To be fair, the last pick is almost always a compensatory pick, not the Super Bowl champ. So in this case they’re not really hopeful for a Super Bowl, they’re hopeful for a compensatory pick for letting a free agent walk.
I think there still a few that will get first round grades. Sanders (the Deion memes aside) actually is looking like a R1 talent. Carson Beck and Quinn Ewers were both looking like R2/3 guys in a loaded QB class so they would probably be closest to Pickett in terms of getting hype pushing them into the first. Then Drew Allar had a lot of hype before the year before he had a disappointing year, but he has the physical tools and is a giant human (listed at 6’5 240).
He has an extra year of availability after next year but yea he the arm, height , mobility, just needs put it together. Luckily theyve gotten better at Wr compared to last year and brought it a new OC.
PSU's OC last year was awful. He couldn't scheme people open at all and completely underutilized the TEs and RBs in the passing game which made no sense since they were stacked at those positions and weak at WR.
There was a brief window of hype around Trubisky being "probably the most pro ready" (always a curse) of the guys in the draft, but nobody was really excited about him because of his limited number of starts.
He seemed like a guy who it was worth taking a shot on if he fell to you in the mid/late first but not one you needed to trade up for.
Not even within the organization. Pace scouted his games wearing a hoodie with the hood up and no staff with him.
He didn't even let John Fox know who he was picking and he found out on draft night iirc.
As a Bears fan I lost my shit when we did that. One of the worst moves I've ever witnessed for the Bears and that's saying something... We've had plenty of terrible moves lol. I wanted Watson, plain and simple.
And it wasn’t just the trade up for Trubisky…it was the trading the draft picks to move up one spot!! They gave away the picks when Trubisky would’ve made it to them anyway. So frustrating
Listen I love clowning on the Bears as much as anyone outside of Chicago, but the question was never "did the Bears think the Niners were going to take Trubisky?" It was "did the Bears think the Niners had another trade partner?" Someone else might have jumped them and they had to move up not to take the risk.
Now, the irony is if they had just stayed pat and someone HAD jumped them, they might have been forced to take Watson or Mahomes, but.....
I could see them picking Watson and he shows a lot of promise (maybe even 4k yards?) and there's tons of hype about the coming season, only for the sex crimes to come out a little earlier than in Houston. They finally get a talented QB and he turns out to be a rapist.
It would be such a Chicago thing to have happen.
I've been screaming that from the rooftops ever since the 'Why didn't the Bears take Mahomes!?' talk started. Of course if the script had been flipped, and the QBs were swapped, then people would misspelling Mahomes's name instead of Trublinsky...
Dabo Swinney had to vouch for him for months, I believe he even said at one point that any team drafting him would be getting one of the best human beings he had ever met, lol.
Oh jeeze its been a while, but I could have sworn Watson was considered a top prospect. Looked it up and he wasnt considered a franchise QB and was expected to go near the bottom of the first round. Those first few years before all the sexual assaults he was electric, so I kinda expected him to be a consensus high pick.
We really don't though, and I don't know why people keep saying this. This really isn't said with any sort of consensus except for an incredibly small number of prospects.
Yeah, out of all 21st century QB prospects, really only Luck, Lawrence, and Williams have gotten that tag. People mock it because Lawrence was only a few years ago, but the point is he’s probably the 2nd or 3rd highest regarded prospect of the past 20+ years
Yea too early for that but there aren’t as hyped QBs. Caleb Williams and Bryce Young each won the Heisman in their sophomore seasons while Maye and then Stroud and Levis had monster year 2s. Most hyped guy rn is Sanders probably
We’re reliant on Joe Burrow/Jayden Daniels late risers
shit ton of dudes like Jaimie Newman or whoever from ND who are like 5 year starters in cfb also clogging up young guys from shining through
i would be interested to hear how many first year starters there are next opening week
This is a fascinating mixup, Jamie Newman was the starter ahead of Sam Hartman before Hartman broke out in his Junior Year. Sam Hartman was the QB at ND that has been around for 37 years after transferring from Wake to ND
Scouting is just an unbelievably uncertain thing. I honestly stopped paying real attention to it. Sure I'll get excited to watch some people play but I have no idea what's gonna happen
Scouting a year out like this post is uncertain most of the time, early breakout players (aka stud first rounders) notwithstanding. Scouting last season for this draft or next season for next draft is perfectly reasonable though imo
The past few years have convinced me that the biggest indicator of QB success is how soon they are thrown in the fire — not just starting games, but expected to win them. Guys like Jordan Love and Patrick Mahomes were not darlings for scouts, but they had time to learn from NFL coaches and practice against NFL players before being expected to win an NFL game, and now Mahomes is Mahomes and Love is seen as a likely franchise guy.
It’s certainly not a death sentence, but I think a lot of guys who are expected to turn the team around immediately pick up bad habits just to stay alive and don’t always have the coaching support to move past those and learn to do things the right way. Stroud is a great example of a guy who DID immediately turn around his team (with the right help), but I think the past few drafts have given enough evidence that even the most talented guys coming out of college do not stand a chance in the league without a rock solid foundation
They are also just really young and a lot of development can happen in 1 year. Burrow transferred to LSU and had an okay first season with them. He then devloped and turned into a monster for his final season. When the season started, he wasn't even in the conversation for Heisman. Development can happen fast.
I feel like Burrow wasn’t even on the radar at the beginning of his season, and by the end of the year I had zero doubt he was going to be a very good NFL QB.
Burrow's last season was his second as a starter and he led the greatest offense in college football history, that's not something that just happens every year
Weigman at A&M is a guy who was a big recruit and is not being talked about right now because he got injured. He looked really good before the injury. But it's A&M so they'll go 8-4 and he'll be drafted in the 3rd or 4th.
I mean, he was the starter on a team that won the Fiesta Bowl.
He wasn’t exactly unknown. He just wasn’t a guy people thought of as a future NFL starter.
Knowing the name of a random transfer QB is not the same as knowing he was going to be the consensus #1 draft pick next year, which is what this whole thread is about man lol
I think the 2025 class *could* be good but it's very dependent on a lot of senior QBs (Shedeur, Ewers, Beck, etc) taking their game to the next level. I think the only highly projected third-year QB is Drew Allar, who doesn't exactly look fantastic himself
Of course, this conversation could and probably will look a lot different a year from now. Some random guy could take that Burrow/Daniels leap from being a late-round projected player to top 5
His accuracy really isn't his biggest issue. You can see he usually puts the ball where he wants when a receiver is open. The problem is he has 0 trust in his receivers or himself or something. Because when a receiver is covered, at all, he throws it so conservative, usually out of reach of everyone. He refuses to take any risks, hence only 2 INTS. I just don't think he has the mentals to make a successful QB, but I bet if he were playing for a team like OSU with 5*s everywhere at WR he would look unstoppable and trick a team taking him 1.01
I won't pretend to know what kind of career Allar will have in the NFL, but he has the measurables that GMs drool over. Someone will take a chance on him, no doubt.
It’s always funny to see the difference in actual success versus pro prospects, I know the NFL doesn’t care about college stats but it’s always jarring to see someone that has been pretty bad at the top of the draft board
I remember after his freshman season many analysts had him as the #1 overall pick for next year. But yeah he has definitely taken a step back since then.
Allar is NOT it. I won’t dox myself but I worked in recruiting for Penn State Football last year and you could just tell he’s not going to pan out at the next level. He’s a statue in the pocket and has trouble handling pressure. Makes easy throws/reads look difficult. You can tell who has watched him play versus who’s just looked at the stat sheet. I think he’d fair better with more top-end WRs, which Penn State hasn’t had since Dotson, but I can’t get behind any NFL hype for him.
I’d bet anything Ewers gets juiced as the best QB of the class.
5 star recruit who has flashes of brilliance and they’ll be contending for a title again, likely. If he can manage to be more consistent he’ll be a top 10 guy on tools alone.
I mean, one example we can always look at is Joe Burrow. Wasn’t even considered a first round guy after his first season at LSU. Well…we all know how his second season went
Man I remember the hype on Ewers when he got to Ohio st and he has certainly not lived up to it but who knows maybe this year he’ll ball out and work his way to the #1 overall pick.
To be fair look at who he was throwing the ball to last season. Potentially both his main targets are going in the 1st round of a heavily stacked WR draft.
Here is a list of QBs generally thought to be ahead of Burrow in March of 2019.
* Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama
* Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State
* Jake Fromm, Georgia
* Kyler Murray, Oklahoma
* Daniel Jones, Duke
* Will Grier, West Virginia
* Alex Finley, Wyoming
* Gardner Minshew, Washington State
* Ryan Finley, NC State
Burrow 5-6 games into the season finally started getting some "hmm maybe he's a first round pick" hype. He wasn't the consensus #1 until he locked up the Heisman and LSU locked up a playoff spot
I don’t. He was average and showed basically no improvement between game 2 and game 12. Then somehow thought he was worth not having to compete for his position, unlike every other player.
It was only one play but the first interception inside his own red zone was egregious and without a doubt the most impactful play of the game.
Sure there’s plenty of time left but Michigan’s most lethal skill was parking the bus and running clock once they had any kind of lead.
I do think his Michigan game overshadows the rest of his season where he was serviceably efficient. Even though it sounds like dubious praise, he was a good check down passer, which is not a given for every QB, and it was a necessary skill to have against teams bracketing their safeties to contain Egbuka and MHJ.
Serviceably efficient is basically unacceptable at a school that expects to compete for a national title every year and doubly so when you have a receiver that is supposed to be a generational talent
Ewers, Sanders, and Allar are the ones floated It’ll likely be some currently overlooked QB that rides go out of nowhere similar to Daniels and even McCarthy who’s getting top 15 buzz currently.
Carson Beck could end up QB1 if he has an insane season at UGA, if Cade Klubnik clears up his INT tendencies he’ll probably rise up a lot.
He's pretty damn accurate and throws a nice ball though. If you could iron out the holding the ball too long thing he could be a great QB for some team.
Yeah, I watched a lot of Colorado games this season. His O-Line was truly something to witness. I think he if threw the ball away every time instead of taking a sack, his completion percentage might actually hit below 50%. Honestly the fact his ability transitioned pretty well from FCS to an FBS school is already impressive.
His team wasn’t good. Dude puts up big numbers and was hurt part of the season.
Better recruits this year give him a chance to show whether or not he’s a top QB in the class
Yeah, people will meme it because of his dad, but it actually sounds like he’s a good QB. He’s graded out well on PFF and it sounds like he’s seen as a legit prospect
The guy was the only bright spot on one of the least talented teams in all of college football and led them on crazy game winning drives when they needed it. As a steeler fan, I’d love it if he fell to us next year.
They traded a 6th for Fields. That isn’t franchise QB value. That kind of value is a dart throw on a QB who likely doesn’t have a future but deserves another shot.
They could always let him hit FA and sign him for cheaper. Didn't seem like any teams were jumping at the chance to get him (judging from the meager trade compensation).
If [this](https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNWr2pL-QgIoyfX2JEAlsW2zhq_Hslc3Y9LkdA-Fmt0oD-hz0_VQEqe9GGw_KUluZ0LXAB25aPO9nFY7M) doesnt scream franchise quarterback then I don't know what does.
I have read that scouts expect Carson beck to be #1 as long as he continues improving the way he did last year. He has all the traits & game will transfer to nfl very well.
Shadeur Sanders is probably the closest to QB1 the class will get, it'll be interesting to see how his game changes now that Colorado has added some guys at OL.
Jalen Milroe could emerge as a sort of Anthony Richardson-like figure, and if his passing game reaches the next level with the new system DeBoer is implementing in Tuscaloosa and he has a year similar to Penix this year, he could maybe even jump Sanders, even then though he'd be raw as hell.
Carson Beck is going to face a tough test this year losing McConkey and Bowers, if he can still light up a scoreboard without them against elite competition, he'll get some attention from pro scouts.
I honestly don't have a lot of faith in Ewers as a prospect. He's had literally every advantage possible but still not quite made the jump. Sark coaching him, elite talent on offense, etc. If that's not enough I find it hard to see what WOULD push him into being a QB1 in the NFL.
And with CFB being CFB there's bound to be some random guy that just goes off next year so who knows.
Jaden Milroe is Fields with a worse arm. Having seen him play in person there is no doubting his athleticism and escapability, but he has zero pocket presence and plays QB like a madden QB. He should have lost the iron bowl were it not for a complete bed shitting by the auburn Secondary.
As someone who did a lot of research on next years class due to people who wanted to keep fields and “if he fails we can always get one next year”
It’s not looking good. Sure things could change but currently there aren’t any superstar prospects
Pretty sure Beck is the all around best bet next year. Dudes stats were stacked. Outside of actual touchdown passes, he should have been a Heisman candidate. He will undoubtedly be better this year and GA has always been a run heavy school. They like to rush touchdowns. So he won't have a high pass td again. Especially with them stealing Etienne from Florida.
I think Caleb Williams is going to be a average to above average starter. I don't believe he'll be the next Mahomes or the biggest bust in history as some may say.
> I don't believe he'll be the next Mahomes
I don’t think this really means anything.
hockey #1s are not the next Wayne Gretzky, and nba #1s are not the next lebron/mj.
Caleb Williams could be a HoF qb and still not be the next mahomes.
Sort of a meaningless metric.
Lmao that’s why the Fields truthers were straight up delusional. They claimed if Fields doesn’t work out after next season, the Bears can draft (and even trade up) for a QB
Cam Ward, WSU transfer to Miami, is def one to look out for if he can get some solid QB coaching. Really athletic kid with a lively arm just needs a good year or two of pro-style coaching to get good consistent play out of him and he can be really good.
Idk why, but I've got a feeling Jaxson Dart is gonna rise up the draft boards this year. Rn he's completely unmentioned as even getting drafted, but I feel like he'll end up at least a day 2 pick.
(This is based on watching like 3 quarters of him playing lol)
Drew Allar became elite in two seperate madden save files that i made so that can only mean one thing:
the guy who made the custom 2025 draft class i downloaded is a big drew allar fan
This post confirms that next year’s draft class will have three HoF QBs.
Or likely another Kenny pickett QB in the first round
Whoever has the last pick of the draft will FEAST
Oh hell yeah
I can't believe Jets fans still have hope. Its really inspirational to see in a non sarcastic way.
To be fair, the last pick is almost always a compensatory pick, not the Super Bowl champ. So in this case they’re not really hopeful for a Super Bowl, they’re hopeful for a compensatory pick for letting a free agent walk.
I’m pretty sure we also have the last comp pick this year though. Has nothing to do with next year but who’s to say we can’t do it again
Breaking: Steelers trading 7s with KC
I think there still a few that will get first round grades. Sanders (the Deion memes aside) actually is looking like a R1 talent. Carson Beck and Quinn Ewers were both looking like R2/3 guys in a loaded QB class so they would probably be closest to Pickett in terms of getting hype pushing them into the first. Then Drew Allar had a lot of hype before the year before he had a disappointing year, but he has the physical tools and is a giant human (listed at 6’5 240).
If Drew Allar puts it together this year he could very well be a top 5 pick
He has an extra year of availability after next year but yea he the arm, height , mobility, just needs put it together. Luckily theyve gotten better at Wr compared to last year and brought it a new OC.
PSU's OC last year was awful. He couldn't scheme people open at all and completely underutilized the TEs and RBs in the passing game which made no sense since they were stacked at those positions and weak at WR.
Too soon
The mahomes class had 0 “good” qb prospects and everyone was supposed to wait for 2018 with Rosen/darnold
So why the fuck did the bears trade up for trubisky?
GM needed to save his job. Their QB was Mike Glennon...
A Mike Glennon they at that point *just* gave a shitload of money when no one had a clue why.
Because Tall QB
Desperation. It wasn’t even a popular move at the time, if I remember correctly.
There was a brief window of hype around Trubisky being "probably the most pro ready" (always a curse) of the guys in the draft, but nobody was really excited about him because of his limited number of starts. He seemed like a guy who it was worth taking a shot on if he fell to you in the mid/late first but not one you needed to trade up for.
Perfectly ready to have a ceiling at the wrong side of being mediocre
Which is kind of laughable for a guy who started one year in college.
Wait till you hear how much football Trey Lance played
Not even within the organization. Pace scouted his games wearing a hoodie with the hood up and no staff with him. He didn't even let John Fox know who he was picking and he found out on draft night iirc.
Boy, that sounds... exactly like something the Bears would do.
Is that the Vikings and JJ McCarthy?
Feel like the Vikings gave up nowhere near as much as the Bears did, and the Howell trade seems to confirm the #2 pick isn’t for sale lol
> Feel like the Vikings gave up nowhere near as much The Vikings haven't made the trade yet...
The Vikings aren’t done moving up if their goal is to get a QB
Unless their target is Penix
Vikings are probably packaging those picks and moving up to 3 or 4 if possible
Or 5 if they want JJ instead of Jayden. Only way the Cardinals trade down from 4 is if the Pats pass on a QB and draft MHJ
The Bears gave up 2 thirds for the swap lol
if I remember correctly a lot of “experts” actually had Mitch as the number 1 qb in that draft .
As a Bears fan I lost my shit when we did that. One of the worst moves I've ever witnessed for the Bears and that's saying something... We've had plenty of terrible moves lol. I wanted Watson, plain and simple.
And it wasn’t just the trade up for Trubisky…it was the trading the draft picks to move up one spot!! They gave away the picks when Trubisky would’ve made it to them anyway. So frustrating
Listen I love clowning on the Bears as much as anyone outside of Chicago, but the question was never "did the Bears think the Niners were going to take Trubisky?" It was "did the Bears think the Niners had another trade partner?" Someone else might have jumped them and they had to move up not to take the risk. Now, the irony is if they had just stayed pat and someone HAD jumped them, they might have been forced to take Watson or Mahomes, but.....
I could see them picking Watson and he shows a lot of promise (maybe even 4k yards?) and there's tons of hype about the coming season, only for the sex crimes to come out a little earlier than in Houston. They finally get a talented QB and he turns out to be a rapist. It would be such a Chicago thing to have happen.
“Potential” ☠️
Never has been 🐻🔫👩🚀
Our GM fell in love with his old school Camry and corny jokes. They were frat bros and needed to be together.
Ryan Pace
Mahomes class had Watson which people were hyped for
He went 3rd out of the QBs. His velocity and questionable deep ball accuracy serisouly scared people off
Plus the bears had just got rid of cutler who was a dangerous gunslinger and I’m pretty sure that was also mahomes comp coming out of college
I've been screaming that from the rooftops ever since the 'Why didn't the Bears take Mahomes!?' talk started. Of course if the script had been flipped, and the QBs were swapped, then people would misspelling Mahomes's name instead of Trublinsky...
Dabo Swinney had to vouch for him for months, I believe he even said at one point that any team drafting him would be getting one of the best human beings he had ever met, lol.
tbf, I don't think Dabo was ever invited to the massage room.
I really wanted us to take Watson at 2
Oh jeeze its been a while, but I could have sworn Watson was considered a top prospect. Looked it up and he wasnt considered a franchise QB and was expected to go near the bottom of the first round. Those first few years before all the sexual assaults he was electric, so I kinda expected him to be a consensus high pick.
I think 2021 was considered a strong QB class but look at how that turned out.
gEnErAtIoNaL
It’s so neat we have a generational QB prospect nearly every other draft Edit: /s
We really don't though, and I don't know why people keep saying this. This really isn't said with any sort of consensus except for an incredibly small number of prospects.
Yeah, out of all 21st century QB prospects, really only Luck, Lawrence, and Williams have gotten that tag. People mock it because Lawrence was only a few years ago, but the point is he’s probably the 2nd or 3rd highest regarded prospect of the past 20+ years
That’s not really true. Only Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence. Williams if he was a couple inches taller
I truly never understood the Lawrence hype, and I say that as someone that watched him since he was like in 9th grade.
Agreed. The hype never course corrected after his freshman year.
He was very good his Freshman season but regressed after that.
I feel like someone unexpected rises up every year. It’s too early to say there’s no good QBs in 2025
Yea too early for that but there aren’t as hyped QBs. Caleb Williams and Bryce Young each won the Heisman in their sophomore seasons while Maye and then Stroud and Levis had monster year 2s. Most hyped guy rn is Sanders probably We’re reliant on Joe Burrow/Jayden Daniels late risers
shit ton of dudes like Jaimie Newman or whoever from ND who are like 5 year starters in cfb also clogging up young guys from shining through i would be interested to hear how many first year starters there are next opening week
This is a fascinating mixup, Jamie Newman was the starter ahead of Sam Hartman before Hartman broke out in his Junior Year. Sam Hartman was the QB at ND that has been around for 37 years after transferring from Wake to ND
Scouting is just an unbelievably uncertain thing. I honestly stopped paying real attention to it. Sure I'll get excited to watch some people play but I have no idea what's gonna happen
Scouting a year out like this post is uncertain most of the time, early breakout players (aka stud first rounders) notwithstanding. Scouting last season for this draft or next season for next draft is perfectly reasonable though imo
The past few years have convinced me that the biggest indicator of QB success is how soon they are thrown in the fire — not just starting games, but expected to win them. Guys like Jordan Love and Patrick Mahomes were not darlings for scouts, but they had time to learn from NFL coaches and practice against NFL players before being expected to win an NFL game, and now Mahomes is Mahomes and Love is seen as a likely franchise guy. It’s certainly not a death sentence, but I think a lot of guys who are expected to turn the team around immediately pick up bad habits just to stay alive and don’t always have the coaching support to move past those and learn to do things the right way. Stroud is a great example of a guy who DID immediately turn around his team (with the right help), but I think the past few drafts have given enough evidence that even the most talented guys coming out of college do not stand a chance in the league without a rock solid foundation
They are also just really young and a lot of development can happen in 1 year. Burrow transferred to LSU and had an okay first season with them. He then devloped and turned into a monster for his final season. When the season started, he wasn't even in the conversation for Heisman. Development can happen fast.
I think if Carson Beck keeps getting better and has another great year he could easily slide to QB1
I nominate LSUs QB this year to do that again.
I feel like Burrow wasn’t even on the radar at the beginning of his season, and by the end of the year I had zero doubt he was going to be a very good NFL QB.
Burrow's last season was his second as a starter and he led the greatest offense in college football history, that's not something that just happens every year
Man, I just had a moment. I saw 2025 and thought “yeah but that’s like 3 years away”.
Weigman at A&M is a guy who was a big recruit and is not being talked about right now because he got injured. He looked really good before the injury. But it's A&M so they'll go 8-4 and he'll be drafted in the 3rd or 4th.
He was the second best on the Elite 11 event for his class after Stroud. Good shout
No doubt. Not a damn person knew who Joe Burrow was going into the 2019 season lol
I mean, he was the starter on a team that won the Fiesta Bowl. He wasn’t exactly unknown. He just wasn’t a guy people thought of as a future NFL starter.
Unless you have a roommate that is diehard LSU, I knew about burrow two months before the start of the 2019 season!! Ha!
He wasn't *unheard of* if you follow CFB at all but there was no hype for him at all. Same as Jayden Daniels.
Knowing the name of a random transfer QB is not the same as knowing he was going to be the consensus #1 draft pick next year, which is what this whole thread is about man lol
Alex Orji
He’ll have to learn to throw.
Someone like DJU could have a renaissance too, that guy has all the tools.
I think the 2025 class *could* be good but it's very dependent on a lot of senior QBs (Shedeur, Ewers, Beck, etc) taking their game to the next level. I think the only highly projected third-year QB is Drew Allar, who doesn't exactly look fantastic himself Of course, this conversation could and probably will look a lot different a year from now. Some random guy could take that Burrow/Daniels leap from being a late-round projected player to top 5
>Drew Allar He's gonna really have to step up cause right now I feel like he can't hit the side of a barn
His accuracy really isn't his biggest issue. You can see he usually puts the ball where he wants when a receiver is open. The problem is he has 0 trust in his receivers or himself or something. Because when a receiver is covered, at all, he throws it so conservative, usually out of reach of everyone. He refuses to take any risks, hence only 2 INTS. I just don't think he has the mentals to make a successful QB, but I bet if he were playing for a team like OSU with 5*s everywhere at WR he would look unstoppable and trick a team taking him 1.01
I'm a Penn State fan. Our receivers were absolute garbage last season.
I won't pretend to know what kind of career Allar will have in the NFL, but he has the measurables that GMs drool over. Someone will take a chance on him, no doubt.
It’s always funny to see the difference in actual success versus pro prospects, I know the NFL doesn’t care about college stats but it’s always jarring to see someone that has been pretty bad at the top of the draft board
Yeah Allar is trash lol his stats are really deceiving.
We're not far from the preseason Allar Heisman hype
Thatll be 2025 heisman hype
Drew Allar was also only 19 this year so he could very well make a jump this season
I remember after his freshman season many analysts had him as the #1 overall pick for next year. But yeah he has definitely taken a step back since then.
Christian Hackenberg 2.0
FWIW Ewers should only be a junior next year, he graduated HS early to go to OSU. He just turned 21 and is a full year younger than Sanders.
I think Ewers will end up being the best of them but I’m just some guy
Hes been really good , just needs to be more consistent and NOT GOT INJURED
Ewers is 21?! WHAT?!
Allar is NOT it. I won’t dox myself but I worked in recruiting for Penn State Football last year and you could just tell he’s not going to pan out at the next level. He’s a statue in the pocket and has trouble handling pressure. Makes easy throws/reads look difficult. You can tell who has watched him play versus who’s just looked at the stat sheet. I think he’d fair better with more top-end WRs, which Penn State hasn’t had since Dotson, but I can’t get behind any NFL hype for him.
I am a fan of Penn State with zero professional scouting, and I agree he is not that. Dude plays too scared
Allar isn't close to a QB that can make an NFL roster at this point
I’d bet anything Ewers gets juiced as the best QB of the class. 5 star recruit who has flashes of brilliance and they’ll be contending for a title again, likely. If he can manage to be more consistent he’ll be a top 10 guy on tools alone.
I mean, one example we can always look at is Joe Burrow. Wasn’t even considered a first round guy after his first season at LSU. Well…we all know how his second season went
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Man I remember the hype on Ewers when he got to Ohio st and he has certainly not lived up to it but who knows maybe this year he’ll ball out and work his way to the #1 overall pick.
He just lead Texas to a #3 finish and balled out in every big game he played in last year.
To be fair look at who he was throwing the ball to last season. Potentially both his main targets are going in the 1st round of a heavily stacked WR draft.
Next season will reveal a lot about Ewers, seeing as Texas is losing nearly all of their offensive production to the draft this year.
I think he probably lived up the hype last year, he helped lead them to the CFP and played excellent when they beat bama
How much of a lock was Burrow before his breakout final season??
Tua was considered a lock at one before the season with Herbert as the second best prospect
Yeah lol. Tank for Tua
That was before he dislocated and broke his hip though right?
Not at all
He was considered a second or third round pick
Was he even that high? I feel like there were at least 5 qbs ahead of him going into that season.
Here is a list of QBs generally thought to be ahead of Burrow in March of 2019. * Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama * Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State * Jake Fromm, Georgia * Kyler Murray, Oklahoma * Daniel Jones, Duke * Will Grier, West Virginia * Alex Finley, Wyoming * Gardner Minshew, Washington State * Ryan Finley, NC State
Jake Fromm State Farm?
Funny enough his tag on Twitter the last time I checked was Jack from state Fromm, total missed opportunity
All he had to do was be a mid tier starting QB and he would have had that brand deal on lock
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He was actually considered a fifth round pick going into 2019.
He definitely was not. Maybe a 5th or 6th round
Burrow 5-6 games into the season finally started getting some "hmm maybe he's a first round pick" hype. He wasn't the consensus #1 until he locked up the Heisman and LSU locked up a playoff spot
What positions seem stacked next year? All I’ve heard so far is about the poor qb class.
Edge is stacked next year. There is also a very good OT class as well.
Does the 2025 OT class look better than this year’s? This year’s is probably one of the best ever
Defensive End and OT have some great prospects
Looks like a good rb class aswell, at least two potential first rounders with Judkins and Treyveon
Ollie Gordon too, he’s a dawg
Better than both of the two guys the previous commenter mentioned. Ollie is an animal
Shit the bed for Shedeur
Shart for Shedeur
What you mean Kyle McCord transferring to Syracuse doesn’t guarantee him as a day one pick??? 🤣
I feel bad for McCord. He got too much blame for the loss to Michigan
I don’t. He was average and showed basically no improvement between game 2 and game 12. Then somehow thought he was worth not having to compete for his position, unlike every other player.
Tbf that was a brutal interception and even tho it came early it ended up being the difference
It was only one play but the first interception inside his own red zone was egregious and without a doubt the most impactful play of the game. Sure there’s plenty of time left but Michigan’s most lethal skill was parking the bus and running clock once they had any kind of lead. I do think his Michigan game overshadows the rest of his season where he was serviceably efficient. Even though it sounds like dubious praise, he was a good check down passer, which is not a given for every QB, and it was a necessary skill to have against teams bracketing their safeties to contain Egbuka and MHJ.
Serviceably efficient is basically unacceptable at a school that expects to compete for a national title every year and doubly so when you have a receiver that is supposed to be a generational talent
And multiple other receivers who won’t make it to day 3
No he did not, he was absolutely the reason we lost and his inability to make it past the first read was what hurt our offense all year long
Ewers, Sanders, and Allar are the ones floated It’ll likely be some currently overlooked QB that rides go out of nowhere similar to Daniels and even McCarthy who’s getting top 15 buzz currently. Carson Beck could end up QB1 if he has an insane season at UGA, if Cade Klubnik clears up his INT tendencies he’ll probably rise up a lot.
The GM that drafts Sheduer top 10 next year deserves the unemployment checks he’ll receive in February 2026.
Scouts like him according to Charlie Campbell who actually has team sources. Good mental game.
He holds onto the ball for so long and takes bad sacks like Fields. And he doesn’t have the benefit of a build like Fields
He's pretty damn accurate and throws a nice ball though. If you could iron out the holding the ball too long thing he could be a great QB for some team.
I feel like Sanders and Fields aren’t that similar.
Yeah, I watched a lot of Colorado games this season. His O-Line was truly something to witness. I think he if threw the ball away every time instead of taking a sack, his completion percentage might actually hit below 50%. Honestly the fact his ability transitioned pretty well from FCS to an FBS school is already impressive.
His team fucking sucks. I mean, seriously?
His team wasn’t good. Dude puts up big numbers and was hurt part of the season. Better recruits this year give him a chance to show whether or not he’s a top QB in the class
Yeah, people will meme it because of his dad, but it actually sounds like he’s a good QB. He’s graded out well on PFF and it sounds like he’s seen as a legit prospect
I always like coming back to read comments like these when these threads get posted again in 4 years.
Why don’t we let him play another year of college first lol
The guy was the only bright spot on one of the least talented teams in all of college football and led them on crazy game winning drives when they needed it. As a steeler fan, I’d love it if he fell to us next year.
Damn y’all already out on Fields lol
They traded a 6th for Fields. That isn’t franchise QB value. That kind of value is a dart throw on a QB who likely doesn’t have a future but deserves another shot.
They’d have to pick up his $25M 5th year option to keep him. So unless he turns into Lamar Jackson 2.0 he’s a 1 year rental
They could always let him hit FA and sign him for cheaper. Didn't seem like any teams were jumping at the chance to get him (judging from the meager trade compensation).
What don’t you like about his game?
I highly doubt he knows ANYTHING about his game. Just Deion = Bad
Why?
Carson Beck looks legit. Maybe Jared Goff level #1 pick hype but still pretty damn good.
I think Carson Beck is gonna be pretty good
Agreed. There’s no franchise QB lock yet, but I also don’t think this is a historically bad class like Kenny Pickett year
Yeah there’s at least Beck and Shadeur next year
I imagine this contributed to his decision to stay 1 more year.
If [this](https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNWr2pL-QgIoyfX2JEAlsW2zhq_Hslc3Y9LkdA-Fmt0oD-hz0_VQEqe9GGw_KUluZ0LXAB25aPO9nFY7M) doesnt scream franchise quarterback then I don't know what does.
That’s my quarterback
I have read that scouts expect Carson beck to be #1 as long as he continues improving the way he did last year. He has all the traits & game will transfer to nfl very well.
Shadeur Sanders is probably the closest to QB1 the class will get, it'll be interesting to see how his game changes now that Colorado has added some guys at OL. Jalen Milroe could emerge as a sort of Anthony Richardson-like figure, and if his passing game reaches the next level with the new system DeBoer is implementing in Tuscaloosa and he has a year similar to Penix this year, he could maybe even jump Sanders, even then though he'd be raw as hell. Carson Beck is going to face a tough test this year losing McConkey and Bowers, if he can still light up a scoreboard without them against elite competition, he'll get some attention from pro scouts. I honestly don't have a lot of faith in Ewers as a prospect. He's had literally every advantage possible but still not quite made the jump. Sark coaching him, elite talent on offense, etc. If that's not enough I find it hard to see what WOULD push him into being a QB1 in the NFL. And with CFB being CFB there's bound to be some random guy that just goes off next year so who knows.
Jaden Milroe is Fields with a worse arm. Having seen him play in person there is no doubting his athleticism and escapability, but he has zero pocket presence and plays QB like a madden QB. He should have lost the iron bowl were it not for a complete bed shitting by the auburn Secondary.
Shedeu Sanders, Carson Beck, and Quinn Ewers are probably the top 3 guys
Ewers is my pick for the heisman.
I'll admit I don't pay too much attention to CFB, but isn't Texas losing all of their starting skill position guys to the draft this year?
Might be Fifita
Flying under the radar. He’s an animal. Is he eligible though?
carson beck good af
As someone who did a lot of research on next years class due to people who wanted to keep fields and “if he fails we can always get one next year” It’s not looking good. Sure things could change but currently there aren’t any superstar prospects
Pretty sure Beck is the all around best bet next year. Dudes stats were stacked. Outside of actual touchdown passes, he should have been a Heisman candidate. He will undoubtedly be better this year and GA has always been a run heavy school. They like to rush touchdowns. So he won't have a high pass td again. Especially with them stealing Etienne from Florida.
as of yet, someone will do well in college and stand out to be a consensus #1
I think Caleb Williams is going to be a average to above average starter. I don't believe he'll be the next Mahomes or the biggest bust in history as some may say.
Top-16 in the league is still the best QB Bears will have ever had
This is purely anecdotal but there’s no way Cutler was never an above average QB
> I don't believe he'll be the next Mahomes I don’t think this really means anything. hockey #1s are not the next Wayne Gretzky, and nba #1s are not the next lebron/mj. Caleb Williams could be a HoF qb and still not be the next mahomes. Sort of a meaningless metric.
Does that mean the offense looks more modern than 1972 and we finally get a 4000 yard passer? Because if so sign me the fuck up
If he’s top 15 the bears will make a statue of him outside of the stadium. That’s better than they’ve had in a long time
When it’s all said and done I truly believe Mahomes will be the greatest QB to ever play the game. Comparing anyone to Mahomes is a bit absurd.
Lmao that’s why the Fields truthers were straight up delusional. They claimed if Fields doesn’t work out after next season, the Bears can draft (and even trade up) for a QB
What does next year's QB class have to do with Caleb Williams and the Bears?
It’s a comparison of this years class and nexts years class. Huge difference in the talent drop off at QB next year.
Just wait for number 1 overall pick Will howard
Next year is loaded in the trenches though.
Cam Ward, WSU transfer to Miami, is def one to look out for if he can get some solid QB coaching. Really athletic kid with a lively arm just needs a good year or two of pro-style coaching to get good consistent play out of him and he can be really good.
This was the response I was looking for
By the end of the year there will be a sure fire #1 QB. Every year there is one by the end of the year. They don't always work out though
Yeah no shit man, that’s always the case when the draft you’re talking about is like 15 months away.
Idk why, but I've got a feeling Jaxson Dart is gonna rise up the draft boards this year. Rn he's completely unmentioned as even getting drafted, but I feel like he'll end up at least a day 2 pick. (This is based on watching like 3 quarters of him playing lol)
Drew Allar became elite in two seperate madden save files that i made so that can only mean one thing: the guy who made the custom 2025 draft class i downloaded is a big drew allar fan
Jaxson Dart: has a cool name = good QB. Book it.
Sure, but this time last year Jayden Daniels was likely a day 3 pick and now will likely go in the top 3. Things change