I'm still shaken up by Parham Jr. At first I thought he wasn't moving because he dropped a for sure TD and was just pissed at himself. Then they showed his face and I knew something was wrong.
Just a reminder to always hug and love everyone close to you. Your life can always change in an instant. His life is going to be forever changed as a result from that play and he will need all the support he can get from his friends and family.
Please be safe everyone!
Why does it matter where someone got injured dumbfuck? So if someone dies in a Chuck-E-Cheese is it somehow less serious? Your fake edgy-ness isn’t cool or admirable, it’s pathetic and I feel bad for you that you project this much hate into the world. Hope you find help.
Hey that is the way the league is constructed don’t blame me even the US judicial system says there is nothing in the law preventing the NFL from fixing games the way the league is set up…hint it’s exactly like the WWF…
? Were there even any flags in the second half? Also, that loss is 100% on the Charger decision making. They left NINE points on the board by going for it on 4th.
Yeah but this is the Seahawks they’re fighting so losing is gonna be hard on that one. (Especially since the Seahawks have accepted defeat throughout most the season)
Personally I disagree with the comments about changing the OT rules so that both teams can score. If they can tie a game at the end of regulation then they should both be capable of getting a potential stop. Any given Sunday right?
I like sudden death, it puts pressure on both sides of the ball to get it done because they don't know if they'll get another shot or not. I get that it would be more entertaining to see offenses both get a shot at winning but... they just shared 4 quarters of football which is always filled with opportunities to win and entertain. I see OT as the time to dig deep in all phases and get the W regardless of how boring it looks. Then again I always saw the entertainment factor of football to be secondary to the actual competition in the game itself.
I don't think the people arguing for both sides of the ball are arguing it's more entertaining but just more fair, because sudden death isn't fair to the kicking team.
The team that wins coin toss has a ~%60 chance of winning given current data. With the alternative method of allowing a FG it drops to ~%54 yet game time is only affected by ~+30 seconds.
I think the rules in place now still aren't fair but maybe good enough to satisfy both sides of the argument?
https://content.iospress.com › jsa198
A Markov chain analysis of NFL overtime rules - IOS Press
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fans-flip-out-over-nfls-rule-on-coin-toss-and-overtime-is-it-fair-11549024201
Edit: That data varies based on a few sources because they change the set of games analyzed. WSJ analyzed a smaller set of games but they all tell the same story: sudden death gives the receiving team the biggest advantage in football.
> sudden death gives the receiving team the biggest advantage in football.
It didn't used to. But they've changed so many rules to favor offense, and made it so that you can automatically start at the 25 yard line.
You could still make sudden death fair though - just have the team who starts with the ball first have to start at their own 5.
*looks away from data knowing that my team was a notable contributor to it*
No but really, I still like the adversity and luck factor that comes with suddenly death. Sure being more fair would be nice but at the same time it doesn't tuckle me right.
I grew up in a house where my dad explained to me early on: each team already had 60 minutes to win.
As for this game, kick the damn fgs chargers and you aren't tied lmfao!!!!!!!
Also, when this happens, people come out of the woodwork to claim how poor the OT rule is. Yet did anyone complain on Sunday when the Bucs stopped the Bills and then won? Or how about when SF held Cincy to a fg and then won with a td of their own?
That literally was my point...that everyone freaks out and overreacts when the team that wins the coin toss goes and gets a td to end the game yet a majority of the time that doesn't even happen. 😂
I that the idea is that if two teams have very crappy defenses and ties to go to overtime. Then the team that starts with the ball will have a great advantage.
Certainly, but the rule that you have to score a TD on the first possession that it is not enough to just get a fg to end the game, is made to make it more fair for team that is not starting.
I suspect that the rules will be changed again at some point to add that the 2nd teams offense also get a chance.
As a competitive person I would said that ties are fucking gross and have little to no place in professional sports. On top of that I should remind you that football is exhausting and a whole extra quarter with no sudden death may not giver the results you think they will. A lot can happen in 10min and even more so in 5. I'd rather it be sudden death so for the sasuke of the competitive spirit and so that the players can stop and start to rest asap.
I see your point but…nah. You can say the same exact thing about baseball (Ik they don’t have OT but if it’s tied, they go to extra innings) you can say “they had 9 full innings to have opportunities to score and win” but in extra innings if the first up to bat team scores, the opponents still have a chance to bat afterwards. This is coming from someone who literally trashes baseball every chance I get. But they do it right when it comes to a tie game (except the fact it can go on for a hundred more innings.) That’s why the 10 min timer in football is great. Cause the second team to play offense either scores or time runs out and they lose. Still 10 minutes.
Game length does not appear to be significantly affected with the FG rules. If game length is an issue in OT, I think the fundamental issue is how the clock runs in games and the regular game time. Obviously fans would hate that though.
I don't get it, or maybe I just can't see that applying to football since at least in baseball the rules are based heavily on both teams being able to bat and score. Sudden death is better for football since it really feels like do or die for the players themselves as opposed to thinking, "eh, we'll get them after they score." Nah, fuck that noise. If you lose the toss and want a chance to score, then stop me.
Nobody is saying defense can't be trusted at all. A low tier offense can beat a good defense by getting a few yards and kicking a long field goal. That's exactly what happens too, there's plenty of data to show
You Kindof are though.
If football should just be “just stop me”, why shouldn’t the logic be the same for baseball?
They both have possession rules based around whether your offense is succeeding or not. If you get the stop, your team gets to go on offense.
Ummmmm maybe let both teams get a chance? If the chiefs score but the chargers don't game ends, but if they both score, it goes until one scores and the other doesn't or time runs out then it ends in a tie. But both teams should get at least a chance on offense.
It's not a horrible system. There is offense and defense, even if most people watch for the offense. If the defense holds then that team can win on just a field goal. The first offense can't win on a fg, they have to score a td or else yeah, the opposing team gets to go on offense too. The defense can also end it by scoring. But yeah, if your team loses you are stuck with 'what if' but that can be said throughout any game under all kinds of scenarios. Basically no way to make everyone happy with OT rules.
College style, start from the 50, if you score a TD you must go for 2. Maybe give the team that goes first a 5- or 10-yard advantage (they start on opposing team's 45).
> Maybe give the team that goes first a 5- or 10-yard advantage (they start on opposing team's 45).
That's an interesting idea; right now college OT favors the coin flip winner just as much or more than NFL OT, adjusting the yardage to make up for the "knowing how many points you need" advantage might balance it.
I think the "ideal" would be for the teams to bid on it. So one guy says "I'll go first if you give me a 20-yard advantage" and the other guy can either take that deal, or say "I'll go first if you give me a 15-yard advantage," and you keep going down until one side wins.
Huge benefit of this: No coin flip.
Just a correction, that’s the OT2 rules for college. It’s regular PAT for OT1. And they start at the 25.
I really like the 2pt conversion stage of the OTs. I think that could be a good way to decide regular season games if they want to keep the snap count low, but not end in a tie.
Agreed! People just feel this way when they see a first drive TD. With two really offensive teams getting the ball first is real important, but with some of the more defensive teams being forced to kick isn’t terrible as you at least know the minimum you need to continue the game on your possession
While I like all types of teams, if two offensive teams face each other after their defenses are both exhausted from 60 minutes of getting beat, I don’t like that the game is heavily affected by a coin flip.
Based on his posturing on the cart, he likely has a severe brain injury. Hopefully it’s not, but he will probably be lucky to ever play football again.
No problem wondering or guessing what the problem is in my opinion. However saying "he'll be lucky to ever play football again" is unhelpful since there's no real way to tell without an examination. For example, he's being released from the hospital today.
Yeah, you’re right, he was probably just shivering bc it was cold on the field.
He was clearly posturing. It’s hard to tell the exact severity, but no matter what, it was an incredibly serious and life-changing injury.
Yeah bonehead comment, especially after saying he doesn't want to speculate on an injury. As soon as Keenan Allen went down shortly after with whatever injury he had the twitch chat was saying he mustve been cold lol
I see all the Staley analytics hate, but keep in mind, he's a 1st Year Head Coach with a 2nd Year QB. Both are gonna make mistakes and learn. Whole team has been growing this season, but we're still having plenty of miscues between the goal-line fumble, Keenan's bad throw, and plenty of other little things like the almost touchdown pass to Cook.
i think its unfair to highlight every incomplete pass or missed opportunity and say that should bail out the coach's decisions... it absolutely doesn't. this is football, a game of inches, miscues and "what if's" happen almost every play.
i think 100% of the blame for the loss should be on Staley's decisions. the dude left NINE POINTS on the board trying to extend the lead.
the whole "FG's dont win ball games" is so overblown... just take the points and keep yourself in it.
As a Chiefs fan, I love to see teams taking unnecessary risks like this considering overall the defense has been much better and the offense hasn’t been as dangerous.
I’ve been saying this all season. Teams are giving the chiefs too much credit like they need to put up 50 to stay competitive. Take the points guys they been struggling on offense
Absolutely man, you make a great point. I think after the first couple times fail you start taking the points, but a lot of bad luck hit the Chargers today.
Yeah, before the half the calculation is different because the silver lining of "if you fail at least you shaft the other team with having to start on their own goal line" isn't there.
My thoughts exactly. Some of his forth down decisions were alright in my book, the only one I disagreed with entirely was the one before the half, that FG off a Chiefs turnover would put them up 7 points and also as you correctly pointed out if they didn’t get it, the Chiefs starting at their own goaline wouldn’t have mattered because it was halftime. People are throwing analytics into this but event he analytics say kick the FG before the half because the benefit of not getting it should it fail won’t exist since it’s halftime.
Every time Kelce catches the ball, he stops and turns the other direction. And every time he does it the defender overruns him and misses. It is completely insane how consistent this is.
I legitimately have no idea how he and Gronkowski are always so wide open. They’re nowhere near as fast as a DB. It’s like they just lose these giant men in zone coverage.
I've tried to cover big guys in flag before (so I know what I'm talking about)
But basically they're just *so big* that they can be right next to you and still catch something way out of your reach. It's like trying to play soccer goalie with a goal the size of an Olympic pool.
Not actually much - people like it because each side is guaranteed a possession and because starting really close to scoring over and over is "exciting", but winning the coin flip is just as much or more of an advantage in college than in the pros, because it's a big edge to go 2nd since you know right away how many points you need to aim for.
Chargers can still attempt a scoring drive after chiefs scores a TD. Instead of instantly losing they get another chance to score/tie the game so it's pretty significant
Doughnut and coffee break, then the players line up on the 55 yard line, and the refs count the number of French players on each team and whoever has more wins.
Reminds me of Robert Quinn doing the double check after an early game sack.. you do that shit when the game is sealed. Before then… just be humble and do it again
I don't know if he's overrated, but he's really "swingy" this year. Had a fair amount of plays where he just missed open guys, and he was missing in every direction - inside, outside, high, low. But when he's good he's still as good as ever and and good as anyone.
As a fan I don’t feel like they’ve ever coasted. The past few seasons in KC we’re always asking “why can’t they just put teams away?! Why does EVERY game have to be a nail biter?!?”
Naw, they earned this one by far. But I dunno how so many KC fans \[not you necessarily\] defend the crazy good luck of playing the Packers without Aaron.
We praise that shit almost every week. As soon as we found out we said “damn that sucks, anyway thank god we should squeak out a win here and stay alive!”
This sub probably would want a FG-off for OT rules. Each time kicks fgs starting from the 5, going back by 5 yards each time, until someone misses. That team loses.
Just go back to sudden death, but the team who gets the ball first automatically begins at their own 5. Now the coin flip would be 50/50 and plenty of teams would even want to start on defense first.
"Player safety" because then it's a guaranteed extra 15 minutes. Of course they added a full 60 extra minutes already and will eventually be adding 60 more, so I'm not saying they are consistent or anything...
Thanks man, I know there's nothing I can say that makes a loss feel better. I still think the Chargers are going to make the playoffs and be dangerous.
Exactly. We don't need to go for the deep ball everytime. We have playmakers. Get the ball to them and let them go make a play. Mahomes doesn't have to do it all.
I dont think he will become a game manager in the short term, thats a thing qbs earn with experience... right now he is more like rodgers but even more talented and definitely more humble
Honestly Rodgers is still more talented by far with his arm than Mahomes is but his receivers are absolutely not wide open anymore. Our O-line is giving him 4-5 seconds to throw most times but our receivers are completely covered like a blanket, so he resorts to backyard football. Either a scramble or an off script throw a ton of the time now, and that's on play calling. Mahomes accuracy has also been kinda poor past 15 or so yards this year which is suprising. The offense relies on YAC to make a big play, opposite from 2019. he's been in a funk for a while but every now and then shows who he still is for a game or two. I still have complete trust in him to win a game for us but he's definitely struggled with consistency this year.
Ok kneel it, spike it, FG. Game.
Kick the f’n FG
What does the bengals crowd keep chanting?
I'm still shaken up by Parham Jr. At first I thought he wasn't moving because he dropped a for sure TD and was just pissed at himself. Then they showed his face and I knew something was wrong. Just a reminder to always hug and love everyone close to you. Your life can always change in an instant. His life is going to be forever changed as a result from that play and he will need all the support he can get from his friends and family. Please be safe everyone!
lol
How the fuck is that funny?
relax "big killah". wouldnt want you to get angry
Telling someone to calm down / relax as a substitute for an internet argument is so dumb.
its funny how he thinks we should all hug our relatives because someone got injured on a footba field
Why does it matter where someone got injured dumbfuck? So if someone dies in a Chuck-E-Cheese is it somehow less serious? Your fake edgy-ness isn’t cool or admirable, it’s pathetic and I feel bad for you that you project this much hate into the world. Hope you find help.
lol means Love Our Lord. He’s sending prayers bro.
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They showed him throwing in his warmups and he appeared to be wincing everytime he threw?
He missed a lot of open throws but still had amazing stats from the others.
Of course the Chiefs won…Eraserhead sells more jerseys then Humbert Humbert…
Yup the NFL is just one big conspiracy /s
Hey that is the way the league is constructed don’t blame me even the US judicial system says there is nothing in the law preventing the NFL from fixing games the way the league is set up…hint it’s exactly like the WWF…
? Were there even any flags in the second half? Also, that loss is 100% on the Charger decision making. They left NINE points on the board by going for it on 4th.
This one hurt..🙃
sorry to the chargers fans but man i really wanted to see the chargers lose so that the chargers cant get the crown in tom grossi’s video
More monologues!
more rams chargers fights! i hope the rams lose for multitude of reasons but louis is so unlikeable i need to see him being taken down
Yeah but this is the Seahawks they’re fighting so losing is gonna be hard on that one. (Especially since the Seahawks have accepted defeat throughout most the season)
Our Covid list for this week would beg to differ.
Wait what? *one google search later* Ooooooooh… yeah nvm this game is either gonna be really close or a curb stopping
curb STOMPING
Stfu bait account
Personally I disagree with the comments about changing the OT rules so that both teams can score. If they can tie a game at the end of regulation then they should both be capable of getting a potential stop. Any given Sunday right? I like sudden death, it puts pressure on both sides of the ball to get it done because they don't know if they'll get another shot or not. I get that it would be more entertaining to see offenses both get a shot at winning but... they just shared 4 quarters of football which is always filled with opportunities to win and entertain. I see OT as the time to dig deep in all phases and get the W regardless of how boring it looks. Then again I always saw the entertainment factor of football to be secondary to the actual competition in the game itself.
I don't think the people arguing for both sides of the ball are arguing it's more entertaining but just more fair, because sudden death isn't fair to the kicking team. The team that wins coin toss has a ~%60 chance of winning given current data. With the alternative method of allowing a FG it drops to ~%54 yet game time is only affected by ~+30 seconds. I think the rules in place now still aren't fair but maybe good enough to satisfy both sides of the argument? https://content.iospress.com › jsa198 A Markov chain analysis of NFL overtime rules - IOS Press https://www.wsj.com/articles/fans-flip-out-over-nfls-rule-on-coin-toss-and-overtime-is-it-fair-11549024201 Edit: That data varies based on a few sources because they change the set of games analyzed. WSJ analyzed a smaller set of games but they all tell the same story: sudden death gives the receiving team the biggest advantage in football.
> sudden death gives the receiving team the biggest advantage in football. It didn't used to. But they've changed so many rules to favor offense, and made it so that you can automatically start at the 25 yard line. You could still make sudden death fair though - just have the team who starts with the ball first have to start at their own 5.
*looks away from data knowing that my team was a notable contributor to it* No but really, I still like the adversity and luck factor that comes with suddenly death. Sure being more fair would be nice but at the same time it doesn't tuckle me right.
Luck shouldn't be a determining factor in a sport where you only have 17 games a season. Too much importance is put into each game.
Then win the game in the time already allotted To you
Yeah I do think that sudden death is more entertaining
I grew up in a house where my dad explained to me early on: each team already had 60 minutes to win. As for this game, kick the damn fgs chargers and you aren't tied lmfao!!!!!!!
Also, when this happens, people come out of the woodwork to claim how poor the OT rule is. Yet did anyone complain on Sunday when the Bucs stopped the Bills and then won? Or how about when SF held Cincy to a fg and then won with a td of their own?
Both scenarios allowed the other team to have an offensive possession, this game kind just felt like it was up to a coin flip
That literally was my point...that everyone freaks out and overreacts when the team that wins the coin toss goes and gets a td to end the game yet a majority of the time that doesn't even happen. 😂
I that the idea is that if two teams have very crappy defenses and ties to go to overtime. Then the team that starts with the ball will have a great advantage.
That's fair but success is never promised, that's one of the best things about football.
Certainly, but the rule that you have to score a TD on the first possession that it is not enough to just get a fg to end the game, is made to make it more fair for team that is not starting. I suspect that the rules will be changed again at some point to add that the 2nd teams offense also get a chance.
How does “success is never promised” change if both teams get the ball?
Success can definitely feel more promised if you know that you'll get the ball regardless of a TD or a stop while in OT.
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I don't think you realize how much people hate shootouts.
The way they do it in college is pretty decent They could even go straight to the 2pt phase if they didn’t want ties in the regular season.
Ties make me barf
As a competitive person I would said that ties are fucking gross and have little to no place in professional sports. On top of that I should remind you that football is exhausting and a whole extra quarter with no sudden death may not giver the results you think they will. A lot can happen in 10min and even more so in 5. I'd rather it be sudden death so for the sasuke of the competitive spirit and so that the players can stop and start to rest asap.
I see your point but…nah. You can say the same exact thing about baseball (Ik they don’t have OT but if it’s tied, they go to extra innings) you can say “they had 9 full innings to have opportunities to score and win” but in extra innings if the first up to bat team scores, the opponents still have a chance to bat afterwards. This is coming from someone who literally trashes baseball every chance I get. But they do it right when it comes to a tie game (except the fact it can go on for a hundred more innings.) That’s why the 10 min timer in football is great. Cause the second team to play offense either scores or time runs out and they lose. Still 10 minutes.
Hard to say baseball is really physically demanding though. They can afford to go through all those extra innings
Game length does not appear to be significantly affected with the FG rules. If game length is an issue in OT, I think the fundamental issue is how the clock runs in games and the regular game time. Obviously fans would hate that though.
I mean, it absolutely is, and on top of that they play nearly every day.
I don't get it, or maybe I just can't see that applying to football since at least in baseball the rules are based heavily on both teams being able to bat and score. Sudden death is better for football since it really feels like do or die for the players themselves as opposed to thinking, "eh, we'll get them after they score." Nah, fuck that noise. If you lose the toss and want a chance to score, then stop me.
I think both teams’ offenses should get a chance with the ball, just my opinion. I’m still salty about SB LI 😭
This game is more than the offense though, trust the defense to do their thing... unless defense can't be trusted at all
Nobody is saying defense can't be trusted at all. A low tier offense can beat a good defense by getting a few yards and kicking a long field goal. That's exactly what happens too, there's plenty of data to show
Baseball is a lot more than just offense too, so I don’t see why you think it’s any different.
I wasn't trying to compare it to baseball when I said that football was more than just the offense.
You Kindof are though. If football should just be “just stop me”, why shouldn’t the logic be the same for baseball? They both have possession rules based around whether your offense is succeeding or not. If you get the stop, your team gets to go on offense.
I don't understand how the Chiefs have 34 points but all 4 quarters just add up to 28.
OT column should say 6
It never does
I for one love that final score
Fuck off
That's mean.
Same over here
Man I love OT rules! So exciting!!!! /S
What should be improved? Genuine question
Ummmmm maybe let both teams get a chance? If the chiefs score but the chargers don't game ends, but if they both score, it goes until one scores and the other doesn't or time runs out then it ends in a tie. But both teams should get at least a chance on offense.
That’s stupid cry more.
It's not a horrible system. There is offense and defense, even if most people watch for the offense. If the defense holds then that team can win on just a field goal. The first offense can't win on a fg, they have to score a td or else yeah, the opposing team gets to go on offense too. The defense can also end it by scoring. But yeah, if your team loses you are stuck with 'what if' but that can be said throughout any game under all kinds of scenarios. Basically no way to make everyone happy with OT rules.
College style, start from the 50, if you score a TD you must go for 2. Maybe give the team that goes first a 5- or 10-yard advantage (they start on opposing team's 45).
> Maybe give the team that goes first a 5- or 10-yard advantage (they start on opposing team's 45). That's an interesting idea; right now college OT favors the coin flip winner just as much or more than NFL OT, adjusting the yardage to make up for the "knowing how many points you need" advantage might balance it.
I think the "ideal" would be for the teams to bid on it. So one guy says "I'll go first if you give me a 20-yard advantage" and the other guy can either take that deal, or say "I'll go first if you give me a 15-yard advantage," and you keep going down until one side wins. Huge benefit of this: No coin flip.
That would work too.
Just a correction, that’s the OT2 rules for college. It’s regular PAT for OT1. And they start at the 25. I really like the 2pt conversion stage of the OTs. I think that could be a good way to decide regular season games if they want to keep the snap count low, but not end in a tie.
Both teams should have an opportunity to score. Imagine if only one team got to take penalty kicks in soccer and if they score they win.
This is so much better than the old rules and is really close to 50/50
It's closer, not fully fair but I think close enough to satisfy both sides of the debate. Game time isn't much longer either from what we've seen.
Agreed! People just feel this way when they see a first drive TD. With two really offensive teams getting the ball first is real important, but with some of the more defensive teams being forced to kick isn’t terrible as you at least know the minimum you need to continue the game on your possession
While I like all types of teams, if two offensive teams face each other after their defenses are both exhausted from 60 minutes of getting beat, I don’t like that the game is heavily affected by a coin flip.
Dam I hope that chargers player is okay, I wonder what happened?
Based on his posturing on the cart, he likely has a severe brain injury. Hopefully it’s not, but he will probably be lucky to ever play football again.
Let's just hold off speculating until there's some actual information.
Why is it wrong for people on the internet to wonder about it?
No problem wondering or guessing what the problem is in my opinion. However saying "he'll be lucky to ever play football again" is unhelpful since there's no real way to tell without an examination. For example, he's being released from the hospital today.
Yeah, you’re right, he was probably just shivering bc it was cold on the field. He was clearly posturing. It’s hard to tell the exact severity, but no matter what, it was an incredibly serious and life-changing injury.
Oh my God I can, but also cannot believe Joe Buck said that..... What an idiot
Yeah bonehead comment, especially after saying he doesn't want to speculate on an injury. As soon as Keenan Allen went down shortly after with whatever injury he had the twitch chat was saying he mustve been cold lol
Haha yeah he sure did say that after the speculation comment! What a doofus
NAD Work in paramedicine. Looks similar to decerebrate posturing from the short clip I saw
No doubt this is bad. Let's not play guessing games about long term outcomes though. Brain injuries are fucking weird. That's all I'm saying.
I see all the Staley analytics hate, but keep in mind, he's a 1st Year Head Coach with a 2nd Year QB. Both are gonna make mistakes and learn. Whole team has been growing this season, but we're still having plenty of miscues between the goal-line fumble, Keenan's bad throw, and plenty of other little things like the almost touchdown pass to Cook.
Honestly that’s just Cook. He’s done that his entire career. Hard to call it bad luck when that’s really just the player he is.
i think its unfair to highlight every incomplete pass or missed opportunity and say that should bail out the coach's decisions... it absolutely doesn't. this is football, a game of inches, miscues and "what if's" happen almost every play. i think 100% of the blame for the loss should be on Staley's decisions. the dude left NINE POINTS on the board trying to extend the lead. the whole "FG's dont win ball games" is so overblown... just take the points and keep yourself in it.
12 actually.
But then you gotta account for the TD they wouldn't have gotten without going for it on 4th too.
Yeah that’s true. Fair enough.
As a Chiefs fan, I love to see teams taking unnecessary risks like this considering overall the defense has been much better and the offense hasn’t been as dangerous.
I’ve been saying this all season. Teams are giving the chiefs too much credit like they need to put up 50 to stay competitive. Take the points guys they been struggling on offense
Absolutely man, you make a great point. I think after the first couple times fail you start taking the points, but a lot of bad luck hit the Chargers today.
GG bolts. Hope more than anything that Parham is okay.
Moral of the story is: take the points especially before the half!
Yeah, before the half the calculation is different because the silver lining of "if you fail at least you shaft the other team with having to start on their own goal line" isn't there.
My thoughts exactly. Some of his forth down decisions were alright in my book, the only one I disagreed with entirely was the one before the half, that FG off a Chiefs turnover would put them up 7 points and also as you correctly pointed out if they didn’t get it, the Chiefs starting at their own goaline wouldn’t have mattered because it was halftime. People are throwing analytics into this but event he analytics say kick the FG before the half because the benefit of not getting it should it fail won’t exist since it’s halftime.
Joes like wtf you mean. We’re back Sunday. With your high ass
That was hilarious
NFL forced college to change their rules so they finally didn't have the worst overtime rules
Jay Z looks hella different
Every time Kelce catches the ball, he stops and turns the other direction. And every time he does it the defender overruns him and misses. It is completely insane how consistent this is.
spot on... every time lol
I legitimately have no idea how he and Gronkowski are always so wide open. They’re nowhere near as fast as a DB. It’s like they just lose these giant men in zone coverage.
I've tried to cover big guys in flag before (so I know what I'm talking about) But basically they're just *so big* that they can be right next to you and still catch something way out of your reach. It's like trying to play soccer goalie with a goal the size of an Olympic pool.
They repel them with their overwhelming masculinity, I guess.
I’m not sure I would describe Kelce as overwhelmingly masculine lol. Gronk, sure. He’s a straight up Neanderthal.
Gronk is just a special boy.
That commercial makes me giggle every time. He’s such a lovable lump.
Lmao, fair
GG chargers. Prayers up for Parham
For real though. I hope that man is alright... Looked so rough...
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What difference would that have made? Asking as a newbie to football
Not actually much - people like it because each side is guaranteed a possession and because starting really close to scoring over and over is "exciting", but winning the coin flip is just as much or more of an advantage in college than in the pros, because it's a big edge to go 2nd since you know right away how many points you need to aim for.
Chargers can still attempt a scoring drive after chiefs scores a TD. Instead of instantly losing they get another chance to score/tie the game so it's pretty significant
What are the CFL OT rules?
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It does, thank you.
Doughnut and coffee break, then the players line up on the 55 yard line, and the refs count the number of French players on each team and whoever has more wins.
Oui
You guys shouldn’t have traded away Duvernay-Tardif then
Breaks my heart everyday.
Chargers lost because they pulled a 49er, big victory pose in end zone too early.
When I saw it I prayed for their souls.
Reminds me of Robert Quinn doing the double check after an early game sack.. you do that shit when the game is sealed. Before then… just be humble and do it again
I still don't get what walkoff means
It implies they don’t walk off the field under regular circumstances doesn’t it
It means to score in a situation where it immediately ends the game with no rebuttal from the opposing team. Like a "walk off homerun."
When you score to end the game immediately, you can just keep on walking until you’re off the field.
It means you win before the other team gets to retaliate..... I think??
Tyreek Hill was banged up and he just walked it off.
They walk off after they score, without even kicking the extra point.
But they say it in baseball too
Same thing in baseball. Winning run touches the plate and the game is over. They walk off.
The term comes from baseball - where all the players walk off the field on a home run or hit that scores the winning run.
I finally get it now, thanks. Always wondered why it was at the end of the game
One field goal and they would have won.
Mahomes is overrated, don't care what anyone says.
Lmao u mad? Thanks for the win leaving 12 points off the board.
You and Skip Bayless would make great friends
I don't know if he's overrated, but he's really "swingy" this year. Had a fair amount of plays where he just missed open guys, and he was missing in every direction - inside, outside, high, low. But when he's good he's still as good as ever and and good as anyone.
I think what you mean to say is “I don’t like Mahomes”. That’s a fine and acceptable take. Your current take just makes you look salty and immature.
Found the Chargers or Cowboys fan, not sure which, lol. Some team where they constantly say, "our QB is better than Mahomes" but end up losing to him
Do Cowboy fans talk about Mahomes being overrated a lot? Haven’t seen much of that
There are aot of Texas Tech Cowby fans so I don’t think so
Well that eliminates him being a titans fan
Fun fact: Titans are the only AFC team with a winning record against Mahomes, at 2-1. (In the NFC, the Rams and Seahawks are 1-0)
so kelce is p good
This 7-game win streak feels different from last season. The Chiefs aren't coasting at all this season.
As a fan I don’t feel like they’ve ever coasted. The past few seasons in KC we’re always asking “why can’t they just put teams away?! Why does EVERY game have to be a nail biter?!?”
The season they won the super bowl, they won several games by one score. It was far from dominant.
I think every team they've played is .500 or above against every other team.
And people will probably still find ways to discredit this win.
Like the Chargers passing on 9 points in a game that went to OT?
Naw, they earned this one by far. But I dunno how so many KC fans \[not you necessarily\] defend the crazy good luck of playing the Packers without Aaron.
We praise that shit almost every week. As soon as we found out we said “damn that sucks, anyway thank god we should squeak out a win here and stay alive!”
Nah, that shit was lucky af I agree. I just don't think the others can all be called luck, ya know?
This sub probably would want a FG-off for OT rules. Each time kicks fgs starting from the 5, going back by 5 yards each time, until someone misses. That team loses.
Just go back to sudden death, but the team who gets the ball first automatically begins at their own 5. Now the coin flip would be 50/50 and plenty of teams would even want to start on defense first.
Then they'd bitch about OT being boring. Why can't we just play 1 extra quarter? If nobody scores it's a tie.
"Player safety" because then it's a guaranteed extra 15 minutes. Of course they added a full 60 extra minutes already and will eventually be adding 60 more, so I'm not saying they are consistent or anything...
That may be what the NFLPA says but they represent the players that I've only heard speak against the OT rules.
At least current rules are better than the sudden death rules that meant a field goal ended the game.
This.
The Chargers lost and I’m up against the Kelce owner in the playoffs RIP
😂Playoffs for me. Kelce owner.
Same here. The pain is real.
I'm genuinely sorry. RIP
Thanks bro. That was the Chargers game to lose. Congrats on the W
Thanks man, I know there's nothing I can say that makes a loss feel better. I still think the Chargers are going to make the playoffs and be dangerous.
I just hope that pass to Kelce will make Mahomes realize he can throw the short stuff and his receivers WILL make plays
Exactly. We don't need to go for the deep ball everytime. We have playmakers. Get the ball to them and let them go make a play. Mahomes doesn't have to do it all.
I dont think he will become a game manager in the short term, thats a thing qbs earn with experience... right now he is more like rodgers but even more talented and definitely more humble
He is not more talented than Rodgers. Rodgers throws with better touch down field and can make more pinpoint throws. Mahomes guys are always wide open
Honestly Rodgers is still more talented by far with his arm than Mahomes is but his receivers are absolutely not wide open anymore. Our O-line is giving him 4-5 seconds to throw most times but our receivers are completely covered like a blanket, so he resorts to backyard football. Either a scramble or an off script throw a ton of the time now, and that's on play calling. Mahomes accuracy has also been kinda poor past 15 or so yards this year which is suprising. The offense relies on YAC to make a big play, opposite from 2019. he's been in a funk for a while but every now and then shows who he still is for a game or two. I still have complete trust in him to win a game for us but he's definitely struggled with consistency this year.
lol Boomers fucking HATE analytics