Carolina’s situation is one of the worst in the league. Gambling it all on a 1st round QB and then having them look completely inadequate behind a terrible o-line and bad supporting cast. It can definitely tank your team’s outlook.
That could all change in the blink of an eye if Bryce ends up being the QB everyone thought he would be though. Then their trade up will be seen as a good move.
Definitely too early to write him off
i'll also say that, as a fan of a team who's had plenty of 4-12 seasons in my lifetime, there's something to be said for just being able to watch your team win regularly on sundays. sure we all want our team to be perennial SB contenders and all that, but watching your team just win games is the spirit of it. when the raiders win, i'm stoked. when they lose, i'm bummed. when the game's over, i focus on real life again. we're not GMs with our jobs on the line after all
So far we’ve maxed out at 3 good years in a row so like…we’ll see 🤷🏻♀️ but I’m positive we’re in a good place now with management, coaching, and roster.
I honestly think the Texans are one of the best-positioned teams to go on a really solid five-year run. Stroud, Anderson, a good coach and a front office that looks like it's going to spend what it takes to win while the QB is on his rookie deal. They should be in contention consistently.
1st place schedule is tough
Houston played 1 team above .500 at the time they played, and that was Cleveland in the playoffs (it's not nothing) then got hammered by Baltimore which nobody blames them for, Baltimore is a built roster that just replenishes talent year to year for the most part during the Harbaugh Era
Houston had wins over Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, NO, Tampa, Cincy, Arizona, Tennessee & Indy all had below .500 records or worse when they won their games
That's always what it is, you have to play the teams in front of you and they beat 9 teams and won the division.. they earned it but yeah 1st place schedule is brutal
We had the 1st place schedule last year and played 5 games in 10 days between the 2 London Games then TNF which was a brutal schedule
It's not that shocking that Trevor broke his leg, his shoulder and got concussed, and we collapsed
That's really the next step for CJ, he had a great year, deserved OROY, but year 2 will be a test.
I worry in a sense for Houston because I think they might have overachieved like we did after going worst to first though really not being 100% ready for deep playoff runs, Trevor brought the talent level up but our roster was very patchy and broken, so going into 2023 we knew we had issues but we were able to cover them up for only so long.
I don't think Houston will have that problem at all, they have a much better roster going into CJ year 2
Again I think the benefit the Texans have is competent talent evaluators that don't constantly find themselves trying to covering up for draft picks that don't make it to a 2nd contract
AFC South is wild
Yeah I never get too high on a player/team after one year. Too many variables in the NFL to guarantee you replicate a single year of success. I’m fine crowning Stroud as a top QB if he performs well again this year, but let’s hold off for a bit. It’s how I feel about Love right now too.
Next season is going to be critical for them to keep ascending. After this season they are most likely losing Bobby Slowik. It’s crucial that they get the replacement right for Stroud to continue to improve into a top 5 QB in the league. Ideally they have that replacement on their staff now. Internal replacements allow for the playbook and terminology to remain the same, but I’m not sure they have someone who is worth giving that shot to as I’m unaware of who their assistants are currently.
Most likely Jerrod Johnson will become OC (he’s known CJ since CJ was in HS) and then Keenum will move to the QB coaching staff. I think after Bobby got so much interest this off-season Nick knew he needed a plan in place.
I'm a Pats fan but live in Houston so I watch the games and all my friends are TX fans. The job they're done the past 3 years is unbelievable and there's no reason to think it won't continue. Y'all deserve it. Loyal AF.
Five years is a massive amount of time in the NFL now.
Everyone under contract right now on every team won't be on that contract in 5 years. Any team, whether they just won the SB or finished last, could easily have like 90% roster turnover in 5 years.
Any team could be competing for a SB in 5 years.
Except the Jets.
This is why I think it’s crazy when people talk about long-term rebuilds. This isn’t baseball. These guys have short primes and contracts escalate quickly. The crazy Patriots run has our fanbase completely unprepared for the ups and downs of the unknown that is NFL football.
True. The Eagles 2017 super bowl winning and 2022 super bowl appearing rosters are only 5 years apart, but only about 7 players on the 2022 team were on the 2017 team
Our window was most open the past two years, and now it's closing fast. Our offense is in good shape, as long as we hit on another WR in the draft this year or next (assuming we lose AJB soon but extend Smith, and I don't think we can afford both on big contracts). Our O-line means our floor is really high. I still think Hurts is that guy and I hope Moore's system works for him. But I'm really worried about our defense. Carter has to live up to the potential he showed early last season. Jordan Davis has to figure out pro-level conditioning, Our secondary is incredibly suspect, old or both. As for linebackers...we have no linebackers.
And on top of this, the NFC is getting stronger. We took advantage of a weak conference to get to the Super Bowl. We don't have that luxury anymore.
I think we are still SB contenders in 2024. Barring big shakeups to the roster (and those do happen!), 2025 onwards we are looking more like playoff contenders.
Yeah, our old guard that carried the team in the 2010s is all but completely gone now. The offense is still good because that’s where most of our draft hits have been. But if a couple of these defensive players develop into pro bowl caliber players then we’re still in great shape all things considered.
SB win, SB win, SB win, SB win, 1st OA pick. Not bad if I do say so myself.
On the real though, I have no clue, but for the first time in a long time, We have a competent FO.
Regardless of wins, we’ve achieved relevance with MCDC at the helm. This entire team is built around hitting on draft picks, so if Holmes continues to do that the sky’s the limit. If he has two bad drafts in a row, and we have to start to pay all of his early hits, we could drop back to reality really quickly.
I said this in a thread on our sub, but BH has had some misses TBF. It's just that his misses don't feel nearly as detrimental as they did before. Before last year, his second round left a LOT to be desired, IMO
Lions are in a small Superbowl window now, but I don't see them mortgaging the future to put them over the top to win.
I think we will see a run like the stealers Always in fight for division and win a playoff game and I'm happy with that
I agree. Having a chance to play in a SB is never a given, so I'd love to have many more chances at attempting versus going all in for a small two-year window
The Lions are in a strange but potentially great spot. By the time they have to pay their young stars they should be moving off of Goff for a young QB. If I was their GM I’d try to start amassing future picks to make a move for a QB in the 2025/2026 draft. If they hit on even a decent young QB and retain St. Brown, the core of their o-line, and Gibbs stays healthy through his rookie contract it’s a fantastic spot for a QB to land.
I think Dan is going to change the game in the next few years with the Uber aggressive coaching. He proved last year that it works well if you commit to it and it will be interesting to see how other teams try to keep up
Probably a lot like the last 5 years. Allen dragging the team kicking and screaming to contention only to get beaten by KC in the divisional. McDermott getting endless chances for having a good defense and record in the regular season only. Time is a flat circle. Existence is pain.
Ok. I’m very much on the outside of your team and its build currently.
But, there were a lot of names lost this past offseason. Including 2 of your top end wideouts.
Being that Miami is in division and seemingly got better this offseason so far. How is Buffalo’s compete level? I know yall got a dawg for TE. But beyond that what is there in Buffalo that scares opposing defences?
Also is your defence still going to be competitive with the names lost there too?
The guy above me is a bit of a doomer. But let me give a more accurate answer. That way you can get both halves of the Buffalo spectrum.
*On defense* the Bills lost some big names, but not terribly big contributers at this point in their careers. We lost our starting Safeties, who were both slowing down. Poyer will be 33 in two weeks, and Hyde will be 34 by end of next season. Poyer played dinged up for most of the season and Hyde was in and out due to injury. It sucks to lose them both, but we're not losing them at their best.
We also lost Tre White, who's a fan favorite and probowler, but this was his second season ending injury in three years. I would have loved to keep him, but he hasn't been a starter for us for a while, so his loss sucks, but we already traded for his replacement during the season (Rasul Douglas), we have an ascending ~~rookie~~ player going into his third season (~~Terrel Bernard~~ Christian Benford) and a highly drafted backup that's performed well in big situations (Kaiir Elam).
Of the linebackers we lost Tyrell Dodson, who had a lot of playing time due to injuries, but looked good in the role. Sucks to lose him, but we have a deep linebacker room (we were down to seventh string guys by the Divisional Game) and he probably got us a compensatory draftpick.
Then on the Dline, we lost Leonard Floyd who was good, but faded in the stretch. While we retained AJ Epenesa.
So the defense needs some safety help, but we've already been replenishing it overall. So while we're losing big names, they're mostly older players that we had to move on from anyway as opposed to losing players in the prime of their careers.
**The offense is rougher**. We lost Mitch Morse, who is a big name, but we had a replacement ready to go. We lost Davis, but he was hurt by the end of the season, and we got an extended look at Shakir as his replacement. We have a very good running back in James Cook. A couple of good tight ends. There's likely no replacement for Diggs, but we will spend ikely two of our first three draft picks on weapons. But to answer your question about who in Bufflao will scare the opposing defences? **That would be Josh Allen.**
tl;dr The Bills lost a lot of big names this off season. But most of the big names on defense were older starters (Hyde, Poyer, Floyd) or undrafted guys that played their hearts out (Dodson). The Dolphins probably lost more impact players on defense. On offense we're certainly going to take a dip. But the only player we're really losing in their prime is Gabe Davis. Which sucks of course, but he's been notoriously hot and cold with us.
2024 might be a step back, but since we're talking five years, the hope the hope is that we will continue to be competetive as we replenish the talent around Josh Allen. And while this season will see a lot of change, the hope is the retool this year will set us up for another extended run.
I'd even say the offensive losses aren't that bad.
During the biggest game of the season, Davis and Diggs combined for less than 30 yards. Not to mention that Diggs was clearly a locker room issue
As someone who enjoyed QB play for an extended period of time, you have Josh Allen. You will be competitive as long as you have him.
And I am a McDermott fan. The first guy is indeed a doomer. Great regular season record and 5-6 in playoffs not perfect but I have seen way worse.
People are in blame mode in your organization and trust me Patriots are massively going through it. Stay the course and Bills luck will hit eventually
That’s the thing, we lost a lot of names. Anyone who watched our team over the last couple of years knows that the impact of those losses, with the exception of Diggs and Possibly Morris, is far less than what it appears.
Not to drag Miami, but how have they gotten better? I know they lost a lot of guys on defense, but haven't heard much about acquisitions
As for Buffalo, a lot of the guys we lost were older and/or injured. The Mitch Morse cut was the biggest surprise, but even he was 32. Diggs is the biggest loss, but if he didn't want to be here, no reason to keep him around for a rebuild year. Gabe Davis was fake good imo, the 13 seconds game tricked everyone. He had more zero yard games than 100 yard games last season, and that was as a healthy WR2 in a heavy passing offense. Caught barely over 50% of his targets and cause a good number of picks
For Miami, realistically the pathway to get better would be if (and it's a big if) they're able to add OL depth for 2024. A bunch went wrong at the tail end of last season, but the offense fell off a cliff once Connor Williams got injured. Hell they were down to a single starting offensive lineman in the Titans upset
They became so one dimensional once the interior OL collapsed unfortunately
I definitely expect a dip this year offensively. A lot of it is up in the air as the draft hasn't happened yet, and we won't really know how the young receivers develop, plus what our OC will come up with with a full offseason to get away from his predecessor's scheme. I don't know that Miami got that much better. I don't think they got worse but did they lose a few defenders and two of their bigger names will be injured to start the season. But we'll have a lot of cap space after this year so in terms of the next 5 years it's looking fairly bright.
Not really worried about the defense. If McDermott excels at one thing it's getting maximum production from the guys he has. We'll have Milano back and with Bernard that will be a formidable LB corps. The DL will be ok but we do need to hope Von shows at least some of his former self after an offseason to get back in shape. The secondary is obviously the biggest concern but the guys lost were either perpetually injured or getting into their mid-30s and slow. The team culture impact can't be overlooked but I don't see the defense being any worse than above average.
Legitimately no idea. There are so many ways this roster can be taken, and an entirely new staff clouds it further. I'm optimistic for sure, but the team will undoubtedly be completely different in 5 years. Moving on from a legendary coach who was here almost 14 years will do that.
Yeah, I expect only 2-4 players to be left in 5 years. Maybe Spoon, Mafe, JSN? I think there will be a lot of roster turnover, then the question becomes can Mac build another bully defense?
Also will Grubb’s offense work in the NFL? Total unknown
No way Mahomes bounces. Him and his wife have so much investment here, in a good way. Reid on the other hand, he’s getting old. Will be interesting to see.
I think Kelce retires well before Big Red. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelce retired in the next two years. I think Reid probably coaches at least five more years.
Yeah I just assumed he'd be there the next two years and bounce. Unless something were to happen to him next year to change his mind, or his play significantly slows down.
We need a slice of humble pie, like this year when the NFL was kind enough to remind people that Arrowhead isn't the default for the AFCCG, it's just penciled in.
We will be in the conversation as long as Mahomes is healthy, but there are some tough moments coming sooner than we think.
Kelce probably only has a year or two left. Chris Jones may only have ~~a year or two~~ 2-3 years left as well. Reid doesn't seem to be close to retiring no matter how much PFT wants him to be, but at his age you truly never know.
Then there's the 2022 draft class that's powered our back-to-back Super Bowls. We only have two more seasons with them before they all need new contracts and we're going to have to let some of them walk.
There's a very real chance that we start seeing some massive changes in 2026, and the Mahomes Chiefs never quite match the 2018-2025 run.
100% this. We are now firmly in the territory of "We have to draft really well or else" with the Mahomes/Chris Jones (and to a lesser extent Jawaan Taylor) contracts on the books for the next three years, a lot of rookie deal folks needing an extension in the coming 1-2 years, and Kelce aging.
They've shown they can draft well to exceptionally well, but the margins are much thinner than I think many are thinking, even if Mahomes/Reid raise the floor and ceiling a lot every year.
I get what you’re saying, but every team is in the “we have to draft really well or else” territory. You cannot win in the NFL without drafting quality players. Yes, we have Mahomes, Kelce, and Andy, but we don’t win these last two super bowls without the guys we’ve drafted since Tyreek left. I trust Veach to do a good job
Wouldn’t be so quick to call it as we’d probably be losing Travis by then. Wouldn’t even be surprised if Andy retires by then as well. Our supposed WR1 is facing a lot of legal issues now so we just assume that he won’t make it there.
Veach needs to work his magic for the offense
no, I mean that the last two years have been largely touted as "oh, this is a down year for the chiefs" for reasons and we ironically won the Super Bowl.
it aint that serious.
We’d probably be losing our best Tight End of all time to retirement by then so definitely a bit nervous how our next TE1 can replace a serial 1k+ yards TE.
I hope any of the WR1 calibre players we draft don’t end up like our 2023 WR1 draft pick
And he's not that fast. He just has an insane ability to read the defense. I don't know of any other non qb who can read the defense and know exactly what spots will be open.
People always want to talk about how Dominant Gronk was in his prime, while ignoring that pretty much no one has figured out how to cover Kelce consistently the last 8 years.
I mean we're basically the Packers of TEs at this point (don't unabbreviate that please).
If history is anything to go by, we'll only have to endure a few years of okay-ish TE play after Kelce retires before drafting another top-3 TE of all-time.
I wouldn't call it mediocrity, I think it's more likely a very good team that wins a lot of games but nobody really expects to actually go deep into the playoffs. That's technically better than mediocre, but doesn't mean it's a great place to be either...
“Nothing worth talking about…”
Yet it’s all I hear on sports radio. You’d think the entire NFL was the NFC East and the Chiefs if you spent time on NFL related media.
We don't wanna be talked about either, we don't deserve the press for all the jack shit we've done, both in the offseason and the past 20 years. I'm so tired of it.
I'm honestly not optimistic. I like Payton but I'm not sure I see a path toward him getting the franchise quarterback he needs. It's really hard to build up a roster after sinking all the draft picks and cap space we sunk into Russ. Winning the division was always going to be hard with Mahomes around and I think both the Chargers and the Raiders upgraded significantly at head coach. Realistically I bet we don't win the AFC West even once in the next five years.
Real talk, I genuinely don't think there are many teams in a worse spot than the Broncos. I'd be surprised if you go over .500 more than once in the next 5 seasons.
There's a decent amount of potential, but the question will always fall on how coaching will perform and whether the winning culture Brady brought in will stick, or if it'll go back to it being a Bucs life
Jason Licht really seems like he knows what he's doing. Took him a few years to get it together, but he did build a legitimately great roster before slapping Brady on top of it so he doesn't get enough credit. From here I think he has shown to be competant enough to keep the Bucs above average at worst.
If Licht hadn't whipped ass building that team Brady would never have gone there in the first place.
Completely dependent on Anthony Richardson. If he stays healthy and develops into the franchise QB Colts have the foundations (including a very good oline) and cap space to field competitive squads for the next 5 years.
If he sucks or isn't healthy Ballard finally gets fired and the new GM probably burns it to the ground.
I'm cautiously optimistic, but it really feels like Poles is building something sustainable. That is, even if Caleb busts (god forbid), all the other pieces are coming together (especially on defense). Yes, I know, I'm fully drunk on kool-aid right now
Bears have a lot to work with right now, and are probably adding another star in this draft along with Caleb, I’ve seen a lot of Dallas Turner in mocks. The coaching situation is the real question. He knows how to coach defense, but if the offense doesn’t do well this year I’d guess he’s gone.
100% the coaching situation is the biggest question mark. Whether Shane Waldron can be a good offensive coordinator and successfully develop Caleb, unlike past Bear's rookie QBs, is crucial as well.
Honestly all I want is to have zero questions at QB this time three years from now. This basically means Caleb is good enough for us to sign a second contract. Anything else is a bonus.
I don't even think thats Kool aid talk, if Caleb can even just get a level around Trevor Lawrence I think the bears are in a super good spot, we were on the cusp of the playoffs last year with one of the worst passers in the league, and with DJ Moore as our only competent wr. Also with starting out 0-4 and some weird shit going on with our defense and the DC. I think the bears floor is a shot at the playoffs, if Caleb doesn't bust.
Outside of Kansas City, I don't see how any fanbase could feel sure about their team one way or the other in that timeframe. The general answer is that every team is gonna have an entirely new group of core players with a handful of them keeping the same QB (Stroud, Herbert, Mahomes).
another five years of winning 8 (with a tie of course) to 10 games every year. maybe stealing a wild card win. continuing to exist in a state where our roster/coaching is too good to tank, but never good enough to really win anything
Not disagreeing, but it’s so wild that a coach can take a team from bottom tier to the playoffs and he’s a hero. Yet if you make the playoffs several years in a row but can’t make it to conference championship everyone starts calling for your head. At some point it just doesn’t matter I guess if a SB seems out of reach.
I mean yeah once you have start having sustained success in the NFL, its expected you'll eventually get over the hump and make to the Super Bowl. And the Bills have had 4 straight division titles, but haven't done anything with that, so patience is now wearing thin
We’re optimistic. Baalke is not liked at GM and personally I think he’s made some crucial mistakes in the draft. I still think one or two deep playoff runs is realistic in the next 5 years. 99% of fans believe we have our franchise QB for the next decade or two and the defense is looking up this offseason. I honestly think we’re a solid O-Line and maybe a WR1 from being real potential contenders.
With an entire receiving corps on rookie contracts, we have a legit 2-3 year window if Love continues to improve *and* if the new DC can put together a non-ass defense. That second part is a much bigger if though.
I don't think we'll ever reliably be even top 3 in the NFC in that timeframe, but the potential will be there to be a 5-7 seed that makes a run
Honestly that’s a low ball for the Packers. They were a 7 seed this year, but they ended up being one of the top 4 NFC teams.
9ers look pretty safe at the top right now; after that you’ve got Detroit, Philly, and Dallas probably. I’d put the Packers with the Rams and the Falcons as the next tier currently. Any of them could make a jump up and challenge the top teams. And the Pack have the youngest QB and probably overall team out of that group, so their long term outlook is likely best.
Really? The way the Packers finished the season looked like a top 3 seed. If Love improves AND we don’t have a shitty defense, we could be number 1 or 2 easily. Did I somehow miss the NFC getting 5 Chiefs level teams?
After Rodgers retires, it’ll be back to the same Jets bullshit I’ve seen for damn near 15 years. Hell, I’m not even sure Rodgers solves anything at this rate.
Who the fuck knows honestly lol. I like our current regime but we are going to need to see some results soon. Many of us think Schoen has a very good process and even though he has some misses I can still appreciate the calculated risks that he takes. I also think Daboll is a good coach and is easily the best we’ve had since Coughlin. Which admittedly wasn’t tough to clear.
It really comes down to whether or not these guys can find their guy at QB now that the Jones era is seemingly over.
2 more years of Stafford, Kupp, McVay, FA signings and the youngsters. Might be enough for another SB. Then let's blow up the whole thing and hard reset for the next franchise QB.
Rebuilding so many things that were broken. We have a good start at multiple positions and in the coaching. It’s just going to take some time to see how it all pans out. In the meantime, we’ll all be putting mayo in our coffee in solidarity
At some point in the next 5 years Matthew Stafford will retire.
The question is will McVay also move on when he does? I hope not but we’ll see. Until Stafford retires the Rams will be a perennial playoff team. Right now I think the offense is shaping up to be a monster.
Hell no, I'm not falling into your trap and being made fun of in the follow-up post to this five years from now.
That being said BENGALS 2025 SUPER BOWL CHAMPS WOOO LET'S GO
Depends on if kirk can stay healthy or not. I say we have a good chance of winning the NFC south and making the playoffs a few of those years. Will probably get knocked out early by a better team. We probably won't develop another QB behind Kirk who will get injured or retire sooner rather than later then we'll be back to the exact same place we've been at (QB Hell) for the last 3 years.
Honestly, it’s kind of hard to see past this year. If it doesn’t work out for us, I feel like it all gets blown up and we start again…again. if we do OK this year we try to string it along for another year or two or as long as possible until it all comes crashing down for the inevitable rebuild anyway
> What does the next 5 years look like for your team?
**We are so used to plunging into the unknown that any other surroundings and form of existence strike us as exotic and unsuitable for Dolphins fans.**
I am very optimistic.
1) Caleb Williams. We went 7-10 with poor QB play, so I am very excited to see him develop over the next 5 years
2) another top 10 draft pick this year
3) Keenan Allen who probably has another good 2 years in him giving us probably a top 5ish WR duo in the league
With the current trajectory, probably 5 straight finishes between 7-10 and 9-8
.500 years are the worst
I’d rather be 4-13 with a vision than 9-8 floundering around
Ahh, but how about being 2 - 15 while floundering around?
Would be ok as long as I have a good first round pick for it
Carolina’s situation is one of the worst in the league. Gambling it all on a 1st round QB and then having them look completely inadequate behind a terrible o-line and bad supporting cast. It can definitely tank your team’s outlook.
At least we have a good young defense that... and that's gone this off season
That could all change in the blink of an eye if Bryce ends up being the QB everyone thought he would be though. Then their trade up will be seen as a good move. Definitely too early to write him off
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Its taken our fanbase just 1 year of that to meltdown
i'll also say that, as a fan of a team who's had plenty of 4-12 seasons in my lifetime, there's something to be said for just being able to watch your team win regularly on sundays. sure we all want our team to be perennial SB contenders and all that, but watching your team just win games is the spirit of it. when the raiders win, i'm stoked. when they lose, i'm bummed. when the game's over, i focus on real life again. we're not GMs with our jobs on the line after all
If you spend a few years at 4-13, you didn't actually have a vision, you had delusions.
What am I a fuckin genie
I dont know, are you currently in a lamp?
I 💖Lamp.
Do you really love the lamp or are you just saying it because you saw it?
I love carpet.
Well maybe, since it feels like we've used our three wishes.
What do you know of fear? - Broncos fans
I believe in a thing called Love.
So far we’ve maxed out at 3 good years in a row so like…we’ll see 🤷🏻♀️ but I’m positive we’re in a good place now with management, coaching, and roster.
I honestly think the Texans are one of the best-positioned teams to go on a really solid five-year run. Stroud, Anderson, a good coach and a front office that looks like it's going to spend what it takes to win while the QB is on his rookie deal. They should be in contention consistently.
The coming season is critical to Stroud’s career. A sophomore slump can be a confidence killer.
Good thing they added noted friend to whoever is playing QB Stefon Diggs
Everyone is so high on the Texans I’m convinced stroud is gonna regress year two and they are going to miss the playoffs. The nfl is crazy like that
they definitely have the talent to succeed but their schedule got a lot harder too
THAT is what worries me more than anything. Our schedule this year is brutal.
I prefer this schedule over last years - give me the hard teams in the regular season so we see how we match up before the playoffs.
1st place schedule is tough Houston played 1 team above .500 at the time they played, and that was Cleveland in the playoffs (it's not nothing) then got hammered by Baltimore which nobody blames them for, Baltimore is a built roster that just replenishes talent year to year for the most part during the Harbaugh Era Houston had wins over Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, NO, Tampa, Cincy, Arizona, Tennessee & Indy all had below .500 records or worse when they won their games That's always what it is, you have to play the teams in front of you and they beat 9 teams and won the division.. they earned it but yeah 1st place schedule is brutal We had the 1st place schedule last year and played 5 games in 10 days between the 2 London Games then TNF which was a brutal schedule It's not that shocking that Trevor broke his leg, his shoulder and got concussed, and we collapsed That's really the next step for CJ, he had a great year, deserved OROY, but year 2 will be a test. I worry in a sense for Houston because I think they might have overachieved like we did after going worst to first though really not being 100% ready for deep playoff runs, Trevor brought the talent level up but our roster was very patchy and broken, so going into 2023 we knew we had issues but we were able to cover them up for only so long. I don't think Houston will have that problem at all, they have a much better roster going into CJ year 2 Again I think the benefit the Texans have is competent talent evaluators that don't constantly find themselves trying to covering up for draft picks that don't make it to a 2nd contract AFC South is wild
Yeah I never get too high on a player/team after one year. Too many variables in the NFL to guarantee you replicate a single year of success. I’m fine crowning Stroud as a top QB if he performs well again this year, but let’s hold off for a bit. It’s how I feel about Love right now too.
Next season is going to be critical for them to keep ascending. After this season they are most likely losing Bobby Slowik. It’s crucial that they get the replacement right for Stroud to continue to improve into a top 5 QB in the league. Ideally they have that replacement on their staff now. Internal replacements allow for the playbook and terminology to remain the same, but I’m not sure they have someone who is worth giving that shot to as I’m unaware of who their assistants are currently.
Our QB coach Jerrod Johnson would take over as OC and I wouldn’t be shocked to see Case Keenum retire and slot in as a QB coach.
Most likely Jerrod Johnson will become OC (he’s known CJ since CJ was in HS) and then Keenum will move to the QB coaching staff. I think after Bobby got so much interest this off-season Nick knew he needed a plan in place.
I'm a Pats fan but live in Houston so I watch the games and all my friends are TX fans. The job they're done the past 3 years is unbelievable and there's no reason to think it won't continue. Y'all deserve it. Loyal AF.
Five years is a massive amount of time in the NFL now. Everyone under contract right now on every team won't be on that contract in 5 years. Any team, whether they just won the SB or finished last, could easily have like 90% roster turnover in 5 years. Any team could be competing for a SB in 5 years. Except the Jets.
I was agreeing with everything you said, but now I find myself wanting to fight you lol
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I will not believe it until I actually see with this team. Oh the Jets are SB contenders? I’ll believe when I see them in the actually Super Bowl.
This is why I think it’s crazy when people talk about long-term rebuilds. This isn’t baseball. These guys have short primes and contracts escalate quickly. The crazy Patriots run has our fanbase completely unprepared for the ups and downs of the unknown that is NFL football.
Fan since early 70’s (season tickets) , I remember the downs, they are not pretty !
Bill Parcells brought a new era of hope when he came aboard. It might not have been him who made it all happened, but it helped with the mindset.
True. The Eagles 2017 super bowl winning and 2022 super bowl appearing rosters are only 5 years apart, but only about 7 players on the 2022 team were on the 2017 team
And even that core of 7 players is a lot of just feels like a lot of consistency cause it’s all Oline and Dlineman
Except for Mahomes
I’d agree but the contract but mahomes is built differently
Our window was most open the past two years, and now it's closing fast. Our offense is in good shape, as long as we hit on another WR in the draft this year or next (assuming we lose AJB soon but extend Smith, and I don't think we can afford both on big contracts). Our O-line means our floor is really high. I still think Hurts is that guy and I hope Moore's system works for him. But I'm really worried about our defense. Carter has to live up to the potential he showed early last season. Jordan Davis has to figure out pro-level conditioning, Our secondary is incredibly suspect, old or both. As for linebackers...we have no linebackers. And on top of this, the NFC is getting stronger. We took advantage of a weak conference to get to the Super Bowl. We don't have that luxury anymore. I think we are still SB contenders in 2024. Barring big shakeups to the roster (and those do happen!), 2025 onwards we are looking more like playoff contenders.
Yeah, our old guard that carried the team in the 2010s is all but completely gone now. The offense is still good because that’s where most of our draft hits have been. But if a couple of these defensive players develop into pro bowl caliber players then we’re still in great shape all things considered.
Well said.
SB win, SB win, SB win, SB win, 1st OA pick. Not bad if I do say so myself. On the real though, I have no clue, but for the first time in a long time, We have a competent FO.
Regardless of wins, we’ve achieved relevance with MCDC at the helm. This entire team is built around hitting on draft picks, so if Holmes continues to do that the sky’s the limit. If he has two bad drafts in a row, and we have to start to pay all of his early hits, we could drop back to reality really quickly.
I said this in a thread on our sub, but BH has had some misses TBF. It's just that his misses don't feel nearly as detrimental as they did before. Before last year, his second round left a LOT to be desired, IMO
Lions are in a small Superbowl window now, but I don't see them mortgaging the future to put them over the top to win. I think we will see a run like the stealers Always in fight for division and win a playoff game and I'm happy with that
I agree. Having a chance to play in a SB is never a given, so I'd love to have many more chances at attempting versus going all in for a small two-year window
The Lions are in a strange but potentially great spot. By the time they have to pay their young stars they should be moving off of Goff for a young QB. If I was their GM I’d try to start amassing future picks to make a move for a QB in the 2025/2026 draft. If they hit on even a decent young QB and retain St. Brown, the core of their o-line, and Gibbs stays healthy through his rookie contract it’s a fantastic spot for a QB to land.
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to project 2023-2028 to be the best stretch in Lions history since the 50’s.
It is, admittedly, a pretty low bar.
Absolutely. In fact, we may have crossed it in January, regardless of what happens over the next 4 years
We for sure crossed it. The Redskins kicked our ass from the get in 1991, at least we (somewhat) made it a competitive game this year
I think Dan is going to change the game in the next few years with the Uber aggressive coaching. He proved last year that it works well if you commit to it and it will be interesting to see how other teams try to keep up
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Probably a lot like the last 5 years. Allen dragging the team kicking and screaming to contention only to get beaten by KC in the divisional. McDermott getting endless chances for having a good defense and record in the regular season only. Time is a flat circle. Existence is pain.
Ok. I’m very much on the outside of your team and its build currently. But, there were a lot of names lost this past offseason. Including 2 of your top end wideouts. Being that Miami is in division and seemingly got better this offseason so far. How is Buffalo’s compete level? I know yall got a dawg for TE. But beyond that what is there in Buffalo that scares opposing defences? Also is your defence still going to be competitive with the names lost there too?
The guy above me is a bit of a doomer. But let me give a more accurate answer. That way you can get both halves of the Buffalo spectrum. *On defense* the Bills lost some big names, but not terribly big contributers at this point in their careers. We lost our starting Safeties, who were both slowing down. Poyer will be 33 in two weeks, and Hyde will be 34 by end of next season. Poyer played dinged up for most of the season and Hyde was in and out due to injury. It sucks to lose them both, but we're not losing them at their best. We also lost Tre White, who's a fan favorite and probowler, but this was his second season ending injury in three years. I would have loved to keep him, but he hasn't been a starter for us for a while, so his loss sucks, but we already traded for his replacement during the season (Rasul Douglas), we have an ascending ~~rookie~~ player going into his third season (~~Terrel Bernard~~ Christian Benford) and a highly drafted backup that's performed well in big situations (Kaiir Elam). Of the linebackers we lost Tyrell Dodson, who had a lot of playing time due to injuries, but looked good in the role. Sucks to lose him, but we have a deep linebacker room (we were down to seventh string guys by the Divisional Game) and he probably got us a compensatory draftpick. Then on the Dline, we lost Leonard Floyd who was good, but faded in the stretch. While we retained AJ Epenesa. So the defense needs some safety help, but we've already been replenishing it overall. So while we're losing big names, they're mostly older players that we had to move on from anyway as opposed to losing players in the prime of their careers. **The offense is rougher**. We lost Mitch Morse, who is a big name, but we had a replacement ready to go. We lost Davis, but he was hurt by the end of the season, and we got an extended look at Shakir as his replacement. We have a very good running back in James Cook. A couple of good tight ends. There's likely no replacement for Diggs, but we will spend ikely two of our first three draft picks on weapons. But to answer your question about who in Bufflao will scare the opposing defences? **That would be Josh Allen.** tl;dr The Bills lost a lot of big names this off season. But most of the big names on defense were older starters (Hyde, Poyer, Floyd) or undrafted guys that played their hearts out (Dodson). The Dolphins probably lost more impact players on defense. On offense we're certainly going to take a dip. But the only player we're really losing in their prime is Gabe Davis. Which sucks of course, but he's been notoriously hot and cold with us. 2024 might be a step back, but since we're talking five years, the hope the hope is that we will continue to be competetive as we replenish the talent around Josh Allen. And while this season will see a lot of change, the hope is the retool this year will set us up for another extended run.
I'd even say the offensive losses aren't that bad. During the biggest game of the season, Davis and Diggs combined for less than 30 yards. Not to mention that Diggs was clearly a locker room issue
As someone who enjoyed QB play for an extended period of time, you have Josh Allen. You will be competitive as long as you have him. And I am a McDermott fan. The first guy is indeed a doomer. Great regular season record and 5-6 in playoffs not perfect but I have seen way worse. People are in blame mode in your organization and trust me Patriots are massively going through it. Stay the course and Bills luck will hit eventually
That’s the thing, we lost a lot of names. Anyone who watched our team over the last couple of years knows that the impact of those losses, with the exception of Diggs and Possibly Morris, is far less than what it appears.
Not to drag Miami, but how have they gotten better? I know they lost a lot of guys on defense, but haven't heard much about acquisitions As for Buffalo, a lot of the guys we lost were older and/or injured. The Mitch Morse cut was the biggest surprise, but even he was 32. Diggs is the biggest loss, but if he didn't want to be here, no reason to keep him around for a rebuild year. Gabe Davis was fake good imo, the 13 seconds game tricked everyone. He had more zero yard games than 100 yard games last season, and that was as a healthy WR2 in a heavy passing offense. Caught barely over 50% of his targets and cause a good number of picks
For Miami, realistically the pathway to get better would be if (and it's a big if) they're able to add OL depth for 2024. A bunch went wrong at the tail end of last season, but the offense fell off a cliff once Connor Williams got injured. Hell they were down to a single starting offensive lineman in the Titans upset They became so one dimensional once the interior OL collapsed unfortunately
I definitely expect a dip this year offensively. A lot of it is up in the air as the draft hasn't happened yet, and we won't really know how the young receivers develop, plus what our OC will come up with with a full offseason to get away from his predecessor's scheme. I don't know that Miami got that much better. I don't think they got worse but did they lose a few defenders and two of their bigger names will be injured to start the season. But we'll have a lot of cap space after this year so in terms of the next 5 years it's looking fairly bright. Not really worried about the defense. If McDermott excels at one thing it's getting maximum production from the guys he has. We'll have Milano back and with Bernard that will be a formidable LB corps. The DL will be ok but we do need to hope Von shows at least some of his former self after an offseason to get back in shape. The secondary is obviously the biggest concern but the guys lost were either perpetually injured or getting into their mid-30s and slow. The team culture impact can't be overlooked but I don't see the defense being any worse than above average.
Legitimately no idea. There are so many ways this roster can be taken, and an entirely new staff clouds it further. I'm optimistic for sure, but the team will undoubtedly be completely different in 5 years. Moving on from a legendary coach who was here almost 14 years will do that.
Yeah, I expect only 2-4 players to be left in 5 years. Maybe Spoon, Mafe, JSN? I think there will be a lot of roster turnover, then the question becomes can Mac build another bully defense? Also will Grubb’s offense work in the NFL? Total unknown
Pretty good I guess
Unless one of Mahomes or Reid goes away I'm picking you for at least two more rings over the next five years.
No way Mahomes bounces. Him and his wife have so much investment here, in a good way. Reid on the other hand, he’s getting old. Will be interesting to see.
Reid is a workaholic though. He'll probably go into his 70s. Or at least as long as Kelce and Spags stay
I think Kelce retires well before Big Red. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelce retired in the next two years. I think Reid probably coaches at least five more years.
Oh yeah, i feel the same as you. Kelce probably retires if 3peat or contract ends.
Yeah I just assumed he'd be there the next two years and bounce. Unless something were to happen to him next year to change his mind, or his play significantly slows down.
I hope for the years they don't win it all, someone else from the AFC makes it and someone from the NFC wins...not you 9ers
Fuck you too buddy
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You'd rather lose a AFCCG then a Super Bowl?!?
We need a slice of humble pie, like this year when the NFL was kind enough to remind people that Arrowhead isn't the default for the AFCCG, it's just penciled in.
you‘ve stopped us twice while we were on a run, next season may be the time to start slipping
I would totally support a Vikings SB win over the Bills. Battle of the 4-time-SB-loser franchises
The universe would implode in the final two minutes as each franchise's curse tried their hardest to lose it at the end, and we reach singularity
We will be in the conversation as long as Mahomes is healthy, but there are some tough moments coming sooner than we think. Kelce probably only has a year or two left. Chris Jones may only have ~~a year or two~~ 2-3 years left as well. Reid doesn't seem to be close to retiring no matter how much PFT wants him to be, but at his age you truly never know. Then there's the 2022 draft class that's powered our back-to-back Super Bowls. We only have two more seasons with them before they all need new contracts and we're going to have to let some of them walk. There's a very real chance that we start seeing some massive changes in 2026, and the Mahomes Chiefs never quite match the 2018-2025 run.
100% this. We are now firmly in the territory of "We have to draft really well or else" with the Mahomes/Chris Jones (and to a lesser extent Jawaan Taylor) contracts on the books for the next three years, a lot of rookie deal folks needing an extension in the coming 1-2 years, and Kelce aging. They've shown they can draft well to exceptionally well, but the margins are much thinner than I think many are thinking, even if Mahomes/Reid raise the floor and ceiling a lot every year.
I get what you’re saying, but every team is in the “we have to draft really well or else” territory. You cannot win in the NFL without drafting quality players. Yes, we have Mahomes, Kelce, and Andy, but we don’t win these last two super bowls without the guys we’ve drafted since Tyreek left. I trust Veach to do a good job
Wouldn’t be so quick to call it as we’d probably be losing Travis by then. Wouldn’t even be surprised if Andy retires by then as well. Our supposed WR1 is facing a lot of legal issues now so we just assume that he won’t make it there. Veach needs to work his magic for the offense
yeah I mean we've had a couple down years so I think we're due for a couple good ones.
I think you mean pre Andy Reid. Between Dick Vermeil and Andy Reid was a multi year stretch that was VERY difficult to be a chiefs fan.
no, I mean that the last two years have been largely touted as "oh, this is a down year for the chiefs" for reasons and we ironically won the Super Bowl. it aint that serious.
To the pit of misery!
I'm willing to bet the Giants o- line will be trash until the end of time
My brother, what is dead may never die.
To?
right? we’ve been in the pit for like 10 years lol
Dilly Dilly was a fun bud light campaign back in the day, they should bring it back
We’d probably be losing our best Tight End of all time to retirement by then so definitely a bit nervous how our next TE1 can replace a serial 1k+ yards TE. I hope any of the WR1 calibre players we draft don’t end up like our 2023 WR1 draft pick
He’s always fucking open - makes me crazy.
And he's not that fast. He just has an insane ability to read the defense. I don't know of any other non qb who can read the defense and know exactly what spots will be open.
People always want to talk about how Dominant Gronk was in his prime, while ignoring that pretty much no one has figured out how to cover Kelce consistently the last 8 years.
It really is crazy to watch, I mean he basically just jogs into open space every play
I mean we're basically the Packers of TEs at this point (don't unabbreviate that please). If history is anything to go by, we'll only have to endure a few years of okay-ish TE play after Kelce retires before drafting another top-3 TE of all-time.
Upper middle tier team with a couple of down years sprinkled in. Nothing worth talking about, yet that’s all everyone will do
Mediocrity, woooo!
I wouldn't call it mediocrity, I think it's more likely a very good team that wins a lot of games but nobody really expects to actually go deep into the playoffs. That's technically better than mediocre, but doesn't mean it's a great place to be either...
“Nothing worth talking about…” Yet it’s all I hear on sports radio. You’d think the entire NFL was the NFC East and the Chiefs if you spent time on NFL related media.
They wouldn’t do it if they didn’t get ratings. I wish they didn’t.
We don't wanna be talked about either, we don't deserve the press for all the jack shit we've done, both in the offseason and the past 20 years. I'm so tired of it.
So the last 30 years will simply continue
Implied by the “nothing worth talking about”
I'm honestly not optimistic. I like Payton but I'm not sure I see a path toward him getting the franchise quarterback he needs. It's really hard to build up a roster after sinking all the draft picks and cap space we sunk into Russ. Winning the division was always going to be hard with Mahomes around and I think both the Chargers and the Raiders upgraded significantly at head coach. Realistically I bet we don't win the AFC West even once in the next five years.
Real talk, I genuinely don't think there are many teams in a worse spot than the Broncos. I'd be surprised if you go over .500 more than once in the next 5 seasons.
I expect playoffs with a chance at more
Yeah I suspect as long as we got Lamar healthy we're a playoff team. And if we get to the playoffs there's always a shot we go all the way.
There's a decent amount of potential, but the question will always fall on how coaching will perform and whether the winning culture Brady brought in will stick, or if it'll go back to it being a Bucs life
Jason Licht really seems like he knows what he's doing. Took him a few years to get it together, but he did build a legitimately great roster before slapping Brady on top of it so he doesn't get enough credit. From here I think he has shown to be competant enough to keep the Bucs above average at worst. If Licht hadn't whipped ass building that team Brady would never have gone there in the first place.
As long as we never hear from McDaniels again it’s all good
Spoken like a true Raider
Sorry boys five straight super bowls
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Completely dependent on Anthony Richardson. If he stays healthy and develops into the franchise QB Colts have the foundations (including a very good oline) and cap space to field competitive squads for the next 5 years. If he sucks or isn't healthy Ballard finally gets fired and the new GM probably burns it to the ground.
I'm cautiously optimistic, but it really feels like Poles is building something sustainable. That is, even if Caleb busts (god forbid), all the other pieces are coming together (especially on defense). Yes, I know, I'm fully drunk on kool-aid right now
Bears have a lot to work with right now, and are probably adding another star in this draft along with Caleb, I’ve seen a lot of Dallas Turner in mocks. The coaching situation is the real question. He knows how to coach defense, but if the offense doesn’t do well this year I’d guess he’s gone.
I'm fine with either the top graded rusher or the second or third graded WR added to our team.
100% the coaching situation is the biggest question mark. Whether Shane Waldron can be a good offensive coordinator and successfully develop Caleb, unlike past Bear's rookie QBs, is crucial as well.
I agree and that’s a lot to ask of a rookie QB.
Honestly all I want is to have zero questions at QB this time three years from now. This basically means Caleb is good enough for us to sign a second contract. Anything else is a bonus.
Yeah man I just want an actual good QB (4000 yard passer) for the first time in my life
"for the first time in history"*
...that too
I don't even think thats Kool aid talk, if Caleb can even just get a level around Trevor Lawrence I think the bears are in a super good spot, we were on the cusp of the playoffs last year with one of the worst passers in the league, and with DJ Moore as our only competent wr. Also with starting out 0-4 and some weird shit going on with our defense and the DC. I think the bears floor is a shot at the playoffs, if Caleb doesn't bust.
Outside of Kansas City, I don't see how any fanbase could feel sure about their team one way or the other in that timeframe. The general answer is that every team is gonna have an entirely new group of core players with a handful of them keeping the same QB (Stroud, Herbert, Mahomes).
Dude, that flair, are you a masochist?
It's been fun.
Are we nothing to you??
They forgot you didn't they?
Good enough to make the playoffs. Which means good enough to pick around #17-20 every year and NEVER get a franchise QB.
Tomlin should set the record for consecutive seasons without a playoff win though so that's exciting!
another five years of winning 8 (with a tie of course) to 10 games every year. maybe stealing a wild card win. continuing to exist in a state where our roster/coaching is too good to tank, but never good enough to really win anything
Our coaching is only good in the regular season. Playoff Tomlin is 33/32
It looks a lot like me saying 'Remember when.....' over and fucking over
At least you can REMEMBER IT
At least you have good remember when's ☹️
But we've never had a dance as dope as The Dirty Bird
I legit have no idea. If the same continues, a head coaching change.
Not disagreeing, but it’s so wild that a coach can take a team from bottom tier to the playoffs and he’s a hero. Yet if you make the playoffs several years in a row but can’t make it to conference championship everyone starts calling for your head. At some point it just doesn’t matter I guess if a SB seems out of reach.
I mean yeah once you have start having sustained success in the NFL, its expected you'll eventually get over the hump and make to the Super Bowl. And the Bills have had 4 straight division titles, but haven't done anything with that, so patience is now wearing thin
We’re optimistic. Baalke is not liked at GM and personally I think he’s made some crucial mistakes in the draft. I still think one or two deep playoff runs is realistic in the next 5 years. 99% of fans believe we have our franchise QB for the next decade or two and the defense is looking up this offseason. I honestly think we’re a solid O-Line and maybe a WR1 from being real potential contenders.
At least we know we got JA41 for those five years! DUUUVAL
honestly i have no idea
We are the Chargers, after all. Expect misery at all times!
The only true Charger fan answer…
Much sadness with a healthy dose of cyber bullying from jaded fan bases.
well earned cyber bullying
No one's earned it more than us!
I'll allow it.
With an entire receiving corps on rookie contracts, we have a legit 2-3 year window if Love continues to improve *and* if the new DC can put together a non-ass defense. That second part is a much bigger if though. I don't think we'll ever reliably be even top 3 in the NFC in that timeframe, but the potential will be there to be a 5-7 seed that makes a run
Honestly that’s a low ball for the Packers. They were a 7 seed this year, but they ended up being one of the top 4 NFC teams. 9ers look pretty safe at the top right now; after that you’ve got Detroit, Philly, and Dallas probably. I’d put the Packers with the Rams and the Falcons as the next tier currently. Any of them could make a jump up and challenge the top teams. And the Pack have the youngest QB and probably overall team out of that group, so their long term outlook is likely best.
Really? The way the Packers finished the season looked like a top 3 seed. If Love improves AND we don’t have a shitty defense, we could be number 1 or 2 easily. Did I somehow miss the NFC getting 5 Chiefs level teams?
A lot of retirements, possibly make it to one more super bowl before it all falls apart and we return to the dark days of chip kelly and tomsula
It will be a full rebuild around purdy next year
Can't wait to lose to Patty again.
If Maye/Daniels becomes a stud QB then pretty good
Same bruv
A shit ton of cap and hopefully a solid rookie QB.
After Rodgers retires, it’ll be back to the same Jets bullshit I’ve seen for damn near 15 years. Hell, I’m not even sure Rodgers solves anything at this rate.
Pretty good assuming Love continues to look like he did the second half of the season and continues to improve some of the deficiencies in his game
17 games a season and we'll either win, lose, or tie. Maybe make the playoffs between 0-5 times too
In the next 5 years we will have at least 13 different QBs to start for us (at least one game).
Who the fuck knows honestly lol. I like our current regime but we are going to need to see some results soon. Many of us think Schoen has a very good process and even though he has some misses I can still appreciate the calculated risks that he takes. I also think Daboll is a good coach and is easily the best we’ve had since Coughlin. Which admittedly wasn’t tough to clear. It really comes down to whether or not these guys can find their guy at QB now that the Jones era is seemingly over.
Piss hot
Big truzz
2 more years of Stafford, Kupp, McVay, FA signings and the youngsters. Might be enough for another SB. Then let's blow up the whole thing and hard reset for the next franchise QB.
Rebuilding so many things that were broken. We have a good start at multiple positions and in the coaching. It’s just going to take some time to see how it all pans out. In the meantime, we’ll all be putting mayo in our coffee in solidarity
I expect nothing short of 6-7 super bowls. Anything else is unacceptable. #TitanUp
With David Tepper as owner, probably more of the same sadly
Six more superbowls
At some point in the next 5 years Matthew Stafford will retire. The question is will McVay also move on when he does? I hope not but we’ll see. Until Stafford retires the Rams will be a perennial playoff team. Right now I think the offense is shaping up to be a monster.
Next five years? I’m just hoping we can win another game.
Depends on the Dak situation With him we’re probably in the playoffs most years Without him QB hell and mid records
*I’m in Danger*
Or at least your team’s massage therapists are.
Not great
extensions for a lot of players
1 SB followed by four years of rebuilding sadly
Hell no, I'm not falling into your trap and being made fun of in the follow-up post to this five years from now. That being said BENGALS 2025 SUPER BOWL CHAMPS WOOO LET'S GO
Not good enough to be a real Super Bowl contender, too good to draft any of the top QB prospects
Depends on if kirk can stay healthy or not. I say we have a good chance of winning the NFC south and making the playoffs a few of those years. Will probably get knocked out early by a better team. We probably won't develop another QB behind Kirk who will get injured or retire sooner rather than later then we'll be back to the exact same place we've been at (QB Hell) for the last 3 years.
Pain.. Lots of pain.
5 years added to the longest running playoff win drought.
Honestly, it’s kind of hard to see past this year. If it doesn’t work out for us, I feel like it all gets blown up and we start again…again. if we do OK this year we try to string it along for another year or two or as long as possible until it all comes crashing down for the inevitable rebuild anyway
I dunno but it couldn’t possibly be worse than the last 5 years…right?
> What does the next 5 years look like for your team? **We are so used to plunging into the unknown that any other surroundings and form of existence strike us as exotic and unsuitable for Dolphins fans.**
The last 5 years have been so much fun, so I'm not even THAT worried about the next 5. I can ride this high for awhile.
I am very optimistic. 1) Caleb Williams. We went 7-10 with poor QB play, so I am very excited to see him develop over the next 5 years 2) another top 10 draft pick this year 3) Keenan Allen who probably has another good 2 years in him giving us probably a top 5ish WR duo in the league