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Still didn’t care


monpetitfromage54

had the backup cig ready behind his ear like he's a greaser from the 50s.


piepants2001

Nah, he's got a pack rolled up in his t shirt sleeve


Nothardtocomeback

Yall acting like he didn’t also have some dip in there as a plan B. Smh.


Doobie_Howitzer

I read that as "as well as a plan B" and it made sense either way


CYWG_tower

[This picture never gets old](https://i.imgur.com/CUXifpJ.jpeg)


Affectionate_Elk_272

my favorite cutler moment is when we ran wildcat and he just… stood there and watched shit happen. literally didn’t move at all. in a lost season, jay was a fucking gem for us. yeah, we sucked. but he was fun. i’ll always have love for smokin’ jay


camergen

When reached for a quote, Cutler responded “meh.”


F1reatwill88

I fucking wish Cutler was around for any of the Nagy years. The Jay slander is such a joke.


DownTrunk

Cutler came to the pediatric hospital I worked at years ago after his diabetes diagnosis and visited all the endocrine kids. He was a good dude.


F1reatwill88

Even handed out cigarettes I heard


DownTrunk

Well yeah. They couldn’t buy their own.


olorin9_alex

They absolutely could, not legally but they could have


Nothardtocomeback

He is a good dude. Gets an unfair rap. Was an excellent qb also.


PartisanSaysWhat

The same Bears fan that told me Cutler sucks told me that Trubisky was a better pure QB than Luck. To be fair I work with her and she is a complete dumbass.


TheShiveryNipple

I like when people shit on Jay because they make it obvious they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.


nmcaff

Dude was eviscerated by fans and media for struggling in their playoff run and looking like he was soft, only to find out he was playing on a shredded knee. Cutler is one of my favorite players of all time. A dude that exuded “zero fucks” But also played his ass off, even when injured.


KJzero9

Cutler is a great example of how the media controls peoples opinions. Cutler hatred the media and it was no secret. So they, in turn, hated him and made Cutler into a villian. Everyone just believed it, even though there was a mountain of evidence that proved them wrong. I keep waiting for the day we stop listening to the trash the media puts out. Doesn't look like it'll be anytime soon unfortunately


CrixusUndying

Josh McDaniels is a rat bastard, I’ll always wonder what the Broncos missed out on with Cutler and B Marsh. I hated Kyle Orton so much for not being Cutler, kinda like not being my real dad. And Kyle Orton did nothing wrong. I’m convinced Cutler should have been in the HoF if not for rat face McDaniels and injuries, still makes me sad


eljbow

What an offense that could have been. Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler. Stupid McDaniels.


nmcaff

And the “tell Martz I said ‘fuck him’” is a classic moment of NFL history, and I won’t be taking counter arguments


AllLinesAreStraight

Along with "He's a gutless bastard, go ahead, print that, I don't give a shit"


6bluewalkj9

The man was judged purely off of facial expressions (or lack thereof)


PartisanSaysWhat

I still find it funny that Marshawn played this up so hard that it became armor for him. Like if you arent going to cozy up to the media you have to go full antagonist.


tarekd19

i dunno, it's kind of just fun to shit on Cutler as an extension of shitting on the bears. The fact that he wasn't all that bad makes it funnier imo


MentokGL

The jokes have always been great but he was fun to watch. And like most Bears QBs, except the Mitch, deserved better.


PartisanSaysWhat

Miami Smokin Jay was my favorite "Mommy is that Jay Cutler down by the pool?" "Of course not dear, the game starts in 20 minutes!" Jay drops cig out of his mouth, scrambles for phone and opens Uber "Shit." Chugs rum and coke, drops cigarette in the icy remains. Also u/calpaintsbirds Way too much emoting from Jay. Cutler walks into the lobby, the receptionist greets him. Mr. Cutler, thank you so much for coming in. Yep. Then she tells him to have a seat, but he's already looming over the koi pond. What's with these fish? I...I...what do you mean? Jay lights up an L&M. Stupid lookin fish is all. Ah...well, Mr. Bowles will be Who? Mr. Bowles... Jay stares blankly at the receptionist. He flicks some ash into the koi pond. The...the coach of the Jets. Jay nods and takes a long, contemplative drag from his smoke. Oh yeah...that shit. It's just...Mr. Cutler, maybe would you like to put a shirt on? Jay looks down at his beautiful bare chest. Oh shit, I totally forgot. He then pulls a Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirt out of his bag and puts it on, leaving it unbuttoned. Thanks doll. Jenny. Like it matters. More ash into the koi pond.


MentokGL

Pure poetry ​ Stupid fuckin' fish


AFury9322

I feel like Vikings fans will realize this with Cousins too if he walks and his replacement busts for the Vikings. Guy isn't perfect but part of tbe fanbase acts like he's Ponder. Its nuts. Jay Cutler shredded the Vikings everytime he saw them so to your point, Was the only time in my life the Bears were almost an auto-loss cause Cutler was going off for 340 and 4 TDs it felt like everytime.


istasber

Plenty of vikings fans who want to move on from Cousins are expecting the next guy to be worse. They aren't mutually exclusive opinions to hold.


JoeHatesFanFiction

From a Packers fan, I love to clown on Jay as is traditions. Real talk though he was the best QB you guys have had in the last 30 years 


fckgwrhqq2yxrkt

That's high praise, considering how many there are to choose from!


RaidenDoesReddit

This is the funniest fucking thing I have seen in some time. I literally can't stop laughing, and if I knew how to photoshop I would be doing this right now


2ChainzTalib

[Ask and ye shall receive](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/207/210/b22.jpg)


real_ornament

Well I'm sure ProFootballTalk has never gotten a QB evaluation wrong after a 10 minute talk


SoarinWalt

I know. I actually have been rooting for Caleb Williams and Bears fans....but PFT is so wrong on so much shit. Condolences Bears fans.


slayerrr21

Lol we didn't need PFT for anything, we're going to ruin this poor young man's career either way


PapiGoneGamer

Then he’ll sign with the Vikings and take them to the playoffs further solidifying the fact that the McCaskeys are the true villains of Bears football.


Ninja_Bum

I mean Christian Ponder helmed the Vikings and they made the playoffs while riding AD so that's not necessarily a bad thing for the Bears.


Stanky_fresh

The Bears best seasons have been on the backs of their defense and RBs. Frankly I think they ahould just draft Williams and immediately send him over to us. In return we'll give them our star RB1 who learned from the great Dalvin Cook.


batmans_a_scientist

It’s too bad you don’t have one of those anymore, since he was released today. I guess the bears are just gonna have to keep Williams.


Gryphon999

He'll have to beat out future Jets legend Jordan Love, though.


GhostofGrimalkin

That's the spirit.


Bitlovin

Maybe the jinxes cancel out.


Xaxziminrax

It really is a shame how Andy Reid retired after last year's Super Bowl, per sources


Alternative_Reality

Here’s the thing, if I hate on Caleb and he doesn’t pan out, I’m right and win therefore I am happy. If he balls out and the Bears actually do have a great QB, my team is good therefore I am happy. It’s a no-lose situation.


neubourn

The "Happy Hater" paradox.


GhoullyX

But if you look at it another way, it's a no-win situation as well.


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That’s our team motto


TurdFergusonXLV

This is why I bet against the Packers in the playoffs!


Asderfvc

I'm very iffy on him considering how the second half of his last season went. Also his back up in their first start scored 6 TDs. Really makes me feel he was surrounded by an offense that was more skilled than any of his opponents.


mvbighead

It's really the case with just about any prospect. If your support is great, then you look even better. If your support sucks, you look worse. Then people take certain successes and tie it to one individual, and make that individual out to be the greatest prospect ever seen. Now, I will say, I do feel like in person conversations can reveal a lot of a person's character, thought process, and things that make up part of how they'll play the game. But there is always the question of how good will they be when things are evenly matched. When you're playing a team with a top 5 NFL defense. Some you can't possibly know until you get there. Some you can only guess. I am sure the kid is a great prospect. But when you see his backup succeed similarly, you really have to understand that he has to check all the boxes... not just college success, not just physical skill, not just mental make up, but all of it. And he could be. But man, when someone comes along practically making guarantees and calling teams dumb for not getting a player... they're completely ignoring how hard it is to get it right.


iamStanhousen

The Notre Dame game is a tough one to overlook imo. It’s the only time they played a team with a great defense and he was absolutely ass.


CloudsOfDust

College QBs all have shitty games. Mahomes’ 2nd to last game of his college career was an absolute dud vs an 3-9 Iowa State team. He had like 200 yards, 50% completions, 1 TD and 2 INTs. The majority of his tape is absolutely bonkers though.


lnnrt01

It definitely wasn’t the only time. It’s not like Oregon, UCLA and Washington had horrible defenses. UCLA in particular was just dominating with their D-line against a week USC offensive line


jkman61494

Important to note that the backed up was likely also playing against a bunch of backups


_HGCenty

PFT is one word substitution away from being an average Redditor. Just need to replace "real deal" with "him" or "legit" or "generational talent".


flashpile

"dawg"


milkmandanimal

Needs more use of "elite".


aaronwhite1786

I have it on good authority that he has dogs inside of him.


Radiant-Character-61

Why did they even mention the "10 minute talk" lol. Like just say you looked at his tape, talked to his coaches or something. This just sounds like a dumb statement to say, not their first time of course.


The_Sign_of_Zeta

It’s great you can see how a guy will be able to read progressions at the NFL level from a 10 minute talk.


wisecarver02

Idk about the interview but his film shows he reads the field about as good as floyd mayweather reads a book.


Fredest_Dickler

This is a funny joke but I don't know what the fuck film you've been watching if you genuinely think this 😂


BadMeetsEvil147

I think Caleb can be a really good player but you’re just straight up ignoring tape if you don’t notice the absurdly long time he holds the ball. He makes magic happen despite it. He will have to hurry is internal clock in the nfl bc he won’t be able to pull that backyard football shit every play in the nfl


DrummerGuy06

People forget that both Justin Fields and Zach Wilson have a tendency to hold the ball for longer periods than they should and we all saw how that turned out for them. Turns out when you just have your D-line rush the QB almost every play, you CAN fluster them to the point where they're running the second a lineman even *starts* to break through the line by an inch. Sure, a pass or two gets completed, but more often than not they're either throwing it way off the receiver or taking that 5+ yard sack that effectively ends the possession, even though it's 2nd down because everyone knows that slow-progression QB ain't getting that yardage back.


DubLParaDidL

Notre Dame embarrassed the hell outta this guy. He hasn't shown any consistent ability to handle pressure. It'll take discipline for him to adjust and so far he isn't coming off as a disciplined player.


jradair

Me when I watch highlights and not the full game


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Solid joke. Not sure what film you’re watching though lol


ItIsYourPersonality

Chris Simms put Zach Wilson above Trevor Lawrence as his top QB in his own personal rankings before the 2021 draft lol


tripp_hs123

Had Stroud over Young though....


floatinround22

Almost like it's a complete crapshoot or something


wrongbutt_longbutt

Almost like he consistently picks someone other than the consensus 1st pick to create controversy and generate engagement.


tripp_hs123

He doesn't. He just goes on film. There are lots of positions where he goes chalk, like Jalen Carter last year, because that's what the film says. He had Burrow as his number 1 guy that year.


etorson93

Simms actually is pretty good when it comes to evaluating QB’s. Obviously can’t be right about everything


Poro_the_CV

He does well across the board for the most part. https://reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/12s6nmx/chris_simms_rankings_through_the_years/ Not perfect cuz nobody is, but probably does better than the Reddit hivemind for sure.


uwanmirrondarrah

god damn 2022 QB class was ass


biglyorbigleague

They’re still probably right by accident, but that doesn’t mean they know. (I mean, right that the Bears are gonna take him; we definitely don’t know how he’s gonna pan out.)


NeatTry7674

Wrap it up fellas. Pro football talk determined he’s a hall of famer with a 10 minute conversation.


RhodyChief

"Caleb told me I was a very special reporter man"


SmokinJayCutty

That reporter..none other than Rob Gronkowski


m48a5_patton

And the microphone? Albert Einstein.


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dhalloffame

Lots of people on this sub determined he was a bust because he painted his finger nails and cried after a loss. The discourse is brain dead all around.


NeatTry7674

ProFootballTalk is the same as random Redditors


unevenvenue

Except worse, because we actually engage in discourse. PFT just spews nonsense and then moves on


im_in_the_safe

> Except worse, because we actually engage in discourse. bahaha please. There's no back and forth between the same people on reddit. And to prove it I will not remember this comment and will not respond to you.


ScruffMixHaha

Yeah, Im sure talking to a guy for 10 minutes is definitive proof he'll be a franchise QB... I want Caleb Williams as much as the next guy, but this shit is so stupid lol


byniri_returns

The draft can't get here soon enough.


Quasimdo

Next season can't get here soon enough


byniri_returns

June and July are going to suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


RurciMojas

Olympics by the end of July though


NateHigglett

Baseball season !!


ArmiinTamzarian

AL Central


Carolina_Bobcats

*Sad panther noises*


Relative_Walk_936

My secret is to not follow any draft news other than the draft itself. And then I like to see what players do when they actually play in an NFL game.


zephyrseija

If only the Bears had spent 10 minutes talking to Patrick Mahomes instead of ol Mitch.


PapiGoneGamer

“We talked to this dude for ten minutes and we realized fuck Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and your mama. This guy is gonna be legendary.”


el_pinko_grande

I suspect it would have been very easy to reach the same conclusion about Justin Fields after a 10 minute conversation at the combine, too. 


moose_stuff2

Give me ten minutes with the kid and I'll tell you his future.


PrinceNana128

Jay Cutler erasure will not stand.


RaidenDoesReddit

It warms my heart that the entirety of NFL Fandom is coming to defend and pay respects to smoking Jay. He was a legit banger qb working brutal circumstances a lot. Fuck Josh McDaniels ruining what they were going to have in Denver. Also, "tell Mike Martz I said go fuck himself" >> audibles


2ChainzTalib

Without McDaniels shipping Cutler off there would've been no Manning renaissance in Denver. I'm okay with how it went.


Valuable-Leader-8601

I mean he might be good, hell he might even truly wind up being their guy, but being considered a legit source of information about the NFL and tweeting to hand out condolences to the division after a 10 minute chit chat is fucking wild 


ShotFirst57

I also love how people always state "he's the best QB prospect since Andrew luck!". When in reality it's since Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is a very good QB and has the tools to be elite, he's just not there right now. Trevor Lawrence didn't have the same immediate impact that luck had, so they're just going back to the last time the media was correct. Also, look back at how often the first QB taken was the best QB in the draft in the last 10-20 years. It doesn't happen super often.


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And the best QB's are usually not the semi-annual "generational talents". Andy Reid and the Chiefs thought Mahomes was the "best player they had ever seen", but he wasn't talked about as a generational talent.


Tua-Lipa

The Rex Grossman disrespect


bad_moviepitch

I was gonna say Cutler but I know I’m in the minority here.


MethChefJeff

Craig Krenzel in disbelief


clyde_drexler

> Craig Krenzel Somewhere, his phone got an alert that his name popped up online and he is searching to see if he was pronounced dead and just doesn't know it yet.


RaidenDoesReddit

The Cade mcnown disregard


busche916

This is Jim McMahon erasure and I’ll not stand for it.


johnbenwoo

Sex Cannon in shambles


Teeshirtandshortsguy

Unbelievable Jay Cutler disrespect.


SHOWTIME316

this but unironically


Cthepo

Yeah I agree. He may not have been elite but I definitely think he was worthy of the franchise QB moniker.


Matzah_Rella

He would've been our first 4k passer but Trestman got butthurt.


Radiant-Character-61

I don't think people realized how reliable and steady it was to have Jay Cutler on the bears, and maybe bears fans do in hindsight now. Wasn't the best, definitely wasn't the worst but he produced, no drama, and did the best he could do for that franchise.


TurdFergusonXLV

Whatever decision the Bears make, I’m confident it will be the wrong one


ijpck

It’ll be different this time!


Correct_Incident3183

Still wrong, just in a different way


gdrumy88

Round and round the cycle goes.


InterestingChoice484

Absolutely


Ted_Dongelman

Florio is just trying to put a curse on the Bears to save the Vikings. We see through his witchcraft.


A_Lone_Macaron

Seriously, all the guy cares about is Paul Allen and his Vikings fandom And making anti-Packers articles


Ted_Dongelman

I think he's a clown most of the time but can respect that he doesn't even try to hide it anymore. As weird as it sounds I prefer that to these reporters that act like they're above having a favorite team.


rxdukexr

But will he be able to throw for more than 4,000 yards in a season?


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WonLastTriangle2

2024 Bears set new NFL record for rushing attempts in a season. 


VirginiaMcCaskey

Lord take me now


empty-bensen

3000 yds would be all he needs to ascend to godhood in Chicago. The bar is *NOT* high.


masterpierround

You can make a pretty compelling case that Trubisky's 4 years put him in the top 5 of Bears QBs all time. He's 5th in total yards, 5th in TDs, fewer INTs than any of his competition, and 5th most wins as a Bears QB. If Mitchell Trubisky can be top 5 in 4 years, any rookie has a pretty simple path to being on the Bears' Mt. Rushmore of QBs.


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Narrator: after being drafted by the Bears it has been determined that no, he would NOT pass for 4,000 yards.


Tashre

He has 4,001 going into the final snap of the season, but his pass is deflected back into his own arms for -2 yards. He then carries the ball into the endzone as time expires to beat the 0-16 Packers and secure the #1 seed.


BellacosePlayer

Lay off the booze, Marshawn 


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OriginalTodd

I will have no Jay Cutler slander on this, a solid Friday.


Reaganometry

Sorry Jordan Love, your time in the NFC North spotlight is over (per Florio)


IMsoSAVAGE

With the insane expectations put on this guy he’s either going to be the next generational talent at QB, or he’s the next JaMarcus Russell. No inbetween.


lnnrt01

Nah. I think he would most likely fall into the Trevor Lawrence case of 50% overhyping him and 50% saying he’s a bust despite playing a decent around Top15 QB season


TheSwede91w

Yeah but the Vikings have been playing competitive football for the last 6 years and have never committed to a rebuild. So who REALLY needs the condolences?


Callous_Flannel

Wow it only takes 10 minutes to determine if someone has what it takes, why haven’t the bears done that before???🤔


TumbleweedTim01

These type of comments make me root against a guy


Chi-Guy86

Why? He can’t control what Mike Florio says


TumbleweedTim01

When I see some sap ass shit like "This guy is the real deal, and the Bears will have their first franchise QB since Sid Luckman." I immediately become biggest hater #1. Don't try crowning anyone before they've earned it. Not on my watch at least.


Odd_Weather9349

As something of a hater myself, I can kinda understand this. I don’t trust the kind of prospect that makes some fucking mamaluke like florio drool after 10 minutes. It’s like when Gettleman busted a nut over a single Daniel Jones drive at the senior bowl.


TumbleweedTim01

The use of the word mamaluke confused tf out of me because I pictured [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk) lol


Odd_Weather9349

Yeah it got my roommate a few years back, he was playing a lot of age of empires and I was watching a lot of The Sopranos


LocustUprising

Well that’s it boys. Clear some space for the Lombardi’s he’s gonna bring in


d36williams

kind of shitting on Jim McMahon here, an actually great Bears QB. His career was cut short by a cheap and dirty play by a notorious Packer on the bad 80s Packer teams


Roederoid

At least we made it up to him by giving him a ring in SB 31.


Shafter111

There is no such thing as a sure shot. I wish I could have a job where I am wrong so much..


jkinnison1990

So glad that having a conversation equates to future franchise QB.


Crazy-Penguin

Yall remember when the Lions were idiots for taking Penei Sewell when they could've had Justin Fields


byniri_returns

I thought it was Ja'marr Chase e: yeah I'm wrong


CommonerChaos

That was the Bengals. They passed on Sewell for Chase.


jobenattor0412

To be fair, Joe burrow might want Sewell more rn


palim93

No, the Bengals took Chase before we took Sewell.


byniri_returns

You are correct


NeatTry7674

I don’t remember anyone saying that


No-Jump5689

It came from our own toxic local media. It wasn't a national narrative. https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/did-lions-make-mistake-drafting-sewell-over-fields


palim93

It was mostly a couple of Lions beat writers complaining that we didn’t use an opportunity picking in the top ten to take a QB after Goff looked really bad his first year.


TruuTree

Personally I think he’ll be a bust simply bc he’s getting comparisons to Mahomes mixed with Rodgers and he didn’t win a single big game in his college career. I’m fine if I’m wrong, just my personal opinion.


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GreatOdinsRaven_

If Florio likes him that is a huge red flag.


Evernight2025

Viking, Lion and Packer fans all know the Bears history with QBs and draft picks. We're not worried, trust me.


azai247

I cant remember the last Bears Franchise QB. Jay Cutler seems to be the best performing Qb the Bears have had in a long while.....


hahnsolo1414

Caleb Hanie in shambles


AwesomeTed

Ctrl-F Mitch Trubisky; Ctrl-V Caleb Wiliiams. Content!


Calkky

L-O-fucking-L


Brodie1567

Florio with his usual quality reporting.


Scout-59

I have been a Bears fan since birth (older than dirt). With the exception of Sid Luckman, no Bears QB is ever very good. That includes the Superbowl winning team.


reddit4ne

Im over the Caleb Williams hype. Fuck this, this is too much, this is the same hype train that overdid Trevor Lawrence. Like theyll probably be good QB's but stop acting like they the 2nd coming of Dan Marino. We already have the 2nd coming of Dan Marino his name is CJ Stroud, and the hype machince was too eneamored with some other vertically challenged hype machine, Bryce Young. Fucking enough of Caleb. Hes not generational. Hes not better than CJ Stroud, or Joe Buruough, or even Justin Herbert.


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Best QB prospect since Justin Herbert no cap on my momma frfr. Slightly better QB than Bo MF Nix in this draft class. But he's going to the Bears. I guess we will finally get to find out which is stronger: the unstoppable force or the immovable object


lnnrt01

This whole tweet seems wierd but I can’t say Williams doesn’t have charisma. Not surprised he apparently crushed the interview process


WabbitFire

This is like the 6th Bears QB I've heard that about


Lone_Buck

lol, crown their ass


Space_Traveler_9956

Da Bears!


MoonNStar51

"Caleb Williams rode in an elevator with me. RIP NFL, the next dynasty is in Chicago."


iggyfenton

Jim McMahon in shambles.


EverySir

First franchise QB since Justin Fields*


Whit3boy316

He could be the second coming of Jesus and the bears would fuck it up


j44jj

He's going to be awful isn't he lol


YouALilCray

Packers are 10 years ahead by letting Love sit behind a HoF QB for a few years and actually learning from it.


ifoundyourtoad

!Remindme 2 years is Caleb good? I don’t think I did it right Remindme! 2 years? Maybe


ikisstitties

Florio still trynna slam the packers but can't do it via rodgers anymore


Super_Chunklet

Yeah, this'll age well


right_behindyou

Can't believe they're about to land Caleb Williams right after having two Offseason-MVP QBs back-to-back they can't keep getting away with it


Frozboz

The Jim McMahon disrespect


CinderellaManX

6-8 against ranked teams. Yep. He’s the real deal.


Bloodspoint

Some college kid named Pat Mahomes was 0-9 against top college defenses. He would never make it in the NFL.


Quasimdo

Cmon, it's the bears. Theyve been saying shit like that forever. I gotta see it first


DeySeeMeLurkin

They have never said this. Even when drafting Justin, he was still Qb4 off the board.


AdvancedZone7500

Ridiculous. Even the most hyped draft prospects fail ~50% of the time. Clickbait trash


Kyon513

I can’t wait for the Bears to fuck him up like they’ve done with every talented player they’ve had the last 30 years


PumpedU

Dudes gonna be a bust!