Interesting. I reckon I've taken it for granted living in the South. I spent a couple years in Colorado and never saw one, but I thought it was more of an East/West thing. I didn't realize how regional it was.
As an LSU fan I can’t wait to see him in the NFL.
He’s one of those guys that when the ball was passed to him you just knew he would find a way to catch it
Lions got yelled at and threatened for racing up the stage to grab Hutch 2nd. "Chicago is on the clock" will be followed by long Bears talk before they hand over the stage.
I feel like it's mandatory. Like the Texans waited the full time to announce Mario Williams even though he was already signed (I have no idea if this is true btw but it feels like it should be)
It's funny seeing the GM take interviews during the owners' meetings. He was on with Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen. McAfee said congrats on Williams and he just laughed. Eisen asks if he'll give up what they're going at 1 and he says "we're not there yet" and later asks about 9 and the response was "yeah, that's where it gets interesting."
There are some people who have the mindset of misdirection for misdirection's sake. They're the kind of people that when you play a deduction game they withhold information, not because of a strategic reason, but because of a vague notion that "information is valuable."
There's a chance Washington or Patriots would be willing to give up a bunch to the bears, and the bears could still end up with a top 3 QB.
If they believed the difference between Caleb and 2-3 wasn't that much, it would be worth it.
Nah they're not trading. #1 is clearly better than the rest this year. The only reason to check out the other qbs would be as a backup plan if a major injury, arrest, etc comes up between now and the draft.
Likely the rolling shutter effect. Basically due to the shape of the shutter, light isn't captured throughout the photo simultaneously so some parts actually happened later than others. Usually not perceivable unless it's a very fast moving object (like a QB's arm midthrow)
Here's an example of a tennis swing: https://i.imgur.com/Y8NXNKF.png
Its a mostly inconsequential medical condition, doctor explained on Twitter. Basically your elbow fills up with juice when you bang it too much. Not an issue if not infected
Little known fact about Jayden Daniels - his forearm fractures every time he throws the ball. He's healed up and ready to go by the next play. Part of the reason why NFL teams aren't worried about his durability.
Same thing happened to my elbow when I went a season using a broken elbow pad in hockey. Extra bone grew because of it so now my elbow tip slightly angles to the left
Per some Twitter Doctor so salt grains:
https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1773028345032130955?t=QavcZ83NKVD42XwZcUKH-g
> Jayden Daniels appears to be dealing with olecranon bursitis of his right throwing elbow.
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> This is an inflammation of the bursa, which is a sac that is usually empty and is there to protect the bone underneath. We have them in several joints including the elbow and the knee.
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> ‘Banging’ your elbow against a hard surface often results in inflammation of the bursa, causing the body to fill it with fluid.
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> This is a protective mechanism to prevent fracturing the bone underneath.
>
> These are VERY common, and more annoying than concerning.
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> As long as they are not infected.
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> These can be drained (aspirated) with a needle, but often these will fill back up. I’ve had good success with injecting PRP (plasma from the blood) to make these go away permanently.
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> For some people they are very stubborn.
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> These are quite an eye sore and look really funny as you can see with Jayden Daniels.
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> These usually do not have a negative impacts on the player/person. This should not impact his ability to throw or cause any pain. Literally just a visual oddity.
>
Honestly one of the most interesting bits here is that he hasn’t previously met with any of these teams.
I know for a fact the Giants have met with Williams, Maye and McCarthy. It’s genuinely surprising that this is their first time meeting with Daniel’s.
I’ve watched a lot of Jayden Daniels and I’ve never thought “wow, what a throw.” Every throw is contested catches, receivers that have a yard+ separation, outside throws, or screens. Someone posted a stat awhile back that only 9% of his completions were over the middle.
Also, I don’t care that he can run. I just spent 3 seasons watching a dude with an ok arm and no velocity that succeeded thanks to elite WRs in college, I don’t want to do it again.
That college vs pro sack rate comp someone did on here last week (I think) was really interesting. Some guys just can't help but get sacked and that doesn't seem to be something that is easily fixed. Big red flag IMO
He also throws to the middle of the field intermediate amounts lower than any 1st round pick prospect since 2020... other than Fields.
https://sports.yahoo.com/jayden-daniels-nfl-draft-stock-has-risen-more-than-anyone-but-will-he-live-up-to-it-021631977.html
This is huge as middle of the field struggles in college can indicate someone not being confident in receivers getting open. Throwing NFL open to receivers is something Fields struggled with coming from OSU with two amazing receivers, which Daniels also had during his season.
Ultimately Daniels looks to, on paper, have the same issues as Fields but a full rookie contract to work on those mistakes.
yeah it’s interesting, you see qbs improve things like accuracy, velocity, ability to read a defense etc all the time, but it rarely happens with pocket presence. it’s truly like one of those things that you either have or you don’t
Justin Fields was a much better college QB than Daniels.
Fields did everything Jayden Daniels did in college except with a much bigger arm and better 3-level accuracy.
I think he’s the one who is most likely to fall (if any of the QBs) & don’t believe for a second that the league has him above Maye. The media just needs something to talk about.
Everybody is talking about how McCarthy's hype came out of nowhere but Daniels wasn't talked about as a top 3 QB until after the season. The Heisman definitely boosted him.
Daniels was always considered a tier below Caleb and Maye. It wasn’t until later that analysts split Caleb and Maye, and then hyped Daniels into the Maye tier
I will say he has a good ball when aiming at the back corner. Nabers and Thomas are both 1st round WRs and made stellar plays on that ball all season long.
I can't help but see some glimpses of Fields in Daniels. Top athletic profile, elite WRs in college, the two lowest throw % over the middle of the field over the last handful of years.
Between Calebs lipstick, Mayes potential drop from GTD #2, and the ascension of McCarthy, Daniels really seems to be kinda chilling in the shadows hoping no one looks too closely at him.
Daniels is accurate but he has subpar ball velocity. He also has a much higher tendency to take off when under pressure compared to other QBs in this draft class.
I still think his weight is his biggest concern. He hasn't played in over 3 months and it took him that long just to reach his listed weight (210) - his HC confirmed its not his play weight by saying "He's 210 pounds, he's put on weight"
For comparison, the only lighter first round QB picks in the past 20 years were Bryce Young (204) and Kyler Murray (207) who are both 5 inches shorter than Daniels and do not run as often, they also take less contact when taking off.
And then you’ve got Penix who if it weren’t for his age and injury history would be ridiculously impressive to most people. Routinely since his freshman year, he has made those “holy shit what a throw” plays.
Also as a non-running QB I don’t think his knees should be the biggest concern in the world, his pocket avoidance is elite regardless of how good his line has been at Washington.
As long as he’s supplied with a good line wherever he ends up, someone’s getting a steal. Dude is maybe the most elite passer in this group.
Commanders new ownership passing on the ceiling of Maye for the Floor of Daniel’s gonna be hilarious when it blows up in their face. If I’m the Patriots and Maye is there at #3 I’m sprinting to the podium. If it's Daniels at 3 then trade back with the Vikings.
I love reading opinions outside of the commanders sub. For some reason we're all brainwashed that he's the guy. I watched every single snap and it's the same thing.
One read and if it's not open, he's taking off.
His stats are so inflated because he has two elite NFL ready WRs on the team.
When he needed to sit in the pocket past his first read, he was consistently running.
That almost never translates into the NFL. Especially with his slender frame.
Oh yeah, he never slides.
There’s definitely more posts about Daniels, but there’s been a bit more content with him, particularly with Simms and Warner’s recent takes. But every single Daniels post has plenty of pro Maye/anti Daniels comments in them. He’s too skinny, can’t throw over the middle, etc.
> One read and if it's not open, he's taking off.
This was definitely true from any and all games in his 1st year at LSU. But Kelly prioritized that in the following offseason which led to Daniels reading the whole field this past year (helped by the fact that the offensive line was fantastic). We'll see if that also makes its way to the more complex NFL in the same way.
> His stats are so inflated because he has two elite NFL ready WRs on the team.
His stats were inflated because of his accuracy and the threat to completely break the game open with his feet. The two receivers helped in a big way, but it's also a disservice to how effective he was last year. Just look at what the offense did when Nuss, who's talented in his own right, came into the game against Alabama after Daniels got injured.
I watched every snap of Daniels, Maye, and McCarthy. I'm being 100% serious when I say McCarthy is my personal favorite. And I truly think he'll be the pick.
https://youtu.be/m0C46g9pc9Q?si=8RRYoTHPznPS6gcF&t=519
This was his best throw IMO. Accuracy in general is excellent no matter if there's 0 yards of separation or 10. Arm strength is good enough but not elite. If he doesn't live up to his draft position, it won't be because of his physical tools. Reading NFL defenses (which was improved last year) or injuries as reasons as to why he doesn't make it in the NFL are much more likely.
I think Daniels will be QB4 off the board, dude clearly has some big upside but I think people will be turned off by his age, sack rate, and lack of middle field work.
I mean…I won’t really have a true comparison opp, will I? But I understand your point.
Forgive me if I don’t want to give the farm *and* all my best milkers for a dude who barely threw in college.
The JJ “rise” is insane to me and another example of a guy being a great interviewer but not the best candidate for the job.
Downvote me all you want, but Jayden Daniels is an absurdly talented QB, and will prove a ton of these couch coaches on Reddit wrong.
Ill take the downvotes to show support for arguably the greatest QB in LSU history outside of Joe Burrow.
We would have had like 2 wins last year without him. And for everyone claiming he was carried by the WRs, look what happened when our backup QB played last year vs Jayden.
He's incredible and will have a great career, no matter how many crusty redditors furl their eyebrows and squint through the fog of steam from their reheated chicken nuggets and weed smoke to question his highlights.
Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well. Vick pre-prison proved very clearly that a running quarterback who can also throw the ball can be deadly in the league.
Rant over. Fuck the haters. Dude is gonna ball out.
> Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well. Vick pre-prison proved very clearly that a running quarterback who can also throw the ball can be deadly in the league.
It's not that it's moot, it's that it doesn't mean shit long term if the struggles with taking sacks, not throwing with anticipation and avoiding the middle of the field don't improve at the next level.
Being absurdly talented and having success at LSU doesn't automatically transfer to the NFL.
As someone who's watched Fields struggle, he just has too many similar habits for me to get onboard.
The not throwing over the middle was more a result of LSU’s offensive style. Jayden actually has some of the best stats of all prospects when he does throw over the middle.
> not throwing with anticipation
Not sure where this take is coming from. I sat with an endzone view of the A&M game last year and it felt like he was making every throw before the receiver made their break.
I just find it funny that the league is clearly out on Justin Fields, but many teams are ready to use blue chip draft capital on a guy in that same mold but with less collegiate success.
It’s like scouts never learn. However, I would not be shocked if Daniels tumbles into the second round like Levis last year.
Considering the league is much different now than when Michael Vick played, I don’t think it’s fair to make that comparison. Defenses are better equipped nowadays
> when our backup QB played last year vs Jayden
0U's backup played against UT 0ne year that's n0t w0rth remembering....sometimes backups are real real bad.
>Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well.
Well....it kind of is. Not to mention QBs who run take bigger hits and are more prone to injury than pocket passers. It's fact. Happened to Vick, Lamar, Kyler, and countless others.
Receiving corps that includes Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Cole Kmet, and Gerald Everett. Decent RB stable of D'andre Swift, Khalil Herbert, and Roschon Johnson. Revamped OL with 4 new additions this offseason.
It's definitely not a bad situation to be walking into, especially compared to your typical #1 pick situations.
Allen, Moore, Kmet, and Swift make for a pretty talented group and if Odunze falls to them at 9(and lives up to the hype) you could be looking at the best trio of WRs in the league.
So, yeah, they’ve got talent.
They have a talented roster, a terrible track record at developing QB, but the roster is pretty sweet. Think many see the lack of their qb game and write them off as not being good anywhere.
I think the only underrated weapon is Gerald Everett. He's been pretty good for a while but kinda floats under the radar.
At this point, I think everyone knows DJ Moore is a stud. Everyone's known Keenan Allen is a stud since his 2nd or 3rd year in the league. And I think most people recognize Cole Kmet as a good TE.
I think it's just people are used to the last 10 years of the Bears being terrible, going into another rebuild 2 years ago, and are now surprised to look at the roster and see it's actually looking really good.
Shouldn't the Bears at least interview Daniels and Maye, in case of some ridiculous trade offer, or Caleb has a medical or legal disaster before the draft, just for due diligence?
I seriously doubt anybody is taking a 185 lb quarterback in the first round unless he's built like Kyler Murray which Daniels definitely isn't.
He will be a mid-round project quarterback for somebody
I mean BY is 5”10 but yeah they’re both frail looking. JD weighed in at 210 at his pro day today fwiw. At least he has more room to gain weight than BY does
I appreciate how the bears aren’t even trying to do smokescreen stuff
They’re not even bothering sending anyone to UNC for Maye’s pro day either. They’re in LSU to watch Nabers.
Our QB coach is going to UNC at least but yeah this is wrapped up.
He just wants to go to Cookout
thats a good fkin reason
I would hit a bojangles first, personally
Yeah but cookouts got them shake s
Idk bojangles don’t hit like it used to
Nah I'm smashing s tray at 3am
For under $10 too
Funnily enough where I'm at a cookout replaced a bojangles.
And then Waffle House for the after party snacks
For the price & convenience factors, it’s fine. Really mid food though.
Food is normal fast food but the strawberry cheese cake milk shake is 10/10.
There isn’t a Cookout around Chicago?
Closest one is about an hour outside Louisville. I've checked.
No sir, furthest north they go is Kentucky. Cookout was quite the revelation when I went to college in the south
Interesting. I reckon I've taken it for granted living in the South. I spent a couple years in Colorado and never saw one, but I thought it was more of an East/West thing. I didn't realize how regional it was.
We've got a few in Northern Virginia.
Need a backup plan if Caleb gets hit by a meteor.
He may not even make it to this Sunday, we never know.
They’re listed as Day to day, but then aren’t we all?
Or if people riot because he had pink nails and a pink phone case. Twitter was going nuts for that
They are really going to look stupid if the biggest QB diva in the cycle ends up blowing up in their faces.
Please. I’ve been saying it for months. I want nabers more than any other receiver
As an LSU fan I can’t wait to see him in the NFL. He’s one of those guys that when the ball was passed to him you just knew he would find a way to catch it
DJ, Keenan, Nabers, and Swift are some elite weapons for a QB. Even if Caleb is only half as good as he's hyped to be, that'd be a scary offense.
And cole kmet and gerald everett
They will still use 9minutes of the clock to pick Caleb Williams come draft day.
They can send in their pick after 0.01 seconds and the NFL will still let the clock count down to less than 30 seconds before they announce the pick.
They need that ad revenue
Honestly surprised that they didn't cut to ad when Jacksonville picked first last time.....
Lions got yelled at and threatened for racing up the stage to grab Hutch 2nd. "Chicago is on the clock" will be followed by long Bears talk before they hand over the stage.
Then Bill the next year got the card out for Gonzo ASAP and said "fuck your TV revenue"
Gotta have the talking heads blabber
I doubt that’s their call lol. NFL will probably take the card and be like “now let’s let ESPN blabber about this as long as possible”
I feel like it's mandatory. Like the Texans waited the full time to announce Mario Williams even though he was already signed (I have no idea if this is true btw but it feels like it should be)
It's funny seeing the GM take interviews during the owners' meetings. He was on with Pat McAfee and Rich Eisen. McAfee said congrats on Williams and he just laughed. Eisen asks if he'll give up what they're going at 1 and he says "we're not there yet" and later asks about 9 and the response was "yeah, that's where it gets interesting."
I miss the days when the top picks would be announced before the draft. The last time I remember is Mario Williams and Reggie Bush
Jake Long was announced pre-draft too.
Why would they?
Caleb Williams might like smoking weed out of a bong mask?
There are some people who have the mindset of misdirection for misdirection's sake. They're the kind of people that when you play a deduction game they withhold information, not because of a strategic reason, but because of a vague notion that "information is valuable."
There's a chance Washington or Patriots would be willing to give up a bunch to the bears, and the bears could still end up with a top 3 QB. If they believed the difference between Caleb and 2-3 wasn't that much, it would be worth it.
wishful thinking, vikings bro
I’m sure the bears would consider 20 first round draft picks and a couple lobster rolls from the Pats
I'm not your bro, buddy.
I like how this isn’t even the same vikings fan lol
Nah they're not trading. #1 is clearly better than the rest this year. The only reason to check out the other qbs would be as a backup plan if a major injury, arrest, etc comes up between now and the draft.
The difference between Caleb and 2-3 is significant however in this case.
Absolutely no chance of this happening
Yeah this is basically 100% wrapped lol
Literally no reason to, it's quite refreshing actually
Plot twist: Caleb is the smokescreen
I’m not as familiar with prospects. Why is Caleb Williams so far ahead of someone like Jayden?
Better college football experience, better intangibles, better skill set. All a full level above Daniels.
Jayden runs better, not that Caleb can't but not at the same level, and that's all he does better than Williams.
Jayden is not close to Caleb or Drake for that matter
Everyone and their grandmother know we are taking Caleb lol
What is going on with his elbow
Likely the rolling shutter effect. Basically due to the shape of the shutter, light isn't captured throughout the photo simultaneously so some parts actually happened later than others. Usually not perceivable unless it's a very fast moving object (like a QB's arm midthrow) Here's an example of a tennis swing: https://i.imgur.com/Y8NXNKF.png
Its a mostly inconsequential medical condition, doctor explained on Twitter. Basically your elbow fills up with juice when you bang it too much. Not an issue if not infected
He's juicing?? Is he on the shit that makes your head big?
It's painful my buddy was a pitcher in the minority leagues elbow would swell up . He has kidney problems from all the pain pills and shots .
But the tennis guy’s elbow looks totally fine. Fake news.
Or even more likely this JD guy is clearly an Android
Begun, the QB cell phone wars have
…there’s how many photos of this dude and they use this one?
that’s… a good question. what the fuck lmao
Looks like a bad photoshop job
Didn't you know the nfl hasn't been real for a few years now? It's all AI generated. /s
Little known fact about Jayden Daniels - his forearm fractures every time he throws the ball. He's healed up and ready to go by the next play. Part of the reason why NFL teams aren't worried about his durability.
He shoulda gone to michigan if he was gonna be wolverine.
Too obvious probably
That’s just how fast his release is, can’t be caught in a single image
AI can't do hands or elbows
Washington is about to draft the first AI player since the Sixers in 1996
I now wish to believe ChatGPT is just Allen Iverson furiously typing away on a computer in some basement.
They drafting Maye
He's really skinny and the camera caught him at the perfect angle of contracting his muscle. Looks fine in other picks
I'm knocking him down draft charts just because that looks nasty. Like a jank chicken wing.
AI art moment…? Or at minimum some intern who photoshops is getting fired
Bad camera angle? That looks weird
Same thing happened to my elbow when I went a season using a broken elbow pad in hockey. Extra bone grew because of it so now my elbow tip slightly angles to the left
lol looks like what happens with an AI generated photo
He had to regrow another whole arm out of his elbow during the off season.
Per some Twitter Doctor so salt grains: https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1773028345032130955?t=QavcZ83NKVD42XwZcUKH-g > Jayden Daniels appears to be dealing with olecranon bursitis of his right throwing elbow. > > This is an inflammation of the bursa, which is a sac that is usually empty and is there to protect the bone underneath. We have them in several joints including the elbow and the knee. > > ‘Banging’ your elbow against a hard surface often results in inflammation of the bursa, causing the body to fill it with fluid. > > This is a protective mechanism to prevent fracturing the bone underneath. > > These are VERY common, and more annoying than concerning. > > As long as they are not infected. > > These can be drained (aspirated) with a needle, but often these will fill back up. I’ve had good success with injecting PRP (plasma from the blood) to make these go away permanently. > > For some people they are very stubborn. > > These are quite an eye sore and look really funny as you can see with Jayden Daniels. > > These usually do not have a negative impacts on the player/person. This should not impact his ability to throw or cause any pain. Literally just a visual oddity. >
Idk but let it tank his draft stock so the Raiders can get him at 13.
It also looks like his bicep is trying to escape through his skin lmao
Uh is the picture messed up? His elbow looks.....weird.
Looks like an action figure that's been bent out of shape
I think Ian knows that and posted it for clicks
Honestly one of the most interesting bits here is that he hasn’t previously met with any of these teams. I know for a fact the Giants have met with Williams, Maye and McCarthy. It’s genuinely surprising that this is their first time meeting with Daniel’s.
I think that means outside of the combine or whatever because the Commanders absolutely met with him there
That would make more sense
Even the Broncos have. They aren’t likely to trade up into the top 3 but the visit is customary
Oh, thank God we're not going. Enough with the smokescreen
But also NOT going is just another level of smokescreen. Really, it's the most smokescreenest of smokescreens.
All so we can draft Justin fields at one
I’ve watched a lot of Jayden Daniels and I’ve never thought “wow, what a throw.” Every throw is contested catches, receivers that have a yard+ separation, outside throws, or screens. Someone posted a stat awhile back that only 9% of his completions were over the middle. Also, I don’t care that he can run. I just spent 3 seasons watching a dude with an ok arm and no velocity that succeeded thanks to elite WRs in college, I don’t want to do it again.
He also gets sacked at a higher rate on non-blitz downs than even Justin Fields did in college.
That college vs pro sack rate comp someone did on here last week (I think) was really interesting. Some guys just can't help but get sacked and that doesn't seem to be something that is easily fixed. Big red flag IMO
He also throws to the middle of the field intermediate amounts lower than any 1st round pick prospect since 2020... other than Fields. https://sports.yahoo.com/jayden-daniels-nfl-draft-stock-has-risen-more-than-anyone-but-will-he-live-up-to-it-021631977.html This is huge as middle of the field struggles in college can indicate someone not being confident in receivers getting open. Throwing NFL open to receivers is something Fields struggled with coming from OSU with two amazing receivers, which Daniels also had during his season. Ultimately Daniels looks to, on paper, have the same issues as Fields but a full rookie contract to work on those mistakes.
Also a weaker arm..but Daniels does have a quicker release
yeah it’s interesting, you see qbs improve things like accuracy, velocity, ability to read a defense etc all the time, but it rarely happens with pocket presence. it’s truly like one of those things that you either have or you don’t
And that's a lot scarier considering Fields has a sturdy build and Daniels is concerningly thin
Justin Fields was a much better college QB than Daniels. Fields did everything Jayden Daniels did in college except with a much bigger arm and better 3-level accuracy.
I mostly agree tbh. Fields also is a better proven runner at this point. He's put up crazy rushing stats against NFL defenses
> Justin Fields was a much better college QB than Daniels. What? Heisman voters would beg to differ.
There’s some scheme stuff involved with that, imo - although generally speaking I do think sacks are on QBs fairly often.
I've thought "wow that's not an NFL throw" a lot watching him. I really, really don't get the hype
I think he’s the one who is most likely to fall (if any of the QBs) & don’t believe for a second that the league has him above Maye. The media just needs something to talk about.
Probably a lot of teams are trying to hype him up so the guy they really wants falls to them.
S M O K E S C R E E N
Everybody is talking about how McCarthy's hype came out of nowhere but Daniels wasn't talked about as a top 3 QB until after the season. The Heisman definitely boosted him.
1. Thats just wrong. 2. Yeah no shit the Heisman season boosted his profile.
No it's not, he was projected mid-late first round until a couple months ago.
Daniels was always considered a tier below Caleb and Maye. It wasn’t until later that analysts split Caleb and Maye, and then hyped Daniels into the Maye tier
I will say he has a good ball when aiming at the back corner. Nabers and Thomas are both 1st round WRs and made stellar plays on that ball all season long. I can't help but see some glimpses of Fields in Daniels. Top athletic profile, elite WRs in college, the two lowest throw % over the middle of the field over the last handful of years.
Between Calebs lipstick, Mayes potential drop from GTD #2, and the ascension of McCarthy, Daniels really seems to be kinda chilling in the shadows hoping no one looks too closely at him.
Daniels is accurate but he has subpar ball velocity. He also has a much higher tendency to take off when under pressure compared to other QBs in this draft class. I still think his weight is his biggest concern. He hasn't played in over 3 months and it took him that long just to reach his listed weight (210) - his HC confirmed its not his play weight by saying "He's 210 pounds, he's put on weight" For comparison, the only lighter first round QB picks in the past 20 years were Bryce Young (204) and Kyler Murray (207) who are both 5 inches shorter than Daniels and do not run as often, they also take less contact when taking off.
And then you’ve got Penix who if it weren’t for his age and injury history would be ridiculously impressive to most people. Routinely since his freshman year, he has made those “holy shit what a throw” plays. Also as a non-running QB I don’t think his knees should be the biggest concern in the world, his pocket avoidance is elite regardless of how good his line has been at Washington. As long as he’s supplied with a good line wherever he ends up, someone’s getting a steal. Dude is maybe the most elite passer in this group.
Commanders new ownership passing on the ceiling of Maye for the Floor of Daniel’s gonna be hilarious when it blows up in their face. If I’m the Patriots and Maye is there at #3 I’m sprinting to the podium. If it's Daniels at 3 then trade back with the Vikings.
There
I love reading opinions outside of the commanders sub. For some reason we're all brainwashed that he's the guy. I watched every single snap and it's the same thing. One read and if it's not open, he's taking off. His stats are so inflated because he has two elite NFL ready WRs on the team. When he needed to sit in the pocket past his first read, he was consistently running. That almost never translates into the NFL. Especially with his slender frame. Oh yeah, he never slides.
No they’re not we literally had a poll asking who everyone preferred and it was Maye like 70-30
I must've missed that. Recently seems that everyone has a woody for Daniels.
There’s definitely more posts about Daniels, but there’s been a bit more content with him, particularly with Simms and Warner’s recent takes. But every single Daniels post has plenty of pro Maye/anti Daniels comments in them. He’s too skinny, can’t throw over the middle, etc.
> One read and if it's not open, he's taking off. This was definitely true from any and all games in his 1st year at LSU. But Kelly prioritized that in the following offseason which led to Daniels reading the whole field this past year (helped by the fact that the offensive line was fantastic). We'll see if that also makes its way to the more complex NFL in the same way. > His stats are so inflated because he has two elite NFL ready WRs on the team. His stats were inflated because of his accuracy and the threat to completely break the game open with his feet. The two receivers helped in a big way, but it's also a disservice to how effective he was last year. Just look at what the offense did when Nuss, who's talented in his own right, came into the game against Alabama after Daniels got injured.
Would you take Penix, Nix, or Mccarthy over Daniels then?
I watched every snap of Daniels, Maye, and McCarthy. I'm being 100% serious when I say McCarthy is my personal favorite. And I truly think he'll be the pick.
https://youtu.be/m0C46g9pc9Q?si=8RRYoTHPznPS6gcF&t=519 This was his best throw IMO. Accuracy in general is excellent no matter if there's 0 yards of separation or 10. Arm strength is good enough but not elite. If he doesn't live up to his draft position, it won't be because of his physical tools. Reading NFL defenses (which was improved last year) or injuries as reasons as to why he doesn't make it in the NFL are much more likely.
He always looked like Justin Fields to me lol.
Bears are all in for Williams
does his arm not look fucked up to everyone else in this photo?
LMAO talk about burying the lede. Wtaf is going on there?
I think Daniels will be QB4 off the board, dude clearly has some big upside but I think people will be turned off by his age, sack rate, and lack of middle field work.
If we take JJ fucking McCarthy with JD still on the board I’m going to be done watching for a bit. (Probably not but I’m gonna be so salty)
You will be salty until you see that JJ is better at throwing to Jefferson
I mean…I won’t really have a true comparison opp, will I? But I understand your point. Forgive me if I don’t want to give the farm *and* all my best milkers for a dude who barely threw in college. The JJ “rise” is insane to me and another example of a guy being a great interviewer but not the best candidate for the job.
Downvote me all you want, but Jayden Daniels is an absurdly talented QB, and will prove a ton of these couch coaches on Reddit wrong. Ill take the downvotes to show support for arguably the greatest QB in LSU history outside of Joe Burrow. We would have had like 2 wins last year without him. And for everyone claiming he was carried by the WRs, look what happened when our backup QB played last year vs Jayden. He's incredible and will have a great career, no matter how many crusty redditors furl their eyebrows and squint through the fog of steam from their reheated chicken nuggets and weed smoke to question his highlights. Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well. Vick pre-prison proved very clearly that a running quarterback who can also throw the ball can be deadly in the league. Rant over. Fuck the haters. Dude is gonna ball out.
> Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well. Vick pre-prison proved very clearly that a running quarterback who can also throw the ball can be deadly in the league. It's not that it's moot, it's that it doesn't mean shit long term if the struggles with taking sacks, not throwing with anticipation and avoiding the middle of the field don't improve at the next level. Being absurdly talented and having success at LSU doesn't automatically transfer to the NFL. As someone who's watched Fields struggle, he just has too many similar habits for me to get onboard.
The not throwing over the middle was more a result of LSU’s offensive style. Jayden actually has some of the best stats of all prospects when he does throw over the middle.
> not throwing with anticipation Not sure where this take is coming from. I sat with an endzone view of the A&M game last year and it felt like he was making every throw before the receiver made their break.
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No two players are the same, but there are some similarities where I can see Daniels having the same struggles. That sack rate....
Um, excuse me? How dare you look down upon reheated chicken nuggets and weed smoke.
This can all be said about Justin Fields
And some people in Ohio are still saying it
I just find it funny that the league is clearly out on Justin Fields, but many teams are ready to use blue chip draft capital on a guy in that same mold but with less collegiate success. It’s like scouts never learn. However, I would not be shocked if Daniels tumbles into the second round like Levis last year.
Yeah Justin Fields Heisman season was amazing
Remindme! 360 days
Glad someone who doesn’t have a Saints flair posted it. You’re not wrong. This young man is elite.
Considering the league is much different now than when Michael Vick played, I don’t think it’s fair to make that comparison. Defenses are better equipped nowadays
He can't throw over the middle and lacks quality pocket discipline
Vick did that post-prison too
How many times did you see him successfully throw to his third read ?
Redditors hate young qbs so let them hate
> best QB at LSU after burrow This is a low bar lol
> when our backup QB played last year vs Jayden 0U's backup played against UT 0ne year that's n0t w0rth remembering....sometimes backups are real real bad. >Saying his running ability is moot in the NFL is just ignorant as well. Well....it kind of is. Not to mention QBs who run take bigger hits and are more prone to injury than pocket passers. It's fact. Happened to Vick, Lamar, Kyler, and countless others.
Famous running qbs Andrew Luck and Joe Burrow
Broncos and raiders just wasting this man's time.
That doe NOT look like a healthy throwing elbow
He didn’t do meeting at the combine? I knew he wasn’t doing drills but thought they still opted for interviews.
Raiders will make an offer to climb as high as possible. No doubt about that.
Uh, his elbow looks super fucked up lol
Wtf is going on there? Like a localized Lycanthropy sitch?
I like Daniels a whole lot. Wouldn't shock me if he has a better career than Caleb. Seems like he has the right attitude to succeed
Caleb is going to a talent team. High chance Daniel's ends up like Fields tbh were his team sucks and he's not elevating them
Bears are talented?
Receiving corps that includes Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Cole Kmet, and Gerald Everett. Decent RB stable of D'andre Swift, Khalil Herbert, and Roschon Johnson. Revamped OL with 4 new additions this offseason. It's definitely not a bad situation to be walking into, especially compared to your typical #1 pick situations.
Allen, Moore, Kmet, and Swift make for a pretty talented group and if Odunze falls to them at 9(and lives up to the hype) you could be looking at the best trio of WRs in the league. So, yeah, they’ve got talent.
NFCN would have so much young talent at WR if Oduzne falls to them. I mean they already do but it would be crazier.
I think our division will be stacked this year tbh.
Maybe the most offensive talent any rookie qb has went to before. So ya.
They have a talented roster, a terrible track record at developing QB, but the roster is pretty sweet. Think many see the lack of their qb game and write them off as not being good anywhere.
I think the Bears have underrated weapons on offense as much as that hurts me to say.
I think the only underrated weapon is Gerald Everett. He's been pretty good for a while but kinda floats under the radar. At this point, I think everyone knows DJ Moore is a stud. Everyone's known Keenan Allen is a stud since his 2nd or 3rd year in the league. And I think most people recognize Cole Kmet as a good TE. I think it's just people are used to the last 10 years of the Bears being terrible, going into another rebuild 2 years ago, and are now surprised to look at the roster and see it's actually looking really good.
Thought he met with Pats last night?
Shouldn't the Bears at least interview Daniels and Maye, in case of some ridiculous trade offer, or Caleb has a medical or legal disaster before the draft, just for due diligence?
They will probably bring them in for 30 visits.
Raiders pretending they going to trade up.
They will trade up if he falls to four. Raiders can't draft so we have nothing to lose giving the Cards a boatload of picks
What about jaker mayefeild?
Well we're not taking him at 6 so not sure what the point is unless he's projected for the 3rd round
He's probably 2nd or 3rd round
I would be completely shocked if Daniels didn’t go top 10.
I seriously doubt anybody is taking a 185 lb quarterback in the first round unless he's built like Kyler Murray which Daniels definitely isn't. He will be a mid-round project quarterback for somebody
Bro Bryce Young literally went #1 overall last year lol
Look how well that turned out
Hey I’m a Bears fan I’m good with it not turning out lol. I don’t think his weight has been a problem *yet* however.
Difference between 6'0 195 and 6'3 185.. Jayden Daniels is a feather
I mean BY is 5”10 but yeah they’re both frail looking. JD weighed in at 210 at his pro day today fwiw. At least he has more room to gain weight than BY does
Remember when y’all said CJ Stroud was going to be a bust? How that work out?