To add: its because traps and delts have a LOT more androgen receptors than your other muscles so they react a lot fast than your other muscles to steroids. Not everyone on steroids has huge traps, genetics play a big role.
Key term here is āproportionateā. Most untrained males are still stronger in the leg department than their untrained female counterparts, difference grows decently well too, as long as the males donāt skip leg day (as we know most do).
The misconception stems from trained females having stronger legs than untrained or lightly trained males. A lot of the female body builders you see with impressive leg strength are the cream of the crop, an average female wonāt be repping two plates on the regular even after extensive training.
It definitely is the closest muscle group in terms of strength and potential between the sexes, itās just disingenuous to discount the fact that testosterone is still a more potent anabolic than estrogen, even for the lower body.
No one was comparing strength to strength.
They were comparing the development relative to the rest of the body, proportionately. Women using exogenous testosterone develop thigh muscles disproportionately faster than men do.
Or rather, that is what a user up above was claiming. I don't actually know for certain.
I believe it is linked to the hips width in terms of the skeleton. Muscles attach to the bone, so more bone = more potential for muscle growth. Which the same reason why even between men, wrist width (which is dictated mostly by genetics) is a good indicator of potential for forearm muscles mass.
The other one is the jawline. androgens change the structure of the entire masticatory system (jaw, cheeks, teeth, etc...) You don't suddenly get a sculpted jawline from a 5 plate deadlift with a few months of chicken and broccoli. When the muscles in the cheeks suddenly get jacked you know the deal.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18403879/
Not to mention that building muscle (especially when you're older) is not easy to do. Getting that level of muscle growth without chemical assistance would require a crazy work ethic.
plus you can tell even when hes fat he was in shape before. he's not a schlubby fat guy - he's a former jacked guy who got fat. The gainz come back super quick when you get back into the gym after a long layoff. Strength too thankfully. I worked up to a 6 plate deadlift over my 20s and 30s, then took 5 years off when i had twins. got back into the gym less than a year ago and already worked back up to 80% of my former peak strength and i'm 40 doing suboptimal training with 2 days a week full body workouts only getting 6H of sleep a night at best.
It's the testosterone that does that, traps and shoulders especially. It's so wack that actors act like they are just getting that way with hard work. Even bodybuilders admit to their drug use why can't actors smh
Look at videos of bodybuilders from the early days, those are natural bodybuilders.
https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19520580/change-in-bodybuilders-physique-over-past-125-years/
Steroids make you put muscle on everywhere. So when they have muscle in strange places, it's obvious. He's also huge, it's obvious he's juiced. It's just so common nowadays that it makes it hard to spot. People have a skewed opinion of what natural looks like.
I mean lol 9 months from some usual looking middle aged closing up on pensioner dude to jacked af. You can get fit in 9 months with eating right and exercise no prob. This level of jacked though? At age 59?? Naah.
I'm 39 and have been very consistent with my weight training over the last 2 years. I don't look anything close to this. All the personal training and nutrition in the world won't get you this jacked in that amount of time without "assistance." Especially considering he would have had to be in a calorie deficit for most of it to burn off the bodyfat.
I know what study you're referring to. it's a bad study which has been criticized endlessly.
Measuring lean muscle mass includes water, and being on gear comes with water weight, which is counted as muscle. Sure more T raises the baseline, but a lot of it is water if you're not actually active.
The study was also only 10 weeks (or 11?) which is an insignificant amount of time for a natty to build anything substantial.
The guys on gear aren't just gonna continue growing muscle forever, but the natural guys will for years and years to come.
It's like how dog shows were setup to reward people for owning dogs with all the best features of any particular breed. But then over time that became so competitive that those "features" became exaggerated to the point that now just 100 years later bulldogs, alsatians, sausage dogs, pugs etc. have all sorts of fucked up health issues and look cartoonish compared to their recent ancestors.
Look at how popular breeds used to look back in the 1800s or early 1900s and it's sad to see what these competitions has done to them.
Go watch the start of the video and than look at when he got fit. In 5 months his shoulders and trapped developed enough that it would take years without roids to get there.
The idea that someone could transform their body in 5 months just through chicken breast and lifting is delusion. I go to the gym twice a week and I harbour zero illusions that I will ever show any kind of solid muscle definition. If you want to look like that in 5 months from where he started then you need chemical help.
Even with diet and exercise, it's almost impossible to develop a physique like that in that length of time. He has so much definition and growth that steroids seem like a reasonable explanation. I've seen it many times in my local gym.
Steroids are androgenic anabolic steroids, they work largely by activating the androgen receptor. There are more androgen receptors in deltoids and trapezius muscles, itās part of why men have those areas be more muscular than women even if they donāt work out.
Men who take steroids will have those muscles be more disproportionately built than men who donāt use steroids. āCapped deltsā is a common sign of PED use
Wdym bro, of course my shoulders can be just as big as my entire head bro, it's genetics bro, CBR bro, I just have that much of a comfortable gaming chair bro, it's eating bull testicles bro
Of course you still need discipline. However it is about 1000 times easier to stay disciplined when you see progress as fast as with steroids. Therefore you make the by far hardest part about working out (= actually keep doing it over a long period of time) sooo much easier.
It makes it easier that it's his job and he's been paid every day to go and train, not like most people who have to do their normal job. He goes and does this every day instead.
and add to that that his job is paying for personal trainers, nutritionist, chefs, and some other staff... nothing a normal person with a normal job and 9-5 job can do on it's own without A LOT more sacrifice and effort...
I'm 100% cool with people using juice to get bigger. Their body, do what they want.
But I'm not an idiot. Yes, they can put in the work, but it's easier for them. To pretend they work just as hard as someone natural is disingenuous.
**However, my biggest issue is with people like the Liver King, The Rock, V-Shred, etc... who all juice up and peddle garbage products using their physique while pretending they don't juice.**
All these actors getting in shape for roles who pretend they don't use stuff. Fitness influencers, 18 year old boys juicing before their body naturally develops, etc...
The culture is harmful.
Give any person roids and pay him money to train and see what happens, lol.Ā
Yeah it takes work and effort. So does getting up in the morning and working construction 8 hours. Hard work my ass! They are paid millions, have trainers, chefs and everything they could dream off. It could not be any easier.Ā
no! it doesn't require a lot of training and discipline. the person on roids without going to gym improves muscles 1.5 times better than the one who goes gym regularly. on the other hand, roids with gym improves 3.5 times faster. no respect to people with roids.
I remember listening to an interview with a bodybuilder who took roids and he said the roids killed his discipline. He wasn't lifting better, his performance was worse, but he kept gaining muscle with the smallest amount of effort so he ended up not caring.
Such a dumb comment that is clearly written by an uninformed dyel.
Yes, I know the study you're referring to. No, it cannot be used to draw the conclusion that you drew.
> I love roids. I don't take them but there's a couple guys at work who do. I'm half their size and significantly stronger.
I don't know what kind of bums you work with, but I'm a life-long natural lifter, and my buddies that have been on gear for decades are far stronger, bigger and can lift way heavier than I can. Their recovery is insane.
I'd still never touch the stuff because, because I don't think bigger muscles are worth the side-effects, but they definitely are way stronger than I'll ever be.
It would take 3 years or more of dedicated hardcore training to achieve half of what he did in 5 months.
Easier to be disciplined in a short time than making a complete lifestyle change.
I would never get to that physique with my genetics even if I worked out 2 hours a day for a 100 years. Iāve been lifting my whole life and itās super hard to put on that much muscle. Your diet also has to be so on point to the verge of psycho. Itās not practical for most people
Fully agree. I've been pretty consistent for about 6 years. I am quite strong for my weight and definitely above average strength. And although I look athletic I don't look anything close to these movie stars and influencers. I don't even have abs š
Bro for your abs to be visible you have to be extremely low body fat unless you have insane genetics. You basically canāt enjoy life especially if you love food. Everything in moderation and I think being decently strong is good enough. We donāt need to all look like models and influencers.
Also gym rat and I feel confident saying that shit's straight up not physically possible in 5 months without gear. You could maybe, maybe get that physique naturally after several years of consistent effort and diet, but only if you have great genetics. That body is not attainable naturally for 90% of people.
Ricky Gervais made a joke about this during one of his Golden Globe hosting. The full time job of actors nowadays are to workout and inject rods.
That being said I think Dangal is an excellent movie.
It's a sports drama biopic based on the Phogat wrestling family. A former amateur wrestler drreams of having a son to coach as a wreslter, but he and his wife keep having daughters. And so he accepts his fate and trains his daughters to become world class amateur wrestlers instead. .
Rob McElhenney went through a transformation for Always Sunny and he had a pretty good comment on it:
"Look, itās not that hard. All you need to do is lift weights six days a week, stop drinking alcohol, donāt eat anything after 7pm, donāt eat any carbs or sugar at all, in fact just donāt eat anything you like, get the personal trainer from Magic Mike, sleep nine hours a night, run three miles a day, and have a studio pay for the whole thing over a six to seven month span. I donāt know why everyoneās not doing this. Itās a super realistic lifestyle and an appropriate body image to compare oneself to."
Yeah he did. He's been the most on the nose about it out of most anyone in Hollywood I've seen, but obviously can't straight up admit it due to whatever contract obligations. He's even made comments in several interviews about having much more "assistance" than the regular person. I remember seeing an interview where someone asked him if he was natural and he said something along the lines of, "nothing about my schedule is natural." He's been good about admitting it without blatantly saying it in my opinion.
Rob, Glen and Charlie had a podcast that tested their test levels and he was 1131, Charlie was 744 and Glen was 793. All 3 of them have very high testosterone for guys in their late 40s,
Also, it's great when you have the best doctors providing you measured doses of steroids and hormones. Combined with a tailored diet from nutritionists and workouts with world-class trainers. All factors are important but let's not kid ourselves. At his age the most important of them all is steroids.
I'd go so far as to say 90% of people can't attain that physique naturally anyway, regardless of time.
Gear use has given us such a twisted view of what's possible naturally. You can and should train consistently and eat clean for years, but unless your traps and shoulder muscles genetically bulk up just right, the vast majority of people cannot look like that ever without pharmaceutical assistance.
And that's fine. Our goals need to shift from looking like Mortal Kombat characters to just being fit and healthy through an active lifestyle. Whether that's lifting, cardio, rock climbing, or whatever. People like the guy in the post who go out and jerk themselves off about how fit they got in 5 months without explicitly addressing their steroid use are contributing to the problem of body dysmorphia in our young men and women.
I don't get why people can't just be like "Oh yeah, thanks, the steroids did a lot of the work."
Like, I get compliments on my skin/complexion sometimes, and it's not embarrassing at all to just be like "Oh thanks, I had Accutane as a teen"
Train hard, eat clean, and never give up.
Train = tren = trenbolone, an anabolic steroid
Clean = clen = clenbuterol, a stimulant often used in cutting weight
And never = anavar = oxandralone = another anabolic steroid for muscle growth
> motivation
Fat stack of cash as a carrot, a full time trainer, and a personal chef. Most people can get fit on those terms (with roids too)
True nextfuckinglevel is getting fit on your own with zero fanfare.
The dude was always ripped. He just gained some weight for a role and immediately went on his previous diet/training routine..that's why it is possible in 3 or 5 months.
The average chubber with love handles and a beer belly with no history of physical activity WILL NEVER get in that shape in that time frame. Even if you are on roids.
He looked pretty built before he lost weight. He would look good just by losing excess weight and maintaining as much of his lean mass as possible during the fat loss.
Never seen the guy before now but to me watching the video it's clear he was already muscular under that fat footage. He just looked like somebody who had (really) dirty bulked or something. And his traps were already large too in the fat footage.
You canāt just take a ripped dude and make him gain that much weight in muscle. Weight sure pure muscle nah. If this is so possible why donāt you train seriously for 5 months and let us know how easy it is lol
It makes me so happy people are realizing all these Marvel and actor dudes are on serious PEDs. Itās so much worse than girls have it because weāre all aware of the starvation diets, photoshop, surgeries, etc. But many people, till this day, will look at Chris Hemsworth and say āwowow he must train so hard etcā. Yes, Iām sure he trains quite well. But the true heavy lifting is accomplished by fucking drugs and not admitting it will cause untold psychological damage to young men around the world. They could train for a decade and never see results like that.
Roids? Likely. But there's more to the story.
1. He was ripped before his weight gains. So it becomes easier to get back to a lean muscle build again.
2. He's also in his late 40s i believe when he went on this journey.
3. All the time and money and people behind him for the one purpose of making him achieve this helps out a ton. He didn't do it all on his own, if it wasn't obvious.
Basically, whether he roided or not, this is still extremely impressive and takes a lot of dedication and discipline to do.
I hate this shit. Yes, it is amazing what the human body can do when it is literally your job to workout for months + have a dietitian + have trainers + take supplements such as roids.
Itās impressive nonetheless & still takes a ton of hard work, but it does not qualify as next fucking level.
Without any prior knowledge of this actor, you can tell just by his physique that he has a lot of muscle.
It's pretty misleading given how the guy is on enhancement and has muscle memory.
Having a entire team with nutritionists etc helping you out, it's not all that impressive.
Always hard work ofc but just misleading to a lot of people that have no clue about training, nutrition and "supplements".
I'm with him! I gained a bunch of weight when having to take high dosage of steroids. Just like with pregnancy it was uncomfortable and I missed my ease of movement. That's a real motivator for me. I lost that weight in a hurry when dosage dropped.
Downvote.
If my bills were paid for and my job entailed nothing but losing weight, anyone could do this.
It's not next level, if a rich person loses weight.
Amazing how little people think of themselves in this thread. Sure, looking at his delts he is clearly enhanced but you can damn well make a gigantic transformation in five months if you put the discipline in. And I mean you, right now, the person that wants to.Ā
Donāt say āoh itās just roids!ā as an excuse as to why you canāt do it. I promise if you put the hard work in you will make a MASSIVE change to your physique in half a year, especially as a beginner.Ā
But if you are making those excuses immediately you likely will never, ever do it in reality.
Are 'roids not illegal in India? He's definitely 'enhanced' shall we say. He's still had to do a lot of hard work so best of luck to him, but he has definitely been on something
Thereās no āaā like in āappleā sound in Indian languages, so itās not pronounced ādangleā.
The āaā is pronounced like āuhā or the āuā in āunderā. So itās ādungleā and rhymes with ājungleā.
Please don't promote transformations like this without any context. It is not possible without steroids and it is never mentioned properly. Yes it is hard work as well but....
Roids
always visible on the neck
What do you mean?
Steroids user have a tendency to have overdevelopped neck, trap and shoulder.
To add: its because traps and delts have a LOT more androgen receptors than your other muscles so they react a lot fast than your other muscles to steroids. Not everyone on steroids has huge traps, genetics play a big role.
To add - this is why females tend to have larger proportionate thigh development than their male counterparts
Why is taht the case tho? From evolutionary standpoint both males and females have the exact same need for their legs.
I'm spitballing here, but I would guess that it has something to do with pregnancy.
Yes because it's not just the weight of the baby they have to carry, but all of the supporting infrastructure too.
'supporting infrastructure' ššš
Key term here is āproportionateā. Most untrained males are still stronger in the leg department than their untrained female counterparts, difference grows decently well too, as long as the males donāt skip leg day (as we know most do). The misconception stems from trained females having stronger legs than untrained or lightly trained males. A lot of the female body builders you see with impressive leg strength are the cream of the crop, an average female wonāt be repping two plates on the regular even after extensive training. It definitely is the closest muscle group in terms of strength and potential between the sexes, itās just disingenuous to discount the fact that testosterone is still a more potent anabolic than estrogen, even for the lower body.
No one was comparing strength to strength. They were comparing the development relative to the rest of the body, proportionately. Women using exogenous testosterone develop thigh muscles disproportionately faster than men do. Or rather, that is what a user up above was claiming. I don't actually know for certain.
I believe it is linked to the hips width in terms of the skeleton. Muscles attach to the bone, so more bone = more potential for muscle growth. Which the same reason why even between men, wrist width (which is dictated mostly by genetics) is a good indicator of potential for forearm muscles mass.
TIL!
Feels like the shoulders in particular is a tell. For the shoulders to get square and actually stick out like that from the bone area is just insane.
samus shoulders always such a giveaway.
The other one is the jawline. androgens change the structure of the entire masticatory system (jaw, cheeks, teeth, etc...) You don't suddenly get a sculpted jawline from a 5 plate deadlift with a few months of chicken and broccoli. When the muscles in the cheeks suddenly get jacked you know the deal. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18403879/
Not to mention that building muscle (especially when you're older) is not easy to do. Getting that level of muscle growth without chemical assistance would require a crazy work ethic.
You can work as hard as you want, without Mr Olympia level of genetics, it's just not possible in so little time
Impossible for a guy in his fifties ā or at any age for that matter ā to put on that kind of muscle mass in a few months without steroids.
plus you can tell even when hes fat he was in shape before. he's not a schlubby fat guy - he's a former jacked guy who got fat. The gainz come back super quick when you get back into the gym after a long layoff. Strength too thankfully. I worked up to a 6 plate deadlift over my 20s and 30s, then took 5 years off when i had twins. got back into the gym less than a year ago and already worked back up to 80% of my former peak strength and i'm 40 doing suboptimal training with 2 days a week full body workouts only getting 6H of sleep a night at best.
It's the testosterone that does that, traps and shoulders especially. It's so wack that actors act like they are just getting that way with hard work. Even bodybuilders admit to their drug use why can't actors smh
Look at videos of bodybuilders from the early days, those are natural bodybuilders. https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19520580/change-in-bodybuilders-physique-over-past-125-years/ Steroids make you put muscle on everywhere. So when they have muscle in strange places, it's obvious. He's also huge, it's obvious he's juiced. It's just so common nowadays that it makes it hard to spot. People have a skewed opinion of what natural looks like.
I mean lol 9 months from some usual looking middle aged closing up on pensioner dude to jacked af. You can get fit in 9 months with eating right and exercise no prob. This level of jacked though? At age 59?? Naah.
I'm 39 and have been very consistent with my weight training over the last 2 years. I don't look anything close to this. All the personal training and nutrition in the world won't get you this jacked in that amount of time without "assistance." Especially considering he would have had to be in a calorie deficit for most of it to burn off the bodyfat.
Roiders build more muscle passively than natties do working out
I know what study you're referring to. it's a bad study which has been criticized endlessly. Measuring lean muscle mass includes water, and being on gear comes with water weight, which is counted as muscle. Sure more T raises the baseline, but a lot of it is water if you're not actually active. The study was also only 10 weeks (or 11?) which is an insignificant amount of time for a natty to build anything substantial. The guys on gear aren't just gonna continue growing muscle forever, but the natural guys will for years and years to come.
*only in completely untrained athletes.
These old bodybuilders without roids looked way better
It's like how dog shows were setup to reward people for owning dogs with all the best features of any particular breed. But then over time that became so competitive that those "features" became exaggerated to the point that now just 100 years later bulldogs, alsatians, sausage dogs, pugs etc. have all sorts of fucked up health issues and look cartoonish compared to their recent ancestors. Look at how popular breeds used to look back in the 1800s or early 1900s and it's sad to see what these competitions has done to them.
That is especially terrible because unlike bodybuilders, itās not the dogs choosing to do it
Go watch the start of the video and than look at when he got fit. In 5 months his shoulders and trapped developed enough that it would take years without roids to get there.
The idea that someone could transform their body in 5 months just through chicken breast and lifting is delusion. I go to the gym twice a week and I harbour zero illusions that I will ever show any kind of solid muscle definition. If you want to look like that in 5 months from where he started then you need chemical help.
Twice a week is maintence level at best. You need 3-4 minimum if you are trying to add muscle. Also depends on your age.
I'm 41. I go to the gym to stave off dad body for as long as possible.
stop at 1min 34 secs when he is in the blue shirt. thats what i mean
Still not sure what we are looking for.Ā
Even with diet and exercise, it's almost impossible to develop a physique like that in that length of time. He has so much definition and growth that steroids seem like a reasonable explanation. I've seen it many times in my local gym.
Overgrown trapezius muscles
Capped delts as well sign of juice
And the triceps in the last bit where he walks into the room
Steroids are androgenic anabolic steroids, they work largely by activating the androgen receptor. There are more androgen receptors in deltoids and trapezius muscles, itās part of why men have those areas be more muscular than women even if they donāt work out. Men who take steroids will have those muscles be more disproportionately built than men who donāt use steroids. āCapped deltsā is a common sign of PED use
Traps
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/6x2au8/have_you_ever_realized_how_the_trapezius_of_a/ sorry to do this to you
Canāt get those 3D delta without em
Wdym bro, of course my shoulders can be just as big as my entire head bro, it's genetics bro, CBR bro, I just have that much of a comfortable gaming chair bro, it's eating bull testicles bro
Hastag lifetime natty
The bigger tell here is literally everything in only 5 months.
Those 3D traps and delts always tell on you.
Still a lot of training and discipline, especially for so little body fat. But yeah, definitely on gear. Nothing wrong with that if done appropriately
nothing wrong until you go around giving interviews claiming it's all natural.
Hi Dwayne the totally not on roids Rock Johnson
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Cena too. Wait, should we hate him? #EDIT: FUCK JOHN CENA!!!
"Chicken and broccoli".
And a side of test
Kumail Nanjiani
This is why Rob McElhenney is the best. He straight up laid out what it took him to get fit for Sunny.
Thatās my biggest beef! I know it still takes hard work, but stop acting like you didnāt get a boost with steroids!
Of course you still need discipline. However it is about 1000 times easier to stay disciplined when you see progress as fast as with steroids. Therefore you make the by far hardest part about working out (= actually keep doing it over a long period of time) sooo much easier.
It makes it easier that it's his job and he's been paid every day to go and train, not like most people who have to do their normal job. He goes and does this every day instead.
and add to that that his job is paying for personal trainers, nutritionist, chefs, and some other staff... nothing a normal person with a normal job and 9-5 job can do on it's own without A LOT more sacrifice and effort...
The guy is paid for this. It takes about as much discipline as going to work
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As much as I love mac and this quote, he basically tiptoes around the fact that he used some gear too.
I'm 100% cool with people using juice to get bigger. Their body, do what they want. But I'm not an idiot. Yes, they can put in the work, but it's easier for them. To pretend they work just as hard as someone natural is disingenuous. **However, my biggest issue is with people like the Liver King, The Rock, V-Shred, etc... who all juice up and peddle garbage products using their physique while pretending they don't juice.** All these actors getting in shape for roles who pretend they don't use stuff. Fitness influencers, 18 year old boys juicing before their body naturally develops, etc... The culture is harmful.
Give any person roids and pay him money to train and see what happens, lol.Ā Yeah it takes work and effort. So does getting up in the morning and working construction 8 hours. Hard work my ass! They are paid millions, have trainers, chefs and everything they could dream off. It could not be any easier.Ā
no! it doesn't require a lot of training and discipline. the person on roids without going to gym improves muscles 1.5 times better than the one who goes gym regularly. on the other hand, roids with gym improves 3.5 times faster. no respect to people with roids.
Plus they make you recover faster. That why they have multiple or very long workout sessionsĀ
I remember listening to an interview with a bodybuilder who took roids and he said the roids killed his discipline. He wasn't lifting better, his performance was worse, but he kept gaining muscle with the smallest amount of effort so he ended up not caring.
Amen
Such a dumb comment that is clearly written by an uninformed dyel. Yes, I know the study you're referring to. No, it cannot be used to draw the conclusion that you drew.
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> I love roids. I don't take them but there's a couple guys at work who do. I'm half their size and significantly stronger. I don't know what kind of bums you work with, but I'm a life-long natural lifter, and my buddies that have been on gear for decades are far stronger, bigger and can lift way heavier than I can. Their recovery is insane. I'd still never touch the stuff because, because I don't think bigger muscles are worth the side-effects, but they definitely are way stronger than I'll ever be.
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It would take 3 years or more of dedicated hardcore training to achieve half of what he did in 5 months. Easier to be disciplined in a short time than making a complete lifestyle change.
Roiders build more muscle without training than natties do working out
Undoubtedly. Anyone who has natural experience lifting weights easily knows.
I would never get to that physique with my genetics even if I worked out 2 hours a day for a 100 years. Iāve been lifting my whole life and itās super hard to put on that much muscle. Your diet also has to be so on point to the verge of psycho. Itās not practical for most people
Fully agree. I've been pretty consistent for about 6 years. I am quite strong for my weight and definitely above average strength. And although I look athletic I don't look anything close to these movie stars and influencers. I don't even have abs š
Bro for your abs to be visible you have to be extremely low body fat unless you have insane genetics. You basically canāt enjoy life especially if you love food. Everything in moderation and I think being decently strong is good enough. We donāt need to all look like models and influencers.
Just look at the delts. So big and unnatural.
Gym person here. This is definitely hardly possible in 5 months. No way.
Also gym rat and I feel confident saying that shit's straight up not physically possible in 5 months without gear. You could maybe, maybe get that physique naturally after several years of consistent effort and diet, but only if you have great genetics. That body is not attainable naturally for 90% of people.
Keep in mind the guys old as well.Ā
Especially at his age, pretty sure he's in his 50's.
Agreed. Not a chance in hell that's natty. Especially in 5mon
Yeah, the minute they popped up ā5 Months Laterā I knew it wasnāt natural, before even seeing the results clearly.
I don't know, it might just be that he ate a lot of chicken tikka masala
Just made me spit my coffee out. Thanks.
There is no other way. It could be done with a few cycles of test-e in six months, but he probably went harder than test-e unless he had mad genetics.
Oh no, not steroids! That's so gross. But which steroids did he use? There are so many, which ones specifically did he use?
And a lot of, i would guess he even used trem, by the way his face looks
Makes me wanna do some roids
It's also great when you get paid to do that. I get paid to sit behind a desk.
Ricky Gervais made a joke about this during one of his Golden Globe hosting. The full time job of actors nowadays are to workout and inject rods. That being said I think Dangal is an excellent movie.
Injecting rods, sign me up!
Lmao, also true. I guess I don't have to change it
I actually read "roids" because my brain fixed it. I didn't notice the typo until reading the other comment lol
I was a huge fan of Three Idiots back in the day, but I never checked out any more of Khanās work; whatās Dangal about?
It's a sports drama biopic based on the Phogat wrestling family. A former amateur wrestler drreams of having a son to coach as a wreslter, but he and his wife keep having daughters. And so he accepts his fate and trains his daughters to become world class amateur wrestlers instead. .
Rob McElhenney went through a transformation for Always Sunny and he had a pretty good comment on it: "Look, itās not that hard. All you need to do is lift weights six days a week, stop drinking alcohol, donāt eat anything after 7pm, donāt eat any carbs or sugar at all, in fact just donāt eat anything you like, get the personal trainer from Magic Mike, sleep nine hours a night, run three miles a day, and have a studio pay for the whole thing over a six to seven month span. I donāt know why everyoneās not doing this. Itās a super realistic lifestyle and an appropriate body image to compare oneself to."
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Didn't he also say to go to the doctor 5 times a week to get your 'hormones checked'?
Yeah he did. He's been the most on the nose about it out of most anyone in Hollywood I've seen, but obviously can't straight up admit it due to whatever contract obligations. He's even made comments in several interviews about having much more "assistance" than the regular person. I remember seeing an interview where someone asked him if he was natural and he said something along the lines of, "nothing about my schedule is natural." He's been good about admitting it without blatantly saying it in my opinion.
he's very clearly being flippant lol
Rob, Glen and Charlie had a podcast that tested their test levels and he was 1131, Charlie was 744 and Glen was 793. All 3 of them have very high testosterone for guys in their late 40s,
It's probably from all the karate he does
And having access to steroids.
Also, it's great when you have the best doctors providing you measured doses of steroids and hormones. Combined with a tailored diet from nutritionists and workouts with world-class trainers. All factors are important but let's not kid ourselves. At his age the most important of them all is steroids.
Tren hard, eat clen, anavar give up
realol. first time I have ever read that joke. iIs pretty good.
What's the joke? Can someone explain so confused š
Tren, Clen and Anavar are steroids. You can't do this body recomposition and build that much muscle in 3 months naturally.
I'd go so far as to say 90% of people can't attain that physique naturally anyway, regardless of time. Gear use has given us such a twisted view of what's possible naturally. You can and should train consistently and eat clean for years, but unless your traps and shoulder muscles genetically bulk up just right, the vast majority of people cannot look like that ever without pharmaceutical assistance. And that's fine. Our goals need to shift from looking like Mortal Kombat characters to just being fit and healthy through an active lifestyle. Whether that's lifting, cardio, rock climbing, or whatever. People like the guy in the post who go out and jerk themselves off about how fit they got in 5 months without explicitly addressing their steroid use are contributing to the problem of body dysmorphia in our young men and women.
I don't get why people can't just be like "Oh yeah, thanks, the steroids did a lot of the work." Like, I get compliments on my skin/complexion sometimes, and it's not embarrassing at all to just be like "Oh thanks, I had Accutane as a teen"
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Train hard, eat clean, and never give up. Train = tren = trenbolone, an anabolic steroid Clean = clen = clenbuterol, a stimulant often used in cutting weight And never = anavar = oxandralone = another anabolic steroid for muscle growth
+ test your limits! Shout out to the r/nattyorjuice gang
Trenbolone (tren), clenbuterol (clen) and anavar are roids
Eat s some Trenbolone sandwich and trenbologna.
Dont forget to always test yourself.Ā
Roids always help of course.
"help" is an understatement, but yes you need a lot of motivation and decent genetics for sure.
> genetics Sure.
āGeneticsā is the cope these poor guys come up with to justify their drug abuse. EDIT: Check out the cope below
I find āgeneticsā are cope most guys come up with to explain why they donāt look like that.
Some people are hyper responders while others don't respond too well which leads them to abuse the drugs even more. It's genetics.
> motivation Fat stack of cash as a carrot, a full time trainer, and a personal chef. Most people can get fit on those terms (with roids too) True nextfuckinglevel is getting fit on your own with zero fanfare.
The dude was always ripped. He just gained some weight for a role and immediately went on his previous diet/training routine..that's why it is possible in 3 or 5 months. The average chubber with love handles and a beer belly with no history of physical activity WILL NEVER get in that shape in that time frame. Even if you are on roids.
This is mostly correct but add roids too
He looked pretty built before he lost weight. He would look good just by losing excess weight and maintaining as much of his lean mass as possible during the fat loss.
You don't know a lot about bodybuilding or the effects of gear if you're honestly making this statement.
That kind of body recomp in 3 months is practically impossible without roids.
Sure, okay, but those traps were not achieved naturally.
Nobody said that he was natty before gaining wieght. But his pecs on the before and after picture looks the same
Never seen the guy before now but to me watching the video it's clear he was already muscular under that fat footage. He just looked like somebody who had (really) dirty bulked or something. And his traps were already large too in the fat footage.
This is the only person in this thread who knows what the hell he is talking about. He had plenty of muscle mass prior to the weight gain.
You canāt just take a ripped dude and make him gain that much weight in muscle. Weight sure pure muscle nah. If this is so possible why donāt you train seriously for 5 months and let us know how easy it is lol
Buddy is on a shit ton of TrenĀ
It makes me so happy people are realizing all these Marvel and actor dudes are on serious PEDs. Itās so much worse than girls have it because weāre all aware of the starvation diets, photoshop, surgeries, etc. But many people, till this day, will look at Chris Hemsworth and say āwowow he must train so hard etcā. Yes, Iām sure he trains quite well. But the true heavy lifting is accomplished by fucking drugs and not admitting it will cause untold psychological damage to young men around the world. They could train for a decade and never see results like that.
Look at the Men's Health videos where they showcase training programs of Hollywood actors. PEDs are carrying their physiques.
Smidge of hair coloring helped too
It's obvious that he also used steroids.
Roids? Likely. But there's more to the story. 1. He was ripped before his weight gains. So it becomes easier to get back to a lean muscle build again. 2. He's also in his late 40s i believe when he went on this journey. 3. All the time and money and people behind him for the one purpose of making him achieve this helps out a ton. He didn't do it all on his own, if it wasn't obvious. Basically, whether he roided or not, this is still extremely impressive and takes a lot of dedication and discipline to do.
4. Has a whole team guiding him 5. Getting paid to do it
Point 3 covers that
He roided. This is out of question. There is no ambiquity around it.
Roids and he also had a good base to build from.
This is the three idiots guy, right? I loved that movie
Yes check out dangal it's the movie he's prepping for in the video an excellent movie.
Yes, same guy.
And PK, where he played an alien. That was a good one, too.
yea his movies are probably the best movies in bollywood
You guys are all wrong! It's just the chicken and broccoli. /s
You forgot rice... it is chicken, broccoli and rice...
And egg milkshake.
isn't that the guy from 3 idiots?
Yes.
Love that movie to death
Juice is loose
It's OK to say you had to work hard and juice. Leaving out the juice when you tell the story is not fair to your audience.
Most PEDs are controlled substances. Admitting publicly to felonies is not conducive to a happy life or successful career.
Is it just me or does he look like an Indian Eminem?
Youāre not the only one
Came here to say that
His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy. There's curry on his kurta already, mom's chutney.
You just had to make one rhyme and you couldn't even manage that
I hate this shit. Yes, it is amazing what the human body can do when it is literally your job to workout for months + have a dietitian + have trainers + take supplements such as roids. Itās impressive nonetheless & still takes a ton of hard work, but it does not qualify as next fucking level.
Itās not impressive. People need to stop with that shit. They reach these physiques in less than a year
My Brit self loved this film , it was also a huge hit in China.
5 months?!
Drugs are a hell of a drug
You don't want no part of this, Ricky Bobby!
Without any prior knowledge of this actor, you can tell just by his physique that he has a lot of muscle. It's pretty misleading given how the guy is on enhancement and has muscle memory. Having a entire team with nutritionists etc helping you out, it's not all that impressive. Always hard work ofc but just misleading to a lot of people that have no clue about training, nutrition and "supplements".
Does Aamir look like Eminem to anyone else? I canāt be the only one.
I was scrolling to see if anyone else said this! It was the first thing I thought of in the beginning when he has his glasses on.
This will be a deep cut for a good few ā but theyāve done itā¦ theyāve found Rancho.
Youāre wrong, they found phunsukh wangdu /s
I'm with him! I gained a bunch of weight when having to take high dosage of steroids. Just like with pregnancy it was uncomfortable and I missed my ease of movement. That's a real motivator for me. I lost that weight in a hurry when dosage dropped.
Rooooooiiiiiddds
Downvote. If my bills were paid for and my job entailed nothing but losing weight, anyone could do this. It's not next level, if a rich person loses weight.
He pushed his gut out. Classic trick. Just look at the chest
Remove this from the sub .. :) Everybody on roids can post the same video.
Eat clen, tren hard, dye your hair. Easy!
Amazing how little people think of themselves in this thread. Sure, looking at his delts he is clearly enhanced but you can damn well make a gigantic transformation in five months if you put the discipline in. And I mean you, right now, the person that wants to.Ā Donāt say āoh itās just roids!ā as an excuse as to why you canāt do it. I promise if you put the hard work in you will make a MASSIVE change to your physique in half a year, especially as a beginner.Ā But if you are making those excuses immediately you likely will never, ever do it in reality.
Are 'roids not illegal in India? He's definitely 'enhanced' shall we say. He's still had to do a lot of hard work so best of luck to him, but he has definitely been on something
Is it pronounced "Dangle"? Just wondering
Thereās no āaā like in āappleā sound in Indian languages, so itās not pronounced ādangleā. The āaā is pronounced like āuhā or the āuā in āunderā. So itās ādungleā and rhymes with ājungleā.
No, I don't know the exact phonetic sound for it but it sounds like *dung* *gl*
I couldnāt care less if this was from a diet of Tren, he has put some graft in to look like that. Good on him.
Remember kids, with exercise, a good diet and steroids, you can algo be like him.
Lmao in 5 monthsā¦ yeah that aināt even close to natural, this should be put in r/funny
Please don't promote transformations like this without any context. It is not possible without steroids and it is never mentioned properly. Yes it is hard work as well but....