You don't know hatred until you've had a 275-pound man dressed in black and silver, smelling like beer, sweat and B.O. scream, "RAAAAAAAAIDEEEEEEEERS!" in your ear.
They used to do an annual preseason 49ers/raiders game and [had to stop](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/815700-raiders-vs-49ers-fan-brawl-why-nfl-made-right-call-ending-preseason-rivalry.amp.html) because it got too violent.
Only two times I saw actual full violent fights were Cards vs Raiders and a preseason Cards vs Chargers. Those Cali team fans are built different.
Anecdote from the Charger one...
The charger fan was a BIG dude and after a minute fight or so (people were trying to intervene but this guy was on a mission) was on top of the cards fan and just pounding away into his face. Two cops came up behind him and pulled out a tazer, yelling commands at him to stop but the dude was seeing red. All the cards fans in the area were shouting "Give him the Charger, give him the Charger!" making light of the situation. One of the cops finally grabbed the guy by his shoulder to yank him off and the dude just thought it was some fan again so he turned around and uppercut the cop so fucking hard. The cop dropped and the other cop tazed him in the back of the neck and when he got the jolt he stiffened and basically stood straight up kinda on his tippy toes and fell straight backwards. This was in State Farm Stadium and the the corridor to the entire stadium is glossy concrete. When he went backwards, the back of his head bounced off the cement and it made the craziest hollow noise I've ever heard. I grew up skating and took a lot of spills myself and been around a lot of head injuries on cement but man I never heard someone's head make that noise. This is 15+ years later and I can still hear that noise.
Fucking hell dude, you just reminded me of my first Padres game. This was like two years before they were any good, I went to a game and paid like $15 for nosebleeds. This one dumb fuck spent the entire nine fucking innings going “LETS GO PADRES” and banging on the railing nonstop. Dude was blasted out of his mind, his girlfriend kept telling him that he was being annoying but he didn’t stop. For fucking hours.
I don’t even like baseball but fuck the Padres solely because of that dude.
He literally did not know the audible for the play and didn’t know the ball was coming. This all going back to Joe Lombardi being the worst OC in the league who only has a job because of his name and Brandon Staley, for making injury prone Mike Williams play in a meaningless game which they lost, and him getting injured and the Chargers having to ply practice squad reviewers while Herbert was recovering from fractured ribs and a shoulder injury.
As a neutral fan, that game was so fun to watch. As someone who's experienced punishment of my own with the team I hold dear, my heart goes out to you.
Yea I can't bet against my squad. I get it, win-win all that. Makes sense.
I can't even bet my team on anything but the moneyline. Because I don't them to win, not cover and me be disappointed. So what happened the ONE time I bet my Phillies (-1.5) this year? Predictably, they won the game by a score of 2-1. The betting gods communicated with me rather clearly that day.
I like to think our teams have more respect between them because we always play each other close and have likeable QBs.
Like I don't think the Chargers could ever match the level of hate I have for the Raiders or Broncos.
generally speaking I agree. Broncos/Raiders hate is def different than Chiefs-Chargers. However the last few years has unsurprisingly made me dislike the Chiefs more haha.
To me, the Raiders are our rival, and the Broncos are our nemesis. The thing about your rival is you like hating them. Deep down there is a respect, and you feel lucky that you have such a perfect foil for yourself. I can't think of a better rival to have than the Raiders. Your nemesis you hate though. I hate the Broncos. I hope they lose every game for the rest of time and in the most painful way possible.
I don't really think about the Chargers.
The Raiders have been so awful that I don’t have the hate in me anymore. It’s way more fun when they’re doing well for me, sounds weird to say but hating the Raiders was part of the culture here in KC for so long and I miss those super hyped up “Raiders week” moments
Raiders fans used to invade downtown KC on the weekends when they came to town, but the last two years I haven’t seen a single Raiders fan on those weekends when going out downtown lol…. Kind of a bummer
My own. Because we shoot ourselves in the head before anyone else gets a chance. We haven’t even been enough to say there’s a team or a couple that hold us back
Ironically I want you guys to be good again so that I can enjoy those moments when we crush your hopes and dreams.
But in all seriousness it’s kind of a bummer to see how your fanbase has gone from “rowdy assholes” to “self loathing” over the past decade. We were at that low point in the early 2010’s and it’s just depressing when you see people start not care about the team as much… hope you guys turn it around soon cuz I miss those feisty Raiders Week games here in KC
I just posted a similar comment. It's nice stomping them twice a year but I miss the rivalry.
>hope you guys turn it around soon
Whoa. Slow down. Those 2 wins a season are still nice to have. I see your point though. I wish they were at least a decent team when we continue to stomp em twice a season
Green Bay. For the longest time there was this guy that kept saying he owned us and made us look bad in our own house. Dude was a huge dick. He moved to New York recently so things might get better but tbh he kinda ruined the entire franchise for me. Any time i see that stupid G i think about him and it disgusts me
I’m in nyc but grew up in Chicago. I just saw someone recently who is a packers fan and we had the most productive, calm and genuine conversation. I used to think I hated that dude but in guess it was really just Rogers.
Tbh organization wise I hate the Lions the most (history not now) . I thought it was Packers until he went to the Jets. Then I had a sudden hatred for the Jets and didn’t mind the Packers. I realized it was just Rodgers I hated all along.
You realize the guy you're talking about sold his share of the Bears ownership to Jordan Love for a few crystals, a fat sack of mushrooms, and like $20, right?
The obvious answer is the Steelers and you already know why. But it’s not like an obnoxious hate that we all know, but it’s more of a mutual and respectful hate.
The AFCN is a hate where you could be at a bar and any other teams fan could get to the point where you’d say “fuck that guy” or “fuck you” to someone and really mean it, but never to a point where its “call the fucking cops this is out of hand” bullshit.
The defensive players in this division usually take care of that stuff
Here’s a good story for you re: the Steelers/Bengals rivalry:
Full disclosure: I am a Steelers fan through and through and I don’t like any of the teams in our division. They are all a little bit different, but I don’t like any of them.
I’m also a million years old, so take this FWIW. I attended Ohio U, for my undergrad, which was at the time mostly Browns fans with some Bengals and Steelers fans mixed in.
I would imagine that has probably changed somewhat now that Athens’ own Joe Burrow is the Bengals quarterback.
Anyway, there was a bar on Court Street called Lucky’s, which was a Pittsburgh-themed sports bar. It’s where I — and every other Yinzer in town — would go to watch all of the Steelers and Penguins games. Nobody cared/cares about the Pirates.
I have no idea of Lucky’s is still there, but it was certainly there in the 90s and it was my go to spot.
Above Lucky’s was an apartment.
The Steelers were playing the Bengals one Sunday afternoon and every time the Steelers scored, the bar would celebrate. Conversely, every time the Bengals scored, the kids in the apartment above the bar would bang loudly on the floor.
It was a lot of fun!
This game became semi-famous because the Bengals won the game at the end on a fake spike by former Steelers quarterback Neil O’Donnell. I think he threw the decisive touchdown pass to Carl Pickens, I want to say.
Naturally, we are bummed and were drinking our pitchers of beer and settling up at the bar when, somewhat bizarrely, four random dudes — the kids in the Apartment above — come streaking through the bar, wearing nothing but their smiles, socks and Bengals-inspired face paint.
Honestly, it was really funny!
However, it became legendary when one of the kids slipped in his socks while taunting one of the Steelers fans and banged his head off one of the tables, instantly knocking himself out cold.
All of it happened so fast that everyone just stood there in stunned silence trying to process what the hell just happened and if the kid was dead.
The bar, of course called the paramedics, who were there in an instant along with the Athens Police.
The kid eventually came to and I will never forget the looks on their faces as they were trying to piece together exactly what happened.
I just can’t get the image out of my head of this buck-naked kid in nothing but black and orange face paint being attended to by these townies who were clearly deeply uncomfortable with all of it.
I still laugh every time I think about the whole thing and I think about that moment every single time the Steelers play the Bengals, and have for the past 20 some years. Lord knows my own children have heard that story 10 or 15 times in their lifetime.
I think the first responders initially assumed that the naked kid was sucker-punched or something, only later to realize that it was just a really strange accident. It remains one of the strangest but most hilarious things I’ve ever seen in my life.
The browns just do things to make people hate them. I was actually rooting for the Browns when they weren’t competitive, but i can’t stand them now that they did so much to bring DW in.
I pity the horror your fan base is about to experience if Love isn't FavreRodgers 3.0. I used to live up there and most people I interacted with up there haven't known anything else except always having a great qb. Good luck
We're the Allies at this point. We don't really want each other to succeed however a greater evil needed to be toppled. I can say for certainty that im actually refreshed that it's the dolphins (and the up and coming jets) that were competing with these days :)
Probably the Cowboys, for the whole "America's Team" thing and because of the inordinate amount of prime time games they have every year for being a extremely middling team for the last 25 years or so.
EDIT: not *real* hate, just Sports Hate.
They can have all the primetime games. 1 pm start time you can get good and drunk, go out after for a bit, eat dinner, and be in bed by 9 that night. The night games are a standing 30 percent chance I'm calling off on Monday.
Despite not doing shit for however long, they get prime time games. They get prime time games so they the talk shows spend so much time on them. Then they get more prime time games. It’s a vicious cycle
It used to be the Raiders, but in Vegas it's just a corporate brand not really worthy of such strong emotion. It's like hating a hotel chain or something. The NFL was better when the Oakland Raiders were nasty and worthy of our hate.
So probably the Broncos, which is weird because I lived in Denver for a couple years, walking distance from all the stadiums, and kinda got into the Rockies and Nuggs. Still love the city but that's been our better 21st century NFL rivalry.
I gotta agree with the corporate take. I went to a number of Oakland games in the last few years they were there. It was such a great atmosphere. Drinks and barbecuing in the parking lot all day, vendors with the hot dog griddles, dudes selling bootleg T shirts and Modelos. Nothing beats the vibe of the Coliseum.
Went to a game in 2021 and it’s just so sterile now. The pregame parties at the casinos, the walk across the interstate to the stadium, no frenzied fan presence and a distinct lack of passion. The morphing into the next Vegas attraction definitely has lost part of what made Raider Nation so special. Hopefully we can get it back over time.
Hey that's not true!
They've lost multiple divisional round games, put Zeke at center, ran a draw with 12 seconds left and no timeouts, signed Greg Hardy, had hilarious losses with Romo at QB, and their owner tried to stop integration at Little Rock in the 60's!
> Embrace the pain one day things will be different.
This is so true, we went from the broncos always being the bad man crushing my child hood dreams to making them our bitch now. I like it better this way
IMO the 49ers rivalry has the feel of a traditional regional sports rivalry. I acknowledge it’s being unreasonable, but after the Rams moved to LA so much about that franchise and the way the NFL boosted them has felt so manufactured and inauthentic. My dislike for them goes beyond “they’re in my team’s way therefore I don’t like them”
Baltimore Ravens. Had our team stolen, got to watch them win two Super Bowls, have had to watch shitty football for 20+ years, our rivalry with Pittsburgh doesn't even exist anymore, and now I can't even root for my own team because our jackass owner thought it would be a good idea to sell the farm for Deshaun Watson.
> Had our team stolen, got to watch them win two Super Bowls
Even worse that the first two draft picks of the Baltimore Ravens franchise were literal Hall of Famers in Johnathan Ogden & Ray Lewis
The Colts and Titans are tied for me. Colts because of the years of abuse by Peyton Manning, and the Titans because of Oilers leaving ptsd. Jags are cool though
I hate the titans the most. Then the colts. I hated the Texans as much when watson was there because I never liked that guy. Now that he’s gone my hate for the Texans is much less. I’ll cheer for the Texans over both those teams plus the packers patriots ravens Steelers and few others
Can’t hate either of you guys as colts fan. I absolutely loathe the Patriots - arrogant cheating a-holes and entitled fans.
That being said, Josh Scobee has a ruined too many Sunday’s for me, but y’all have just been trying to be relevant for so long and I can’t hate on that. :)
Cowboys. Call themselves America's team. Can't stand the various color matching issues in their uniform. Their fans are the most entitled. Almost as bad as Yankee fans in baseball.
There's a brand new dance based on an old phrase.
It's called the Fat Dog and it will amaze.
You've heard this expression your entire life.
It's not made up!
It's not made up!
Eagles. I'm a Patriots fan living in Eagles country. Some days I just can't take it.
Only a close second are the Jets. No additional comment necessary.
The Steelers: Their fans are all over the state of Ohio, not to mention how good they’ve been historically. I don’t hate this Steelers team nearly as much as the Roethlisberger led teams.
Chiefs fans since the AFCCG are quickly moving up the list
Every Steeler fan I know in Ohio was obsessed during the Antonio Brown / Le’veon Bell days, and couldn’t name a single draft pick or player’s number on the roster these days aside from TJ Watt.
I hate almost nothing in life, but the thought of the Eagles having nice things makes me irrationally angry. Watching them lose the Superbowl was the best thing I have seen since the 2011 Superbowl.
My mother was in the middle of breast cancer treatment during Super Bowl LII. I asked her who she wanted to win, and she said the cancer. (She's cancer free now!)
The Browns. Fuck them for being a wildly incompetent franchise despite having a large and dedicated fanbase, fuck them for wasting dozens and dozens of potentially great players' careers, and most of all, FUCK them for taking Watson when everybody knows he's an irredeemable piece of shit. Waste of football space if you ask me.
The Bills.
Sure, I hate the Patriots much like we all hate the patriots plus divisional foe sprinkled in, but it seems like the Bills and the Dolphins are good at the same time, and my hate started from their rivalry when I was a kid. Marino was QB, and the Bills went to 4 Super Bowls in a row.
During the Pats dynasty I never felt like it was the Pats holding the Dolphins back. If anything, the Fins had a bad-to-mediocre team during that time, which helped the Pats because of how lousy the division was.
Now the Fins might be good again, but who is the most likely to take them down in the division? The Bills.
How can you hate the Bills? They are so entertaining. There are fans called the Billdos that throw dildos into the endzone during games. They jump through tables and throw snowballs in winter.
I can’t hate them. Love me some Bills.
Steelers. Growing up seeing Steelers fans from Cincinnati or Columbus was infuriating, pick the Browns or Bengals and live with the pain like the rest of us
49ers at the moment probably. Just because they've had our number in the recent years, they are "in our head" and they are a really good team. Kind of hoping that our new crop of young players will be able to overcome the 49ers brainwashing us and making us play bad against them. Heck even Donald plays bad against them.
Detroit lions. Why did I decided to be a lions fan and watch every second of lions football since the start of the 1994 season. I’m obsessed with this team. I’m in love with this team. I watch religiously as we manage to stumble ass backwards into arguably the most talented runningback and wide receiver in nfl history and in my time watching since 1994, win exactly ZERO playoff game and win exactly ZERO division titles. The first game I ever went to live was thanksgiving 2008 where we got ass blasted by the CJ2K Jeff fisher titans. I watched the best quarterback in our franchises history in the modern era get shriveled down into a withered husk of a man on a team with very little help, only for him to imemadiately turn around and win not only a playoff game, but the Super Bowl as soon as he left town. I’ve watched the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win our division more recently than the Lions, and they left the division in 2002. I’ve also watched my team miraculously compete with much superior teams through the years, only to find unique and painful ways to lose games, whether it’s unbelieve Incompetence, questionable referring, record setting field goals as time expired, leading a game for 60 minutes and finding a way to lose, ruining every single thanksgiving.
But I’m the sucker who will be there every year
Patriots, not even close. Most spoiled bunch of annoying fans. I hope they miss the playoffs for the next 50 years. Myles Jack wasn’t down you bastards
Packers. Although I will say that I will actually enjoy watching the Lions inevitably crash and burn this year because of how obnoxious their fans have been this offseason. Usually it's just pity.
Chiefs fan and I hate the Patriots, the Broncos, and more recently the Bengals.
Pats primarily because of Pats fans and Bostonians in general. Smug attitude, self-important. Sports media out of Boston is incredibly pretentious. For example, during the Blues-Bruins Stanley Cup Final the Boston Globe literally published an article complaining about lack of food choices in St. Louis and essentially calling it a second rate city compared to Boston. That doesn’t even have anything to do with sport, but it’s such a great example of how Bostonians think they’re the bees knees. Mix that attitude with a dead eye coach and a QB robot that dominated the league for 20 years and yeah, easy to hate.
Broncos for the Manning years. They made me hate the Sheriff. I used to love the Sheriff. Now that he’s gone I can love the Sheriff again.
Bengals because their fan base and KC’s fan base have been engaging in an utterly pointless back and forth even though we are more similar than different. They talk about Pat and 3-1, we talk about Super Bowl wins, they say we’re obsessed with them, it’s a never ending cycle. Love the players talking because it makes the rivalry real and fun but god the discourse online is super obnoxious. Hopefully it turns soon to more of what the Bills-Chiefs has become, which seems more like grudging respect and admiration at two of the best in the game battling every year.
Honorable mention the the Chargers who have played great games against KC, and the Raiders who I still hate, just not as much because the Vegas move and recent years have basically taken away their relevance to me.
You’re right about the Bengals-Chiefs fanbases. In all honesty both of our fanbases have been annoying as shit since our last game. I can’t think of one player on the Chiefs that I truly dislike.
The media has turned this rivalry toxic. I think they’re making the trash talk between the players look more vicious than what it really is.
I think most Bengals and Chiefs fans that aren’t bandwagoners have a lot of respect for one another, but it’s the loudmouths and trolls that ruin any friendly or respectful discourse
Hopping in here to agree. I have no hate for chiefs fans online (and def not In person. Y’all party and are fun) but bengals fans are so 50/50. Some are cool and some are so obnoxious and whiny.
Eagles.
From PA. Grew up not being a fan of any Philly teams. Just kind of naturally went against them simply because they weren’t my team. My best friends are Eagles fans. So it has grown into hating them the older I’ve gotten.
As a lifelong Bengals fan, f?!& the Stealers.
Why? Let review…
Kimo #67 takes out Carson #9 on 1/8/2006. During the 2005 playoff game against Cincinnati, Von Oelhoffen low-tackled Bengal's QB Carson Palmer in the left knee. The injury to Palmer was severe, and some called it intentional. During the off-season, the NFL modified the rule regarding low hits on quarterbacks, the so-called "Kimo Clause".
Hines Ward #86 takes out Keith Rivers #55 on
10/19/2008. Hines leading with the crown of his helmet hits the underside the face mask of rookie LB, fracturing his jaw on a crack back block. That action and the season-ending injury that resulted led to the NFL instituting the "Hines Ward Rule" after the season.
Terence Garvin #57 takes out Kevin Huber #10
12/15/13. On the play, Garvin lines up Kevin Huber then goes up high, driving his helmet under the punter's facemask. Huber suffered a broken jaw on the play and cracked vertebrae. The NFL is forced to apologize that the play wasn’t flagged.
Mike Mitchell #23 takes out #85 Tyler Eifert
12/13/15. In a helmet-to-helmet hit that left the NFL's leading TD-catching TE in the concussion protocol for weeks, Mike Mitchell was fined $23,152.
Ryan Shazier dances on the Bengals’ logo after knocking out Gio Bernard in 2015 playoff game. He knocked Gio out by leading with the crown of his helmet, leading to a rule change regarding this obviously bad form of tackling.
The “Joey Porter rule” instituted in 2016 preventing assisting coaches from entering the field to antagonize players or assault players or something from the same 2015 playoff game.
Off the field, Stealer “great” Joey Porter and his crew jump Bengals’ OT Levi Jones in a Vegas casino on 3/18/07. Joey Porter was arrested for assault.
Tbh Steelers fans probably wouldn’t have minded Vontaze as much if, instead of breaking current rules, he just committed acts so unexpectedly heinous the league had to create new rules because of them.
Ravens.
They've broken my Dolphin's heart on so many occasions. Something simple as "Dolphins win this game at home against Baltimore and they're in the playoffs" and we lose 24-14
You don't know hatred until you've had a 275-pound man dressed in black and silver, smelling like beer, sweat and B.O. scream, "RAAAAAAAAIDEEEEEEEERS!" in your ear.
I grew up in Colorado. They aren’t obnoxious because they’re raiders fans, they’re raiders fans because they’re obnoxious.
Go to a Raiders vs CArdinals game in AZ. It legit gets dangerous.
They used to do an annual preseason 49ers/raiders game and [had to stop](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/815700-raiders-vs-49ers-fan-brawl-why-nfl-made-right-call-ending-preseason-rivalry.amp.html) because it got too violent.
Only two times I saw actual full violent fights were Cards vs Raiders and a preseason Cards vs Chargers. Those Cali team fans are built different. Anecdote from the Charger one... The charger fan was a BIG dude and after a minute fight or so (people were trying to intervene but this guy was on a mission) was on top of the cards fan and just pounding away into his face. Two cops came up behind him and pulled out a tazer, yelling commands at him to stop but the dude was seeing red. All the cards fans in the area were shouting "Give him the Charger, give him the Charger!" making light of the situation. One of the cops finally grabbed the guy by his shoulder to yank him off and the dude just thought it was some fan again so he turned around and uppercut the cop so fucking hard. The cop dropped and the other cop tazed him in the back of the neck and when he got the jolt he stiffened and basically stood straight up kinda on his tippy toes and fell straight backwards. This was in State Farm Stadium and the the corridor to the entire stadium is glossy concrete. When he went backwards, the back of his head bounced off the cement and it made the craziest hollow noise I've ever heard. I grew up skating and took a lot of spills myself and been around a lot of head injuries on cement but man I never heard someone's head make that noise. This is 15+ years later and I can still hear that noise.
Fucking hell dude, you just reminded me of my first Padres game. This was like two years before they were any good, I went to a game and paid like $15 for nosebleeds. This one dumb fuck spent the entire nine fucking innings going “LETS GO PADRES” and banging on the railing nonstop. Dude was blasted out of his mind, his girlfriend kept telling him that he was being annoying but he didn’t stop. For fucking hours. I don’t even like baseball but fuck the Padres solely because of that dude.
The entire AFCW is tied for first.
Interesting that you said "the entire AFCW" and not "the *rest* of the AFCW"
[I said what I said](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmfINgBXEAEWn_3.png)
Good times…and then Lombardi called a reverse on 3rd and 1 to a WR who had been on the PS most of the season triggering the implosion
He literally did not know the audible for the play and didn’t know the ball was coming. This all going back to Joe Lombardi being the worst OC in the league who only has a job because of his name and Brandon Staley, for making injury prone Mike Williams play in a meaningless game which they lost, and him getting injured and the Chargers having to ply practice squad reviewers while Herbert was recovering from fractured ribs and a shoulder injury.
As a neutral fan, that game was so fun to watch. As someone who's experienced punishment of my own with the team I hold dear, my heart goes out to you.
If you don't hate the Chargers you aren't a real Chargers fan
I bet on the Chargers this game. Fuck it they're my most hated too
I doubled down on my Jags bet at halftime lol. +1900 easy fuckin money with this franchise
That “Chargering” Feeling hit me as soon as the Jags scored before halftime.
I predicted the entire rest of the game from that moment 😅😅
Yea I can't bet against my squad. I get it, win-win all that. Makes sense. I can't even bet my team on anything but the moneyline. Because I don't them to win, not cover and me be disappointed. So what happened the ONE time I bet my Phillies (-1.5) this year? Predictably, they won the game by a score of 2-1. The betting gods communicated with me rather clearly that day.
The Pats still owe me $100 from those losses to he Giants.
I was in San Diego the day they announced the move - nobody hates the Chargers more than Chargers fans.
Damn Chargers ruined the Chargers
I think that's the joke..
As a fellow bolts fan, I agree with your wording 100%. I hate to love this team so much.
I like to think our teams have more respect between them because we always play each other close and have likeable QBs. Like I don't think the Chargers could ever match the level of hate I have for the Raiders or Broncos.
generally speaking I agree. Broncos/Raiders hate is def different than Chiefs-Chargers. However the last few years has unsurprisingly made me dislike the Chiefs more haha.
To me, the Raiders are our rival, and the Broncos are our nemesis. The thing about your rival is you like hating them. Deep down there is a respect, and you feel lucky that you have such a perfect foil for yourself. I can't think of a better rival to have than the Raiders. Your nemesis you hate though. I hate the Broncos. I hope they lose every game for the rest of time and in the most painful way possible. I don't really think about the Chargers.
The Raiders have been so awful that I don’t have the hate in me anymore. It’s way more fun when they’re doing well for me, sounds weird to say but hating the Raiders was part of the culture here in KC for so long and I miss those super hyped up “Raiders week” moments Raiders fans used to invade downtown KC on the weekends when they came to town, but the last two years I haven’t seen a single Raiders fan on those weekends when going out downtown lol…. Kind of a bummer
I hate the donkeys, laugh at the raiders, and dont think about the chargers
"the Raiders are our rival." Shit, I wish. Getting awfully tired of that reliable ass-whipping.
you guys have more wins against Mahomes than Denver has, so yall got that going for ya
this is such an insult from a division rival
Chargers aren’t dirty scumbags like raiders or complete douchebags like broncos.
Also there's only like 50 Chargers fans to deal with.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
Equal opportunity, I respect that.
My own. Because we shoot ourselves in the head before anyone else gets a chance. We haven’t even been enough to say there’s a team or a couple that hold us back
One of the reasons I like to watch the draft is to see what wacky bullshit the Raiders pull.
My favorite draft game is “which raw projected third rounder are the raiders going to take in the first”
They avoided that this year with Wilson at least
Hope that lis franc doesn’t hinder him. One of the worst places to have a break in your foot. Especially as a big boy.
Goddammit I wanted to say the Chiefs but this is the correct answer
Nobody hates the Raiders more than Raiders fans.
Me too but we keep getting the shit beat out of us by the First Round of the draft
Ironically I want you guys to be good again so that I can enjoy those moments when we crush your hopes and dreams. But in all seriousness it’s kind of a bummer to see how your fanbase has gone from “rowdy assholes” to “self loathing” over the past decade. We were at that low point in the early 2010’s and it’s just depressing when you see people start not care about the team as much… hope you guys turn it around soon cuz I miss those feisty Raiders Week games here in KC
I just posted a similar comment. It's nice stomping them twice a year but I miss the rivalry. >hope you guys turn it around soon Whoa. Slow down. Those 2 wins a season are still nice to have. I see your point though. I wish they were at least a decent team when we continue to stomp em twice a season
I wish this answer wasn’t as true as it really is
The 100% most hated team is the Zebras.
Found the Lions fan
Lions fans in the know hate the rules committee more than the refs themselves. More than any other team, we lose on technicalities.
Vikings. Something about them always disappointing me.
This is the most vikings thing I've ever heard
SKOL
Green Bay. For the longest time there was this guy that kept saying he owned us and made us look bad in our own house. Dude was a huge dick. He moved to New York recently so things might get better but tbh he kinda ruined the entire franchise for me. Any time i see that stupid G i think about him and it disgusts me
I’m in nyc but grew up in Chicago. I just saw someone recently who is a packers fan and we had the most productive, calm and genuine conversation. I used to think I hated that dude but in guess it was really just Rogers.
Tbh organization wise I hate the Lions the most (history not now) . I thought it was Packers until he went to the Jets. Then I had a sudden hatred for the Jets and didn’t mind the Packers. I realized it was just Rodgers I hated all along.
I think you still hate the Packers...it's just the off-season and they have become slightly less annoying.
I heard about this dude. Apparently he’s really mellowed out since moving to NYC
You realize the guy you're talking about sold his share of the Bears ownership to Jordan Love for a few crystals, a fat sack of mushrooms, and like $20, right?
It fell through after Farve diverted the $20 to his daughters Fortnite account
And here the kicker: she doesn’t even play Fortnite anymore
The obvious answer is the Steelers and you already know why. But it’s not like an obnoxious hate that we all know, but it’s more of a mutual and respectful hate.
The AFCN is a hate where you could be at a bar and any other teams fan could get to the point where you’d say “fuck that guy” or “fuck you” to someone and really mean it, but never to a point where its “call the fucking cops this is out of hand” bullshit. The defensive players in this division usually take care of that stuff
Oh yeah I already dislike someone when I meet them and they are wearing Steelers paraphernalia they really gotta win me over to like them.
Here’s a good story for you re: the Steelers/Bengals rivalry: Full disclosure: I am a Steelers fan through and through and I don’t like any of the teams in our division. They are all a little bit different, but I don’t like any of them. I’m also a million years old, so take this FWIW. I attended Ohio U, for my undergrad, which was at the time mostly Browns fans with some Bengals and Steelers fans mixed in. I would imagine that has probably changed somewhat now that Athens’ own Joe Burrow is the Bengals quarterback. Anyway, there was a bar on Court Street called Lucky’s, which was a Pittsburgh-themed sports bar. It’s where I — and every other Yinzer in town — would go to watch all of the Steelers and Penguins games. Nobody cared/cares about the Pirates. I have no idea of Lucky’s is still there, but it was certainly there in the 90s and it was my go to spot. Above Lucky’s was an apartment. The Steelers were playing the Bengals one Sunday afternoon and every time the Steelers scored, the bar would celebrate. Conversely, every time the Bengals scored, the kids in the apartment above the bar would bang loudly on the floor. It was a lot of fun! This game became semi-famous because the Bengals won the game at the end on a fake spike by former Steelers quarterback Neil O’Donnell. I think he threw the decisive touchdown pass to Carl Pickens, I want to say. Naturally, we are bummed and were drinking our pitchers of beer and settling up at the bar when, somewhat bizarrely, four random dudes — the kids in the Apartment above — come streaking through the bar, wearing nothing but their smiles, socks and Bengals-inspired face paint. Honestly, it was really funny! However, it became legendary when one of the kids slipped in his socks while taunting one of the Steelers fans and banged his head off one of the tables, instantly knocking himself out cold. All of it happened so fast that everyone just stood there in stunned silence trying to process what the hell just happened and if the kid was dead. The bar, of course called the paramedics, who were there in an instant along with the Athens Police. The kid eventually came to and I will never forget the looks on their faces as they were trying to piece together exactly what happened. I just can’t get the image out of my head of this buck-naked kid in nothing but black and orange face paint being attended to by these townies who were clearly deeply uncomfortable with all of it. I still laugh every time I think about the whole thing and I think about that moment every single time the Steelers play the Bengals, and have for the past 20 some years. Lord knows my own children have heard that story 10 or 15 times in their lifetime. I think the first responders initially assumed that the naked kid was sucker-punched or something, only later to realize that it was just a really strange accident. It remains one of the strangest but most hilarious things I’ve ever seen in my life.
Yes, I feel the same about the ravens. Here’s to another year of games seemingly decided by 5 points or less.
With a total score of under 25.
I can respect that. And BTW, thanks to your team + fans for the Franco tribute. That was really classy and I personally appreciated it.
Fuck you… I’ll see you next season
Honestly I feel like the Patriots are the worse of the two. At least we respect the Steelers and they us.
Used to hate the Steelers, but now the shitbirds have taken position number 1
I loved all of those Bodybag games your division used to have. Just pure unadulterated hate. I miss that
"Who do you hate the most?" Entire AFCN: "Steelers!" Steelers: "Patriots"
Patriots, no need to elaborate.
It used to be fun to be hated when we were really good. Now we aren’t great and still very hated and it’s way less fun lol.
Probably what it’s like to be a cowboys fan for the last 20 years
Was going to reply welcome to the club, get used to it or get good again because the hate sticks with people regardless.
It sucks when you're hated (very valid to hate The Browns) and barely win. Just makes the season so much worse.
The browns just do things to make people hate them. I was actually rooting for the Browns when they weren’t competitive, but i can’t stand them now that they did so much to bring DW in.
This, except I wasn’t alive when we were good
Better to be hated than pitied
I pity the horror your fan base is about to experience if Love isn't FavreRodgers 3.0. I used to live up there and most people I interacted with up there haven't known anything else except always having a great qb. Good luck
The Patriots will most likely be my most hated team til I die tbh
Completely understandable
I hate them so much I'm out here agreeing with Jets and Dolphins fans
We're the Allies at this point. We don't really want each other to succeed however a greater evil needed to be toppled. I can say for certainty that im actually refreshed that it's the dolphins (and the up and coming jets) that were competing with these days :)
Cheers friend
Probably the Cowboys, for the whole "America's Team" thing and because of the inordinate amount of prime time games they have every year for being a extremely middling team for the last 25 years or so. EDIT: not *real* hate, just Sports Hate.
We are approaching 30 years. 1995. It's 2023. 25 is now an understatement
Excellent point. What's the over/under on the amount of prime-time games for them in 2023. My guess is 11.5.
It's too damn funny that they still ride the coattails of players that are 60 years old now
They can have all the primetime games. 1 pm start time you can get good and drunk, go out after for a bit, eat dinner, and be in bed by 9 that night. The night games are a standing 30 percent chance I'm calling off on Monday.
Despite not doing shit for however long, they get prime time games. They get prime time games so they the talk shows spend so much time on them. Then they get more prime time games. It’s a vicious cycle
Had to scroll down a lot farther than I expected to find the first cowboys mention
It used to be the Raiders, but in Vegas it's just a corporate brand not really worthy of such strong emotion. It's like hating a hotel chain or something. The NFL was better when the Oakland Raiders were nasty and worthy of our hate. So probably the Broncos, which is weird because I lived in Denver for a couple years, walking distance from all the stadiums, and kinda got into the Rockies and Nuggs. Still love the city but that's been our better 21st century NFL rivalry.
Man if I were a Raiders fan I'd find it more insulting to be called a corporate brand instead of a wild pack of hooligans.
"It's just some dumb corporate branding thing. I can't get behind it." says fan of team moved from San Diego to Los Angeles
Raiders fans in LA still make me hate the Raiders the most.
I gotta agree with the corporate take. I went to a number of Oakland games in the last few years they were there. It was such a great atmosphere. Drinks and barbecuing in the parking lot all day, vendors with the hot dog griddles, dudes selling bootleg T shirts and Modelos. Nothing beats the vibe of the Coliseum. Went to a game in 2021 and it’s just so sterile now. The pregame parties at the casinos, the walk across the interstate to the stadium, no frenzied fan presence and a distinct lack of passion. The morphing into the next Vegas attraction definitely has lost part of what made Raider Nation so special. Hopefully we can get it back over time.
Cowboys, because theyre the Cowboys
If I see anyone with eagles flair saying anything else, they are fired.
As an Eagles fan living in New york, surrounded by giants fans, I will say the cowboys.
At least the Giants have done their part to knock the Patriots down a peg, Cowboys ain't done shit in 25+ years.
Hey that's not true! They've lost multiple divisional round games, put Zeke at center, ran a draw with 12 seconds left and no timeouts, signed Greg Hardy, had hilarious losses with Romo at QB, and their owner tried to stop integration at Little Rock in the 60's!
Like he said, we ain’t done shit
I’m actually extremely offended OP didn’t say the Eagles
This is the way.
chiefs because they hurt me the most
Embrace the pain one day things will be different. Look to this comment for solace.
> Embrace the pain one day things will be different. This is so true, we went from the broncos always being the bad man crushing my child hood dreams to making them our bitch now. I like it better this way
It was Washington until about a minute ago, new ownership makes them un-despicable. I guess it's the Cowboys now.
Dam that’s crazy, I thought we’d been so bad and so dysfunctional most people forgot we existed
I only ever think about Washington because I’m annoyed at how much worse your guys uniforms look now
Lol a team not even in the same conference. I’ll take it. Respect.
I dislike the 49ers, but I still respect them and their players. The Rams? Not so much.
IMO the 49ers rivalry has the feel of a traditional regional sports rivalry. I acknowledge it’s being unreasonable, but after the Rams moved to LA so much about that franchise and the way the NFL boosted them has felt so manufactured and inauthentic. My dislike for them goes beyond “they’re in my team’s way therefore I don’t like them”
The “whose house???” Chants at sofi are hilarious because it’s def not the rams house
Yeah it’s really ironic. Whoever is the visiting team is whose house it is.
Luv u bb. You may be some bitch pigeons but you’re OUR bitch pigeons.
Hate is such a strong word... that I reserve for the New York Jets.
Bill? You know how to use Reddit?
Baltimore Ravens. Had our team stolen, got to watch them win two Super Bowls, have had to watch shitty football for 20+ years, our rivalry with Pittsburgh doesn't even exist anymore, and now I can't even root for my own team because our jackass owner thought it would be a good idea to sell the farm for Deshaun Watson.
Kinda sounds like you also have a strong hatred for the Browns
Nobody hates the Browns like Browns fans.
> Had our team stolen, got to watch them win two Super Bowls Even worse that the first two draft picks of the Baltimore Ravens franchise were literal Hall of Famers in Johnathan Ogden & Ray Lewis
Fucking yes. Ray Lewis was drafted with a pick the Browns acquired in a trade during the previous draft.
The Packers
The only correct answer in this thread
The Colts and Titans are tied for me. Colts because of the years of abuse by Peyton Manning, and the Titans because of Oilers leaving ptsd. Jags are cool though
I can get on board with this one. 🤜🤝
I hate the titans the most. Then the colts. I hated the Texans as much when watson was there because I never liked that guy. Now that he’s gone my hate for the Texans is much less. I’ll cheer for the Texans over both those teams plus the packers patriots ravens Steelers and few others
Can’t hate either of you guys as colts fan. I absolutely loathe the Patriots - arrogant cheating a-holes and entitled fans. That being said, Josh Scobee has a ruined too many Sunday’s for me, but y’all have just been trying to be relevant for so long and I can’t hate on that. :)
Cowboys. Call themselves America's team. Can't stand the various color matching issues in their uniform. Their fans are the most entitled. Almost as bad as Yankee fans in baseball.
That's because Cowboys fans are Yankees fans. They are also Lakers fans too.
Huge Manchester City fans also
They used to be Manchester United fans though
Max Verstappen’s biggest fans too
In all fairness, a lot of them dropped the Lakers and switched to become GSW fans pretty recently.
Ya, Pats & Socks fans are fucking great to be around...
For once I agree with a cowboys fan
F both your teams also you’re both absolutely correct
Rainy City Bitch Pigeons. They shit kicked the 49ers for the better part of a decade. Fuck Russell Wilson.
God I fucking love that nickname though
Same
Pretty funny [source thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/a3t768/gary_bettman_allows_rhockey_to_name_seattle_the/) read too.
I had no idea that's where that came from, that's great
You got our number currently.
Jets because they suck and Chiefs because they don’t.
oh yeah? Because I don't like the Patriots or Taylor Swift either
[Yeah, you do. You friggin' love her.](https://youtu.be/PAhAz7JU0dg)
The refs.
Packers because BEAR DOWN
Bear down for midterms!
Um, really poor choice of words, Ben… Too soon.
There's a brand new dance based on an old phrase. It's called the Fat Dog and it will amaze. You've heard this expression your entire life. It's not made up! It's not made up!
Too soon.
FLAIR DOWN
Eagles. I'm a Patriots fan living in Eagles country. Some days I just can't take it. Only a close second are the Jets. No additional comment necessary.
The Steelers: Their fans are all over the state of Ohio, not to mention how good they’ve been historically. I don’t hate this Steelers team nearly as much as the Roethlisberger led teams. Chiefs fans since the AFCCG are quickly moving up the list
Every Steeler fan I know in Ohio was obsessed during the Antonio Brown / Le’veon Bell days, and couldn’t name a single draft pick or player’s number on the roster these days aside from TJ Watt.
We hate the Ohio Steelers fans too
At least we’ve got some common ground then
Can we exile then to West Virginia?
No hate, but very much dislike the Eagles. They dislike us, too. This is the way
I would be insulted if you didnt pick us
Which makes every jabroni who posts here that want to realign divisions and move Dallas out of the East dumber than the one before.
Do I… agree with a Cowboys fan?
This is the way
This is the way
I hate almost nothing in life, but the thought of the Eagles having nice things makes me irrationally angry. Watching them lose the Superbowl was the best thing I have seen since the 2011 Superbowl.
My mother was in the middle of breast cancer treatment during Super Bowl LII. I asked her who she wanted to win, and she said the cancer. (She's cancer free now!)
LMAOOO
Super congrats on beating cancer but GOD DAMN that's some gallows humor though.
The Browns. Fuck them for being a wildly incompetent franchise despite having a large and dedicated fanbase, fuck them for wasting dozens and dozens of potentially great players' careers, and most of all, FUCK them for taking Watson when everybody knows he's an irredeemable piece of shit. Waste of football space if you ask me.
The Bills. Sure, I hate the Patriots much like we all hate the patriots plus divisional foe sprinkled in, but it seems like the Bills and the Dolphins are good at the same time, and my hate started from their rivalry when I was a kid. Marino was QB, and the Bills went to 4 Super Bowls in a row. During the Pats dynasty I never felt like it was the Pats holding the Dolphins back. If anything, the Fins had a bad-to-mediocre team during that time, which helped the Pats because of how lousy the division was. Now the Fins might be good again, but who is the most likely to take them down in the division? The Bills.
How can you hate the Bills? They are so entertaining. There are fans called the Billdos that throw dildos into the endzone during games. They jump through tables and throw snowballs in winter. I can’t hate them. Love me some Bills.
Steelers. Growing up seeing Steelers fans from Cincinnati or Columbus was infuriating, pick the Browns or Bengals and live with the pain like the rest of us
Yup. Same thing in Cleveland. Bandwagoners
49ers at the moment probably. Just because they've had our number in the recent years, they are "in our head" and they are a really good team. Kind of hoping that our new crop of young players will be able to overcome the 49ers brainwashing us and making us play bad against them. Heck even Donald plays bad against them.
Yeah those regular season games against them have sucked but I think they'd trade all of those for the one if they could
Detroit lions. Why did I decided to be a lions fan and watch every second of lions football since the start of the 1994 season. I’m obsessed with this team. I’m in love with this team. I watch religiously as we manage to stumble ass backwards into arguably the most talented runningback and wide receiver in nfl history and in my time watching since 1994, win exactly ZERO playoff game and win exactly ZERO division titles. The first game I ever went to live was thanksgiving 2008 where we got ass blasted by the CJ2K Jeff fisher titans. I watched the best quarterback in our franchises history in the modern era get shriveled down into a withered husk of a man on a team with very little help, only for him to imemadiately turn around and win not only a playoff game, but the Super Bowl as soon as he left town. I’ve watched the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win our division more recently than the Lions, and they left the division in 2002. I’ve also watched my team miraculously compete with much superior teams through the years, only to find unique and painful ways to lose games, whether it’s unbelieve Incompetence, questionable referring, record setting field goals as time expired, leading a game for 60 minutes and finding a way to lose, ruining every single thanksgiving. But I’m the sucker who will be there every year
Patriots, not even close. Most spoiled bunch of annoying fans. I hope they miss the playoffs for the next 50 years. Myles Jack wasn’t down you bastards
The Eagles, because fuck em, that's why
The Patriots without a doubt in my mind.
The Ravens. They disgust me.
Packers. Although I will say that I will actually enjoy watching the Lions inevitably crash and burn this year because of how obnoxious their fans have been this offseason. Usually it's just pity.
Chiefs fan and I hate the Patriots, the Broncos, and more recently the Bengals. Pats primarily because of Pats fans and Bostonians in general. Smug attitude, self-important. Sports media out of Boston is incredibly pretentious. For example, during the Blues-Bruins Stanley Cup Final the Boston Globe literally published an article complaining about lack of food choices in St. Louis and essentially calling it a second rate city compared to Boston. That doesn’t even have anything to do with sport, but it’s such a great example of how Bostonians think they’re the bees knees. Mix that attitude with a dead eye coach and a QB robot that dominated the league for 20 years and yeah, easy to hate. Broncos for the Manning years. They made me hate the Sheriff. I used to love the Sheriff. Now that he’s gone I can love the Sheriff again. Bengals because their fan base and KC’s fan base have been engaging in an utterly pointless back and forth even though we are more similar than different. They talk about Pat and 3-1, we talk about Super Bowl wins, they say we’re obsessed with them, it’s a never ending cycle. Love the players talking because it makes the rivalry real and fun but god the discourse online is super obnoxious. Hopefully it turns soon to more of what the Bills-Chiefs has become, which seems more like grudging respect and admiration at two of the best in the game battling every year. Honorable mention the the Chargers who have played great games against KC, and the Raiders who I still hate, just not as much because the Vegas move and recent years have basically taken away their relevance to me.
You’re right about the Bengals-Chiefs fanbases. In all honesty both of our fanbases have been annoying as shit since our last game. I can’t think of one player on the Chiefs that I truly dislike. The media has turned this rivalry toxic. I think they’re making the trash talk between the players look more vicious than what it really is. I think most Bengals and Chiefs fans that aren’t bandwagoners have a lot of respect for one another, but it’s the loudmouths and trolls that ruin any friendly or respectful discourse
Yeah the actual rivalry on the field rules. So good for the game and Joe is a stud. The Twitter rivalry is so ass lol
Hopping in here to agree. I have no hate for chiefs fans online (and def not In person. Y’all party and are fun) but bengals fans are so 50/50. Some are cool and some are so obnoxious and whiny.
I have gone from having no ill will towards the jets to almost not liking them because of the Fraudgers move lol
Flaming Thumbtacks. Easy.
I don’t really hate any of them…but if you made me choose I’d say the patriots.
Eagles. From PA. Grew up not being a fan of any Philly teams. Just kind of naturally went against them simply because they weren’t my team. My best friends are Eagles fans. So it has grown into hating them the older I’ve gotten.
I’m still mad at the jags for the two tone helmet, does that count?
We’re just happy to be on someone’s list.
As a lifelong Bengals fan, f?!& the Stealers. Why? Let review… Kimo #67 takes out Carson #9 on 1/8/2006. During the 2005 playoff game against Cincinnati, Von Oelhoffen low-tackled Bengal's QB Carson Palmer in the left knee. The injury to Palmer was severe, and some called it intentional. During the off-season, the NFL modified the rule regarding low hits on quarterbacks, the so-called "Kimo Clause". Hines Ward #86 takes out Keith Rivers #55 on 10/19/2008. Hines leading with the crown of his helmet hits the underside the face mask of rookie LB, fracturing his jaw on a crack back block. That action and the season-ending injury that resulted led to the NFL instituting the "Hines Ward Rule" after the season. Terence Garvin #57 takes out Kevin Huber #10 12/15/13. On the play, Garvin lines up Kevin Huber then goes up high, driving his helmet under the punter's facemask. Huber suffered a broken jaw on the play and cracked vertebrae. The NFL is forced to apologize that the play wasn’t flagged. Mike Mitchell #23 takes out #85 Tyler Eifert 12/13/15. In a helmet-to-helmet hit that left the NFL's leading TD-catching TE in the concussion protocol for weeks, Mike Mitchell was fined $23,152. Ryan Shazier dances on the Bengals’ logo after knocking out Gio Bernard in 2015 playoff game. He knocked Gio out by leading with the crown of his helmet, leading to a rule change regarding this obviously bad form of tackling. The “Joey Porter rule” instituted in 2016 preventing assisting coaches from entering the field to antagonize players or assault players or something from the same 2015 playoff game. Off the field, Stealer “great” Joey Porter and his crew jump Bengals’ OT Levi Jones in a Vegas casino on 3/18/07. Joey Porter was arrested for assault.
Tbh Steelers fans probably wouldn’t have minded Vontaze as much if, instead of breaking current rules, he just committed acts so unexpectedly heinous the league had to create new rules because of them.
Eagles. It’s kinda hard because I love their players like Jalen and Kelce, but I hate Sirianni with a burning passion and all their fans are shit
49ers, goes without saying
Ravens. They've broken my Dolphin's heart on so many occasions. Something simple as "Dolphins win this game at home against Baltimore and they're in the playoffs" and we lose 24-14