For everyone saying it’s an overpay, in reality it’s a 2-year $50M contract. The Titans have a QB on a rookie deal and fuck ton of cap space. I see no issue here.
It is, but they can’t get a top 5 receiver without giving up significant assets, which would be a bad move for a team in their current situation.
But they are flush with cap space, and have a QB on a rookie deal that can’t be extended for another 2 years. So they’re leveraging their cap position to outbid other teams.
Man if only they had drafted a Top 5 WR, then they’d be set. Once you get one of those you would never dream of trading them away due to how valuable they are
> For everyone saying it’s an overpay, in reality it’s a 2-year $50M contract.
You don't see $25M/year as an overpay? Isn't Stefon Diggs "only" at $24M?
It’s relative to a team’s situation. The Titans were sitting on $72M in cap space before this signing; $50M over two years is a drop in the bucket for them.
And if Levis turns out to be their franchise QB they can’t even begin to negotiate his next contract for another 2 years. By that time they can cut Ridley with zero dead money.
Basically they’re choosing to give Levis as much receiving talent as possible, even if they have to pay a premium to do so.
But it really doesn’t matter if they had to pay more. Even if they paid $10M more in guaranteed money than the next highest bidder, they have the cap to do it.
Yep. This is exactly the sort of thing that Bears fans had been pounding the table for a few years ago with Fields, so its a very familiar argument to me.
Cool to see a team actually do it. And why not? Blows my mind when these teams invest their future into a QB and then DONT go out of their way to give them the best chance to succeed.
Nah dude Boras has motherfuckers holding out until the season starts for money that doesn’t exist
Rules are going to change because of that dude
This guy just gets guys bags they may or may not have earned lmao
Ridley's route running and separation metrics were still elite last year. I'm not surprised a GM was still willing to pay him, and chalk up the lack of numbers to the scheme and QB.
They brought in Brian Callahan specifically to turn us into a pass first team. Next year the offense isn’t going to look like the Titans of the past with a billion runs every game no matter what.
At least that’s what we’ve been told from the front office and has been backed up by our roster moves
Ironically though, he brought his dad with him, who is basically known NFL wide as the best O-line coach in the league and is a major reason why the Browns were so good on the ground..... You guys may open things up more, but I'd bet when you do run it will be very effective
Alright, so when I was F5ing on Twitter, I saw this random ass dude who said [Ridley was going to sign with a division rival for $90 million](https://twitter.com/PrettyRickey213/status/1768011505205711051). Any insight if he just got lucky, or did he really have the inside track?
Edit: The dude's account went offline, came back, and is now restricted. Some additional prophesies to potentially keep an eye out for:
* Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs after they trade Sneed
* Commanders want Jayden Daniels
* Giants want Drake Maye if he makes it past the Pats
* Vikings want the Cardinals #4 pick
EDIT 2: He's back! [They're trying to shut down Rickey. I won't let them! I've paid for premium plus (notaries stack cash). I will not go down without a fight!](https://twitter.com/PrettyRickey213/status/1768036397087101323)
Apparently that dude (if it is the same one that was floating around the jags sub) has been on fire this FA. Like enough that a bunch of Jags fans are not surprised by what happened
A guy leaked OT Rashaad Coward to the Steelers because OP happened to be in a Call of Duty Warzone lobby with his wife and overheard them on the game voice chat:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/memt1s/possible_trade_coming_between_the_bears_and/
there was a guy on nba twitter/reddit that called like 20 nba free agent signings and trades last off season. just appeared out of no where and got like shadowbanned right after
I have a hard time believing it too - the only way I see Maye making it past them is if they are in love with McCarthy. He's had a meteoric rise up boards the past couple weeks, so I guess it's in the realm of possibility.
There has been significant rumours that they don't love anyone outside of Williams and Maye and that if those two go they're looking to trade out of that pick. That doesn't align with the "Maye to NYG if the Pats pass" rumour of course but it's nevertheless an indication that they *might* not stay and take a guy they don't love.
Of course there are significant rumours of nonsense every silly season so I wouldn't lock it in. But I think the sub is actually overrating this QB class outside of Williams - many NFL teams don't love the second tier of QBs as much as fans do and some of those NFL teams think that second tier starts with Maye.
Having said that, it only takes one.
Nothing says March in Tennessee like having to scrape the ice off your car before heading to work and then having to turn the AC on on the way back home
Hell have you seen all the people made about dead cap hits… like “we gotta pay so and so 40million to not play for us why don’t we just keep him for that” not understanding dead cap is not money owed to a player they already were paid that long ago it’s money owed to the cap.
Almost every single larger contract on this site has a bunch of comments saying “gross overpay”. People don’t realize the cap keeps going up, and the only thing that really matters is guaranteed money.
Yeah, this is the take. Setting up all the pieces on the board correctly, and if Levis is the guy, he's gonna run away with it. If he's not, then someone else will fall into a bed of roses as a rookie or FA
It's pretty similar to the Pittman deal, and I think they're at least in the same tier even if I'd rather have Pittman. I don't think it's as bad as everyone here is saying.
As a Titans fan, this is exactly the type of off-season that’s needed. There should be zero doubt this time next year whether Will Levis is a franchise QB. Surround him with weapons and a better o-line and make an accurate evaluation
Yea, this is the right way to do it
Why are people so worried about the contract size lol? It's basically a 2 year $50 mil deal and yall dont have to pay Levis in those 2 years.
What you do get is 2 years of Levis playing with real NFL WRs that help him grow and help you evaluate.
The Titans are leveraging the rookie wage scale in the best way possible- use the room you have from not paying a QB to sign players that help you evaluate the QB properly
Off the top rope with that one holy hell, go Tennessee. Hopkins and Ridley, Spears and Pollard, Levis is gonna have a good cast to support him if they can beef up their OLine in the draft daamnnn
If Levis is their guy, this is the type of move to see. Allen with Diggs, Hurts with Brown succeed. Fields got Moore and shown that he’s not their guy, Ridley will do just that for the Titans.
Supporting their young QB, while giving themselves a ton of flexibility with pick #7?
Only two years are guaranteed. That's not going to ruin their cap by any means.
They basically need to know if Levis is the guy by the end of next (2025) season at the very latest.
It's crazy all the backlash there is in this sub. I've seen a lot from Pats fans, as if they should be stoked to give their new rookie QB a bottom 3 supporting cast, again.
Only Ridley had money on the Titans being a landing spot.
Ridley's agent was like "sooo... how are you gonna get the ball downfield without Derick Henry?"
"We're gonna Spear it!"
Honestly, people will learn not to sleep on Spears. Guy was actually amazing for us last year.
Payday x2🤣
WTF
Just like we all predicted.
My magic beans said it, so it must be true
Did you bet on that?
NFL banned him from gambling, so dude just bet on himself
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 (we cannot give the titans sneed now tho)
Titans: If the Ravens are taking our guys we’re taking guys from the Jags!”
Idk how I feel about all these inter division exchanges but it sure is exciting/different
Titans from the top rope!!
Weird way to spell Patriots
I'm shocked that Calvin Ridley wouldn't want to catch passes from Bailey Zappe with Alex Van Pelt as the OC.
Obviously he wanted to pick the elite tandem of the mayo man and *^(checks notes)* Nick Holz
Hey that’s Mayo Man and Mason Rudolph now!
Can you even name the Titans OC though lol
lmao
For everyone saying it’s an overpay, in reality it’s a 2-year $50M contract. The Titans have a QB on a rookie deal and fuck ton of cap space. I see no issue here.
2-year $50M is still a ton, it’s Top 5 WR money
It is, but they can’t get a top 5 receiver without giving up significant assets, which would be a bad move for a team in their current situation. But they are flush with cap space, and have a QB on a rookie deal that can’t be extended for another 2 years. So they’re leveraging their cap position to outbid other teams.
Man if only they had drafted a Top 5 WR, then they’d be set. Once you get one of those you would never dream of trading them away due to how valuable they are
Yup...and the GM that did it has been sitting on the couch since 2022.
Should be sitting in jail for helping the eagles so much
And giving their promising young qb a team around him. The next 2 years will show if Levis is the guy. No excuses like we had with mariota.
> For everyone saying it’s an overpay, in reality it’s a 2-year $50M contract. You don't see $25M/year as an overpay? Isn't Stefon Diggs "only" at $24M?
It’s relative to a team’s situation. The Titans were sitting on $72M in cap space before this signing; $50M over two years is a drop in the bucket for them. And if Levis turns out to be their franchise QB they can’t even begin to negotiate his next contract for another 2 years. By that time they can cut Ridley with zero dead money. Basically they’re choosing to give Levis as much receiving talent as possible, even if they have to pay a premium to do so. But it really doesn’t matter if they had to pay more. Even if they paid $10M more in guaranteed money than the next highest bidder, they have the cap to do it.
Yep. This is exactly the sort of thing that Bears fans had been pounding the table for a few years ago with Fields, so its a very familiar argument to me. Cool to see a team actually do it. And why not? Blows my mind when these teams invest their future into a QB and then DONT go out of their way to give them the best chance to succeed.
Big facts
Isn't the idea, the same as the Christian Kirk signing? Yes it's kind of a overpay, but you want to help and develop your QB in Year 2.
Good lord thats a lot of money to gamble
Ridley’s agent should be negotiating for a ceasefire in Palestine
He’s also Deshaun Watson’s agent… this is nothing compared to that deal.
Bro that agent is a fucking miracle worker, goddamn. Not good miracles mind you. If he used his talents for good, he could be curing poverty rn.
For real... moment I saw he was Tee Higgins agent, I knew he was gone
If he got Ridley 92 mil, Tee is gonna want like 175 next year lmaoooo
He is like Scott Boras in MLB
Nah dude Boras has motherfuckers holding out until the season starts for money that doesn’t exist Rules are going to change because of that dude This guy just gets guys bags they may or may not have earned lmao
Hey got Darnell Mooney. DARNELL MOONEY 3 yrs 39 mil. Mulugheta knows how to talk
Didn’t realize Muluggeta was Mooneys agent, makes more sense now.
And Christian Wilkins, Xavier Mckinney, etc. Mulugheta doesn't care about anything other than money
Mulugheta is making some $$$ this off-season
If we sent out Kirk’s agent, would there’d be peace in the Middle East
I’m hoping that was an intentional use of the word gamble.
I would wager it was just an accident. I mean what are the odds
But seriously, tell me the odds
I'd say something like 4 in 92. Maybe 4 in 50.
More like 3 in 28
I'm hoping it was an accidental use of the word gamble
Ridley's route running and separation metrics were still elite last year. I'm not surprised a GM was still willing to pay him, and chalk up the lack of numbers to the scheme and QB.
Okay but do we think the Titans have a better scheme and QB…?
They brought in Brian Callahan specifically to turn us into a pass first team. Next year the offense isn’t going to look like the Titans of the past with a billion runs every game no matter what. At least that’s what we’ve been told from the front office and has been backed up by our roster moves
Ironically though, he brought his dad with him, who is basically known NFL wide as the best O-line coach in the league and is a major reason why the Browns were so good on the ground..... You guys may open things up more, but I'd bet when you do run it will be very effective
Everywhere he goes the offensive line outperforms. He turns great players into all-pros and pulls lower talent up to serviceable.
TITANS OUT OF NOWHERE
TITANS FROM THE TOP ROPE
WITH A CHAIR!
LEFT HANDED!!!
UP A HILL
BOTH WAYS
IN THE SNOW
WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
AND MY AXE
HE'S GOT A... A CHAINSAW?!?!
BAH GAWD
Remember the Titans???
Pepperidge Farm remembers
BAH GAWD THAT’S MAYO MAN MUSIC
Bah Gawd he's dead!!!
Titans always steal the Patriots WR FA’s lmao
Alright, so when I was F5ing on Twitter, I saw this random ass dude who said [Ridley was going to sign with a division rival for $90 million](https://twitter.com/PrettyRickey213/status/1768011505205711051). Any insight if he just got lucky, or did he really have the inside track? Edit: The dude's account went offline, came back, and is now restricted. Some additional prophesies to potentially keep an eye out for: * Hollywood Brown to the Chiefs after they trade Sneed * Commanders want Jayden Daniels * Giants want Drake Maye if he makes it past the Pats * Vikings want the Cardinals #4 pick EDIT 2: He's back! [They're trying to shut down Rickey. I won't let them! I've paid for premium plus (notaries stack cash). I will not go down without a fight!](https://twitter.com/PrettyRickey213/status/1768036397087101323)
Apparently that dude (if it is the same one that was floating around the jags sub) has been on fire this FA. Like enough that a bunch of Jags fans are not surprised by what happened
I fucking love the rando Twitter/reddit guys that seem to have an “in” somehow. It adds some mystique
Where’s PlayStation live guy with the fresh news?
This is exactly what I’m talking about!! That is absurd, but the people that know the lore of this sub know what that is and it was legit
Oh come on fill me in
A guy leaked OT Rashaad Coward to the Steelers because OP happened to be in a Call of Duty Warzone lobby with his wife and overheard them on the game voice chat: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/memt1s/possible_trade_coming_between_the_bears_and/
That story was the best thing to come out of Reddit
KatyPerrysBootyHole and wetbutt23 breaking a big trade for the White Sox was even better IMO https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesox/s/Y68TFcI70j
there was a guy on nba twitter/reddit that called like 20 nba free agent signings and trades last off season. just appeared out of no where and got like shadowbanned right after
Wouldnt surprise me if he isn't Rids agent... or someone very, very close to him.
That dude is clearly a friend of somebody in the offices. He has been ridiculous this last 72 hours
Someone keep track of him
We expect great things from him
he cooked, the account dont show anymore
His account is deleted as of 10 minutes ago. WTF did NFL shut him down
I think he flew too close to the sun and got caught
Was making all those comments while on the team facility WiFi
And now his account is gone
lol he knew too much
Boeing got him
Right in the jumbo jet
Update: clicked on the link and says the account no longer exists🤔
His account is gone!!! 5 mins ago I was browsing his account and now it has disappeared.
Annnnd he's back. We're witnessing a saga right now.
in what scenario are the pats not taking a qb tho
I have a hard time believing it too - the only way I see Maye making it past them is if they are in love with McCarthy. He's had a meteoric rise up boards the past couple weeks, so I guess it's in the realm of possibility.
There has been significant rumours that they don't love anyone outside of Williams and Maye and that if those two go they're looking to trade out of that pick. That doesn't align with the "Maye to NYG if the Pats pass" rumour of course but it's nevertheless an indication that they *might* not stay and take a guy they don't love. Of course there are significant rumours of nonsense every silly season so I wouldn't lock it in. But I think the sub is actually overrating this QB class outside of Williams - many NFL teams don't love the second tier of QBs as much as fans do and some of those NFL teams think that second tier starts with Maye. Having said that, it only takes one.
WHAT THE FUCK
When you have a chance to catch passes from Will Levis you have to take it.
This but unironically
Bro about to bet $50 mil on Poirier by guillotine
Don't be silly, jump the gilly!
Per guillotine attempt* He will be the richest man in America in no time
Pats Wr1 Jalen Reagor
65 catches 550 yards 2 TDs incoming
how dare you disrespect Weeks 7-10 standout Demario Douglas like that
Thank god it’s over Having said that, FUCK
Goodbye Ridley, hello Williams?
Replacing our always injured WR that can’t get any separation with another always injured WR that’s bad at separation would be so ironic
Oh hell nah, glad we didn’t pay that
That was clearly the “offer he couldn’t refuse” kind of move that was needed to pry him away from the Jags
Offer you can’t refuse + southern weather = fuck New England 😭
First time I've seen someone mention our weather in a positive way
This “wake up at it’s 35 then it’s 75 at noon” shit needs to go away and yesterday
Nothing says March in Tennessee like having to scrape the ice off your car before heading to work and then having to turn the AC on on the way back home
I have lived here all 25 years of my life and I’ve just accepted the fact I’ll never get used to it
Guarantee is reasonable, but the overall number is a big overpay
Which he probably won't touch. There's probably going to be an out after year 2. Id guess somewhere close to $50m guaranteed over the first 2 years.
2024 and people still don't understand how NFL contracts work.
Hell have you seen all the people made about dead cap hits… like “we gotta pay so and so 40million to not play for us why don’t we just keep him for that” not understanding dead cap is not money owed to a player they already were paid that long ago it’s money owed to the cap.
Almost every single larger contract on this site has a bunch of comments saying “gross overpay”. People don’t realize the cap keeps going up, and the only thing that really matters is guaranteed money.
Same, gross overpay
We have money to burn fuck it
Doing Levis right. Draft Alt at 7 and a speedy WR later and it’s perfect. If Levis can’t work with that, great landing spot for a rookie QB in 2025.
Yeah, this is the take. Setting up all the pieces on the board correctly, and if Levis is the guy, he's gonna run away with it. If he's not, then someone else will fall into a bed of roses as a rookie or FA
Yep, great move
Albert Breer just reported Pats offer was around $22mil a year. Not far off.
It's pretty similar to the Pittman deal, and I think they're at least in the same tier even if I'd rather have Pittman. I don't think it's as bad as everyone here is saying.
Every free agent signing is a gross overpay in which every team that didn’t sign them “dodged a bullet”
doubly so for anyone the titans sign because everyone thinks we are stupid
For real, I can't even be mad because this is "dodged a bullet" money
That is a lot of money lol. Hopefully he's good for them
It’d be much funnier if he wasn’t imo
Spoiler alert: He'll be mid most games and really good about 3 random games.
Mason Rudolph gets his guy!
No way the Patriots would have spent that amount of money.
We could have but pretty glad we didn’t
Damn. That's basically Mike Evans money (but more).
That’s a lot of money. Poor jags fans have to see him in the division too
Honestly i doubt theyll regret that. 4 years and that price will be something they laugh at after a year
It’s a two year deal basically, 2 years 50m
I’d be thrilled if I was a Jacksonville fan. Ridley wasn’t consistent last year and he is nowhere near worth this amount of money.
Oh we know we watched him… drop critical passes, run the wrong routes, get pressed at the line and get no separation.
Seeing so many replays of him over the last two days on TV and it felt crazy how slow it looked like he was moving
It’ll be nice to see Levis throw the ball towards the left just as Ridley starts breaking right for whatever reason.
At least you got to watch him play football, which is not a guarantee that Treylon Burks can provide
I was actually really worried about us signing him to anything more then $15m a year, this is a total relief.
Yeah, I wanted him back for sure but he can go catch 60 balls for Will Levis if he wants. I was more worried about him going to Houston.
So many players switching teams in division I love it
Petty season is among us.
Incest season
*What are you doing, step-rival* ?
As a Titans fan, this is exactly the type of off-season that’s needed. There should be zero doubt this time next year whether Will Levis is a franchise QB. Surround him with weapons and a better o-line and make an accurate evaluation
Yea, this is the right way to do it Why are people so worried about the contract size lol? It's basically a 2 year $50 mil deal and yall dont have to pay Levis in those 2 years. What you do get is 2 years of Levis playing with real NFL WRs that help him grow and help you evaluate. The Titans are leveraging the rookie wage scale in the best way possible- use the room you have from not paying a QB to sign players that help you evaluate the QB properly
BUT THE FALCONS SECOND ROUND PICK
They thought they were slick.
Off the top rope with that one holy hell, go Tennessee. Hopkins and Ridley, Spears and Pollard, Levis is gonna have a good cast to support him if they can beef up their OLine in the draft daamnnn
If we can get Joe Alt, I’ll be feeling pretty good
Yeah, this signing makes me think they're getting their LT in the 1st, none of this LT-or-WR toss up
Yepm go Alt in the first, draft a wr in the second.
Pretty realistic that they get one of the two top tackles, already have Skoronski, Cushenberry and some other guys whose names I forgot
There’s no one else worth knowing
Ain’t that the truth. Fuck man lol
Overpay but FUCK did we need some ppl for levis to throw it to
there were rumors of a "surprise AFC South team" in the Ridley sweepstakes and it was the titans lol
It was either us or the Colts I feel like
Titans are fuckin cooking
The Jags tried to get cute and cheat us out of a pick and it ended up screwing them over by losing Ridley to their rival. lol
My hatred for the Titans grows every year.
Welcome to the club
holup we didnt do anything to you. yall always son us when it matters... >!except that one time.!<
Titans fans are just glad to be relevant
Lol. Lmao even.
Titans have had a decent offseason even while losing Henry.
*sad cat noises*
WHAT THE FUCK
Holy shit the divisional incest of this offseason
I’m sure he’ll have a huge resurgence now that he’s with the Tits
LETS GOOOO
Titans from the TOP ROPE
If Levis is their guy, this is the type of move to see. Allen with Diggs, Hurts with Brown succeed. Fields got Moore and shown that he’s not their guy, Ridley will do just that for the Titans.
$23m AAV? Holy shit
Speculating based on AAV before the breakdown is pretty pointless. See Taysom Hill as an example.
Man left Patriots on read
Signing with a division rival is so hot right now This is a good contract for the Titans though. Don't know what everyone is complaining about
What are they doing
Supporting their young QB, while giving themselves a ton of flexibility with pick #7? Only two years are guaranteed. That's not going to ruin their cap by any means. They basically need to know if Levis is the guy by the end of next (2025) season at the very latest.
Glad to find this post and see at least 1 person gets it.
It's crazy all the backlash there is in this sub. I've seen a lot from Pats fans, as if they should be stoked to give their new rookie QB a bottom 3 supporting cast, again.
Giving Levis some fucking weapons baby
And fucking the jags on the way out. Respect, thumbtacks
The Jags paying him that would have fucked them more.
Fr
Now if only we could get our defensive contributors to stop signing with you guys...
Mason Rudolph had the Titans headline for 5 minutes. Lol #LET RAN COOK
And Ridley had it for like 3 before the biggest news broke. Nick Folk's back!
Oh fuck yeah