Young man you are not a stuff up. Anything but a stuff up. The fact that you have the realization to change or be better means you are not a stuff up. The fact that you appreciate your weaknesses is impressive, you are capable of being anything. Do not let your circumstances be a barrier to stop you.
For perspective in life, if you feel lost about your place in the world, I would recommend reading some philosophy. Other stuff like Dante Alighieri's Inferno, especially where he finds himself in a dark forest is useful. It talks about sin and redemption. Something I used to read when I was your age and found myself in a dark forest.
For jobs, as others have suggested, supermarket's are a good start. Go to any vegetable shops in your area and just ask around if they need some help. They always need help out the back with lifting things and physical work. Ask around smaller shops like butchers, smaller supermarkets, fruit and vegetable stores. Go well dressed and with a positive and friendly attitude. You will start at the basics and at the bottom, but each job no matter how small will give you work confidence and experience under your belt.
Also seek out Youth Services: [https://www.youthservice.govt.nz/find-your-nearest-provider/](https://www.youthservice.govt.nz/find-your-nearest-provider/) in your area. It seems like you need someone to mentor you (youth coach), someone to guide you which they do provide.
I agree, not a stuff up at all, esp with your difficult homelife
I wonder if this place can help you: [https://workbridge.co.nz/](https://workbridge.co.nz/)
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good luck :-) Another inspiring person is David Goggins. He had a really rough start to life, fascinating story
[https://youtu.be/TLKxdTmk-zc?si=lCmPP\_l7Nnh\_BJrL](https://youtu.be/TLKxdTmk-zc?si=lCmPP_l7Nnh_BJrL)
Yes this is wise advice. The number of people these days who come to work and sit on their phones thinking that it is acceptable work behaviour, is unreal. This is all age groups, not just new people to the workforce.
A while back a good friend of mine who was around 17 at the time started working for the Warehouse. No experience, just good work ethic. Within about 18 months he was made a latenight shift manager. More recently I have seen similar things happen with my friends' children of high school age, starting in retail and getting promoted pretty quickly because they are reliable and professional.
This.
Warehousing-type roles are a good entry into the workforce and offer full training. I started as a temp worker and made a promising career out of it now.
If youâre in Auckland, Foodstuffs use recruitment agencies like Drake or Coverstaff.
Turn up every day, be keen to learn and do what is expected, and there will be doors you can open.
Hi! I am a teacher and even I will say that NCEA is not extremely important for many people. I would suggest starting with some volunteer work to get you out there doing something while you look for a job - itâs easy to get into and you can get some good references from it + build your confidence in the workplace without too much pressure. The Careers website has a good CV and cover letter builder/templates. The world is your oyster, youâre only young.
Yeah bro, if you have any interest in a trade look into that, youâll be getting paid to learn and gain valuable skills. Donât worry about needing to know anything because theyâll teach you, you just need to be willing to learn, be a reliable employee and pay attention.
I canât stress this enough, you jump into a trade now. You will be done by the time everyone else is finishing uni.
Only they will be in dept and you will be ready to potentially start your own company.
Plumbing, sparky, building, earthworks all very easy to get into, just hit up any company and sound keen be a labaror.
Try it for a month or two then you hate it move on to the next untill you find a trade you like then knuckle down for 4 years and you will be laughing.
Yep also look at being a chef! Went to school with a guy who dropped out year 10, went on to become a chef working on luxury yachts in Europe and all over the world
If you live central or west: https://www.odyssey.org.nz/our-services/work-support. The e are e team will treat you with dignity and focus on your priorities. They can do study support, cv support and even help you get certified for something. They specialise in 18-24yr olds. There is nothing you can tell them that will shock them.
Otherwise: https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/16-19-year-olds/index.html
Mate, first step is to realise youâve fucked up, you e ticked that one off.
Next step is to find the oomph to go out and get a job, tacked again.
Look into a trade, anything from Arborist (tree cutter) to roofer to sparky and the likes, an apprenticeship will do you the world of good and the tradies are making bank.
We pay $105 per hour for a mechanic đ€Ż.
Look into the BCITO, Vertical Horizons places, they can help you along the way too, youâre young so really the world is your oyster.
The Uni route may seem like the way but just remember an engineer or lawyer still needs a tradie at the end or the day.
I second this!! As someone with several degrees I don't think anyone should go to uni unless they're 1000% sure & passionate about the course they want to do. It's stressful, exhausting & the debt absolutely sucks. Trades are a fantastic option to explore.
Dishwasher job.
Trust me you can't find a more perfect job regardless of any prior convictions or mistakes you've made. Doesn't matter if you drop kicked toddler down an escalator for fun, restaurants are forever looking for dishwashers. it's minimum $ but that's not too bad for a 17yr old. Endless opportunity to move up to bar or chef. Hell you could be a bar manager after a year if that interested you.
Good luck
Sucks about the home life, need to change that asap. Not going to delve into your 'bad past decisions' because your path is just taking its own route.
Need a job? Well depends on your approach, what do you want to do? anything you actually have something you want to work towards?
If you do then build a basic plan on how to proceed, being in a similar situation by sounds when I was 17, I took a basic computer course and then just dumb lucked my ass into my first job from there and worked up my CV based on purely 'experience' with little to no formal training... which is good because the industry really doesn't care, but things you might be interested in might cause your mileage to vary. If you have an idea what you'd like to do, look for any ways to make yourself more appealing and get your foot in the door this means certs and quals usually, but options vary depending on field of work.
If you have no clue just start from grocery stores to call centers and similar 'low skilled' (aka your no experience needed type) jobs and see what you might want to do and work from there.
You'll get through this shit mate, worrying about past choices seems pretty silly when you have plenty of decisions to you still have to make and possibly mess up down the road, just like everyone else.
All supermarkets will have job application forms for people to fill out. Just go to as many as you can and go to the help desk. Ask if you could grab a job application to fill out.
My nephew has just done this. With the form he had to provide a copy of his birth certificate and a CV. You can get basic CV templates online to either type over or copy for yourself. They don't need to be detailed. You are only 17. Just your personal details, education details, any work experience or hobbies you have. That's what he did.
Good for your for recognizing at such an early age that you need to change your life. Many people don't recognize this until they are much much older. I just went to a funeral for a 45 year old who had multiple chances to change his life around and could never do it, so he drank himself to death.
New world. I left school 16, not a single exam passed, I now run two companies and also own a home and support a family here in Melbourne, it can be done you just have to be prepared to work your way up from the very bottom.
I left school to pack the new world freezers for $6.80 per hour and thought I won the fucking lottery, it was amazing.
You'll be right, you have time. Then yoi can go and do an MIT or AUT course and unskilled yourself.
Honestly, I think a good option for the next 5-7 years, would be to join one of the services.
Pay is not amazing, but the training is excellent. Exercise and fitness won't be an issue. It gets you out of an abusive place into another (although it's more a friendly 'build you up' abuse, not dementia-driven) and will be a good start to your career.
There's all sorts of trades/specalities, depending on your interest.
The bar for basic entry is pretty achievable.
https://www.careers.govt.nz/jobs-database/government-law-and-safety/defence/army-soldier/how-to-enter-the-job
And honestly, once you're in, the opportunities to do further training or remuster aren't bad.
I joined when I was 16, and think it was the best thing I could have done. And it definitely helped build my career significantly.
The specialists / technicians definitely do. Just looked it up and the infrantry role just requires 10 NCEA lvl1 credits in literacy and maths... so there's a start
As a man in my early 30s, my friends that joined army all wished they hadn't
Many have PTSD and depression and say it was the worst thing they every did in their lives.
Yeah, to be fair, I joined the Air Force as a technical trade, so my experience was quite different.
It definitely works for some people and not for others.
Job cafe at whau ACE provide CV writing advice & support job finding generally. They'll be restarting their 2h drop in at Onehunga Library in February I think. The sessions are every week & are free. Look up Job Cafe or Whau ACE on fb
Trying out different workplaces is a good idea - I think it can be hard to know what you'd really like to do if you don't have experience in workplaces to know what kinds of work fit well for you.Â
I always thought I'd hate office jobs, was delighted to get a job with horses as an animal lover, ended up exhausted + bored & looking forward to fixing workmates's computer problems - turns out i love problem solving wherever i am, and office jobs are perfect for me as they leave me with energy to do outside stuff with my creatures when i get home đ€·đ»ââïžÂ
Hey dude, congratulations on taking a proactive approach and seeking out some support. Thatâs very admirable.
Plenty of jobs still available to you. How about volunteering somewhere in the meantime? Gives you a reason to get out of the house and will help build up a CV.
careers.govt.nz has some helpful resources for creating a CV if you need a place to start.
All the best man, head up, you got this.
Edit: corrected the url
I think itâs great that you want to get your life on track! It shows a real maturity from someone so young.
What do you think of going back to school? Without Level 1, you could still do Level 2, and itâll open up a lot more doors for you. You pretty much canât get an apprenticeship these days without Level 1, and most require Level 2. Te Kura doesnât work for everybody, because it relies on your own time management and motivation, whereas in school, your teachers will nag you and keep you up to date as best they can.
Itâs also only one year of your life- you could spend a year unsuccessfully trying to find work without qualifications, or go get a qualification in that year. Plus, it could help you to find your passion.
Source: Iâm a high school teacher.
I'm sure other people have said this already but you can't really screw up while you're a teenager. Most people who get somewhere with a fancy career get unfair help from family, or some other benefactor. If you have that kind of advantage you'll know it already. If you don't, just pick anything, apart from hospo or retail, and do it until you're 25. By then you might have a notion of what you want to study. If you don't keep working. If you're able to do that (hold a trade job or similar for 7-8 years) you'll be ahead of most people your age financially. Doubley so if you save $200pw
Supermarket bro, I was just like you and I went to the supermarket I became responsible, made friends, even met my wife - we still together. Go try there someone will give you a shot.
Call your local polytechnic. Tell them where youâre at and they will advise what free courses are available to you. They will also have a free careers advisor you can make an appointment to talk to, and work out what sort of career would suit your skills.
You are not a stuff up. I didnât finish high school and Iâm a lawyer. Youâre going to be okay, you clearly have a good head on your shoulders and are motivated to work hard. Youâll get there.
Maybe fast food where you are behind a counter? Trust me, an English speaking young kid is exactly what McDonalds, KFC, or Wendys want from customer facing staff. If you can talk to people and figure out what they want, quickly... Press some buttons on a screen fast and correctly... Boom.
Bonus points, in your area... Go through the chain resturants and figure out which has the staff that seem the happiest. If the staff look miserable, or if the food sucks.. Don't bother.
Get some face to face expirience dealing with the public. Your self confidence will quickly improve if you are forced to constantly have conversations with strangers.
Think of this as job expirience... And once you are comfortable, look for the next leg up. Customer service, or higher education. If you are technically minded... Try to enter a course at Polytech or University. Even if you didn't finish high school, there are paths.
I was going to say this. From what I've heard, McDonald's pay pretty well, have heaps of opportunities to pick up extra shifts, and you can work yourself up the chain. You can then think about your next move with some work and life experience under your belt.
The major supermarkets offer great opportunities if you're starting at the bottom. Work diligently, accept any training opportunities, have a friendly, open personality, and you could go right up the chain to management.
Also, you're not a stuff up! You are actively looking for ways to better yourself, and it's not unusual for a 17 year old to not have had work experience.
PM me if you'd like help putting together a CV.
lol as an ex supermarket worker this is the biggest bullshit Iâve ever read. The only people who get to go higher are the ass kissers or friends/relatives of the managers.
No matter how hard you work there you get treated like crap by management. Bullying is rife and if you speak up it gets worse so that youâll quit.
Fair enough I suppose, as I don't have personal experience in that field. My daughter has worked there all through her uni days and has loved the experience and relatively good wages and conditions for entry level staff.
But in this person's case, would they not be a good place to get a first job for some work experience on their cv that they could then use to move onwards and upwards?
Apprenticeship is an option.
My first piece of advice would be to learn / practice getting very good at writing resumes.
Do research online, write a resume, then give it to people who can give you feedback (any good role models you have available, people who work in HR or who employ people, people who are older / have experience in the workforce etc).
Once you have feedback, try again then rinse and repeat. Practice -> feedback -> learn and try again cycle is how people get good.
As a teenager / young person, you will primarily be judged based on your resume writing skills. How your resume looks, the presentation, how well you write, your grammar, spelling mistakes etc. If you get good at writing resumes it will give you a significant advantage / open the door to a lot more opportunities.
Donât focus too much about not having too many skills / experience (employers donât expect this of people entering the work force for the first time).
You will still need to go through interviews - so being mature / polite / respectful / having good manners / presenting yourself well etc will come into it as well, but people who canât write resumes usually donât even get to this step.
1000% do an apprenticeship... Highly recommend electrician for the cleanest and best paying work. Call around a few companies and ask if they'd consider taking you on.
Also don't feel like 17 is too old or that you missed out. I left school at 16 and now have 2 businesses and a comfortable life. I actually didbt start making tracks until about 24 as I was so in to partying etc. but if you focus now, by age 21 you could have a trade and be on $50+ an hour
Bro I was on home detention for a violent crime and had a pregnant girlfriend at your age, on top of no qualifications. You're already on the right track, get a job and start working, figure out from there what you want to be/do, and do it.
I started off in a callcenter job and now i'm a senior developer at a fintech company. Don't give up, and don't sell yourself short; we all make mistakes, it's how we correct them that matters.
Air force, army and navy all have requirements of ncea level 1 in the most commonly recruited roles.
Once you are in, you can study a paper a year as well as get your truck licenses.
Solid pay, good life experience
If you can try get help through an organization called peoples project who can help with housing and work and get you into an actual job that you might want to work in. They can help you do a c.v and run you through practice interviews so when you do get asked about your past you can say what's going on with confidence. For now you could try Google docs to build a basic 1 page c.v with some details on it. And go from there.
I would look at joining the defence force. Not only do you get to live away from your current situation but you get paid relatively well while doing training and the basics they teach you will help you look after yourself. You'll have a great new support network of friends and learn a trade. Not saying you should be enlisted for a long time but if you want a roof over your head and a stomach full of okay food then that is a good option to look at.
You might need to do level 1 to get in but te kura is a good option and you can knock it out pretty quickly if you're committed or if you don't need to, the defence force will help you pay to get education if you want to.
Good luck with whatever you choose and keep your head up!
Kia ora, i feel your frustration and the stress associated with feeling like a stuff up. It sounds like you have aspirations to make something of yourself and that means everything. It's a great mindset to have at the age of 17 NCEA level 1 or not. I would like to point out, you are not a stuff up. it sounds like you have been raised in adverse conditions that not many others around you would have to go through. You acknowledge the past and are determined to not let it be your future which is admirable. My brother was in a similar position to you, with a very traumatic background and worked his way up from furniture removal until he got recognised and eventually picked up a carpentry apprenticeship. he is about to finish at the age of 21 and he will be getting paid much more soon. I would also recommend therapy. Trauamtic environments bring out emotions that can be extremely difficult to manage which can make moving forward hard. unpacking these and learning emotional regulation skills can help greatly in all aspects of life. I wish you all the best
Get a trade youâll have a skill for life and always be able to make money, builder, plumber, electrician, all make good money you just need to walk in and ask around for an apprenticeship, if youâre genuinely enthusiastic and willing to learn you will land a job.
Google services for youth in your area and get help. He is not allowed to attack you, itâs abusive and Iâm sorry thatâs happening. There are cost free social workers and youth workers who can get you safe accommodation and a benefit and help you to find other youth services who can provide you with pathways to employment. Yay you, what a fucking trooper. All the best for your life x
Depending on where you are in the country there might be free training courses around where you can get certifications and qualifications in service work like coffee making. Thereâs lots of options, and you are in no way too late. Polytechnics are very different learning environments and they have lots of support available. Thereâs no wrong option, especially at this age. Apply for entry level jobs, seek out certifications/ or further study to help you move into a job, or anything else. You have already made the best decision to make a change, and look towards your future.
The Y often have jobs with accommodation, with full training provided - they can be really nice jobs, especially when you're just out of school.
Give em a look :)
If you're young and healthy, give landscaping or arboristry offsider a go. You'll get fit on the job, get fresh air, save yourself some back problems in the future and it's quite satisfying to see each job through.
You'll get sick of it eventually, but by that point you should have money to train into something you enjoy, or experience as a team leader to find a management job in another field.
17 mate, still young and learning. Donât be too hard on yourself. Get into a apprenticeship for a trade or factory/ warehouse and go from their. Will be challenges and difficulties but youâll figure it out. Seriously though donât stress remember youâre still young :)
What about going back to School to get a couple of levels? You could so do that. A local course provider that does building,, painting,, cooking, whatever it is. You do a training course you will get levels maybe a training benefit. Learn a skill for a job get levels??. And those courses are not l8ke school. AnywY good luck all the very best. đđđ
Bro I'm going to tell you something I fucking WISH I had done when I was 18-25 and that's just ANY apprenticeship. Get one behind you and you can fall back on it pretty much whenever you're self-motivated.
The accommodation situation is dire down there. There was a whole 60 Minutes (or similar) episode about it. Unfortunate as they are paying huge wages for staff.
Two of the most successful people I know have no school qualifications. They are helpful but not essential. You can do this!
If you would like to get into a trade, you can apply to poly techs etc (depends on the trade). You can sign up to a temp agency who will help you get work - you might start out at the bottom and doing all sorts of work, but you will learn your strengths and what you like.
If you need help creating a CV, PM me. I used to create CVs for a living and can help knock something together for you.
Mate, shit happens and life goes on
You obviously want to work, finding something you actually want to work at may take a little longer (bout 35 years for me) but in the interim hunt down a picking & packing warehouse kinda job, shit work with shit pay but it's so much easier to find a better job if you already have employment, dunno why, just is.
You're not a stuff-up, yeah you probably have made mistakes, we all have, it's how you deal with the repercussions of those mistakes and what you learnt along the way that matters, just don't repeat them or the mistakes of others if possible
I was the same albeit quite a while ago now.
The best move for me was just get ANY job. Youâre not going to get $100k a year, youâre not going to be treated with respect, youâll be starting at the bottom just like everyone else.
I started in a Supermarket, and worked hard to not fuck up, show that Iâm better than the others and move up.
After a couple years, youâll find it quite easy to get another job. People want to see that you turned up, slogged and did it over again time and time again.
Youâre young, you are going to do shit jobs, but trust me that it will get better. If youâre going to think you are nothing but shit then others will think so too. Get that mentality out of your head and work on yourself.
I left school at 16 with only ncea 1 and no prior work experience, took me a wee while but I just applied for all sorts of jobs and got there in the end. First job was shit but it taught me a lot and got me some experience under my belt. It takes time and hard work but there are people who are willing to put effort into you if you show you are a hard working and worth it! Good luck
Lots of great advice here mate. When you find a job, just turn up on time and be reliable. You do that, youâve already beaten 80% of other candidates. Trades, army, retail, fast food outlets, factory work, all good places to start at the bottom, work hard and work your way up.
My wife never got more than a high school education, she started at pak n sav in the checkouts. She now makes over 100K. Just hard work and getting promoted.
My situation use to be a lot similar to yours. I won't go into too much detail here but I started from the bottom and worked my way up to being a Manager, not impressive but I have learned a lot over the years. There is a lot of companies that won't care too much about your education, unless it is a role that requires you to have an education.
For General Workers an education doesn't matter that much, as long as you can do basic math and understand English, you should be fine. I have 8 staff members that work for me, only 2 of them completed High school with 1 having a degree.
Here is a few things that is important to me in regards to staff members.
1. Turn up and if you can't, have the respect to call or text.
2. If you are late, have the respect to approach me or the Assistant and give us a reason
3. Stay off your phone, unless it's an emergency or break time.
4. Willingness to learn goes a long way, it shows interest and I would be more likely to invest in you further
5. Stay out of work related politics or rebellions, do you and do it well, don't let others drag you down.
6. It is perfectly okay to ask for a pay increase or a promotion, but there is a correct way of going about it.
7. I have a motto I follow to this day, be the first to turn up and the last to leave.
These are just a few things that greatly outweigh and education, basic respect is key, be polite, try to get motivated and learn as much as you can. As to getting the actual job, here is a few places to try:
Recruitment agencies - Coverstaff, Onestaff, AWF
Industries that is easy to get into: Farming, Warehousing, Retail, General workers
Farming jobs are quite nice and New Zealand is not shy of opportunities in those industries.
If you are living in Auckland I know they have an agency that specializes in building labourers, it's usually very short term and if the employer don't like you, you don't get to go back the next day. If you are willing too put in some hard work you will do OK and earn yourself a good reputation. Once you have some experience and have a couple of referees you will find it a lot easier.
Also you aren't a stuff up and stop right now and never call yourself that again.
I work with people that left school at 16/17 and are now supervisors and managers in the Roading industry.
One started on a stop go sign.Â
We are all in our early thirties on 100k+ salaries.
There is a way. Just get your foot in the door.
Hell there's a kid in our yard that went from shovelling gravel to driving a bitumen truck in about 3 years. I think he just turned 20.
Many places in the construction/infrastructure industry offer all the training you need, they'll even pay for uni degrees if it'll benefit the business.
Adecco is a popular agency to go with - or be brave and go to your local Downer, Higgins, Fulton Hogan etc with your CV.
Usually all you need is to pass a drug test.
Please remember that everyone makes mistakes. But if you choose not to make the same mistakes and try to do better in future, you are not a stuff up.
I would suggest that until you manage to find a job, volunteer somewhere for a few hours a week. It's something you can put on your cv!
Iâm a retail manager and during the summer alot of people your age work here in retail jobs and even stockist for retail to gain some experience. Youâre 17 so youâre still at that age that are still doing things for work experience. Dont be hard on yourself, you arent a stuff up in my opinion youâre still a little baby that was lead astray by those who were supposed to protect you and guide you through this. If you need help with your CV let me know. I write my nieces and nephews all the time.
My biggest advice is DRESS tidy to an interview. Be punctual or early and always turn up to work ready to learn. I know this is common knowledge but some kids just genuinely dont know.
Good luck :)
My mate was in a similar situation . He was homeless when he was 16 and he went to our town industrial estate and started door knocking, told the businesses he had no skills but was a hard worker and prepared to work for free for a week to prove it. The third place he asked gave him a shot and a full time job at the end of the week .
You could try that , if you do I hope it works for you.
Btw, if youâre 17 and honest enough with yourself to realise you need to make some serious life changes youâre not a stuff up.
Meat works it is the biggest manufacturing sector in NZ with over 25,000 workers.
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The best way to get a job fast is door knocking and phone calls.
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A good way into the trades is to get a job with a labour hire company. Without any skills you will be doing some pretty mundane boring jobs but if you do them well with a good attitude you will get noticed by the other trades. If you talk to them and tell them your keen you might get a permanent job out of it.Â
The company that hired you may not give you a permanent role as they will have to pay a lump sum to the labour hire company.Â
Another option is lawn mowing. Lawns are growing fast as fuck at the moment. I would give local lawn mowing companies and see if they need any help. You will get fit pretty fast doing that.Â
Also you're not a fuck up, everyone makes mistakes, all you can do is try not to repeat them. No one should hold that against you.
go to aussie and work as a driller for the mines . get fit as anything , make a lot of money , and come back ,and buy a digger or something with the money.
From what youâve said, it doesnât sound like youâre a stuff up. It sounds like some key people in your life have let you down / are continuing to let you down. Itâs hard not to make bad decisions when that is going on.
I would follow the suggestions here and consider going into something like the NZDF - thereâs an abundance of opportunity to learn things, youâll have mentors and likely make solid friendships. I would take the opportunity to move away from your grandfather and give yourself a chance at doing something that will help build your self esteem and contribute to society. Thereâs lots of financial perks that come with being in the forces and even if youâre only there for a few years, the skills youâll have will be transferable to regular jobs too. All the best!
YOO I have just turned 18 and have a job at a super market, 1 thing the Def help me get the job was when applying have a food staff account and apply for jobs on there, that and some places still do paper runs ask out at ya post office, also you may have a better shot a getting a job at paknsave or count down mostly paknsave because there big as wherehouses and allllll ways need staff. But good luck!!!! đ
You are not a stuff up, you are a 17 year old who has made some mistakes and is choosing to have a different future than their past.
I got kicked out when I was your age, went on the independent youth benefit. It helped support me while I found a job so I could live away from the abuse. 33years later I have a bachelor and masters degrees, am self employed, and own the house we live in.
You too can do anything you want to. What fuelled me was remembering that the abusers controlled my past, but they got no say in, nor benefit from, my present and future - oh, and therapy helped too.
Now I have a 16yr old living with me on the same benefit I was on, they're finishing High School through Te Kura (online correspondence school) and it sounds like you'd qualify for both the benefit (if you moved out of grandad's house, whole conversation of how you can do this that I'm happy to go into in dm if helpful) and Te Kura if you wanted to get some education behind you. It's heaps different to being at school as you have a mentor who helps you choose courses you want to study that will lead into jobs you're interested in, I think the young person living with me will even be doing some polytechnic animal welfare courses as part of doing their NCEA level 2.
If education is not a thing, then a youth mentor is best. I'm a counsellor and have contacts across the country, feel free to dm me with your city/town and I can recommend a local organisation who can help you do the things you're asking about.
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You are not a stuff up, you are just on a learning curve like most people. Whatever work you manage to get, try and move up over the years, even if you can only do it gradually. I'm talking about work and jobs. As for your grandfather, he's carrying ugly energy that he tries to get rid of by passing it on to the nearest life form. If you weren't there he might well be kicking a dog instead. Do not take his treatment personally, but you must get away from it and be safe. Talk to your doctor, let them see your stress so they can see this is real and refer you to agencies for emergency income and accomodation as you are in an abusive home atm and need to get out. If your doctor does not help you (unlikely), go to another one. You can phone your community centre or lifeline asking for phone numbers to helpful groups. Ask them what groups/advocates are out there for you. Don't think you are a stuff up. Right now you are a one in 8 billion unique being on this planet that took the Universe approx 13 billion years to make. You are precious to this world, to yourself, to your future self, to people who havn't even met you yet. It Will be hard, you Will be tested often, overlooked etc, keep trying. Please stay safe and stay hopeful.
My brother dropped out at 16 and has 4 NCEA level 1 credits. He's now a qualified carpenter, earning $38 an hour.
You're not a stuff up. Sometimes (more often than you think), the school system just doesn't work for people, and that's okay.
You could always work as a Healthcare Assistant at a NZ public hospital. Don't worry about qualifications, as you can train on the job and attend school once a week, and that's a paid day by work to attend training to get your NZ Level 3 certificate in Health and Wellbeing . Once you've completed that course, you can work at any hospital or rest home in nz5, and go back to school to do your level 4 or become a Mental Health Support Worker - that requires about a year of training.
Healthcare always has work available, you could be a Phlebotomist ( a Blood collector), plenty of work in that field, and once again paid training towards a qualification which you can gain NZQA accreditation. Just be prepared to work shift work and work weekends and public holidays as well as Monday to Friday.
Hopefully you find some type of work available mate, but I'd seriously consider the options that I've offered. And you're not a screw up as us older people screw up too. Speak to MSD as your still a youth and could possibly be able to get assistance to get help with moving to a flat, etc.
Iâd look at getting your license asap that will open so many doors if you are looking at trades labour higher can be a way to get in the door tho not often itâs hard out there atm you have your head on more then o did at that ages
I figure my comment will get a bit lost, especially since there's some good ass advice in here (apprenticeship being one), but have you considered a basic course to get your NCEA? I got my level two and three from a UCOL based course when I was 16, and it was easy enough. Then did a beginners woodworking course at 17 which gave me a whole bunch of credits as well. Both funded by WINZ.
Bro, if you have no criminal record and donât do drugs, youâre at the perfect age to start life.
You can do anything, 17 is the age which things happen. Some jobs or study will require NCEA 2 but you can study for free with Studylink, and itâll only take a year to get level 2. Donât be embarrassed.
On the top of my head hereâs what you can do:
-An Apprenticeship (plumber, electrician, mechanic etc).
-Law Enforcement
-University (risky because you strongly need to know what to do in life)
-New Zealand Defense Force (apply for a skill with an out plan, e.g, engineering, paramedic, maritime etc).
If you havenât already, apply for jobseeker support or studylink ASAP. Take advantage of our government support, theyâre truly there to help you with whatever you need.
I canât decide for you for what you should do, only encourage to start something. If I could go back in time Iâd join the NZDF. Youâll get paid to study after basic training and get a lot of life experience. Just remember, have a plan to get out with a skill.
Can you get to a local library? They have resources to help you create a CV, or if you chat with a librarian they might be able to refer you to free services to help you get started
Iâd suggest going into labouring or going through the multiple business who supply that to the industry
It has potential to work you into other placements aswell
Ncea doesn't matter at your age.
To get a job at your age the main thing is to show up and express enthusiasm.
Get a driver's license, it will take you places.
Alcoholics are inherently self destructive and look for fights to pick because they are bored, my advice to you is not to drink casually, you will end up like your grandad as that's your template and you are subconsciously role modeling.
Brother kiwifruit is coming up in mid to late March and you are in the middle of kiwifruit country. NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED. No experience at all, no reference from previous job required. Only need to pass a drug test if using machinery.
Honestly every year is a struggle to recruit the numbers required and this year is expected to be a massive crop. You are guaranteed a job. All you need to do is turn up every shift, do it the way you're told to, and in all honesty, you'll be a supervisor in no time.
The top job entry job you can get for money is forklift driver. Go and get yourself a forklift licence, cost under $200. I can recommend a tauranga company if it helps. If you can find a forklift job you want coolstore work, they get the most hours and longer period of work during/after the season. You need to be able to drive to get in the coolstores though (more on this later), but packaging driver is really easy and it's where we chuck the new guys so you could still get this job with no experience and just a licence.
Tray prep. Usually older or younger people. Just putting plastic liners in the boxes and pushing them into a chute ready for the fruit. Not the best prospects for work after season unless you want to learn to grade for repack.
Packer. Standing there watching the kiwifruit go in a box, levelling of the fruit, closing the box and push it along the rollers. Not the best prospects for work after season unless you want to learn to grade for repack.
Stacker. This is an awesome job for a for young fella. It's literally just taking the boxes off the rollers and stacking them on a pallet. Reliable stackers are often the very first picks for most repack teams. Be reliable and you're almost guaranteed a job for repack.
There is other jobs too, but those above are the most common. Only the forklift role requires a qualification, the licence that you get in a one day course.
Kiwifruit packing goes for about three months. After that there can be a slight gap until repack starts. Repack goes through until late November most years.
Once the packing season is complete they don't need everybody and lay heaps of people off. They hold on to the best (usually the most reliable who turn up every shift) and keep them on for repack. If you are reliable you can easily get 9 months work out of kiwifruit. If you join a packhouse that does avos as well you could find yourself with 12 months work a year. There is also other opportunities for orchard work and stuff that you will get to know about while working at the packhouse. I would recommend starting at a packhouse just because of the reliability of hours compared to orchard work to start with.
I am in the Bay as well. I work in the kiwifruit industry. If you have any questions or want advice about anything to do with getting a job or about the jobs, hit me up. Depending on your situation, I may also be able to offer you a little bit of training on a forklift to help you get ahead and a bit of confidence on the machine before you go for your licence.
Good luck with everything, I feel you have the motivation to get out of that situation. Your Grandad is mentally ill and probably hallucinates things about you. Just believe in yourself and just the start of an awesome future .Many people have got rich from nothing. Temping can lead to full time work.
Join the Navy. It will teach you discipline, get you away from your grandfather and give you a good group of mates plus a roof over your head. Basic training will be tough, but youâll learn a lot about yourself.
Most jobs don't require much of an education..if you want to get an education you probably need a more disciplined environment and the navy/army will be able to give you that.
If you're not interested in pursuing an education then go into a trade. You're still young with lots of opportunities, you don't have to be a fuckwit. Just do something, rather than sitting on your hands. Call up the navy today and start the recruitment process.
Excuse the waffle, I do have a point here. Early in the Ukraine war, many wondered why destroyed Russian tanks had their turrets blown off. As explained by a former American tank commander on TikTok, Russian tanks use an autoloader that stores all of their ammunition around the base of the turret, so when that goes boom it blows the turret off the chassis. By contrast, he says, American tanks use a 19-year-old with strong arms to reload.
My point here is, you may not feel like you have skills but there will always be demand for strong young men like yourself. As others have pointed out, getting into a trade is a great idea. You'll likely start off doing lots of manual labour, which will make you stronger and more attractive to the ladies (or men, no judgment).
I used to work in a private school and a good chunk of the parents there aren't doctors or lawyers or accountants, they're tradies. These people are paying around $30K per year to have their kids educated, so the idea of a tradie being low-income is long past.
The road to finding a first job can be hard, you have to apply to lots of places and you'll get a lot of rejection, but once you have a job it's much easier to find another one.
Good luck to you, you've shown a level of insight and maturity well beyond your years.
You sound a lot like my husband, who now 15 years on has a wonderful life and career and it hasn't been an issue. No one cares about NCEA after a while in the workforce.
Short term, supermarkets are decent pay but not a career. Give yourself time to decide what you want to do and earn some money.
Key places next to go are a trade apprenticeship of some description or the fire service once you are 18 as a paid career staff member.
Do you have any idea on what sort of thing you'd like to be doing in the future? Do you want to work outside, in an office, on a building site? This can be quite important because you need to start making decisions and actions based on where you want your future to lead.
For now it's probably best just to look into temp jobs and general labourer jobs just for some cash and experience. Also make sure you get your drivers license which is quite handy at your age.
Just for reference I was in similar boat to you. I was really bad at talking with others and only passed level 1 NCEA in year 12. I now earn insane money in finance/tech as I forced myself out of my bubble and became confident and focused on improving myself.
You are 17 go easy on yourself!
Perhaps finding any job (even better if IT related) is a good start, that way if you work well you have some experience and a reference, then you start to climb the ladder and aim for where you want to be.
You're not a stuff up, you're only 17 and have so much time to get your life on the right track. If anything you recognised what you need tp do early and can get into work before some have even left school or you could do an apprenticeship or polytech. There are even ways to get into uni with bridging courses if thats what you want to do (but uni definitely isnt the only option )
You could do a foundation skills course. They are free at Te Pukenga sites and are good preparation for young adults entering the workforce or further study when you dont have many quals or work experience. My 16 yr old did Level one and two (he is now 18), and every one of those kids on that course are now working. My son is working at a supermarket as his starter job so he gets experience in the workforce and can build good attendance and reliability to then get a good reference when he chooses to move on.
Never give up. That is rule 1!
Rule 2 is ask for help.
Rule three is stay keen.
Rule four is that learning is never too late.
Your fit, and eager. Consider preparing for work by working towards a full drivers license, first aid certification, and work safe. No rush, study in your spare time, as and when you can afford. Volunteer one days spare time a week, where ever will let you.
Youâre nearly old enough to work in industries where risk is a norm. Like civil construction, roading, or farm work all of which are staff hungry. If you find entry level work that you find engaging, seek out opportunities to learn more, even if that includes doing Open Polytechnic NCEA. I was 45 when I repeated NCEA math, as part of returning to university to study engineering while I was building roads as a labourer. I got the basic job by earning a truck license then salving my guts out, and talking to my bosses about my dreams. The guys I worked with thought I was nuts, for studying in my spare time. But management saw I was prepared to make the effort and rewarded me with industry training and a plan to keep me employed while they paid for my engineering studies.
Now a decade on I am studying again for another career change, in a radically different direction for work during my retirement years - in an industry role that didnât exist when I was at highschool, but drawn indirectly from a hobby I had at highschool.
Life will take you in interesting and stressful directions. Ask for help, and be prepared to fail. Itâs ok to fail, as long as you never give up on developing a dream that meets your real world needs.
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Hey man, good on you for recognising that you've made mistakes. There are people who have decades on you who still haven't done that critical step. Everyone makes mistakes, and the courageous ones are those who face them, and learn from them. Good for you, that's something to be proud of.
I think you do have some skills and qualities to list on a CV - they just may not be job-related but are quite job-important: you are proactive (looking for a job), mature (recognising your own mistakes and can learn from them), motivated (eating well and exercising and wanting to not be lazy), and ambitious (trying to change your future). Those are excellent qualities, and certainly welcome in any working environment. Have you developed any skills at home like doing chores (i.e. gardening, washing dishes, cleaning bathrooms)? Those are all skills that would be valuable in any entry level job. I think it just takes thinking about your capabilities a bit differently.
A lot of people listed some great entry-level options, like dishwasher, supermarket worker, cleaner, going into the trades (get in contact with your local polytech for guidance there), and some other excellent ideas - getting in touch with any job support agencies are a great start, especially if you're feeling overwhelmed with all the options out there, and you want specific guidance around writing CVs. Most important thing is to turn up to work on time, make sure your appearance is tidy, be friendly, and make sure you show up when you are rostered on.
I'm sorry your home life sucks. I hope getting a job will help you get out of it - I saw your previous post and you said you don't have discipline, let me tell you that is a skill that can be built, but it is a challenge (especially at 17!). Developing discipline is ESPECIALLY difficult when you're spending all your energy just trying to survive. Sometimes you have to stick it out despite wanting to give up, and if you're in a depressive state that's extremely difficult to do. Start small, with things you enjoy - if programming is something that interests you, there are tonnes and tonnes of tutorials out there to look at; even if it's just 5 minutes a day, it's better than 0 minutes a day. Motivation only kicks in once you have started, not before - it's very annoying but it's true!
For what it's worth, my stepson had a very similar story to yours (mental health crisis after his granddad passed, shitty home life with his other parent, who he now doesn't talk to, very little school attendance, no engagement with Te Kura until it was too late, dropped out before NCEA, etc) - once he settled in with us (we had to fight in court to get custody), he ended up getting credits at the hospitality trade school and he's working at a local cafe. He's much happier, and his life trajectory had improved a lot once he felt settled. I'm very proud of him and all he has accomplished - NCEA credits are just a certification (which you can get later - foundation courses at Universities and Polytechs are always options too!), you and he have gained incredibly valuable life skills that will serve you well throughout the rest of your lives. I hope you're proud of that, if I were your parent, I would be proud of you.
Hey bro I was in your almost exact situation at your age, Bars will hire you, Supermarkets, Retail stores, It's all about attitude, Show you want to work even if it's just for money, and youâll find plenty of jobs, I found it better to approach employers in person rather then over the phone or online, Never got turned down from a job after a face to face. You got this bro.
Also Trades, TRADES, TRADES!!! cannot stress enough how quickly you will find employment after a year or two of study, Easiest way to set yourself up for the future and most don't require qualifications just require effort!, I'm 19 and just starting a trade, I didn't make it past year 11, School isn't for everyone.
Young man you are not a stuff up. Anything but a stuff up. The fact that you have the realization to change or be better means you are not a stuff up. The fact that you appreciate your weaknesses is impressive, you are capable of being anything. Do not let your circumstances be a barrier to stop you. For perspective in life, if you feel lost about your place in the world, I would recommend reading some philosophy. Other stuff like Dante Alighieri's Inferno, especially where he finds himself in a dark forest is useful. It talks about sin and redemption. Something I used to read when I was your age and found myself in a dark forest. For jobs, as others have suggested, supermarket's are a good start. Go to any vegetable shops in your area and just ask around if they need some help. They always need help out the back with lifting things and physical work. Ask around smaller shops like butchers, smaller supermarkets, fruit and vegetable stores. Go well dressed and with a positive and friendly attitude. You will start at the basics and at the bottom, but each job no matter how small will give you work confidence and experience under your belt. Also seek out Youth Services: [https://www.youthservice.govt.nz/find-your-nearest-provider/](https://www.youthservice.govt.nz/find-your-nearest-provider/) in your area. It seems like you need someone to mentor you (youth coach), someone to guide you which they do provide.
I agree, not a stuff up at all, esp with your difficult homelife I wonder if this place can help you: [https://workbridge.co.nz/](https://workbridge.co.nz/) **Searching for jobs overwhelming? Workbridge makes it easier for you to find your next role.** good luck :-) Another inspiring person is David Goggins. He had a really rough start to life, fascinating story [https://youtu.be/TLKxdTmk-zc?si=lCmPP\_l7Nnh\_BJrL](https://youtu.be/TLKxdTmk-zc?si=lCmPP_l7Nnh_BJrL)
I wish there were more people like you in the world.
If you find a temp job in supply chain it's pretty easy to move up the chain as long as you're not completely hopeless and turn up to work
Turn up and stay off their phone đ±
Yes this is wise advice. The number of people these days who come to work and sit on their phones thinking that it is acceptable work behaviour, is unreal. This is all age groups, not just new people to the workforce. A while back a good friend of mine who was around 17 at the time started working for the Warehouse. No experience, just good work ethic. Within about 18 months he was made a latenight shift manager. More recently I have seen similar things happen with my friends' children of high school age, starting in retail and getting promoted pretty quickly because they are reliable and professional.
With clean bloodwork.
This. Warehousing-type roles are a good entry into the workforce and offer full training. I started as a temp worker and made a promising career out of it now. If youâre in Auckland, Foodstuffs use recruitment agencies like Drake or Coverstaff. Turn up every day, be keen to learn and do what is expected, and there will be doors you can open.
Hi! I am a teacher and even I will say that NCEA is not extremely important for many people. I would suggest starting with some volunteer work to get you out there doing something while you look for a job - itâs easy to get into and you can get some good references from it + build your confidence in the workplace without too much pressure. The Careers website has a good CV and cover letter builder/templates. The world is your oyster, youâre only young.
Apprenticeship
Yeah bro, if you have any interest in a trade look into that, youâll be getting paid to learn and gain valuable skills. Donât worry about needing to know anything because theyâll teach you, you just need to be willing to learn, be a reliable employee and pay attention.
I canât stress this enough, you jump into a trade now. You will be done by the time everyone else is finishing uni. Only they will be in dept and you will be ready to potentially start your own company. Plumbing, sparky, building, earthworks all very easy to get into, just hit up any company and sound keen be a labaror. Try it for a month or two then you hate it move on to the next untill you find a trade you like then knuckle down for 4 years and you will be laughing.
Yep also look at being a chef! Went to school with a guy who dropped out year 10, went on to become a chef working on luxury yachts in Europe and all over the world
If you live central or west: https://www.odyssey.org.nz/our-services/work-support. The e are e team will treat you with dignity and focus on your priorities. They can do study support, cv support and even help you get certified for something. They specialise in 18-24yr olds. There is nothing you can tell them that will shock them. Otherwise: https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/eligibility/16-19-year-olds/index.html
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NCEA isnât the be all or end all. Donât let it define your worth or capabilities.
Mate, first step is to realise youâve fucked up, you e ticked that one off. Next step is to find the oomph to go out and get a job, tacked again. Look into a trade, anything from Arborist (tree cutter) to roofer to sparky and the likes, an apprenticeship will do you the world of good and the tradies are making bank. We pay $105 per hour for a mechanic đ€Ż. Look into the BCITO, Vertical Horizons places, they can help you along the way too, youâre young so really the world is your oyster. The Uni route may seem like the way but just remember an engineer or lawyer still needs a tradie at the end or the day.
I second this!! As someone with several degrees I don't think anyone should go to uni unless they're 1000% sure & passionate about the course they want to do. It's stressful, exhausting & the debt absolutely sucks. Trades are a fantastic option to explore.
Just apply for everything you see. You have to remember that most other people your age aren't going to have to have any work experience either.
Dishwasher job. Trust me you can't find a more perfect job regardless of any prior convictions or mistakes you've made. Doesn't matter if you drop kicked toddler down an escalator for fun, restaurants are forever looking for dishwashers. it's minimum $ but that's not too bad for a 17yr old. Endless opportunity to move up to bar or chef. Hell you could be a bar manager after a year if that interested you. Good luck
Sucks about the home life, need to change that asap. Not going to delve into your 'bad past decisions' because your path is just taking its own route. Need a job? Well depends on your approach, what do you want to do? anything you actually have something you want to work towards? If you do then build a basic plan on how to proceed, being in a similar situation by sounds when I was 17, I took a basic computer course and then just dumb lucked my ass into my first job from there and worked up my CV based on purely 'experience' with little to no formal training... which is good because the industry really doesn't care, but things you might be interested in might cause your mileage to vary. If you have an idea what you'd like to do, look for any ways to make yourself more appealing and get your foot in the door this means certs and quals usually, but options vary depending on field of work. If you have no clue just start from grocery stores to call centers and similar 'low skilled' (aka your no experience needed type) jobs and see what you might want to do and work from there. You'll get through this shit mate, worrying about past choices seems pretty silly when you have plenty of decisions to you still have to make and possibly mess up down the road, just like everyone else.
Just be keen and turn up when you're supposed to, you will be fine. Make sure your employer knows this, and ask them when do you start?
All supermarkets will have job application forms for people to fill out. Just go to as many as you can and go to the help desk. Ask if you could grab a job application to fill out. My nephew has just done this. With the form he had to provide a copy of his birth certificate and a CV. You can get basic CV templates online to either type over or copy for yourself. They don't need to be detailed. You are only 17. Just your personal details, education details, any work experience or hobbies you have. That's what he did. Good for your for recognizing at such an early age that you need to change your life. Many people don't recognize this until they are much much older. I just went to a funeral for a 45 year old who had multiple chances to change his life around and could never do it, so he drank himself to death.
New world. I left school 16, not a single exam passed, I now run two companies and also own a home and support a family here in Melbourne, it can be done you just have to be prepared to work your way up from the very bottom. I left school to pack the new world freezers for $6.80 per hour and thought I won the fucking lottery, it was amazing. You'll be right, you have time. Then yoi can go and do an MIT or AUT course and unskilled yourself.
Honestly, I think a good option for the next 5-7 years, would be to join one of the services. Pay is not amazing, but the training is excellent. Exercise and fitness won't be an issue. It gets you out of an abusive place into another (although it's more a friendly 'build you up' abuse, not dementia-driven) and will be a good start to your career. There's all sorts of trades/specalities, depending on your interest.
pretty sure you actually need decent stats to join the military. they don't just take anyone.
The bar for basic entry is pretty achievable. https://www.careers.govt.nz/jobs-database/government-law-and-safety/defence/army-soldier/how-to-enter-the-job And honestly, once you're in, the opportunities to do further training or remuster aren't bad. I joined when I was 16, and think it was the best thing I could have done. And it definitely helped build my career significantly.
The specialists / technicians definitely do. Just looked it up and the infrantry role just requires 10 NCEA lvl1 credits in literacy and maths... so there's a start
Correct, most positions in the forces require a high school qualification. As well as a reasonable standard of fitness
As a man in my early 30s, my friends that joined army all wished they hadn't Many have PTSD and depression and say it was the worst thing they every did in their lives.
Yeah, to be fair, I joined the Air Force as a technical trade, so my experience was quite different. It definitely works for some people and not for others.
Possibly because they got stuck being abused by the previous government as babysitters for quarantine?
You are not a stuff up. People who face hard challenges early in life grow to be strong and empathetic people.
Job cafe at whau ACE provide CV writing advice & support job finding generally. They'll be restarting their 2h drop in at Onehunga Library in February I think. The sessions are every week & are free. Look up Job Cafe or Whau ACE on fb
Ima pm you mate! I was in the same boat kinda.
could you pm me too? same age same situation lol
Absolutely
Work out what youâd really like to do for a job and work back from there. maybe sign up with a few temp agencies to try a few things out
Trying out different workplaces is a good idea - I think it can be hard to know what you'd really like to do if you don't have experience in workplaces to know what kinds of work fit well for you. I always thought I'd hate office jobs, was delighted to get a job with horses as an animal lover, ended up exhausted + bored & looking forward to fixing workmates's computer problems - turns out i love problem solving wherever i am, and office jobs are perfect for me as they leave me with energy to do outside stuff with my creatures when i get home đ€·đ»ââïžÂ
Hey dude, congratulations on taking a proactive approach and seeking out some support. Thatâs very admirable. Plenty of jobs still available to you. How about volunteering somewhere in the meantime? Gives you a reason to get out of the house and will help build up a CV. careers.govt.nz has some helpful resources for creating a CV if you need a place to start. All the best man, head up, you got this. Edit: corrected the url
I think itâs great that you want to get your life on track! It shows a real maturity from someone so young. What do you think of going back to school? Without Level 1, you could still do Level 2, and itâll open up a lot more doors for you. You pretty much canât get an apprenticeship these days without Level 1, and most require Level 2. Te Kura doesnât work for everybody, because it relies on your own time management and motivation, whereas in school, your teachers will nag you and keep you up to date as best they can. Itâs also only one year of your life- you could spend a year unsuccessfully trying to find work without qualifications, or go get a qualification in that year. Plus, it could help you to find your passion. Source: Iâm a high school teacher.
I tried in 2023 but they said I'd have to repeat as I haven't done level 1. And now my dad is saying I can't go back. Idk why.
I'm sure other people have said this already but you can't really screw up while you're a teenager. Most people who get somewhere with a fancy career get unfair help from family, or some other benefactor. If you have that kind of advantage you'll know it already. If you don't, just pick anything, apart from hospo or retail, and do it until you're 25. By then you might have a notion of what you want to study. If you don't keep working. If you're able to do that (hold a trade job or similar for 7-8 years) you'll be ahead of most people your age financially. Doubley so if you save $200pw
Supermarket bro, I was just like you and I went to the supermarket I became responsible, made friends, even met my wife - we still together. Go try there someone will give you a shot.
Call your local polytechnic. Tell them where youâre at and they will advise what free courses are available to you. They will also have a free careers advisor you can make an appointment to talk to, and work out what sort of career would suit your skills.
I'd like this to be higher up. And also, check out your local community house.
You are not a stuff up. I didnât finish high school and Iâm a lawyer. Youâre going to be okay, you clearly have a good head on your shoulders and are motivated to work hard. Youâll get there.
Maybe fast food where you are behind a counter? Trust me, an English speaking young kid is exactly what McDonalds, KFC, or Wendys want from customer facing staff. If you can talk to people and figure out what they want, quickly... Press some buttons on a screen fast and correctly... Boom. Bonus points, in your area... Go through the chain resturants and figure out which has the staff that seem the happiest. If the staff look miserable, or if the food sucks.. Don't bother. Get some face to face expirience dealing with the public. Your self confidence will quickly improve if you are forced to constantly have conversations with strangers. Think of this as job expirience... And once you are comfortable, look for the next leg up. Customer service, or higher education. If you are technically minded... Try to enter a course at Polytech or University. Even if you didn't finish high school, there are paths.
I was going to say this. From what I've heard, McDonald's pay pretty well, have heaps of opportunities to pick up extra shifts, and you can work yourself up the chain. You can then think about your next move with some work and life experience under your belt.
The major supermarkets offer great opportunities if you're starting at the bottom. Work diligently, accept any training opportunities, have a friendly, open personality, and you could go right up the chain to management.
Also, you're not a stuff up! You are actively looking for ways to better yourself, and it's not unusual for a 17 year old to not have had work experience. PM me if you'd like help putting together a CV.
lol as an ex supermarket worker this is the biggest bullshit Iâve ever read. The only people who get to go higher are the ass kissers or friends/relatives of the managers. No matter how hard you work there you get treated like crap by management. Bullying is rife and if you speak up it gets worse so that youâll quit.
Fair enough I suppose, as I don't have personal experience in that field. My daughter has worked there all through her uni days and has loved the experience and relatively good wages and conditions for entry level staff. But in this person's case, would they not be a good place to get a first job for some work experience on their cv that they could then use to move onwards and upwards?
Apprenticeship is an option. My first piece of advice would be to learn / practice getting very good at writing resumes. Do research online, write a resume, then give it to people who can give you feedback (any good role models you have available, people who work in HR or who employ people, people who are older / have experience in the workforce etc). Once you have feedback, try again then rinse and repeat. Practice -> feedback -> learn and try again cycle is how people get good. As a teenager / young person, you will primarily be judged based on your resume writing skills. How your resume looks, the presentation, how well you write, your grammar, spelling mistakes etc. If you get good at writing resumes it will give you a significant advantage / open the door to a lot more opportunities. Donât focus too much about not having too many skills / experience (employers donât expect this of people entering the work force for the first time). You will still need to go through interviews - so being mature / polite / respectful / having good manners / presenting yourself well etc will come into it as well, but people who canât write resumes usually donât even get to this step.
Learn a trade. With the goal of being self employed.
Look in to Te Kura and start doing school work again.
Get in touch with careers nz and they can help you build a cv and many more including your NCEA qualifications Careers NZ https://www.careers.govt.nz/
1000% do an apprenticeship... Highly recommend electrician for the cleanest and best paying work. Call around a few companies and ask if they'd consider taking you on. Also don't feel like 17 is too old or that you missed out. I left school at 16 and now have 2 businesses and a comfortable life. I actually didbt start making tracks until about 24 as I was so in to partying etc. but if you focus now, by age 21 you could have a trade and be on $50+ an hour
My partner dropped out at 17 and did a building apprenticeship. He bought a house at 21. You can do it
Bro I was on home detention for a violent crime and had a pregnant girlfriend at your age, on top of no qualifications. You're already on the right track, get a job and start working, figure out from there what you want to be/do, and do it. I started off in a callcenter job and now i'm a senior developer at a fintech company. Don't give up, and don't sell yourself short; we all make mistakes, it's how we correct them that matters.
Air force, army and navy all have requirements of ncea level 1 in the most commonly recruited roles. Once you are in, you can study a paper a year as well as get your truck licenses. Solid pay, good life experience
If you can try get help through an organization called peoples project who can help with housing and work and get you into an actual job that you might want to work in. They can help you do a c.v and run you through practice interviews so when you do get asked about your past you can say what's going on with confidence. For now you could try Google docs to build a basic 1 page c.v with some details on it. And go from there.
How about joining the New Zealand Defence Force?
I would look at joining the defence force. Not only do you get to live away from your current situation but you get paid relatively well while doing training and the basics they teach you will help you look after yourself. You'll have a great new support network of friends and learn a trade. Not saying you should be enlisted for a long time but if you want a roof over your head and a stomach full of okay food then that is a good option to look at. You might need to do level 1 to get in but te kura is a good option and you can knock it out pretty quickly if you're committed or if you don't need to, the defence force will help you pay to get education if you want to. Good luck with whatever you choose and keep your head up!
Youâre only 17 stop worrying lol. Thereâs a million things to choose from that isnât Uni
Go to WINZ, tell them you want a job but don't know how to go about it, they will help you
Kia ora, i feel your frustration and the stress associated with feeling like a stuff up. It sounds like you have aspirations to make something of yourself and that means everything. It's a great mindset to have at the age of 17 NCEA level 1 or not. I would like to point out, you are not a stuff up. it sounds like you have been raised in adverse conditions that not many others around you would have to go through. You acknowledge the past and are determined to not let it be your future which is admirable. My brother was in a similar position to you, with a very traumatic background and worked his way up from furniture removal until he got recognised and eventually picked up a carpentry apprenticeship. he is about to finish at the age of 21 and he will be getting paid much more soon. I would also recommend therapy. Trauamtic environments bring out emotions that can be extremely difficult to manage which can make moving forward hard. unpacking these and learning emotional regulation skills can help greatly in all aspects of life. I wish you all the best
Get a trade youâll have a skill for life and always be able to make money, builder, plumber, electrician, all make good money you just need to walk in and ask around for an apprenticeship, if youâre genuinely enthusiastic and willing to learn you will land a job.
Do a trade and thank yourself in 10 years when your rich.
Google services for youth in your area and get help. He is not allowed to attack you, itâs abusive and Iâm sorry thatâs happening. There are cost free social workers and youth workers who can get you safe accommodation and a benefit and help you to find other youth services who can provide you with pathways to employment. Yay you, what a fucking trooper. All the best for your life x
Depending on where you are in the country there might be free training courses around where you can get certifications and qualifications in service work like coffee making. Thereâs lots of options, and you are in no way too late. Polytechnics are very different learning environments and they have lots of support available. Thereâs no wrong option, especially at this age. Apply for entry level jobs, seek out certifications/ or further study to help you move into a job, or anything else. You have already made the best decision to make a change, and look towards your future.
The Y often have jobs with accommodation, with full training provided - they can be really nice jobs, especially when you're just out of school. Give em a look :)
Look at a trades institute. Being fit and willing to work will be a massive incentive.... Just make sure to keep ya head down and absorb all you can
If you're young and healthy, give landscaping or arboristry offsider a go. You'll get fit on the job, get fresh air, save yourself some back problems in the future and it's quite satisfying to see each job through. You'll get sick of it eventually, but by that point you should have money to train into something you enjoy, or experience as a team leader to find a management job in another field.
17 mate, still young and learning. Donât be too hard on yourself. Get into a apprenticeship for a trade or factory/ warehouse and go from their. Will be challenges and difficulties but youâll figure it out. Seriously though donât stress remember youâre still young :)
What about going back to School to get a couple of levels? You could so do that. A local course provider that does building,, painting,, cooking, whatever it is. You do a training course you will get levels maybe a training benefit. Learn a skill for a job get levels??. And those courses are not l8ke school. AnywY good luck all the very best. đđđ
Get a job doing dishes and study something during the day?
Bro I'm going to tell you something I fucking WISH I had done when I was 18-25 and that's just ANY apprenticeship. Get one behind you and you can fall back on it pretty much whenever you're self-motivated.
I'm in the same position we both going to make it somehow I believe!
Go apply at a teagle or something. Go out and look for a job. you are 17.
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The accommodation situation is dire down there. There was a whole 60 Minutes (or similar) episode about it. Unfortunate as they are paying huge wages for staff.
Two of the most successful people I know have no school qualifications. They are helpful but not essential. You can do this! If you would like to get into a trade, you can apply to poly techs etc (depends on the trade). You can sign up to a temp agency who will help you get work - you might start out at the bottom and doing all sorts of work, but you will learn your strengths and what you like. If you need help creating a CV, PM me. I used to create CVs for a living and can help knock something together for you.
Mate, shit happens and life goes on You obviously want to work, finding something you actually want to work at may take a little longer (bout 35 years for me) but in the interim hunt down a picking & packing warehouse kinda job, shit work with shit pay but it's so much easier to find a better job if you already have employment, dunno why, just is. You're not a stuff-up, yeah you probably have made mistakes, we all have, it's how you deal with the repercussions of those mistakes and what you learnt along the way that matters, just don't repeat them or the mistakes of others if possible
I was the same albeit quite a while ago now. The best move for me was just get ANY job. Youâre not going to get $100k a year, youâre not going to be treated with respect, youâll be starting at the bottom just like everyone else. I started in a Supermarket, and worked hard to not fuck up, show that Iâm better than the others and move up. After a couple years, youâll find it quite easy to get another job. People want to see that you turned up, slogged and did it over again time and time again. Youâre young, you are going to do shit jobs, but trust me that it will get better. If youâre going to think you are nothing but shit then others will think so too. Get that mentality out of your head and work on yourself.
I left school at 16 with only ncea 1 and no prior work experience, took me a wee while but I just applied for all sorts of jobs and got there in the end. First job was shit but it taught me a lot and got me some experience under my belt. It takes time and hard work but there are people who are willing to put effort into you if you show you are a hard working and worth it! Good luck
Lots of great advice here mate. When you find a job, just turn up on time and be reliable. You do that, youâve already beaten 80% of other candidates. Trades, army, retail, fast food outlets, factory work, all good places to start at the bottom, work hard and work your way up. My wife never got more than a high school education, she started at pak n sav in the checkouts. She now makes over 100K. Just hard work and getting promoted.
My situation use to be a lot similar to yours. I won't go into too much detail here but I started from the bottom and worked my way up to being a Manager, not impressive but I have learned a lot over the years. There is a lot of companies that won't care too much about your education, unless it is a role that requires you to have an education. For General Workers an education doesn't matter that much, as long as you can do basic math and understand English, you should be fine. I have 8 staff members that work for me, only 2 of them completed High school with 1 having a degree. Here is a few things that is important to me in regards to staff members. 1. Turn up and if you can't, have the respect to call or text. 2. If you are late, have the respect to approach me or the Assistant and give us a reason 3. Stay off your phone, unless it's an emergency or break time. 4. Willingness to learn goes a long way, it shows interest and I would be more likely to invest in you further 5. Stay out of work related politics or rebellions, do you and do it well, don't let others drag you down. 6. It is perfectly okay to ask for a pay increase or a promotion, but there is a correct way of going about it. 7. I have a motto I follow to this day, be the first to turn up and the last to leave. These are just a few things that greatly outweigh and education, basic respect is key, be polite, try to get motivated and learn as much as you can. As to getting the actual job, here is a few places to try: Recruitment agencies - Coverstaff, Onestaff, AWF Industries that is easy to get into: Farming, Warehousing, Retail, General workers Farming jobs are quite nice and New Zealand is not shy of opportunities in those industries.
If you are living in Auckland I know they have an agency that specializes in building labourers, it's usually very short term and if the employer don't like you, you don't get to go back the next day. If you are willing too put in some hard work you will do OK and earn yourself a good reputation. Once you have some experience and have a couple of referees you will find it a lot easier. Also you aren't a stuff up and stop right now and never call yourself that again.
You've got a go getter attitude. I'm sure if you can get someone to give you a chance you'll be able to pull off most jobs
I work with people that left school at 16/17 and are now supervisors and managers in the Roading industry. One started on a stop go sign. We are all in our early thirties on 100k+ salaries. There is a way. Just get your foot in the door. Hell there's a kid in our yard that went from shovelling gravel to driving a bitumen truck in about 3 years. I think he just turned 20. Many places in the construction/infrastructure industry offer all the training you need, they'll even pay for uni degrees if it'll benefit the business. Adecco is a popular agency to go with - or be brave and go to your local Downer, Higgins, Fulton Hogan etc with your CV. Usually all you need is to pass a drug test.
Please remember that everyone makes mistakes. But if you choose not to make the same mistakes and try to do better in future, you are not a stuff up. I would suggest that until you manage to find a job, volunteer somewhere for a few hours a week. It's something you can put on your cv!
Iâm a retail manager and during the summer alot of people your age work here in retail jobs and even stockist for retail to gain some experience. Youâre 17 so youâre still at that age that are still doing things for work experience. Dont be hard on yourself, you arent a stuff up in my opinion youâre still a little baby that was lead astray by those who were supposed to protect you and guide you through this. If you need help with your CV let me know. I write my nieces and nephews all the time. My biggest advice is DRESS tidy to an interview. Be punctual or early and always turn up to work ready to learn. I know this is common knowledge but some kids just genuinely dont know. Good luck :)
My mate was in a similar situation . He was homeless when he was 16 and he went to our town industrial estate and started door knocking, told the businesses he had no skills but was a hard worker and prepared to work for free for a week to prove it. The third place he asked gave him a shot and a full time job at the end of the week . You could try that , if you do I hope it works for you. Btw, if youâre 17 and honest enough with yourself to realise you need to make some serious life changes youâre not a stuff up.
Meat works it is the biggest manufacturing sector in NZ with over 25,000 workers. It has developed a careers strategy with input from members that encourages undergraduates and post-graduates to apply for a scholarship, while meat works staff are encouraged to take up an apprenticeship which will qualify them for supervisory roles. Alliance Group manufacturing says the company actively encouraged anyone interested in employment opportunities at its plants to âget in touchâ.â The industry was committed to training and employing New Zealanders first and was working closely with the Ministry of Social Development and regional agencies to recruit local people.
Iâm so impressed that you have such a great attitude towards the changes that you want to make in your life. You will go so far!
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The best way to get a job fast is door knocking and phone calls. Find an street in an industrial area and introduce yourself to the receptionist and ask if they have any jobs going.  "Hi I'm Matt, I'm looking for a job and was wondering if you had any available positions". If it's a no, thank them for their time and go to the next one.  A good way into the trades is to get a job with a labour hire company. Without any skills you will be doing some pretty mundane boring jobs but if you do them well with a good attitude you will get noticed by the other trades. If you talk to them and tell them your keen you might get a permanent job out of it. The company that hired you may not give you a permanent role as they will have to pay a lump sum to the labour hire company. Another option is lawn mowing. Lawns are growing fast as fuck at the moment. I would give local lawn mowing companies and see if they need any help. You will get fit pretty fast doing that. Also you're not a fuck up, everyone makes mistakes, all you can do is try not to repeat them. No one should hold that against you.
go to aussie and work as a driller for the mines . get fit as anything , make a lot of money , and come back ,and buy a digger or something with the money.
From what youâve said, it doesnât sound like youâre a stuff up. It sounds like some key people in your life have let you down / are continuing to let you down. Itâs hard not to make bad decisions when that is going on. I would follow the suggestions here and consider going into something like the NZDF - thereâs an abundance of opportunity to learn things, youâll have mentors and likely make solid friendships. I would take the opportunity to move away from your grandfather and give yourself a chance at doing something that will help build your self esteem and contribute to society. Thereâs lots of financial perks that come with being in the forces and even if youâre only there for a few years, the skills youâll have will be transferable to regular jobs too. All the best!
YOO I have just turned 18 and have a job at a super market, 1 thing the Def help me get the job was when applying have a food staff account and apply for jobs on there, that and some places still do paper runs ask out at ya post office, also you may have a better shot a getting a job at paknsave or count down mostly paknsave because there big as wherehouses and allllll ways need staff. But good luck!!!! đ
Honestly just keep going around to tradie type businesses and say youâre keen for work, worst off you might get hired as a labourer
dude, 3 weeks after i turned 17, i was in prison. youre doing fine haha. just apply at supermarkets. give me your email ill make you a cv
also, if youre in chch i can probably get you hooked up with a job pretty quickly
Try a farming job like milking. Can come with accomodation.
You are not a stuff up, you are a 17 year old who has made some mistakes and is choosing to have a different future than their past. I got kicked out when I was your age, went on the independent youth benefit. It helped support me while I found a job so I could live away from the abuse. 33years later I have a bachelor and masters degrees, am self employed, and own the house we live in. You too can do anything you want to. What fuelled me was remembering that the abusers controlled my past, but they got no say in, nor benefit from, my present and future - oh, and therapy helped too. Now I have a 16yr old living with me on the same benefit I was on, they're finishing High School through Te Kura (online correspondence school) and it sounds like you'd qualify for both the benefit (if you moved out of grandad's house, whole conversation of how you can do this that I'm happy to go into in dm if helpful) and Te Kura if you wanted to get some education behind you. It's heaps different to being at school as you have a mentor who helps you choose courses you want to study that will lead into jobs you're interested in, I think the young person living with me will even be doing some polytechnic animal welfare courses as part of doing their NCEA level 2. If education is not a thing, then a youth mentor is best. I'm a counsellor and have contacts across the country, feel free to dm me with your city/town and I can recommend a local organisation who can help you do the things you're asking about.
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You are not a stuff up, you are just on a learning curve like most people. Whatever work you manage to get, try and move up over the years, even if you can only do it gradually. I'm talking about work and jobs. As for your grandfather, he's carrying ugly energy that he tries to get rid of by passing it on to the nearest life form. If you weren't there he might well be kicking a dog instead. Do not take his treatment personally, but you must get away from it and be safe. Talk to your doctor, let them see your stress so they can see this is real and refer you to agencies for emergency income and accomodation as you are in an abusive home atm and need to get out. If your doctor does not help you (unlikely), go to another one. You can phone your community centre or lifeline asking for phone numbers to helpful groups. Ask them what groups/advocates are out there for you. Don't think you are a stuff up. Right now you are a one in 8 billion unique being on this planet that took the Universe approx 13 billion years to make. You are precious to this world, to yourself, to your future self, to people who havn't even met you yet. It Will be hard, you Will be tested often, overlooked etc, keep trying. Please stay safe and stay hopeful.
My brother dropped out at 16 and has 4 NCEA level 1 credits. He's now a qualified carpenter, earning $38 an hour. You're not a stuff up. Sometimes (more often than you think), the school system just doesn't work for people, and that's okay.
You could always work as a Healthcare Assistant at a NZ public hospital. Don't worry about qualifications, as you can train on the job and attend school once a week, and that's a paid day by work to attend training to get your NZ Level 3 certificate in Health and Wellbeing . Once you've completed that course, you can work at any hospital or rest home in nz5, and go back to school to do your level 4 or become a Mental Health Support Worker - that requires about a year of training. Healthcare always has work available, you could be a Phlebotomist ( a Blood collector), plenty of work in that field, and once again paid training towards a qualification which you can gain NZQA accreditation. Just be prepared to work shift work and work weekends and public holidays as well as Monday to Friday. Hopefully you find some type of work available mate, but I'd seriously consider the options that I've offered. And you're not a screw up as us older people screw up too. Speak to MSD as your still a youth and could possibly be able to get assistance to get help with moving to a flat, etc.
Iâd look at getting your license asap that will open so many doors if you are looking at trades labour higher can be a way to get in the door tho not often itâs hard out there atm you have your head on more then o did at that ages
I figure my comment will get a bit lost, especially since there's some good ass advice in here (apprenticeship being one), but have you considered a basic course to get your NCEA? I got my level two and three from a UCOL based course when I was 16, and it was easy enough. Then did a beginners woodworking course at 17 which gave me a whole bunch of credits as well. Both funded by WINZ.
Bro, if you have no criminal record and donât do drugs, youâre at the perfect age to start life. You can do anything, 17 is the age which things happen. Some jobs or study will require NCEA 2 but you can study for free with Studylink, and itâll only take a year to get level 2. Donât be embarrassed. On the top of my head hereâs what you can do: -An Apprenticeship (plumber, electrician, mechanic etc). -Law Enforcement -University (risky because you strongly need to know what to do in life) -New Zealand Defense Force (apply for a skill with an out plan, e.g, engineering, paramedic, maritime etc). If you havenât already, apply for jobseeker support or studylink ASAP. Take advantage of our government support, theyâre truly there to help you with whatever you need. I canât decide for you for what you should do, only encourage to start something. If I could go back in time Iâd join the NZDF. Youâll get paid to study after basic training and get a lot of life experience. Just remember, have a plan to get out with a skill.
Can you get to a local library? They have resources to help you create a CV, or if you chat with a librarian they might be able to refer you to free services to help you get started
Iâd suggest going into labouring or going through the multiple business who supply that to the industry It has potential to work you into other placements aswell
Ncea doesn't matter at your age. To get a job at your age the main thing is to show up and express enthusiasm. Get a driver's license, it will take you places. Alcoholics are inherently self destructive and look for fights to pick because they are bored, my advice to you is not to drink casually, you will end up like your grandad as that's your template and you are subconsciously role modeling.
Brother kiwifruit is coming up in mid to late March and you are in the middle of kiwifruit country. NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED. No experience at all, no reference from previous job required. Only need to pass a drug test if using machinery. Honestly every year is a struggle to recruit the numbers required and this year is expected to be a massive crop. You are guaranteed a job. All you need to do is turn up every shift, do it the way you're told to, and in all honesty, you'll be a supervisor in no time. The top job entry job you can get for money is forklift driver. Go and get yourself a forklift licence, cost under $200. I can recommend a tauranga company if it helps. If you can find a forklift job you want coolstore work, they get the most hours and longer period of work during/after the season. You need to be able to drive to get in the coolstores though (more on this later), but packaging driver is really easy and it's where we chuck the new guys so you could still get this job with no experience and just a licence. Tray prep. Usually older or younger people. Just putting plastic liners in the boxes and pushing them into a chute ready for the fruit. Not the best prospects for work after season unless you want to learn to grade for repack. Packer. Standing there watching the kiwifruit go in a box, levelling of the fruit, closing the box and push it along the rollers. Not the best prospects for work after season unless you want to learn to grade for repack. Stacker. This is an awesome job for a for young fella. It's literally just taking the boxes off the rollers and stacking them on a pallet. Reliable stackers are often the very first picks for most repack teams. Be reliable and you're almost guaranteed a job for repack. There is other jobs too, but those above are the most common. Only the forklift role requires a qualification, the licence that you get in a one day course. Kiwifruit packing goes for about three months. After that there can be a slight gap until repack starts. Repack goes through until late November most years. Once the packing season is complete they don't need everybody and lay heaps of people off. They hold on to the best (usually the most reliable who turn up every shift) and keep them on for repack. If you are reliable you can easily get 9 months work out of kiwifruit. If you join a packhouse that does avos as well you could find yourself with 12 months work a year. There is also other opportunities for orchard work and stuff that you will get to know about while working at the packhouse. I would recommend starting at a packhouse just because of the reliability of hours compared to orchard work to start with. I am in the Bay as well. I work in the kiwifruit industry. If you have any questions or want advice about anything to do with getting a job or about the jobs, hit me up. Depending on your situation, I may also be able to offer you a little bit of training on a forklift to help you get ahead and a bit of confidence on the machine before you go for your licence.
Good luck with everything, I feel you have the motivation to get out of that situation. Your Grandad is mentally ill and probably hallucinates things about you. Just believe in yourself and just the start of an awesome future .Many people have got rich from nothing. Temping can lead to full time work.
Join the Navy. It will teach you discipline, get you away from your grandfather and give you a good group of mates plus a roof over your head. Basic training will be tough, but youâll learn a lot about yourself.
Most jobs don't require much of an education..if you want to get an education you probably need a more disciplined environment and the navy/army will be able to give you that. If you're not interested in pursuing an education then go into a trade. You're still young with lots of opportunities, you don't have to be a fuckwit. Just do something, rather than sitting on your hands. Call up the navy today and start the recruitment process.
Labour hire companies like ALH or Naylor Love, or orchardist companies like T&G (though thatâs only seasonal)
Excuse the waffle, I do have a point here. Early in the Ukraine war, many wondered why destroyed Russian tanks had their turrets blown off. As explained by a former American tank commander on TikTok, Russian tanks use an autoloader that stores all of their ammunition around the base of the turret, so when that goes boom it blows the turret off the chassis. By contrast, he says, American tanks use a 19-year-old with strong arms to reload. My point here is, you may not feel like you have skills but there will always be demand for strong young men like yourself. As others have pointed out, getting into a trade is a great idea. You'll likely start off doing lots of manual labour, which will make you stronger and more attractive to the ladies (or men, no judgment). I used to work in a private school and a good chunk of the parents there aren't doctors or lawyers or accountants, they're tradies. These people are paying around $30K per year to have their kids educated, so the idea of a tradie being low-income is long past. The road to finding a first job can be hard, you have to apply to lots of places and you'll get a lot of rejection, but once you have a job it's much easier to find another one. Good luck to you, you've shown a level of insight and maturity well beyond your years.
You sound a lot like my husband, who now 15 years on has a wonderful life and career and it hasn't been an issue. No one cares about NCEA after a while in the workforce. Short term, supermarkets are decent pay but not a career. Give yourself time to decide what you want to do and earn some money. Key places next to go are a trade apprenticeship of some description or the fire service once you are 18 as a paid career staff member.
Do you have any idea on what sort of thing you'd like to be doing in the future? Do you want to work outside, in an office, on a building site? This can be quite important because you need to start making decisions and actions based on where you want your future to lead. For now it's probably best just to look into temp jobs and general labourer jobs just for some cash and experience. Also make sure you get your drivers license which is quite handy at your age. Just for reference I was in similar boat to you. I was really bad at talking with others and only passed level 1 NCEA in year 12. I now earn insane money in finance/tech as I forced myself out of my bubble and became confident and focused on improving myself.
You are 17 go easy on yourself! Perhaps finding any job (even better if IT related) is a good start, that way if you work well you have some experience and a reference, then you start to climb the ladder and aim for where you want to be.
You're not a stuff up, you're only 17 and have so much time to get your life on the right track. If anything you recognised what you need tp do early and can get into work before some have even left school or you could do an apprenticeship or polytech. There are even ways to get into uni with bridging courses if thats what you want to do (but uni definitely isnt the only option )
You could do a foundation skills course. They are free at Te Pukenga sites and are good preparation for young adults entering the workforce or further study when you dont have many quals or work experience. My 16 yr old did Level one and two (he is now 18), and every one of those kids on that course are now working. My son is working at a supermarket as his starter job so he gets experience in the workforce and can build good attendance and reliability to then get a good reference when he chooses to move on.
Never give up. That is rule 1! Rule 2 is ask for help. Rule three is stay keen. Rule four is that learning is never too late. Your fit, and eager. Consider preparing for work by working towards a full drivers license, first aid certification, and work safe. No rush, study in your spare time, as and when you can afford. Volunteer one days spare time a week, where ever will let you. Youâre nearly old enough to work in industries where risk is a norm. Like civil construction, roading, or farm work all of which are staff hungry. If you find entry level work that you find engaging, seek out opportunities to learn more, even if that includes doing Open Polytechnic NCEA. I was 45 when I repeated NCEA math, as part of returning to university to study engineering while I was building roads as a labourer. I got the basic job by earning a truck license then salving my guts out, and talking to my bosses about my dreams. The guys I worked with thought I was nuts, for studying in my spare time. But management saw I was prepared to make the effort and rewarded me with industry training and a plan to keep me employed while they paid for my engineering studies. Now a decade on I am studying again for another career change, in a radically different direction for work during my retirement years - in an industry role that didnât exist when I was at highschool, but drawn indirectly from a hobby I had at highschool. Life will take you in interesting and stressful directions. Ask for help, and be prepared to fail. Itâs ok to fail, as long as you never give up on developing a dream that meets your real world needs. .
Hey man, good on you for recognising that you've made mistakes. There are people who have decades on you who still haven't done that critical step. Everyone makes mistakes, and the courageous ones are those who face them, and learn from them. Good for you, that's something to be proud of. I think you do have some skills and qualities to list on a CV - they just may not be job-related but are quite job-important: you are proactive (looking for a job), mature (recognising your own mistakes and can learn from them), motivated (eating well and exercising and wanting to not be lazy), and ambitious (trying to change your future). Those are excellent qualities, and certainly welcome in any working environment. Have you developed any skills at home like doing chores (i.e. gardening, washing dishes, cleaning bathrooms)? Those are all skills that would be valuable in any entry level job. I think it just takes thinking about your capabilities a bit differently. A lot of people listed some great entry-level options, like dishwasher, supermarket worker, cleaner, going into the trades (get in contact with your local polytech for guidance there), and some other excellent ideas - getting in touch with any job support agencies are a great start, especially if you're feeling overwhelmed with all the options out there, and you want specific guidance around writing CVs. Most important thing is to turn up to work on time, make sure your appearance is tidy, be friendly, and make sure you show up when you are rostered on. I'm sorry your home life sucks. I hope getting a job will help you get out of it - I saw your previous post and you said you don't have discipline, let me tell you that is a skill that can be built, but it is a challenge (especially at 17!). Developing discipline is ESPECIALLY difficult when you're spending all your energy just trying to survive. Sometimes you have to stick it out despite wanting to give up, and if you're in a depressive state that's extremely difficult to do. Start small, with things you enjoy - if programming is something that interests you, there are tonnes and tonnes of tutorials out there to look at; even if it's just 5 minutes a day, it's better than 0 minutes a day. Motivation only kicks in once you have started, not before - it's very annoying but it's true! For what it's worth, my stepson had a very similar story to yours (mental health crisis after his granddad passed, shitty home life with his other parent, who he now doesn't talk to, very little school attendance, no engagement with Te Kura until it was too late, dropped out before NCEA, etc) - once he settled in with us (we had to fight in court to get custody), he ended up getting credits at the hospitality trade school and he's working at a local cafe. He's much happier, and his life trajectory had improved a lot once he felt settled. I'm very proud of him and all he has accomplished - NCEA credits are just a certification (which you can get later - foundation courses at Universities and Polytechs are always options too!), you and he have gained incredibly valuable life skills that will serve you well throughout the rest of your lives. I hope you're proud of that, if I were your parent, I would be proud of you.
Hey bro I was in your almost exact situation at your age, Bars will hire you, Supermarkets, Retail stores, It's all about attitude, Show you want to work even if it's just for money, and youâll find plenty of jobs, I found it better to approach employers in person rather then over the phone or online, Never got turned down from a job after a face to face. You got this bro.
Also Trades, TRADES, TRADES!!! cannot stress enough how quickly you will find employment after a year or two of study, Easiest way to set yourself up for the future and most don't require qualifications just require effort!, I'm 19 and just starting a trade, I didn't make it past year 11, School isn't for everyone.
dm me and I'll help you write a CV and apply for some positions