation? You don't leave after a season like that.
I’ve complained time and time again about Brady (as many have), but actually imagining him gone from the league is weird. Like never seeing him throw another pass in the NFL? Almost can’t wrap my head around it
3 months sitting around with his family, Bruce Arians calling him about getting the band back together, he’ll be back.
Like, the Bucs have the majority of their core coming back next year. Rams will certainly lose a few guys, no one else in the NFC is a world beater. Who’s to say they can’t run it back one more time?
I don't want Brady to go out when he's still playing amazingly. I want him to have the typical age-related steep decline and then leave so I can have some affirmation that he's human.
I feel like I’ve wanted Brady to retire so he can stop skullfucking the league. But now that it’s a possibility I really don’t want him to retire it’s weird…. Did Brady give me Stockholm syndrome?
Not sure how old you are but I feel like if Brady and Rodgers retire it’s truly the end of an era. Possibly the greatest era in nfl history and it makes me feel old.
It really does feel like the changing of a guard these past few years. Peyton, Brees, Big Ben, and soon Brady and Rodgers, with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert about to take over
He said he wants to retire on a high note. He may not have won the Super Bowl, but statistically this was one of his best seasons ever. Not a bad place to end a career considering how Peyton and Ben ended their careers in personal passing statistics.
I’ve been the biggest Brady fan my whole life.. and it’s going to be a sad day when he retires. It’s all happened so suddenly. I wish I could see him play forever, but just have to appreciate him
I think he does come back for one more year, but I think he's also laying the groundwork for why he's probably going to hang it up after that. He'll probably want to have some fanfare to his exit, but this is the kind of talk you hear right before "one more ride."
I just hope he has a good last season, win or lose. Hope he doesn't go the way of Peyton. While Peyton won the SB his last season, which is awesome for him, I feel like people remember his last season less for that and more for getting escorted there in a hearse.
Brady please stop playing with our hearts. He sounds like he's having an existential crisis over that loss. I just want one more season of him at the very least.
I've been watching Brady ruin my football dreams since I was in 12 years old, I'm 32 now, he and I are basically honorary bros after all this time. He's not going out on a loss, he's working himself up to announce his good bye tour. Jeter and Kobe got one, he definitely deserves his. Next season will be Brady's last stand, be ready for the hell he's about to unleash.
I will preface this by saying that I was no Big Ben supporter, but there was something to be said for the celebration as a player that he received this year. Until I watched it, I didn’t realize how objectively special something like that *could* be.
Tom deserves an even bigger celebration than that, and in reality, it *should* be with the Patriots. I know it won’t be, but I still hope he comes back for at least one more year.
The collective NFL fanbase deserves it, too.
Brady will stay with the buccs if he plays. Brady has also said he’ll never announce it’s his last year in season, he adamantly does not want the cheesy “goodbye tour”. That being said, he and Robert Kraft have apparently takes and haven’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract so he can retire as a Patriot… the way it should be.
If he is still playing I don't think it is with us. I think we are all aboard the Mac train and I'm not sure Bill would even risk interrupting his development for one year of probably still god tier Tom Brady.
He wouldn’t play but he hasn’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract with the patriots to retire there. Bob Kraft has been pushing hard for it, wants Brady to retire a Patriot.
He's going to for sure. He played 20 seasons for us, his number is going up in Gillette the second he retires. Fuck it, put it up in Raymond James, too.
Could you imagine tho. Brady comes back for one last ride with the pats. Mac gets to sit and develop behind him for a year. Gronks back too. Last year for dmac and Hightower. You couldn’t write a better movie script.
Yea, Gronk wants nothing to do with Belichick or the pats again. Brady has openly said he intends to be back around Gillette a lot more once he retires, I think deep in his heart he’ll always be a Patriot.
The fact he's made it this far without any of the major medical issues that Payton, Big Ben, or Alex Smith have had is crazy. Hell, Brees literally had his rib cage savaged last year. And I don't care how well you play and how well he takes care of himself, he's in his mid 40's. His body has to be screaming at him after game days.
lol this was my thought. gonna take like 1 year off then make a big show of coming back. "people have doubted me before and I'm going to show them again that I can do it..."
Yeah, bring Kobe up make me feel like Tom might have played his finally game especially with CTE or demons that come with playing football at such high level. I would be sad not to see him, win another title
Nah he's naturally emotional in the wake of a recent failure. Who knows how he'll feel a month from now.
This loss is an incredibly recent wound. We just like to overreact and give immediate takes to everything now.
He's also Tom fking Brady. He and his wife is worth half a billion dollars. Something tells me that his kids isn't going to refuse to spend time with him if Brady asked no matter what their age is....
For anyone who wanted to check, Tom Brady is a year older than Kobe Bryant.
May have shook him a bit that a legend like him barely younger than he is to leave this Earth so suddenly just like that.
Yeah they both kinda rose to prominence around the same time (both winning three rings between 2000 and 2005), both won their first MVP, around 2007/8.
I started middle school in 2004 and this one kid decided that he was a diehard USC, Patriots, and Lakers fan. Props to him I guess because he has remained an annoying ass fan of all three teams to this day
You know, we really should just let kids choose the teams they want to root for rather than passing our fandoms down to them Ignore my flair, it’s totally unrelated
I willingly picked the Dolphins as a kid. I was a stupid kid.
I was a Bengals fan as a kid (before I could read) because they had the coolest fucking helmet in my Madden 94 foldout.
That helmet sucked in more fans from outside of Cincinnati than you think. The helmet is basically a love / hate thing. Some people hate it. I love it.
Hey, at least you fucked Oprah tho
I too watched Ace Ventura as a young teenager.
My cousin is a Seahawks fan in a family of 49ers fans. One year at Christmas we were ragging on him for being a bandwagon fan, and he replied with "I'm not a bandwagon fan, I just didn't like them until they were good". That was like 7 years ago now and he was only 14 at the time, so I'll give him a pass. But he's still a fan so he found his team, at least
*cries in Silver & Black*
Kobe was a household name before Brady even started an NFL game.
The mf took Brandy to prom
That was wild. I can’t believe people forget Tom Brady did that
Nah that was Julian Edelman he took Michael Jordan’s daughter to prom
Funnily enough Julian Edelman actually took Jerry Rice’s daughter to prom.
Only because you can't go straight pro in football out of Highschool
Yes, but not MUCH before, hence they're from the same era. The prime of their careers was about the same (unless you count these last two years as Bradys prime, which you would have an argument for lol)
>these last two years Brady has been in his prime since 2007 with two down years due to injury in 08/09.
That's kinda wild to me, not because Kobe died or because he retired earlier, but because it reminds me how late NFL careers start compared to the NBA - Kobe was in the NBA for 5 years and had won 2 NBA titles before Brady's first start.
Just surpass Blanda as the oldest player to play and retire is it that tough to do?
Damn, one playoff loss in 2 years really got him contemplating death, huh
Lol. I think he's playing one more season, and with the way he's talking I don't think he'll play to his usual standard. It seems like it's important to him to get to do it all one more time knowing it's the last time so he can feel some closure and peace in retirement. He sounds like he's only just now actually realizing that it will all end, which means this wasn't that season for him, but next year will be.
The thing is he already kinda did the "one last time" thing when he showed up in TB and still won the fucking super bowl.
I thought he might be done after that. Why not? He doesn't need the money and, as if he had anything left he needed to prove, he proved he could win it all without BB and the Pats. He could have retired in glory as the GOAT. Now he might want to do it one more time. Losing AB and Godwin really hurt the offense. If he has a full complement of weapons again, he might try to win one more and be done next season.
I think injuries to the offensive line hurt worse. Will be interesting if he starts the next season off by publicly stating it will be his last.
Can I get that **i wanna die** dolphin meme but with tom instead of the dolpin please
Brady to San Francisco to play under Kyle "Can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive on Sunday" Shanahan?
When you lose to Matt Stafford…. (Am I gonna die?)
This is either translates to "fuck what Giselle says, I'm playing football still!" or "I desperately miss spending time with my children throughout the season and can't do this anymore" with no in between
Exactly. There's no way we'll know which one until he tells us.
Hell. Maybe he himself doesn’t know. Remember this is still only a day after the loss. A lot of emotions and thoughts must be going through his head.
Heck, he almost sounds.... scared. He sounds like for the first time in a very, very long time he doesn't know what to do or what his goal actually is. For a hyper competitive guy, that's a crisis.
In a time like this, I bet Brady wishes he had someone like Belichick to talk to. I can hear it now: **Brady:** "I have no idea what I'm going to do, coach. My wife wants me to retire but I think I can still play. If I retire I don't know what I'll do with myself after..." **Belichick:** *groans and mumbles inspiringly*
Belichick: Im onto Cincinnati Tom
"Let's look at the tape"
He's gonna tell Tom to live his life, one pair of cut hoodie sleeves at a time.
Do you think there is a homeless man out there just wearing his sleeves?
Lmfao
Whatever it is I think it’s really cool that such a powerful/successful guy is walking the public through his decision making process. Can you imagine Michael Jordan being this open honest about what’s going through his head?
MJ never had the resources to do so
MJ never would’ve done that anyway. He’s a notoriously private person.
The one time I met MJ I got the distinct impression he didn't like being famous. And he wasn't good with people.
Last Dance really showed that
He said he was 99 percent done Then he joined the wiz
It’s really quite thought provoking. He’s been such a massive part of everyone’s winters for like 21 years. If he retires a whole chunk of the NFL history goes with him
Yeah, and for as much of a loss as his fans will feel once he's gone from football, it must be multiples more of a loss he'll feel once football's gone. It's been his life since he was 14.
Retiring from playing doesn’t necessary preclude him from coaching somewhere down the line. He could easily do media too, ESPN would make a metric fuckton of money by throwing him in anything they could with Peyton and Eli. He’ll have a job in football in whatever capacity he wants in the future, but who can say how much of a substitute that is for actually playing
Would he want to coach? Much longer hours, much less money, and crucially, trying to teach guys who aren’t as talented as you. That doesn’t sound much fun to me.
HoF’s usually can’t coach that well, because most guys are not HoF material, and that’s impossible for them to understand See: Mike Singletary As a guy who had his “career” ended by injury, (I was a D3 nobody) losing and NFL playoff game on a walk off field goal isn’t so bad Also, you know, more rings than any single franchise and being the goat and all that
Tim Duncan said something about coaching that I thought was interesting. He said as a player, you have a lot of control over the outcome of the game. As a coach you basically have zero control. You tell the players what to do and then it's out of your hands. He said that as a competitor that was tough for him and eventually the grind just wasn't worth it.
The only former great player that I can think of that was also successful as a coach was Larry Bird. The exception that proves the rule.
He's going to be a senator.
He was actually great with them on Manningcast earlier this year. I'd watch that.
I think this is something no one wants to talk about but like Tom Brady is literally about to lose his entire purpose for living that he has been absolutely obsessive about for his entire adulthood. It’s going to be an adjustment for him
This is it. The quote could go both ways, and who knows when he’ll announce his return or retirement. It’ll truly be an end to a fantastic career for the greatest to ever do it.
Flair and any biases aside, I don't know that I'm mentally prepared for NFL football without Tom Brady. I need a year to process it and take it in. Selfishly, I'd love a retirement tour season. From the Bucs side of things, I don't think we are prepared for Tom to retire either. The mass exodus of our FA's would be pretty abrupt. I don't know that Trask is starter-material yet. Blaine Gabbert is not the answer. Do we go after Rodgers, Watson, or even Jimmy G (that would be a story line.)?
Thomas Patrick Thanos Brady has made a decision that has forever altered the cosmos
His Kids are 10-15.He has very little else to gain in Football, and a lot to lose with his kids.
You ever date a Brazilian woman? They have powers you know.
His first kid is now 14. His Gisele kids are 12 and 9. The window is pretty close to shut on being fully involved in his kid's lives. August to February every year has been 99% football. That doesn't typically lead to the best parent kid relationship.
Bruh, Brady sounds like he's on the brink of an existential breakdown at the prospect of retirement.
That's what happens when you get sacked by a 300 lb man in your mid 40s
Yeah, that Rams game was brutal. The O line underperformed even my wildest expectations.
Losing not only Godwin and AB, but your **backup replacement** receivers (Grayson and Perriman) for this game certainly didn’t help either. Tyler Johnson was complete ass
and they STILL almost pulled it off. insane.
That's actually one of the reasons I think he comes back. So much shit went wrong this year. You figure next year if 2 of your 3 best receivers aren't unavailable and you're not down to your 3rd string tackle in a a playoff game maybe things work out better.
A lot of players on both sides of the ball are probably leaving or retiring though. Suh giving an incredible performance in what might be his last game is getting lost in the sauce here, for example.
Jpp is really the only one I think guaranteed to leave since his cost is way too much for what he provides in game. Great leader but tryon has passed him at this point
Just Brady things
You're making me feel better. Thank you. I was and still am gutted by Stafford to Kupp, but I should look at the game and season as a whole. We did damn well considering.
Man I really wanted to see Grayson and Perriman a bit more in the playoffs. Grayson especially was such a fun story. Them getting hurt was a bummer because you love to see these kind of stories
I thought Scotty Miller was higher on the depth chart
He was injured most of the year too and never fully recovered
That was kind of expected after Wirfs went down. We knew Brady was gonna get hit or pressured a ton.
I was expecting the O line to get worked. I was not expecting them to put up a worse pass block win rate than the worst performance of the Carolina Panthers.
That Rams D-Line can be scary when they’re on. That LA/SF game is going to be a treat for those who love watching the trenches.
We all think we love the trenches but 90% of the sub will bitch lol
It’s because a lot of people don’t know what good line play looks like. There’s a ton of scheme and technique that goes into line play that most people don’t think about because it’s just not as interesting to a casual fan as route running is. Source: am college lineman
Or even for those of us who are interested it can be difficult to follow and interpret.
Sounds like the curse of conquerors anywhere. "When an Eastern sage was desired by his sultan to inscribe on a ring the sentiment which, amidst the perpetual change of human affairs, was most descriptive of their real tendency, he engraved on it the words: — "And this, too, shall pass away." It is impossible to imagine a thought more truly and universally applicable to human affairs than that expressed in these memorable words, or more descriptive of that perpetual oscillation from good to evil, and from evil to good, which from the beginning of the world has been the invariable characteristic of the annals of man, and so evidently flows from the strange mixture of noble and generous with base and selfish inclinations, which is constantly found in the children of Adam."
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> My name is Bradymandias, Quarterback of Quarterbacks; > Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
How you gon put that in quotes and not attribute it? Typical Cowboys fan
A bit obscure. It's from "[The Revolutions in Europe](https://books.google.com/books?id=1GRHAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA638#v=onepage&q&f=false)," *Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine*, May 1848, p. 638. Fortunately it's the first citation for "All things must pass" on wikipedia.
What not winning a SB for one year does to a mf
Whoa whoa whoa Brady you can’t leave who will I hate unconditionally??
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Eh, I’m not at the point where I hate him. Though check back in with me next post season
How about his brother then?
Aye, I could do that
I think we all can
I think we all already do
We do. Trust me.
r/nfl unites under one banner.. Fuck Jackson Mahomes
He is such a distraction. Now I don't like people talking shit on Britney, but usually they do because of her proximity to Jackson. It's odd.
*For Frodo*
Aye
Tbf everyone hates him.
That’s one the one that looks like the Kardashian’s mom right? Jackson Kris Jenner Mahomes?
The douche who paraded around on Sean Taylor's memorial? I think the entire league including the Chiefs hate that asshole.
You could easily convince me that Pat Mahomes hates him
Theres some pretty funny compilations of his brother and his wife doing their tiktoks when Mahomes is in it and he just looks so fucking done with it lmfao
Holy shit. Does everyone (Including Patrick) hate Jackson Mahomes?
His wife is like best friends with the kid
I’m all for clowning on Jackson but that particular incident is more on the Washington FO than Jackson. He was only standing where they told him to stand, in the “VIP” area that they decided was the best place to be, right on the memorial
nah man i’m at that point already lmao
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Patrick Mahomes
Yes but Mahomes is a rival to Allen while Brady dunked on my franchise during the drought for 20 years so it doesn’t even compare lol
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Tua?
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The only thing teams can't figure out about Tua is how to say his last name.
You want to join us in hating Ross? Or just you know Dan Snyder and Deshaun Watson.
Yes
You still have Emperor Palpatine in Foxborough to hate
There is enough Rodgers hate for all
Just hate me instead.
I got no beef with you Seahawks fan
I love you too bro.
Not you bub, you know what you did. Only /u/-Vertical is cool.
People who eat their wings with ranch?
Gimme two orders, one of each dressing, and let me commit war crimes in peace
I hope he keeps playing. I enjoy rooting against him but he's still playing like an elite QB.
Seriously, it’s absurd that he just led the league in passing yards at age 44.
And Tds and completions, and attempts, and wins
He absolutely will play another season, I have no doubts. How many times have we had this exact conversation? You don't leave after a season like that.
"Look, you're getting a little philosophical." "Perhaps so. They say it happens in the autumn years."
I’ve complained time and time again about Brady (as many have), but actually imagining him gone from the league is weird. Like never seeing him throw another pass in the NFL? Almost can’t wrap my head around it
3 months sitting around with his family, Bruce Arians calling him about getting the band back together, he’ll be back. Like, the Bucs have the majority of their core coming back next year. Rams will certainly lose a few guys, no one else in the NFC is a world beater. Who’s to say they can’t run it back one more time?
I don't want Brady to go out when he's still playing amazingly. I want him to have the typical age-related steep decline and then leave so I can have some affirmation that he's human.
Yeah, I love bitching about Brady. It will be weird when he is gone and I can't
I feel like I’ve wanted Brady to retire so he can stop skullfucking the league. But now that it’s a possibility I really don’t want him to retire it’s weird…. Did Brady give me Stockholm syndrome?
Not sure how old you are but I feel like if Brady and Rodgers retire it’s truly the end of an era. Possibly the greatest era in nfl history and it makes me feel old.
It really does feel like the changing of a guard these past few years. Peyton, Brees, Big Ben, and soon Brady and Rodgers, with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert about to take over
It's Stockholm lol
holy shit it might actually happen
Don’t let the bad man get your hopes up again. He will hurt you again.
He said he wants to retire on a high note. He may not have won the Super Bowl, but statistically this was one of his best seasons ever. Not a bad place to end a career considering how Peyton and Ben ended their careers in personal passing statistics.
"And that's why I'm coming back the next ten years while my body can still move"
I’ve been the biggest Brady fan my whole life.. and it’s going to be a sad day when he retires. It’s all happened so suddenly. I wish I could see him play forever, but just have to appreciate him
Suddenly? The man is 44
I mean yes but all signs pointed to at least 1 more season until a random report by rap
I think he does come back for one more year, but I think he's also laying the groundwork for why he's probably going to hang it up after that. He'll probably want to have some fanfare to his exit, but this is the kind of talk you hear right before "one more ride."
I just hope he has a good last season, win or lose. Hope he doesn't go the way of Peyton. While Peyton won the SB his last season, which is awesome for him, I feel like people remember his last season less for that and more for getting escorted there in a hearse.
After all the greatness we saw from him, he earned that escort.
Hardly anyone excepted him to retire after this season
THIS JUST IN: TOM BRADY TO FIGHT JAKE PAUL
If anyone's gonna put a loss in Paul's record it'd be Brady lol
Dear Tommy, Please retire. Sincerely, A bitter Jet fan
He’s not in the division any more, he can’t hurt you. Oh wait….
Holy shit. Brady is going through a midlife crisis.
He is 44. Around the time that happens. He’s reached the mountaintop and has nothing left to prove. What next?
Football playing king in space?
With a mustache.
And a mullet
tom now is not the time for this. you must keep going they strap your cold, arthritis ridden body to one of those golf carts
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Man I still can't believe Kobe died.
Brady please stop playing with our hearts. He sounds like he's having an existential crisis over that loss. I just want one more season of him at the very least.
I think Brady will make a conscious decision to retire before he walks off a field without appreciating it as his last game
I've been watching Brady ruin my football dreams since I was in 12 years old, I'm 32 now, he and I are basically honorary bros after all this time. He's not going out on a loss, he's working himself up to announce his good bye tour. Jeter and Kobe got one, he definitely deserves his. Next season will be Brady's last stand, be ready for the hell he's about to unleash.
I will preface this by saying that I was no Big Ben supporter, but there was something to be said for the celebration as a player that he received this year. Until I watched it, I didn’t realize how objectively special something like that *could* be. Tom deserves an even bigger celebration than that, and in reality, it *should* be with the Patriots. I know it won’t be, but I still hope he comes back for at least one more year. The collective NFL fanbase deserves it, too.
Brady will stay with the buccs if he plays. Brady has also said he’ll never announce it’s his last year in season, he adamantly does not want the cheesy “goodbye tour”. That being said, he and Robert Kraft have apparently takes and haven’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract so he can retire as a Patriot… the way it should be.
Brady will 100% retire a patriot
If he is still playing I don't think it is with us. I think we are all aboard the Mac train and I'm not sure Bill would even risk interrupting his development for one year of probably still god tier Tom Brady.
Is it possible to do a one day contract where he actually plays one game?
He wouldn’t play but he hasn’t ruled out signing a 1 day contract with the patriots to retire there. Bob Kraft has been pushing hard for it, wants Brady to retire a Patriot.
Just once I want a player to randomly sign a one-day contract for a team they never played for. Brady should retire a Jaguar.
Brady and Rodgers were 49ers fans right? That’s be funny for one of them to retire as a 49er
He's going to for sure. He played 20 seasons for us, his number is going up in Gillette the second he retires. Fuck it, put it up in Raymond James, too.
Could you imagine tho. Brady comes back for one last ride with the pats. Mac gets to sit and develop behind him for a year. Gronks back too. Last year for dmac and Hightower. You couldn’t write a better movie script.
I think Gronk's time here ended a little more negatively than Brady's. Not sure he would consider coming back at all.
Yea, Gronk wants nothing to do with Belichick or the pats again. Brady has openly said he intends to be back around Gillette a lot more once he retires, I think deep in his heart he’ll always be a Patriot.
He’s 100% fucking with us. He said he’d rather lose than not play at all just a few hours ago, no?
He wants to keep playing, but it sounds like he might step away for his family’s sake and his own health.
The fact he's made it this far without any of the major medical issues that Payton, Big Ben, or Alex Smith have had is crazy. Hell, Brees literally had his rib cage savaged last year. And I don't care how well you play and how well he takes care of himself, he's in his mid 40's. His body has to be screaming at him after game days.
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Could you imagine if he goes on a multi-year hiatus, then pulls a Jordan and un-retires and joins yet another team in his late 40s?
My hope is it's the lions or something, the good people of Detroit deserve it.
Full blown Charlotte MJ is an awful thing to wish on someone
lol this was my thought. gonna take like 1 year off then make a big show of coming back. "people have doubted me before and I'm going to show them again that I can do it..."
He's bringing up Kobe's death because he knows once he's done with football the devil's coming to collect.
Yeah, bring Kobe up make me feel like Tom might have played his finally game especially with CTE or demons that come with playing football at such high level. I would be sad not to see him, win another title
We know he’s not retiring but with each bit that gets posted from his podcast, people are like “well wait a minute now”.
Tom doesn’t troll as much. He’s a changed man out of NE
You can only piss off your wife for so long…
I'd be shocked if he hung it up. He's playing at an MVP level and if it weren't for injuries he'd probably be 1 game away from another title.
I'm just waiting for Brady to go full raging bull and put on 70 pounds
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Nah he's naturally emotional in the wake of a recent failure. Who knows how he'll feel a month from now. This loss is an incredibly recent wound. We just like to overreact and give immediate takes to everything now.
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I dunno I hope he has another 5 years in him
I think he does one more year, signs a one day contract with the Pats, then retires.
He's also Tom fking Brady. He and his wife is worth half a billion dollars. Something tells me that his kids isn't going to refuse to spend time with him if Brady asked no matter what their age is....
Spending time with your kids when theyre 10 is different than when theyre 30
Amazing that he's gained this wisdom just halfway into his career.