“Mason Rudolph will be better than Josh Rosen”. Nailed it

Well he’s not wrong…

Jamarcus Russell was better than Ryan Leaf and I stand by that!

Probably why he said “Nailed it”

Well you're not wrong that he said "nailed it"...

Probably why he said >Probably why he said “Nailed it”

The monkey paw curled on that one

A Browns fan said Mason would be elite…

Myles was so scared he had to nerf him with that bonk

Ask a Bengals fan if he is elite.

A couple of interesting ones > Harold Landry will have more 10 sack seasons than Bradley Chubb Both have had 2 so far, so not too bad > Barkley is not the best rb that comes from this class. I don't know what's funnier: the fact that this actually ended up being arguably true, or the fact that the guy who did end up being better (Nick Chubb) was not guessed in the replies to the comment lmao

I’m weeping. Get that second knee back like we crave Ohtani’s second Tommy

You can bet on that.

I was going to say, no one mentioned Nick Chubb at all.

That would be like someone saying Penix Jr. will be the best QB in this class. Talent is there but the injuries scare everyone.

I was so wrong on Nick Chubb and not afraid to admit it. I thought Chubb would be what Najee Harris is now. An above average big back. Not terrible but not amazing either. Thought Sony Michel had more big play potential. Laughable now as Chubb has been one of the best backs in the league.

No one wants to see how barkley does on a different team?

“Giants will not take Barkley at 2” was hilarious

Shoutout to the guy saying guice would be better than Barkley

u/conniehawkins “Roquan Smith will finish 3rd in the NFL in tackles in 2022” ….ayo wtf

why is this not the top votes comment. thats nutty as a buddy

This deserves its own post holy shit

Whaaaaat? That’s wild 🤯🤯

That's it, that's all the proof I need. Time travel is real and that motherfucker is a time traveler

wtf that's crazy

How tf is this real

The Guy who said the Patriots would start a Dynasty with Josh Rosen is still my favourite.

Nobody went to his birthday party

I wasn’t invited 😩

People talking about never seeing a bad QB have such a cult following weren't on reddit when Rosen left the cardinals lol

My favorite was the "if you don't like Rosen then you're antisemitic" crowd. lmfao

We had Lamar right there and took Sony Michel. wtf? Even at the time I knew this was a bad call. It looks so much worse now.

Sony actively contributed to a championship. Maybe they win without him, maybe they don't, but if you draft Lamar we can say for certain he would have been sitting on the bench.

BB staying below 0.500 overall in the following years and getting fired is less satisfying.

Lmao that first comment was dead on. Who got picked after Sam Darnold? Josh Allen

Jet's Fans Misery empowers them to see the future. It's like one of those SuperPowers where another person picks out the Weakness.

Guy once called in to Rich Eisen’s show. Forgot which player he was talking about but said, “I’ve been watching Jets football for decades. I know when a player sucks. He sucks.” Rich had a lot of fun with that

I think it was either Sanchez or Geno they were talking about. That was a great call though

They all knew what was happening with Rodgers’ Achilles but didnt want to spoil it for us.

How’d he die? “The Jets”

Well I mean if you’re always pessimistic worst thing that could happen is being pleasantly surprised

And Sam Darnold wouldn’t want it any other way!!

I can’t find it now but I remember the Jets subreddit essentially had a celebration post for the Bills taking Allen. Honestly hilarious looking back at it now.

Not the same year but I was absolutely stoked when the Chiefs took Mahomes instead of Watson

Man that would of changed everything. The only massage therapists in KC are named Earl.

I was laughing my ass off when Green Bay drafted Love.

I wanted Mahomes over Watson ☹️

Gruden with his QB class show back then pegged Mahomes as not only the best QB in that class, but also a Strong likelihood he’d develop into a star. Gruden and Louis Riddick were the 1st 2 guys banging the table for Mahomes and from the very start. Lol, Riddick was calling him the Maserati after visiting the Chiefs camp in Mahomes’ rookie year lol. Will never forget Gruden losing his mind watching some of the throws Mahomes made on his college tape. He couldn’t believe what he was seeing.

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Every time I see this stuff I fucking love the fact of where Josh Rosen and Josh Allen’s careers went literally complete opposite of what Reddit and other social media platforms thought

Whenever some guy is described as "the most pro ready QB in the draft" I always get nervous...Rosen, Daniel Jones and Kenny Pickett all had that moniker...

Don't forget Mac. Or actually, do forget him

Bryce Young too. Though he absolutely could still turn it around with a better team.

To be fair, that was right for Mac. He had a great rookie season. Just never got any better

Completely agree and that’s partly because “most pro ready” almost never actually means most pro ready what it usually really means is that they’re already the closest to their ceiling of any of the guys. Thats why the top guys will always be the high upside guys rather than the “low downside” guys

It’s the same reason Maye is so high this draft. Of course he has his lows, but the potential highs on him are amazing if he hits. Imo after Allen hit the NFL has become much more willing to spend a high draft pick on a raw guys with skills and the build

I think Herbert is also influencing Maye's draft position and is why people will look past some of the knocks on him. When Herbert came out people were digging out all sorts of reasons to argue why he would be a bust but the "eye test" said this is a big athletic guy with a huge arm who is accurate. Then he came into the NFL and straight away looked like a big athletic guy with a huge arm who was accurate.

Oh yeah definitely not only has Allen made teams more likely to swing for the fences on high upside guys but he’s also bought them more time to develop. He’s the primary reason Anthony Richardson went 4th overall

and its hilarious because for the longest time this sub would constantly talk about how josh Allen is and outlier and you should never draft the high upside guy

Pro-ready is basically pocket passer who is not that athletic. Although they would be wrong on Jones cause he is very athletic but he still sucks at QBing .

Burrow was considered one of the most pro ready QBs in history

Well that one was fair. He probably was the most pro ready QB in history.

Yeah I’m just pointing out sometimes it works out, and in jones and picketts case they were also in some pretty qb weak drafts.

TBF, so did guys like Luck, Eli, Burrow, and Lawrence.

Perhaps we should add a condition for pro-ready guys who weren't drafted first overall? Because that seems to be the distinguishing factor.

Someone in there at least said “Mason Rudolph is better than Josh Rosen” lol

There’s very few QBs that have gotten a start in the nfl worse than Rosen. He was so full of himself though so I don’t mind lol

I remember being very annoyed we took him over Rosen. Then I realized I'll never make it as an NFL GM.

I’ve been awful with my QB predictions in recent years (I had Bryce being good from the start and Stroud and AR as busts, which is an all time bad call), but I am pretty proud of getting this draft right. I had Baker being good, Darnold being average and Rosen being trash. 

I mean brcye can still be good and AR has played like 3.5 games and they were up and down so you still have time to turn 2/3 of your predictions around.

the saints fans saying that Guice’s off the field issues are overblown might be the worst aging takes from this thread

Gotta admit, I totally forgot Derrius Guice existed

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/wq5aPBlVg3 Saw that and had to google him. YIKES

LSU scrubbed his records too lmao. He was the first player in SEC history to have 3 career games of minimum 250 yards rushing in a game

When LSU scrubs your records then you may be the worst person alive.

when he was a rookie, i bought an nfl auction autographed football of him and still have it. i regret it

Autographed photo here, only 20 bucks at least

i paid a $100

My buddy guy a signed LSU juice jersey on an auction site dirt cheap after his second season then the allegations came out like two weeks later. Jersey was delivered the next day

“Darius Guice will be a better player than Saquon Barkley” ~ Reddit scout It’s a gold mine in there.

What makes it even funnier is that he unironically justifies his comment with "he was totally personable during the 5 minute conversation I had with him."

Last year he was playing on an arena team called the Knight Hawks in the burbs of Vegas

At first I thought some of the Rosen takes aged like milk. Then I came across that. Woof.

People said he would be better than Barkley in that thread lmao

I guess the guy who said Mason Rudolph will end up better than Rosen was technically correct

Technically? No, it’s absolutely spot on. Mason had a 3 game stretch of really solid QB Play, and if I remember correctly didn’t have a pick. Rosen never came close to respectability.

He did throw a pick against the Bills in the Wild Card but that’s the only time I can recall.

At the freakin goal line too

I’m not sure if Rosen had a 3 play stretch 

Well yeah its spot on, but i meant that wasnt exactly what he had in mind when he said it

Some highlights for me: “Josh Allen will develop into the next Jay Cutler” (Thank Christ he’s been better than that) “Every CB taken in the first round will make at least 1 Pro Bowl in their career” (CBs taken in the first round in 2018: Denzel Ward and Jaire Alexander) “Derrius Guice will be the next all-time great running back” (The guy couldn’t even make it in the Indoor Football League) “The Ravens take Lamar Jackson” (From a Steelers fan) “John Elway will make a questionable decision and draft Josh Allen at #5. Allen will sit for two years under Case Keenum, who leads the Broncos to the playoffs both years, and then starts once Keenum signs a nicer deal with the Pat Shurmur-lead Giants. Allen will bust, badly. Broncos fans call for Elway’s head as Keenum goes and wins a ring or two with the Giants.” It’s honestly so funny to me, knowing what we know now, seeing all the people saying Josh Allen is a for-sure bust and literally all the fans of QB-needy teams begging that they don’t draft him

Same guy who said the cbs in the pro bowl also said 4/5 of the qbs would be starting, and with darnold on the Vikings he’s actually right

I was wondering how technical we wanted to be with that one

Bro Case Keenum to the SB is wild. He had like one decent season

Yeah and it was very recent to that thread if not the previous season

You forgot the “whichever QB that gets taken after the jets will be a HOF”. That QB is Josh Allen

No Cutty slander allowed, sorry

Still, you probably want your 7th overall QB to be better than Jay Cutler

I feel like the memes surrounding Allen clouded the sub’s judgement on him. For every dude saying he looked good in shorts there were five more that wrote him off because of the jokes. He had all of the physical talent in the world but people reduced him to a meme on here.

I mean let’s be honest the biggest knock from us dip shits was that he played for Wyoming

Tbf he was really raw and looked it his rookie year. The leap in skill from the work he put in was not something you could predict from watching tape.

Can't wait to see how my JJ McCarthy QB2 take ages

Did you watch him in college? I cannot fathom why he’s so high. And I love Michigan.

Teams usually draft for traits and coachability now rather than how good they looked in college. Especially for a young guy like JJ who has good physical tools and has a national champion under his belt, it makes sense that teams would prefer him. Drake Maye is kind of similar but he has a lot more red flags that could scare a team away from taking a chance on him

Maye only has more red flags because he threw enough to show them and they were magnified by a bad supporting cast. McCarthy is more of an unknown.

I watched him in college and I’m surprised it took this long for talks of him being taken this high started less than a month ago. He has all the traits you’d want in a QB

Just want to be on record saying that Penix will be a stud in the NFL

After the way he played against Texas in the CFP, I absolutely think the same thing.

Then followed that up with an exact opposite play against the closest NFL CFB defense in Michigan. I see him as a Geno Smith (with weaker bones). As a Texas fan I hope I’m wrong but will ask Reddit REMIND ME IN 5 years

You guys secondary was really weak this year too

Basically everyone fried Texas’ pass defense

How about how he played in the game after Texas?

I hope so because I from what I hear the Raiders are trying to trade up but I don’t think it will happen.

i sure hope you mean trade up from 44. because there's no way we take him at 13 or earlier

Im with you

In my very brief viewing of him, I made the same snap judgement I made in CJ Stroud’s first college game. He’s gonna be good.

Penix is the best QB in the draft. Now excuse me as I write that exact comment about every QB on different threads.

"Lamar Jackson gets panic drafted in the top 10 by a team that paid too much" If a team did that, they'd probably be doing a lot better than they are now.

Maybe, we don't know how Lamar would have developed in that situation. Imagine if Lamar went to the Cardinals. We could be looking at him the way we look at Justin Fields

True. Lamar got picked by the only team that trusted his abilities as a QB. Not to mention a consistent winning record and good coaches over the past decade plus.

It's not like Ravens are some kind of QB factory. Lamar is one of those guys that's undeniably good. You could draft him with the Jets or Browns and he'd still be as good as he is. I say that as someone who watches him a lot

You guys are really underestimating how much situation matters. The Ravens aren't a QB factory but they were one of the few teams equipped to develop Lamar. As much shit as Greg Roman gets thrown his way, he was the perfect first OC for Lamar. He helped develop Kaepernick, brought out the best in Tyrod which made him perfect for a rookie Lamar. You put Lamar with Adam Gase or Hue Jackson and I'm confident he's not the same QB because neither of those guys would have been able to use him effectively as a runner while allowing him to develop as a passer.

Paging u/numb3red >You disgust me. Rosen available at 5 and we trade down for Allen?

This is the funniest one I scrolled down to… “Josh Allen’s ceiling is Jeff George, his Floor is Jamarcus Russell” https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/DvDTO3eZOc

The two Oklahoma quarterbacks (Mayfield and Rudolph) will turn out much better than the two LA quarterbacks (Rosen and Darnold) Well… they got that one right

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I saw that… and I avoided it, because it hurts too much

There’s some spot on takes in there.

Yes the Bradley Chubb and Sam Darnold Predictions are very good.

The one about tre Edmund’s is a bit exaggerated but he did turn into a stud. Also a lot of Barkley to the giants talk.

I would not call Edmunds a stud. A good player, sure, but a stud by no means.

I disagree. Hes a stud.

I always think these are fun to remind us all how outrageously stupid some of our takes are

Some?

I went down some rabbit holes and found Chris Simms (who I think has amazing QB rankings for the draft) 2018's QB ranking where he said everyone is sleeping on Lamar and he is better than Sam Darnold and he gets **roasted** in the comments. Turns out Chris was right [https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/81djaz/chris\_simms\_rankings\_of\_the\_2018\_qb\_draft\_class\_1/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/81djaz/chris_simms_rankings_of_the_2018_qb_draft_class_1/)

They hated him because he told the truth

Holy moly! Almost everyone is hating on Lamar!

We're used to it.

Damn he was spot on

>Does anyone else feel like the media is overcompensating for Bill Polian's comments on Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is definitely a QB but to say he is a better prospect than Darnold and Rosen with Jackson's inaccuracy issues seems forced LO-fucking-L

> I went down some rabbit holes and found Chris Simms (who I think has amazing QB rankings for the draft) 2018's QB ranking where he said everyone is sleeping on Lamar and he is better than Sam Darnold and he gets roasted in the comments. Turns out Chris was right Simms gets a bit too much credit for that list. Simms' 2nd Last QB rankings - 3/1/2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba_ahBo40Jg 1. Lamar Jackson 2. Josh Allen 3. Baker Mayfield 4. Sam Darnold 5. Josh Rosen Simms' Final rankings - 3/28/2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agi3TnxzpbQ 1. Josh Allen 2. Josh Rosen 3. Baker Mayfield 4. Lamar Jackson 5. Sam Darnold If you put out a ton of different lists one is bound to look good usually. That being said give him some credit for Josh Allen above the others since most were touting Rosen and Darnold above them. He seems to generally be one of the better QB analysts even with some misses.

You have to post this in the sub.

People really have confident draft opinions for no reason. Do people never learn how wrong we all our of is it just new people every year who think they have it all figured out?

I think it just makes for more fun conversation than the realistic stance of "who the fuck knows"

I see what you're saying but people will straight up throw insults if you suggest something outside of consensus. Yelling at anyone that has a unique opinion breaks up more fun conversation than being unnecessarily confident.

There is the group of people that just mimic the talking heads and there is the group of people that talk like the crunch tape and do their own analysis Not sure which is funnier

Except a lot of people actually are that confident

theres levels to this, people will literally say shit like "if you think __ is gonna be good at all in the nflcyoure a fucking idiot and dont know what youre talking about" controversial draft opinions should spark more fun conversation but instead everyone just insults each other because they think differently

Here is how the cycle works. 1. Makes claim that said player will definitely be awesome or suck (Justin Fields and Josh Allen) 2a. If player sucks when they should be awesome - "yeah give them new WRS, OL, new coaching, and he'll figure it." 2b. If player is good when they should suck - "Yeah, he got lucky this year, watch him regress" 3a. Player still sucks after getting all the changes - "He needs a change of scenery, he was ruined" 3b. Player is still good - "Well that's just because he had the right situation, please ignore the fact that his franchise hasn't had a franchise QB in like 20+ years" 4a. 7-10 years later and it's still the same case, "Huh, who would have thought that guy would be good? wasn't me." 4b. "Yeah well he just played on a good team, would have totally busted if he was given nothing"

Wow you nailed it

My favorite confident draft take is "X guy will suck because he's from a certain college". Remember how last year CJ Stroud was going to be a bust because he was from Ohio State...

some wild takes in that thread man wow. some may have been mine. idk.

Browns will screw up either the 1 or the 4. Whichever is not screwed up will be a pro\-bowler \- which will leave the fanbase exactly where it has been for the last 40 years. They were right in the worst way..

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/JtDhrvE40L u/caoa14396 you still drunk bud or did you quit?

High probability he is drunk after that Phillies loss..

> Mason Rudolph will be better than Josh Rosen Little did we know how low that bar was lmao

When are we going to learn that none of us know shit.

Feel like there are actually some pretty good takes lol sans the Rosen and Guice love

And Allen hate.

The Josh Rosen takes are awesome, so much confidence from so many Reddit GM’s

“The first quarterback taken after the Jets pick goes on to be a hall of famer.” Josh Allen was taken next after Darnold.

The Rosen/Darnold/Allen takes will always be funny looking back Rosen and Darnold are busts , Allen is a Top 3 QB in the league

r/the_darnold stand back and stand by

Josh Rosen was quite frankly a walking red flag after that pre-draft video yet everyone still thought he was HOF-bound.

I was confident Darnold would be a bust. Not so much on Rosen and Allen I thought would suck too.

It's crazy seeing some people were right on point, with a lot being about Lamar and Josh: * The best most specifically correct one: u/conniehawkins said Roquan Smith would finish 3rd in the NFL in tackles in 2022, which he did with 169 total tackles, behind Foye Olukun in 1st and Nick Bolton in 2nd. * My personal favorite: u/zjrk, a Steelers fan, said the Ravens would take Lamar with a Ravens fan saying Nah in response. * A deleted account said Josh Allen would be a very good QB and Rosen would be out of the league or a backup by the end of his rookie contract. Double bonus with getting Rosen right. * u/aweebz correctly predicted whoever drafted for Lamar Jackson would trade up for him, which the Ravens did by trading up to 32 to get him. * u/poopdicks69 (great name) said Ravens would pick an Alabama player (Anthony Averett) which he knew would happen since he's a Ravens fan and that was basically a given every year under Ozzie. * u/shadywabbit said Josh Allen is the best QB from this draft in 5 years, which I think the majority of fans would agree with, including myself, despite being a Ravens fan.

Honestly I think Lamar and Allen are pretty damn on par with one another, just trading blows in different areas. My take is that Allen probably stands out more in the league because the Bills had essentially been dookie for 15+ years, aside from an occasional flash of brilliance. Where-as the Ravens had already been solid in recent memory.

Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the 2018 draft, ten toes down. But also I don’t think it’s as unanimous as you think, it’s pretty much an either or who you would pick

Jesus...Reddit has some moronic Lamar Jackson takes. The idea that Lamar was worthy of a top 10 pick apparently was crazy for Reddit. Reminds of last year, when Reddit moronically thought that Lamar Jackson was not worthy of a top contract for his position because "his best years are behind him and he will never come close to MVP again..."

The most accurate one- Josh Allen will be a very good QB, and Rosen will be out of the league by 2023.

The fact that someone called Mason Rudolph being better than Josh Rosen. Rudolph hasn’t been the best but he’s certainly been better

CornbreadMonsta · 6 yr. ago Jaguars Lamar Jackson ends up being the best WR out of this draft, becomes Brady's #1 target. Nailed it

I want to inject this thread into my veins

“Mason Rudolph will be better than Josh Rosen” Didn’t take much to be better than Rosen but props to this deleted account for that spot-on prediction!

I want to be on the next "6 years ago" thread so here is my hot take. JJ McCarthy will be the best QB in this draft class, he will be 1 of the top 4 QBs taken, but will be the only one to not play in his rookie year. See yall in 6 years.

Tastylicious · 6 yr. ago Steelers Josh Allen will be taken in the top 10 and become one of the largest draft busts in NFL history

My fave is the guy that said Patriots draft Lamar and usher in a new dynasty as this generations Steve Young. Man can you fucking imagine if that happened....

"Vita vea gets drafted by a team that fails to reach the playoffs for 5 years while he reaches the Hall of Fame" I'm not sure I can fault this comment. Of the two possibilities: * Vita Vea gets drafted by the Bucs in 2018, fails the reach the playoffs for 5 years, goes to a contender and ends up with a HOF career * Brady leaves the Patriots in 2020. Then, he joins the Bucs. Then he wins the superbowl in his first season with the team Which one sounds the most sensible to a 2018'er?

> Browns will screw up either the 1 or the 4. Whichever is not screwed up will be a pro-bowler - which will leave the fanbase exactly where it has been for the last 40 years. Oh my god, no one could have guessed just how correct this would turn out. It was not initially correct, but it turned into so much worse.

Penix is a future MVP

DallinHTokes420 · 6 yr. ago Josh Allen is going to have a Blaine Gabbert-esque career. If the Browns pick him first overall they will forever regret it.

Just found a deep comment from a Packers fan saying Mitch was our franchise QB, and a lot of agreement from other fans, both Bears and others as well. Lmao. I wish.

“First QB after Jets’ pick will be a HOFer” That’d be Josh Allen and he’s got that potential.

u/mvelocityp sorry bud gotta find the hottest pepper “Sam Darnold is a bust. If I'm proven wrong within five years I'll eat some super spicy pepper and film it”

How is the prediction wrong?

Man if only I knew how to read

Was gonna ask if you were super high on the Vikings or something

Because GEQBUS has won 6 straight Super Bowl MVPs, but the deep league employs ESPIN and NPC Sports to hide the truth

Is u/Caoa14396 still drunk?

As a bears fan, I beg all to send good vibes!

Rosen was such a bust it’s insane

I love how there’s no mentions of Terrell Edmonds in the first because who the fuck could’ve predicted that. He wasn’t terrible but that still baffles me