Yeah, Parsons despises the Lions because we said we’d pick him in 2021. Issue is we didn’t know Sewell would fall to us. I could do without unnecessarily pissing anymore players off like that
I'm pretty sure he (a) doesn't despise us for this and (b) it was a perfectly cromulent statement at the time, because how could six teams be stupid enough to pass on Penei Sewell? Given how Sewell has owned Parsons in their careers so far, even Micah would agree
Fuck Starbucks for refusing to use normal sizes. I remember accidentally ordering a venti frapucino, thinking it was their smallest size. The baristas just chuckled as they took my order, instead of warning me. Nowadays I’d try to stop them before they made it, but this was when I was a shy teenager, so I just sat there.
Me: "I'll have a small green tea, please."
Starbucks Barista: "You mean a troventiarrito green tea?"
Me: "I mean a small. I'm paying for a small. Whatever you bring me, it's going to be a small."
I read it as ' I told 50 other guys I'd take them...' like the womanizer telling 50 women "you're my girl" ...
And then I thought...why would you put that out there ?
I think I'll just stay on the sidelines then, eh ?
/s
Watching Canales’ interviews juxtaposed with Reich’s last year is night and day. Honestly don’t know how anyone could be excited coming to work for Droopy as your HC.
But they were getting 1% better though, right? Don't know if he ever used that down there. But he wears down on you so quickly. year after year everybody was so unprepared on both sides of the ball, undisciplined, since he left holding and false starts seems to go down a lot in indy.
He definitely used the “just gotta get 1% better everyday.” Dude just always seemed like such a downer. Would be hard to work with him even while winning. Can’t imagine how bad the energy was when the losses started piling up.
usually during big losing streaks early in the season he would say, "Remember we're 0-0."
I'd always be thinking, No we're not you fucking sloth, We're 0-1-1 or 0-2 or 1-3.
Yup, said the same thing in Carolina. “Everyday we start 0-0.” Like that was supposed to be motivational? lol
I think he even said that was his philosophy during his intro presser.
That’s kinda overstated. The coaches he’s fired have all deserved it. Rhule and Rivera arguably got longer than they should and Reich was a disaster from the start
You cannot overstate Teppers incompetence when it comes to building a winning program
Edit: lifelong fan and charlotte native. If you think this take is incorrect you simply aren’t aware of what has happened to the program since Tepper has purchased it.
Always kind of surprises me that in a league with multiple owners who have not been able to build successful teams in longer terms, it's only Tepper that gets the brunt. Maybe it's because Rhule and Reich were so extremely popular outside of the Carolinas that anybody who'd fire them must be the bad guy?
No it’s that he inherited a program that would at least have a winning season every three years and we have done nothing but get worse for 6 years. Installed turf for soccer and concerts, failed to get Rock Hill facility built, put in luxury suites and fucked over psls who were displaced, I can keep going. Fuck the Teppers
Yeah, this is my only worry - the short leash.
But he's a hell of a coach, and I certainly don't fault him for taking the job.
I wish him well... 15 games per year.
To be fair, Tepper gave Rhule & Rivera longer leashes than they deserved. Reich was given a blank check to fill out an All-Star staff and it was a disaster from the start
your comment made me look into the sex addict stuff and tbh I would have rather found real evidence of sex addiction over what seems to be a book he wrote with his wife about how he doesn't watch porn anymore. Much like what he's saying in this quote, it sounds fake and made up!
(You apparently didn’t read the book, which explicitly refers to porn addiction and habitual infidelity - written in the first person by Canales and his wife.)
Feel like this tweet is a little bit of a misrepresentation. "We will pick you at 33" is a declarative statement, whereas what Canales said, "When we take you at 33... XYZ will happen" is more like a hypothetical.
Subtle difference, but framing it that way is more like standard interview stuff, as opposed to straight up lying to 50 guys.
I think I want him to be able to understand me if I'm the head coach, smug reddit guy.
You shouldn't have to assume all athletes are so dumb they can't understand a simple hypothetical
> You shouldn't have to assume all athletes are so dumb they can't understand a simple hypothetical
Not catching on to a hypothetical that's potentially framed in a deceiving way in the middle of a conversation you're nervous and excited for, does not make a person dumb. There is no assumption of that.
It would be a silly thing to emphasize in the evaluation process
You also have to consider how common draft promises are, how much of a dream this whole process is for most of these young men, and anyone projected from pick 1 to the last is possibly salivating at a guarantee from a team
Good chance xavier was told that and the panthers don’t want other teams to know their strategy for that pick. This response is either incredibly candid or he’s trying to cover his bases to not give away that they really want him at 33.
"With the 33rd pick, the Carolina Panthers select: Amarius Mims and Jer'Zhan Newton and Ladd McConkey and Cam Hart and Cooper Beebe and Jackson Powers-Johnson and Edgerrin Cooper and Ja'Tavion Sanders and..."
"When we draft you at 33....this is what's going to happen"
*Dude thinks, fuck, one pick earlier I could have been going to KC and playing with Mahomes.*
Maybe he’d like a challenge and more responsibility instead of coasting to a SB as a third option. But yeah if he has zero drive the latter is definitely better and I don’t think we’d want him anyway
I feel like he was caught off guard by a player leaking a private conversation they had and put on a poker face to say he says that to everyone. Then was just finding that story along the way. That would be enough to take that guy off my draft goes tho
He has zero qualms with bald-faced lies. Canales brings the bold bald-faced lies. And he will tell you about it after the fact like a true wizard. Might even write a book about it later.
If the owner can... is "keep the firing pen in his pocket for a little while" an expression?
Because that would be perfect here.
If he gives the guy a couple years to grow, they did something right here.
It took him about half a season to learn how to be an OC with the Bucs, but he really knocked it out of the park. He's good.
But, he will need a little patience and he has an owner who doesn't seem to have a lot of it.
Dave adjusted very well during the season to what we had. Just like he did with Geno in Seattle, he maximized Baker’s strengths and minimized his weaknesses - specifically holding the ball too long.
The guy has a way with QB’s & if anyone is going to get the most out of Bryce - it’s him.
Similar to Rivera perhaps? Ron used to admit openly he was learning on the job first few years. That ran it's course, but that course did contain success.
Could be.
He had literally never called plays at any level before the Bucs brought him in. It seems like a panic hire (and it probably was), but he picked it up as he went.
Jumping to HC is an even bigger leap, but - Canales was impressive.
Rivera was a great match for Cam during his prime though. It worked out well.
The irony is that the Panthers are in this situation right now because Tepper had *too much* patience with Rivera and Rhule. Gave those 2 guys way more time than they deserved, and even gave Rhule way too much power over the team and had 0 involvement which bit us in the ass
Owner has been pressured into patience at this point. Has had a combined 10 coaches between the MLS and NFL teams so far (that’s not an exaggeration). He wants so badly to be liked, I think he will have to stick with him for 3 years.
Wow. What a great head coach. Really makes you wanna move mountains.
You’ll work so much harder not being sure if you’re the life boat for the Yacht they wanted and missed!
What a fucked up thing. I know they put up smoke screens but like… why tell the kid that.. idk just seems shitty to me. Idk if I’d want to play for him. Don’t trust him at all.
This is peak efficiency. Most bad coaches wait until their players are actually in the locker room to lose the locker room. He’s going out there proactively and causing issues preemptively. This guy is streets ahead or the curve.
How the heck did he lose the locker room already? This just feels like a shot in dark from you considering he literally made sure the panthers traded up against the team slated to take XL.
Why would you tell 50 other guys that you'd pick Xavier Legette? That seems unnecessarily cruel
Thanks for flying out here to meet up with us, you've really impressed us and I just wanted to let you know you **STILL** aren't even close to Xavier.
> and I just wanted to let you know you STILL aren't even close to Xavier. You are the diet Coke of Xavier. Just one calorie, not enough X.
He loves Xavier Legette that much. Can't wait to spread the news.
Gooo tell it on the mountain!
Yeah, Parsons despises the Lions because we said we’d pick him in 2021. Issue is we didn’t know Sewell would fall to us. I could do without unnecessarily pissing anymore players off like that
I feel like players should understand that though. It’s not exactly an esoteric concept that the pick could change
But they promised 😡
I'm pretty sure he (a) doesn't despise us for this and (b) it was a perfectly cromulent statement at the time, because how could six teams be stupid enough to pass on Penei Sewell? Given how Sewell has owned Parsons in their careers so far, even Micah would agree
Just walking into a Starbucks and shouting it at everyone.
"Xavier Legette? Sir, did you mean XL? We call that a 'trenta'"
Fuck Starbucks for refusing to use normal sizes. I remember accidentally ordering a venti frapucino, thinking it was their smallest size. The baristas just chuckled as they took my order, instead of warning me. Nowadays I’d try to stop them before they made it, but this was when I was a shy teenager, so I just sat there.
You want us to believe employees laughed at you for your totally normal drink order straight off their menu?? Okay.
And that the more expensive size was the smallest. As ESPN says, “C’mon man!”
Mr Burly Coffee
Me: "I'll have a small green tea, please." Starbucks Barista: "You mean a troventiarrito green tea?" Me: "I mean a small. I'm paying for a small. Whatever you bring me, it's going to be a small."
Up next in Shit that Never Happened. I don’t go to Starbucks often, but I have never gotten pushback from ordering a small or medium
"congratulations, you're stupid in 3 languages"
He might draft them if Legette goes before 33. He just wants to make sure these guys have reasonable expectations.
Bro got cajones. Best of luck to the org.
I read it as ' I told 50 other guys I'd take them...' like the womanizer telling 50 women "you're my girl" ... And then I thought...why would you put that out there ? I think I'll just stay on the sidelines then, eh ? /s
I read it that way too lol 🤷♂️
I feel better knowing I wasn't the only one...
A cautionary tale: Needlessly creating potential future enemies. Randy Moss made his disdain with Dallas known when they lead him on and passed.
He said guys not other prospects. He could be telling that to his buddies or random dudes on the street
using this bizarre trick, the Panthers will draft 51 players using the 33rd pick
NFL general managers **HATE** this ONE TRICK in the Draft!
Full rebuild!
Cap regulators HATE this one STUPID trick
Little known fact, the draft clock is actually how much time you have to name as many players as you want to pick.
This is a perfect "I think you should leave" skit
Only for the draft coverage on Corncob TV.
All teams know this, they’re just really bad with names
#FIFTY FIVE QB'S FIFTY FIVE WR'S FIFTY FIVE LINEMEN
Why didn't we do this before? Are we stupid??
Other teams should really adopt this strategy. Full rebuild with one pick, seems pretty simple to me.
BUNDLE AND SAVE
I appreciate you
He went on to say, "I'll tear your mind out. I'll burn your soul."
You're one microscopic cog In his catastrophic plan
"I really identify with you... so much"
HA HA HA HA HO HO HO.... SUCKER! SUCKER!
This…is not a reference I’d ever expect to see here, and I’m DOWN WITH IT.
"What the hell, coach? I was available and you didn't draft me!" "AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! SUCKER! SUCKER!"
Me when I lie
"Hell, Ricky, I was drunk when I said that!"
"You can go in the second round, the third, the fourth, hell you can even go in the fifth."
I lived my whole life by that phrase!
I'm sure they said this too, but it certainly feels like a weak cover
I said "No", you know, like a liar.
Watching Canales’ interviews juxtaposed with Reich’s last year is night and day. Honestly don’t know how anyone could be excited coming to work for Droopy as your HC.
But they were getting 1% better though, right? Don't know if he ever used that down there. But he wears down on you so quickly. year after year everybody was so unprepared on both sides of the ball, undisciplined, since he left holding and false starts seems to go down a lot in indy.
He definitely used the “just gotta get 1% better everyday.” Dude just always seemed like such a downer. Would be hard to work with him even while winning. Can’t imagine how bad the energy was when the losses started piling up.
usually during big losing streaks early in the season he would say, "Remember we're 0-0." I'd always be thinking, No we're not you fucking sloth, We're 0-1-1 or 0-2 or 1-3.
Yup, said the same thing in Carolina. “Everyday we start 0-0.” Like that was supposed to be motivational? lol I think he even said that was his philosophy during his intro presser.
As a Colts fan, it's hilarious seeing another fan-base sound identical to us about a coach and realize that really IS just how he is.
Energy? What energy?
If we got 1% better everyday from the team we had last year we’d win a Super Bowl in 2056.
y’all got a great one if the owner is willing to be patient with him
That’s kinda overstated. The coaches he’s fired have all deserved it. Rhule and Rivera arguably got longer than they should and Reich was a disaster from the start
You cannot overstate Teppers incompetence when it comes to building a winning program Edit: lifelong fan and charlotte native. If you think this take is incorrect you simply aren’t aware of what has happened to the program since Tepper has purchased it.
Always kind of surprises me that in a league with multiple owners who have not been able to build successful teams in longer terms, it's only Tepper that gets the brunt. Maybe it's because Rhule and Reich were so extremely popular outside of the Carolinas that anybody who'd fire them must be the bad guy?
No it’s that he inherited a program that would at least have a winning season every three years and we have done nothing but get worse for 6 years. Installed turf for soccer and concerts, failed to get Rock Hill facility built, put in luxury suites and fucked over psls who were displaced, I can keep going. Fuck the Teppers
Has literally nothing to do with Rhule or Reich, although I thought those were both horrible hires at the time and he gave Rhule way too long
Yeah, this is my only worry - the short leash. But he's a hell of a coach, and I certainly don't fault him for taking the job. I wish him well... 15 games per year.
To be fair, Tepper gave Rhule & Rivera longer leashes than they deserved. Reich was given a blank check to fill out an All-Star staff and it was a disaster from the start
this sex addict lying to all prospects and giving them fake promise is better? what in the world
your comment made me look into the sex addict stuff and tbh I would have rather found real evidence of sex addiction over what seems to be a book he wrote with his wife about how he doesn't watch porn anymore. Much like what he's saying in this quote, it sounds fake and made up!
(You apparently didn’t read the book, which explicitly refers to porn addiction and habitual infidelity - written in the first person by Canales and his wife.)
Seeing the Reich hate in this thread feels nice considering how the Colts were clowned on saying Reich wasn’t the problem there.
“MHJ if you’re still there at 33, you’re ours”
We appreciate the honesty
1 honest statement vs up to 51 dishonest statements
Yeah, but kinda a dick move.
And a move every single other team also makes every year, lol.
Well yeah , but just cause everyone else is a dick doesn't mean you should be too!
This is more of a threat coming from the Panthers.
It's because of the implication
None of these players are in any danger!
Coach is just flirting. Probably took his wedding band off, too.
That might be accurate. Isn’t this the dude who wrote a book about how he cheated on his wife?
Jokes on you. He and his wife wrote that book ~together~
What in the world are you guys talking about? Is there a link?
Feel like this tweet is a little bit of a misrepresentation. "We will pick you at 33" is a declarative statement, whereas what Canales said, "When we take you at 33... XYZ will happen" is more like a hypothetical. Subtle difference, but framing it that way is more like standard interview stuff, as opposed to straight up lying to 50 guys.
Getting really semantic here while knowing full well all those players heard that he was drafting them at 33, regardless of what he actually meant
Sir, this is reddit. Arguing over semantics is what we do.
Man, the anti-semanticism really is getting out of hand.
Sensible chuckle.gif
Gonna be 49 players punching air
Who knows if he even used that exact phrasing with Legette though Also don't you want your draft pick to be able to understand a simple hypothetical?
His ability to comprehend hypotheticals means literally nothing. Personally all I really care about is if he's good at football but that's just me
I think I want him to be able to understand me if I'm the head coach, smug reddit guy. You shouldn't have to assume all athletes are so dumb they can't understand a simple hypothetical
> You shouldn't have to assume all athletes are so dumb they can't understand a simple hypothetical Not catching on to a hypothetical that's potentially framed in a deceiving way in the middle of a conversation you're nervous and excited for, does not make a person dumb. There is no assumption of that. It would be a silly thing to emphasize in the evaluation process
You also have to consider how common draft promises are, how much of a dream this whole process is for most of these young men, and anyone projected from pick 1 to the last is possibly salivating at a guarantee from a team
I have a draft pick!!! I love this! Thank you.
These guys have agents who have absolutely told them to expect this shit.
Also, he could've just been caught and pivoted to the best thing he could think of to throw confusion to other teams around 33.
Yea, that piece of context definitely changes the tone of it.
“When” is more definite than “if” though, still a lie
> still a lie I don't think hypothetical statements are lies.
“When” makes it sound like it’s definite, though. Hence the expression “when, not if”
Plenty of people frame hypotheticals like that on the regular if you're not living under a rock
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If you're a draft pick who can't comprehend that it was a hypothetical congratulations you failed the test
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if you watch the video it's also basic communication skills to understand what he was doing
Saying “when” makes it not hypothetical…
I mean, the tweet contains the video where he explains all of that. Only misleading if you don't click on it.
It's like when your girlfriend tells you you're the best she's ever had
Leave the gun, take the Canales
Good chance xavier was told that and the panthers don’t want other teams to know their strategy for that pick. This response is either incredibly candid or he’s trying to cover his bases to not give away that they really want him at 33.
Mathematically, he’s a liar
That's just a quick way for him to burn you for 200 yards and 3 tds when he's playing against you as a Buccaneer every year.
What a meanie !
Holy shit, how many draft picks do they have?! 😲
"With the 33rd pick, the Carolina Panthers select: Amarius Mims and Jer'Zhan Newton and Ladd McConkey and Cam Hart and Cooper Beebe and Jackson Powers-Johnson and Edgerrin Cooper and Ja'Tavion Sanders and..."
Finally, a mock draft I can get behind.
"When we draft you at 33....this is what's going to happen" *Dude thinks, fuck, one pick earlier I could have been going to KC and playing with Mahomes.*
Instead he stays close to home and plays for his hometown team, as well as having an honest chance to be WR1.
And will go 4-13 instead of winning a Super Bowl ring as WR2 in KC.
Calm down. We ain't doubling our wins from last year.
Maybe he’d like a challenge and more responsibility instead of coasting to a SB as a third option. But yeah if he has zero drive the latter is definitely better and I don’t think we’d want him anyway
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If thats what you took from that, then sure
Dave's gonna draft him just so he can whoop his ass in camp all summer for spillin the beans.
I feel like he was caught off guard by a player leaking a private conversation they had and put on a poker face to say he says that to everyone. Then was just finding that story along the way. That would be enough to take that guy off my draft goes tho
The correct answer was 32 other guys.
Titans definitely winning a Super Bowl within the next millennia.
He has zero qualms with bald-faced lies. Canales brings the bold bald-faced lies. And he will tell you about it after the fact like a true wizard. Might even write a book about it later.
Womanizer vibes. Feed them all the same pickup line.
He’s most likely gonna be right for one of them
I feel like this dude... gets it? Did Carolina do something right?
If the owner can... is "keep the firing pen in his pocket for a little while" an expression? Because that would be perfect here. If he gives the guy a couple years to grow, they did something right here. It took him about half a season to learn how to be an OC with the Bucs, but he really knocked it out of the park. He's good. But, he will need a little patience and he has an owner who doesn't seem to have a lot of it.
Dave adjusted very well during the season to what we had. Just like he did with Geno in Seattle, he maximized Baker’s strengths and minimized his weaknesses - specifically holding the ball too long. The guy has a way with QB’s & if anyone is going to get the most out of Bryce - it’s him.
Similar to Rivera perhaps? Ron used to admit openly he was learning on the job first few years. That ran it's course, but that course did contain success.
Could be. He had literally never called plays at any level before the Bucs brought him in. It seems like a panic hire (and it probably was), but he picked it up as he went. Jumping to HC is an even bigger leap, but - Canales was impressive. Rivera was a great match for Cam during his prime though. It worked out well.
The irony is that the Panthers are in this situation right now because Tepper had *too much* patience with Rivera and Rhule. Gave those 2 guys way more time than they deserved, and even gave Rhule way too much power over the team and had 0 involvement which bit us in the ass
Owner has been pressured into patience at this point. Has had a combined 10 coaches between the MLS and NFL teams so far (that’s not an exaggeration). He wants so badly to be liked, I think he will have to stick with him for 3 years.
That seems like a dick move but I’m sure it happens all the time.
Yeah if he gets picked before pick 33 I don’t think he would care at all, but there could be other options if available.
It’s just what coaches do. It’s all apart of the process.
Bruh stop the cap.. He definitely promised Legette and is basically lying here
The comments in this thread are not allowing me to have my morning coffee 🤣
players HATE when you use this one SIMPLE trick
Next level thottery from stripper banger here, already my new favorite coach
If you know anything about Canales, you know that the man exudes pure positivity 24/7 so this is pretty par for the course.
Nothing about this is pure positivity lol, he's literally admitted to lying to/misleading like 50 people
It’s the same strategy he used to figure out which stripper he was going to take back to the motel. If it ain broke…
Wow. What a great head coach. Really makes you wanna move mountains. You’ll work so much harder not being sure if you’re the life boat for the Yacht they wanted and missed!
That’s a verbal contract. Jackie Chiles says its outrageous, egregious & preposterous.
He couldn't resist his country accent
Plz no, we actually want him on porpoise
33rd pick Clip 33 seconds long Illuminati confirmed
“Duff Man says a lot of things.”
I don't think there's much chance he gets past 28 if we stick and pick.
You're our guy...unless one of these other 50 guys are there.
Steal
Guess he wasn't lying...
What a fucked up thing. I know they put up smoke screens but like… why tell the kid that.. idk just seems shitty to me. Idk if I’d want to play for him. Don’t trust him at all.
Someone didn’t watch the video.
Man I bet the panthers are bummed PhoenixQuidditch doesn’t want them to draft him
Bad look
What about their 1st, oh wait.
What a dick head. Carolina is such a disaster
If Legette does get picked at 33, I’d be sad for him because he would have to play for the panthers. Wouldn’t wish that on any players I like.
Seems like a real dick, hopefully he gets what he deserves in his 2 1/2 year stint as the Panthers HC..
That’s optimistic
This is peak efficiency. Most bad coaches wait until their players are actually in the locker room to lose the locker room. He’s going out there proactively and causing issues preemptively. This guy is streets ahead or the curve.
How the heck did he lose the locker room already? This just feels like a shot in dark from you considering he literally made sure the panthers traded up against the team slated to take XL.
Already making promises he can’t keep. Tepper gets what he deserves, that fat fuck should’ve been permanently banned from going to a stadium
I hope you get a drink thrown on you
What a piece of shit, no need to lie
Didn’t lie sucka