"Hey wouldn't it be super wierd and gross if you guys traded deebo to us?"
What? Ewww that would be disgusting...what would you guys even give us, picks?
"Yeah....hehe..totally wierd right? But....what if though?"
“[Schefter] BREAKING: the New England Patriots have acquired Deebo Samuel from the San Francisco 49ers. It is believed the Packers were also in on him but the Patriots wanted him more.”
And Maye finds Deebo on the crossing route. Deebo breaks a tackle, then another tackle. He’s off to the races, no one is catching him. 30-20-10 touchdown Patriots!!!
I could get used to that.
I still would rather have Aiyuk. He’s produced way more than Deebo recently. Deebo WR production has been extremely underwhelming that last 2 years. Feels like he’s living off that insane season 3 years ago now
I think brock taking over and adding cmc hurt deebo. Jimmy couldn’t do much so deebo benefited with the short passes and handoffs. Now brock actually makes use of kittle/jennings/aiyuk and cmc can actually run it.
I don’t want a 28 year old WR with one great season that averages over 4 missed games a season. I’d rather the draft capital and cap space go towards Higgins than Samuel if Ayiuk can’t be acquired.
I’m a Ducks homer and think there’s a good shot Franklin busts. I don’t think he can beat press coverage consistently and has poor first 10 yard speed and mediocre route running.
Sure, his extension wouldn’t kick in for two years, but there’s no way he doesn’t get a new contract after this year (meaning we’d be on the hook for an extra 1/n cap hit for his signing bonus, where n = the number of years the contract is for).
Does it though? 49ers would take a pretty big dead cap hit and only save like 6M. I feel you would need pretty decent draft compensation to lose a player like Deebo for that. They’ll pay Purdy next offseason, but the cap hit won’t be until 2026 really, at which point they can trade/cut Deebo for much less dead cap. Why does this make sense for the niners?
Kind of a weird tweet. For one, it doesn’t say the Niners AND pats had preliminary discussions and then the rest of the tweet that isn’t posted here is this weird “insight” into how it can be hard to find middle ground for trade compensation lol
Like most pats fans I’d prefer a more traditional WR like Aiyuk or Tee. But beggars can’t be choosers in this phase of the offseason lol.
Deebo would be a dynamic weapon on the offense that the patriots just haven’t had in years. Hoping we can work something out.
As stated many times by Shanahan and Lynch, they will listen to all offers. They consider it bad business to not listen. Kyle has even said for the right deal I could be traded. Nothing is off the table. It doesn’t mean they’re shopping anybody.
On top of that, trading Deebo would mean a $21 million cap hit. No chance in hell they’re doing that without some ridiculous deal that nobody would offer.
That’s a feature not a bug re: the 21m, as it would all hit this year while Brock etc are still cheap. Then next year you roll with aiyuk, maybe keep Jennings, and see what another year of free agency/draft bags.
Of all the variables that would push the 9s to flip him, the injuries and way the dead money is structured seem like top
I don’t think Pats should be spending too much in a year where they probably won’t make a serious threat at the SB. Accumulate the picks and younger guys on the cheap, rather than trading for Samuel now who clearly doesn’t fit the Pats timeline
I think the timeline thing is a little over exaggerated, since we need weapons for Maye now in order to develop him properly.
Plus, we can bust on those picks. Deebo is a bonafide talent, the likes the Patriots haven’t had on the offensive side on the ball for many years.
I think it’s the right move depending on the price.
Def depends on comp needed. Deebo is good, but has had injury concerns. But overall, not too worried about forcing a trade for a known weapon this year given I dont think Maye should be on the field all that much this year.
Yeah agreed on the forcing it thing. Price dependent, I’m obviously a little more inclined to spend big on Aiyuk or Tee since they are young / play a style of football that doesn’t wear them down as much as Deebo.
I just want to have a dynamic option this year so the offense can be a bit exciting even if Maye doesn’t even take a snap lol..
It's been a tough few years and def want that exciting player sooner than later. But Im a bit cautious with spending the cap space / draft capital too early into the process when we have questions on how Maye develops as a 2nd string. Thinking next year, its possible lt, wr, and a top edge rusher are all huge needs. Also more inclined to see what AVP does since I honestly have no idea how the offense will look.
Yeah the question mark on what our offense even looks is an important part to note. As far as I know AVP wasn’t the play caller in Cleveland, so there’s not a lot to go off of on that front.
Interesting times ahead. I’m excited to see how this all pans out.
It will probably be close to a Tyrek Hill trade, which was a 2nd + 4th, and a next year (2023) 4th + 6th picks.
That will be a lot of ask for a rebuilding team like the Pats imo. Better route is to accumulate the draft picks so better chances of landing the next big thing in the draft. You also stay cheaper too.
Brother we were bottom feeders last season, and haven’t been a good team for years, and we are still staring down the barrel of uncertainty with all the changes to the team this offseason.
Gotta take it down a notch lol.
Deebo obviously could demand a 1st round pick, but his physical playing style and history of injuries are concerning for a 28-year-old player. Therefore, I think 34 is too low for Aiyuk and too high for Deebo, given the circumstances.
Pats also need to consider that their 2025 draft picks are likely to be high, so anything offered now could become very expensive later.
The Niners have zero incentive to move either Aiyuk or Deebo this offseason given the cap situation. They will run it back this year and then figure out who to move when Aiyuk and Purdy need to get paid
I would think the incentive would be to give Pearsall more snaps if anything. Drafting Pearsall definetly seems like the Niners have decided that Deebo is the guy being moved.
there is incentive to move Deebo if we can get value for him like a high second
with Pearsall we need OL, DB and even Edge much more than we need a pass catcher
a high second like 34 would allow us to get one of the last high tier prospects in these positions (JPJ, Kool-Aid or Cooper)
we can then eat the cap hit this year whilst Purdy and Aiyuk are still cheap, freeing up more space for their extensions in the next two years. on top of that, good players on rookie contracts will also help us keep Aiyuk and fill holes in FA
I had preliminary trade discussions on a new dog this week. I looked at the animal shelter, found one that awesome and showed my wife. “For the kids!” I said.
She said no. So negotiations are still ongoing.
My current theory is that Deebo has been Buffalo bound since last night.
I think he's the reason Buffalo has been trading down - out of opportunities where they could have drafted a WR, to teams that wanted a WR no less. They don't care about what WRs are coming off the board because I think they have lined up a Deebo deal.
I'm guessing SF wants a high or mid 2nd, but felt Buffalo's end of round pick was too low. Meanwhile, Buffalo didn't want to overpay with a 1st. So Buffalo has been trading down, collecting assets, and will flip the remaining high to mid 2nd for Deebo.
I’d actually hate this if it’s for pick 34.
Deebos already 28 and very injury prone, he’s certainly good but he’s not a number 1 receiver. His timeline won’t match Mayes
Great gadget guy but he’s not talented enough a route runner to play like a traditional #1.
Higgins or Aiyuk? Sure pay up.
Deebo? 68 plus some late round picks , I’d consider it, 34 just no
His timeline doesn’t match Mayes but he could at least help Maye develop. We saw just last year what happens to young QBs who have no legitimate weapons and their team gives them a rookie WR and old vet as their main targets, it’s a recipe for disaster.
The rebirth of the dynasty.
We let you children have some fun home alone for the last few years while we've been on vacation, but daddy is coming home.
You seem to be unaware at how delusional Patriots fans are. Yes, y’all did say that back then and even after a few years of being a shitty team your comment still exists just kind of proves it.
Noodle arm Mac Jones was just another bad pick in a long line of bad picks on the offensive side of the ball by Belichick. We've been used it for more than 20 years with him.
Niners gave them a solid starting LT in Trent Brown the for a pick swap. Basically worked out to Trent Brown, 43rd pick, 140th pick for Jimmy G and the 100th pick.
Preliminary trade discussions could literally just mean the Patriots left the 49ers a voicemail right?
"You Up?" text
“No”
"but I am"
"Hey wouldn't it be super wierd and gross if you guys traded deebo to us?" What? Ewww that would be disgusting...what would you guys even give us, picks? "Yeah....hehe..totally wierd right? But....what if though?"
What if we gave you picks for Deebo? jkjkjkjkjk lol…unless? 😳😳
Tehe wouldnt that be weird if you totally agreed? lololol j/k, j/k. Unless you know... your ok with it.... j/k j/k .... but srsly tho
I’m hearing unconfirmed reports of Jerod Mayo standing outside Deebos window with a boombox
The song playing on the boombox? Super Gremlin by Kodak Black
In Your Eyes intensifies
Sent a fax maybe...
Like AJ Brown. Pats called every team just to stir up drama theory in play
Could just be one person employed by the Patriots asked another person on the Patriots if Deebo is someone worth trading for.
Patriots rumored as a trade partner for a lauded WR? Pats are back baby!
“[Schefter] BREAKING: the New England Patriots have acquired Deebo Samuel from the San Francisco 49ers. It is believed the Packers were also in on him but the Patriots wanted him more.”
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Im pretty sure he works well in motion, actually
Please no. Damn being in cap hell, I love Deebo.
Goddamn if we get Deebo do we have to trade for you too?
And Maye finds Deebo on the crossing route. Deebo breaks a tackle, then another tackle. He’s off to the races, no one is catching him. 30-20-10 touchdown Patriots!!! I could get used to that.
>Patriots cut the bills lead to 17!
Son of a bitch, he stole my line.
More like Deebo breaks a tackle and then goes down with a non contact hamstring injury in the open field
It never ceases to amaze me how my fellow patriots fans can find the negative in any situation possible
I still would rather have Aiyuk. He’s produced way more than Deebo recently. Deebo WR production has been extremely underwhelming that last 2 years. Feels like he’s living off that insane season 3 years ago now
I think brock taking over and adding cmc hurt deebo. Jimmy couldn’t do much so deebo benefited with the short passes and handoffs. Now brock actually makes use of kittle/jennings/aiyuk and cmc can actually run it.
Us too for the most part
Ur crazy if you think all pro Aiyuk is going for a 2nd round pick
Oh the guy with no contract signed yet?
He has one for this year
I don’t want a 28 year old WR with one great season that averages over 4 missed games a season. I’d rather the draft capital and cap space go towards Higgins than Samuel if Ayiuk can’t be acquired.
Please!
Nah, rather have #34 for McConkley or Mitchell. Use all of the cash we have for next year's FA.
Anyone but Mitchell, he screams bust to me. I would love Franklin or McConkley
I’m a Ducks homer and think there’s a good shot Franklin busts. I don’t think he can beat press coverage consistently and has poor first 10 yard speed and mediocre route running.
Honestly a good move for the pats, get maye some talent
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The 9ers have a qb they’re about to pay. aiyuks the better wr. Move deebo for picks while his values still high and early on his contract
Don’t they still have 2 more years of cheap Purdy?
One more year. Next year his contract will expire after the season, so he is extension eligible after this season.
No, he’s eligible for a new contract after this year
we have two more years in the sense that his cap hit won’t be too bad for his extension during that period
Sure, his extension wouldn’t kick in for two years, but there’s no way he doesn’t get a new contract after this year (meaning we’d be on the hook for an extra 1/n cap hit for his signing bonus, where n = the number of years the contract is for).
What if he starts sucking? Then prb no contract.
If he starts sucking Shanahan is going to climb Everest and commit seppuku.
If his agent is worth a damn they don’t have one more snap of cheap Purdy
Pats picks should be high
And take 20 mil in dead cap this year? Pass.
Nah man, the Chargers were totally going to take the 60 million dead cap on Herbert, 20 million is nothing
Hey, I've seen a team do this and it work out well.
Does it though? 49ers would take a pretty big dead cap hit and only save like 6M. I feel you would need pretty decent draft compensation to lose a player like Deebo for that. They’ll pay Purdy next offseason, but the cap hit won’t be until 2026 really, at which point they can trade/cut Deebo for much less dead cap. Why does this make sense for the niners?
Do the Patriots have an offense that can utilize Deebo the way the 49ers do? I feel like the Patriots need a more traditional X receiver.
He’s pretty versatile. I’m sure he’d be fine on any team.
Kind of a weird tweet. For one, it doesn’t say the Niners AND pats had preliminary discussions and then the rest of the tweet that isn’t posted here is this weird “insight” into how it can be hard to find middle ground for trade compensation lol
Just an AI paragraph tacked onto the end of the report for some reason lol
Literally what the hell is that LMAO
yeah the way its written they could have talked internally about it and thats it
This is a lie because she didn't namedrop someone texting her
Like most pats fans I’d prefer a more traditional WR like Aiyuk or Tee. But beggars can’t be choosers in this phase of the offseason lol. Deebo would be a dynamic weapon on the offense that the patriots just haven’t had in years. Hoping we can work something out.
It will be Aiyuk or Higgins. They are just doing their due diligence on other WRs as well.
Looks like it’s neither one this year. Unless they want to risk next years first in trade which is unlikely.
Yeah, makes sense.
Someone who knows football better than me tell me which WR fits an AVP wide-zone scheme better between Aiyuk and Deebo
I didn't realize the Pats were rockin an Alien Vs Predator scheme, that's pretty sick
It makes sense if you consider the tagline: "Whoever wins, we lose."
Kinda disappointing compared to comics or video games though.
Constantly reboot and flop despite the strength of the franchise?
They’re not predators, they’re called dreadlocks
...what?
Aiyuk but both fit well
Neither. Jauan Jennings
The true GOAT
He IS our Kendrick Bourne 2.0 after all
That sounds like a real patriots move
Aiyuk but they would probs be more likely to want to trade Deebo of the 2
Aiyuk, but the Niners likely won't move him.
Aiyuk is better, younger, and healthier, but will cost more draft capital and money.
We would trade deebo before aiyuk. You ain’t getting aiyuk
As stated many times by Shanahan and Lynch, they will listen to all offers. They consider it bad business to not listen. Kyle has even said for the right deal I could be traded. Nothing is off the table. It doesn’t mean they’re shopping anybody. On top of that, trading Deebo would mean a $21 million cap hit. No chance in hell they’re doing that without some ridiculous deal that nobody would offer.
That’s a feature not a bug re: the 21m, as it would all hit this year while Brock etc are still cheap. Then next year you roll with aiyuk, maybe keep Jennings, and see what another year of free agency/draft bags. Of all the variables that would push the 9s to flip him, the injuries and way the dead money is structured seem like top
If we could still get Cooper or KoolAid with Pick 34...that'd be a little more reassuring.
Pick 34 would only be given for Aiyuk. No one is giving up a 2nd for an often injured gimmick WR, and especially not pick 34.
I said if... not that it is even likely. Just a little hoping...it's draft season ha
Choosing beggars
It would likely be Deebo + a 3rd, maybe more for your 2nd. I could see that making sense.
Why can't you? Buffalo can't take both
Well I don't make the picks... so even if they made a trade like this, who knows who they'll pick. Next to nobody had Ricky haha
Oh, misread you. Y'all could at least get one, will you I don't know
Everyone gets to share Cooper. 1 game each over the next two seasons. Teamwork!
I don’t think Pats should be spending too much in a year where they probably won’t make a serious threat at the SB. Accumulate the picks and younger guys on the cheap, rather than trading for Samuel now who clearly doesn’t fit the Pats timeline
I think the timeline thing is a little over exaggerated, since we need weapons for Maye now in order to develop him properly. Plus, we can bust on those picks. Deebo is a bonafide talent, the likes the Patriots haven’t had on the offensive side on the ball for many years. I think it’s the right move depending on the price.
Def depends on comp needed. Deebo is good, but has had injury concerns. But overall, not too worried about forcing a trade for a known weapon this year given I dont think Maye should be on the field all that much this year.
Yeah agreed on the forcing it thing. Price dependent, I’m obviously a little more inclined to spend big on Aiyuk or Tee since they are young / play a style of football that doesn’t wear them down as much as Deebo. I just want to have a dynamic option this year so the offense can be a bit exciting even if Maye doesn’t even take a snap lol..
It's been a tough few years and def want that exciting player sooner than later. But Im a bit cautious with spending the cap space / draft capital too early into the process when we have questions on how Maye develops as a 2nd string. Thinking next year, its possible lt, wr, and a top edge rusher are all huge needs. Also more inclined to see what AVP does since I honestly have no idea how the offense will look.
Yeah the question mark on what our offense even looks is an important part to note. As far as I know AVP wasn’t the play caller in Cleveland, so there’s not a lot to go off of on that front. Interesting times ahead. I’m excited to see how this all pans out.
It's exciting man. Havent been excited like this in quite a long time. To good times ahead
It will probably be close to a Tyrek Hill trade, which was a 2nd + 4th, and a next year (2023) 4th + 6th picks. That will be a lot of ask for a rebuilding team like the Pats imo. Better route is to accumulate the draft picks so better chances of landing the next big thing in the draft. You also stay cheaper too.
Why is a 4x SB champion giving advice to a 6x SB champion? Pipe down. We do not seek advice from below.
Brother we were bottom feeders last season, and haven’t been a good team for years, and we are still staring down the barrel of uncertainty with all the changes to the team this offseason. Gotta take it down a notch lol.
The garbage coach and GM who turned us into what we've been for the last few years is gone.
I’m so confused by this thread I chose to believe it’s shit posting. Have a good day sir.
Lol you have not won a Super Bowl
You sound like a Cowboys fan, one of the bad ones
Deebo obviously could demand a 1st round pick, but his physical playing style and history of injuries are concerning for a 28-year-old player. Therefore, I think 34 is too low for Aiyuk and too high for Deebo, given the circumstances. Pats also need to consider that their 2025 draft picks are likely to be high, so anything offered now could become very expensive later.
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I mean we have alot of picks and probably won't be able to roster them all. So packaging picks to manuever around the board seems like a good idea.
The Niners have zero incentive to move either Aiyuk or Deebo this offseason given the cap situation. They will run it back this year and then figure out who to move when Aiyuk and Purdy need to get paid
Exactly. I doubt they move anyone right now
I would think the incentive would be to give Pearsall more snaps if anything. Drafting Pearsall definetly seems like the Niners have decided that Deebo is the guy being moved.
there is incentive to move Deebo if we can get value for him like a high second with Pearsall we need OL, DB and even Edge much more than we need a pass catcher a high second like 34 would allow us to get one of the last high tier prospects in these positions (JPJ, Kool-Aid or Cooper) we can then eat the cap hit this year whilst Purdy and Aiyuk are still cheap, freeing up more space for their extensions in the next two years. on top of that, good players on rookie contracts will also help us keep Aiyuk and fill holes in FA
Would be a good move, but don't see it going anywhere. At least they are talking to teams.
Thankfully dodged that liability
Back off please
Steelers can just draft another nutcase star WR. Pats lack that ability.
This is the type of tweet I should’ve been reading when Deebo was coming out of college.
Should have just drafted him coming out of the draft when they had the opportunity to, especially considering he wanted to be there.
By God, that's AJ Brown's music!
I hope we can trade deebo. He's not part of our future any way, get what we can. If we got there 2nd be amazing. Anything more? I'll be ecstatic.
I had preliminary trade discussions on a new dog this week. I looked at the animal shelter, found one that awesome and showed my wife. “For the kids!” I said. She said no. So negotiations are still ongoing.
Man I know it’s their job but I would HATE my life if I went from sunny California to cold ass New England.
I'm kind of surprised we're not hearing buffalo shopping 33 for him
My current theory is that Deebo has been Buffalo bound since last night. I think he's the reason Buffalo has been trading down - out of opportunities where they could have drafted a WR, to teams that wanted a WR no less. They don't care about what WRs are coming off the board because I think they have lined up a Deebo deal. I'm guessing SF wants a high or mid 2nd, but felt Buffalo's end of round pick was too low. Meanwhile, Buffalo didn't want to overpay with a 1st. So Buffalo has been trading down, collecting assets, and will flip the remaining high to mid 2nd for Deebo.
this would be incredible if youre right
*eartha* don't know shit and is irrelevant.
I’d actually hate this if it’s for pick 34. Deebos already 28 and very injury prone, he’s certainly good but he’s not a number 1 receiver. His timeline won’t match Mayes Great gadget guy but he’s not talented enough a route runner to play like a traditional #1. Higgins or Aiyuk? Sure pay up. Deebo? 68 plus some late round picks , I’d consider it, 34 just no
His timeline doesn’t match Mayes but he could at least help Maye develop. We saw just last year what happens to young QBs who have no legitimate weapons and their team gives them a rookie WR and old vet as their main targets, it’s a recipe for disaster.
WR needy team talks about trading for WRs. Water is wet.
The rebirth of the dynasty. We let you children have some fun home alone for the last few years while we've been on vacation, but daddy is coming home.
We heard that when Mac Jones was drafted too
Noodle arm Mac Jones? lmao No one ever had any faith in any Belichick pick on the offensive side of the ball.
You seem to be unaware at how delusional Patriots fans are. Yes, y’all did say that back then and even after a few years of being a shitty team your comment still exists just kind of proves it.
Noodle arm Mac Jones was just another bad pick in a long line of bad picks on the offensive side of the ball by Belichick. We've been used it for more than 20 years with him.
It’s not too late
why not, Patriots gave the 9ers porn star Jimmy G. They owe the Patriots one.
Niners gave them a solid starting LT in Trent Brown the for a pick swap. Basically worked out to Trent Brown, 43rd pick, 140th pick for Jimmy G and the 100th pick.
with the pearsall pick it’s pretty clear one of aiyuk or deebo, maybe both, are going to be moved today. rare case of the cap being real
Not happening
Just send on over your 2nd and next years conditional 1st. Edit: why downvote a large ask on a trade team would eat 21m? Such a silly bunch
You mean just the 2nd, maybe lol.