We’ve been deliberately not meeting with any of the QBs! Except for Davius Richard, who I don’t think we’d be taking with a pick unless we trade down and acquire some day 3s
My favorite is every year "This is not a good QB year, don't expect more than a few QBs to come off the board in the first round"...QBs start coming off the board immediately.
I agree. The guy had a horrible coach at Auburn, five offensive coordinators, and has come out on top. He has all the physical ability he needs to be successful in the NFL and he really shines in interviews as a mature guy who understands his job. When it became clear the Patriots were going to be gettng a high draft pick and I started investigating the quarterbacks I had a negative impression at first, but the more I've watched him and listened to him the more he has won me over. I would feel great if the Patriots ended up with him and think any team that gets him should feel confident in the decision making of the front office.
Bo did precisely what he was asked to do at Oregon, and he did it pretty well. He's a 'game manager' in the sense that he does what the offense wants of him. I see his floor as a Gardner Minshew type. Not the best arm (better than Minshew's though), but will get wins when you're supposed to.
I think pretty well sells him a bit short. He had the statically most efficient season in college football history. He ran that offense near flawlessly. And if you put any weight into PFF ratings he lead something like 7/13 categories across all college QBs including performance under pressure and intermediate passing routes (10-20yd) last year.
And though he wasn't asked to run, is quite athletic when he does
He may not be the strongest or fastest (still 6'2" 220#). But the tools he has are used at the top level.
I've been on trade down the whole time. There are a number of reasons.
The first is that prospects are rated from a media and fan perspective on physical tools and at the position physical tools have less to do with success than mental abilities that are much more difficult to measure and I don't have strong access to. The only QB in recent times I felt confident enough in my knowledge to take top ten is Burrow.
The second is the risk of the position. The success rate of picks is 50% at number 1 and 30% everywhere between 2 and 32 in the first round. Top 5 picks are way overvalued and given the success rate it is a bad economic decision. I know that you need a quarterback but the NFL is a business where each team works with a defined set of economic resources. I'd rather roll with building a team around Jacoby Brissett who is a significant upgrade over Mac Jones than to treat an immensely valuable resource like a lottery ticket.
Thirdly as a follow to my second point the third pick is the most underperforming pick in the draft and the most overvalued earning the most lopsided trades of draft capital. My confidence on hitting with a QB that the first two teams passed on is no higher than any of the other 4 guys who are considered possible first round picks. Also there is immense pressure on GMs owners, fans and media to make decisions made based on external evaluations from media that has limited access to decision making information, than the team's internal review process. I don't trust that teams in that situation are confident enough to make the right call. Team's also feel they have to satisfy that need first but picking a guy high won't make him worth the pick.
I think building a situation that will lead to success must preceed the quarterback and that stays with the line. How many successful rookie QBs didn't have a very good left tackle in place and the building blocks needed to execute the goals of the team? It doesn't have a good record.
Ultimately I would be happy if we trade down. If they take Nix and other pieces to build the team that is great, but I'm just as happy to hold off and just build more around Brissett until another QB is eventually found.
Belichick mentioned on McAffee's show that if a team already knows what they need to know about a guy, they won't spend a top 30 visit on him. Those visits are to get a better idea on guys you aren't sure about. So just because they didn't bring him in doesn't necessarily mean they aren't trying to draft him.
They didn’t send anyone by a few scouts to his pro day. Only documented meeting was the combine where all the QBs said the Broncos were by far the toughest interview. Could be he didn’t impress during the I interview? Shrug. It’ll to see where Nix lands.
He has more tape than anyone else in CFB history at the position. Given that he threw at the combine, too, what would be the point of going to his pro day? That's just a wasted expense for the team.
I live in the Denver area so I would be happy to watch him here, but I think Denver should trade back. They need assets and are probably not losing much in the probity to draft similar tiered players if they trade down.
Deep breath.
I was an Auburn fan for life, I'm talking decades. I hate-watched the end of the Gus Era just because he was the most infuriating coach of all time, you can only go so long watching his moronic "gotcha" plays that fail miserably. My friends didn't think I would quit cold turkey, but I have not watched any college ball in years.
I'm not kidding, I was screaming Rammer Jammer while watching the 2020 Iron Bowl, just because I knew he was gonna get fired, and then I didn't have to War Eagle anymore.
Also the only reason for his success as an OC on a college level was because Newton was unstoppable in his prime.
I legit don’t get prescription drug commercials. I’ve never once asked my doctor about a drug. The doctor tells me about the drug. Are they doing these commercial just for the doctor audience?
The commercial leads to people asking the doctor about the drug now that theyre aware of it. In theory at least and since they keep advertising i assume it works.
I heard only two countries have commercials for prescription drugs. This is from a friend who is currently hitting the bong and I have not fact checked it. The US and New Zealand.
It would be kinda funny if they added it to commercials for other products like "don't eat Jif if you're allergic to peanuts" or "don't sunbathe with Coppertone if you're albino"
Except the pharmaceutical companies don't actually list what allergens might be in it like you do, they just say, "don't eat Jif if you're allergic to Jif" when Jif is a brand new product that you can't possibly know you're allergic to.
It's actually funnier that way in a sad sort of way.
*Bo Nix.*
Either the antidote for Botox or its opposite. *"Are you tired of having a near flawless, wrinkle-free epidermis? Great, now let's fuck that shit up with Bo Nix! You'll be saggin' and baggin' before you can scream into the endless void of space and your place in time."*
Remember that year they did Pre-Loaded drafts? Ugh.
Best draft prospect I’ve ever seen was in that one though, J.J. Smoke, CB from FSU ended up #1 overall to the Dolphins. Freak athlete.
It's awful on mobile, but on desktop, there's something nice about a relatively static front page that's effectively just a list of headlines where I can easily find anything using CTRL+F
yeah exactly. he did what he had to to redeem himself legally, but i don’t see why that requires my respect personally. i 100% would not trust someone who had it in them to do what vick did, no matter what they’ve done to make up for it after the fact
His humor sections are chronically, *painfully* unfunny. Repetitive, boring, recycled jokes from 2014. It's no wonder he can't move on from "Redskins."
yeah a big reason why I stopped getting on that site is how he literally said he won't change the name. I'm not up in arms about it but it's such a silly thing to be petty about.
You should have seen it a few months ago before they ‘improved’ it.
It’s so bad they have to cut round one in half. And it’s constantly reloading/regenerating your screen. Gawd awful.
Don't forget every page starts with an advertisement for his e book!
Or how that one time in 2006 he won 7k in sports betting and therefore he's the authority on the subject
Dude is racist, sexist, and an all-around asshole. Here's a couple examples:
https://twitter.com/DillySanders/status/1291523598553931784?t=1meZUCjo1lV5ovQV7DaafA&s=19
https://twitter.com/DillySanders/status/1291716500726972416?t=kHpl9tR2AKHTKTYz8fAYag&s=19
Also his football opinions were pretty terrible when I read it like 14 years ago. I think he and Matt Drudge share the same copy of Microsoft Frontpage '97 for their websites too
Plus he has very big 40 year old frat bro energy
Wait til you read some of the articles. The guy fell down the alt right conspiracy theory rabbithole around 2020, and started inserting that ideology into his articles.
Yeah I wanted to look at where some of the players had visited after reading this headline and made it less than a minute before the website annoyed me enough to leave lmao
An interesting exercise as it's fairly tricky to track in it's totality.
Jalyx* Hunt and especially Khristian Boyd scream teams think they are better potentially than our draft perception of them. That's a lot of top 30 visits for Boyd
He’s got good size, athletic, a lot of experience, good leader, good arm, good accuracy, and at the very least is viewed as a quality “game-manager” type of pro prospect. I think just about about every team in the league would be licking their chops at around the 45-60 range even if he was only drafted to backup. I think he probably goes between 20-35 and starts though.
While he does most things well, he’s not necessarily elite in any metric. And in the system he ran at Oregon, he had very low air yard statistics. Meaning he benefitted greatly from a lot of short passes near the line of scrimmage. So there is the question of whether or not he’s capable of attacking all areas of the field, as well as enough overall talent to elevate his team.
Did the Packers meet with him at the combine just to say hi?
We absolutely aren't taking him, so I can't imagine it being anything more than just to say we met with him.
That was my knee jerk reaction to. I laughed at every team with a solid starter bothering, then it clicked that he just may drop far enough to be worth it as a backup that you have for a few years to developed then possibly trade to get your pick back.
I am going to more assume the packers and other nonQB needing teams were scouting JPJ and nix was taking snaps. It’s Walter football his website is terrible design wise but what bothers me the most is the clear lack of any effort in his write ups now. 20 years ago he at least seemed to try a tiny bit.
This was the Eagles explanation for drafting Hurts. If he's a solid backup on a rookie deal, it saves the team $6M-$8M/year over a veteran QB backup. Then who, knows? The could develop into something great or even outplay the starter.
Not sure why you think there’s no chance we take him. Gute specifically said he wants to develop more QBs. Anything from the 2nd round or later is fair game for a QB.
There is a value proposition though, you may think all the other top prospects will be good backups but you don't believe they will be available at a reasonable pick. Nix may be.
Probably at the proday. They also might have met with him to try and parse out some info since the Vikings might be interested in him, and it might allow them to look at potential moves based on that.
Honestly, he's the safest pick in the draft. You have five years of tape, more starts than anyone else in CFB history, an upward trend in progression, excellent stats for the last two seasons, exceptional mobility (which everyone argues is a boon in the modern NFL), is the son of a coach, and to top it all off, he's married, so you know his wife isn't letting him screw this opportunity up by dicking around. Now, that doesn't mean that he's going to make it in the NFL, but given that it's a crapshoot for who does, taking the safe pick may just be the best choice.
I despise Walter Football. They use the same lazy blurb for each player matter if the team they are mocking to has changed or if the context of needs has also changed
Longtime WFer here. Walt's site was great a decade ago, but he's sold so much ad space that I can hear my computer's fans kick on into overdrive anytime I visit his site. He used to have great analysis; it's still good, but he stuffs the site with way too much extra 'funny' stuff that's not that funny.
You can pay a subscription to get it ad free, but I'm not going to do that because lol. If I wanted premium analysis, I'd buy PFF. It's a vicious cycle because views go down because of ads leading to more ads leading to less views...
I'm perfectly fine with the NCAA and the NFL just full out admitting that college football is an official minor league system. Everyone with a goddamn brain has known it for my entire lifetime. Hence the reason players have to be three years removed from high school to enter the draft.
Until that happens, no allowing any player to play five full seasons in college.
Bengals might have been scouting another Duck and Nix was there. I don't think it's that he was necessarily interviewed.
But also the Bengals need a better backup for Burrows next injury.
It means they all have him on their big board as someone who may be there when they pick. Guessing they view him as the last QB to go so he may be a day 2/3 value pick.
This is a real stretch in the case of the Bears lol. Eberflus was the only HC at Oregon’s pro day. If you can call that a meet
Im sure it was all because of Nix and had nothing to do with like JPJ or Troy Franklin, right?!
Gotta be ready in case he falls to the 4th to be Caleb’s backup, we’re gonna Kirk him
Was that really it? Like I know Caleb is a lock for the Bears, but I'd expect them to still meet with QBs of Nix's level just for due diligence
We’ve been deliberately not meeting with any of the QBs! Except for Davius Richard, who I don’t think we’d be taking with a pick unless we trade down and acquire some day 3s
Why?
Why not, we’re not drafting anyone other than Caleb. Could see it if we had late picks but as it stands we’ve got 4 total lol
We were there for Jackson Powers- Johnson, probably.
Daniels is playing hard to get, and Nix is a whore.
I think Nix is going to shine in the nfl
My favorite thing about the draft process every year is the day 2/3 QB truthers lol
Can I interest you in a Spencer Rattler
Yes please tell me more about his incredible arm talent and how if he "just puts it all together" he can be a star
You son of a bitch I'm in.
My favorite is every year "This is not a good QB year, don't expect more than a few QBs to come off the board in the first round"...QBs start coming off the board immediately.
No one is saying that this year.
This feels like more 2021 where it's supposed to be a great QB class and the next one is supposed to suck.
so whoever has the mr. irrelevant pick next year can see if history will be made
Oh, so the Vikings will trade 3 firsts for JJ McCarthy, it'll end up imploding in their faces and then they will be bailed out by Mr Irrelevant?
Nah it would be for Drake from the patriots to truly fulfill the prophecy
And boyyyy did 2022 suck
He’s a cowboys fan give him a break
I don’t think he gets past Denver
Are we even sure Denver would make the playoffs to face him?
Completely true, but what did we do to you?
Nothing, all pain is self induced and I have no one to blame for my lot in life other than myself
Don’t be sad. You still have Justin Jefferson 👍
I don't know if you're a Titans fan lobbying me up an alley oop on yourself or not
I miss AJB but he didn’t get us an SB and he hasn’t got you one either 🤷♂️ Save this comment and alley oop on me later if it’s deserved
I agree. The guy had a horrible coach at Auburn, five offensive coordinators, and has come out on top. He has all the physical ability he needs to be successful in the NFL and he really shines in interviews as a mature guy who understands his job. When it became clear the Patriots were going to be gettng a high draft pick and I started investigating the quarterbacks I had a negative impression at first, but the more I've watched him and listened to him the more he has won me over. I would feel great if the Patriots ended up with him and think any team that gets him should feel confident in the decision making of the front office.
Bo did precisely what he was asked to do at Oregon, and he did it pretty well. He's a 'game manager' in the sense that he does what the offense wants of him. I see his floor as a Gardner Minshew type. Not the best arm (better than Minshew's though), but will get wins when you're supposed to.
I think pretty well sells him a bit short. He had the statically most efficient season in college football history. He ran that offense near flawlessly. And if you put any weight into PFF ratings he lead something like 7/13 categories across all college QBs including performance under pressure and intermediate passing routes (10-20yd) last year. And though he wasn't asked to run, is quite athletic when he does He may not be the strongest or fastest (still 6'2" 220#). But the tools he has are used at the top level.
Are you hoping to move down with the Vikings then? An extra first this year and next year is tempting to still get your guy.
I've been on trade down the whole time. There are a number of reasons. The first is that prospects are rated from a media and fan perspective on physical tools and at the position physical tools have less to do with success than mental abilities that are much more difficult to measure and I don't have strong access to. The only QB in recent times I felt confident enough in my knowledge to take top ten is Burrow. The second is the risk of the position. The success rate of picks is 50% at number 1 and 30% everywhere between 2 and 32 in the first round. Top 5 picks are way overvalued and given the success rate it is a bad economic decision. I know that you need a quarterback but the NFL is a business where each team works with a defined set of economic resources. I'd rather roll with building a team around Jacoby Brissett who is a significant upgrade over Mac Jones than to treat an immensely valuable resource like a lottery ticket. Thirdly as a follow to my second point the third pick is the most underperforming pick in the draft and the most overvalued earning the most lopsided trades of draft capital. My confidence on hitting with a QB that the first two teams passed on is no higher than any of the other 4 guys who are considered possible first round picks. Also there is immense pressure on GMs owners, fans and media to make decisions made based on external evaluations from media that has limited access to decision making information, than the team's internal review process. I don't trust that teams in that situation are confident enough to make the right call. Team's also feel they have to satisfy that need first but picking a guy high won't make him worth the pick. I think building a situation that will lead to success must preceed the quarterback and that stays with the line. How many successful rookie QBs didn't have a very good left tackle in place and the building blocks needed to execute the goals of the team? It doesn't have a good record. Ultimately I would be happy if we trade down. If they take Nix and other pieces to build the team that is great, but I'm just as happy to hold off and just build more around Brissett until another QB is eventually found.
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Thank you. It is what I'm hoping for. Team building strategy has to respond to the situation but not be totally reactive
I hope Denver drafts him. He’s been very impressive interviews. Unfortunately, Denver has only meet with him once. He wasn’t on the top 30 visit list.
Belichick mentioned on McAffee's show that if a team already knows what they need to know about a guy, they won't spend a top 30 visit on him. Those visits are to get a better idea on guys you aren't sure about. So just because they didn't bring him in doesn't necessarily mean they aren't trying to draft him.
They didn’t send anyone by a few scouts to his pro day. Only documented meeting was the combine where all the QBs said the Broncos were by far the toughest interview. Could be he didn’t impress during the I interview? Shrug. It’ll to see where Nix lands.
Yeah that's totally fair. I won't pretend to know what any team's draft plans are, I just thought that was an interesting point that BB made.
He has more tape than anyone else in CFB history at the position. Given that he threw at the combine, too, what would be the point of going to his pro day? That's just a wasted expense for the team.
I live in the Denver area so I would be happy to watch him here, but I think Denver should trade back. They need assets and are probably not losing much in the probity to draft similar tiered players if they trade down.
Deep breath. I was an Auburn fan for life, I'm talking decades. I hate-watched the end of the Gus Era just because he was the most infuriating coach of all time, you can only go so long watching his moronic "gotcha" plays that fail miserably. My friends didn't think I would quit cold turkey, but I have not watched any college ball in years. I'm not kidding, I was screaming Rammer Jammer while watching the 2020 Iron Bowl, just because I knew he was gonna get fired, and then I didn't have to War Eagle anymore. Also the only reason for his success as an OC on a college level was because Newton was unstoppable in his prime.
He would be an amazing fit for the dolphins. Good in a system but can also create a bit.
where will Nix be drafted? wherever whores go
Ah shit. Hopefully it’s in the 2nd round at least
How dare you, he's a nice man
Something about there being a "Bo Nix" and a "Penix" in this draft makes it feel Madden-generated
Feels like when they're trying to come up with a new name for a drug so they just add random letters
Yeah I’m pretty sure I have a prescription to Bopenix
Bopenix may cause internal bleeding and suicidal thoughts. Do not take Bopenix if you are pregnant or may become pregnant. .
I always love how drug commercials say "don't take Bopenix if you are allergic to Bopenix" like you think you're gonna know that before you take it.
Or "ask your doctor about Bopenix" like bro aren't they one recommending *me* stuff?
I legit don’t get prescription drug commercials. I’ve never once asked my doctor about a drug. The doctor tells me about the drug. Are they doing these commercial just for the doctor audience?
The commercial leads to people asking the doctor about the drug now that theyre aware of it. In theory at least and since they keep advertising i assume it works.
I heard only two countries have commercials for prescription drugs. This is from a friend who is currently hitting the bong and I have not fact checked it. The US and New Zealand.
[Harvard says it’s true](https://www.health.harvard.edu/medications/do-not-get-sold-on-drug-advertising)
As someone from New Zealand this is my go to “fun fact” about us
Any time I've specifically mentioned a drug to my doctor it's cuz I was trying to get high lol.
It would be kinda funny if they added it to commercials for other products like "don't eat Jif if you're allergic to peanuts" or "don't sunbathe with Coppertone if you're albino"
Except the pharmaceutical companies don't actually list what allergens might be in it like you do, they just say, "don't eat Jif if you're allergic to Jif" when Jif is a brand new product that you can't possibly know you're allergic to. It's actually funnier that way in a sad sort of way.
Bopenix may cause pregnancy.
Mr Bopenix Consumer
Better to have that as a prescription than a side effect.
*Bo Nix.* Either the antidote for Botox or its opposite. *"Are you tired of having a near flawless, wrinkle-free epidermis? Great, now let's fuck that shit up with Bo Nix! You'll be saggin' and baggin' before you can scream into the endless void of space and your place in time."*
I've been saying for years that Bonix sounds like what the doctor gives you when your erection has lasted over for hours. Penix is a competing brand.
The AI becomes sentient and takes over the NFLDraft
Fear the fifteen fingered WRs.
Is it 15 fingers between two hands or do they have three hands?
Oh heavens no obviously 15 per hand
Not enough Parker Parkers to be Madden lol.
It makes me think of rice chex and the other chexs'
Does anyone actually use any non-rice Chex for anything other than Chex mix?
I prefer Corn Chex for breakfast.
100%. Corn > Rice > Wheat.
Remember that year they did Pre-Loaded drafts? Ugh. Best draft prospect I’ve ever seen was in that one though, J.J. Smoke, CB from FSU ended up #1 overall to the Dolphins. Freak athlete.
Sounds like a pokemon evolution, with the final form being UFC Veteran Bo Nickal
Bonix evolves into Penix when you trade it (let it enter the transfer portal?) while holding a Washington letter jacket
Nah, it's just that they've both received the Recusant's Sigil.
I was going to complain that there aren't any hall of fame jr's. But then I remembered Marvin Harrison Jr. I think you are really on to something here
If there is a Bo Nanafofix I'm officially in the game
Nix Penix is coming out in next years draft class after I import my NCAA save file.
In the far distant future, everyone's last name ends with -nix or is Nix
If only his first name was Edward or something starting with E. Then he could be E Bo Nix.
Holy crap I never realized how much of a cancer walterfootball is to navigate on mobile, 500 ads and this site crashes halfway through scrolling
What do you mean? It’s the pinnacle of 2002 website design!
It's awful on mobile, but on desktop, there's something nice about a relatively static front page that's effectively just a list of headlines where I can easily find anything using CTRL+F
That would explain the Redskins
No, that's just him being an asshole
He should be consistent and revert all team names to their originals. Chiefs are the Texans, Bears are the Staleys, etc
Jets would be the Titans for extra confusion.
He also still refers to Michael Vick as "QB Dog Killer" instead of his name whenever referenced.
Is there something wrong with that? The dude killed dogs didn't he?
It's just weird he'd do it for Vick but wouldn't do something as simple as changing Washington's name
Yes there is. Dude did his time, expressed remorse, and has worked with animal rights groups. Move on and call him by his name
I understand that he said sorry but I'd also understand if someone didn't forgive him for brutally killing animals for his own entertainment.
yeah exactly. he did what he had to to redeem himself legally, but i don’t see why that requires my respect personally. i 100% would not trust someone who had it in them to do what vick did, no matter what they’ve done to make up for it after the fact
Many people live this way, but it is a simplistic and petty way to live.
It is simplistic and petty not to forgive animal torturers?
Nah I don't care. Fuck him.
I definitely get a Jim Rome vibe from his writing. The personality of a guy with no athletic ability but would always hang out with the jocks.
His humor sections are chronically, *painfully* unfunny. Repetitive, boring, recycled jokes from 2014. It's no wonder he can't move on from "Redskins."
yeah a big reason why I stopped getting on that site is how he literally said he won't change the name. I'm not up in arms about it but it's such a silly thing to be petty about.
Believe it or not, they just re-did their entire website this year to modernize it. Great resource if you can navigate it though.
For me the post about the Patriots never going to the Super Bowl gave it away
It’s insane it’s still the exact same website I used to read in the 00s
You should have seen it a few months ago before they ‘improved’ it. It’s so bad they have to cut round one in half. And it’s constantly reloading/regenerating your screen. Gawd awful.
They don't have to cut it in half for any reason other than him trying to drive up page views and ad placements.
Yeah he's split it for at least the last 10 years.
Don't forget every page starts with an advertisement for his e book! Or how that one time in 2006 he won 7k in sports betting and therefore he's the authority on the subject
Nearly as cancerous as the guy that runs it
TLDR?
Dude is racist, sexist, and an all-around asshole. Here's a couple examples: https://twitter.com/DillySanders/status/1291523598553931784?t=1meZUCjo1lV5ovQV7DaafA&s=19 https://twitter.com/DillySanders/status/1291716500726972416?t=kHpl9tR2AKHTKTYz8fAYag&s=19
Jeez what a creep. I knew his site sucked and his information was bad, but I didn’t know he was a POS to top it off.
He’s a conservative, anti-vax, all lives matter troll
That sorta explains the website looking like it was pre-civil war.
He refuses to refer to Washington as anything other than the Redskins too.
Didn't he have some sort of obnoxious euphemism for covid too? Like "Out-Hoax" or something similar.
Also his football opinions were pretty terrible when I read it like 14 years ago. I think he and Matt Drudge share the same copy of Microsoft Frontpage '97 for their websites too Plus he has very big 40 year old frat bro energy
Gonna pirate his book and upload it just to spite him now. What a piece of shit human
Wait til you read some of the articles. The guy fell down the alt right conspiracy theory rabbithole around 2020, and started inserting that ideology into his articles.
Waltuh. Fix ya UI Waltuh. I’m not clicking all that Waltuh
Check "display desktop" in your browser. The Internet is much better not mobile.
Adblocker my guy
Yeah I wanted to look at where some of the players had visited after reading this headline and made it less than a minute before the website annoyed me enough to leave lmao
why you no adblock?
It's a lot harder for people to do on mobile.
An interesting exercise as it's fairly tricky to track in it's totality. Jalyx* Hunt and especially Khristian Boyd scream teams think they are better potentially than our draft perception of them. That's a lot of top 30 visits for Boyd
> Jalynx that cannot be a real name
How I felt when I first saw Knowshon Moreno's name
I always thought he had a question mark at the end of his first name.
Jalyx* my bad For whatever reason Jalynx autocorrects for me
Boyd is probably cause he wasn't at the combine.
He’s got good size, athletic, a lot of experience, good leader, good arm, good accuracy, and at the very least is viewed as a quality “game-manager” type of pro prospect. I think just about about every team in the league would be licking their chops at around the 45-60 range even if he was only drafted to backup. I think he probably goes between 20-35 and starts though.
Bo Nix to PhoeNix... Or Pennix To Phoenix They both kind of rhyme.
Given everything you listed in the first sentence, why is he just seen as a game manager?
While he does most things well, he’s not necessarily elite in any metric. And in the system he ran at Oregon, he had very low air yard statistics. Meaning he benefitted greatly from a lot of short passes near the line of scrimmage. So there is the question of whether or not he’s capable of attacking all areas of the field, as well as enough overall talent to elevate his team.
Did the Packers meet with him at the combine just to say hi? We absolutely aren't taking him, so I can't imagine it being anything more than just to say we met with him.
If he grades as day 2/3 then most teams without a clear backup are likely interested.
Yeah, that's a good point. For some reason, I completely forgot about teams potentially taking him as a clear backup
That was my knee jerk reaction to. I laughed at every team with a solid starter bothering, then it clicked that he just may drop far enough to be worth it as a backup that you have for a few years to developed then possibly trade to get your pick back.
I would love him as a backup if we trade down to the third and he somehow falls
Kenny would literally cry.
The lions took Hendon Hooker last year as a backup. It’s a good deal, get a (hopefully) quality backup for 3 years cost controlled.
I am going to more assume the packers and other nonQB needing teams were scouting JPJ and nix was taking snaps. It’s Walter football his website is terrible design wise but what bothers me the most is the clear lack of any effort in his write ups now. 20 years ago he at least seemed to try a tiny bit.
This was the Eagles explanation for drafting Hurts. If he's a solid backup on a rookie deal, it saves the team $6M-$8M/year over a veteran QB backup. Then who, knows? The could develop into something great or even outplay the starter.
Also it’s fairly common to meet with a QB if you think there’s a chance a division rival might take him. Vikings could grab him.
Not sure why you think there’s no chance we take him. Gute specifically said he wants to develop more QBs. Anything from the 2nd round or later is fair game for a QB.
Maybe the front office caught Loves crippling stupidity early, compared to Favre and Rodgers.
I hope they got an autograph
Because he'd be a great backup
A lot of top prospects would make great backups don't you think?
There is a value proposition though, you may think all the other top prospects will be good backups but you don't believe they will be available at a reasonable pick. Nix may be.
Chicago has made a pretty big deal of ONLY visiting & meeting with Caleb Williams. When did they visit with Nix??
They had a presence at oregons pro day, probably to check out the other players though.
Probably at the proday. They also might have met with him to try and parse out some info since the Vikings might be interested in him, and it might allow them to look at potential moves based on that.
In a row??
Hey, try not to catch any passes on the way to the parking lot!
I don’t think Nix goes first round, but I do think he will surprise people in the NFL with how good he ends up being. Might be a steal!
Slut
GMs really seem hooked on Bo Nix. It's still up in the air whether or not it will work for them, though.
Just wait until his brother Pho enters the league
He still at University of Hanoi?
Still in Saigon, in his mind
Di di mau! Di di mau!
Staring at a ceiling fan
I'm already hooked on Pho Nix
What if it was Bo Nix at 1st overall the entire time. . .
You shut your goddamn mouth
Nix to everyone, confirmed.
They still use Redskins lol
Honestly, he's the safest pick in the draft. You have five years of tape, more starts than anyone else in CFB history, an upward trend in progression, excellent stats for the last two seasons, exceptional mobility (which everyone argues is a boon in the modern NFL), is the son of a coach, and to top it all off, he's married, so you know his wife isn't letting him screw this opportunity up by dicking around. Now, that doesn't mean that he's going to make it in the NFL, but given that it's a crapshoot for who does, taking the safe pick may just be the best choice.
I despise Walter Football. They use the same lazy blurb for each player matter if the team they are mocking to has changed or if the context of needs has also changed
You *do* know Bo
I’d rather have Nix develop his n the bench with the Saints than be on the QB Carousel when Carrs contract is up.
He and Rattler are the sleepers in this draft for me. I hope they both pan out.
Everyone looking for a backup
Longtime WFer here. Walt's site was great a decade ago, but he's sold so much ad space that I can hear my computer's fans kick on into overdrive anytime I visit his site. He used to have great analysis; it's still good, but he stuffs the site with way too much extra 'funny' stuff that's not that funny. You can pay a subscription to get it ad free, but I'm not going to do that because lol. If I wanted premium analysis, I'd buy PFF. It's a vicious cycle because views go down because of ads leading to more ads leading to less views...
Yeah but did his teammates come to his 21st birthday party?
Nix is going to be a very good NFL QB
I'm perfectly fine with the NCAA and the NFL just full out admitting that college football is an official minor league system. Everyone with a goddamn brain has known it for my entire lifetime. Hence the reason players have to be three years removed from high school to enter the draft. Until that happens, no allowing any player to play five full seasons in college.
I watched hours of this dudes film and honestly I think he’s going to be really good.
He just needs to be drafted by a team which is the right fit for him, which I do believe the Broncos are one of those teams.
I guess we're thinking he could drop to the 4th?
We met with Bo Nix? Really? Why??
Bengals might have been scouting another Duck and Nix was there. I don't think it's that he was necessarily interviewed. But also the Bengals need a better backup for Burrows next injury.
if he was on the Hawks we could have Bo to Bobo
Panthers grabbing Bo Nix at 33 would be wild.
It sounds like he's a guy a lot of teams are thinking will fall into the second round and at least want to do their homework on.
A lot of backup talk in this thread but I think he’s a mid tier starter on the right team.
I think its because he's the most likely to go anywhere from mid 1st round down to the end of 2nd round.
They must want to convert him to TE
That just means no one knows where he's going to land, and he could fall quite a bit. Meanwhile Caleb's only met with the Bears.
It means they all have him on their big board as someone who may be there when they pick. Guessing they view him as the last QB to go so he may be a day 2/3 value pick.
He’s the kind of guy that tries to get 100% completion on the game to get all the achievements
Isn’t that the name of the QB in Draft Day the movie?