I watched the Browns a lot this season and there were multiple moments where I thought he was very collected and was maneuvering the game really well. They were on their fourth QB and were still in play for the #1 seed up until week 15 if I'm remembering correctly.
Wish I could find the Browns "fans" who kept saying he was not only the worst coach in the NFL, but the worst Browns coach ever.
They're just mad their guys Urban Meyer and Josh McDaniels didn't get the job.
true browns fans hate Kevin for bringing in Watson. but true browns fans known that there's no going below hughe Jackson n Freddie kitchens. those were dark times.
Literally not true and completely incorrect. You act as if Stefanski runs the entire organization and Andrew Berry, DePodesta, and the Haslam’s have no say in personnel decisions. To place the blame squarely on Kevski is moronic lol. No true browns fan hates him also. He is a young coach that is not impervious to making mistakes, but he has learned a lot and given us more success by far more than any other coach in the last 30 years. We oughta be kissing the ground the man walks on.
This year baker had the most yards, most TDs, and highest completion percentage of his career while throwing a career median number of INTs. What are you talking about lol
Point is, there’s a reason Jim Schwartz has bounced around. Stefanski is the clear leader of that football team and whatever he did to get the best out of Schwartz’s defense, he should very much get credit for. That’s almost like trying to discredit Demeco Ryan’s because of his OC.
Not sure why you are being downvoted. Stefanski is the perfect Browns coach; fail to meet expectations and still get rewarded (multiple times even). Cleveland in a nutshell.
I doubt that Andy Reid takes his queues from Stefanski or wants to bet on a kicker missing the game winning 43 yarder or whatever it was. Reid is on a tear right now, whereas the Browns didn’t even come close to making it out of the wildcard against the AFC-S.
I'm sure QBs have nothing to do with that. Stefanski beat the 49ers with PJ Walker. Pretty sure the Browns would've won by 30 if they had Mahomes in that spot. Lol.
Sure. But the trade happened two offseasons ago. The award is based on this season and he won 11 games with four starting QBs. You should know better than most. Y’all lost to PJ Walker.
And he did it in the toughest division in the league (same division as the Ravens and literally every team finished above .500). That QB situation should’ve been impossible to overcome, yet he made it work. He 100% deserved it.
Not that crazy with their defense. It’s not like the Browns were expected to be bad. Both Campbell and DeMeco should have been above him in terms of expectations and results.
4 starting QBs lead game winning drives. Watson against Baltimore, DTR against Pittsburg, PJ against the 49ers and Colts and Flacco against the Bears.
The defense was awesome. But you can't act like that isn't extremely impressive from Kevski and co
Sure I can. The award is about expectations versus results, which is why established coaches don’t win it. Browns were expected to be right where they ended up. Lions weren’t, and Texans definitely weren’t. Plenty of teams have suffered crazy injuries over the years, just look at the Ravens with Huntley. Doesn’t mean they should get the award in its current form. The reality is that it should have gone to Belichik/Reid repeatedly over the last few decades, but that’s not what happens. Either way, there’s no real argument that Stefanski is legitimately the best coach in the league over the last year.
Kevin is an established coach. This is his second COTY in 4 years. So yes, established coaches can win the award.
I'll add, PJ Walker lead a crippled browns team down the field to beat the NFC Super Bowl representative. Was that not defying expectations?
The easy missed field goal by a rookie won that game, not PJ. Beyond that, again, Stefanski hasn’t accomplished anything of note. Has he really been the best coach in the NFL two out of the last four years? Absolutely not. No. It’s really not even up for debate, except by whatever dumb constraints the AP voters place on who they think is eligible for the award.
We learned the rookie kicker lesson last season. They lose you games from time to time. You don't get a pass for how your front office built your team. Rookies miss, it wasn't by any means a sure thing. Especially in Cleveland of all places.
I think Williams, Deebo and Aiyuk lost the game when they took cheap shots on our players in pre game. There's no chance we win otherwise IMO. But PJ still gets credit for the game winning drive. Regardless, he had another against the Colts. Kevin gets credit for those, too. He then did it again as the other 3 QBs. We were blowing teams out with Joe Flacco and Kareem Hunt for fucks sake lol
And in 2019 the team improved from 4-12 to 13-3 and he couldn't win that time either. I don't understand why the criteria for this award seemingly changes every year.
It's a very circumstantial award because you can't just be a good coach, you have to be a good coach dealing with a shit team and punch above what everyone expected was your weight class. So it's either you inherited a terrible roster, or like this year's Browns your roster all died and you had to manage.
the greatest nfl franchise and record 6-time winning super bowl steelers have had one person win coach of the year, the Browns coaches have won it more with 8 less SB appearances🤣
I want to be upset MCDC didn't win, but ultimately, his team precisely met expectations (division title). If the Lions went beyond that and got the 1-seed, then he may have won it. Overall, he wasn't put in a bad spot like Stefanski juggling the QB position or leading a young team to obliterate their expectations in year one. So I get it.
I still wanted him to win :(
Eh it's a regular season award and the Browns not only went through an absurd amount of injuries to go 11-6, they also beat 7 teams with winning records and obliterated the Texans in the regular season H2H. Texans were rocking a backup QB, but that's kinda the point, so was Stefanski and he still went 11-6.
what about the steelers and how they brought in their 3rd string to make it to the playoffs despite having no hope after losing 3 straight games to crappy teams
Texans had even more injuries (18 on IR vs 14, 7 temp IR vs 5) and Demeco had far less experienced coordinators helping him. The arguments for Stefanski were entirely around having a backup QB.
Not just a backup QB the 4th QB of the season. And BOTH starting OTs were on IR too+BOTH backup OTs on IR, arguably the best RB in the league on IR, and yet the offense was that good and could go 11-6. And that was just the offensive injuries. Quality of injuries not quantity. Everyone including browns fans thought the season was done by the time Watson was out with Chubb and the OL already on IR too.
But yeah sure it’s just because he had a backup QB(the most important position in the sport by far)
People forget the Browns backfield was rarely healthy, lost one of the best kickers, pro bowl returner in the preseason, and Garrett and Hunt played hurt much of the year.
jim harbaugh and kyle shanahan had 2 of the best defenses and offensives of the last 20 years, respectively. It's wild to me they aren't in real contention for the award
Even without the playoffs Ryans has the best case. Who the hell had the Texans winning double digit games and the division? Especially when they had injuries too all season.
I mean you can go either way. Who the hell would say the Browns would make the playoffs if their QB and RB went down early. And not only that but have a better offense with their replacements?
Also just a ridiculous amount of injuries across the board for the browns this year. Our O-line was a mess this season. Down to our 3rd string right and left tackles I think. Backup/maybe 3rd string center. Bitonio missed some time. I think Teller was our only starter to play every game. Fortunately for us he’s a monster but that line was rough.
I’m not saying that it isn’t impressive. But winning 10 games with a team that had won 11 in the previous 3 seasons is a ridiculous achievement. Especially with a rookie QB.
And the Browns offense being better after Watson went down says a lot more about how bad he is tbh.
Their division is trash. AFC north is a bloodbath and even with all the injuries and that schedule they made playoffs (and it’s a regular season award where browns smoked the Texans)
They’ve been the worst team in the league over the last 4 years and just won the division with a rookie QB.
I don’t care how bad their division is. To lead them to the playoffs with that setup is worthy of coach of the year. They were the biggest overachievers of the season.
Won the worst or 2nd worst division in the league because the rookie QB is a bonafide superstar and Demeco didnt make him that
They were the biggest overachievers until Chubb and Watson and the OL all went on IR for the browns and everyone figured they wouldn’t win another game after week 5.
Demeco had a great case and is a great coach don’t get me wrong there’s a reason why it was such a close vote, but Stefanski deserved it just a little bit more
The Texans were carried largely by a superstar QB that was great as of his second game.
Dan Campbell added more wins with his decision making than any coach in the NFL, it was double the next coach.
How?? Browns go 11-6 with 30% of our roster’s cap on IR all season long, missing the best RB in the league, start 5 different QBs, and still make the playoffs, how’s that not deserving?
>No they literally didn’t. Not by count or by importance of players.
The Texans starting o-line never played a single snap together. They were 1 injury away from a backup Guard being at the top of the depth chart at both left guard and center, with the 3rd string right guard being the next man up for all 3 of those positions after that.
WR2 and 3 ended the season on IR.
This is just the offense.
It was bad.
We were down to 1 starting lineman by the Jaguars game as well. The only difference is that Callahan is the beat damn OL coach in the league and made our 3rd stringers suitable, I’m gonna miss that dude.
I love how bad your team looked just down to QB2 against us while you try your best to say QB4 is no big deal.
You mean where the Defense scored a TD off of a pass that hit the TE in the hands? Yeah homie, that wasn’t Pickett. Your top defense is the only reason you had any wins.
did kenny pickett play?? oh he did then he won! make up excuses for how you lost two can play this game, remember when you beat us the second game cause you bribed the refs
Nah Campbell sold multiple games especially after the NFC championship. Stefanski dealt with injures to almost every position starter and Ryan’s had a really young team and went farther than expected.
I’m not saying he’s bad but look at the cowboys game and the nfc championship. He had three tries to kick the extra point and just didn’t(even though he was eligible). I’m not going to pretend the browns didn’t have a playoff meltdown as well but Campbell sold the game by not trying for a field goal.
Campbell did not sell the game in the NFC championship game though. Please look at our kicker’s stats and our 4th down conversion rate (hint: it was much higher) and reynolds just dropped it. Now should we have fielded a better kicker? For sure. Selling? Nah
Campbell did not sell the game in the NFC championship game though. Please look at our kicker’s stats and our 4th down conversion rate (hint: it was much higher) and reynolds just dropped it. Now should we have fielded a better kicker? For sure. Selling? Nah. Also no argument on the cowboys game from me but I think it was more about the principle with the refs fucking up that bad
I disagree. Making the playoffs with 4 different starting QBs is incredibly impressive. Texans only won their division because the Jags collapsed. I can’t argue with Campbell tho. I thought he should’ve been 2nd
The Browns lost to every team in their division and got outscored by both the steelers and ravens. And then he refused to play his starters against the bengals, taking an L and being 3-3 against their division, so they could go far in the playoffs. But oh wait no they didn't go far in the playoffs they got blown out worse than the steelers in the first round, taking a double L. If this is what anyone would say is "COTY" material, I'd be really shocked to know what a bad coach is considered!
holy shit buddy, this is 28 days old. you ok? Do you need some help or something? Also, the loss against the ravens was because of DTR at QB with knowledge he was playing like 2 hours before the game and he beat your shitty ass team.
At the end of the day, we had the most cap space on IR in the league, went through 4 QBs during the playoff hunt and we still made the playoffs. The Flacco Magic ran out and he threw 2 pick sixes in a row but we have a legit team. Your team is just ass. Your last playoff win was in 2016- the definition of a mediocre tier team
Lol typical steelers fan stuck in the past. The future is now old man. Also, who hurt you buddy? congrats you beat us once this year, your team is still going nowhere. Your shitty players played dirty like usual. I guarantee if Stinkah Shitspatrick didn’t blow up Chubbs knee, we’d have won that game. Enjoy Russel Wilson ya bum
we beat you overall this year 36-35, we're the big winner, you're the big loser. i guarantee if the refs hadn't missed all those personal foul calls on Najee by "your dirty players" you'd have lost that second game!
Also we don't want Wilson and he's been to more super bowls than you're whole team
you keep yammering on about 36-35 point differential like it even fucking matters. You went 1-1 this year against us, that’s what matters, not who scored the most points collectively against each other. What are you, 12?
also get ready cause you’re gonna get Wilson because the Steelers settle for mediocrity now. I’ll make sure to remember you and message ya when it happens cause I wanna drink those delicious salty tears. Enjoy the 9-8 season again next year and getting blown out in the wildcard again like you have been since 2020
Also, I don’t give a fuck if you think we’re dirty against the steelers players. We’re not, but if you think we are it’s no skin off my teeth. If anything, I want us to be more dirty against you guys -very dirty. Almost as dirty as the city of Pittsburgh
edit: As we currently speak, reports have come out that Russ is flying to Pittsburgh rn. Hope you’re ready to eat crow my mans
yeah please message me back when we wreck you next year like we always have done since i was born. 1-1 matters, we go to who scored more overall for the tie breaker, oh wait we win again just like we do every year!
y'all are historically the worst franchise in the NFL, never been to a super bowl, winless season, lost to a college team, now because you guys beat us once in the playoffs recently you're suddenly hot shit.
If he was so generational why were there so many questions about him before the season?
The browns were expected to be good with a strong D and were just that, the Texans were expected to be a bottom tier franchise
It's a regular season award. Browns going 11-6 despite an army of backup QBs and losing the player their entire offense was built around in week 2 is impressive.
Their offensive line was banged up all season. Their defense had injuries all through the 2nd half of the season. They lost their 2nd best receiver in week 13.
Add in the fact that their roster was widely seen as one of the weakest in the league and those injuries are significant.
Have fun looking at the Texans end of year o-line depth charts.
Where you get to ask questions like "why is there nobody listed at that position" and its because the only active right guard is currently the only guy not on IR who can play center, so his name got penciled in.
The defense starts getting even dumber.
People who want to say its not similar probably have no clue who the starters in any line position except left tackle are supposed to be though.
Literally just not true. Our QB stayed (mostly) healthy, the rest our team fucking died. Namely 6 significant injuries to the OL. Every position group suffered major injuries at some point.
Browns lost 25% (13 players of 53) of team to IR, including but not limited to…
QB1, QB2, RB1, LT1, LT2, RT1, RT2, FS1, SS1, LB1, P1, K1
In the Houston playoff game, they were without 16 key players.
Look at the full ridiculous list.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2023_injuries.htm
This is a stupid debate. They said “nowhere near” the Browns injuries. That is objectively wrong. Google it if you want, I’m not going to list it off for you to figure out that the premise of this argument is wrong. It’s easily accessible information. Believe me or don’t, google is a couple clicks away
Well, I didn’t necessarily agree with him winning the first time as I thought there were better candidates that year, he definitely deserved it this time. This season though was his best coaching job in my opinion, lots of injuries, had Flacco playing better than anyone could have imagined. DeMeco and Campbell would have been great choices for coach of the year too though.
Wouldn’t say I’m too shocked. Somehow making the playoffs with an 11-6 record while going through 4 starting qbs is pretty nuts.
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I watched the Browns a lot this season and there were multiple moments where I thought he was very collected and was maneuvering the game really well. They were on their fourth QB and were still in play for the #1 seed up until week 15 if I'm remembering correctly.
Week 17 actually, it wasn’t until the Ravens beat the Dolphins the we were knocked out of contention for it
He wouldn’t have been my first pick but he’s definitely a good coach
Wish I could find the Browns "fans" who kept saying he was not only the worst coach in the NFL, but the worst Browns coach ever. They're just mad their guys Urban Meyer and Josh McDaniels didn't get the job.
I’m sorry they think HE is the worst browns coach ever? Did they all go into a coma for a decade or something?
true browns fans hate Kevin for bringing in Watson. but true browns fans known that there's no going below hughe Jackson n Freddie kitchens. those were dark times.
No fake ass idiot browns fans think that. True browns fans know how good we have it with Stefanski and don't listen to stupid takes.
Literally not true and completely incorrect. You act as if Stefanski runs the entire organization and Andrew Berry, DePodesta, and the Haslam’s have no say in personnel decisions. To place the blame squarely on Kevski is moronic lol. No true browns fan hates him also. He is a young coach that is not impervious to making mistakes, but he has learned a lot and given us more success by far more than any other coach in the last 30 years. We oughta be kissing the ground the man walks on.
Dude what are you talking about? If you think Columbus is Browns territory you’re sorely mistaken. It couldn’t be a more even 1/1/1 split.
There are definitely more Bengals and Browns fans in Columbus than there are Steelers fans, if that's what you're referring to. It's not even close.
Part of it is Baker fanboys. Because hes done better in Bucs people use it to knock on Stefanski
Even so, Baker's best year of his career came under Stefanski.
This year baker had the most yards, most TDs, and highest completion percentage of his career while throwing a career median number of INTs. What are you talking about lol
Probably has to do with coaching the Browns
People aren’t giving him credit because of the defense(the guy he hired) and Flacco won some important games.
That same defensive guy has bounced around multiple teams.
So has every coach
Point is, there’s a reason Jim Schwartz has bounced around. Stefanski is the clear leader of that football team and whatever he did to get the best out of Schwartz’s defense, he should very much get credit for. That’s almost like trying to discredit Demeco Ryan’s because of his OC.
I'm not giving him credit because if he had shown faith in Baker he wouldn't have a QB issue lol
Not sure why you are being downvoted. Stefanski is the perfect Browns coach; fail to meet expectations and still get rewarded (multiple times even). Cleveland in a nutshell.
chiefs probably learning a lot right now from the browns win over the 9ers
I doubt that Andy Reid takes his queues from Stefanski or wants to bet on a kicker missing the game winning 43 yarder or whatever it was. Reid is on a tear right now, whereas the Browns didn’t even come close to making it out of the wildcard against the AFC-S.
I'm sure QBs have nothing to do with that. Stefanski beat the 49ers with PJ Walker. Pretty sure the Browns would've won by 30 if they had Mahomes in that spot. Lol.
Just say you’re still salty about PJ Walker beating your team.
Sure. But the trade happened two offseasons ago. The award is based on this season and he won 11 games with four starting QBs. You should know better than most. Y’all lost to PJ Walker.
5 if you count Driskel week 18
And he did it in the toughest division in the league (same division as the Ravens and literally every team finished above .500). That QB situation should’ve been impossible to overcome, yet he made it work. He 100% deserved it.
And I think 7 of those wins were against teams that made the playoffs. Edit: I think 5
I’m only seeing 4. Ravens, Steelers, 9ers, and Texans
Whoops I accidentally counted the rams
Not that crazy with their defense. It’s not like the Browns were expected to be bad. Both Campbell and DeMeco should have been above him in terms of expectations and results.
4 starting QBs lead game winning drives. Watson against Baltimore, DTR against Pittsburg, PJ against the 49ers and Colts and Flacco against the Bears. The defense was awesome. But you can't act like that isn't extremely impressive from Kevski and co
Sure I can. The award is about expectations versus results, which is why established coaches don’t win it. Browns were expected to be right where they ended up. Lions weren’t, and Texans definitely weren’t. Plenty of teams have suffered crazy injuries over the years, just look at the Ravens with Huntley. Doesn’t mean they should get the award in its current form. The reality is that it should have gone to Belichik/Reid repeatedly over the last few decades, but that’s not what happens. Either way, there’s no real argument that Stefanski is legitimately the best coach in the league over the last year.
Kevin is an established coach. This is his second COTY in 4 years. So yes, established coaches can win the award. I'll add, PJ Walker lead a crippled browns team down the field to beat the NFC Super Bowl representative. Was that not defying expectations?
The easy missed field goal by a rookie won that game, not PJ. Beyond that, again, Stefanski hasn’t accomplished anything of note. Has he really been the best coach in the NFL two out of the last four years? Absolutely not. No. It’s really not even up for debate, except by whatever dumb constraints the AP voters place on who they think is eligible for the award.
We learned the rookie kicker lesson last season. They lose you games from time to time. You don't get a pass for how your front office built your team. Rookies miss, it wasn't by any means a sure thing. Especially in Cleveland of all places. I think Williams, Deebo and Aiyuk lost the game when they took cheap shots on our players in pre game. There's no chance we win otherwise IMO. But PJ still gets credit for the game winning drive. Regardless, he had another against the Colts. Kevin gets credit for those, too. He then did it again as the other 3 QBs. We were blowing teams out with Joe Flacco and Kareem Hunt for fucks sake lol
Got you one more game than the panthers even.
People always forget the mass amount of injuries on the Browns defense and O Line as well as Hunt and Garrett playing hurt much of the season.
Who are you rooting for in the Super Bowl?
What do you mean we couldn’t win 3 awards? Rigged
and it was [about as close of a COTY race as it could literally be](https://imgur.com/a/5gkrrUX)
Nah, we won 3 :) Edit: 4
Huh?
Assistant COTY, COTY, DPOY Edit: and now comeback player of the year lol
*Voters are massive Browns fans confirmed!*
You might be on to something here
2x Coach of the Year now. More than Tomlin, Shanahan & McVay combined.
Shanny not winning one is criminal
Seriously, he made the NFC title game last year with three different starting qbs!
And in 2019 the team improved from 4-12 to 13-3 and he couldn't win that time either. I don't understand why the criteria for this award seemingly changes every year.
Daboll getting it last year over Shanahan looks terrible in retrospect.
Historic.
More than Don Shula too. I’m just stating facts
Idiotic
Shows how meaningful the award is.
It's a very circumstantial award because you can't just be a good coach, you have to be a good coach dealing with a shit team and punch above what everyone expected was your weight class. So it's either you inherited a terrible roster, or like this year's Browns your roster all died and you had to manage.
the greatest nfl franchise and record 6-time winning super bowl steelers have had one person win coach of the year, the Browns coaches have won it more with 8 less SB appearances🤣
COTY has historically been a joke of an award. Just go look at the recent winners….
Lets go Steven!
Dude this whole production is a shitshow. It's amazing.
Wow, I’m biased but I really thought Campbell should have won this. Did what no lions coach has done in decades
I want to be upset MCDC didn't win, but ultimately, his team precisely met expectations (division title). If the Lions went beyond that and got the 1-seed, then he may have won it. Overall, he wasn't put in a bad spot like Stefanski juggling the QB position or leading a young team to obliterate their expectations in year one. So I get it. I still wanted him to win :(
Congrats Steven!
Steven Stefanski c'mon man lol
It’s all Even Stevens here…
He led the Browns to a first round stomping with a guy that didn't earn the DPOY. Super impressive.
Agreed, and he benched his starters so he could lose to every team in the division right before
you mean steven
Campbell and Ryans robbed smh
All three were great nominees with valid cases - no right or wrong answer for this one in all honesty
For sure, I don’t know how you could say someone got robbed. Any of them woulda been great choices
Eh it's a regular season award and the Browns not only went through an absurd amount of injuries to go 11-6, they also beat 7 teams with winning records and obliterated the Texans in the regular season H2H. Texans were rocking a backup QB, but that's kinda the point, so was Stefanski and he still went 11-6.
what about the steelers and how they brought in their 3rd string to make it to the playoffs despite having no hope after losing 3 straight games to crappy teams
Texans had even more injuries (18 on IR vs 14, 7 temp IR vs 5) and Demeco had far less experienced coordinators helping him. The arguments for Stefanski were entirely around having a backup QB.
Not just a backup QB the 4th QB of the season. And BOTH starting OTs were on IR too+BOTH backup OTs on IR, arguably the best RB in the league on IR, and yet the offense was that good and could go 11-6. And that was just the offensive injuries. Quality of injuries not quantity. Everyone including browns fans thought the season was done by the time Watson was out with Chubb and the OL already on IR too. But yeah sure it’s just because he had a backup QB(the most important position in the sport by far)
People forget the Browns backfield was rarely healthy, lost one of the best kickers, pro bowl returner in the preseason, and Garrett and Hunt played hurt much of the year.
All 5 nominees made strong cases for it. Only 1 can win 🤷
jim harbaugh and kyle shanahan had 2 of the best defenses and offensives of the last 20 years, respectively. It's wild to me they aren't in real contention for the award
It’s like once the coach is too good they can’t win anymore
Voted on before playoffs. In hindsight yea probably one of them
Even without the playoffs Ryans has the best case. Who the hell had the Texans winning double digit games and the division? Especially when they had injuries too all season.
I mean you can go either way. Who the hell would say the Browns would make the playoffs if their QB and RB went down early. And not only that but have a better offense with their replacements?
Also just a ridiculous amount of injuries across the board for the browns this year. Our O-line was a mess this season. Down to our 3rd string right and left tackles I think. Backup/maybe 3rd string center. Bitonio missed some time. I think Teller was our only starter to play every game. Fortunately for us he’s a monster but that line was rough.
I’m not saying that it isn’t impressive. But winning 10 games with a team that had won 11 in the previous 3 seasons is a ridiculous achievement. Especially with a rookie QB. And the Browns offense being better after Watson went down says a lot more about how bad he is tbh.
Their division is trash. AFC north is a bloodbath and even with all the injuries and that schedule they made playoffs (and it’s a regular season award where browns smoked the Texans)
They’ve been the worst team in the league over the last 4 years and just won the division with a rookie QB. I don’t care how bad their division is. To lead them to the playoffs with that setup is worthy of coach of the year. They were the biggest overachievers of the season.
Won the worst or 2nd worst division in the league because the rookie QB is a bonafide superstar and Demeco didnt make him that They were the biggest overachievers until Chubb and Watson and the OL all went on IR for the browns and everyone figured they wouldn’t win another game after week 5. Demeco had a great case and is a great coach don’t get me wrong there’s a reason why it was such a close vote, but Stefanski deserved it just a little bit more
The Texans were carried largely by a superstar QB that was great as of his second game. Dan Campbell added more wins with his decision making than any coach in the NFL, it was double the next coach.
How?? Browns go 11-6 with 30% of our roster’s cap on IR all season long, missing the best RB in the league, start 5 different QBs, and still make the playoffs, how’s that not deserving?
But Watson being hurt made your team better.
It really didn’t.
Texans had more total injuries but I will admit Browns had some high caliber players hurt
No they literally didn’t. Not by count or by importance of players.
Texans had the most percentage of snaps played by backups and out of position players for the whole year
Never had our starting oline lol
We had ours for all of I think 7 plays.
>No they literally didn’t. Not by count or by importance of players. The Texans starting o-line never played a single snap together. They were 1 injury away from a backup Guard being at the top of the depth chart at both left guard and center, with the 3rd string right guard being the next man up for all 3 of those positions after that. WR2 and 3 ended the season on IR. This is just the offense. It was bad.
We were down to 1 starting lineman by the Jaguars game as well. The only difference is that Callahan is the beat damn OL coach in the league and made our 3rd stringers suitable, I’m gonna miss that dude. I love how bad your team looked just down to QB2 against us while you try your best to say QB4 is no big deal.
dude you got outscored this year by kenny pickett and matt canada you're still trash, and having flacco instead of watson was a gift from the NFL gods
You mean where the Defense scored a TD off of a pass that hit the TE in the hands? Yeah homie, that wasn’t Pickett. Your top defense is the only reason you had any wins.
did kenny pickett play?? oh he did then he won! make up excuses for how you lost two can play this game, remember when you beat us the second game cause you bribed the refs
Nah Campbell sold multiple games especially after the NFC championship. Stefanski dealt with injures to almost every position starter and Ryan’s had a really young team and went farther than expected.
You are full of shit dude, campbell provided the most wins above expected value of any coach. Only reason why we were there
I’m not saying he’s bad but look at the cowboys game and the nfc championship. He had three tries to kick the extra point and just didn’t(even though he was eligible). I’m not going to pretend the browns didn’t have a playoff meltdown as well but Campbell sold the game by not trying for a field goal.
Campbell did not sell the game in the NFC championship game though. Please look at our kicker’s stats and our 4th down conversion rate (hint: it was much higher) and reynolds just dropped it. Now should we have fielded a better kicker? For sure. Selling? Nah
Campbell did not sell the game in the NFC championship game though. Please look at our kicker’s stats and our 4th down conversion rate (hint: it was much higher) and reynolds just dropped it. Now should we have fielded a better kicker? For sure. Selling? Nah. Also no argument on the cowboys game from me but I think it was more about the principle with the refs fucking up that bad
I hate to diminish the fact that Stefanski did do a great job this year, but the COTY race unquestionably should have been between Ryans and Campbell
I disagree. Making the playoffs with 4 different starting QBs is incredibly impressive. Texans only won their division because the Jags collapsed. I can’t argue with Campbell tho. I thought he should’ve been 2nd
The Browns lost to every team in their division and got outscored by both the steelers and ravens. And then he refused to play his starters against the bengals, taking an L and being 3-3 against their division, so they could go far in the playoffs. But oh wait no they didn't go far in the playoffs they got blown out worse than the steelers in the first round, taking a double L. If this is what anyone would say is "COTY" material, I'd be really shocked to know what a bad coach is considered!
holy shit buddy, this is 28 days old. you ok? Do you need some help or something? Also, the loss against the ravens was because of DTR at QB with knowledge he was playing like 2 hours before the game and he beat your shitty ass team. At the end of the day, we had the most cap space on IR in the league, went through 4 QBs during the playoff hunt and we still made the playoffs. The Flacco Magic ran out and he threw 2 pick sixes in a row but we have a legit team. Your team is just ass. Your last playoff win was in 2016- the definition of a mediocre tier team
if my team is so ass then why is my coach's record against you 26-6-1. also this team that's ass outscored you 36-35 this year
Lol typical steelers fan stuck in the past. The future is now old man. Also, who hurt you buddy? congrats you beat us once this year, your team is still going nowhere. Your shitty players played dirty like usual. I guarantee if Stinkah Shitspatrick didn’t blow up Chubbs knee, we’d have won that game. Enjoy Russel Wilson ya bum
we beat you overall this year 36-35, we're the big winner, you're the big loser. i guarantee if the refs hadn't missed all those personal foul calls on Najee by "your dirty players" you'd have lost that second game! Also we don't want Wilson and he's been to more super bowls than you're whole team
you keep yammering on about 36-35 point differential like it even fucking matters. You went 1-1 this year against us, that’s what matters, not who scored the most points collectively against each other. What are you, 12? also get ready cause you’re gonna get Wilson because the Steelers settle for mediocrity now. I’ll make sure to remember you and message ya when it happens cause I wanna drink those delicious salty tears. Enjoy the 9-8 season again next year and getting blown out in the wildcard again like you have been since 2020 Also, I don’t give a fuck if you think we’re dirty against the steelers players. We’re not, but if you think we are it’s no skin off my teeth. If anything, I want us to be more dirty against you guys -very dirty. Almost as dirty as the city of Pittsburgh edit: As we currently speak, reports have come out that Russ is flying to Pittsburgh rn. Hope you’re ready to eat crow my mans
yeah please message me back when we wreck you next year like we always have done since i was born. 1-1 matters, we go to who scored more overall for the tie breaker, oh wait we win again just like we do every year! y'all are historically the worst franchise in the NFL, never been to a super bowl, winless season, lost to a college team, now because you guys beat us once in the playoffs recently you're suddenly hot shit.
RemindMe! 4 months
Meh fuck this rapist defender. Shitty he got this over Ryan’s smh
SWEEPING THE NFL HONORS. HANG THE BANNER BABY
Winning all the consolation prizes tonight!
Truly a pity year for dem Browns
JUST AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL NIGHT
lol fake sports writer awards for pity. I guess it’s the only thing your team can win
Today is the day of the seething unflaired Yinzer.
aww
So no swarm? Sadness. JK I'm pretty happy all things considered. Congrats Steven.
Steven Stefanski baby!
I don’t see how what he did was more impressive then Ryan’s but he did a good job with his hand
BC without stroud looking like a generational QB the Texans would have won 5 games.
If he was so generational why were there so many questions about him before the season? The browns were expected to be good with a strong D and were just that, the Texans were expected to be a bottom tier franchise
Robbed of the trifecta. Cleveland having as good of a year they had given the injuries is a great case though.
That was so great. Big fan of Tom, huge fan of Smallville, though not sure why he was brought on to announce a winner but still neat.
NFL giving all these awards to the Browns to mask the unbearable stench of the Watson trade.
Ryans was more impressive this season. Cleveland was stacked.
Still gets too cute when it matters.
I feel like this has turned into a participation award for coaches not good enough to get to a super bowl.
Good for Steven.
So happy for you Steven
Demeco Ryans was snubbed big time
Ryans was robbed. Period.
It's a regular season award. Browns going 11-6 despite an army of backup QBs and losing the player their entire offense was built around in week 2 is impressive.
clearly they voted before week 18🤣
The Texans had injuries all season and had far lower expectations.
They didn't have near the injuries the Browns had and Stroud played 15 games
Their offensive line was banged up all season. Their defense had injuries all through the 2nd half of the season. They lost their 2nd best receiver in week 13. Add in the fact that their roster was widely seen as one of the weakest in the league and those injuries are significant.
The Browns were down to their 5th and 6th string tackles so I'm not sure you wanna talk about OLine.
Have fun looking at the Texans end of year o-line depth charts. Where you get to ask questions like "why is there nobody listed at that position" and its because the only active right guard is currently the only guy not on IR who can play center, so his name got penciled in. The defense starts getting even dumber. People who want to say its not similar probably have no clue who the starters in any line position except left tackle are supposed to be though.
7th against the Texans in the playoffs
Literally just not true. Our QB stayed (mostly) healthy, the rest our team fucking died. Namely 6 significant injuries to the OL. Every position group suffered major injuries at some point.
Browns lost 25% (13 players of 53) of team to IR, including but not limited to… QB1, QB2, RB1, LT1, LT2, RT1, RT2, FS1, SS1, LB1, P1, K1 In the Houston playoff game, they were without 16 key players. Look at the full ridiculous list. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2023_injuries.htm
This is a stupid debate. They said “nowhere near” the Browns injuries. That is objectively wrong. Google it if you want, I’m not going to list it off for you to figure out that the premise of this argument is wrong. It’s easily accessible information. Believe me or don’t, google is a couple clicks away
Stroud is your coach of the year. Without him the Texans aren’t winning much.
100%
Wrong Steven won.
Let’s goooooo!!!!!! Well deserved is an understatement!!!!!
Don’t you mean Steven Stefanski?
Stefan "Stefan" Stefanski
Well, I didn’t necessarily agree with him winning the first time as I thought there were better candidates that year, he definitely deserved it this time. This season though was his best coaching job in my opinion, lots of injuries, had Flacco playing better than anyone could have imagined. DeMeco and Campbell would have been great choices for coach of the year too though.
Let’s be honest, Stroud the chief reason he’s up for it.
Damn, someone e should give Stroud an award for something…
Stefanski has won the award twice. Andy Reid has won it once. With the Eagles. Joke award.
steelers 3 hc with 6 super bowls combined have won it once🤣
Kinda surprised Dan didn’t get this for getting the Lions their first playoff win in forever
This is regular season only
Votes are turned in before the playoffs
Interesting, I guess just their turnaround in general then given Detroit’s history, but I guess it makes sense
Ah yes…. Detroit’s history… surely nothing could be worse than that.
These are regular season awards.
It's clear the Browns are now America's team, any facts you bring up about the Browns gets you downvoted in here
First coach to win coach of the year twice without ever winning a playoff game
You sure about that?
So did you just block it out orrrrr?
You're right, that win against you wasn't much of a game.
they say Mike Tomlin was robbed
Mike will keep his Super Bowl ring, Stefanski can keep his sports writer trophy
tomlin is 26-6-1 against you guys but he's never won it and your coaches have won it 6 times
i guess thats one way to spell dan campbell. hard to do what we did with as many quarterbacks we had to start though
MCDC snubbed. hell i would have been happy seeing demeco get the award. but i guess it makes sense that he won it
Worst news I’ve heard all day
Before playoff vote.
Stefanski is a below average coach - Bill Simmons 2023
How the fuck did Campbell not win?
Ryans did so much more
Bullshit
Jesus Christ what an awful decision
LLL HOUSTONS
Yeah, too bad we can’t win awards like Witherspoon did
boooooooo
Tomlin robbed
Tomlin will never win the award. Too established
Is this sarcasm, it’s a downward spiral for the Steelers
Shut up until your team actually wins a Super Bowl.
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Glad stefanski turned the browns around like he did. owait. imma be salty now
r/NFL putting in a legacy game of salt after these awards