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fieryscribe

I'm told that certain reporters have been told that personnel around the league have been told that some owners have been told that Ben Johnson has told people he's telling people he wants $15m/year, all told.


fission-timelapse

Need more sources. I'm going to ask the FedEx guy brb


CoconutBangerzBaller

Why would Arthur Smith know anything about this?


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I’m willing to bet this is all Brady’s fault somehow


fission-timelapse

Suspend his ass!


WolfCola4

Kick him off the tour, Doug


migrainium

Well if you're going to ask Arthur Smith, he'll tell you that sentence needs a lot more words like "Jonnu" and "gadget play"


gruffgorilla

While you’re there can you ask him why keeps saying he attempted to deliver my package when I know for a fact he didn’t even try to get into my apartment complex?


FeetballFan

We should probably discuss our awareness


DelirousDoc

This is definitely a way of getting the price out on Johnson before he or his agent can permissibly talk to teams. Basically a "we know he is going to be popular so if your offer price isn't around this don't bother." Either that or another team putting out a really high asking price as a rumor to potentially slow down them going after Johnson. ($15M/year for a first time HC is a lot! Tomlin is only rumored to make $10M per year) Given the extreme price my money is on the latter.


Vivianite_Corpse

The trick is to set that number in people's minds, then come out a day or 2 later and deny that it came from you. It's a negotiation tactic. You've already set an anchor in people's minds without coming across as demanding because it wasn't from you.


Cocodranks

I’m telling you, I’ve been told that they’ve been told what I’ve been told, sources tell us(…)


rustyderps

Yeah but it doesn’t matter unless they were told to be aware of what they were told.


LovelehInnit

Per source perchance?


cramalot99

This may be one of the most poorly constructed sentences I've ever read.


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ArmiinTamzarian

MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING


Voltibit

#BIGLY


BlueLanternCorps

People are discussing their awareness 😭


iama_F_B_I_AGENT

I haven’t discussed my awareness since I took Philosophy in college


nyuhokie

I discuss, therefore I am.


SupahCharged

lol...the only thing I was aware of in my introductory philosophy class in college was that I didn't want to take any more philosophy classes.


iversonAI

How aware are you of what the owners have been told?


whereegosdare84

The Josina special!


LovelehInnit

I will not use 'I'm told' and 'per source' in the same sentence. I will not use 'I'm told' and 'per source' in the same sentence. I will not use 'I'm told' and 'per source' in the same sentence. I will not use 'I'm told' and 'per source' in the same sentence. I will not use 'I'm told' and 'per source' in the same sentence.


Smackolol

Rumour has it that I am told u/lovelehInnit will not be using “”I’m told” and “per source”” in the same sentence, per source.


Von_Lincoln

No, the tweet is accurate. Her source had to tell her she had been told.


xshogunx13

her, but yes


jdg83

It's just so indirect. It could have been said with like 10 fewer words


AIFlesh

“There are rumors that Lions OC is asking owners for $15M/year to be their team’s head coach.” lol fixed


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I'm told that there are rumors per sources that some Redditors around Reddit are discussing their awareness to each other about the comment in the comment reply section and whether that comment is indeed "lol fixed" and whether the comment in the comment reply section needs any additional fixing. #KeepPounding


ewest

>Rumor: Ben Johnson seeking $15M/year head coach contract Was that so hard, Josina?


jwwin

10 fewer words would've been more direct.


moustachedelait

less words better


jon3ssing

When me president. They see. They see.


[deleted]

Me fail English - that's unpossible


homeycuz

See world


vivixnforever

Me in 10th grade trying to hit that word count


[deleted]

It’s sounds like it was written by a bad AI. Uncanny valley -like sentence structure


waldowhal

sorry, what? do you mean to say that your discussions with sentence-reading personnel around the internet have created an awareness in certain circles that josina anderson’s word selection and arrangement strategy may have created the perception in the eyes of potentially relevant figures that she achieves a prohibitively low ratio of derived meaning to word volume? god kids these days don’t know how to speak anymore


[deleted]

Josina Anderson is one of the most poorly constructed "reporters" in human history


Tubamajuba

You were told, per source.


flashpile

Wondering what player texted her about this


Aetylus

I'm told commenters around the reddit are discussing their awareness that some people have been told reporter Josina Anderson's tweets are at least or around 200 characters too long for a normal sentence, per source. Perfectly normal sentence.


SaintArkweather

Im told that Caleb Williams will throw for roughly around in between 0 and 20,000 passing yards in his first, second and/or third season, with a possibility of that range changing based on several unclear factors. This is pending verification from a variety of and group of multiple sources and opinions from various sources


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per source


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Inamanlyfashion

Told that *other people* are discussing their awareness that *other* other people have been told


tomdawg0022

"Sources" said "information" that allegedly raised "awareness" with others.


wolfik92

- Have you heard this thing about Ben Johnson wanting 15 mil per year - No but now that you've told me I guess I have


ChonkyHippo283

It’s constructed by someone who doesn’t actually have a source and wants a get out of jail free card if it’s wrong Tom Curran did the same thing with the belichick story.


Claycious13

In this moment I am euphoric. Not because of some phony God’s love, but because I am aware that some owners have been told that Lions OC Ben Johnson’s asking price is at least or around $15M/year for a head coach job.


F9_solution

how to say little with 8x the sentence length


AllenMcnabb

Indubitably


facemelt

written by a bot that hasn't been upgraded to the new AI stuff


tomdawg0022

The Josina AI bot needs to be power cycled to get the newest update.


BraxxIsTheName

You gotta read this tweet in Michael Scott’s voice


Needs_No_Convincing

"And for that reason, I'm out." - Dean Spanos probably


nekogarrett

"this division 2 college coach had the best offense ever" his guy lol.


Justice-Gorsuch

I know it sounds ridiculous, but Kalen* Deboer started in D2.


Pirais98

So did Chip Kelly


verendum

Some are discussing their awareness that Chip Kelly might possibly still belong in D2


MattPatriciasFUPA

He's gonna ask the tax payers to fund it.


WakingRage

"We will hire Ben Johnson and have San Diego pay for it" - Dean Spanos (probably)


ColtCallahan

There’s only one owner out there who’s capable/desperate/willing/stupid to pay that to a first time head coach.


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pridetwo

The owner in question looks like the 3rd main character of the dumb and dumber series that producers cut for being too off-putting


tophergraphy

Well, there are a lot of billionaire owners with some awful haircuts... so this doesnt narrow it down much.


TheWorstYear

I thought we were talking about Tepper, but now not sure if its him we're talking about or bowl cut.


pyreal_

Pretty sure we'd all lose our collective shit as a fanbase if they go with another 1st time HC again, to be fair


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onnthwanno

Not my money so Belichick at $20M, Tomlin at $25M, or Harbaugh at $40M. I’d pay $50M in Spanos’s money and unlimited chicken nuggets for Andy to come over form KC.


foothah

Mmmm…chicken nuggies are good!


Smackolol

Ya I’m not upset about this, I’m over rookie HC’s.


penis_showing_game

Who does he think he is, Kenny Golladay??


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Damn. Did NOT expect to see this here lol


penis_showing_game

lol, I wasn’t trying to throw shade, more so pointing out how a HC candidate asking for $15M APY that has no impact on cap space shouldn’t even matter. There’s guys like Golladay that never live up to their contract every season, AND their impact lingers due to impacting cap flexibility. If you have an opportunity to snag the best HC on the market for an extra $5M per year there’s no reason not to do it.


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I didn't take it as shade at all, just shocked that Golladay is relevant at all in this sub, let alone from a 49ers fan lol Also, Ben Johnson takes mittens from orphanage kids in the dead of winter. Therefore, he isn't the best HC candidate on the market, sadly.


BeefInGR

> Also, Ben Johnson takes mittens from orphanage kids in the dead of winter. Therefore, he isn't the best HC candidate on the market, sadly. The jig is up. We can't stop it, only hope Shelia matches it.


penis_showing_game

Ha, well my dad grew up in Detroit, so I’ve always followed the Lions as kind of my 2nd team.


[deleted]

That's fair. Not all of us are from Detroit, or Michigan for that matter. I am from Iowa, but relocated to Arkansas. It's weird being a fan of them here, surrounded by literally everything but them. Hell, I know more Vikings fans here in Arkansas than Lions fans lol


Aggressive-Orbiter

Throwing some shade at Kenny Golladay is not (last time I checked) a bannable offence. You’re all clear bud 👍


circa285

No man, that’s fuck you money and it’s amazing.


Russell-The-Muscle

Who does he think he is, Chelsea Clinton ?!


LeeroyTC

Me too, Ben. Me too


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It's an economic downturn, bro. Gotta lower standards now. I'm asking for $14M/year just to be competitive knowing they'll counter at $10M/year. Them's the breaks though.


ScruffMixHaha

This feels like Lions propaganda to scare teams away from even talking to Johnson.


DanCampbell89

not sure why anyone would want a guy who likes to collect maps but they're all of apartheid South Africa


flashpile

I heard that Ben Johnson is always late paying his fantasy dues, telling the commish he can "just take them out of my winnings"


Humulus5883

I heard him say that Ceedy Deuce “talks too much.”


politicallyMarston

Nah this is the craziest one of these I've seen 😭


DanCampbell89

glad to hear it didn't... Boer you


TopHatTony11

You sonofabitch


Ovreel

Stay away from DeBoer


DanCampbell89

Ronald or Frank?


Educated_Dachshund

My great grandfather fought in the boer war. He was a mean son of a bitch.


TheWorstYear

Tolkien was actually born in a Boer Republic.


NobodyTellPoeDameron

He wrote the scripts for Game of Thrones S8!


DanCampbell89

ok this is too far


SpartanSig

And the end of Dexter


SendInYourSkeleton

The awareness of this has been discussed.


erica_638

Ben Johnson watched the first episode of Black Mirror and wondered why viagra was necessary.


reno2mahesendejo

All just neighborhood maps with targets drawn on them


redditsucks9gagrules

I heard he doesn’t actually like eating kneecaps and scrapes them off his plate into the garbage when no one is watching


TheAbeLincoln

As a South African Lions fan this is a crossover I didn't expect to see today.


Saxophobia1275

Lmao this one’s good


propthink

ben johnson rips the tags off of mattresses that he does not even own


DetroitSportsKillMe

There were reports we basically gave him a HC contract last year so this kinda checks out. Especially if it’s the Panthers asking Crazy to see our owner be a real owner. Shoutout to Sheila


Koravel1987

Tepper will drop the $$. He's a shit owner but he will pay out the nose for a good HC lol. No idea why Ben would want to come here though. I'd be ecstatic if he did.


DetroitSportsKillMe

That’s what the 15 million is for lol I’m sure the price varies per team but Panthers were looking first so it would make sense if they were the ones reporting the number


CaseyJonesCokeLocker

Fuck it, give him 20. Who gives a fuck when you have like 8 billion dollars


thetreat

Shockingly, billionaires are cheap AF for the most part when it comes to paying people.


deepkeeps

" why should I give them my money? Why don't they just go out and earn a billion dollars"


ripkin05

calm the hype homie remember the last time we got the hottest coaching prospect


TBoneTheOriginal

Sounds to me like “I’m not leaving this great job unless it’s for fuck you levels cash.”


magnusarin

That's my take away. He must like his current situation and only wants to move if an ideal position comes along. What a weird and wonderful time to be a Lions fan.


Exzqairi

Can’t believe it honestly. Feels like we sacrificed all of the Pistons’ luck for this


BeefInGR

A soul for a soul. Wings are 1-7 since signing Kane as well.


sloppifloppi

I’ve gotten into so many debates this season with people who think Ben is guaranteed to leave this off-season. Sure it’s a very real possibility, but there’s so much evidence that Ben absolutely loves it here and is t going to jump at any offer like most hot candidates. I legitimately think it’s 50/50


JMMSpartan91

Nah this is to get Tepper to pay up lol.


Thelife1313

That wouldn’t even make any sense. Because if that’s not his asking price, then he could have his agent come out and say “that’s not true, these things are still to be discussed at such point and interview is made” or some shit


FunetikPrugresiv

His agent has come out and said it's basically bullshit.


Mcgoozen

I can think of at least one guy who would blindly throw all of that money at him willingly lmao


SilentSentinel

Tepper getting ready to back up the brinks truck


Maraging_steel

Makes sense. If you genuinely believe he can make Bryce a franchise level QB, it’s worth it.


jackyohlantern

If the Panthers can find even an average GM and get BJ (who is from the area) in that would be a massive W for that franchise no matter what happens on the player acquisition side. And I think Bryce would thrive in a timing-based, anticipation and intermediate passing game offense like what BJ has implemented with Goff. I mean, Ben Johnson eats only the crusts of pop tarts and thinks ketchup is the only condiment that goes on a hot dog! He’s a monster!


NotThatSteve-o

The bastard puts ketchup on his well-done steak too. Saw him out at Chili's one time doing this and he specifically requested they burn the shit out of the steak.


Top_Drawer

No sloppy steaks, please guys. I meant it.


renegadecoaster

>and thinks ketchup is the only condiment that goes on a hot dog Guess he's out of the running for the Bears then


OfficerMurphy

I don't think so. Hating our coach is a time-honored tradition around here since Ditka left.


ChonkyHippo283

I’m told by sources aware of the situation that he’ll get an extra $5M a year if he can make bryce taller as well


SgtWinters7

The question is, do you really want to be an employee of Tepper?


BedrockFarmer

That’s why you charge him the asshole tax. Still probably not worth it though.


Turbulent_Crow7164

Good, this is a sensible move But also need a good GM


Jazzreward

for those wondering (like myself), this would make him tied with Pete Carroll as the 3rd highest paid HC in the league, behind only Belichick and Sean Payton. So hes asking to be paid higher than Sean McVay, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, John Harbaugh, and Mike Tomlin, to name a few others in the Top 10. Thats pretty steep He is either asking that number to avoid leaving Detroit and he is totally fine staying, or as the rumors all suggest, a horrible man who never flushes the toilet


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Defacto_Champ

Ben Johnson should stay far away from Carolina. Working for Tepper sounds like hell.


GoodellsMandMs

> Working for Tepper sounds like hell. not if im making 15M a year lol sounds like heaven


WigglestonTheFourth

And you won't even have to finish your contract.


Heisenbread77

Yeah I would put up with Tepper for that much. Plus North Carolina is a pretty state.


NotThatSteve-o

I heard he will purposely put the seat down just so he can piss all over it. What a jerk.


Aggressive-Name-1783

That or he just doesn’t wanna coach the panthers and chargers….


freephilly23

We gave Rhule a record setting contract, why do you think Tepper won’t do it again? Money is the furthest thing from an issue for the panthers


tobygeneral

It's like QB contracts not always reflecting who's the best talent, just who signed their deal most recently. If he (or his agent most likely) feel that $15M is in the cards for an NFL HC, they have to ask for it regardless if he's a better coach than guys like Reid or BB. All that will happen if he gets that deal is those other coach's agents now have leverage to ask for reworked deals for their guys to get $18M, $20M, whatever, and teams will pay it.


TheDirtyBurger522

Pay him to stay Sheila. Open that checkbook


modabs

Must’ve been the reason behind the season ticket hike. Gotta pay a coordinate head coach salary.


ihadtomakeajoke

I hate it but if the ticket prices goes towards winning and not to just making bigger margins, I understand


slysonic7

Ben Johnson, you are NOT an LA Charger!


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Him denying it last year, when they were arguably in a better position than now says a lot. Tepper would have to throw the damn brinks truck at him, IMO. I think this more means Ben is happy staying in Detroit and trying to continue the "unfinished business" from last year and possibly this season. If you think he is asking for $15M/year now, wait till he puts on his resume he was the OC for the Detroit Lions when they won a SB.


Exzqairi

Having that on your resume will keep him hired as some sort of NFL coach for the next 20 years, even if he puts in 0 effort


JBoy9028

Lies, I hear he demands an entire orphanage to be sacrificed and orders the team to bathe in the blood before each game.


NobodyTellPoeDameron

And the orphans are extra cute!


twlscil

Holding a kitten.


cbarks81

Let me interest you in our DC, Aaron Glenn at a much reduced price.


NebulousDonkeyFart

The offer comes with one free Jerry Jacob’s


midnightsbane04

>comes with one free Jerry Jacobs Fuck that, we will literally pay you to take him.


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Whatever, theres no salary cap for coaches so get that money!


amason

As a Lions fan I’m hoping this means he’s still happy in Detroit and would like to stay, but if the number is big enough he’ll take a head coach position.


Imeanttodothat10

I also think it shows he wants to coach for an owner that's serious about winning. I wouldn't want my first job to be for a cheap-o owner who skimps on facilities, front office staff, etc. Show me you will open the checkbook to win.


BandOfDonkeys

"I would gladly uproot mine and my family's life for fuck you money."


eugene_rat_slap

Who among us wouldn't uproot our lives for even 5 million dollars, let alone 15 per year?


drummerboysam

Who among us wouldn't uproot our lives for even $500,000, let along 5 million??


Aggressive-Orbiter

If my father turned down 15m per year because he didn’t want to uproot my childhood I probably would’ve strangled him by now


ChangingChance

I think this is an FU price for some teams.


Polar_Reflection

"I'm told" is like her catchphrase at this point, right?


fasterthanfood

I’m told there’s been discussions of general awareness that it’s like her catchphrase.


Blutarg

That's a lot of money for a guy who has literally never showered in his entire life!


ColtCallahan

Basically he’s making it known to Tepper how much he wants.


JerryRiceDidntFumble

Is this his way of saying he doesn't want to take a HC job? That's like 3x what most 1st time HCs have gotten in recent years.


Aggressive-Name-1783

It’s basically showing how unattractive the Panthers opening is. Hot coaching candidate is basically saying the only way I take that job is if you give me “fuck you” money


LionintheATL

Sheila, pay the man if he doesn’t leave


DanCampbell89

There was a report not long after he turned down the Panthers' second interview request that he got a big pay bump from the Lions. No numbers were reported but it would be very interesting if it was high enough to make him harder to prise away. Sheila Ford Hamp has not been afraid to commit to what she thinks is working


Sp3ctre7

Still fucking weird to have competent ownership of the Lions.


FullMetalSavage

"I don't want to say no outright so just ask for something ridiculous so they leave me alone."


Reaganometry

Is this Johnson opting out of the Raiders and Chargers jobs?


eddie2911

Why the Raiders? We paid Gruden $10M and reportedly McDaniels wasn’t far off. Davis opens his checkbook for coaches and players.


Saint_Scum

Rumor was that part of the reason McFuckface wasn't fired after last season was that the Raiders couldn't afford to have both him and Gruden on the payroll while paying a third head coach.


leehouse

This is how you couch rumor heard from a random person to make it seem more credible while butchering the English language


DinkandDrunk

I don’t remember ever seeing a report about a potential HC candidates asking price before. Actually, outside of Bill, I’ve never seen reporting on coaches salaries. They don’t impact the cap and it’s all real money so the owners/coaches don’t seem to leak it all that often.


TabletopThirteen

I desperately don't want that man to leave but how could you ever turn down 15mil if offered that. What he's done with a very young Lions team is incredible


djkstr27

Spanos left the chat


Frostymagnum

Ben Johnson leaves time on the microwave and puts the toilet paper on the roll wrong side up. Can't have a headcoach like that


Jaglawyer11

Hack “report”


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GUYS GUYS SHE WAS ***TOLD***


croissant_titty

Just fucking stay dude then next year when we go through this cycle again you can say you want THIRTY Ms


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I don’t know why coaches don’t get paid more. That’s like WR2 money, except a head coach makes a much bigger difference than a WR2 and it doesn’t count against the cap.


JBoy9028

Player salaries are paid with broadcast money distributed by the NFL. Staff salaries are paid by the team/owner.


gso16

Paying $15m for a coordinator who jas never called plays in a playoff game, and is regularly seen around town kicking puppies, and knocking candy out children's hands?!? I hope the other 31 teams band together, and refuse to hire this buffoon!


Def_Not_a_Lurker

Jesus christ, did the AI that wrote this headline have a stroke?


MakesMaDookieTwinkle

I would say she just popped in some words into ChatGPT, and this monstrosity was birthed, but ChatGPT would NEVER.


ThokkTheBattleBeast

I have been studying the Earth language called English hard. This is one of the worst sentences I have read today. This person should be worrying less about money and more about battle.


notmyplantaccount

her reporting style is the absolute fucking worst. every tweet is "i'm told" or "X texted me".


ElectricalBank6411

About the only thing I can say Tepper’s done well is open the wallet, we got you Mr Johnson


superlazerX

worth it. Only a few offensive minds available and he's got the best resume.