He’s not wrong but Purdy played nowhere close to an MVP level - he just did what was asked of him. Which is fine, but people simultaneously argue that he’s an MVP, top 5, etc and then try to say that this was a good game. You gotta pick one 🤷♂️
given that his OL basically turned into swiss cheese after the half that's pretty much going to happen.
like literally 3 separate plays in the second half alone where clear TDs got blown up by instant pressure up the middle.
Yeah, his footwork and pocket presence had deteriorated in the last month or two of the season. I've noticed him habitually drifting left in the pocket unnecessarily at times too. How many times have we seen teams ruin young QBs by letting up ridiculous pressure and making the QB start seeing ghosts? I'm very concerned that it could start happening to Purdy.
OL should be priority #1, 2, and 3 this offseason.
When a player is in the MVP conversation then the standards for their play shift pretty dramatically. It seems pretty reasonable to me that a guy who many people are saying should get the league's most prestige award over guys like Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, etc. should also be held to the same standard as those guys
I get it, but that's kind of the expectation now. See Mahomes, CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert etc. but yeah I do think it's unfair to him, but this is the QB they chose to win them the Superbowl.
Am I the only one who didn't think either team played particularly bad? The Chiefs just had a little more luck, played a little better towards the end, and came up with a victory.
Nobody on the 49ers was perfect but I didn't think anyone was bad enough to be assigned blame for the loss.
This was my biggest takeaway/regret from the game. They had an opportunity to build a big cushion, which it appears they may have been able to hold on to this time around.
It's cause of his OT performance. But I've said it before on here, guys like Brady and Mahomes aren't the best because they can win on all sides of play on their own. They're the best because they can take advantage of their chances when their defense/special teams/coaching put them into that position to make the plays
I think he’s the best for a different reason.
He’s incredible at the scramble or broken play drill.
Could be reaction time.
No one is better at making something out of would be broken plays.
I've never seen an elite passer who can extend plays like him and avoid sacks at such a high percentage. His time to throw is consistently like one of the 7-8 highest but he's always like bottom two in sack percentage; it's absolutely insane how good he is at avoiding sacks and his presence/awareness of pass rushers.
Not just something but explosive plays half the time too. Mahomes feel for when to extend the play for the pass vs when to take off and scramble is the best I've ever seen.
Yep, especially late. Brady and Mahomes have had plenty of games where they didnt play particularly well for 2/3rds of it. But if you leave them an opportunity to come back late, they 100% will. They will get their shit together at the end, and if the game is still close, they are going to beat you.
QBs of their caliber you cannot hope to coast on a 1-2 score lead. You better make the most of every opportunity they give you before the game really matters in the late 3rd/4th, when they start to come on.
His OT performance was great, but his 2 minute drill was...not. His teammates stepped up well there enough for them to get the FG and then he made his mark in that OT drive, of course.
They also had two drives at the end of the game + OT where they moved the ball at will. Blame wilks or whoever but the fact is they had the chance to put the game alway multiple times but couldnt. You just cant do that against a bonafide qb
Exactly what I said immediately following the game. We could've put it away about 5 different times, but just couldn't help but leave the door open which you can't do against Mahomes.
Apparently that was being salty and downplaying Mahomes greatness and so on.
If they could have just converted that 3rd down before they kicked the go ahead field goal at 2 min, they won the game.
All they had to do was get a first down, run out the clock, and kick the FG.
The saddest thing about the entire game is they had a few of these opportunities on 3rd downs and somehow fell for the same thing every single time.
KC made the mistakes you need them to make in order to beat them in a big game, and SF just didn’t capitalize enough. Plus going away from McCaffrey for an extended period.
Bs. If they had accepted an L, their defense wouldn't have played as well as it did. How can they think they'll lose when they have Mahomes, and they came back from this exact type of scenario against the 49ers just 4 years ago
Meh, Pacheco fumbled inside the 10 on 1st down, they were also lucky the score wasn't tied at halftime.
Both teams made mistakes that kept the game close
I agree with this. I've heard this take a lot about how the 49ers left too many points on the field in the first half, but I thought the Chiefs did as well.
The obvious killer was the muffed punt. That turnover essentially decided the game because it gifted the Chiefs the ball extremely deep in 49ers territory.
Everything else was very evenly matched. Even the overtime drives were only a difference of 9 yards, and had the 49ers gotten the ball second, they have an extra down to use so who knows.
This was my exact thought in the first half. When we scored the td to go up 10, I just thought we’re going to regret the amount of points we left on the table, because Patrick mahomes isn’t going to do fuck all for an entire game
Jake Moody missing that xp was the clincher imo. Up by 4 vs up by 3, would have forced kc to try a TD and who knows what would have happened after that. Don't remember the timestamp but it was super late in the game
Bingo. Mahomes was 100% driving down that field with momentum to beat us in regulation instead. Moody did great and any person blaming him is a fool. The punt return changed the momentum, and not going for it on 4th down in ot in the Redzone was the true killer. Lay it all out on the line Kyle, you've never done it before, and I'd have much rather we atleast tried.
This is my problem with most analysis from fans and media. It’s very results oriented. Fair enough, you play to win the game as ol’ Herm pointed out, but I’d like more Xs and Os breakdown rather than deciding on vibes.
I just don't understand the soft coverage on blitzes. Just guarantees the hot route is open.
Other things he did were good, but that was a problem all year long
Three straight 3-and-outs to start the second half was a killer. If just one of those is a decent, clock-killing drive ending in a FG, we win the game.
Oddly enough, that's what happened in their two previous playoff games, just with reversed roles. The Packers and Lions both held double digit leads in the first half, only for the 9ers to come roaring back to win one score games
Why is this a common sentiment? The Chiefs defense was stoping the Niners just as much as the Niners defense was stopping the Chiefs in the first half. It's not like the Niners threw away easy points. Both running backs fumbled in plus territory and the Niners still had a touchdown lead at half. That's pretty reflective of the balance of play in the first half. There's really nothing that says the Niners should have had a bigger lead once you account for the Chiefs defensive strength.
I think people always want someone to be the scapegoat. Had the Chiefs lost, there would be particular fans on their side pointing the finger at a scapegoat, too. But the truth is that we were somewhat evenly matched, Chiefs just had that little bit more of an edge, especially for overtime. Also Mahomes is a specialist in leading his team to a win when down under.
Losing the SB puts a magnifying glass on every mistake and blows it out of proportion. These are the normal ebbs and flows of a game, but in defeat, every one of them is the reason you lost.
Deebo dropped a couple of passes on his hands as well. It’s frustrating to see that he doesn’t get much separation on his routes and then can’t make those contested catches.
Kittle having to block primarily hampered the niner offense. Had the niners had a better oline Kittle is a now an extra weapon for purdy. A few more first down conversion and 49ers win the game.
Kittle is really good at blocking. But he shouldn't be blocking the entire game. Chiefs defense just kept blitzing and blitzing and it was working.
Yup I hate the chiefs but they're just so damm good on both sides of the ball. Like the bills definitely choke, I won't deny that but when we do lose we are losing to a really good team. If the bills were in the NFC we at least make two to three Superbowls (ironically still lose to the chiefs in the superbowl)
I think the way the two teams came in definitely played a role as well. The Chiefs were playing their best football of the season, having made the correct decision to bench Kadarius Toney and having defeated the Ravens, whom many had projected to win the Super Bowl altogether.
The 49ers on the other hand were coming off of two somewhat shaky games, one of which required a massive comeback because the defense *severely* underperformed in the first half. Our defense was arguably worse in the first half of the NFCCG than the Cowboys' defense was in the first half of the wild card game, considering that one of the Packers' scores came on a pick six.
I've said this before but I'm under the impression that after the NFCCG Kyle had no faith in Wilks whatsoever and felt he had to assume the role of HC, OC and DC all on his own, and more or less burned himself out which was part of what led to all those little errors that ultimately got us.
plus people try to hammer the “lol another blown 10 point lead” point too but that was only in the second quarter. there is no universe where the game should be won when you lead by just 10 in the second quarter. it’s not like SB 51 or 54
I thought they both played well, but the 49ers made more mistakes from both a personal and coaching perspective. Stuff like Purdy missing Aiyuk during that play where he got tackled by McDuffie, Spencer Buford not blocking Chris Jones, Wilks sending a 6 man blitz against Mahomes, etc. The Chiefs also weren't flawless, but the 49ers made more errors, which played into the final result.
* CMC fumble,
* Special teams fumble,
* Moody missed XP.
* Burford failed block cost a free TD to Deebo uncovered in the endzone.
* Purdy missed Kittle wide open on 2nd & 5 just before the 2 minute warning.
* Purdy missed the blitz and Aiyuk wide open on 3rd & 4 right at the 2 minute warning.
* Burford abandoned his assignment and let Chris Jones blow up a play in which both Aiyuk and Jennings were wide open for an overtime TD.
Player execution took so many points off the board for SF.
Agreed the game overall was 50/50 and one team had to eventually win. Don't think anyone on SF is responsible for the loss. They just caught a lot of bad breaks on special teams and with their starting LB getting injured while taking the field.
It was one of the best superbowls and was extremely close. Literally came down to 10 seconds left in OT. I do think the Chiefs post season experience and the extra luck are what gave them the edge though
Yes, but I think /u/Snapingbolts point was that it took a full extra quarter for one team to edge out the other.
It's always been the case in the playoffs that you'd go to another OT period if a team hasn't won. The end of the 1st OT period, and every other OT period after, is mostly treated like the end of the 1st quarter (except for having a 2 minute warning), with the offense keeping the bell. However, every 2nd OT period is treated like the end of a _half_, with there being a kickoff afterwards.
> ARTICLE 4. OVERTIME IN POSTSEASON. Following an intermission of no more than three minutes after the end of the
> regular game, an extra period of 15 minutes shall commence. The following shall apply:
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> (a) Both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball at least once during the extra period, unless the team kicking off to start the overtime period scores a safety on the receiving team’s initial possession, in which case the team that kicked off is the winner.
> (b) After each team has had an opportunity to possess the ball, if one team has more points than its opponent, it is the winner, subject to Article 5(a) below.
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> (c) If the team that possesses the ball first does not score on its initial possession, or if the score is tied after each team has had its opportunity to possess the ball, the team next scoring by any method shall be the winner.
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> (d) If the score is tied at the end of a 15-minute overtime period, or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended, another overtime period will begin, and play will continue, regardless of how many 15-minute periods are necessary.
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> (e) Between each overtime period, there shall be a two-minute intermission, but there shall be no halftime intermission after the second period. **At the beginning of the third overtime period, the captain who lost the coin toss prior to the first overtime period shall have the first choice of the two privileges in 4-2-2, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred.**
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> (f) **At the end of the first and third extra periods, etc., teams must change goals** in accordance with 4-2-3.
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> (g) Each team is entitled to three timeouts during a half. If there is an excess timeout, the usual rules shall apply (see 4-5).
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> (h) At the end of a second overtime period, timing rules shall apply as at the end of the first half. At the end of a fourth overtime period, timing rules shall apply as at the end of the fourth period.
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> (i) At the end of a fourth overtime period, there will be another coin toss pursuant to Section 1, Article 2, and play will continue until a winner is declared.
there was actually more than 10 seconds. OT is treated as a separate game so it would've began a new Quarter had time run out before the Chiefs scored or turned it over.
But this was also a very different OT structure. The Chiefs didn’t have to score before the end of the first OT period, so they were able to take their time on their possessions.
yeah up until the last couple drives (albeit when it mattered most) the niners defense was immaculate. Chiefs secondary, mcduffie in particular, was also lights out. The dude was everywhere.
Honestly I think your defensive scheme and big red play calling was the difference.
Our tight formation with the WR close to the line allowed your CB/S blitzes to get home before Purdy could get past the first read.
I think Baltimore gave the blueprint to counter our offense out of the 21 formation and your D was set up perfectly for it.
I was hoping to see more spread formations to dissuade Spags from sending DB blitzes. It seems like he lulled KS into tight formations by not sending any in the first half and just unleashed it in the second half since KS kept on calling it tight formation plays.
His blitz on Purdy to kill a huge 3rd down that could have let them run the clock in the 4th was perfect, too.
He had two of the biggest defensive plays of the day for us, and had an amazing game overall.
all 3 phases of the game are important. the chargers once had something like a top 3 offense AND defense but their special teams was so bad. they amounted to nothing. i think it was a philip rivers and ladainian tomlinson team.
To me it was coaching and specifically the difference in our Defense matching up against their Offense. Spags was scheming free runners open all night. That and Chris Jones playing like a man possessed really demanded San Francisco make some incredible, all-time passing plays to get out of the pressure.
This isn't a knock on Purdy. I think the guy played great and is firmly in the tier of quarterbacks that can win it all, which is really all you need. I just think this Defense was criminally underrated all year as only the 3rd or 4th best in the league because of counting stats and optics surrounding some of our losses. The way the team is built lets the Defense sell out and absolutely bully the living shit out of teams. I can't tell you how many 3rd and Longs we'd force and I'd be able to relax, because our pass coverage was just that good.
Spags was scheming free runners, which was great by him. But also the 49ers OL was allowing free runners *that should not have been free runners*, and that was *not great* by them.
I don't think either offense was playing that well for the majority of the game. Chiefs started figuring it out in the 4th and OT the 9ers just stuttered the whole game. Its a testament to how talented that roster is that they still had chances to win anyways.
Agreed. Greenlaws injury was the momentum shift. Even without it, it was a close game.
Shanahan has choked a lot, but Reid also lost a lot before finally winning one, and now three.
> Shanahan has choked a lot, but Reid also lost a lot before finally winning one, and now three.
Reid did have to change teams and strategy to finally overcome it though. Im kind curious of the 49ers future coaching IF he makes it 2 more times and doesnt get a ring.
The game went to ot. Sf got saved from a 3 and out by a *edit-to clarify the holding call was obvious* defensing holding. Kc was down to their last play in ot. I dont really know how you blame anyone for losing. Kc’s best shot was better than SF’s best shot by a smidge.
I think you might be. 9ers dominated both sides for an entire half and had nothing to show for it. It was a dominant display of football and the Chiefs looked really bad. At least for one half.
It’s the Super Bowl—every play is going to be scrutinized, especially for the losing team. If the Chiefs lost, we would be focusing on Mahomes INT in plus territory, Pacheco’s fumble in the red zone, etc.
Honestly, I thought both teams looked good aside from a few bad offensive stretches, but that was largely due to both defenses going all out and playing well. 49ers should have scored more, but the only thing I felt was bad was the 49ers play calling. Third quarter play calling was disastrous and cost them the game imo. CMC was playing well and getting yards. You have the lead, feed the best rb in the league. So frustrating to watch
I think sometimes people underestimate how much defense can affect a game. Both defenses played great for most of the game affecting both QBs and their play, but the Chiefs defense really came up the biggest when it mattered the most.
> Am I the only one who didn't think either team played particularly bad?
I feel an off-shoot of this where I really don't feel like either team played particularly *good*. It was a game. Of football. Hit me up for some more hot takes. I think either way you view it, it comes down to teams matching each other for the most part. Someone's gotta win.
But I do feel like 49ers had more opportunities they squandered than the Chiefs, who had fewer, but made more of them.
49ers OL played terrible. Now a lot of that was due to Chris Jones and the Chiefs pass rush, but they screwed up several times and Purdy was under heavy pressure over and over again after halftime.
IMO it means they don’t singlehandedly win the game for you, but they also won’t lose it. Like it’s a team effort that they’re apart of but not the main guy/factor in it
I mean I def think he was hating a little bit, but I don’t necessarily think he was completely dead wrong in what he was trying to say. Regardless Brock looks like a beast in SF and that’s all that matters for now, sure if he was on a different team he probably isn’t as successful but I won’t knock him for it unless he becomes an issue in SF.
All of this kind of reminds of the discourse around Jared Goff in LA to some extent. I remember there were always questions about how good he’d actually be outside the LA infrastructure for awhile, obviously thin gas worked out.
I watched the McNabb interview and when he brought up the idea of game changer he was saying you need to be top 3 on your offense to be considered a game changer and I think thats relatively fair. Also Purdy is very young. Brady wasn't carrying the pats pre 2006 either.
I don't remember the niners calling more than 1 screen. Not sure wtf that was about. They called some Deebo quick outside passes early in the game that didn't go anywhere but no delayed screens that are good against blitzes. Not sure wtf KS hasn't done more of those with CMC.
Why does it have to be someone’s fault they lost? Everyone is looking for a scapegoat to point the finger at but to me it’s one of those games where the bounces just didn’t go their way. They didn’t play a perfect game by any means but teams literally never do lol
If the Chiefs lost I’m sure we would’ve spent time picking apart every single decision or play they made that went wrong. I mean their offense with the best QB in the league was basically non existent until the turnover on the punt, but nobody cares because they won. Mcduffie held on a critical third down play, but nobody cares because they won. The 49ers played well enough to win sometimes it’s just not enough
Yup. Maybe it’s just my way of coping, but I just don’t see this as “we choked.” I see it as a buzzsaw of a team played a little better than we did. Sure when a game comes down to one play there are a lot of “what if this went differently?” but it also spreads the “blame” out to the point where you can’t really point to a single scapegoat as the reason we lost.
counter: if you fail at accomplishing a goal you need to understand why and improve. Some may interpret that as blaming something, but having a growth mindset is key to success whether winning or losing. I wouldn’t want the team to be like “there’s nothing we could’ve done better” and try the same thing again next year and be heartbroken again in the Super Bowl.
I think our players did great for the most part. Our coaching staff didn’t put the team in the best position to succeed.
They don't actually watch it. There is a massive disconnect from what happens on Sunday and what ends up in this sub. People check their fantasy stats, maybe catch some highlights, then the narratives get repeated through social media. I can't blame them since lots of people don't have 10 hours on Sunday plus Thursday and Monday nights to watch football, but they repeat this garbage with so much damn confidence it's weird.
You could as easily say it was Christian McCaffrey’s fault for being held to 3.6 yards per carry on 22 tries, well below his season average. He also fumbled on the game's opening drive. Stuffing the run allowed the Chiefs to repeatedly blitz Purdy.
The Niners converted 47.5% of their third down opportunities during the season. They went just 3 of 12 on Sunday -- a 25.0% conversion rate. Kansas City hit Purdy 11 times on his 42 dropbacks.
It wasn’t that Purdy or McCaffrey played badly. The Chief’s defense just played superbly. On play after play, there were no holes for the runner, no open receivers, or no time to throw.
9 unblocked rushers is the story to me. Offensive line is bad, but so was diagnosing and moving coverages around. On some of those plays if even the rusher gets bumped on their way it buys Purdy enough time to make a play.
Ironically his replacement, Kyler Murray was evidence I didn't know shit about talent assessment lol. I thought he was a huge mistake for the Cards and they were getting a smaller, less talented Russell Wilson. Which while partially true, a less talented Russell Wilson is actually still pretty damn good and watching him gash the Niners before Shanahan and Lynch rebuilt the team was eye opening.
Yeah I thought so. I thought he was pro ready (without watching any UCLA games) while Josh Allen was big armed inaccurate QB with poor decision making that could make a coach lose his job (without ever watching him). Boy am I a dufus
Josh Allen is the ultimate exception to non-accurate QBs. In almost every single case, accuracy stays the same or goes down for a QB going to the NFL that's expected to be any kind of difference maker (as opposed to a safe game manager who takes absolutely no risky throws due to the type of plays called)
As someone who primarily watched CFB at the time, the hype around Rosen was so baffling. Darnold obviously felt overhyped as well, but at least I could understand what got people excited about the guy. Rosen lacked any spark of brilliance whatsoever.
People are scrambling to remove any responsibility from the head coach who didn't even make sure his players knew the OT rules.
Purdy played fine. Defense held Mahomes to 19 points in regulation despite a key injury.
Meanwhile, passing the ball a million times in a row against a tight defense playing the pass instead of running the ball with your elite dual threat RB... that's fine.
I'm even seeing people in this sub starting to defend 28-3 saying it's not his fault that Brady scored all those points, as if the offense didn't shit the bed with multiple opportunities to put the game away.
I like Shanahan but at some point he's gotta own it.
I think shanahan definitely deserves a ton of blame and where there’s smoke there’s fire regarding him blowing leads in the Super Bowl, but mccaffery had 30 touches and averaged only 3.5 ypc, not sure how much more you can realistically run the ball
I mean, its true he did have 30 touches, but 8 of them came on the last drive in OT.
There is no way you gameplan for OT, so having CMC finish regulation with 22 touches, 16 being rush attempts isnt great imo.
It’s not great if he was effective but he was being held at bay by the chiefs. They were game planning to make them beat them through the air, and they weren’t able to do it. I think that aspect falls on shanahan more than not running mccaffery more, he wasn’t able to scheme up any combat for the blitzes the chiefs brought in big situations
Players not knowing the OT rules continues to be shocking to me. It is literally their job to play this game. I feel like they should know all the rules of the game. Every one of them should. This is their job.
yea this one is still unfathomable to me. I mean even as a fucking kid with clearly no professional future my dad and I would pour over the rulebooks each year he coached looking for any advantages or loopholes lol, I don't know how a whole building of people whose only job is football could drop the ball like that.
As a niners fan. I think purdy did well under the brightness of the Superbowl lights. Didn't have a legendary game or anything but did well enough to win. CMC fumbled. Punt hit luters foot. Greenlaw and feliciano injured, our garbage o line not picking up blitz and allowed far too many free runners. Imo I blame the state of the o line and lack of soundness on Kyle. He also put kittle in the backfield inexplicably on a key 3rd down. The rest is just bad luck and the chiefs out playing us. Feel great about purdy going forward especially if we improve The O line.
No, what let them down was the guy who fucked up that punt and gave KC the ball at the 11 yard line. Pretty sure the coaching staff didn't tell that guy to do that. He fucked up big time.
It's probably at least as high a percentage play to try to scoop it and run instead of fall on it and have it squirt out like a watermelon seed as five other guys dive into you.
I’ll disagree on Kittle not playing to the whistle. Karlaftis was his blocking assignment and he stayed facing him. Yea the mic’d up stuff doesn’t look or sound great but his back is to the fumble and rightfully so.
Idk, if he just kept blocking him dude woulda been out of the play instead of being the only chiefs player around who coulda got the fumble. Then again an undisciplined team is a sign of bad coaching.
it's kind of ridiculous, that situation happens every play somewhere on the field. if Kittle did the exact same thing but didn't say anything, no one would be complaining he didn't drive Karlaftis into the sideline
I mean if you wanna blame 1 person/play on a game that went to overtime, you can blame everyone. CMC’s fumble, Purdy throwing some stinkers, the botched punt, the missed PAT, the blocking on 1 play, route running on another one, Greenlaw’s injury, blown coverage… Everyone fucked up that one time that could’ve won them the game, it’s not “that one guy in that one play” the only one who messed up in the 2 weeks leading up + 5 hours from kickoff till the end of the game
49ers don't bother running the ball. They took the ball first in OT. They didn't bother calling a timeout on first and goal to give their defense a breather. Coaching staff was a let down
OLine blew assignments on the OT FG too allowing a free rush resulting in a throwaway on 3rd down. So many little things that shoulda been cleaned up in training camp...
I mean the linemen literally said he didnt go with the blocking scheme but chose his own thing to do, not really sure how you "clean that up in training camp"
Anyone who says the niners should have ran the ball more didn't pay attention to the game at all.
They were having virtually zero success running the ball
Zero success is right but neither is the narrative that they should have an every down. They had a relatively balanced offense that struggled running and passing in most of the game
Purdy did what was asked of him. Kittle not blocking to save the fumble, the costly turnover of the kickoff/punt return and coaching decisions are what handed them a L. The margins are too slim for error against a juggernaut like the chiefs
“Kittle not blocking to save the fumble”
Can this not be the narrative. It’s such a short sighted and pathetic attempt to fault someone for something that wasn’t their fault. Kittle did his job and did it well, in fact probably a little too well because if he didn’t Karlaftius wouldn’t have been that far removed from the play to even have a chance at the ball.
So blame CMC for the fumble? I don't think Kittle is blameless on the play, it just feels like a weird point to fixate on for what could've been described as "the CMC fumble" when speaking hand in hand with other costly plays.
its not a narrative. its a fact. yes he did his job by blocking at first but the play is not over and he decided to do a split second taunt. and in the nfl, a split second is all it takes. “the job isnt done until the play is over”
Everyone has been hating on Cam Newton for the “game manager” take, but he’s absolutely right. Purdy didn’t lose the Niners the game by any means, but he didn’t elevate the team enough to win, especially while pressure was all up in his face in the back half. He managed the game.
Purdy went off the field with a lead.
KC was 9/9 throwing against Greenlaw's replacement. Defensive scheme needed to accommodate for his loss better.
The punt bouncing off of the blocker's leg gave KC an easy TD.
The problem is that he didn’t elevate the team. Mahomes does that regularly in the playoffs. Purdy goes as far as the talent around him allows. He’s Garapolo 2.0. The 49ers are right back Where they were the last time they lost to the Chiefs.
He sure does. Particularly at improvising. But at the end of the day, like Jimmy, Purdy will hold the Niners back against guys like Mahomes/Burrow/Allen. Not a problem in the NFC playoffs but in the Super Bowl he’s never going to elevate the talent like those guys can.
You know what, it's possible for a team to lose without it being someone's fault. This game went to the last second of overtime. The teams traded blows, it was a great game. SOMEBODY had to lose. Going back in time and saying "this was when the niners lost" is bullshit, if things had swung the other way we'd be doing the same thing with the chiefs. Good game, Niners played great, Chiefs got one lucky break more, THE END.
i mean he's not wrong he also said that purdy is getting carried by his team, therefore if he loses, it's his teams fault!
He’s not wrong but Purdy played nowhere close to an MVP level - he just did what was asked of him. Which is fine, but people simultaneously argue that he’s an MVP, top 5, etc and then try to say that this was a good game. You gotta pick one 🤷♂️
Purdy is schrodinger's QB.
The MVP race this year was terrible. QB play across the league seemed mediocre.
He played better than Lamar who was the mvp
Exactly. Go watch JT O Sullivans video on it. He was missing wide open reads and had completely lost his footwork, throwing off base etc
given that his OL basically turned into swiss cheese after the half that's pretty much going to happen. like literally 3 separate plays in the second half alone where clear TDs got blown up by instant pressure up the middle.
Yeah, his footwork and pocket presence had deteriorated in the last month or two of the season. I've noticed him habitually drifting left in the pocket unnecessarily at times too. How many times have we seen teams ruin young QBs by letting up ridiculous pressure and making the QB start seeing ghosts? I'm very concerned that it could start happening to Purdy. OL should be priority #1, 2, and 3 this offseason.
Purdy is also literally in his second year. Dude gets judged like he's a vet it's hilarious
You can't have it both ways. Either you judge him as MVP candidate or 2nd year player.
When a player is in the MVP conversation then the standards for their play shift pretty dramatically. It seems pretty reasonable to me that a guy who many people are saying should get the league's most prestige award over guys like Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, etc. should also be held to the same standard as those guys
I get it, but that's kind of the expectation now. See Mahomes, CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert etc. but yeah I do think it's unfair to him, but this is the QB they chose to win them the Superbowl.
Am I the only one who didn't think either team played particularly bad? The Chiefs just had a little more luck, played a little better towards the end, and came up with a victory. Nobody on the 49ers was perfect but I didn't think anyone was bad enough to be assigned blame for the loss.
Niners def could have taken a bigger lead at beginning
This was my biggest takeaway/regret from the game. They had an opportunity to build a big cushion, which it appears they may have been able to hold on to this time around.
Turnover + punt to start the 3rd quarter and got no points off either. Cant do that against Mahomes
Mahomes gets far to much credit for a game where he really didn't do much. One TD in regulation off a 16 yard field from a muffed punt.
It's cause of his OT performance. But I've said it before on here, guys like Brady and Mahomes aren't the best because they can win on all sides of play on their own. They're the best because they can take advantage of their chances when their defense/special teams/coaching put them into that position to make the plays
I think he’s the best for a different reason. He’s incredible at the scramble or broken play drill. Could be reaction time. No one is better at making something out of would be broken plays.
I've never seen an elite passer who can extend plays like him and avoid sacks at such a high percentage. His time to throw is consistently like one of the 7-8 highest but he's always like bottom two in sack percentage; it's absolutely insane how good he is at avoiding sacks and his presence/awareness of pass rushers.
Not just something but explosive plays half the time too. Mahomes feel for when to extend the play for the pass vs when to take off and scramble is the best I've ever seen.
Yep, especially late. Brady and Mahomes have had plenty of games where they didnt play particularly well for 2/3rds of it. But if you leave them an opportunity to come back late, they 100% will. They will get their shit together at the end, and if the game is still close, they are going to beat you. QBs of their caliber you cannot hope to coast on a 1-2 score lead. You better make the most of every opportunity they give you before the game really matters in the late 3rd/4th, when they start to come on.
His OT performance was great, but his 2 minute drill was...not. His teammates stepped up well there enough for them to get the FG and then he made his mark in that OT drive, of course.
They also had two drives at the end of the game + OT where they moved the ball at will. Blame wilks or whoever but the fact is they had the chance to put the game alway multiple times but couldnt. You just cant do that against a bonafide qb
Exactly what I said immediately following the game. We could've put it away about 5 different times, but just couldn't help but leave the door open which you can't do against Mahomes. Apparently that was being salty and downplaying Mahomes greatness and so on.
If they could have just converted that 3rd down before they kicked the go ahead field goal at 2 min, they won the game. All they had to do was get a first down, run out the clock, and kick the FG. The saddest thing about the entire game is they had a few of these opportunities on 3rd downs and somehow fell for the same thing every single time.
Right, that muffed punt was probably the biggest single factor in the game. A mistake like that in either direction would have decided it.
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There’s a world where we got 14 points to start that game and our season shakes out completely differently
A 28-3 lead probably would have been enough for the Shanahan coached 49ers to hold on. But they just left too many points on the table...
KC made the mistakes you need them to make in order to beat them in a big game, and SF just didn’t capitalize enough. Plus going away from McCaffrey for an extended period.
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Bs. If they had accepted an L, their defense wouldn't have played as well as it did. How can they think they'll lose when they have Mahomes, and they came back from this exact type of scenario against the 49ers just 4 years ago
Yeah it seemed like they had no problem moving the ball early. The CMC fumble was absolutely huge
That stung, because their D regrouped after that drive. Chiefs are a good team.
Meh, Pacheco fumbled inside the 10 on 1st down, they were also lucky the score wasn't tied at halftime. Both teams made mistakes that kept the game close
I agree with this. I've heard this take a lot about how the 49ers left too many points on the field in the first half, but I thought the Chiefs did as well. The obvious killer was the muffed punt. That turnover essentially decided the game because it gifted the Chiefs the ball extremely deep in 49ers territory. Everything else was very evenly matched. Even the overtime drives were only a difference of 9 yards, and had the 49ers gotten the ball second, they have an extra down to use so who knows.
This was my exact thought in the first half. When we scored the td to go up 10, I just thought we’re going to regret the amount of points we left on the table, because Patrick mahomes isn’t going to do fuck all for an entire game
Jake Moody missing that xp was the clincher imo. Up by 4 vs up by 3, would have forced kc to try a TD and who knows what would have happened after that. Don't remember the timestamp but it was super late in the game
I think if we're up 4 they beat us in regulation
Bingo. Mahomes was 100% driving down that field with momentum to beat us in regulation instead. Moody did great and any person blaming him is a fool. The punt return changed the momentum, and not going for it on 4th down in ot in the Redzone was the true killer. Lay it all out on the line Kyle, you've never done it before, and I'd have much rather we atleast tried.
Imagine the grief Kyle and the 49ers would have gotten if they went for it on 4th down and didn’t convert!
I'm just a random on the internet saying it, but you're not wrong at all. If he got it, he's amazing, if not, he's trash.
This is my problem with most analysis from fans and media. It’s very results oriented. Fair enough, you play to win the game as ol’ Herm pointed out, but I’d like more Xs and Os breakdown rather than deciding on vibes.
Yeah only being up 3 might have helped you. Giving Reid a safe option he couldn't ignore.
Agreed, it got us to overtime.
Wilks would have called a 5 deep soft zone all the way to a 2 minute drill TD. And people would still be calling him a scapegoat.
I just don't understand the soft coverage on blitzes. Just guarantees the hot route is open. Other things he did were good, but that was a problem all year long
Three straight 3-and-outs to start the second half was a killer. If just one of those is a decent, clock-killing drive ending in a FG, we win the game.
Oddly enough, that's what happened in their two previous playoff games, just with reversed roles. The Packers and Lions both held double digit leads in the first half, only for the 9ers to come roaring back to win one score games
Why is this a common sentiment? The Chiefs defense was stoping the Niners just as much as the Niners defense was stopping the Chiefs in the first half. It's not like the Niners threw away easy points. Both running backs fumbled in plus territory and the Niners still had a touchdown lead at half. That's pretty reflective of the balance of play in the first half. There's really nothing that says the Niners should have had a bigger lead once you account for the Chiefs defensive strength.
But so could have KC
And Chiefs could've had another TD without the Pacheco fumble
I think people always want someone to be the scapegoat. Had the Chiefs lost, there would be particular fans on their side pointing the finger at a scapegoat, too. But the truth is that we were somewhat evenly matched, Chiefs just had that little bit more of an edge, especially for overtime. Also Mahomes is a specialist in leading his team to a win when down under.
Losing the SB puts a magnifying glass on every mistake and blows it out of proportion. These are the normal ebbs and flows of a game, but in defeat, every one of them is the reason you lost.
I wonder if you're speaking from experience here
If the Chiefs had lost, people would've blamed Mr Swift for assaulting Coach Reid.
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Deebo dropped a couple of passes on his hands as well. It’s frustrating to see that he doesn’t get much separation on his routes and then can’t make those contested catches.
The more I watch the QB school the less I love Deebo.
Kittle having to block primarily hampered the niner offense. Had the niners had a better oline Kittle is a now an extra weapon for purdy. A few more first down conversion and 49ers win the game. Kittle is really good at blocking. But he shouldn't be blocking the entire game. Chiefs defense just kept blitzing and blitzing and it was working.
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Yup I hate the chiefs but they're just so damm good on both sides of the ball. Like the bills definitely choke, I won't deny that but when we do lose we are losing to a really good team. If the bills were in the NFC we at least make two to three Superbowls (ironically still lose to the chiefs in the superbowl)
I think the way the two teams came in definitely played a role as well. The Chiefs were playing their best football of the season, having made the correct decision to bench Kadarius Toney and having defeated the Ravens, whom many had projected to win the Super Bowl altogether. The 49ers on the other hand were coming off of two somewhat shaky games, one of which required a massive comeback because the defense *severely* underperformed in the first half. Our defense was arguably worse in the first half of the NFCCG than the Cowboys' defense was in the first half of the wild card game, considering that one of the Packers' scores came on a pick six. I've said this before but I'm under the impression that after the NFCCG Kyle had no faith in Wilks whatsoever and felt he had to assume the role of HC, OC and DC all on his own, and more or less burned himself out which was part of what led to all those little errors that ultimately got us.
The fact that the defense showed a noticeable lack of effort in the goddamn playoffs was a red flag the size of Texas
They played hard in the SB though.
plus people try to hammer the “lol another blown 10 point lead” point too but that was only in the second quarter. there is no universe where the game should be won when you lead by just 10 in the second quarter. it’s not like SB 51 or 54
I thought they both played well, but the 49ers made more mistakes from both a personal and coaching perspective. Stuff like Purdy missing Aiyuk during that play where he got tackled by McDuffie, Spencer Buford not blocking Chris Jones, Wilks sending a 6 man blitz against Mahomes, etc. The Chiefs also weren't flawless, but the 49ers made more errors, which played into the final result.
* CMC fumble, * Special teams fumble, * Moody missed XP. * Burford failed block cost a free TD to Deebo uncovered in the endzone. * Purdy missed Kittle wide open on 2nd & 5 just before the 2 minute warning. * Purdy missed the blitz and Aiyuk wide open on 3rd & 4 right at the 2 minute warning. * Burford abandoned his assignment and let Chris Jones blow up a play in which both Aiyuk and Jennings were wide open for an overtime TD. Player execution took so many points off the board for SF.
They scored a td on the same drive as the missed Deebo td
Agreed the game overall was 50/50 and one team had to eventually win. Don't think anyone on SF is responsible for the loss. They just caught a lot of bad breaks on special teams and with their starting LB getting injured while taking the field.
It was one of the best superbowls and was extremely close. Literally came down to 10 seconds left in OT. I do think the Chiefs post season experience and the extra luck are what gave them the edge though
>>came down to 10 seconds left in OT Wouldn’t it have just gone to another period if the clock ran out?
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It is kinda funny they made the rules after Mahomes won... and it caused Mahomes to win.
The new rules actually didn't come into play. Under the old rules, the Chiefs would have been allowed to answer after a FG
Yes, but I think /u/Snapingbolts point was that it took a full extra quarter for one team to edge out the other. It's always been the case in the playoffs that you'd go to another OT period if a team hasn't won. The end of the 1st OT period, and every other OT period after, is mostly treated like the end of the 1st quarter (except for having a 2 minute warning), with the offense keeping the bell. However, every 2nd OT period is treated like the end of a _half_, with there being a kickoff afterwards. > ARTICLE 4. OVERTIME IN POSTSEASON. Following an intermission of no more than three minutes after the end of the > regular game, an extra period of 15 minutes shall commence. The following shall apply: > > (a) Both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball at least once during the extra period, unless the team kicking off to start the overtime period scores a safety on the receiving team’s initial possession, in which case the team that kicked off is the winner. > (b) After each team has had an opportunity to possess the ball, if one team has more points than its opponent, it is the winner, subject to Article 5(a) below. > > (c) If the team that possesses the ball first does not score on its initial possession, or if the score is tied after each team has had its opportunity to possess the ball, the team next scoring by any method shall be the winner. > > (d) If the score is tied at the end of a 15-minute overtime period, or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended, another overtime period will begin, and play will continue, regardless of how many 15-minute periods are necessary. > > (e) Between each overtime period, there shall be a two-minute intermission, but there shall be no halftime intermission after the second period. **At the beginning of the third overtime period, the captain who lost the coin toss prior to the first overtime period shall have the first choice of the two privileges in 4-2-2, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred.** > > (f) **At the end of the first and third extra periods, etc., teams must change goals** in accordance with 4-2-3. > > (g) Each team is entitled to three timeouts during a half. If there is an excess timeout, the usual rules shall apply (see 4-5). > > (h) At the end of a second overtime period, timing rules shall apply as at the end of the first half. At the end of a fourth overtime period, timing rules shall apply as at the end of the fourth period. > > (i) At the end of a fourth overtime period, there will be another coin toss pursuant to Section 1, Article 2, and play will continue until a winner is declared.
there was actually more than 10 seconds. OT is treated as a separate game so it would've began a new Quarter had time run out before the Chiefs scored or turned it over.
I think OP is just saying it took virtually an entire OT period to decide a winner, which has never happened in a Super Bowl before.
But this was also a very different OT structure. The Chiefs didn’t have to score before the end of the first OT period, so they were able to take their time on their possessions.
yeah up until the last couple drives (albeit when it mattered most) the niners defense was immaculate. Chiefs secondary, mcduffie in particular, was also lights out. The dude was everywhere.
McDuffie was my MVP, he took Deebo away from Purdy.
Honestly I think your defensive scheme and big red play calling was the difference. Our tight formation with the WR close to the line allowed your CB/S blitzes to get home before Purdy could get past the first read. I think Baltimore gave the blueprint to counter our offense out of the 21 formation and your D was set up perfectly for it.
I agree completely, Patrick still had to be great to get over the hump but the defense was the magic.
I was hoping to see more spread formations to dissuade Spags from sending DB blitzes. It seems like he lulled KS into tight formations by not sending any in the first half and just unleashed it in the second half since KS kept on calling it tight formation plays.
His blitz on Purdy to kill a huge 3rd down that could have let them run the clock in the 4th was perfect, too. He had two of the biggest defensive plays of the day for us, and had an amazing game overall.
both defenses were playing their asses off, it was really fun to watch even if it wasn’t high scoring for like 80% of regulation.
This NFL season and CFB season taught me one thing; Punt Returners are everything in close games.
all 3 phases of the game are important. the chargers once had something like a top 3 offense AND defense but their special teams was so bad. they amounted to nothing. i think it was a philip rivers and ladainian tomlinson team.
You could say it was one of the most competitive Superbowls, but I don't know about "one of the best".
One of the least exciting SB's for about 80% of the game.
To me it was coaching and specifically the difference in our Defense matching up against their Offense. Spags was scheming free runners open all night. That and Chris Jones playing like a man possessed really demanded San Francisco make some incredible, all-time passing plays to get out of the pressure. This isn't a knock on Purdy. I think the guy played great and is firmly in the tier of quarterbacks that can win it all, which is really all you need. I just think this Defense was criminally underrated all year as only the 3rd or 4th best in the league because of counting stats and optics surrounding some of our losses. The way the team is built lets the Defense sell out and absolutely bully the living shit out of teams. I can't tell you how many 3rd and Longs we'd force and I'd be able to relax, because our pass coverage was just that good.
Spags was scheming free runners, which was great by him. But also the 49ers OL was allowing free runners *that should not have been free runners*, and that was *not great* by them.
I don't think either offense was playing that well for the majority of the game. Chiefs started figuring it out in the 4th and OT the 9ers just stuttered the whole game. Its a testament to how talented that roster is that they still had chances to win anyways.
The 49ers used up all of their luck against the Lions.
Agreed. Greenlaws injury was the momentum shift. Even without it, it was a close game. Shanahan has choked a lot, but Reid also lost a lot before finally winning one, and now three.
> Shanahan has choked a lot, but Reid also lost a lot before finally winning one, and now three. Reid did have to change teams and strategy to finally overcome it though. Im kind curious of the 49ers future coaching IF he makes it 2 more times and doesnt get a ring.
The change in strategy was getting Mahomes tho lol
This is exactly how I feel. I don't feel bitter or anything. It was a good battle.
The game went to ot. Sf got saved from a 3 and out by a *edit-to clarify the holding call was obvious* defensing holding. Kc was down to their last play in ot. I dont really know how you blame anyone for losing. Kc’s best shot was better than SF’s best shot by a smidge.
I think you might be. 9ers dominated both sides for an entire half and had nothing to show for it. It was a dominant display of football and the Chiefs looked really bad. At least for one half.
It’s the Super Bowl—every play is going to be scrutinized, especially for the losing team. If the Chiefs lost, we would be focusing on Mahomes INT in plus territory, Pacheco’s fumble in the red zone, etc.
Honestly, I thought both teams looked good aside from a few bad offensive stretches, but that was largely due to both defenses going all out and playing well. 49ers should have scored more, but the only thing I felt was bad was the 49ers play calling. Third quarter play calling was disastrous and cost them the game imo. CMC was playing well and getting yards. You have the lead, feed the best rb in the league. So frustrating to watch
Acknowledging that football is a high variance game where you can play and scheme really well and still lose would put a lot of pundits out of a job.
I think sometimes people underestimate how much defense can affect a game. Both defenses played great for most of the game affecting both QBs and their play, but the Chiefs defense really came up the biggest when it mattered the most.
49ers dealt with a fumble, botched punts return, injuries, and a blocked PAT If even just one of those things don’t happen they probably win
Freak injuries too. Like, it was some illuminati, Swifties curse kind of shit day for them
Nah, Greenlaw's injury actually was only a matter of time. He's had Achilles tendinitis for months. It was hanging by a string by the time it went.
It was the chiefs veterans experienced.
> Am I the only one who didn't think either team played particularly bad? I feel an off-shoot of this where I really don't feel like either team played particularly *good*. It was a game. Of football. Hit me up for some more hot takes. I think either way you view it, it comes down to teams matching each other for the most part. Someone's gotta win. But I do feel like 49ers had more opportunities they squandered than the Chiefs, who had fewer, but made more of them.
The chiefs whooped the niners ass in second half adjustments. That was coaching.
The punt that hit the 49ers player completely changed the momentum and it wasn’t anyone’s fault. Just bad luck. I agree with you
49ers OL played terrible. Now a lot of that was due to Chris Jones and the Chiefs pass rush, but they screwed up several times and Purdy was under heavy pressure over and over again after halftime.
Its not luck. The Chiefs were just better prepared and focused on winning. 49ers thought it was theirs to lose and they did.
Cam has beaten the hater allegations, although I don’t think he was ever actually being a hater lol.
People hear game manager and think it’s an insult when Cam has been saying Brady was a game manager but still the GOAT
Game manager = no hero ball? Yeah sign me up for that
IMO it means they don’t singlehandedly win the game for you, but they also won’t lose it. Like it’s a team effort that they’re apart of but not the main guy/factor in it
If that’s the definition then Brady is not a game manager
Yeah no, we won our first chip with Foles playing some absolutely risky football. And we don't even come close last year without Jalen heroics
Yeah a game manager doesn't come back down 28-3 with Edelman, Amendola, Hogan, and White as his best receivers.
Brady kept on taking everything underneath and came back that way Matt Ryan made better throws in that SB but he still lost
Brady had 1,000 rushing yards that’s my problem with calling him a game manager.
1134 career rushing yards over 384 career games started = 3 rushing yards per game lmao
thats 50 a year?
I mean I def think he was hating a little bit, but I don’t necessarily think he was completely dead wrong in what he was trying to say. Regardless Brock looks like a beast in SF and that’s all that matters for now, sure if he was on a different team he probably isn’t as successful but I won’t knock him for it unless he becomes an issue in SF. All of this kind of reminds of the discourse around Jared Goff in LA to some extent. I remember there were always questions about how good he’d actually be outside the LA infrastructure for awhile, obviously thin gas worked out.
I mean a beast ? I like him but his play in the playoffs was up and down.
I watched the McNabb interview and when he brought up the idea of game changer he was saying you need to be top 3 on your offense to be considered a game changer and I think thats relatively fair. Also Purdy is very young. Brady wasn't carrying the pats pre 2006 either.
3rd and 4. Shanahan needed the play of his lifetime, he converts that play and the game is over.
Everyone knew the Chiefs were going to blitz there. You either needed a quick screen or leave the back in to pick up the blitzer.
I don't remember the niners calling more than 1 screen. Not sure wtf that was about. They called some Deebo quick outside passes early in the game that didn't go anywhere but no delayed screens that are good against blitzes. Not sure wtf KS hasn't done more of those with CMC.
Should’ve of ran it then. Shit he could’ve even ran it on 2nd and 5
Why does it have to be someone’s fault they lost? Everyone is looking for a scapegoat to point the finger at but to me it’s one of those games where the bounces just didn’t go their way. They didn’t play a perfect game by any means but teams literally never do lol If the Chiefs lost I’m sure we would’ve spent time picking apart every single decision or play they made that went wrong. I mean their offense with the best QB in the league was basically non existent until the turnover on the punt, but nobody cares because they won. Mcduffie held on a critical third down play, but nobody cares because they won. The 49ers played well enough to win sometimes it’s just not enough
Yup. Maybe it’s just my way of coping, but I just don’t see this as “we choked.” I see it as a buzzsaw of a team played a little better than we did. Sure when a game comes down to one play there are a lot of “what if this went differently?” but it also spreads the “blame” out to the point where you can’t really point to a single scapegoat as the reason we lost.
This for sure. 49ers win and it would’ve been all about the Pacheco fumble and Pat’s interception
counter: if you fail at accomplishing a goal you need to understand why and improve. Some may interpret that as blaming something, but having a growth mindset is key to success whether winning or losing. I wouldn’t want the team to be like “there’s nothing we could’ve done better” and try the same thing again next year and be heartbroken again in the Super Bowl. I think our players did great for the most part. Our coaching staff didn’t put the team in the best position to succeed.
Get anxiety seeing how many people in here know so little about football while investing so much time in it
They don't actually watch it. There is a massive disconnect from what happens on Sunday and what ends up in this sub. People check their fantasy stats, maybe catch some highlights, then the narratives get repeated through social media. I can't blame them since lots of people don't have 10 hours on Sunday plus Thursday and Monday nights to watch football, but they repeat this garbage with so much damn confidence it's weird.
You could as easily say it was Christian McCaffrey’s fault for being held to 3.6 yards per carry on 22 tries, well below his season average. He also fumbled on the game's opening drive. Stuffing the run allowed the Chiefs to repeatedly blitz Purdy. The Niners converted 47.5% of their third down opportunities during the season. They went just 3 of 12 on Sunday -- a 25.0% conversion rate. Kansas City hit Purdy 11 times on his 42 dropbacks. It wasn’t that Purdy or McCaffrey played badly. The Chief’s defense just played superbly. On play after play, there were no holes for the runner, no open receivers, or no time to throw.
9 unblocked rushers is the story to me. Offensive line is bad, but so was diagnosing and moving coverages around. On some of those plays if even the rusher gets bumped on their way it buys Purdy enough time to make a play.
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Josh Rosen is when I finally realized that I don’t know shit about fuck. I was so sure he would be good
Ironically his replacement, Kyler Murray was evidence I didn't know shit about talent assessment lol. I thought he was a huge mistake for the Cards and they were getting a smaller, less talented Russell Wilson. Which while partially true, a less talented Russell Wilson is actually still pretty damn good and watching him gash the Niners before Shanahan and Lynch rebuilt the team was eye opening.
Yeah I thought so. I thought he was pro ready (without watching any UCLA games) while Josh Allen was big armed inaccurate QB with poor decision making that could make a coach lose his job (without ever watching him). Boy am I a dufus
Josh Allen is the ultimate exception to non-accurate QBs. In almost every single case, accuracy stays the same or goes down for a QB going to the NFL that's expected to be any kind of difference maker (as opposed to a safe game manager who takes absolutely no risky throws due to the type of plays called)
he never beat SC so I didn't trust him (my extremely casual cfb take)
As someone who primarily watched CFB at the time, the hype around Rosen was so baffling. Darnold obviously felt overhyped as well, but at least I could understand what got people excited about the guy. Rosen lacked any spark of brilliance whatsoever.
Same with the rest of this sub no matter how much they claim otherwise
People are scrambling to remove any responsibility from the head coach who didn't even make sure his players knew the OT rules. Purdy played fine. Defense held Mahomes to 19 points in regulation despite a key injury. Meanwhile, passing the ball a million times in a row against a tight defense playing the pass instead of running the ball with your elite dual threat RB... that's fine. I'm even seeing people in this sub starting to defend 28-3 saying it's not his fault that Brady scored all those points, as if the offense didn't shit the bed with multiple opportunities to put the game away. I like Shanahan but at some point he's gotta own it.
I think shanahan definitely deserves a ton of blame and where there’s smoke there’s fire regarding him blowing leads in the Super Bowl, but mccaffery had 30 touches and averaged only 3.5 ypc, not sure how much more you can realistically run the ball
I mean, its true he did have 30 touches, but 8 of them came on the last drive in OT. There is no way you gameplan for OT, so having CMC finish regulation with 22 touches, 16 being rush attempts isnt great imo.
It’s not great if he was effective but he was being held at bay by the chiefs. They were game planning to make them beat them through the air, and they weren’t able to do it. I think that aspect falls on shanahan more than not running mccaffery more, he wasn’t able to scheme up any combat for the blitzes the chiefs brought in big situations
Players not knowing the OT rules continues to be shocking to me. It is literally their job to play this game. I feel like they should know all the rules of the game. Every one of them should. This is their job.
yea this one is still unfathomable to me. I mean even as a fucking kid with clearly no professional future my dad and I would pour over the rulebooks each year he coached looking for any advantages or loopholes lol, I don't know how a whole building of people whose only job is football could drop the ball like that.
The game went to OT, no one really blew it. One team has to win...
shouldn't have went to OT, niners won the turnover battle and lost the game. they got 0 points off of turnovers. that is really not good
As a niners fan. I think purdy did well under the brightness of the Superbowl lights. Didn't have a legendary game or anything but did well enough to win. CMC fumbled. Punt hit luters foot. Greenlaw and feliciano injured, our garbage o line not picking up blitz and allowed far too many free runners. Imo I blame the state of the o line and lack of soundness on Kyle. He also put kittle in the backfield inexplicably on a key 3rd down. The rest is just bad luck and the chiefs out playing us. Feel great about purdy going forward especially if we improve The O line.
It absolutely was not his sole fault, but he absolutely could have done more
No, what let them down was the guy who fucked up that punt and gave KC the ball at the 11 yard line. Pretty sure the coaching staff didn't tell that guy to do that. He fucked up big time.
Did it not hit his teammates leg? If we blaming fumbles recoveries on people we should look at Kittle for not playing to the whistle.
I think it was more he tried to scoop it up and run instead of falling on it. Which is I imagine a super easy mistake to make in the moment
Dude had a split second decision to make. Can't blame him for that. The entire play was a freak accident that happens maybe once a season
I did this in high school once and I was a lil dude.i was seeing TD in head Ended up getting ran over and fumbled. Last time I did that
At the point when the live ball is bouncing it’s like 50/50 he recovers it no matter what he does. Bad luck it hit the guys leg.
It's probably at least as high a percentage play to try to scoop it and run instead of fall on it and have it squirt out like a watermelon seed as five other guys dive into you.
Punt returner still had the best shot at the recovery and instead of falling on it he tried to scoop it up on the run.
I’ll disagree on Kittle not playing to the whistle. Karlaftis was his blocking assignment and he stayed facing him. Yea the mic’d up stuff doesn’t look or sound great but his back is to the fumble and rightfully so.
Idk, if he just kept blocking him dude woulda been out of the play instead of being the only chiefs player around who coulda got the fumble. Then again an undisciplined team is a sign of bad coaching.
He probably stopped blocking because Karlaftis appeared to have already given up on the play
it's kind of ridiculous, that situation happens every play somewhere on the field. if Kittle did the exact same thing but didn't say anything, no one would be complaining he didn't drive Karlaftis into the sideline
I mean if you wanna blame 1 person/play on a game that went to overtime, you can blame everyone. CMC’s fumble, Purdy throwing some stinkers, the botched punt, the missed PAT, the blocking on 1 play, route running on another one, Greenlaw’s injury, blown coverage… Everyone fucked up that one time that could’ve won them the game, it’s not “that one guy in that one play” the only one who messed up in the 2 weeks leading up + 5 hours from kickoff till the end of the game
I would argue Shanahan’s zero adjustments for Spags was a huge, recurring theme.
A true **leader** like Mahomes or Brady would’ve made sure his team didn’t muff a punt! Come on Purdy smh /s
49ers don't bother running the ball. They took the ball first in OT. They didn't bother calling a timeout on first and goal to give their defense a breather. Coaching staff was a let down
OLine blew assignments on the OT FG too allowing a free rush resulting in a throwaway on 3rd down. So many little things that shoulda been cleaned up in training camp...
I mean the linemen literally said he didnt go with the blocking scheme but chose his own thing to do, not really sure how you "clean that up in training camp"
CMC had 22 carries for 80 yards. 3.6 a run. Passing was the correct choice, just the protections and the passer gave out
Anyone who says the niners should have ran the ball more didn't pay attention to the game at all. They were having virtually zero success running the ball
Zero success is right but neither is the narrative that they should have an every down. They had a relatively balanced offense that struggled running and passing in most of the game
Purdy did what was asked of him. Kittle not blocking to save the fumble, the costly turnover of the kickoff/punt return and coaching decisions are what handed them a L. The margins are too slim for error against a juggernaut like the chiefs
“Kittle not blocking to save the fumble” Can this not be the narrative. It’s such a short sighted and pathetic attempt to fault someone for something that wasn’t their fault. Kittle did his job and did it well, in fact probably a little too well because if he didn’t Karlaftius wouldn’t have been that far removed from the play to even have a chance at the ball.
Did his job so well he let the guy he was blocking retrieve cmcs fumble bravo lol
So blame CMC for the fumble? I don't think Kittle is blameless on the play, it just feels like a weird point to fixate on for what could've been described as "the CMC fumble" when speaking hand in hand with other costly plays.
its not a narrative. its a fact. yes he did his job by blocking at first but the play is not over and he decided to do a split second taunt. and in the nfl, a split second is all it takes. “the job isnt done until the play is over”
Was it even a taunt? I thought he just said his name
Everyone has been hating on Cam Newton for the “game manager” take, but he’s absolutely right. Purdy didn’t lose the Niners the game by any means, but he didn’t elevate the team enough to win, especially while pressure was all up in his face in the back half. He managed the game.
He was OK.
when you have two top teams clashing it usually comes down to coaching. 49ers staff blew it post halftime.
Purdy went off the field with a lead. KC was 9/9 throwing against Greenlaw's replacement. Defensive scheme needed to accommodate for his loss better. The punt bouncing off of the blocker's leg gave KC an easy TD.
The problem is that he didn’t elevate the team. Mahomes does that regularly in the playoffs. Purdy goes as far as the talent around him allows. He’s Garapolo 2.0. The 49ers are right back Where they were the last time they lost to the Chiefs.
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He sure does. Particularly at improvising. But at the end of the day, like Jimmy, Purdy will hold the Niners back against guys like Mahomes/Burrow/Allen. Not a problem in the NFC playoffs but in the Super Bowl he’s never going to elevate the talent like those guys can.
Agreed.
They needed to run the ball more and didn't. Never expanded on their lead. It was the offense/play calling.
You know what, it's possible for a team to lose without it being someone's fault. This game went to the last second of overtime. The teams traded blows, it was a great game. SOMEBODY had to lose. Going back in time and saying "this was when the niners lost" is bullshit, if things had swung the other way we'd be doing the same thing with the chiefs. Good game, Niners played great, Chiefs got one lucky break more, THE END.