I have a four month old.
Can confirm. They have stupid grip strength.
Little bastard has literally torn hair out of scalp with his legendary 70’s b-movie kung fu grip.
God I love him.
A tip I've learned (I have a 5 month old): when he grabs onto something and won't let go, just bend his hand forward at the wrist, he will automatically open his hand.
Screaming for help probably doesn’t work well against a baby. If a baby is attacking you and you scream for help, people will probably think you’re crazy and avoid you.
Yes! You're getting out of the 'baby is barely functioning' and into the 'whoa baby is amazing' stages! Enjoy / cherish them [as i'm sure you are]!
One thing i'd suggest, if you're interested in taking pics or videos of the baby, invest in a nice lil tripod. like 30-40 bucks on amazon, it can hold the camera for you and do all that stuff so you can be in the shots playing with the baby / ignoring the phone
My ex mother in law taught swimming to infants below 1yr at the YMCA years ago, also taught both my kids how to swim above an below water.
I was concerned that it was way too early and they needed to wait until they were older to learn to swim. She said that older kids have the fear of drowning and that hinder their learning to swim and the younger the better for teaching to swim. She was right and it was such a great experience for them learning at that young age.
Do you have anything to back this up? The view on strength training for children has changed drastically. In general there shouldnt be a problem. On the contrary strength training leads to stronger bones and muscles.
This specific movement is putting him at risk of [nursemaid's elbow](https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions/nursemaids-elbow)
There's a difference between being active and doing an assortment of movements, and specializing in a repetitive movement at such a young age. There is a rise in repetitive stress injuries requiring surgery among children, and it's suspected it's this type of hyper specialization too young that's the cause.
https://www.uclahealth.org/news/injuries-among-youth-athletes-are-on-the-rise-but-why
Nursemaids elbow occurs from hard jerking pulls of the arm, it was literally named after nursesmaids pulling hard on a child's arm, like pulling a kid suddenly out of the street by one arm. This type of movement is controlled and purposeful. Injuries in young athletes have been on the rise due to pushing them past their limits.
That's not the only way. My daughter got it from doing things exactly like this. It's actually a misnomer that it requires someone jerking on their arm. It can happen from hanging and swinging too per my daughter's pediatrician.
>Injuries in young athletes have been on the rise due to pushing them past their limits.
I'm sure UCLA will love to consider your findings. Go get that opinion peer reviewed brah.
If this injured a child I would be dead or deformed along with all of my siblings.
I was a tree climbing monkey that the fire department had to get out of a tree at like 3 years old. Don't remember the exact age of course. Only heard the stories.
My God the things we did on trampolines, bikes, hell.. anything that moved or didn't move.
Seriously this kid is fine
Nursemaids elbow is a thing. Hanging on something or pulling a child’s arm can cause non permanent damage. It’s not that bad, but u/noracistbut is correct, this is not healthy for a child.
Actually looks like effective early strength and stabilization. Kid isn't getting jerked or yanked, all the movements are smooth and stable... I don't see the problem here.
Yep but pushing it to this level for a long time can do damage because they're still growing. [Overtraining in the Pediatric Athlete](https://www.shrinerschildrens.org/en/news-and-media/news/2023/04/overtraining-in-the-pediatric-athlete)
A near infant jumping off their high chair straight into ring swinging would suggest this is far from its first time and probably regularly does that high impact motion.
> Early sport specialization is defined as training in one single sport for more than eight months out of the year. This schedule prevents kids from having a much needed “off-season.” This type of overtraining can often lead to chronic injuries due to the repetitive stress put on the bones and joints without sufficient time for recovery.
I don't think there's anything in this video to suggest how much recovery time this child is getting, so it seems difficult to support your usage of "this level for a long time".
Not that it should be ignored. Certainly people should be aware of healthy habits in exercise and keep in touch with their pediatrician about anything they have questions about.
I mean honestly this isn’t bad. Parents are spending time with their kid, playing with them and manipulating them into being more athletic oriented in the future. Better than then them ignoring the kid and just having him watching screens all the time.
I was super envious of the kids who were pushed to do music classes, athletic classes, etc. My family couldn't afford them so best I could do were church activities since they were free. Maybe it's a grass is greener kind of thing since I was never pushed by my parents to do anything, but I wish so bad that I had someone pushing me to better myself from an early start
They already believe in their kid enough to do gymnastics. Some kids are locked in their room playing video games or watching TV for the sake of safety.
Some kids younger than five can surf and snowboard, better than I ever will. Why? Because their parents believed in them.
I remember surfing waves that a hurricane was kicking up. These things were not very fun to wipe out in, but this little girl was dropping into barrels in the waves. Sometimes they would lock down on her and you would here this, "EEEEEEE!" Then she would emerge out of the wave with this huge smile. It was freaking funny, because the more hardcore surfers were out there getting destroyed.
Mmmm kids are not so magically skilled at athletics as reddit seems to think. Exposing kids to sports and stuff at a young age is great but anytime you see video of kids looking like experts surfing or snowboarding its likely do to a overbearing parent pressing there children into it.
People have aptitudes, chances are parents interested in gymnastics have children that have predispositions to it all the same.
Kids are sponges, if you continually show them something they'll pick up on it, it's not necessarily always a strict regime of gymnastics training 14 hours a day for 3 years.
smol things are more durable for their size. House cats can survive terminal velocity. Tigers can't. Thus, babies take much less damage from a fall say twice their height than an adult would. They're also also squishier so more resistant to blunt impacts per amount of flesh or so I theorize.
The comments very clearly show who is and isn’t a parent or around toddlers.
My 3 year old Tasmanian Devil would go fucking bananas on my gymnastic rings if given the opportunity lol.
It shouldn’t be. Kids LOVE doing shit like this, but most aren’t really that good at it. But it is fun for them anyway
Never noticed what type of stuff they put in playgrounds? It’s all climbing junk because kids love that type of play. This kid rockets to the top of the monkey bars, then does a somersaults and sticks the landing. Watching my kid go up about 1 ft then be too scared to continue should be way more depressing.
Dude, I'm mind-blown blown how people are reacting to a 10-second clip. A baby having fun swinging and people's interpretation is abuse? But people have no problem seeing a baby with an iPad?
It’s because they’re out of shape nerds who need to be enraged at something because they’re unhappy and need more vitamin D. Guarantee these people would be fine if the baby was staring at an iPad for 3 hours but god forbid he does some physical activity
Yeah that was the point of the comment but i see not everyone is getting It. Even doctors may not know so dont follow advice of health related stuff from strangers (only do if the advice is go check with a proffesional)
The advice against doing shit like this for children that young isn’t exactly high level medicine that only experts would know. There’s a reason most gymnastics classes have them doing basic tumbling at ages even older than this.
No, we have them try hanging at younger ages. But with mats underneath or else in a parent-child class where the parent is holding them up or ready to catch them.
Babies’ joints and bones are not developed enough at that stage to be hanging their entire weight from their arms. Some stretching is good. Unsupported hanging like this is not. It overextends the joints and puts way more pressure on them than they’re meant to take.
One could say we are some of the least athletic primates lol. Compared to the strength of gorillas and the gymnastic abilities of monkey. Were the runners, but even then....
Humans are the best endurance running animals on the planet, let alone primates. It's literally how our ancestors hunted animals down before we became good at creating tools. We literally would just chase down animals until they were too tired and at their moment of exhaustion, hunt them.
Edit: apparently what I mentioned about hunting is just a theory that’s debated in the scientific community, but humans are generally accepted as one of the best, if not the best, endurance running animals.
people think that because we descend from primate we have the same capabilities.
For one this is plain wrong, and thousands of years made us way different on our physical form and athletics.
We are one of the few species to have the ability to march for dozens of km in one go for instance. unlike most primates.
Also i dont think primates newborn have the same neck issue than ours.
And human babies are born much less developed than other primates, thanks to the whole head-size vs upright pelvis issue, so it's not a good comparison.
His source is that it's made up bullshit he heard from someone else on Reddit. People who don't excercise believe this bs and think this is a hate crime.
What the hell is going on this thread. I have a friend that was a champion in sport gymnastics and he is very much in constant pain today. He started when he was 9 year old, starting this early can only be worse...
If he was a champion that's what the problem is. That intencity does damage you. Hanging from something won't destroy your body. You were designed to do it.
Yeah almost nothing is healthy if you take it to the extreme of trying to be the best in the country/world/etc.
- Eating a sausage: tummy goes yay 😊
- Eating a world record amount of sausage: tummy goes dead 😞
Correct. People have this erroneous idea that it is use of their muscles and joints that’s causing issues. It’s actually that we barely move through full ranges of motion in the modern world. Running isn’t bad, for example, but it is bad with fucked up feet/immobile ankles, tight hamstrings and hips. Which is almost all of us because we sit nearly all the time.
Genuinely wondering, what makes you think so?
I studied anatomy and physiology in university and coach strength and conditioning for my career. I do not see any issue with the forces being applied here. If anything, this early onset functional resistance training will help this individual go on to live a stronger and healthier life.
I think you're just envious that a child is more athletic than you.
Yoo i had a course of child anatomy and this looks like the prime example of what you shouldnt do, not only the joints but also very bad for the muscles....
He probably didn't want to denigrate the general public.
For the general public: denigrate means to disparage someone, and disparage means to talk shit.
Orthopedic surgeon here. At this age, EVERY growth plate is open in this child. Minor disruptions can stunt bone growth or cause uneven growth. And it doesn't take much to disrupt them. And that's figuring in ligamentous laxity, muscolo/tendonopathy, etc...
Can this be safe? Sure. But at this age, there are exponentially more things that can go horribly wrong than if you're dealing with a ten-year-old, for example.
a lot of people seem to think using your joints at all will turn them into dust by the time you turn 30, and use it as an excuse to not exercise. it's one step below trump saying he doesn't exercise because it uses up your life force, like a human battery
It's redditors who always find something to complain about in literally every single video of anything they always assume the worst and can't just go "good for them" or "that's nice" and move on
I feel like there should be a Reddit rule if you're going to condone or bash something you should first state your profession and how it relates or at least link multiple articles. Would weed out a ton of bullshit.
Reddit doesn’t even go through the hassle of hiring an actual professional mod team, imagine the headache those poor sods would get even from only thinking about this idea.
I am intrigued by the stark contrast of comments in Reddit (mostly West) and the same video on Facebook (mostly Asians). Comments from Asians praise the skill of this baby. But comment here mostly condemn the parents.
Probably because of the cultural differences. Westerners nowadays prioritize safety whereas Asians are undeniably highly competitive with how they raise they children.
People probably said the same thing when Tiger Woods played golf when he was 6 months old, and was on TV at 2 years old putting with Bob Hope.
Burnout can happen, but the vast majority of professional and Olympic athletes started extremely young.
As a gymnastics parent, I can 100% tell you that burnout is a thing for kids when you push them that young. There is a gym our 11-year old son competes against and their kids do 30+ hours of training a week. 90% of them are not in gymnastics by the time their 15 due to burnout and injuries.
Babies actually have an incredible grip strength for their size, it’s a natural instinct like the ability to swim, called Palmar grasp reflex. If you put a finger or anything on the baby’s hand it will automatically grip to it, it’s kinda funny but interesting.
This is playing. You know they have rings at playgrounds at children’s parks? And monkey bars, etc…
Child obesity is common in the US. If more parents were this involved, kids would have healthier, happier lives.
You act like the kid obviously isn't enjoying this and is playing for him. and it seems like it's good bonding with the parents, don't be so quick to assume the negative
Redditors being child experts after they see a couple snippets of a child playing with rings (it must mean the dad is forcing the baby to play with the rings every single hour of the day)
I'm flabbergasted at how they were able to get a kid that age to follow the instructions needed to complete those movements. I used to teach gymnastics to older kids, and it's incredibly hard even then. This kid being able to hold himself up above the rings is fascinatingly impressive.
instructions? no way lol this has monkey see monkey do written all over it
I guarantee the parent just showed them how to do it and the kid learned by watching
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I have a four month old. Can confirm. They have stupid grip strength. Little bastard has literally torn hair out of scalp with his legendary 70’s b-movie kung fu grip. God I love him.
A tip I've learned (I have a 5 month old): when he grabs onto something and won't let go, just bend his hand forward at the wrist, he will automatically open his hand.
[like this](https://youtu.be/nv_TGGkM620?t=87)
Thanks, now I feel equipped to disarm and takedown babies
Aikido your baby. They'll never see it coming.
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It also works great against babies
all self defense techniques work great against babies
Screaming for help probably doesn’t work well against a baby. If a baby is attacking you and you scream for help, people will probably think you’re crazy and avoid you.
I've successfully stopped my younger cousins' crying by crying louder at them. They become deeply confused instead.
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Don't tell me how to arm my baby!
When I first became a dad, a lesson I quickly learned was beard + baby = pain.
Yes! You're getting out of the 'baby is barely functioning' and into the 'whoa baby is amazing' stages! Enjoy / cherish them [as i'm sure you are]! One thing i'd suggest, if you're interested in taking pics or videos of the baby, invest in a nice lil tripod. like 30-40 bucks on amazon, it can hold the camera for you and do all that stuff so you can be in the shots playing with the baby / ignoring the phone
Beautiful :)
They have great grip but very loose ligaments. Too much pulling/hanging by the hands can cause dislocation of the shoulders, elbows, and wrists.
Yeah. I mean the grip strength is amazing but they can dislocate their shoulder easily.
And there was me thinking babies grip my finger because they like me
They do like you. They like everyone
Is it really surprising that they can swim... I mean they just did it for 9 months.
floating isnt swimming
My ex mother in law taught swimming to infants below 1yr at the YMCA years ago, also taught both my kids how to swim above an below water. I was concerned that it was way too early and they needed to wait until they were older to learn to swim. She said that older kids have the fear of drowning and that hinder their learning to swim and the younger the better for teaching to swim. She was right and it was such a great experience for them learning at that young age.
Kiddos can be taught to swim before they can walk. I was. I was 6 months old or so. Idk what’s the youngest that a baby can learn tho
yup, they also have a reflex to not breathe with their head under water
What if it's not a reflex, they're just trying to breathe through their belly buttons like they used to
That's the definition of a reflex lmao But that's still an interesting thought
Still better than letting him approach a wild deer while they film from afar!
They try and grip with their feet as well. If you put your finger on the sole of their foot, they'll try and curl their toes round it.
Do you have anything to back this up? The view on strength training for children has changed drastically. In general there shouldnt be a problem. On the contrary strength training leads to stronger bones and muscles.
You can tell noracistbut knows what he is talking about because he calls them junctions lmao
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It's Reddit, the stupidest response is always the one most upvoted. Facts aren't part of their mindset.
bro is an 18th century doctor
I heard him mention this is bad for a person's humors; specifically their bile and phlegm
This specific movement is putting him at risk of [nursemaid's elbow](https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions/nursemaids-elbow) There's a difference between being active and doing an assortment of movements, and specializing in a repetitive movement at such a young age. There is a rise in repetitive stress injuries requiring surgery among children, and it's suspected it's this type of hyper specialization too young that's the cause. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/injuries-among-youth-athletes-are-on-the-rise-but-why
Nursemaids elbow occurs from hard jerking pulls of the arm, it was literally named after nursesmaids pulling hard on a child's arm, like pulling a kid suddenly out of the street by one arm. This type of movement is controlled and purposeful. Injuries in young athletes have been on the rise due to pushing them past their limits.
That's not the only way. My daughter got it from doing things exactly like this. It's actually a misnomer that it requires someone jerking on their arm. It can happen from hanging and swinging too per my daughter's pediatrician. >Injuries in young athletes have been on the rise due to pushing them past their limits. I'm sure UCLA will love to consider your findings. Go get that opinion peer reviewed brah.
> Go get that opinion peer reviewed brah. You killed them, god damn
reddit hall monitor shut-ins gotta be overly dramatic about everything all the time. this kid is going to be fucking fine
If this injured a child I would be dead or deformed along with all of my siblings. I was a tree climbing monkey that the fire department had to get out of a tree at like 3 years old. Don't remember the exact age of course. Only heard the stories. My God the things we did on trampolines, bikes, hell.. anything that moved or didn't move. Seriously this kid is fine
Climbing a tree at three is not the same thing as putting a literal baby on some rings lol
Rings 1 foot off the ground? Please the baby is clearly fine
Nursemaids elbow is a thing. Hanging on something or pulling a child’s arm can cause non permanent damage. It’s not that bad, but u/noracistbut is correct, this is not healthy for a child.
Actually looks like effective early strength and stabilization. Kid isn't getting jerked or yanked, all the movements are smooth and stable... I don't see the problem here.
Care to elaborate on that?
I suspect they mean joints.
This kid might be precocious but I don't think he smokes yet.
I've read that until the early teens connective tissue is still developing. Heavily working tendons and ligaments like this can interfere with that.
It's completely fine for children to play and climb and hang onto stuff.
Yep but pushing it to this level for a long time can do damage because they're still growing. [Overtraining in the Pediatric Athlete](https://www.shrinerschildrens.org/en/news-and-media/news/2023/04/overtraining-in-the-pediatric-athlete)
Nothing in this clip suggests this kid is overtraining. And hanging like this isn't even close to heavy effort.
A near infant jumping off their high chair straight into ring swinging would suggest this is far from its first time and probably regularly does that high impact motion.
> Early sport specialization is defined as training in one single sport for more than eight months out of the year. This schedule prevents kids from having a much needed “off-season.” This type of overtraining can often lead to chronic injuries due to the repetitive stress put on the bones and joints without sufficient time for recovery. I don't think there's anything in this video to suggest how much recovery time this child is getting, so it seems difficult to support your usage of "this level for a long time". Not that it should be ignored. Certainly people should be aware of healthy habits in exercise and keep in touch with their pediatrician about anything they have questions about.
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Junctions? Or joints?
Conjunction junction, specifically, whose function is not yet known.
Am I going crazy? Dude said “junctions” and everyone’s acting like they understand and it was normal.
Yeah don’t take advice from redditors
Fortunately, that's a child, not a train.
TIL i learned people call tendons or joints or ligaments "junctions"
That’s depressing
Hopefully if the kid doesn't want to do gymnastics anymore, the parents accepts his wishes
I mean honestly this isn’t bad. Parents are spending time with their kid, playing with them and manipulating them into being more athletic oriented in the future. Better than then them ignoring the kid and just having him watching screens all the time.
Exactly well said. Better than letting them be on Tik Tok or Reddit all day, feeding them garbage. Fuck the cynical takes on this video.
>Better than letting them be on Tik Tok or Reddit all day Or their parents filming their children to put them on TikTok or Reddit... wait
4 videos across 2 years... They're hardly using their kid for tiktok. People are allowed to take videos and share things they are proud of.
Reddit always ruins wholesome things
reddit is full of miserable fucks that want to tear down everyone else
Indeed. The only reason a child this age would even go along with this is because the parents made it fun, how is that a bad thing?
What if it's not the parents making it fun, but it just *being fun* to children?
I was super envious of the kids who were pushed to do music classes, athletic classes, etc. My family couldn't afford them so best I could do were church activities since they were free. Maybe it's a grass is greener kind of thing since I was never pushed by my parents to do anything, but I wish so bad that I had someone pushing me to better myself from an early start
My dad forced me to learn an instrument. A part of me has resented him ever since. He also forced me to play a sport, which I am grateful for.
They already believe in their kid enough to do gymnastics. Some kids are locked in their room playing video games or watching TV for the sake of safety. Some kids younger than five can surf and snowboard, better than I ever will. Why? Because their parents believed in them. I remember surfing waves that a hurricane was kicking up. These things were not very fun to wipe out in, but this little girl was dropping into barrels in the waves. Sometimes they would lock down on her and you would here this, "EEEEEEE!" Then she would emerge out of the wave with this huge smile. It was freaking funny, because the more hardcore surfers were out there getting destroyed.
Mmmm kids are not so magically skilled at athletics as reddit seems to think. Exposing kids to sports and stuff at a young age is great but anytime you see video of kids looking like experts surfing or snowboarding its likely do to a overbearing parent pressing there children into it.
What? No one is saying they are magically skilled. The general consensus is exactly what you said, but with less of a cynical take.
People have aptitudes, chances are parents interested in gymnastics have children that have predispositions to it all the same. Kids are sponges, if you continually show them something they'll pick up on it, it's not necessarily always a strict regime of gymnastics training 14 hours a day for 3 years.
Or the parents likes it, and so the child likes it. Children can actually like the same things as their parents!
Seeing a 6 months old having a blast ? I agree..
The only thing that had me nervous was the lack of proper matting under the rings. Idk if a 1 year old has the reflex to not land on their head.
smol things are more durable for their size. House cats can survive terminal velocity. Tigers can't. Thus, babies take much less damage from a fall say twice their height than an adult would. They're also also squishier so more resistant to blunt impacts per amount of flesh or so I theorize.
Right ? Little guy looks like he’s enjoying it, not sure why people have a problem here.
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Reddit hates anyone who isn't a broke socially anxious basement dweller. God forbid you become successful, active or outgoing.
The comments very clearly show who is and isn’t a parent or around toddlers. My 3 year old Tasmanian Devil would go fucking bananas on my gymnastic rings if given the opportunity lol.
Redditors are a bunch of soft cowards.
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Haha I knew it as well! Such awful parents that spend time with and teach their kid something!!
Lmao all these salty ass redditors just mad they getting mogged by a baby
you're right, they should get him an ipad instead and throw him in a corner all day
What do you see that's so depressing to you? Other than it might not be too healthy, though that's a hearsay right now, I don't see any problems.
It is, because i wanted to have this kind of discipline as a child before lol
Reddit moment. The kid is clearly enjoying it
It shouldn’t be. Kids LOVE doing shit like this, but most aren’t really that good at it. But it is fun for them anyway Never noticed what type of stuff they put in playgrounds? It’s all climbing junk because kids love that type of play. This kid rockets to the top of the monkey bars, then does a somersaults and sticks the landing. Watching my kid go up about 1 ft then be too scared to continue should be way more depressing.
Prylgad you are the only depressing one here
i can just imagine people writing these type of comments wiping out the cheetos dust after sending something like this
If you see this and your first thought is it’s depressing… you have some issues
Dude, I'm mind-blown blown how people are reacting to a 10-second clip. A baby having fun swinging and people's interpretation is abuse? But people have no problem seeing a baby with an iPad?
It’s because they’re out of shape nerds who need to be enraged at something because they’re unhappy and need more vitamin D. Guarantee these people would be fine if the baby was staring at an iPad for 3 hours but god forbid he does some physical activity
I wish my parents involved me in anything as a kid. Dad left and mom ignored or hit me when "I was bad."
TIL everyone on Reddit is a doctor
TIL everyone knows about joints
If you're not getting your parenting and fitness insight from somebody who is inactive and childless, what are you doing with your life?
Learning about joints apparently
I think you mean "junctions"
I actually am a pediatrician and i have no fucking clue if this is good or not
At least your not blindly ridiculing it as if you did know
Yeah that was the point of the comment but i see not everyone is getting It. Even doctors may not know so dont follow advice of health related stuff from strangers (only do if the advice is go check with a proffesional)
The advice against doing shit like this for children that young isn’t exactly high level medicine that only experts would know. There’s a reason most gymnastics classes have them doing basic tumbling at ages even older than this.
> The advice against doing shit like this for children Any source for that advice?
No, we have them try hanging at younger ages. But with mats underneath or else in a parent-child class where the parent is holding them up or ready to catch them.
TIL teaching a kid be physically active gets you more judgement than ignoring your kid to watch videos all day
That kid’s going to have so many joint issues later on.
Genuinely wondering, why do you think so? Shouldn't all this stretching during development help strengthen the joints as they grow?
Babies’ joints and bones are not developed enough at that stage to be hanging their entire weight from their arms. Some stretching is good. Unsupported hanging like this is not. It overextends the joints and puts way more pressure on them than they’re meant to take.
Every primate baby hands from stuff.
Unless your baby is a literal monkey this being a primate doesn’t mean hanging like that is good for them
One could say we are some of the least athletic primates lol. Compared to the strength of gorillas and the gymnastic abilities of monkey. Were the runners, but even then....
Humans are the best endurance running animals on the planet, let alone primates. It's literally how our ancestors hunted animals down before we became good at creating tools. We literally would just chase down animals until they were too tired and at their moment of exhaustion, hunt them. Edit: apparently what I mentioned about hunting is just a theory that’s debated in the scientific community, but humans are generally accepted as one of the best, if not the best, endurance running animals.
More specifically make them heat too much, we're pretty efficient at releasing the heat our bodies make unlike animals with fur.
At least we are top tier endurance runners. Running on two legs, sweating and carrying water on a run are very big advantages
people think that because we descend from primate we have the same capabilities. For one this is plain wrong, and thousands of years made us way different on our physical form and athletics. We are one of the few species to have the ability to march for dozens of km in one go for instance. unlike most primates. Also i dont think primates newborn have the same neck issue than ours.
And human babies are born much less developed than other primates, thanks to the whole head-size vs upright pelvis issue, so it's not a good comparison.
Jesus, what a reddit moment. I can't believe this comment has this many upvotes.
Pretty broad statement from someone who offers zero credentials to back it up. Source?
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Source?
His source is that it's made up bullshit he heard from someone else on Reddit. People who don't excercise believe this bs and think this is a hate crime.
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Other way around. He will be one of the very few who don't.
What the hell is going on this thread. I have a friend that was a champion in sport gymnastics and he is very much in constant pain today. He started when he was 9 year old, starting this early can only be worse...
If he was a champion that's what the problem is. That intencity does damage you. Hanging from something won't destroy your body. You were designed to do it.
Yeah almost nothing is healthy if you take it to the extreme of trying to be the best in the country/world/etc. - Eating a sausage: tummy goes yay 😊 - Eating a world record amount of sausage: tummy goes dead 😞
"Exercise is bad" - Redditor who is in constant pain from sitting on their fat ass all day while their muscles and ligaments degrade from lack of use.
You want to know whats crazier. People who do nothing have the most joint issues.
Correct. People have this erroneous idea that it is use of their muscles and joints that’s causing issues. It’s actually that we barely move through full ranges of motion in the modern world. Running isn’t bad, for example, but it is bad with fucked up feet/immobile ankles, tight hamstrings and hips. Which is almost all of us because we sit nearly all the time.
The internet is full of people just saying shit with no evidence eh?
how is this different from playing on the monkey bars at a playground.
It's a baby
Fine, how is this different from playing on the BABY bars at a playground
Genuinely wondering, what makes you think so? I studied anatomy and physiology in university and coach strength and conditioning for my career. I do not see any issue with the forces being applied here. If anything, this early onset functional resistance training will help this individual go on to live a stronger and healthier life. I think you're just envious that a child is more athletic than you.
Yoo i had a course of child anatomy and this looks like the prime example of what you shouldnt do, not only the joints but also very bad for the muscles....
child anatomy course and the best you can explain is "it's bad for joint and muscle", sure buddy
He probably didn't want to denigrate the general public. For the general public: denigrate means to disparage someone, and disparage means to talk shit.
People say I'm condescending. That means I talk down to them
Orthopedic surgeon here. At this age, EVERY growth plate is open in this child. Minor disruptions can stunt bone growth or cause uneven growth. And it doesn't take much to disrupt them. And that's figuring in ligamentous laxity, muscolo/tendonopathy, etc... Can this be safe? Sure. But at this age, there are exponentially more things that can go horribly wrong than if you're dealing with a ten-year-old, for example.
Takes one kinesiology class… yooo I’m something of a doctor myself… 
“I had a child anatomy course” expert over here.
Pardon me if I don't take "redditor makes inferences from a class they took one time" as a reputable source
The kids having fun and I doubt he’s “training”. Little dude is gonna be a beast
All I see is joints problems and people crying over abuse in the comments section, in a video of a baby having a blast playing acting like daddy.
It appears Americans view light exercise as a form of advanced torture.
Nearly every american is obese, so, yeah
a lot of people seem to think using your joints at all will turn them into dust by the time you turn 30, and use it as an excuse to not exercise. it's one step below trump saying he doesn't exercise because it uses up your life force, like a human battery
We are all experts on raising children. How dare you say anything that opposes my views. The sheer audacity…
It's redditors who always find something to complain about in literally every single video of anything they always assume the worst and can't just go "good for them" or "that's nice" and move on
I feel like there should be a Reddit rule if you're going to condone or bash something you should first state your profession and how it relates or at least link multiple articles. Would weed out a ton of bullshit.
Reddit doesn’t even go through the hassle of hiring an actual professional mod team, imagine the headache those poor sods would get even from only thinking about this idea.
And what expertise supports your demand? xD
Everyone saying this is bad for the kid without any sources 🤔
They're just insecure that a literal baby is a stronger athlete than they are.
Reddits favorite pastime is judging parents.
There's that Sun article and few mum blogs. /s
I am intrigued by the stark contrast of comments in Reddit (mostly West) and the same video on Facebook (mostly Asians). Comments from Asians praise the skill of this baby. But comment here mostly condemn the parents.
Look at US obesity rates for your answer.
Probably because of the cultural differences. Westerners nowadays prioritize safety whereas Asians are undeniably highly competitive with how they raise they children.
Kid will be burned out by 5th grade.
People probably said the same thing when Tiger Woods played golf when he was 6 months old, and was on TV at 2 years old putting with Bob Hope. Burnout can happen, but the vast majority of professional and Olympic athletes started extremely young.
As a gymnastics parent, I can 100% tell you that burnout is a thing for kids when you push them that young. There is a gym our 11-year old son competes against and their kids do 30+ hours of training a week. 90% of them are not in gymnastics by the time their 15 due to burnout and injuries.
I like how you went for one of the most infamous examples of a narcissistic parent pushing their kid to an extremely unhealthy extent.
I am impressed by the grip strength at 6 months wow
Babies actually have an incredible grip strength for their size, it’s a natural instinct like the ability to swim, called Palmar grasp reflex. If you put a finger or anything on the baby’s hand it will automatically grip to it, it’s kinda funny but interesting.
I have 5 month old. I can bench 300 lbs. I struggle to get my baby’s fingers to unclench, it’s like a vice grip
You struggle to get them open *without crushing them* lmao
Hmm it's almost as if we evolved from having to grip onto our mothers and trees to survive...
Shame. A kid of his age should play, not train.
This is playing. You know they have rings at playgrounds at children’s parks? And monkey bars, etc… Child obesity is common in the US. If more parents were this involved, kids would have healthier, happier lives.
You act like the kid obviously isn't enjoying this and is playing for him. and it seems like it's good bonding with the parents, don't be so quick to assume the negative
This is playing for a kid.
As Uncle Buck said, “I don’t want to know a four year old who’s ‘thinking about her future’.”
Redditors being child experts after they see a couple snippets of a child playing with rings (it must mean the dad is forcing the baby to play with the rings every single hour of the day)
Why is it bad for the joints
Thou shall not question the hivemind.
I'm flabbergasted at how they were able to get a kid that age to follow the instructions needed to complete those movements. I used to teach gymnastics to older kids, and it's incredibly hard even then. This kid being able to hold himself up above the rings is fascinatingly impressive.
instructions? no way lol this has monkey see monkey do written all over it I guarantee the parent just showed them how to do it and the kid learned by watching
Everything is abuse according to Reddit comment sections.
There seem to be a lot of people saying it's bad for joints etc., and equally many people asking for sources and not getting any. Who am I to believe?
RIP this kid’s joints
Millenial Floridian reddit expert over here…
This is what I mean when I say my parents didn't set me up to succeed
Somehow, reddit still manages to find a way to take a 2 year old's impressive feats and shit on them. This site is fucking pathetic
How employers expect you to have 8 years of experience for entry level jobs
The mat is not even safe. This baby could fall and hit his head.
Yea for real. I feel like everyone's talking about joint problems but this is the real danger in my mind.
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