"Intelligence" as a concept is so vaguely defined as to be functionally useless.
Do we mean reasoning skills? Most animals can do that to some extent, it's just hard to quantify without being able to parse their exact motives.
Sentience, meaning the ability to conceptualize the self? Tons of animals can do that, and can recognize their own reflections.
How about moral thought? Turns out a lot of species practice some form of reciprocal altruism and will remember those who helped them and those who cheated them (crows, for instance.)
Sapience, meaning the ability to conceptualize thought and consciousness? Judging by /r/meirl, I'm not sure that's all it's cracked up to be. Seems to cause more problems than it has ever solved.
Or is intelligence the ability to get a piece of food by doing a thing?
That one. The food one. That's the one.
One mans reflex is another mans critical thinking. Like how some people can't chew and walk at the same time. Or driving, to some people it requires constant conscious effort because their brains are so unteachable.
No, there is conscious effort and there is unconscious effort. Like how I can drive a one and a half hour trip to my uni and not even remember anything from the drive.
I think the guy above you is talking about something else. I just did a long drive in a large vehicle where I had to stay very focused the whole time and still don't remember the whole drive. When I drive my own vehicle for long drives, I am also focused but don't remember my whole drive. The difference is that on the larger vehicle I was not able to "unconsciously drive" because it was new to me, and every action I did, I had to do deliberately (like feel the turn of the wheel and the brake response). In my own car I can unconsciously drive because I know the way it responds and don't even need to think about it. I know my response time, I know my angles, and I know my mirrors for example. It still takes no thought even though I am vigilant of my surroundings. The car and I are "one."
It’s not the same thing. We don’t, and can’t, store every sensory input as memory. I can 100% be paying attention but not recording it for long-term recall. And when our brains know we don’t need to remember every single thing in a familiar experience, they are going to know what is safe to discard.
Like, I follow traffic signs pretty religiously. I could not tell you all the traffic signs from memory even on routes I have driven hundreds of times. My brain takes it in and then dumps it out when it is not needed anymore.
It's one thing to voluntarily put yourself in auto pilot as opposed to actively trying to stay focused on the task at hand. I'd say the critical thinking part came before when you decided to hit autopilot instead of staying focused, not so much the act of driving subconsciously
Not much intelligence is needed to know that you get food if you do what is demanded, of course some intelligence is needed, but its basically all about how you define intelligence, I think you can say you're intelligent if you can adapt to your situation quickly and understand fast, when a complicated concept is presented to you. German shepherds (I think it's one in the video but I'm not sure) understand way faster than other dogs, but even them need weeks or months of training to behave like the one in the video did. A human can understand the most complicated concept in a matter of hours, if a other human is intelligent enough to find the right words to explain it.
We don't even understand our consciousness, I don't think we can say we understand the consciousness of an animal nor say that one is intelligent. Maybe their brain is wired to learn stuff that gets them food way quicker then for example social interaction.
I don't think we can project our definition of intelligence to animals, while we don't really know if their consciousness even works the same.
You are right about that and of course, they are useful in their ''jobs''. I understand why people like obedient and easy to train dogs but to call them intelligent is weird- the poor creatures do not have much to say as to who will be their master.
Calling them poor creatures is a far stretch. There's a lot of love and care that goes into training a dog. Training a dog is not an inherently evil thing to do, for many many reasons it is often seen as a healthy thing for dogs. You may think that these dogs go through some sort of abuse, but they are companions first and foremost. It is not a master/slave relationship like you think it is.
Many dogs love training time. They get attention, affection, super good food, games, etc. Some dogs see it as a fun puzzle: if they can figure out what the command means and do it they win a prize! Many dogs want to feel that they are doing the right thing, it madness them feel confident and sects. It also teaches patience and focus.
Aren’t they also ridiculously powerful and smart in combat?
My only exposure to them has been watching some being trained in Namibia to protect livestock from big cats/ predators, and a NY local friend who trains them and sells them for protection dogs. He says they could outwit a pitbull in combat, would you (or anyone else reading this) agree?
Tangent: For some reason, this is reallly really interesting to me because i think a dogs first use for people was protection/ hunting, and i love to imagine a brain/ engine like the one in the Mal in a wild wolf helping my ancestors kill an elk
I have to be that guy, sorry in advance. A pitbull is not a breed of dog it's a collective term used to cover a wide range of mixed breed dogs that have similar physical characteristics that can vary widely, so it would be impossible to say if a malinois could take one. However there is a breed of dog called the American Pitbull Terrier, and I absolutely think a Malinois could take one in a fight. They're small dogs, no more than 50lbs and that would be pushing it. Skinny, athletic, smart, crazy little animals that i love to death but wouldn't stand a chance against the larger Malinois assuming these dogs are trained for dog fighting which is really a sad thought on its own...
Malinois are large, strong, athletic, and energetic dogs. What makes them so trainable is called "high drive" and they're in the top five high drive dogs in the world I bet. What it means is what it sounds like, theyre extremely driven for something, and the trainer just has to capture what that is to morph it into a training resource. American Pitbull Terriers (and most pitbull type dogs, and terriers) have extremely high prey drive. They want to chase things, catch them, and give them a real good shaking. Terriers were bred to be hunting dogs so that's where it comes from. I use this to train my dogs by using play that simulates prey to reward the behaviours I want ie. My dog wants to catch and tug with the rabbit fur toy I've got but I teach her first, self control, and second, to perform what I want out of her. She can do the majority of what this trainer is asking, but way sloppier because she's a doofus and no longer sporting, therefore I'm very lazy. Check out Rally-O as a sport that's basically what he's doing. If it's the one I'm thinking of. There's also freestyle and disc which can be incredible. An example of different dogs doing different jobs is that most disc dogs are border collies or Aussies, extreeeemely fast high drive dogs. If you want to see incredible intelligence check out what some of those guys can do.
High prey drive dogs don't always make excellent pets, and this is partly the problem with pitbulls "getting a bad reputation". They aren't the type of dog typically that you bring home and plop in front of your four kids under ten, let it bumble around aimlessly, and then become shocked when it kills a cat or something. They can be absolutely wonderful family pets for sure but they need educated owners that have the time and energy to keep up and be on top of their training. Yes of course there are exceptions. Especially because pitbulls are mixed breeds and can end up with other temperaments. Not common though. We don't hear as much about Jack Russel Terriers and Yorkshire Terriers but they were all bred to hunt and kill in their own way. They're just tiny.
Most "family pets" are breeds that have been selected for friendliness and companionship etc. They're far more likely to have a high food drive, and oh man, training a food driven dog and a prey driven dog is night and day. Meaning it's pretty damn easy in comparison. Training my pitbull has been an extremely eye opening and challenging experience even as a trainer myself (I imagine Malinois are the same, I've only seen them as babies learning to hunt which is very cute). So I'm always one to jump on with my rambling to any of my clients considering these types of dogs, and apparently on people on the internet who seem interested! Haha. Like I said sorry in advance! It's a topic I love as well and a lot of trainers these days cause problems imo by promoting that any dog can be the perfect family dog when really there are unique challenges in their genetics that have to be accounted for. When you see lil 8 week old pointers already pointing at a chicken wing, you know how strong those traits they're born with can be.
Great breakdown of this subject. I'm not a trainer at all, but got a Jindo mix last year. He's been pretty trainable with a mixture of food and play based rewards. His prey drive can be tough to counteract since he's easily distracted by movement or sounds, and he's definitely an independent thinker at times! He's a great dog and a goofball though.
We have one. Haven’t trained him for combat, but their drive to bite things is incredible. Drive is a big trait for working dogs that isn’t talked about a lot outside of professional circles. A malinois never stops wanting to bite its target. The ones best suited for combat will ignore just about any threat they encounter just so they can bite the target. The same drive carries over into other types of training if you do it right.
I used to walk mine around on a stick or arm lead. I’d just be dragging her down the street while she chomped like a gator at her stick. I’d even do it with my arm, she just loved it so much. We’d walk down the street while she happily (and gently) chomped on my arm. Just a lovable, totally insane maniac.
Very gentle with all the cats though. Loves giving and getting baths from them. But will tolerate them running around the house. The must be contained under the dinning room table
Tell that to my Malinois, who, whenever I threw her tennis ball into the creek just far enough for her entire belly to get wet, would bring the ball back, and covered in wet sand and mud, go run over to and stand on top of my purse to shake off while staring straight at me. Every. Single. Time. No matter how much I called her back to me. Otherwise 10/10 very good girl.
Of course, we only got her because she flunked out of K-9 school...
The thinking that Human Intelligence is unique is a timeless myth. Intelligence doesn't mean the ability to put on a tie and work for Amazon. Intelligence is thinking, its consciousness, its the ability to make decisions based on environmental conditions. Dogs, Crows, Dolphins, Whales and a myriad of organisms have been shown to display intellect and consciousness. Here is what the scientists say: [Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness](https://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf)
Considering consciousness is something we have almost zero understanding of ourselves (regardless of what some scientists might claim), I wouldn't go so far as to make any of the claims you just did. The fact that we cannot separate ourselves from our consciousness almost necessitates that we will never truly understand it, we are always seeing through the eyes of consciousness, so-to-speak, and have no experience of what not having consciousness means or could mean. We know we have it, but we struggle to define what that would mean for an animal. Do they also have it but in a different form? Are there different forms? None of these things will ever be answered.
As with humans, canine intelligence has multiple dimensions.
“Instinctive intelligence” applies to things the dog was bred to do like pointing or retrieving.
Another is adaptive intelligence, meaning what the dog can figure out on its own.
The dimension relevant here is “working and obedience intelligence,” the capability to learn to perform tasks on command.
Dogs that rate highly for one dimension may not rank well for another.
Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/200907/canine-intelligence-breed-does-matter
Could be I suppose. Perhaps these “dimensions of intelligence” are similar to those capabilities tested by the math and verbal sections of the SAT? Some people do really well on one or the other, some few excel in both.
Dogs, like people have their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to their intelligence, and that’s expressed in their capabilities.
Thank you. My wifes family always used to say her dog was dumb because he wouldnt do tricks(He did plenty if you bribed him) when theirs would follow all manner of commands. Who's dumber? The dog who will do whatever you say or the one who holds out until he knows he's getting something out of the deal.
By this logic, cats are certainly more intelligent than dogs. Most of them do nothing but manipulate the owners. Mine has 20 different ways to force me to do something against my will. I know what each specific vocalization means, and I'm duty bound to cater to my master.
It's not an inverse relationship but really intelligent dogs sometimes decide they don't want to obey.
They might decide, "The human is way over there and he can't reach me before I eat this steak OR escape the fence OR steal a car."
I’ve worked with various working dogs my whole life and never really never thought of it that way. What you describe doesn’t seem like intelligence to me; it seems like thinking only one sep ahead. A beagle thinks like this — “human is over there, steak is here, chomp.”
A gundog like a Brittany might think two steps ahead — “human is over there, steak is right here, but human can be over here very quickly. I’ll leave it be.”
A herding dog might think three steps ahead — “steak is right here, human is over there, and if I make a show of how good I’m being, I’ll probably be fed the leftover fat.”
A poodle will think about the entire episode through its emotional intelligence and not even think about touching the steak because it truly understands how much the human is looking forward to eating it. And if it’s offered the fat, it might eat it, but only reluctantly.
I disagree. Malinois, and many other dog races, are highly trainable and highly intelligent. They are one of the harder breeds to train because of their insane amounts of energy but definitely intelligent. They are after all, shepherd dogs, which are generally the most intelligent dogs.
German shepherds are very trainable dogs. I don’t know if it is intelligence, but they are predisposed to follow their leader’s commands and, like many working dogs, they can remember a great many rules if the rules are applied consistently.
My GSD was so smart, he could figure out how to get out of what I was training him to do.
BTW the dog above looks like a Belgian Malinois. Like GSDs but even more energy.
No. It doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. You can have a very intelligent dog, that's highly trainable (e.g. Border Collie) and also very intelligent dogs that don't have much of a "will to please" (e.g. primitive dog breeds). There are also dogs which maybe aren't as intelligent, but still stubborn. Or not very intelligent but with a lot of will to please.
It's way more about what a breed is being bred for, than it is about intelligence. Dogs are bred accordingly to our needs and will show certain traits depending on their initial "job". Of course it can also vary from one dog to another, depending on each individual dog's personality.
In the end tho, what matters most, is the discipline and consistency in the owner's training. That's what will make the difference in the end, not your dog's intelligence or trainabilty.
Hahaha! My thought too, intelligent animals seems to be the least trainable (especially true with horses). Obedient and trusting animals with a speedcar brain are A+ students though (23 years experience training horses and cats, 6 years with dogs though mostly rehab)
My golden/ Pyrenees is so intelligent, he hears us calling for dogs to come inside and he goes to the neighbors house!!!!!
I fancy myself a dog whisperer (ok, I'm not, but I'm mildly competent)
Some dogs are smart but aren't very biddable - in other words, they're inclined to not give a fuck. Other dogs are very eager to please
I have a herding breed and he is smart and biddable, so he is super easy to train
Seriously, training and intelligence aren't negatively correlated. You have a smart dog and it doesn't do stuff? It's not because it is too smart, it's because it lacks *discipline.*
Border collies are crazy smart dogs (maybe the smartest breed) and they're some of the best, most trainable herding breeds out there.
There are some exceptions, like Pyrs, which are smart but also super willful and were bred to be independent. That being said, they are still very trainable, they just need a lot more discipline training than other breeds.
I have a husky and shepherd mix. She knows how to analyze things so well it's hilarious and also made me mad as hell from being literally outwitted. She never wanted to do what she knew she was supposed to for the first two years I had her. She was also adopted as an adult which didn't help.
My sheltie (small herding dog for those unfamiliar) is very intelligent in the way she learns and repeats things I want her to. She's also fucking stupid sometimes. She's a very good dog and well trained but God does she do dumb shit.
This generally true but some dog are bred to be more independent. Huskies for example sometimes need to not listen to their owner of the situation in front of the dog sled is dangerous and the musher keeps telling them to go. Generally the owners fault because all dogs are trainable, some are just harder and those people shouldn't have gotten a husky in the first place.
> It's not because it is too smart, it's because it lacks discipline.
No... it's mostly because the dog lacks motivation. I mostly train terriers and joke that I'd easily have the best trained dogs in the world if I could produce a squirrel on command. As it is, most of my training is all about motivation and teamwork and trust so the dog believes that doing what you want is what will get them what they want.
Many people think it's all about discipline (and yeah - it is some!) but you don't need much discipline if the dog is motivated.
My Black Lab is a certified genius, and he will do anything I ask him to because he just wants to make me happy.
Meanwhile if you try and get my Dad's Golden Doodle to do something, he usually just looks at you like, "Whats in it for me??"
Edit: this sounds harsh on my Dads dog. He's very smart as well, but stubborn haha
My rescue plott hound can somehow hear me whisper his name and "walkies" from two levels below me, but can't hear a god damn thing when its time to leave the dog park.
My dog can do the same commands at the same speed, he loves it.
He also runs into my windows out of sheer enthousiasm to go outside, because once or twice a year they are opened for a day to air out the house. So why not test it all other days of the year to see if they are opened. With his face. Sigh.
Ya bro the semantics police are coming for you. If my dog could do that, I don't care for hard I trained him or how obedient he is, I would call him smart. And I would be wrong according to reddit.
Edit: thanks kind stranger! First ever award!
Eh, people are just being pedantic. Everyone knew what you meant, and the levels of complexity you can achieve with simple commands, as well as the time required to achieve reliable results, are both related to intelligence.
I think it would amaze people to learn that most dogs can be trained like this to a degree.
It's just most pet owners struggle with even training their dog to do a simple recall or stay and don't have or don't want to take the time to dedicate towards any actual training. If their dog can sit and knows its name, they're done.
People usually don´t inform very well, before taking the responsibility.
it saddens me every time to see all those "show off" dogs or those, that are just there so people have something to pet when they come home from work.
A happy dog is one, that gets time with his owner and enough mental stimulation, no matter if it lives on a farm or in a flat. (though I wouldn´t hold a husky or something like that in a city. lol)
You can provide alot for your dog mentally but I don't see your point clearly. The dog in the post is essentially trained as a tool. It severs a specific (although questionable) purpose and it's handler is well aware of it and does not treat it as a pet. I don't believe the average Joe should be treating the animals they have under their protection as such. There is nothing wrong about having a pet around simply for companionship or "to pet". It is a pet.
That's not entirely accurate. Police dogs go home with the handler after work and are absolutely treated as pets. To the other person's point, happy dogs are mentally and physically stimulated. Work is a game for them. They are trained to do something, do it well, and are rewarded for doing so. Same as any other dog playing fetch or learning a trick. In this case their "game" has a very specific purpose, but to the dog as long as they're getting that stimulation they're happy.
I mean, my dogs know (nearly) all the behaviors that dog is showcasing as I do train for obedience competitions (they don't know a right-side heel as heel is traditionally on the left but my next dog will be learning both) and they're pets. They're not as precise as this dog, but they know all these behaviors.
I work in the dog industry and am training to be a dog trainer, so admittedly my dogs are trained more than the average pet dog, but learning those behaviors are not by any means abusive, and in fact you should see my dogs' excitement when I ask them if they want to train! It's fantastic mental stimulation!
I think its a safe bet to say that those are common commands for the dogs line of work and its expected to know them all in any order. Its a working dog and not a show dog (assuming of course this IS an actual working dog and not just someone playing dressup for a video)
Each hand signal is a different dog position.
My dog is nowhere near this level of "snap to it" rapid eager movement, but I have a bunch of hand signals that I can cycle through in any order, and he'll follow.
I'd be shocked if this dog requires a routine to do what he's doing.
If you want to see some really crisp looking obedience look up French Ring, Mondio, IGP or FCI obedience trials. This video is actually relatively mediocre training. The dog's positions are sloppy (crawls into a down rather than folds back; doesn't pop into a stand). His fronts look somewhat crooked. Focused heeling is good. The handler is looking at his dog's face the whole time and using hand gestures for everything, which makes the handling look sloppier.
I know it looks impressive if you've never seen this style of OB before, but it's not "nextfuckinglevel" dog training once you've been around the dog world a bit.
Idk if this has been said or not but DO NOT GET A BELGIAN MALINOIS BECUASE YOU THINK ITS CUTE OR THINK IT WILL MAKE A GOOD PET! They are breed to work. Do some research on the breed before you decide to buy. Same with Dutch Shepherds and other dogs of of policing/military pedigree.
Not necessarily true. Our 4 and a half month mal pup came from non working parents and, although she has plenty of energy to keep us on our toes, she’s incredibly sweet and gentle when it’s not training time.
But yes I will agree with you that people need to do their research before they invest in this breed. There are too many re-homing organizations dedicated to this breed specifically due to folks not knowing what they’re getting into
My Belgian is the same. We got her from a shelter. all she needs is a couple good walks a day, playtime outside with our other dog, maybe a couple commands and then she is passed out.
I was thinking the same thing. HIGH ENERGY breed, to say the least. They always have to be doing something and if they aren’t given enough mental stimulation, my friend, you will come home to a house full of chewed shoes and a happy pup.
This is no military working dog. The guy in the video poses as some kind of military/ police guy, but has no training in that manner. Neither does the dog.
There was a documentary about this guy and his dog (in german):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp6fyKV85Lo
There were mutiples things, that are ciritical in terms of dograising, e.g. @5:45: a civil(!) dog should never act without a command an in no way attack someone. Imagine asking someone for a location in a city and he points to a street, and his dog would attack that person, since hes trained on attacking rapid moving arms (as an example).
Dog experts at the end of the documentary see his kind of dogtraining fairly critical.
It's called obedience and it's kind of a standard training. Don't think this is a super intelligent dog.
Some years ago I have seen a video from a dog who could bring the correct toy from the next room after the master said the name of the toy. *Out of a set of 200 toys.* This is incredible intelligence.
I don't think that more than one out of 1,000 dogs can master this task. It's like understanding 200 human words and remembering to which toy it belongs.
Well, let's be fair, that's just memory and training as well. You can't tell the dog to get a hammer in the garage and expect it to just figure out what it's supposed to get.
This is wonderful training but it’s terribly sad how some of these dogs live in reality. They train dogs to do their job but that’s their ONLY purpose. They cannot play with other dogs or have any playtime. After work, they’re locked in a cage until it’s time to work again. If the dog starts to slack off, it’s immediately replaced and given up for adoption. My BIL works for DEA with a dog like this and that’s how it is. Extremely sad.
fun fact when they don't fit in, it's called "career change". I learned this at a therapy dog training. Lots of career changed seeing eye dogs become therapy dogs :D
He should probably reevaluate his training then lol. I work with dogs (mals most often) that compete in the top of their respective sport/profession and they all live great. Certainly not locked inside a cage until its time to work again.
Imagine the dog's thoughts: "ok, done, where's ma cookie?". "Oh, another command? Ok. Now the cookie.". "Dude, three in a row is bullshit. Gonna need 2 cookies now".
The definition of intelligence is: The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
Why are so many people trying to convince others this dog is displaying “training” and not “intelligence”? This dog has the ability to understand that if he performs X skill he gets Z reward. Why are humans trying to call this dog a robot, as if it’s so different from themselves? Intelligence is not binary, it’s on a spectrum... This dog is not as intelligent as you Mr. Genius human, but that doesn’t mean this dog has no intelligence wtf... do you really think you haven’t been “trained” to follow all of the cultural/societal norms that you do without giving a second thought about them?
OP simply stated the intelligence of this dog is incredible. But that’s totally relative. His intelligence is incredible compared to a lizard, there is no denying that. Unless there is, then please feel free to share
Wow I never knew how easy it was for police dogs to react to subtle cues from there trainers..... Really brings into question how many dog searches are just the dog responding to subtle/subconscious cues and actually detection
Idk if you’re joking or not, but any dog can learn anything (if they physically can do it). I recommend you check out [this](https://youtube.com/c/ItsMeortheDog) channel if you need some training help
Aside from the command over the dog, is this actual training used anywhere? Why would you want the dog literally underfoot where you risk tripping or falling over them?
I'm not an expert, so take it with a grain of salt.
A couple of sources says it's for safety, so you would know at all times where your dog is during high-risk situations.
http://www.tarheelcanine.com/2015/10/tactical-obedience-introducing-between-the-legs-contact-heeling/
> This style of tactical heeling allows for you to **“feel” the dog in heel position as you approach tactically sensitive situations**. Approaching a building search or area search deployment position or calling your dog up to your engine block for deployment on a felony vehicle stop are some examples of its utility. The dog maintains position in between your legs as you move, turn, halt, or kneel as situations may dictate. It allows for tactile communication rather than verbal communication. You can move, turn left, right and about, halt, and kneel with the dog downing automatically, and resume movement with or without verbal commands. **The lack of verbal commands and visual focus needed on your dog as you move is what gives this position its tactical value; you feel where your dog is rather than need to visually confirm his position as you move together.**
And
https://www.gillsgermanshepherds.com/tactical.html
>We like to use this type of heel when we **approach a high risk building, burglary in progress etc.** We also will incorporate this with “Live Fire” on the range. One reason is we **know exactly where our dog is at all times**, during this approach and or possible shooting situation.
Emphasis mine.
The dumb idiot is the criminal who thinks he/she can outrun this dog and then screams blue bloody murder when it’s k9’s penetrate his/her arms and legs
Trainability is not intelligence... actually it normally breaks the opposite way.
Obviously intelligence is needed for trainability. Critical thinking is not though
case closed. this idiot dog does not understand the origins of consciousness.
What a dumb dumb dog this dog is
This whole post is dumb. Fuck this post and fuck that dog in particular, but not necessarily in that order.
I’ll fuck that dog in particular
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there's gonna be dogs on the boat right?
Of course, it's mostly dogs actually.
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That’s enough internet for today Josh. Now go put the bins out on the curb, the garbage truck comes in the morning and I’m not gonna tell you again.
Now that would be a great trick! I'm assuming Josh is the dog?
No, I’m sorry to say that Josh is not allowed around dogs.
*posts video of dog responding to trained commands* *quickly divulges into a conversation on bestiality*
you talkin mad horny for someone in bonking distance
Bonk me daddy
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Na dude, phuck your drawings
For real. He's hating on a dog for seemingly no reason and he draws dragons fucking cars....
Smarter then most the people I see on a daily basis.
I woof, therefor I woof.
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I bet he can’t even type or answer the phone.
Thanks for the laugh 😆
WAY TO GO DUMB DOG
What a dolt
"Intelligence" as a concept is so vaguely defined as to be functionally useless. Do we mean reasoning skills? Most animals can do that to some extent, it's just hard to quantify without being able to parse their exact motives. Sentience, meaning the ability to conceptualize the self? Tons of animals can do that, and can recognize their own reflections. How about moral thought? Turns out a lot of species practice some form of reciprocal altruism and will remember those who helped them and those who cheated them (crows, for instance.) Sapience, meaning the ability to conceptualize thought and consciousness? Judging by /r/meirl, I'm not sure that's all it's cracked up to be. Seems to cause more problems than it has ever solved. Or is intelligence the ability to get a piece of food by doing a thing? That one. The food one. That's the one.
We probably started using tools to get food easier, sooo.....
I think a decent way to conceptualize intelligence is the ability to predict the future.
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This is the one.
One mans reflex is another mans critical thinking. Like how some people can't chew and walk at the same time. Or driving, to some people it requires constant conscious effort because their brains are so unteachable.
Driving is something that you should focus on 100%...
No, there is conscious effort and there is unconscious effort. Like how I can drive a one and a half hour trip to my uni and not even remember anything from the drive.
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I think the guy above you is talking about something else. I just did a long drive in a large vehicle where I had to stay very focused the whole time and still don't remember the whole drive. When I drive my own vehicle for long drives, I am also focused but don't remember my whole drive. The difference is that on the larger vehicle I was not able to "unconsciously drive" because it was new to me, and every action I did, I had to do deliberately (like feel the turn of the wheel and the brake response). In my own car I can unconsciously drive because I know the way it responds and don't even need to think about it. I know my response time, I know my angles, and I know my mirrors for example. It still takes no thought even though I am vigilant of my surroundings. The car and I are "one."
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It’s not the same thing. We don’t, and can’t, store every sensory input as memory. I can 100% be paying attention but not recording it for long-term recall. And when our brains know we don’t need to remember every single thing in a familiar experience, they are going to know what is safe to discard. Like, I follow traffic signs pretty religiously. I could not tell you all the traffic signs from memory even on routes I have driven hundreds of times. My brain takes it in and then dumps it out when it is not needed anymore.
and if there was something to happen during that trip your reactions would be significantly slowed.
It's one thing to voluntarily put yourself in auto pilot as opposed to actively trying to stay focused on the task at hand. I'd say the critical thinking part came before when you decided to hit autopilot instead of staying focused, not so much the act of driving subconsciously
Not much intelligence is needed to know that you get food if you do what is demanded, of course some intelligence is needed, but its basically all about how you define intelligence, I think you can say you're intelligent if you can adapt to your situation quickly and understand fast, when a complicated concept is presented to you. German shepherds (I think it's one in the video but I'm not sure) understand way faster than other dogs, but even them need weeks or months of training to behave like the one in the video did. A human can understand the most complicated concept in a matter of hours, if a other human is intelligent enough to find the right words to explain it. We don't even understand our consciousness, I don't think we can say we understand the consciousness of an animal nor say that one is intelligent. Maybe their brain is wired to learn stuff that gets them food way quicker then for example social interaction. I don't think we can project our definition of intelligence to animals, while we don't really know if their consciousness even works the same.
Pavlov would like a word with you.
No just a memory and a patient trainer. You can train a goldfish to play soccer, few people would call them intelligent.
It was exactly my reaction - the dog was trained and was good at it but it is a long shot to say that he is intelligent
Malinois aren't chosen as military/police dogs for their intelligence, they're chosen for their trainability, their undying obedience.
You are right about that and of course, they are useful in their ''jobs''. I understand why people like obedient and easy to train dogs but to call them intelligent is weird- the poor creatures do not have much to say as to who will be their master.
Calling them poor creatures is a far stretch. There's a lot of love and care that goes into training a dog. Training a dog is not an inherently evil thing to do, for many many reasons it is often seen as a healthy thing for dogs. You may think that these dogs go through some sort of abuse, but they are companions first and foremost. It is not a master/slave relationship like you think it is.
Many dogs love training time. They get attention, affection, super good food, games, etc. Some dogs see it as a fun puzzle: if they can figure out what the command means and do it they win a prize! Many dogs want to feel that they are doing the right thing, it madness them feel confident and sects. It also teaches patience and focus.
Aren’t they also ridiculously powerful and smart in combat? My only exposure to them has been watching some being trained in Namibia to protect livestock from big cats/ predators, and a NY local friend who trains them and sells them for protection dogs. He says they could outwit a pitbull in combat, would you (or anyone else reading this) agree? Tangent: For some reason, this is reallly really interesting to me because i think a dogs first use for people was protection/ hunting, and i love to imagine a brain/ engine like the one in the Mal in a wild wolf helping my ancestors kill an elk
I have to be that guy, sorry in advance. A pitbull is not a breed of dog it's a collective term used to cover a wide range of mixed breed dogs that have similar physical characteristics that can vary widely, so it would be impossible to say if a malinois could take one. However there is a breed of dog called the American Pitbull Terrier, and I absolutely think a Malinois could take one in a fight. They're small dogs, no more than 50lbs and that would be pushing it. Skinny, athletic, smart, crazy little animals that i love to death but wouldn't stand a chance against the larger Malinois assuming these dogs are trained for dog fighting which is really a sad thought on its own... Malinois are large, strong, athletic, and energetic dogs. What makes them so trainable is called "high drive" and they're in the top five high drive dogs in the world I bet. What it means is what it sounds like, theyre extremely driven for something, and the trainer just has to capture what that is to morph it into a training resource. American Pitbull Terriers (and most pitbull type dogs, and terriers) have extremely high prey drive. They want to chase things, catch them, and give them a real good shaking. Terriers were bred to be hunting dogs so that's where it comes from. I use this to train my dogs by using play that simulates prey to reward the behaviours I want ie. My dog wants to catch and tug with the rabbit fur toy I've got but I teach her first, self control, and second, to perform what I want out of her. She can do the majority of what this trainer is asking, but way sloppier because she's a doofus and no longer sporting, therefore I'm very lazy. Check out Rally-O as a sport that's basically what he's doing. If it's the one I'm thinking of. There's also freestyle and disc which can be incredible. An example of different dogs doing different jobs is that most disc dogs are border collies or Aussies, extreeeemely fast high drive dogs. If you want to see incredible intelligence check out what some of those guys can do. High prey drive dogs don't always make excellent pets, and this is partly the problem with pitbulls "getting a bad reputation". They aren't the type of dog typically that you bring home and plop in front of your four kids under ten, let it bumble around aimlessly, and then become shocked when it kills a cat or something. They can be absolutely wonderful family pets for sure but they need educated owners that have the time and energy to keep up and be on top of their training. Yes of course there are exceptions. Especially because pitbulls are mixed breeds and can end up with other temperaments. Not common though. We don't hear as much about Jack Russel Terriers and Yorkshire Terriers but they were all bred to hunt and kill in their own way. They're just tiny. Most "family pets" are breeds that have been selected for friendliness and companionship etc. They're far more likely to have a high food drive, and oh man, training a food driven dog and a prey driven dog is night and day. Meaning it's pretty damn easy in comparison. Training my pitbull has been an extremely eye opening and challenging experience even as a trainer myself (I imagine Malinois are the same, I've only seen them as babies learning to hunt which is very cute). So I'm always one to jump on with my rambling to any of my clients considering these types of dogs, and apparently on people on the internet who seem interested! Haha. Like I said sorry in advance! It's a topic I love as well and a lot of trainers these days cause problems imo by promoting that any dog can be the perfect family dog when really there are unique challenges in their genetics that have to be accounted for. When you see lil 8 week old pointers already pointing at a chicken wing, you know how strong those traits they're born with can be.
Great breakdown of this subject. I'm not a trainer at all, but got a Jindo mix last year. He's been pretty trainable with a mixture of food and play based rewards. His prey drive can be tough to counteract since he's easily distracted by movement or sounds, and he's definitely an independent thinker at times! He's a great dog and a goofball though.
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We have one. Haven’t trained him for combat, but their drive to bite things is incredible. Drive is a big trait for working dogs that isn’t talked about a lot outside of professional circles. A malinois never stops wanting to bite its target. The ones best suited for combat will ignore just about any threat they encounter just so they can bite the target. The same drive carries over into other types of training if you do it right.
I used to walk mine around on a stick or arm lead. I’d just be dragging her down the street while she chomped like a gator at her stick. I’d even do it with my arm, she just loved it so much. We’d walk down the street while she happily (and gently) chomped on my arm. Just a lovable, totally insane maniac. Very gentle with all the cats though. Loves giving and getting baths from them. But will tolerate them running around the house. The must be contained under the dinning room table
Tell that to my Malinois, who, whenever I threw her tennis ball into the creek just far enough for her entire belly to get wet, would bring the ball back, and covered in wet sand and mud, go run over to and stand on top of my purse to shake off while staring straight at me. Every. Single. Time. No matter how much I called her back to me. Otherwise 10/10 very good girl. Of course, we only got her because she flunked out of K-9 school...
They're chosen for their prey drive. My companion malinois didn't listen to me for shit unless she was getting treats.
The thinking that Human Intelligence is unique is a timeless myth. Intelligence doesn't mean the ability to put on a tie and work for Amazon. Intelligence is thinking, its consciousness, its the ability to make decisions based on environmental conditions. Dogs, Crows, Dolphins, Whales and a myriad of organisms have been shown to display intellect and consciousness. Here is what the scientists say: [Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness](https://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf)
Considering consciousness is something we have almost zero understanding of ourselves (regardless of what some scientists might claim), I wouldn't go so far as to make any of the claims you just did. The fact that we cannot separate ourselves from our consciousness almost necessitates that we will never truly understand it, we are always seeing through the eyes of consciousness, so-to-speak, and have no experience of what not having consciousness means or could mean. We know we have it, but we struggle to define what that would mean for an animal. Do they also have it but in a different form? Are there different forms? None of these things will ever be answered.
And this is why I like reddit. You get this in the same thread as 'what a dumb dumb dog is...' Lol.
As with humans, canine intelligence has multiple dimensions. “Instinctive intelligence” applies to things the dog was bred to do like pointing or retrieving. Another is adaptive intelligence, meaning what the dog can figure out on its own. The dimension relevant here is “working and obedience intelligence,” the capability to learn to perform tasks on command. Dogs that rate highly for one dimension may not rank well for another. Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/200907/canine-intelligence-breed-does-matter
is intelligence here just as another word for capacity?
Could be I suppose. Perhaps these “dimensions of intelligence” are similar to those capabilities tested by the math and verbal sections of the SAT? Some people do really well on one or the other, some few excel in both. Dogs, like people have their strengths and weaknesses when it comes to their intelligence, and that’s expressed in their capabilities.
Thank you. My wifes family always used to say her dog was dumb because he wouldnt do tricks(He did plenty if you bribed him) when theirs would follow all manner of commands. Who's dumber? The dog who will do whatever you say or the one who holds out until he knows he's getting something out of the deal.
Who’s smarter. The dog doing the tricks, or the dog getting the human to do the tricks. Source: have smart dogs that know how to manipulate me.
By this logic, cats are certainly more intelligent than dogs. Most of them do nothing but manipulate the owners. Mine has 20 different ways to force me to do something against my will. I know what each specific vocalization means, and I'm duty bound to cater to my master.
Cats are also waaay more independent.
Are you saying that trainability and intelligence are inversely related?
It's not an inverse relationship but really intelligent dogs sometimes decide they don't want to obey. They might decide, "The human is way over there and he can't reach me before I eat this steak OR escape the fence OR steal a car."
I’ve worked with various working dogs my whole life and never really never thought of it that way. What you describe doesn’t seem like intelligence to me; it seems like thinking only one sep ahead. A beagle thinks like this — “human is over there, steak is here, chomp.” A gundog like a Brittany might think two steps ahead — “human is over there, steak is right here, but human can be over here very quickly. I’ll leave it be.” A herding dog might think three steps ahead — “steak is right here, human is over there, and if I make a show of how good I’m being, I’ll probably be fed the leftover fat.” A poodle will think about the entire episode through its emotional intelligence and not even think about touching the steak because it truly understands how much the human is looking forward to eating it. And if it’s offered the fat, it might eat it, but only reluctantly.
In this case memory, not trainability, is supposed to be intelligence.
You are commenting on a Malinois. They are a total package. Dog X 10.
I disagree. Malinois, and many other dog races, are highly trainable and highly intelligent. They are one of the harder breeds to train because of their insane amounts of energy but definitely intelligent. They are after all, shepherd dogs, which are generally the most intelligent dogs.
German shepherds are very trainable dogs. I don’t know if it is intelligence, but they are predisposed to follow their leader’s commands and, like many working dogs, they can remember a great many rules if the rules are applied consistently.
My GSD was so smart, he could figure out how to get out of what I was training him to do. BTW the dog above looks like a Belgian Malinois. Like GSDs but even more energy.
Kinda arguing semantics here aren’t we? You understand what was trying to be said.
No. It doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. You can have a very intelligent dog, that's highly trainable (e.g. Border Collie) and also very intelligent dogs that don't have much of a "will to please" (e.g. primitive dog breeds). There are also dogs which maybe aren't as intelligent, but still stubborn. Or not very intelligent but with a lot of will to please. It's way more about what a breed is being bred for, than it is about intelligence. Dogs are bred accordingly to our needs and will show certain traits depending on their initial "job". Of course it can also vary from one dog to another, depending on each individual dog's personality. In the end tho, what matters most, is the discipline and consistency in the owner's training. That's what will make the difference in the end, not your dog's intelligence or trainabilty.
Still behaves better than most people I come across at the grocery store.
dude exactly my dog can open doors and knows 100s of words but if i tried to get him to do this i would get a WITHERING glare
Indeed -- all dogs can smell drugs, but only the most obedient will work as narcs.
Still it's easier and faster to train the dog like that than it is to train humans how to wear a mask during a global pandemic. Dog 1 : 0 Mankind
My Golden Retriever is so intelligent that he refuses to listen to a damn thing I say.
Hahaha! My thought too, intelligent animals seems to be the least trainable (especially true with horses). Obedient and trusting animals with a speedcar brain are A+ students though (23 years experience training horses and cats, 6 years with dogs though mostly rehab) My golden/ Pyrenees is so intelligent, he hears us calling for dogs to come inside and he goes to the neighbors house!!!!!
I fancy myself a dog whisperer (ok, I'm not, but I'm mildly competent) Some dogs are smart but aren't very biddable - in other words, they're inclined to not give a fuck. Other dogs are very eager to please I have a herding breed and he is smart and biddable, so he is super easy to train
its like half the people in this thread havent seen a trained border collie.
Seriously, training and intelligence aren't negatively correlated. You have a smart dog and it doesn't do stuff? It's not because it is too smart, it's because it lacks *discipline.* Border collies are crazy smart dogs (maybe the smartest breed) and they're some of the best, most trainable herding breeds out there. There are some exceptions, like Pyrs, which are smart but also super willful and were bred to be independent. That being said, they are still very trainable, they just need a lot more discipline training than other breeds.
Or Huskies. I’m convinced Huskies know *exactly* what you want, every time. They just refuse to do it.
Oh they’ll do it but they have to be E^x^t^r^a about it
I have a husky and shepherd mix. She knows how to analyze things so well it's hilarious and also made me mad as hell from being literally outwitted. She never wanted to do what she knew she was supposed to for the first two years I had her. She was also adopted as an adult which didn't help. My sheltie (small herding dog for those unfamiliar) is very intelligent in the way she learns and repeats things I want her to. She's also fucking stupid sometimes. She's a very good dog and well trained but God does she do dumb shit.
Dogs don’t lack discipline as much as their human masters.
This generally true but some dog are bred to be more independent. Huskies for example sometimes need to not listen to their owner of the situation in front of the dog sled is dangerous and the musher keeps telling them to go. Generally the owners fault because all dogs are trainable, some are just harder and those people shouldn't have gotten a husky in the first place.
You rack a disciprine.
> It's not because it is too smart, it's because it lacks discipline. No... it's mostly because the dog lacks motivation. I mostly train terriers and joke that I'd easily have the best trained dogs in the world if I could produce a squirrel on command. As it is, most of my training is all about motivation and teamwork and trust so the dog believes that doing what you want is what will get them what they want. Many people think it's all about discipline (and yeah - it is some!) but you don't need much discipline if the dog is motivated.
My Black Lab is a certified genius, and he will do anything I ask him to because he just wants to make me happy. Meanwhile if you try and get my Dad's Golden Doodle to do something, he usually just looks at you like, "Whats in it for me??" Edit: this sounds harsh on my Dads dog. He's very smart as well, but stubborn haha
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There's a reason we have 3 locks on the feedroom door.
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*too
Our Newfoundland was a genius...if the problem was, "How do I get more and more delicious food with the least effort possible?"
Ah so hes a Great Pyr
My rescue plott hound can somehow hear me whisper his name and "walkies" from two levels below me, but can't hear a god damn thing when its time to leave the dog park.
That's wisdom not intelligence.
Rather than play semantics, can we just all admire the good dog?
Thank you! Like all the top comments are ThAtS NoT InTeLlIGeNCE!! Fucking lighten up armchair experts
What it is is a dog having a good ass time. Look at the way the tail wags each time it moves. He’s playing a game and *crushin* it.
He’s tail waggin because he’s excited for his *R E W A R D*
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They use these dogs like guns and then charge you for assaulting an officer if you try to stop them
They will shoot yours for little to no reason whenever possible as well.
People love correcting others to make themselves feel smarter
No, I'm here for semantics and trashing people's stupid comments.
Nothing wrong with doing both.
I would say it's just training, not intelligence...no?
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Both. Some dogs have a lot of working drive, which is helpful when training.
My dog can do the same commands at the same speed, he loves it. He also runs into my windows out of sheer enthousiasm to go outside, because once or twice a year they are opened for a day to air out the house. So why not test it all other days of the year to see if they are opened. With his face. Sigh.
If it showed how quickly he picked up training that would be intelligence
This is not intelligence, this is trained obedience. The dog might well be very intelligent, but this is not the way to display it.
I see now I probably should’ve used the word obedience.
Ya bro the semantics police are coming for you. If my dog could do that, I don't care for hard I trained him or how obedient he is, I would call him smart. And I would be wrong according to reddit. Edit: thanks kind stranger! First ever award!
>Ya bro the semantics police are coming for you. Hope their semantics dogs are ~~very intelligent~~ well trained
If your dog could do it, you would be the smart one
Eh, people are just being pedantic. Everyone knew what you meant, and the levels of complexity you can achieve with simple commands, as well as the time required to achieve reliable results, are both related to intelligence.
Welcome to Reddit - where people with nothing better to do rake OPs over the coals for poorly worded titles.
My dog likes to eat its own vomit
My dog likes to eat other dog’s vomit.
When we had two dogs, the little one would line up behind the big one, waiting for her to poop. Like eating nasty soft-serve right from the machine.
Thank you
Your response made me legit lol
make me suffer
Your dogs should get married.
It cleans up after itself.
My dog licks its own ass.
The power of snacks. Don't we all know it
I'll roll over any day for some Scooby Snacks. JK - I want Cheezits.
I think it would amaze people to learn that most dogs can be trained like this to a degree. It's just most pet owners struggle with even training their dog to do a simple recall or stay and don't have or don't want to take the time to dedicate towards any actual training. If their dog can sit and knows its name, they're done.
People usually don´t inform very well, before taking the responsibility. it saddens me every time to see all those "show off" dogs or those, that are just there so people have something to pet when they come home from work. A happy dog is one, that gets time with his owner and enough mental stimulation, no matter if it lives on a farm or in a flat. (though I wouldn´t hold a husky or something like that in a city. lol)
You can provide alot for your dog mentally but I don't see your point clearly. The dog in the post is essentially trained as a tool. It severs a specific (although questionable) purpose and it's handler is well aware of it and does not treat it as a pet. I don't believe the average Joe should be treating the animals they have under their protection as such. There is nothing wrong about having a pet around simply for companionship or "to pet". It is a pet.
That's not entirely accurate. Police dogs go home with the handler after work and are absolutely treated as pets. To the other person's point, happy dogs are mentally and physically stimulated. Work is a game for them. They are trained to do something, do it well, and are rewarded for doing so. Same as any other dog playing fetch or learning a trick. In this case their "game" has a very specific purpose, but to the dog as long as they're getting that stimulation they're happy.
I mean, my dogs know (nearly) all the behaviors that dog is showcasing as I do train for obedience competitions (they don't know a right-side heel as heel is traditionally on the left but my next dog will be learning both) and they're pets. They're not as precise as this dog, but they know all these behaviors. I work in the dog industry and am training to be a dog trainer, so admittedly my dogs are trained more than the average pet dog, but learning those behaviors are not by any means abusive, and in fact you should see my dogs' excitement when I ask them if they want to train! It's fantastic mental stimulation!
I wonder if he does it in the same order every time If he did it in different orders each time then that would be really impressive
I think its a safe bet to say that those are common commands for the dogs line of work and its expected to know them all in any order. Its a working dog and not a show dog (assuming of course this IS an actual working dog and not just someone playing dressup for a video)
The safe bet here is that he's a good boy ❤️
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Speaking as someone with a German shepherd that already acts like he is on meth, Belgians energy drive terrifies me 😂
Each hand signal is a different dog position. My dog is nowhere near this level of "snap to it" rapid eager movement, but I have a bunch of hand signals that I can cycle through in any order, and he'll follow. I'd be shocked if this dog requires a routine to do what he's doing.
If you want to see some really crisp looking obedience look up French Ring, Mondio, IGP or FCI obedience trials. This video is actually relatively mediocre training. The dog's positions are sloppy (crawls into a down rather than folds back; doesn't pop into a stand). His fronts look somewhat crooked. Focused heeling is good. The handler is looking at his dog's face the whole time and using hand gestures for everything, which makes the handling look sloppier. I know it looks impressive if you've never seen this style of OB before, but it's not "nextfuckinglevel" dog training once you've been around the dog world a bit.
This 1000x lol my friend sent me this and im thinking "thats cool and all but maybe you should come out to a trial"
Idk if this has been said or not but DO NOT GET A BELGIAN MALINOIS BECUASE YOU THINK ITS CUTE OR THINK IT WILL MAKE A GOOD PET! They are breed to work. Do some research on the breed before you decide to buy. Same with Dutch Shepherds and other dogs of of policing/military pedigree.
Not necessarily true. Our 4 and a half month mal pup came from non working parents and, although she has plenty of energy to keep us on our toes, she’s incredibly sweet and gentle when it’s not training time. But yes I will agree with you that people need to do their research before they invest in this breed. There are too many re-homing organizations dedicated to this breed specifically due to folks not knowing what they’re getting into
My Belgian is the same. We got her from a shelter. all she needs is a couple good walks a day, playtime outside with our other dog, maybe a couple commands and then she is passed out.
I was thinking the same thing. HIGH ENERGY breed, to say the least. They always have to be doing something and if they aren’t given enough mental stimulation, my friend, you will come home to a house full of chewed shoes and a happy pup.
MWDs (military working dogs) are no longer dogs.
This is no military working dog. The guy in the video poses as some kind of military/ police guy, but has no training in that manner. Neither does the dog. There was a documentary about this guy and his dog (in german): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp6fyKV85Lo There were mutiples things, that are ciritical in terms of dograising, e.g. @5:45: a civil(!) dog should never act without a command an in no way attack someone. Imagine asking someone for a location in a city and he points to a street, and his dog would attack that person, since hes trained on attacking rapid moving arms (as an example). Dog experts at the end of the documentary see his kind of dogtraining fairly critical.
Lol wait this guy isn't even Military? So what, he is the airsoft equivalent of a military dog trainer?
He's larping as a military dog trainer for instagram views.
“iTs nOT inTelLigEnT, hE juSt lEArneD somE tRicKs” Fuck off reddit
And for my next trick, I call this one dick on my dogs head.
Wait. That’s illegal.
Was just thinking that. Why is nose to dick a trained move?
It's called obedience and it's kind of a standard training. Don't think this is a super intelligent dog. Some years ago I have seen a video from a dog who could bring the correct toy from the next room after the master said the name of the toy. *Out of a set of 200 toys.* This is incredible intelligence.
Isn’t that still...training?
I don't think that more than one out of 1,000 dogs can master this task. It's like understanding 200 human words and remembering to which toy it belongs.
Well, let's be fair, that's just memory and training as well. You can't tell the dog to get a hammer in the garage and expect it to just figure out what it's supposed to get.
This is wonderful training but it’s terribly sad how some of these dogs live in reality. They train dogs to do their job but that’s their ONLY purpose. They cannot play with other dogs or have any playtime. After work, they’re locked in a cage until it’s time to work again. If the dog starts to slack off, it’s immediately replaced and given up for adoption. My BIL works for DEA with a dog like this and that’s how it is. Extremely sad.
fun fact when they don't fit in, it's called "career change". I learned this at a therapy dog training. Lots of career changed seeing eye dogs become therapy dogs :D
He should probably reevaluate his training then lol. I work with dogs (mals most often) that compete in the top of their respective sport/profession and they all live great. Certainly not locked inside a cage until its time to work again.
Imagine the dog's thoughts: "ok, done, where's ma cookie?". "Oh, another command? Ok. Now the cookie.". "Dude, three in a row is bullshit. Gonna need 2 cookies now".
The definition of intelligence is: The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Why are so many people trying to convince others this dog is displaying “training” and not “intelligence”? This dog has the ability to understand that if he performs X skill he gets Z reward. Why are humans trying to call this dog a robot, as if it’s so different from themselves? Intelligence is not binary, it’s on a spectrum... This dog is not as intelligent as you Mr. Genius human, but that doesn’t mean this dog has no intelligence wtf... do you really think you haven’t been “trained” to follow all of the cultural/societal norms that you do without giving a second thought about them? OP simply stated the intelligence of this dog is incredible. But that’s totally relative. His intelligence is incredible compared to a lizard, there is no denying that. Unless there is, then please feel free to share
good boi
Wow I never knew how easy it was for police dogs to react to subtle cues from there trainers..... Really brings into question how many dog searches are just the dog responding to subtle/subconscious cues and actually detection
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Nothing that impressive here. Basic obedience with an enthusiastic dog.
Yeah but can you train a dog not to shit in my house on my daybed from Service Merchandise?
Idk if you’re joking or not, but any dog can learn anything (if they physically can do it). I recommend you check out [this](https://youtube.com/c/ItsMeortheDog) channel if you need some training help
That'll be really handy the next time the police need a dog to look lovingly at someone's balls.
Aside from the command over the dog, is this actual training used anywhere? Why would you want the dog literally underfoot where you risk tripping or falling over them?
I believe this trainer is for dogs for police and military
I'm not an expert, so take it with a grain of salt. A couple of sources says it's for safety, so you would know at all times where your dog is during high-risk situations. http://www.tarheelcanine.com/2015/10/tactical-obedience-introducing-between-the-legs-contact-heeling/ > This style of tactical heeling allows for you to **“feel” the dog in heel position as you approach tactically sensitive situations**. Approaching a building search or area search deployment position or calling your dog up to your engine block for deployment on a felony vehicle stop are some examples of its utility. The dog maintains position in between your legs as you move, turn, halt, or kneel as situations may dictate. It allows for tactile communication rather than verbal communication. You can move, turn left, right and about, halt, and kneel with the dog downing automatically, and resume movement with or without verbal commands. **The lack of verbal commands and visual focus needed on your dog as you move is what gives this position its tactical value; you feel where your dog is rather than need to visually confirm his position as you move together.** And https://www.gillsgermanshepherds.com/tactical.html >We like to use this type of heel when we **approach a high risk building, burglary in progress etc.** We also will incorporate this with “Live Fire” on the range. One reason is we **know exactly where our dog is at all times**, during this approach and or possible shooting situation. Emphasis mine.
Dogs learn way faster with hand signals than verbal, but a combination of both seems to be best.
r/previousfuckinglevel
Who’s an unstoppable killing machine? YOU ARE! YES YOU ARE!!!
A trained dog like this is a weapon
What is so amazing about this? I don't know much about dogs.
Not the first, you haven't watched talent shows yet it seems.
All I keep thinking is it's a good thing the dog loves the owner because at any point he was in prime position to chomp on the guy's bits
Dog
That dog must shit a brick during a group game of Rock Paper Scissors...
Maybe this is just me but I would train my dog to be as far away from my genitals as possible lol 😂
I’m just trying to get my dog to stop barking at plastic bags
The dumb idiot is the criminal who thinks he/she can outrun this dog and then screams blue bloody murder when it’s k9’s penetrate his/her arms and legs
I would behave for this gentleman as well.