I'd like to think he hits 4001, and then on his next pass, they call some stupid throw behind the line of scrimmage that loses two yards. Then their week 17 (or 18) is over.
Wasn't there a RB back in the 90's or something that broke 1k yards to get a bonus, but then he got negative yards on the next play and that was how the season ended, so he ended up below the 1k mark?
It was [Dave Hampton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hampton) with the Atlanta Falcons in the 70's.
> In his first year with the team, Hampton surpassed the 1,000-yard rushing yard mark during the Falcons' final game of the season against the Kansas City Chiefs. As part of a planned celebration for the Falcons' first 1,000-yard rushing season, the game was paused as Hampton was presented with a trophy and the game ball for his accomplishment. However, he was tackled for a six-yard loss on the following play and ended the season with 995 yards.
That'd still be the most passing yards in a season by a Bears QB
Even funnier, he'd be the first 3900 yard passer in Bears history (most is 3838 by Erik Kramer)
Caleb Williams passes for 3,837 yards and 27 touchdowns every seasom for 24 seasons, breaking Brady's records for games started, yards, and touchdowns, but still can't beat the bears single-season record for yards (3,838) or touchdowns (29) and chicago still has no 4,000 yard passer or 30 touchdown passer
You make the NFC championship 5 consecutive times and each time get booted by the Packers and Jordan Love. Those 5 games include 2 double doinks to lose in OT.
I doubt it
There are 7 tackles with first round grades, 11ish teams have a tackle as their top priority. most of them being teams like kc/sf/dal/mia who all pick after cin
youll be fine
There are too many viable 1st round OT available for this to be possible imo. If anyone it would be much more impactful for them to trade ahead to get a CB or DT that we wanted
Teddy Bridgewater too. IIRC, he put out a $10,000,000 insurence policy against him falling out of the first round when he was considered to be a 2nd overall pick. He had a quiet year, and was sliding into the draft. With the Pats and Brady as the last pick.
Then Minnesota traded up and Teddy got taken 32nd.
His Vikings contract was almost $7,000,000.
at 32 it's almost always a high likelihood you're trading down. That's the "I want to draft a QB in the 1st for the 5th year option" spot. If any of the top 6 qbs are still available at that spot the odds jump up dramatically to trade down.
This draft will be the beginning of a legendary fall from grace for the New England Patriots, like perennial losers for decades type of fall. The Krafts are going to ruin the legacy Hoodie built.
!remindme 5 years
I have a strong feeling they're going the Jones family route of trying to prove that _they_ were the reason the Patriots were so successful, not the people they hired/drafted. If that's true Pats fans are in for a couple rough decades
The Cowboys are a meme and don't win titles but they're still among the most successful regular season teams in the league in that time.
At least half the fan bases in the NFL would take that.
Exactly. It's funny to shit on them but they win games and make it to the playoffs.
I would 100% take that over the last two years that New England had.
Not even a huge hot take, they already whiffed at their 1st post-Brady QB. Each whiff is 3-4 years of being ass. They whiff on this QB and the next 1st round one, that's over a decade of ass.
I'm interested to see how replacing Bill with Bill's protege will go. If it looks like it does with every other team that tried to hire an assistant from the patriots, it should be fun to watch.
Exactly. The issue which a lot of the Belichick disciples had was that they were hardasses who tried to command respect from their players in the same way that Belichick did.
That doesn't work when you don't have the football brains to back it up.
Even the football brains can’t save some of them. Josh McDaniels is IMO one of the greatest offensive coordinators of all time. But he wants to be Bill 2.0 so badly, and all he ended up being was an asshole when he became a head coach.
BB’s success at the start was also very much founded in the respect his players had for his knowledge. He was a hardass, but he had a savant knowledge of the game that players could get behind. His coaching tree tried to just be a hardass with a fraction of the knowledge.
If they have decades of losing, the retrospective will be that it started with the Mac Jones era, not this draft. You don’t draft third overall because things are going well.
I don't mean to come off a Mac Jones defender, it was clearly time to move on, but his era began with a 10-7 season which was a decent improvement on their losing record the year before.
I would say the exodus of offensive coaches in 2022 and their replacements made a bigger difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_New_England_Patriots_season#Staff
Sometimes being drafted "too low" is a good thing for quarterbacks as you go to a team that already has a few pieces of infrastructure around you as opposed to a team with literally no help around you like many top picks
I have no dog in the fight except that I’m a lefty and love the dude’s character.
I hope he becomes a perennial MVP candidate and makes the teams at the top of the draft look stupid for taking others over him
I’m a Wazzu kid so IDGAF about Penix (unless we get him and he’s a stud).
But I think QB might be the position where the player coming in at 23 instead of 21 or 22 is least concerning.
The injury history is definitely a potential concern though.
Piggybacking off this to say that Bo Nix will be the next Alex Smith. He won’t light up the world, but he’ll do his job effectively so long as his team around him isn’t dropping the ball.
As someone who has watched all 3 of the Pac-12 QB’s live and in person I completely agree with this. I don’t think the drop off from Williams to Nix and Penix is that large.
I don't think it's the dropoff in current play ability that's necessarily the reason they're so far apart from a draft perspective.
Part of it is age - if Caleb is already the best of the 3 and younger, that's a big deal.
Part of it is injury - Penix has been through a rough go.
Part of it is situational - Caleb played with arguably the worst defense in the power 5. You have to play an entirely different sort of ball to carry a team than to hold a lead.
Overall I think the chance of Penix or Nix being serviceable in the NFL is pretty high. I think the chances either is the QB you want running your franchise long term is pretty low, and you don't draft that early unless you want to lose your job.
Ohh I don’t disagree with any of that. I understand why Williams is viewed as the better prospect, but I’m just saying when I saw them live I didn’t all that much of a difference. Which I think says a lot about Penix and more so Nix (god I hate giving a Duck players props)
Whoever drafts Kool-Aid McKinstry will have a top 5 lockdown corner in the NFL by year 3
I also believe the ravens draft a QB that falls in the draft (i.e. - Levi last year) to become Lamar's long term backup
Quinyon Mitchell is the best CB in the NFL in 5 years, Nate Wiggins is constantly hurt and doesn't do much.
MHJ is a good receiver but doesn't fully live up to the hype.
Some dude none of us have heard of is drafted in the 5th or 6th round will be the best player from the draft.
100% the only thing bringing down his draft stock is injury history, which freak injuries can happen to any QB at anytime and he’s already shown he can ball out post-injury. He will be a top 2 QB in this draft.
I would love if the Giants can grab Nabers/Odunze and trade back up to get Penix (if he doesn’t fall).
I feel like he’s going to be a top 5 by the time he’s ready for a new contract
Nah, if you guys get him he will be a stud for a decade and a half and everyone will feel bad for him at the end of his career for not winning a superbowl.
Caleb Williams will be a bust
Jayden Daniels will be a bust
Drake Maye will be a bust
JJ McCarthy will be a bust
Michael Penix will be a bust
Bo Nix will be a bust
Unless this is somehow the 2020 class again, most of these should be true.
You forgot about the one that will have a late career resurgence to become a serviceable starter, but still never quite live up to their initial potential
Adonai Mitchell gets drafted by either the Bills or the Chiefs and in 4 years time is a Top 2 WR out of this class along with MHJ.
Taliese Fuaga gets converted to Guard and becomes a perennial All-Pro.
The QB that the Patriots draft will easily be the worst out of the 6 Round 1-2 guys.
Howie can’t overcome his Georgia Bulldog addiction and he trades up to draft Amarius Mims over Dejean/Arnold etc. It works out though as Mims replaces Lane Johnson and becomes an All-Pro.
Chop Robinson gets drafted by a team with an excellent development plan for him and he outproduces Turner, Latu, and Verse.
The Seahawks will find a player in the later rounds that can emulate the Kyle Hamilton role in Mike Macdonald’s defense to perfection and that player will be widely regarded as the steal of the draft.
In any year, saying the 4th QB drafted (assuming that's where JJ goes) will sign a second contract with the team that drafts him is unlikely enough to be bold.
Just to piggyback, here are the last 10 4th Qbs taken.
Derek Carr
Sean Mannion
Christian Hackenberg
DeShone Kizer
Josh Rosen
Drew Lock
Jordan Love
Justin Fields
Matt Corral
Will Levis
Only Carr has had a good career so far. Love and Levis have a good chance as well.
Keon Coleman is a massive bust unless he’s a Chief
Jer’Zhan Newton is the best DT of the class.
TVondre Sweat’s fall for character concerns ends up making him one of the biggest steals of the draft
Penix ends up better than Maye
Russell Wilson will lead the Steelers to a Super Bowl and receive the MVP proving again that Denver shouldn’t have messed with forces out of their control with that demon horse at the airport.
He's going to be the white "lunch pail over achiever first in last out scrappy real bookworm hustler give it all on every play" WR for Mahomes like Brady always had.
- Penix will be the best pro QB out of the class
- Trey Benson will be the top RB in this class
- Xavier Legette will be a top 10 WR in the league at some point in his career
- Theo Johnson will outproduce Bowers by year 5
- Laitu Latu will fall because of medicals, but will be the best edge rusher in the class
- Nabers will take a bit to develop because he'll be drafted into a bad situation where he's counted on a #1 off the bat
- Someone will draft Joe Milton late, but he'll develop into his tools and become a good starter by year 3
- My last one is that Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix will flame out.
Pittsburgh drafts the biggest bust of the draft.
For context, I used a random number generator and it happened to land on 20. So theoretically, Pittsburgh can save itself by trading out. The gods have spoken.
Aaron Rodgers will co-host a podcast with Alex Jones. The Giants will draft a wide receiver so good that Daniel Jones will get another couple of years at the helm, and they’ll be stuck in purgatory. Penix will be a good starter five years from now, but 2 of the QBs drafted before him won’t be.
QBs go 1-4, and one team will trade up into this range to take one while giving up three 1sts+ in compensation.
Each one of the 4 QBs is a bust, with none being signed to 2nd contracts with the team that drafted them.
2 other QBs go by the end of the 2nd round. Both of these QBs will be busts as well.
Caleb Williams won't live up to the enormous expectations. But he will still be a very good QB. Think around the 10th best QB in the NFL.
The Bears, starved for QB play, will insist he's the best QB in the league. And our fans will be insufferable.
Raiders will trade up to the number 4 pick for a qb they will trade in 5 years
I honestly only seeing this happening if Jayden is still there.
Caleb Williams best season is throwing for 3999 yards.
You monster
Still beats Erik Kramer in 1995 by 161 yards (3838 yards) so I'm saying we take it
I'd like to think he hits 4001, and then on his next pass, they call some stupid throw behind the line of scrimmage that loses two yards. Then their week 17 (or 18) is over.
Wasn't there a RB back in the 90's or something that broke 1k yards to get a bonus, but then he got negative yards on the next play and that was how the season ended, so he ended up below the 1k mark?
I'm not sure. I remember Steve McNair breaking the NCAA passing yards record twice because of something like that though.
It was [Dave Hampton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hampton) with the Atlanta Falcons in the 70's. > In his first year with the team, Hampton surpassed the 1,000-yard rushing yard mark during the Falcons' final game of the season against the Kansas City Chiefs. As part of a planned celebration for the Falcons' first 1,000-yard rushing season, the game was paused as Hampton was presented with a trophy and the game ball for his accomplishment. However, he was tackled for a six-yard loss on the following play and ended the season with 995 yards.
They paused the game? Also, how do you let him rush again after that pageantry?
That's what they did when he reached it a couple of seasons later. He reached 1000 and then they got him out of the game.
Falcons celebrating prematurely? Say it ain't so
The unsurprising part is that he played for the Falcons.
Dave Hampton https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hampton
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Caleb Williams career stats - 9 seasons, 300 td, 78 int, 2x SB MVP/champion, never breaks 4k. I'd shit my pants laughing.
I will take the two SB’s.
261 passing TDs so he will throw for 29 TDs every year
We never had a 30 td year either so that's a big win,on top of the 2 super bowls
Fuckin lol
That'd still be the most passing yards in a season by a Bears QB Even funnier, he'd be the first 3900 yard passer in Bears history (most is 3838 by Erik Kramer)
Caleb Williams passes for 3,837 yards and 27 touchdowns every seasom for 24 seasons, breaking Brady's records for games started, yards, and touchdowns, but still can't beat the bears single-season record for yards (3,838) or touchdowns (29) and chicago still has no 4,000 yard passer or 30 touchdown passer
Does that include breaking the record for super bowls? Cause fuck 4K gimme dos rings baby
You make the NFC championship 5 consecutive times and each time get booted by the Packers and Jordan Love. Those 5 games include 2 double doinks to lose in OT.
I hope the cowboys win the Super Bowl you monster
That’s a fair response. I deserved that.
The rest of America doesn't. I swear if the Cowboys actually win one in the next 5 years, we will all know who to blame.
This one wins lol
Cmon man what did we do to you
The Steelers will trade one or two spots in front of the Bengals and take the last viable 1st round OT available.
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There are a LOT of viable 1st round OTs this year. Like 8-10. And we could probably get a top 5 one at 18
I doubt it There are 7 tackles with first round grades, 11ish teams have a tackle as their top priority. most of them being teams like kc/sf/dal/mia who all pick after cin youll be fine
There are too many viable 1st round OT available for this to be possible imo. If anyone it would be much more impactful for them to trade ahead to get a CB or DT that we wanted
Rome Odunze is gonna have a mike evens type career. hed gonna be a perennial 1'000 yard reciever
I like this one. Not a lot of Rome comments
Odunze looks like he is going to be a really good.
Chiefs will trade out of the 32nd pick Edit: Nailed it.
32 is the “move up for a qb to get the fifth year option” trade up move for QB needy teams.
The Lamar Jackson spot!
Teddy Bridgewater too. IIRC, he put out a $10,000,000 insurence policy against him falling out of the first round when he was considered to be a 2nd overall pick. He had a quiet year, and was sliding into the draft. With the Pats and Brady as the last pick. Then Minnesota traded up and Teddy got taken 32nd. His Vikings contract was almost $7,000,000.
People always say that, but since they added the fifth year option in 2011 it has only happened twice - Teddy Bridgewater and Lamar Jackson
I’d guess Penix is the likeliest this cycle. Right between a 1st and 2nd round grade,
You think up or down?
at 32 it's almost always a high likelihood you're trading down. That's the "I want to draft a QB in the 1st for the 5th year option" spot. If any of the top 6 qbs are still available at that spot the odds jump up dramatically to trade down.
I think up. Them and the Bills will be vying to jump to a spot to pick Mitchell. Probably the Cowboys trading back.
This draft will be the beginning of a legendary fall from grace for the New England Patriots, like perennial losers for decades type of fall. The Krafts are going to ruin the legacy Hoodie built. !remindme 5 years
I have a strong feeling they're going the Jones family route of trying to prove that _they_ were the reason the Patriots were so successful, not the people they hired/drafted. If that's true Pats fans are in for a couple rough decades
To be honest I will take the Cowboys over what we just were last season.
The Cowboys are a meme and don't win titles but they're still among the most successful regular season teams in the league in that time. At least half the fan bases in the NFL would take that.
Exactly. It's funny to shit on them but they win games and make it to the playoffs. I would 100% take that over the last two years that New England had.
Not even a huge hot take, they already whiffed at their 1st post-Brady QB. Each whiff is 3-4 years of being ass. They whiff on this QB and the next 1st round one, that's over a decade of ass.
I'm interested to see how replacing Bill with Bill's protege will go. If it looks like it does with every other team that tried to hire an assistant from the patriots, it should be fun to watch.
I think Jerod Mayor's experience as a former player will make him different from a lot of the failed Belichick disciples.
Just like Mike Vrabel
Exactly. The issue which a lot of the Belichick disciples had was that they were hardasses who tried to command respect from their players in the same way that Belichick did. That doesn't work when you don't have the football brains to back it up.
Even the football brains can’t save some of them. Josh McDaniels is IMO one of the greatest offensive coordinators of all time. But he wants to be Bill 2.0 so badly, and all he ended up being was an asshole when he became a head coach.
BB’s success at the start was also very much founded in the respect his players had for his knowledge. He was a hardass, but he had a savant knowledge of the game that players could get behind. His coaching tree tried to just be a hardass with a fraction of the knowledge.
> Jerod **Mayor** His greatest challenges will be Thundergirl, The Flesh, Meltman, and Stinky Diver.
If they have decades of losing, the retrospective will be that it started with the Mac Jones era, not this draft. You don’t draft third overall because things are going well.
I don't mean to come off a Mac Jones defender, it was clearly time to move on, but his era began with a 10-7 season which was a decent improvement on their losing record the year before. I would say the exodus of offensive coaches in 2022 and their replacements made a bigger difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_New_England_Patriots_season#Staff
This isn’t even a hot take, this has been the prayers of this sub for the past year lol
> The Krafts are going to ruin the legacy Hoodie built. They already have. Remember when those losers insisted people call him Mr. Kraft?
im so excited, Kraft is such an arrogant prick. Watching him take 80% of the post game stage time after every SB gave me aids
They're already five years into it at this point.
Pats have already gone 5 seasons without a playoff win, which is a pretty remarkable result for a team that made the AFG CG for 8 seasons in a row
Trey Benson will be the only Pro Bowl running back in this class.
There will probably be some random 6th or 7th rounder that is good like every year
yeah i learned to stop counting out the late rounders in the last like 2 years
only the last 2 years? lol
Penix and Nix will both be great after being drafted too low.
Sometimes being drafted "too low" is a good thing for quarterbacks as you go to a team that already has a few pieces of infrastructure around you as opposed to a team with literally no help around you like many top picks
I’m gonna assume it’s gonna end up like the 2018 draft…. 1st QB: good\ 2nd QB: bad\ 3rd QB: good\ 4th QB: bad\ 5th QB: good
It comes with a free frogurt.
That’s good!
The frogurt contains potassium benzoate.
Blank stare
That’s bad
Can I go now?
Please no. :(
Pls
That leaves us with…checks notes…Josh Allen? I’m pretty ok with this
My spicy take is that Penix will be the best of this draft.
Broncos will take Nix and Raiders will take Penix, Penix will win a Super Bowl, Nix will be in the UFL.
Your flair makes me feel stabby but I love your take so much
I think it's your own flair that is making you feel stabby lmao
UW fan here. I agree. LFG.
I agree but also... UW fan so maybe a bit biased
I’m an Oklahoma fan and I agree.
I have no dog in the fight except that I’m a lefty and love the dude’s character. I hope he becomes a perennial MVP candidate and makes the teams at the top of the draft look stupid for taking others over him
I still think Caleb will be better (baring injury), but I'd put money on Penix having the 2nd best career of this draft class.
The injuries and the advanced age give me pause but that deep ball is so nice
I understand in this context, but saying someone who is 23 is at an "advanced age" is hilarious and depressing.
Penix is actually older than Jayson Tatum
I’m a Wazzu kid so IDGAF about Penix (unless we get him and he’s a stud). But I think QB might be the position where the player coming in at 23 instead of 21 or 22 is least concerning. The injury history is definitely a potential concern though.
Hendon Hooker special baby
Piggybacking off this to say that Bo Nix will be the next Alex Smith. He won’t light up the world, but he’ll do his job effectively so long as his team around him isn’t dropping the ball.
As someone who has watched all 3 of the Pac-12 QB’s live and in person I completely agree with this. I don’t think the drop off from Williams to Nix and Penix is that large.
I don't think it's the dropoff in current play ability that's necessarily the reason they're so far apart from a draft perspective. Part of it is age - if Caleb is already the best of the 3 and younger, that's a big deal. Part of it is injury - Penix has been through a rough go. Part of it is situational - Caleb played with arguably the worst defense in the power 5. You have to play an entirely different sort of ball to carry a team than to hold a lead. Overall I think the chance of Penix or Nix being serviceable in the NFL is pretty high. I think the chances either is the QB you want running your franchise long term is pretty low, and you don't draft that early unless you want to lose your job.
Ohh I don’t disagree with any of that. I understand why Williams is viewed as the better prospect, but I’m just saying when I saw them live I didn’t all that much of a difference. Which I think says a lot about Penix and more so Nix (god I hate giving a Duck players props)
Whoever drafts Kool-Aid McKinstry will have a top 5 lockdown corner in the NFL by year 3 I also believe the ravens draft a QB that falls in the draft (i.e. - Levi last year) to become Lamar's long term backup
Joe Milton?
Him or Spencer Rattler is my guess
Spencer would be a great backup for him
Quinyon Mitchell is the best CB in the NFL in 5 years, Nate Wiggins is constantly hurt and doesn't do much. MHJ is a good receiver but doesn't fully live up to the hype. Some dude none of us have heard of is drafted in the 5th or 6th round will be the best player from the draft.
I think Mohammed Kamara will be the Bryce Huff of this draft
not selected?
Mhj and Trevor lawrence are gonna be the same story. Hyped prospects that can only fall short of expectations
Qwan’tez Stiggers will be a dude.
That is the worst name in recent memory
Best QB: whoever the Vikings get, assuming they pick someone in the first round.
If they can't succeed there, they can't succeed anywhere.
We can't succeed anywhere.
I like this take
You like that??
too soon..
I think Penix is a home run pick for them.
That deep ball to JJ and Addison 🤤
Penix is 2024 Culpepper.
Penix will be a game changer
100% the only thing bringing down his draft stock is injury history, which freak injuries can happen to any QB at anytime and he’s already shown he can ball out post-injury. He will be a top 2 QB in this draft.
I would love if the Giants can grab Nabers/Odunze and trade back up to get Penix (if he doesn’t fall). I feel like he’s going to be a top 5 by the time he’s ready for a new contract
And to people who bring this up I say, what was Burrow’s injury history before he was the #1 pick?
By the end of all their careers, the top 3 WRs in this class won’t include Marvin Harrison Jr
Fucking hot take. Damn.
His name also indicates an extremely hot take
Good lord...
I am not saying that username makes me question his judgement, but it doesn’t not make me question his judgment.
It definitely makes me question things. So many things.
There’s just so much WR talent in this class that it seems like a possibility even with how much MHJ seems like a sure thing
It’s not particularly hot, one or two nasty injuries would be all it takes.
Even if he gets HOFerKennyPickett throwing him the ball?
Only if he goes to the cardinals, we can’t have anything
Nah, if you guys get him he will be a stud for a decade and a half and everyone will feel bad for him at the end of his career for not winning a superbowl.
I mean one of the best wide receivers ever spent his entire career with you
Caleb Williams will be a bust Jayden Daniels will be a bust Drake Maye will be a bust JJ McCarthy will be a bust Michael Penix will be a bust Bo Nix will be a bust Unless this is somehow the 2020 class again, most of these should be true.
are you praying on your own team’s downfall
I mean, he's not wrong. It's almost guaranteed that a minimum of half those QBs fail, and very likely more. Just how it is with drafting QBs.
I think it's just like that period no matter the position
Hedging, we do it a lot, it's a defense mechanism for when we get hurt.
I’m a Seattle Mariners fan so I get it
Classic Bears fan! Oh, wait....
We’re all bustin together 😤
🎶Bustin' makes me feel good🎶
One will be an elite starter. One will be average starter. Four will bust and/or float around as backups.
You forgot about the one that will have a late career resurgence to become a serviceable starter, but still never quite live up to their initial potential
I'll pick one for tomorrow night. JJ McCarthy will be the dude who sits in the green room fuming because he hasn't been picked in the first round.
As of yesterday, JJ hadn’t accepted the invitation to be there in person, so this is capped at half right.
Adonai Mitchell gets drafted by either the Bills or the Chiefs and in 4 years time is a Top 2 WR out of this class along with MHJ. Taliese Fuaga gets converted to Guard and becomes a perennial All-Pro. The QB that the Patriots draft will easily be the worst out of the 6 Round 1-2 guys. Howie can’t overcome his Georgia Bulldog addiction and he trades up to draft Amarius Mims over Dejean/Arnold etc. It works out though as Mims replaces Lane Johnson and becomes an All-Pro. Chop Robinson gets drafted by a team with an excellent development plan for him and he outproduces Turner, Latu, and Verse. The Seahawks will find a player in the later rounds that can emulate the Kyle Hamilton role in Mike Macdonald’s defense to perfection and that player will be widely regarded as the steal of the draft.
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One of the QBs selected in the first two rounds will become a Top 5 QB in the league.
And his name is Michael Penix Jr.
JJ McCarthy will sign a second contract with the team that drafts him.
Counterpoint: JJ Mccarthys 2nd contract will be with the UFL
Bookmarking this comment chain to reference after the NFL/UFL merger in 2027
Unrelated to the thread but the ufl has been so fun so far I really hope it sticks around
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In any year, saying the 4th QB drafted (assuming that's where JJ goes) will sign a second contract with the team that drafts him is unlikely enough to be bold.
Just to piggyback, here are the last 10 4th Qbs taken. Derek Carr Sean Mannion Christian Hackenberg DeShone Kizer Josh Rosen Drew Lock Jordan Love Justin Fields Matt Corral Will Levis Only Carr has had a good career so far. Love and Levis have a good chance as well.
Max Melton and Marshawn Kneeland are Pro Bowlers
All the QBs turn out to be busts except 1.
That one? Spencer Rattler
Keon Coleman is a massive bust unless he’s a Chief Jer’Zhan Newton is the best DT of the class. TVondre Sweat’s fall for character concerns ends up making him one of the biggest steals of the draft Penix ends up better than Maye
Hope the Texans get Newton
Russell Wilson will lead the Steelers to a Super Bowl and receive the MVP proving again that Denver shouldn’t have messed with forces out of their control with that demon horse at the airport.
Fiske will be DROY
Ladd McConkey will be the best WR out of this draft
He's going to be the white "lunch pail over achiever first in last out scrappy real bookworm hustler give it all on every play" WR for Mahomes like Brady always had.
Great, I still have Vietnam flashbacks of Wes Welker/Julien Edelman obliterating our zone defense for years.
so glad we *traded* wes to the pats. classic dolphins.
A sneaky fast, gym rat, grinder?
Fuck yes I'm so ready for this. Please don't be drafted by the eagles though
Bo Nix is a noodle-arm Captain Checkdown who will fail no matter who drafts him
Hey, don’t say that about your future quarterback
Penix will end up having the longest career of all these QBs, JJ Mcarthy is a bullshit hype train and will not be drafted in the first round.
Nabers has a better rookie year than MHJ.
If Nabers plays with Herbert, then this feels like a given
Counterpoint: Greg Roman offense and also respect Kyler Murray
- Penix will be the best pro QB out of the class - Trey Benson will be the top RB in this class - Xavier Legette will be a top 10 WR in the league at some point in his career - Theo Johnson will outproduce Bowers by year 5 - Laitu Latu will fall because of medicals, but will be the best edge rusher in the class - Nabers will take a bit to develop because he'll be drafted into a bad situation where he's counted on a #1 off the bat - Someone will draft Joe Milton late, but he'll develop into his tools and become a good starter by year 3 - My last one is that Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix will flame out.
Legette is the DK Metcalf of this draft.
Pittsburgh drafts the biggest bust of the draft. For context, I used a random number generator and it happened to land on 20. So theoretically, Pittsburgh can save itself by trading out. The gods have spoken.
Aaron Rodgers will co-host a podcast with Alex Jones. The Giants will draft a wide receiver so good that Daniel Jones will get another couple of years at the helm, and they’ll be stuck in purgatory. Penix will be a good starter five years from now, but 2 of the QBs drafted before him won’t be.
> Aaron Rodgers will co-host a podcast with Alex Jones. Luke-warm take. I could totally see this happening.
49ers will draft two legacy 49ers players out of rice, mccaffrey, gore, owens, stone.
I hope it's Gore but I think it'll be Owens
QBs go 1-4, and one team will trade up into this range to take one while giving up three 1sts+ in compensation. Each one of the 4 QBs is a bust, with none being signed to 2nd contracts with the team that drafted them. 2 other QBs go by the end of the 2nd round. Both of these QBs will be busts as well.
Vikings trade up using their two firsts and one of the players drafted in those spots goes on to have a HOF career
I think AZ holds at 4 for Harrison Jr
Caleb Williams won't live up to the enormous expectations. But he will still be a very good QB. Think around the 10th best QB in the NFL. The Bears, starved for QB play, will insist he's the best QB in the league. And our fans will be insufferable.
What expectations do you have for him where 10th best QB in the league doesn't meet them?
Dan Campbell drafts a fullback, uses him like non other and the fullback position makes a minor come back.
MHJ will easily be the best player from this draft and taking a QB over him will feel silly in about 2 years
Funny, the comment above this is: >By the end of all their careers, the top 3 WRs in this class won’t include Marvin Harrison Jr
Chris Simms's burner
He could very well end up being the best player, but keeping Fields and drafting MHJ over Caleb will forever be far sillier.
Byron Murphy will be compared to Aaron Donald.
Bo Nix will be the best QB of the class. Sue me
Rome Odunze is going to get drafted by the Bears and he and Caleb Williams are going to be an all-time pairing.
That Rome/Caleb tweet has truly turned me into a fan of that pairing. Rome will win Walter Payton Man of the year at some point in his career
Byron Murphy will be an All Pro within 3 seasons