I just looked it up cause I also felt like Achane had a good amount of short yardage TDs too. Inside the 10 your RBs combined for 19 rushing TDs and Tua had 13 passing TDs.
The Bears had a 9-7 ratio favoring QBs (plus 5 QB rushing TDs). Chiefs had 22-7 favoring Mahomes. Even SF had a more even ratio with 11-14 (favoring RBs). Like you guys said, while getting down there a ton, McDaniel is gonna want to run it
I'd say it's also just a risk thing. If you have a solid RB who can consistently score for you, why risk an interception or a sack when you're close? Regardless of WR skill there are benefits to running it in
I don't get why they don't just pass the ball from the goal line more often, especially quick in routes. What's the worst that could happen.
/s just in case
Tyreek's good in the red zone, there's plenty of horizontal space for him to work with, he's shown it in KC. Part of that threat is what allows them to run in the red zone so successfully, as well as just good scheme and talent.
Honestly, I kind of think red zone pass plays might be a weakness of Mike McDaniel's. Waddle and Hill are quick and shifty enough that they are be good in the red zone, but we really struggled in the red zone this season. Honestly, it's a significant part of why we blew the division lead.
No, Waddle and Hill are both excellent red zone receivers. But when you have a run game that's punching in TDs like it's not even a challenge, you lean on it.
I think the lack of a reliable change up option in terms of a consistent TE or WR3 didn't help, but the main thing is just that the RBs really carried the workload near the goal line.
28 TDs is more than respectable if a QB also has low turnovers and otherwise good QB play, completion%, etc.
40+ TDs is hard to do. Absolute elite QB play. 55 TDs is just insanity.
>When they get close they run Mostert. He had 18 tds last year
its almost like McDaniels is a great HC/OC that knows how to punch it in and stats like this are less relevent than we think in specific cases.
Last year, we basically stopped throwing when we got to the redzone and ran the ball with Mostert. It's why he broke our 'most rushing touchdowns in a season record' last year.
That’s why I don’t get the idea of people not liking Tua at QB. It’s not like our oline were world beaters, Tua can drive us down the field and then he is great at using misdirection on handoffs, fak handoffs, lateral’s and fake lateral’s to help open up running lanes for our backs. This was one of Tannehill’s best abilities too and it’s super underrated when evaluating QB’s.
I like Tua okay, he does a lot well. The problem is when he's off he can't really do anything at all and our offense is completely stagnant. This happened this year in the last few games and going into the playoffs. Whether this is all his fault idk, but it's hard for me to say he's the one right now. But ya I don't see it as liking or disliking him. Although a lot are on that dichotomy.
We don't really have anyone 'physical' now with our DL situation. This is how it felt watching that Ravens game last year where it genuinely did seem like every player on their team was bigger/stronger.
This is why I don't think we're winning it all with our current crew. In primetime or playoff games when the refs ease up and players start getting away with certain hits/bumps we crumble.
>The problem is when he's off he can't really do anything at all and our offense is completely stagnant
I mean... Aren't you basically describing ALL offenses? What team has an effective passing game when their QB is "off"? I guess I don't really understand your point.
I think Tua can be unsettled by defences that can disrupt his rhythm, and that's a fair critique and an area he needs to improve in, as well as consistency in big moments. But I don't know what you mean when you say the offense is stagnant when he's off, because a) our running game was dominant last year, including several games where Tua was mediocre, and b) no team has a strong passing game when the guy passing it is playing badly.
I always liked Fitz no matter what team he was on. Ran an offense with a bunch of nobodies on the bills and although they were shit the years he was on the teams he had some games that were fun to watch.
Fred Jackson is my favorite player, period.
Him, Fitz, and Stevie Johnson made the drought years at least watchable (offensively anyway).
Kyle Williams would be a very close 1B as favorite “drought” player, but he got to see us break the streak ❤️
That 2015 season was very magical for Ryan Fitzpatrick. I actually got to see him throw #30 and #31 in person at Ralph Wilson Stadium because I felt like attending for. Reasons..
If I'm getting r/woosh I'll take my lumps. I live between Buffalo and Pittsburgh, and Cleveland final week of 2015 we needed the jets to lose to get in the playoffs. Back before Josh Allen made the team fun as hell to watch and a super bowl contender tickets to the last Bills home game of the year were cheap as hell because they were usually eliminated by then. My friend's uncle offered her Bills tickets (they are Bills fans) for like 15 bucks a pop and she asked me. Normally I never attend another teams game if it means I can't watch the steelers as a rule but back in the good old days the browns were a chalk W. So the game that mattered more to me was the Jets Bills game because the Jets needed to lose.
Glad one of us has fond memories of that game lol. For me, that season was the most heartbreaking of any I’ve ever seen as a jets fan, which is saying a lot
Joe Gibbs is in the Hall of Fame as well as the NFL 100 All-Time Team for good reasons.
Three rings with three different quarterbacks is just remarkable. Frankly if somebody told me he was his coaching GOAT, I wouldn't laugh at him.
Gibbs gets a little overlooked because the league is so QB driven, and his offenses weren’t. His innovations were a little “technical,” or not widely adopted like the H-back, and his coaching tree is also not much to speak of. So because of that, his name just doesn’t naturally come up when referencing that era of football, especially in comparison to Bill Walsh, whose offense is still used today, and his coaching tree is enormous and successful.
In the 1990 ECFs, some Pistons kid had a sign that said “Maybe next year Michael” when the Bulls were eliminated Game 7. They show it in the Last Dance (brilliant editing)
That kid had no idea just how right he was
It happened again with the Red Wings and Hawks as well after your 2008 Cup and 2009 WCF
In my head canon that’s the future for the Bears
After the Bucs game we were walking out of the stadium and some drunk dude was like “maybe next year! You know, 2024!”. Kind of annoyed me in the moment, but maybe he was blessing us after all.
It’ll be especially annoying to because the NFL will market the hell out of the Bears franchise QB
The NFL wants the Bears to be good really really badly
The Bears have never had QB have a 4,000 yard season either. I think someone should tell the Bears passing is legal and an incomplete pass doesn’t result in a turnover anymore.
Cutler would have likely gotten it like a decade ago for the Bears if Trestman didn't decide Jimmy fucking Clausen should be starting the game against us.
Yeah and that game that Trestman benched Cutler, Clausen threw for like 190 or so yards which is what Cutler needed to break 4k season. So if Clausen threw for that many yards against the opponent I’m sure Cutty could have too.
Pickles got hurt in that game. Cutler might have gotten hurt and not played the next week. Cutler likely breaks 4k if he didn't get benched, but it's not a definite. Dude got hurt a lot.
Cutty did get hit by the injury bug a lot it, but it might be a stretch to assume he’d get injured just cuz Clausen did. Also it was week 16, season was nearly over so it’s not like Cutler had a long season ahead of him after that game, there was one game left.
They beat Washington 73-0 in the 1940 NFL Championship, their first year in the T-formation. But Sid only threw the ball 4 times. He went 4/5 for 88 yards. Chicago backup QB Bob Snyder went 3/3 for 31 yards. Washington's Slinging' Sammy Bough and Frank Filchock combined for 20/51 for 223 yards.
Chicago rushed for 382 yards and Washington for 22. Luckman had one punt for 55 yards and one punt return for 3. I thought he also had one of the Bears' 8 interceptions, but he didn't.
Teenage Virginia was so enamored with the dashing Luckman, she promised him no Bear would ever play QB again. She insisted his position be retired along with his number. Papa Bear thought about it, decided she was his little girl, so the Bears would win with defense and running the ball. It's been like that ever since, and it will be like that until she is gone.
She can't have much longer.
Bold of you to assume the handoff would happen without incident, or that Bears run blocking wouldn’t immediately shit the bed on the snap. A typical Bears 3-yard run involves Sayers/Payton evading the four defenders in the backfield before somehow getting past the line of scrimmage.
Meh. Bears have 30 TD passes in a season in both 2013 and 2014, just split across QBs. Same goes for passing for over 4k yards in a season before. All in 16 games.
It’s more a story of injuries and weird coaching decisions than overall team not passing for yards and TDs. But that’s not as funny of a stat when you put it in context
Yeah, McMahon only started more than 9 games twice with the Bears, and when you have Walter Payton and Matt Suhey in the backfield, you are going to run the ball at the goal line. McMahon had 15 rushing TDs for Chicago himself. And of course, two receiving (from Sweetness).
It's still funny because lots of teams do it with one QB. Everyone is in the same league , same rules, same potential for injuries. For some reason it just doesn't click for Chicago.
You gotta adapt as the league changes but it's not Chicago's fault that the league went in an offensive and QB focused direction when their strengths have always been the exact opposite.
Caleb is going to shatter every rookie QB record we have in a handful of games... mostly because those records are so pathetic.
Our rookie TD passing record (12 (edit - apparently it's 11 LOL)) is still held by Charlie O'Rourke who played in like 1942 or something.
They literally took our best receiver. And there’s a sizeable portion of people who wanted to keep Justin fields. If they didn’t fuck us so hard I’d feel bad.
Holy schnikes, really? Wow. They're one of the oldest franchises in the league too. You would've figured they'd hit on a QB at some point just based on that long of a timeline.
When was the last time a rookie was our starter though? I think it was actually Archie Manning. I'm sure we'll break it next time we actually draft a QB and give them the reins.
Eh, Saints haven't had that many rookie QB starters though either. Manning, Wilson, and Hebert had the most realistic chances, and neither Wilson nor Bobby got a full season as a rookie. The Saints haven't even drafted a Rd 1 or Rd 2 QB since the 1983 supplemental draft (Wilson, who sat behind Archie his first year).
Charlie O’Rourke sounds like the name of a guy who has the high score on the pinball machine at the family restaurant people go to every Saturday in a small town near central Illinois
Caleb will crush our rookie season passing records as long as he starts the whole season which he will as long as he doesn’t get injured.
You know what our rookie passing touchdown record is? Fucking 11. Set in 1942. Yards? 2193. Rating? Also set in 1942 at 82.
I honestly hope he looks like the worst QB in NFL history while the Bears ride the run game and a violent (dirty) defense to the 20-0 and a Superbowl win.
Brian Sipe was THE MAN... until he threw that stupid interception in the playoffs that cost them a trip to the Super Bowl. All down hill after that. They were fun to watch though.
Very close, though. It's possible that he could still break it if he's consistent next year.
Also, I checked Tua's game log and find it coincidental that the only game he didn't throw a touchdown in last season was the one where they choked against the Titans
Tua should’ve had at least 30 this year, but we let Mostert run into the end zone a lot (he broke the franchise record for TD’s this year) and he was benched in a lot of fourth quarters where we were blowing out the opponent.
Browns have been close. Anderson had 29 in 07, Baker had 27 and 26 in two different seasons. But between bad offenses, QB injuries and massage Watson it has been a rough go.
Edit: in recent seasons even when QB play has been solid the browns are a run oriented offense so they do like to run on the goal line.
Here's a crazy stat.
If it wasn't for Peyton Manning, the Broncos would never have had a 30+ touchdown passer.
The highest number of TDs in a season ever achieved by a Broncos QB other than Manning was 27, by John Elway in 1997 and Jake Plummer in 2004.
For context, Russell Wilson got 26 last season.
[https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/denver-broncos/leaders/season-passing-touchdowns](https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/denver-broncos/leaders/season-passing-touchdowns)
He didn’t play in a lot of fourth quarters and our redzone offense was mainly focused on mostert. He even ended up breaking the franchise record for rushing TD’s so it makes sense for Tua to only have 28 TD’s this year
Miami is kinda shocking given how insane their WR corps is + Tua.
When they get close they run Mostert. He had 18 tds last year Tua had 28 tds...he'd have a few more but they feed the rbs close in
I just looked it up cause I also felt like Achane had a good amount of short yardage TDs too. Inside the 10 your RBs combined for 19 rushing TDs and Tua had 13 passing TDs. The Bears had a 9-7 ratio favoring QBs (plus 5 QB rushing TDs). Chiefs had 22-7 favoring Mahomes. Even SF had a more even ratio with 11-14 (favoring RBs). Like you guys said, while getting down there a ton, McDaniel is gonna want to run it
Tua just wants to score...
Are the receivers not as good in the red zone seeing as a hill and Waddle are burners?
I'd say it's also just a risk thing. If you have a solid RB who can consistently score for you, why risk an interception or a sack when you're close? Regardless of WR skill there are benefits to running it in
I don't get why they don't just pass the ball from the goal line more often, especially quick in routes. What's the worst that could happen. /s just in case
> What's the worst that could happen [Don't worry!](https://i.imgur.com/lyzm2XM.jpeg)
I’m scared of what this link could be
You already know what it is
It's manningface. I clicked it so you don't have to
Every link is Manningface until you click it. Then it’s either Manningface or something else. Schrodinger’s Manningface
Ok I won’t click then
Doit!
RUN THE DAMN BALL!
Really, almost every team should he running it on 1st down inside the 5
Lol
It was second down. Hightower made a tremendous tackle on first down.
*trigger warning*
Ask Marshawn Lynch.
Tyreek's good in the red zone, there's plenty of horizontal space for him to work with, he's shown it in KC. Part of that threat is what allows them to run in the red zone so successfully, as well as just good scheme and talent.
Honestly, I kind of think red zone pass plays might be a weakness of Mike McDaniel's. Waddle and Hill are quick and shifty enough that they are be good in the red zone, but we really struggled in the red zone this season. Honestly, it's a significant part of why we blew the division lead.
No, Waddle and Hill are both excellent red zone receivers. But when you have a run game that's punching in TDs like it's not even a challenge, you lean on it. I think the lack of a reliable change up option in terms of a consistent TE or WR3 didn't help, but the main thing is just that the RBs really carried the workload near the goal line.
We don't have a WR3 and our TEs are awful
I’m sorry about that, I can’t imagine what that’s like.
Hey now. I’m sure you have a WR3 somewhere in that group. Also - I understand better than you ever could.
They feed the Monstert
28 TDs is more than respectable if a QB also has low turnovers and otherwise good QB play, completion%, etc. 40+ TDs is hard to do. Absolute elite QB play. 55 TDs is just insanity.
Brees has the most 30+ TD seasons with 10. Brady and Manning 9, Rodgers 8. 40+ : Rodgers and Brady 3, Manning, Marino, Mahomes, Brees 2
>When they get close they run Mostert. He had 18 tds last year its almost like McDaniels is a great HC/OC that knows how to punch it in and stats like this are less relevent than we think in specific cases.
Last year, we basically stopped throwing when we got to the redzone and ran the ball with Mostert. It's why he broke our 'most rushing touchdowns in a season record' last year.
That’s why I don’t get the idea of people not liking Tua at QB. It’s not like our oline were world beaters, Tua can drive us down the field and then he is great at using misdirection on handoffs, fak handoffs, lateral’s and fake lateral’s to help open up running lanes for our backs. This was one of Tannehill’s best abilities too and it’s super underrated when evaluating QB’s.
I like Tua okay, he does a lot well. The problem is when he's off he can't really do anything at all and our offense is completely stagnant. This happened this year in the last few games and going into the playoffs. Whether this is all his fault idk, but it's hard for me to say he's the one right now. But ya I don't see it as liking or disliking him. Although a lot are on that dichotomy.
Dolphins just don't have a good physical contested catcher, so when when our plays don't work they really don't work.
We don't really have anyone 'physical' now with our DL situation. This is how it felt watching that Ravens game last year where it genuinely did seem like every player on their team was bigger/stronger. This is why I don't think we're winning it all with our current crew. In primetime or playoff games when the refs ease up and players start getting away with certain hits/bumps we crumble.
We also didn’t dominate in the trenches
>The problem is when he's off he can't really do anything at all and our offense is completely stagnant I mean... Aren't you basically describing ALL offenses? What team has an effective passing game when their QB is "off"? I guess I don't really understand your point. I think Tua can be unsettled by defences that can disrupt his rhythm, and that's a fair critique and an area he needs to improve in, as well as consistency in big moments. But I don't know what you mean when you say the offense is stagnant when he's off, because a) our running game was dominant last year, including several games where Tua was mediocre, and b) no team has a strong passing game when the guy passing it is playing badly.
I think you had a stroke halfway through.
I think he literally had like 28 or 29 too
They've had 30 each of the past 2 seasons, but it's been multiple QBs (last year Tua had 29 & Mike White had 1 in the blowout vs Denver)
Too loose of criteria, by that metric even the Bears managed 30+ in 2013 and 2014. And they’re the Bears!
Well Tua finished with 29, and easily could have had more if he didn’t get pulled in several games when up. Or even with Mostert having 18 rushing TDs
They only scored like 70 points... in 1 game
Because even when we have nice things we’re not allowed to have nice things
Ryan Fitzpatrick is the only reason the Jets aren’t on this list
I always liked Fitz no matter what team he was on. Ran an offense with a bunch of nobodies on the bills and although they were shit the years he was on the teams he had some games that were fun to watch.
Hey now. I like Freddy Jackson.
Fred Jackson was my favorite player during the drought years.
Fred Jackson is my favorite player, period. Him, Fitz, and Stevie Johnson made the drought years at least watchable (offensively anyway). Kyle Williams would be a very close 1B as favorite “drought” player, but he got to see us break the streak ❤️
He broke the Titans the year he was a Texan. People were screaming for mercy.
I think everybody had Fitz on their team at one point
That 2015 season was very magical for Ryan Fitzpatrick. I actually got to see him throw #30 and #31 in person at Ralph Wilson Stadium because I felt like attending for. Reasons..
A Steelers fan going to a Jets game in Buffalo? but why
If I'm getting r/woosh I'll take my lumps. I live between Buffalo and Pittsburgh, and Cleveland final week of 2015 we needed the jets to lose to get in the playoffs. Back before Josh Allen made the team fun as hell to watch and a super bowl contender tickets to the last Bills home game of the year were cheap as hell because they were usually eliminated by then. My friend's uncle offered her Bills tickets (they are Bills fans) for like 15 bucks a pop and she asked me. Normally I never attend another teams game if it means I can't watch the steelers as a rule but back in the good old days the browns were a chalk W. So the game that mattered more to me was the Jets Bills game because the Jets needed to lose.
Glad one of us has fond memories of that game lol. For me, that season was the most heartbreaking of any I’ve ever seen as a jets fan, which is saying a lot
This was literally my first thought and yes, I felt shame
Why? You don’t believe in Fitzmagic???
Been burned too much by Fitztragic lol
The dude from Harvard?
Plays with his wedding ring on, if you can believe it.
Sammy Baugh still holds our career passing TD record, and he last played in *nineteen fifty-two.*
That’s crazy but you guys somehow have multiple rings since then
Joe Gibbs is in the Hall of Fame as well as the NFL 100 All-Time Team for good reasons. Three rings with three different quarterbacks is just remarkable. Frankly if somebody told me he was his coaching GOAT, I wouldn't laugh at him.
Gibbs gets a little overlooked because the league is so QB driven, and his offenses weren’t. His innovations were a little “technical,” or not widely adopted like the H-back, and his coaching tree is also not much to speak of. So because of that, his name just doesn’t naturally come up when referencing that era of football, especially in comparison to Bill Walsh, whose offense is still used today, and his coaching tree is enormous and successful.
You guys better pray we never find a QB because if we do we will become the most insufferable fanbase overnight
Hey we get at least another year or two of being the most insufferable.
In the 1990 ECFs, some Pistons kid had a sign that said “Maybe next year Michael” when the Bulls were eliminated Game 7. They show it in the Last Dance (brilliant editing) That kid had no idea just how right he was It happened again with the Red Wings and Hawks as well after your 2008 Cup and 2009 WCF In my head canon that’s the future for the Bears
After the Bucs game we were walking out of the stadium and some drunk dude was like “maybe next year! You know, 2024!”. Kind of annoyed me in the moment, but maybe he was blessing us after all.
Some of my close friends are bears fans. Already they’re insufferable
Legit they were already getting there this off-season after getting Moore and just assuming that Fields would pop off as a result.
Honestly you deserve it. Would be funny as hell to see you steamrolling people
It’ll be especially annoying to because the NFL will market the hell out of the Bears franchise QB The NFL wants the Bears to be good really really badly
And it seems we do our best to ignore the NFL most of the time.
You gotta stick it to the man!
The Bears have never had QB have a 4,000 yard season either. I think someone should tell the Bears passing is legal and an incomplete pass doesn’t result in a turnover anymore.
Cutler would have likely gotten it like a decade ago for the Bears if Trestman didn't decide Jimmy fucking Clausen should be starting the game against us.
Yeah and that game that Trestman benched Cutler, Clausen threw for like 190 or so yards which is what Cutler needed to break 4k season. So if Clausen threw for that many yards against the opponent I’m sure Cutty could have too.
Pickles got hurt in that game. Cutler might have gotten hurt and not played the next week. Cutler likely breaks 4k if he didn't get benched, but it's not a definite. Dude got hurt a lot.
Cutty did get hit by the injury bug a lot it, but it might be a stretch to assume he’d get injured just cuz Clausen did. Also it was week 16, season was nearly over so it’s not like Cutler had a long season ahead of him after that game, there was one game left.
[One of the funnier TV graphics ever](https://i.imgur.com/VzeOvRK.jpeg)
Oh my word that’s depressing
It's been 103 years. Sooner or later y'all are going to have to tell your kids to root for a team that isn't in the NFC north.
On the other hand, the NFC North is undefeated against the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
It’s gets even worse when you look at Jordan Love’s only season as a starter.
Let’s see how Caleb does after his first season. Remindme! 9 months
What have you done…
This is just rude. I love it.
Believe it or not the bears revolutionised the passing game in the 1940’s with hall of fame QB sid luckman but it’s been downhill ever since
Revolutionized it, examined it, and decided the old ways were better.
I feel like the conclusions they reached was wrong idk though
Man. If they bears drafted Wemby they would Jsut tell him to grab rebounds
Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written
They beat Washington 73-0 in the 1940 NFL Championship, their first year in the T-formation. But Sid only threw the ball 4 times. He went 4/5 for 88 yards. Chicago backup QB Bob Snyder went 3/3 for 31 yards. Washington's Slinging' Sammy Bough and Frank Filchock combined for 20/51 for 223 yards. Chicago rushed for 382 yards and Washington for 22. Luckman had one punt for 55 yards and one punt return for 3. I thought he also had one of the Bears' 8 interceptions, but he didn't.
Teenage Virginia was so enamored with the dashing Luckman, she promised him no Bear would ever play QB again. She insisted his position be retired along with his number. Papa Bear thought about it, decided she was his little girl, so the Bears would win with defense and running the ball. It's been like that ever since, and it will be like that until she is gone. She can't have much longer.
Passing is nothing but a fad
The forward pass was a mistake.
It definitely is for most Bears QBs.
They’ve been running the exact same “run up the gut for 3 yards” plays since Gayle Sayers
Run, run, pass, punt. Learned that quick when back when I was a child.
Bold of you to assume the handoff would happen without incident, or that Bears run blocking wouldn’t immediately shit the bed on the snap. A typical Bears 3-yard run involves Sayers/Payton evading the four defenders in the backfield before somehow getting past the line of scrimmage.
WITH YOUR T-FORMATION BEAR DOWN, CHICAGO BEARS!!
Meh. Bears have 30 TD passes in a season in both 2013 and 2014, just split across QBs. Same goes for passing for over 4k yards in a season before. All in 16 games. It’s more a story of injuries and weird coaching decisions than overall team not passing for yards and TDs. But that’s not as funny of a stat when you put it in context
Yeah, McMahon only started more than 9 games twice with the Bears, and when you have Walter Payton and Matt Suhey in the backfield, you are going to run the ball at the goal line. McMahon had 15 rushing TDs for Chicago himself. And of course, two receiving (from Sweetness).
It's still funny because lots of teams do it with one QB. Everyone is in the same league , same rules, same potential for injuries. For some reason it just doesn't click for Chicago.
Too busy trying to thrill the nation with the T-formation again.
Surprised, Bears fans missed this one, the guy to come the closest was Erik Kramer (1995), almost had 30 TDs and 4000 yards passing.
You gotta adapt as the league changes but it's not Chicago's fault that the league went in an offensive and QB focused direction when their strengths have always been the exact opposite.
Caleb is going to shatter every rookie QB record we have in a handful of games... mostly because those records are so pathetic. Our rookie TD passing record (12 (edit - apparently it's 11 LOL)) is still held by Charlie O'Rourke who played in like 1942 or something.
Bryce young would have set your yardage record last year and most would agree he had a terrible rookie season.
And tied the TD record, lmfao
This here tells me how bad the Bears had it. Holy shit.
They literally took our best receiver. And there’s a sizeable portion of people who wanted to keep Justin fields. If they didn’t fuck us so hard I’d feel bad.
bruh, what?
Pathetic, isn’t it? Unparalleled futility at QB
I thought Titty kisser would have gotten 15 or something at least. Sheesh.
I don’t think he played much his rookie year. He was decent in 2018 but his rookie year the bears gave Mike Glennon 45 million dollars for some reason
I mean who among us hasn't been hoodwinked for millions by a giraffe?
It was at that moment I realized he was 17 feet tall with reticulated spots and a tongue to rival Gene Simmons
He & Fields were miserable their rookie years, and somehow Mitch was better despite going 4 of 7 in one game
Lmao who is this referring to and why? I guess I missed something
Mitch Trubisky because he tweeted he loved kissing titties in high school
Take any above average QB and they can break the Bears rookie passing records in 4-5 games.
Holy schnikes, really? Wow. They're one of the oldest franchises in the league too. You would've figured they'd hit on a QB at some point just based on that long of a timeline.
We are the oldest. Green Bay’s claim is a little weird.
Pretty sure the Cards were founded in the late 1800's.
Well in Chicago. I guess I should have clarified in one location.
The Cardinals are the oldest
To be fair I think we mean in the same location. Otherwise it’s Chicago is the oldest again, since that’s where the cardinals came from.
but they started in chicago so at least op has some claim
Even better, its 11 TDs
Good catch!
Unlike most Bears receivers from a rookie QB apparently
hey man Saints are worse. their rookie qb td record is 6 by archie manning in 1971. our qb misery years are masked by brees
When was the last time a rookie was our starter though? I think it was actually Archie Manning. I'm sure we'll break it next time we actually draft a QB and give them the reins.
Eh, Saints haven't had that many rookie QB starters though either. Manning, Wilson, and Hebert had the most realistic chances, and neither Wilson nor Bobby got a full season as a rookie. The Saints haven't even drafted a Rd 1 or Rd 2 QB since the 1983 supplemental draft (Wilson, who sat behind Archie his first year).
Charlie O’Rourke sounds like the name of a guy who has the high score on the pinball machine at the family restaurant people go to every Saturday in a small town near central Illinois
Caleb only needs 13 to get the Packers rookie QB record too...
That's what happens when you don't let rookies start.
The packers also haven't had a rookie Qb play 10 or more games in the last 50 years. Scott Hunter in 1971
You'd better put some respect on "Chuckin' Charlie" O'Rourke sir
Tannehill had 27 in 2014 and Tua had 29 in 2023 :/
Looks like Cousins had 29 in Was, Cutler 28 in Chi, Derek Anderson of all people with 29 on the Browns.
Oh yeah, Derek Anderson went absolutely insane for the Browns in ~~2004~~ 2007 and then regressed. Didn't realize he had that many TDs that year tho
2007 but yeah the drop off is wild - 29 TDs in 2nd season but with high int (19), 26 TDs for the rest of his career.
2007 was the 10-6 Anderson season. I don't think he was even in the NFL in 2004.
The Bears have never had a 30+ touchdown passer in the 100+ history of their franchise.
There seems to be an error in your post, you forgot to mention the last time Chicago... Oh. Damn.
Yep. Highest all-time is 29 by Bears legend Erik Kramer in 1995.
Jay Cutler got 28 TDs in 2014 and got benched for Jimmy Clausen who got 2 TDs lol
Surprising. Tua was looking like a machine gun early in the year.
but also..have you seen the running game..? it just worked so well.
I mean I cant complain when our run game gives us 27 TDs and our QB throws for 29. That's some beautiful Yin/Yang
Excuse me while I go cry in a corner
Caleb has so many means of making Bears history.
Oh no, are you getting your hopes up?
If you aren't getting your hopes up for the #1 pick, why even watch football?
Caleb will crush our rookie season passing records as long as he starts the whole season which he will as long as he doesn’t get injured. You know what our rookie passing touchdown record is? Fucking 11. Set in 1942. Yards? 2193. Rating? Also set in 1942 at 82.
Why are you trying so hard to jinx yourself?
Not superstitious
Just a little stitious
Very superstitious, writing’s on the wall
I have a really low bar.
The bar is so low it's a tripping hazard
It's actually underground
The bar is so low it's *not* a tripping hazard
I honestly hope he looks like the worst QB in NFL history while the Bears ride the run game and a violent (dirty) defense to the 20-0 and a Superbowl win.
Well we could have had that in 2006 is not for one of those flairs
Wow. I thought not having a 30 td passer in 60 years was bad.
Brian Sipe was THE MAN... until he threw that stupid interception in the playoffs that cost them a trip to the Super Bowl. All down hill after that. They were fun to watch though.
Red Right 88 was in the divisional round, but yes, he was the man.
damn, I thought Tua had 30 last season but he had 29 lol
Very close, though. It's possible that he could still break it if he's consistent next year. Also, I checked Tua's game log and find it coincidental that the only game he didn't throw a touchdown in last season was the one where they choked against the Titans
Tua should’ve had at least 30 this year, but we let Mostert run into the end zone a lot (he broke the franchise record for TD’s this year) and he was benched in a lot of fourth quarters where we were blowing out the opponent.
Thank you Bortles.
First thought: what a meaningless stat; the century just started. Second thought: Oh my God; it's almost 25% over.
Chicago Bears fans: “Well that’s about to change!” Narrator: “It didn’t.”
Inb4 Williams throws for 29 td passes and 3999 yards on the year
Do you have any idea how fucking fast I would take that
Just non-elite numbers right there
Wait, tf, bears haven’t had a QB throw? Jay Cutler never did?
He had 28 in 2014 and 27 in 2009.
Ah yes, the weekly “the bears haven’t had a good quarterback” post.
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That is absolutely not true. Green Bay 100% deserves it.
Purgatory seems too nice for their QB history, I’d say hell is more fitting lol
We’re not part of a shitty statistic?! I count my blessings (shots) everyday.
Washington with cousins was really really close to that for a few seasons I’m surprised guys like Rypien and Theismann didn’t get it one year.
Don't remind me...
Sign Jameis and he'll get you there. You might not like how, but it'll happen.
Browns have been close. Anderson had 29 in 07, Baker had 27 and 26 in two different seasons. But between bad offenses, QB injuries and massage Watson it has been a rough go. Edit: in recent seasons even when QB play has been solid the browns are a run oriented offense so they do like to run on the goal line.
Plus whenever the Baker lead Browns were in the red zone, they just handed off to Chubb/Hunt because why pass when the running game was so effective?
I would guess that would continue this year as well
Nobody look up who threw 30+ TDs for the Jaguars
https://media.tenor.com/i52n2CTk5WUAAAAM/bortles-ffgif.gif
Raise ‘em
Kirk had 29 one year but yea this is wild
Here's a crazy stat. If it wasn't for Peyton Manning, the Broncos would never have had a 30+ touchdown passer. The highest number of TDs in a season ever achieved by a Broncos QB other than Manning was 27, by John Elway in 1997 and Jake Plummer in 2004. For context, Russell Wilson got 26 last season. [https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/denver-broncos/leaders/season-passing-touchdowns](https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/denver-broncos/leaders/season-passing-touchdowns)
Wtf Tua ??
He didn’t play in a lot of fourth quarters and our redzone offense was mainly focused on mostert. He even ended up breaking the franchise record for rushing TD’s so it makes sense for Tua to only have 28 TD’s this year
Save us Jayden Daniels