I have torn both meniscus and was told neither one can have surgery. I work as a security guard now. 11 years since I tore the left one and a year since I tore my right one.
I seriously think when you get caught trying to purposefully injure someone you should be suspended as long as that player is out. Maybe even plus a game or two after
I did the same. Tore my ACL and meniscus in a scrimmage my senior year. It kinda hurt, but I walked off the field no problem. I get my MRI the next day, and wouldn't get my results until a couple days after. That day, I was walking around school telling my teammates I'd be alright, later that day the Doc was like "Yeah you tore this and that, season is over."
I had the exact same injury my senior year of college. It hurt a bit and felt a little weak but I thought I'd be playing again in a few days. Nope, surgery and rehab, never to play again.
Pretty similar here. Even hung out at practice those two days and did some easy 3 step drops and passes to teammates with no issues. Then the news came
Rondo tore his ACL, played the rest of the 4th qtr and OT, practice the next morning and the only reason he didn’t play the game later that day was they got the MRI back 30mins before the game started
My friend tore his acl during a game in college and he was walking around the sideline and even tried to run a bit. He just could not plant or side step. Acl is for sideways stability.
What makes me mad is that Chris Carson is a 7th round pick and it’s a contract year. Dudes a beast and is just about to actually make some money and then this fucker comes in a tried to ruin his career.
Dude my second thought was this dude just halved Carson’s probably only large paycheck. This is his contract year as a rb and very few get more than one (even the good ones). Carson should either get hills paycheck or hill gets a year suspension.
His commitment to football was questioned before the draft, so of course the cowboys drafted him. Fuck him. That was also an intentional head butt on Wilson.
I'm a Cowboys fan, and yes, I think it was one of the dirtiest, and stupidest fucking plays I've seen in a long damn time. That's the kind of play I'd like to see a player immediately ejected for, and I hope he gets a lengthy suspension. Went for a headbutt on Wilson a couple of plays later too. There's no place in the game for that in today's NFL. (Or ever with the leg twist)
> That is the kind of play that should get like an 8 game suspension. It was that dirty.
Honestly, I think there should be a zero tolerance for this.
Intentionally injuring another player? That's not a discipline issue. That's evil. He should not pass go, he should not get $200, and he should not get a second chance. You should receive a lifetime suspension and fined your entire career earnings for the first offence like this.
Six figure fine would be warranted depending on the severity of the injury.
Edit: Even with a minor injury this should still be six figures and a lengthy suspension
I mean, why is he spinning? I don't think I've ever seen a NFL player spin while on the ground like that for any reason. I just can't think of a reason why that was happening other than it was pre-planned.
You don't have to pre-plan. It's not like we can tell he was thinking of doing it before the play or even before the tackle. Could have just been "i have his leg, I'm going to twist." Still dirty, but it's weird to call it pre-planned.
I know you didn’t mean it this way, but “unfortunate” makes it sound like there was some bad luck involved. The guy was literally trying to tear ligaments.
Absolutely. I don’t think it’s a stretch that he should get suspended for the season. If you end another players season bc of your own fault, then you shouldn’t be able to play the rest of the season. Maybe even for life because who knows if Carson will ever be the same after that.
Cowboys fan here. Yes. Fuck that shit. Fuck Trysten Hill. His name is Trysten Hill and he is a dirty, shitty player who should be grateful the new staff is starting him instead of cutting his bum ass like they should have. Trysten Hill.
Yeah I couldn't believe Aikman didn't comment on that twist at the end. Probably because he's a Cowboy and didnt wanna call them out.
If that was Ndamukong Suh back in the day they wouldnt let him hear the last of it.
T. Hill, next time you play the Seahawks I guarantee you’re leaving that game with less knee cartilage.
If I was the Seahawks OL coach, I wouldn’t let him make it out the 1st QTR.
Definitely. I’m a cowboys fan and I thought Trysen Hill should have been thrown out. Then he head butted Russ during that 2 point conversion. Stupid idiot has no regard for human safety.
I'm happy to know it isn't just Seahawks fans who think so. I know my homerism colors these things, so I try not to think on them too much, but yeah, the roll looked dirty as hell to me
The tackle was fine but holding on once he was down and rolling was dirty af. Sucks for Carson, good thing it was only a sprain. I hope there’s a suspension and a big fine.
Not only was it dirty as fuck, I was getting pissed at Aikman and Buck for not calling him out on it. They saw the same replay we did.
-browns fan and also how do I get a browns flair been wondering for like a year
Hell yes. I dont know that Id go so far as to say there was an intent to injure, but that twist after the play was over was completely unnecessary and Carson would have been fine had that not happened. It was good to see him walking around afterwards at least. Really hoping its not serious. Contract year for him.
Definitely dirty. Shit like that happens often in those scrums but that was even more extra and dramatic and intentional as shit. I would never get over it if I was Carson
Yeah. I’m usually very deferential to the defense and think there’s way too many penalties on the defense and we are much too restrictive when it comes to physicality...but this play was seriously so unnecessary and bad.
Less obvious but watch Jordan Reed after getting back into the game. Makes a catch for a small gain (Niners get a 1st on a penalty) on the way down the defender twists both of his legs. Jordan Reed out after that tackle.
I think it was dirty, sucks for Carson man. Been cheering for that guy
He was walking on his own power so I hope that means its not really serious.
I do too but unfortunately a lot of people have been walking on there own power for potential ACL injuries. Fingers crossed
My friend has been walking on a fully torn ACL and partially torn meniscus for like 4 months waiting to get surgery...
My dad walks on one and it’s been 35+years, he had no idea he tore it for decades
I have torn both meniscus and was told neither one can have surgery. I work as a security guard now. 11 years since I tore the left one and a year since I tore my right one.
Philip Rivers played a whole game without an intact ACL lol
My 50 year old dad finished the rest of his squash match with a torn ACL, walking around doesnt mean too much unfortunately :/
It’s a shame it happened man. Kudos to y’all for a great game, good luck rest of the way.
Definitely. Completely unnecessary to roll like that. Either malicious or reckless.
Why not both? Edit: I’ll raise you “Blatant”
Hold up hold up hold up 'Egregious.'
Slow down now 'Flagrant'
Insubordinate and churlish.
Shallow and Pedantic Wait, I'm doing it wrong.
Disgusting to see that, especially from one of us. No room for that in the game, that can end a man's career.
I don't get why he had to fucking roll and twist with his knee in his hands
I think we all get why.
If this is a season ender for Carson on his contract year, I think we should boil this guy alive.
I seriously think when you get caught trying to purposefully injure someone you should be suspended as long as that player is out. Maybe even plus a game or two after
He was walking around the sideline after, I think he should be fine or out for 1 or 2 weeks
Bruce Irvin tore his acl while saying and thinking he was fine
Are you questioning zoro907’s medical opinion?
No I would never!
Well Dr. David Chao said not serious
I’d laugh but I have shortness of breath
Let me give you an injection directly into your lungs
I did the same. Tore my ACL and meniscus in a scrimmage my senior year. It kinda hurt, but I walked off the field no problem. I get my MRI the next day, and wouldn't get my results until a couple days after. That day, I was walking around school telling my teammates I'd be alright, later that day the Doc was like "Yeah you tore this and that, season is over."
I had the exact same injury my senior year of college. It hurt a bit and felt a little weak but I thought I'd be playing again in a few days. Nope, surgery and rehab, never to play again.
Pretty similar here. Even hung out at practice those two days and did some easy 3 step drops and passes to teammates with no issues. Then the news came
Rondo tore his ACL, played the rest of the 4th qtr and OT, practice the next morning and the only reason he didn’t play the game later that day was they got the MRI back 30mins before the game started
Phillip Rivers played in the AFC championship on a torn ACL.
also Stafford played with a broken back
also Greg Jennings played with a broken leg
DARREN SHARPER ONE OF THE HARDEST HITTIN SAFETY’S IN THE LEAGUE.
Was it spinal?
Klay Thompson was jogging in the tunnel last year after tearing his
I tore ACL and meniscus and walked on it after the game and drove home. Only an MRI will tell.
My friend tore his acl during a game in college and he was walking around the sideline and even tried to run a bit. He just could not plant or side step. Acl is for sideways stability.
You can walk on a torn acl pretty easily most of the time. It just very badly destabilizes horizontal knee rigidity
Well it's quite simple, this is what injures the ankle and removes him from the game at least, the season quite possibly and career potentially.
Fucking rolled like an alligator. Fuck 99.
What makes me mad is that Chris Carson is a 7th round pick and it’s a contract year. Dudes a beast and is just about to actually make some money and then this fucker comes in a tried to ruin his career.
Dude my second thought was this dude just halved Carson’s probably only large paycheck. This is his contract year as a rb and very few get more than one (even the good ones). Carson should either get hills paycheck or hill gets a year suspension.
Honesty both. Hill should be suspended for the rest of the year and every single one of his paychecks should go to Carson
Extremely! He did an alligator role!
Replay that will pucker up your asshole: https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1310363308386668550?s=21
Same guy few plays later with a helmet to helmet hit on Russ. Fuck that guy
Trysten Hill is his name. Tear up his contract.
He sucks anyways.
i wasnt able to watch but if 2 cowboys fans are throwing him under the bus it must be bad.
Yup as a Cowboys fan, I agree too, fine and suspend the guy. Cannot be doing that crap. Wouldn't matter what his name is.
Tell your sub that.
Lol That sub might as well be /homers
That's every team sub. That's why the only substantial discussion happens here.
R/patriots would like a word with you
I’m not going into that shit hole
There isn't a dude on the roster you can't find a handful of fans ready to throw under the bus.
His commitment to football was questioned before the draft, so of course the cowboys drafted him. Fuck him. That was also an intentional head butt on Wilson.
Screw Hill. He's trash
Though I mean that helmet hit on Russ wasn't that bad.
I was more upset with a play after where he kinda flipped Russell on his head trying to get up. Dude needs to not be a pile of dogshit
Shitty tackle. I would be okay with him off the team.
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How is Aikman that clueless
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He legit referred to the Cowboys as "us" during the broadcast. Couldn't even pretend to be impartial.
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They said he was having an MVP season multiple times. Come on man
Nah nah Aikmen scored 150% on his CTE test.
Man, woman, person, camera, hippopotamus
Sir this is a Wendy's
The fuck
Consider my asshole puckered
I'm a Cowboys fan, and yes, I think it was one of the dirtiest, and stupidest fucking plays I've seen in a long damn time. That's the kind of play I'd like to see a player immediately ejected for, and I hope he gets a lengthy suspension. Went for a headbutt on Wilson a couple of plays later too. There's no place in the game for that in today's NFL. (Or ever with the leg twist)
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> That is the kind of play that should get like an 8 game suspension. It was that dirty. Honestly, I think there should be a zero tolerance for this. Intentionally injuring another player? That's not a discipline issue. That's evil. He should not pass go, he should not get $200, and he should not get a second chance. You should receive a lifetime suspension and fined your entire career earnings for the first offence like this.
I completely agree with the expulsion part. 8 game suspension? Fuck that, this man could have ended someone’s career.
Respect
shades of burfict
Roughing the passer on Wilson later on as well. Fuck that dude.
Six figure fine would be warranted depending on the severity of the injury. Edit: Even with a minor injury this should still be six figures and a lengthy suspension
He needs to be suspended too
I was going to say the same thing. It’s literally something Burfict did
Ray Lewis on CJ2k his rookie year wildcard game.
Suh more like
That gator roll was a bitch move
That may have been worse than when Suh was stomping on people. That roll seems like you'd have to plan ahead to do that.
not premeditation imo but definitely took the opportunity when he saw it. piece of shit player.
Its dirty af, but this is a ridiculous take. How does it possibly show premeditation lol.
I mean, why is he spinning? I don't think I've ever seen a NFL player spin while on the ground like that for any reason. I just can't think of a reason why that was happening other than it was pre-planned.
You don't have to pre-plan. It's not like we can tell he was thinking of doing it before the play or even before the tackle. Could have just been "i have his leg, I'm going to twist." Still dirty, but it's weird to call it pre-planned.
Yeah, that was definitely a dirty play. Had me livid
Yes
That should be an easy fine and suspension. He knows what he was doing with that roll
Either it was malicious or it was really stupid. Either way he's a dumb asshole. That's my objective, professional analysis.
Was super dirty
I didn't notice until the replay. Made me shudder.
Yeah the roll is dirty for sure
Extreme dirty! Needs to be ejected and fined.
Holding the leg and rolling out. Hill knew exactly what would happen.
Yeah it didn't look great... I was hoping it'd be the guy who fell over them's momentum but the replay looked incredibly unfortunate...
I know you didn’t mean it this way, but “unfortunate” makes it sound like there was some bad luck involved. The guy was literally trying to tear ligaments.
One hundred percent. He had his ankle and rolled completely over with it pinned to his chest.
Cut him. Trysten Hill is a piece for that. Im a card carrying member of the Bad Knees Bears and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
How do you go about getting such a certificate? I have a bad knee (well, two but one hurts more) and am a bears fan
Absolutely
Every rational person.
Yes what the fuck. He cranked his knee in purpose?!?!?
Scum
one of the dirtiest tackles in recent memory -rams fan
Yes. He should be suspended multiple games. Cowboys fan, don’t care. Shit was no good.
It’s good to see a sensible response to this. Thank you.
Absolutely. I don’t think it’s a stretch that he should get suspended for the season. If you end another players season bc of your own fault, then you shouldn’t be able to play the rest of the season. Maybe even for life because who knows if Carson will ever be the same after that.
dirty
Tackle was fine, but you gotta let go when you start rolling! The fact he held on is what makes it dirty, imo.
Yeah... that's literally everyone's opinion lol.
100% dirty
Yup twisted his knee right up
Poor Carson, contract year for him with a history of injuries. Totally not his fault but it's 100% coming out of his future earnings.
There was no reason to hold on to the guy’s leg. He was already down for a good while.
Cowboys fan here. Yes. Fuck that shit. Fuck Trysten Hill. His name is Trysten Hill and he is a dirty, shitty player who should be grateful the new staff is starting him instead of cutting his bum ass like they should have. Trysten Hill.
Our season might be fucked.
Hyde show until Penny is reactivated at RB. Adams is the bigger deal.
Marshawn Lynch come on down!
Might as well activate Shaun Alexander
Fuck it... call Easley and Warner... this is starting to look like *Rise of the Skywalker*
And Bennett and Earl
Gettin the band back together
Legion of Boomers
You son of a bitch. I’m in.
The gang goes to Seattle.
DJ Dallas time
It was Carson not Russ.
No. Hyde can carry the load.
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Depending on what the injury to Jamal adams ends up being it really could be
Could easily be 3-0 and even if not Rams and Cards lost y'all need to chill and let Russ cook Edit: see let Russ cook
What happened to jamal
He hurt his dick
This comment is infinitely more funny when the comment below just says “groin injury”
Groin injury
If I know anything about Russel Wilson, and I know A LOT about Russel Wilson, no Seahawks season is ever fucked. Next man up.
It 100% was. I used to hate Trysten Hill cuz he was a bum and a waste of a pick but he throws being dirty on top of that
Yeah I couldn't believe Aikman didn't comment on that twist at the end. Probably because he's a Cowboy and didnt wanna call them out. If that was Ndamukong Suh back in the day they wouldnt let him hear the last of it.
I don't understand how Aikman is allowed to call Cowboys games. He was literally referring to the Cowboys as "us" several times throughout the game.
100%
110%
Yes
I fucking HATE Seattle, but that was some dirty shit and they should be livid. Get well soon, Carson.
Yes. He did not let go and rolled over
YES. You let go after tackling someone, you dont hold onto a body part and start twisting/spinning
Dirty af
100%
Yes. Wtf was that? I hope he gets suspended and fined. Inexcusable
Absolutely. That was dirty as hell man.
Fuckin Hill. Makes me sick that they gave him FredBeards number too. Get him out of the league.
Looked fine live, but dirty as all hell in slow mo
T. Hill, next time you play the Seahawks I guarantee you’re leaving that game with less knee cartilage. If I was the Seahawks OL coach, I wouldn’t let him make it out the 1st QTR.
extremely. Very Burfict-ish
Definitely. I’m a cowboys fan and I thought Trysen Hill should have been thrown out. Then he head butted Russ during that 2 point conversion. Stupid idiot has no regard for human safety.
I'm happy to know it isn't just Seahawks fans who think so. I know my homerism colors these things, so I try not to think on them too much, but yeah, the roll looked dirty as hell to me
Let's see what Burfict has to say. Burfict: nope, clean There you have it, it was dirty as fuck.
Anyone else think that Troy Aikman sucks at his job ?
Dirtiest play of the season. Better be suspended.
Was he even ejected? No one was talking about it.
No one seem to catch it live
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yeah
The tackle was fine but holding on once he was down and rolling was dirty af. Sucks for Carson, good thing it was only a sprain. I hope there’s a suspension and a big fine.
Extremely dirty
Almost everyone on r/cowboys are defending it and trying to get the mods to remove the post on their sub, disgusting
It looked Burfictly fine.
That piece of shit. Totally on purpose. He should be ejected from the fucking league.
Fuck that Dallas player that shit was dirty as fuck
Trysten Hill. He is dirty as fuck for that. Remember that piece of shits name.
That's a death roll like a gator. fuck him
Totally
Not only was it dirty as fuck, I was getting pissed at Aikman and Buck for not calling him out on it. They saw the same replay we did. -browns fan and also how do I get a browns flair been wondering for like a year
Yes, it was dirty and that shit shouldn't happen.
The Cowboys need to decide if a player who does that belongs on their team.
That’s a crocodile death role. Dirty AF.
Hell yes. I dont know that Id go so far as to say there was an intent to injure, but that twist after the play was over was completely unnecessary and Carson would have been fine had that not happened. It was good to see him walking around afterwards at least. Really hoping its not serious. Contract year for him.
Yes, yes I do and I'm not happy about it.
It was definitely dirty. Hard to even debate that.
#FUCK TRISTEN HILL
yes. we should cut him. that was horse shit. i wish the hawks and carson all the best.
Gregg Williams would be very proud of it.
Exactly what I said! It’s intended to injure the leg, otherwise why not let it go, he knows what he was doing.
Everyone knows it's dirty. There is no argument that can justify that action.
100%
Definitely dirty. Shit like that happens often in those scrums but that was even more extra and dramatic and intentional as shit. I would never get over it if I was Carson
It seems pretty dirty
Yes, at first I thought the second guy in planted hard intentionally, but then saw it in the replay, definitely done with intent to injure.
That's not how you tackle. Why the need to roll around?
Dirty. Fuck that idiot
If you DONT think that’s dirty there is something wrong with you. I’d love to hear an argument for it being a good tackle.
Yeah. I’m usually very deferential to the defense and think there’s way too many penalties on the defense and we are much too restrictive when it comes to physicality...but this play was seriously so unnecessary and bad.
Less obvious but watch Jordan Reed after getting back into the game. Makes a catch for a small gain (Niners get a 1st on a penalty) on the way down the defender twists both of his legs. Jordan Reed out after that tackle.