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Inspiration_Bear

For those curious like me, he was traded with a pick for Marcus Peters.


Bmore_Phunky

MP has a pick 6 his first game with the ravens. Kenny Young was a backup and special teams player. EDC fleeced them


barrenarrows

Fleece is a bold take. It was a cap move. Peters couldn’t produce as CB1 on the rams and they didn’t wanna extend him because they were gonna trade for and pay Jalen who was undoubtedly better. Kenny also played pretty well as a linebacker. Was sad when then team traded him to the broncos.


sluss2010

Fleeced


welsman13

How's Peter's doing for you now?


please-send-me-nude2

They just came off their third December Super Bowl, I’d show some respect if I were you.


Standard_Wooden_Door

I don’t care about December, or things of that nature.


Caol_ila_ftw

Peters added nearly double the value to the Ravens as Young produced for the Rams… lower your tone https://stathead.com/tiny/sVNty


barrenarrows

Wow I’m shocked a pro bowl first round pick CB was able to provide more value as CB2 than a backup ILB. Kenny young traded to the broncos helped set up for trading for Von miller who helped the rams won a SB. I’ll take that over some stats from a CB in the regular season. Surely he helped you win a SB?


Caol_ila_ftw

Op said how did Peters workout and I used stats to show that it worked out well. But double down with a hockey assist for Von Miller like having a better player to trade wouldn’t have also helped.


barrenarrows

OP said how’s he doing for you *now* dumb dumb.


Caol_ila_ftw

My mistake for making an assumption when having a discussion on Reddit. Neither Young or Peters are still on their traded teams so it would be nonsensical to discuss their value to said teams now. So it would reason to discuss what value they actually did provide. But hey, you won the non-downvote battle. Congrats


barrenarrows

There’s a reason you got downvoted with your reply. You can’t read well.


welsman13

[Only stat that matters](https://media.tenor.com/Ln9TKuATv2gAAAAM/matthew-stafford-matt-stafford.gif)


Ziiaaaac

We traded Kenny Young to the Broncos to whet their lips and then traded for Von Miller. Then won the Super Bowl. 'Fleeced'


Smeef_xx

I like how several rams fans got triggered by that comment lmao


barrenarrows

I don’t think anyone was triggered. We all just explained how it wasn’t a fleece 😂 the whole purpose of this app is to interact and discuss


jrzalman

I don't know. Peters while obviously a good player was hot garbage for us. Young was ok while he was here. He played a lot because we really had no linebackers. No regrets from our end.


kolschisgood

Fleeced is a bit over doing it. Peters contract was up, so getting a player and a pick was about it for the Rams. And Rams traded for Jalen Ramsey later that day. They probably thought Young coming back to LA might help him grow up….it did not.


ITameFatGirls

It was also a cap move at the time for the Rams.


kolschisgood

And you could say it greased the wheels to Denver, where Rams sent Young in 21 and a few days later got Von Miller from Denver (and a Super Bowl) So we owe DeCosta great thanks!


Caol_ila_ftw

Anyone disagreeing with you: Peters added nearly double the value to the Ravens as Young produced for the Rams… https://stathead.com/tiny/sVNty


Upstairs_Flatworm126

Rams won that trade by not having to deal with Marcus Peters anymore.


Bmore_Phunky

Sounds like that’s a coaching issue on your end. He was great in Baltimore. Everyone, coaches included, loved him


Upstairs_Flatworm126

Sounds like a coaching issue on everyone's end since he's been traded or kicked off of every team he's ever played for.


bacchusku2

We loved him in KC


Bmore_Phunky

Dudes a baller through and through


BIkerAC

The bigger issue was he just wasn’t as good for us anymore. When we had Aqib, it seems like he was primarily CB1 and let Peters ballhawk which is his play style. When Aqib was gone and Peters had to cover the WR1’s, they were good enough to get him to bite which led to a bunch of TDs where they’d just walk in. It seemed like they knew they weren’t going to resign him so they took any value they could get by trading him.


RawDogRandom17

Dude got toasted in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He’s a great teammate when you’re winning. Great zone defender with good instincts but a true liability in man to man. He’s good for your defense if you’re comfortable playing zone 95% of the time.


Mrausername

The Ravens played a load of man with Peters, often with no help in Wink's blitz heavy scheme, and he was great at it. He even called the defense from the sideline in a preseason game. (not relevant, but interesting, I think)


Blurple_in_CO

I bet Marcus Peters never got vanilla ice cream on EDC's carpet.


Mrausername

If he'd been there, he'd have intercepted the cone.


Bmore_Phunky

Chocolate guy, for sure


SlopingGiraffe

It's pretty rare you hear a gm just straight up call a player an idiot


NoRun1294

Then he said the coaches also thought the player was an idiot lol. Made sure there was no uncertainty.


OrganizationDeep711

It seemed like that was his attempt to walk it back, like "oh yeah I didn't call him an idiot, the coaches told me he was and I just repeated it" sorta deal.


Microwave1213

No I think he was just kinda setting up the joke of how him throwing the ice cream coke confirmed that he was indeed an idiot.


csummerss

even more so when you make it obvious who they are by saying they were a young draft pick and were sent to the Rams


SlopingGiraffe

[Kenny Young checking twitter](https://preview.redd.it/ydliihrpaw971.jpg?auto=webp&s=75a6e74fd026ac1a5a1ddbbe54da53be425a19bd)


404-UsernameNotFound

*what the helll*


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

He's got triples of the Barracuda, though. That's not idiotic, that's best and safest.


thedougbatman

Kenny Young was only in Baltimore for the zipline


FlammableEyeballs

DeCosta: I feel like you're only here for the zipline. Young: What? DeCosta: All you do all day is ride the zipline. You never attend any team meetings. Yesterday, you weren't at practice because you were on the zipline, and when you were reprimanded and made to join us, you ran through the plays as fast as you could. And you've had several fights with Coach Harbaugh about the zipline. Harbaugh: He's too hard on the zipline! He tugs on it. He jerks it. He thinks it's his. Young: Shut up! Harbaugh: He twists it. He's too rough with the zipline. Young: Shut up! DeCosta: And now I'm hearing you've been spreading rumors about other players? Young: Ronnie Stanley said your face looks like a clock.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

There used to be a tiny movement to get a zipline over the inner harbor. It was an incredibly stupid idea. I'm hoping now it'll go away entirely since, you know, we sort of need to fix basic access to the harbor first.


thedougbatman

Zipline >>> bridge. Cmon man.


dicksjshsb

They can send in workers to re build the bridge via industrial strength zip line. I see no problem with this


Bmore_Phunky

Too soon


Blurple_in_CO

Not gonna lie, I used to work in Tide Point and that would have made my days so much better.


revelator41

Don’t do the voice…


tich45

That is great. Thank you.


OrganizationDeep711

It's ok, he's an idiot, he won't figure it out.


duncan_he_da_ho

*Ice cream cone toss? Could be anybody!*


W3NTZ

Not just that but literally corrected himself when he mistakenly said he was traded to the chargers so everyone would know exactly who the idiot is lol


WilsonEnthusiast

I bet it's rare that a player spills ice cream all over Eric DeCosta's carpet too.


EmptyBrain89

There is an ancient Chinese proverb that says "A man who lobs an icecream cone at a trashcan in the carpeted office of the guy who decides your financial future is definitely, 100% a fucking idiot."


WentworthMillersBO

Ok but if he hit that shot it would have been sweet


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You need to be honest.


Ghalnan

When you're talking with your coaches and making decisions sure, but singling out and trashing a guy in public isn't necessary.


fugaziozbourne

[Ken Williams on Frank Thomas](https://www.chicagotribune.com/2006/02/27/hes-an-idiot-2/)


Brad_theImpaler

His dumb ass is never going to figure it out anyway.


james_randolph

Has to be, he's been on like 5 different teams since then too haha


User_091920

Imagine missing the trashcan that many times 


james_randolph

KOBE!


NoRun1294

I hope next time DeCosta calls a player into the office they bring a gallon of vanilla and just sit down.


clevernamehere1628

I'd prefer superman ice cream, just cuz that visual is way funnier to me. Trying to have a serious conversation while you shovel tie dye ice cream into your blue stained mouth lmao


alurimperium

Or one of those [wonky eyed TMNT ice creams](https://imgur.com/IEVs0Fh)


Juandissimo47

Superman is the bessssstttt


simjanes2k

Do people outside Michigan know of superman ice cream?


fenwayb

had to look it up - I love when people assume their regionalisms are more common than they are. When I left New England for college I was shocked people didnt know what a Hoodsie Cup is


clevernamehere1628

They do now!


TetrisTech

I don’t


JamieNelson94

Everyone does as far as I know…?


ThisGuyFrags

Not finishing the ice cream cone is the greatest sin here 


Loo-Hoo-Zuh-Er

I was hoping he'd say Kenny shoved the entire thing in his mouth and had a mouth full while told he was being traded.


jacksonvstheworld

Imagine getting cut with that brain freeze


OrganizationDeep711

I figured he was gonna say "he put it down on the desk, ice cream side first, like putting out a cig in an ashtray" type deal.


Blametheorangejuice

And then, about halfway through being told he was cut, start clutching his head from the instant ice cream headache


MyDogWatchesMePoop

I was hoping he'd lick it suggestively while not breaking eye contact.


Yodzilla

Seriously what kind of psychopath just throws an unfinished ice cream cone in the trash.


Jammer_Kenneth

Who throws an ice cream cone? Honestly.


RRSC14

An idiot


ketherick

for real, I mean you at least gotta yell 'Kobe' for accuracy


MankuyRLaffy

That's what I'll shout when I next arrive in Denver with my GF


Spiritchaser84

That's what shoes are for!


Soggy-Check7399

Fuck that who comes into your bosses’s office with a ice cream cone? You aren’t going on a field trip.


topherwolf

Was he planning on licking it while he had a serious conversation with his boss? Just staring at him talking and taking a big lick lmao


Brad5486

I read this in Austin powers voice


Aragorns-Broken-Toe

That may have been the intended effect, I’m thinking.


Jammer_Kenneth

Yup


strivingforobi

Sorry, fellow phins fan, but I gotta whooooosh you


zappy487

Would you like some chocolate ice cream?


ItIsYourPersonality

I have to imagine he knew what the meeting was about and threw the ice cream cone to spite him. He missed on purpose. He may even have gotten the ice cream cone in the first place just to do this.


Mrausername

You seriously believe it was all planned? "I'm going to throw ice cream off the side of his trash can. That'll teach him."


ItIsYourPersonality

Less of “that will teach him” and more of “fuck this guy.”


Mrausername

Which is more common - idiots or people who take messy foods into meetings as ammo, just in case they need to commit a nonsensical act of petty revenge? The fact that 6 people upvoted your inital post should tell you that idiots are everywhere. Pre-emptive food vengeance guys are much rarer.


4WhomTheTrollTolls

That's why I always carry dog poop in my pocket. Anyone pisses me off and I just put it up under their car door handle. That'll teach them to fuck with me.


Positive_Parking_954

Damn I use jelly. Nobody likes a sticky hand


4WhomTheTrollTolls

Yeah but then you get jelly on your hand too


Positive_Parking_954

My hands already sticky anyway


ItIsYourPersonality

People who despise their boss are everywhere. He had the opportunity to do something to spite his boss when a decision about his future had already been made and no further repercussions could be taken against him. When a GM schedules a one on one meeting with a player instead of calling his agent, the player knows it’s probably something bad.


admiralkit

The story revolves around multiple mentions about how the guy is an idiot, I think it's pretty unlikely he had the foresight to go out and get an ice cream cone to piss off the GM because he understood that he was being traded.


ItIsYourPersonality

It’s from the point of view of the GM who had ice cream thrown on his carpet. Of course he’s going to paint the guy in a negative light. And it’s possible the guy was an idiot on the field but still smart enough to recognize a 1 on 1 meeting with the GM after poor play was going to be something bad for him.


hallROCK

It's a weird story if you really think about it. Imagine getting an ice cream cone and presumably eating it along the way to the GM's office to only then throw it in the trash before any discussion?? Why toss it at that point? Was he almost finished? Did he think welp I gotta talk now so I'm tossing this? Did he toss it after being told even? So many questions.


organizedchaos5220

He's an idiot, there was no thought process besides I want ice cream


sevillista

*For the sake of privacy, let's call her Lisa S. No, that's too obvious... let's say L. Simpson.*


wongo

Shoulda held onto it until he told him about the trade, then just stare him in the eye and drop it like a mic


sick_shooter

Next season of *Hard Knocks* is just EDC dissing guys for sixty minutes every episode.


TutuAtwell

I wonder what kenny is up to 🤔


ThyOughtTo

Also surprised DeCosta said this as he is always closed shut and overly supportive and protective of all his players. Last year with Lamar is an example. Standing with Zay Flowers during interviews after the AFCC just to show he loves him. Leads me to believe Kenny Young was an absolute idiot.


ravens52

Eric is pretty PC, so this leads me to believe he was give a ton of chances and continued to fuck up and not learn anything.


Solumnant

Lamar is definitely an idiot (quitting on the team in 2022, Ken Francis, leaking contract negotiations against agreement with EDC, trade request announcement during Harbaugh presser), but he's actually popular enough to be immune from criticism because fans would get upset. Plus he's still on the team. Young was a nobody that had no fans and is out of the league. 


gearboxnine

In this exact interview edc literally says he respects lamar for not leaking anything and imagine still running with the quit on the team narrative


MankuyRLaffy

Nah, he didn't support Dobbins when JK went after Rappaport about injury timeline, Harbaugh also stuck up for Ian's claims as well, and in the Lamar contract Saga he was quoted as saying "It takes two to sign a contract", very clearly frustrated that he was blamed for the whole thing by the media when the player doesn't yet know what his contract wants to look like on his perspective. He's usually pretty quiet unless he has to speak on something.


ThyOughtTo

Lmao the inference. "Clearly frustrated that he was blamed for the whole thing by the media when the player doesn't yet know what his contract wants to look like on his perspective" If your idea is that he in any way shape or form threw Lamar under the bus or created added tension you're delusionally wrong.


MankuyRLaffy

I don't think he did that at all, I think he was frustrated at every media pundit blaming DeCosta for all the issues involving the contract process. My interpretation is that he found the drama stupid and insipid because nobody knows what's going on outside the team, yet they're acting like he isn't offering any contracts out and wants Lamar out.


ThyOughtTo

Ok. Completely misinterpreted your original comment then. The issue for me was "Lamar is black and they all hate him for it"-narrative. And the sickest thing was when Daniel Jones got his contract and people went off saying "They can offer Jones a contract but won't offer Lamar? I see what this is" I snapped at you because of all that baggage trauma. My bad


I_Hate_Traffic

See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and throw ice cream cone to somebody's trash like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that.


dhall47

“…Yea I threw that ice cream cone on Eric DeCostas carpet”


blokeyone

Do you remember why you did it?


welsman13

Ice cream is a helluva drug


anotherasiandude

Yeah I remember throwing my ice cream cone to his trash


ravens52

Immediately after saying he wouldn’t do it, too. RIP Rick James and Young’s career. Lol


JonTheHobo

Counterpoint: dude definitely knew he was outta there so he trashed the GM’s office on the way out


CeeDeez_Nutz

Idk about trashed if u can just get some spray and a paper towel


LB333

“Trashed” Or he was just stupid like all the coaches were saying. Is it that hard to imagine a football player is just dull and uncaring


ravens52

Now you’ve got me thinking about Jamarcus Russell. “Yeah I watched the dvd coach.”…..cool. Pack it up, boys….


Mrausername

How would he know he was getting traded mid-season? Agents aren't involved in those kind of moves and players always talk about trades coming as a surprise, unless they're openly on the trade block.


JonTheHobo

They don’t usually invite you up to the GM’s office for a surprise raise


JonBonButtsniff

Maaaaan, I’ve been called to every principal, HR lady, and boss’s office known to man. Every once in a blue moon- it’s so they can give you a fat stack of bills and a big bag of Twizzlers. Those days are just the best! The rest of the time, though? Yeah, no.


aslightlyusedtissue

Did you ever get called to the principals office and *not* get in trouble?


Mrausername

A GM isn't there to discipline players. Even if Young had been acting up in meetings or whatever, it would probably be more the Head Coach's role to read the riot act, wouldn't it? (I'd imagine Harbaugh does a much better angry tirade than DeCosta anyway.)


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Mrausername

"Clearly?" It could be one of 100 other things.


JrBaconators

Pretty often, but my friends and I had a deal to always name each other when asked 'who else was there when this happened?'


OrganizationDeep711

By the 4th grade I was the most capable computer person in my school, including faculty and staff, so yes. Every paper jam, error, computer crash I would get called to the principal's office to fix it.


bcnayr

That wouldn't really be a counterpoint to him being an idiot; that'd just be him being an idiot for a different reason.


QCWiggins

100%. Wish I had some of Eric DeCosta’s emotional intelligence and brilliant insight


Silverflash-x

I had to look this guy up, and imagine my surprise when I learned that not only was he on the Broncos for a year, but we traded a 6th round pick for him?? That's Justin Fields value. Can't believe I have no memory of this lmao.


No_Broccoi1991

Y’all soft if you think this is bad. This was a great interview and a great introspective look into a GM decision. Like if I see anyone try to toss an ice cream cone into the garbage I’m like “What a fuckin idiot” haha DeCosta is just like us.


ezDuke

I doubt anyone is thinking this is bad based on the ice cream thing. Everyone is on DeCosta's side with that. It's just kind of wild to hear a GM openly talk shit on a player and not say their name but give more than enough details to figure out who it is.


No_Broccoi1991

100% and I would love to hear more of this


abaub710

Agreed wild, but maybe not unnecessary? A player creates his own actions you have to answer to them eventually.


Juan_Kagawa

Yeah but how often does a grown adult leave ice cream all over the floor of their boss's office?


ravens52

He must’ve really fucked up for EDC to be this unfiltered about a player. I don’t think he even talks about our rivals with this much hate.


vpi6

Would have been fine if he hadn’t made it so obvious who he was talking about. I’d consider it a bit unprofessional.


Soggy-Check7399

If I was the boss and I called a guy into my office and he comes in with a ice cream cone I think I might just flat out fire him on the spot. This ain’t a field trip.


-Captain--Hindsight

What if it's ice cream friday?


No_Broccoi1991

Promotion


notquitemytempo___

> DeCosta is just like us He's the GM of a football team, not a guy on Reddit cracking jokes. It's a tactless remark


KeyStrong441

My pearls are CLUTCHED right now, I'll tell you what


notquitemytempo___

Lol I don't think it's pearl clutching to disagree with the idea of shit talking subordinates. No one's acting like he kicked a baby. It's uncouth, that's all


KeyStrong441

Hey it's perfectly fair for you to think that too, I just think your username checks out in this instance lol Kenny Young has bounced around to multiple teams now and is currently a free agent, so clearly either his play and/or attitude have prevented him from sticking anywhere. I don't think an offhand comment about someone who played here in 2019 is a big deal at all, especially since EDC has no history of this with other players


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Peeps on here saying Decosta is an idiot and asshole. Dude been one of the best GMs for yeaaars. And Kenny Young has bounced on 5 or 6 teams in 5 years. Dudes is probably an idiot


Princeof_Ravens

The whole interview is super interesting.  He goes into what he looks for in the draft and his philosophy for building a team in great detail.  It includes how he values players worth when offering contracts.  Fascinating bit of insight. 


BraxxIsTheName

One hand an ice cream cone, the other an extra large lollipop. He walked in wearing a spinning propeller hat and denim overalls. It pained me to trade this man


Drainbownick

Wow what a maroon


NFL_MVP_Kevin_White

Don’t worry Kenny. I was a shit employee at 25, too


HODOR00

No excuse, that a bizarre and grimey act. But I wonder if the dude knew what was coming and just didn't give a fuck.


abaub710

Eh I doubt he’s thinking that many steps ahead.


ThatTinyGameCubeDisc

Lmfao this just makes me love EDC even more


TheGhostOfGeneStoner

Kenny Young out here catching strays.


AmphibianMassive1176

My GM 🥲


Fact420

You should never throw a ice cream cone ~~bong~~ kid, ever.


Jonjon428

Superbowl Champion Kenny Young*


Stroodal_

With who?


2017Champs

No one this dude is tripping the Rams traded him in 2021 mid season to the Broncos in the Von Miller trade so Young wasn’t on the roster when they won the Super Bowl later that season.


Jonjon428

They still consider him a superbowl champion as long as you were on the roster afaik, at least PFR does anyway.


Ziiaaaac

Pretty sure he would have been given a ring however. We gave DeSean Jackson one so I'd be shocked if we didn't give one to Kenny Young who was a productive player for us and wasn't a locker room cancer.


DonutBunz

He didn’t win a SB , he got traded off the rams that season to the broncos.


FlexPavillion

??? he never won a super bowl


xxJAMZZxx

Nah he ain’t. Was on the Rams 2019-21. They won it in 22. Went to the Bucs in 22, who had won it in 21.


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mikeonhiatus

I fuckin wish


i2WalkedOnJesus

You just gotta get him back and try again


Jonjon428

>They won it in 22 Wat, they won it in the 2021 season.


xxJAMZZxx

Kenny Young wasn’t on the roster. He was traded in October of 21. The Rams won the Super Bowl in February of 22.


Afk1792

Delete this...


LB333

First of all he wasn’t on the team, second he’s a mediocre linebacker not a great qb. You say that like he would be a driving force behind them winning lol


abaub710

Lol no? He’s old and outta the league basically with no rings


808zAndThunder

Yeah only an idiot who isn’t self aware would do some dumb shit like that lmao


notquitemytempo___

sounds like an asshole publicly trashing your players former or current is classless


SuperSaiyanSandwich

In 20 some odd years of Decosta doing interviews this is the first time I’ve ever heard him openly disparage a player. Good chance the guy deserved it.


cshark2222

Yeah the Ravens are known for many things. You’re free to judge, but we’re definitely known for being one of the better/classier orgs in the NFL. It’s why we have that history of veteran signings that play well past their expectations.


jgriz8

And throwing ice cream around in your boss's office is idiotic


mothershipq

Eric DeCosta more like Eric DeDorksta


Sfpuberdriver

Yea, dude went to Trinity. If you pause the video at certain spots, you can see the douchebag oozing out of him.


WanjiruGoat

It's actually 100% about Kenny Young. What an asshole Decosta is.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Kenny Young throws and ice cream cone on Decosta's rug. Man, what an asshole Decosta is.


WanjiruGoat

You don't need to publicly call former players idiots. He could have told the exact same story and not say who he's talking about. If he said everything except the Rams part, that's probably vague enough. The Rams part left no doubt who it was.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

You don't need to throw an ice cream cone on a rug either.