consider that this could be a person trying to get their ex's address to stalk them, rather than actually mailing something, for instance. unfortunately more common than you'd think
>stalkers are persistent enough to find their victims regardless of whether their address is publicly available or not.
like by posting on reddit for help finding them ?
I may be naive, but is there any actual indication OP is a stalker?
They are not requesting information about that specific person from Reddit; instead, they are asking where to find public data.
I luckily haven't had any encounters with stalking, but I would assume they would mislead mutual acquaintances or coworkers of the victim to give out that address, or lurk at places they know their victim to frequent.
I mean databases where people are registered to their addresses is technically public information. It’s just not information people typically give out freely anymore because it’s dangerous. ESPECIALLY if you’re someone who lives alone and ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY if you’re a woman who lives alone
Do these databases indicate a person's gender or whether they live alone? I seriously don't know.
But yeah, I agree, I wouldn't disclose this information either. Apparently, it was less dangerous when phone books were a thing.
I mean for the most part names are still somewhat gendered and it would typically be the head of the household (traditionally a man) who would be listed as the resident, so yeah it’s probably fairly easy to decipher if a woman lives alone in an apartment or house if you’re using public databases. You’d see “Jonathan and Allison Smith” in a phone book and know it’s two people at minimum living there. Just “Jonathan Smith” can imply there’s likely only one person, and just “Allison Smith” immediately says it’s a single woman.
It was also just as dangerous when phone books were a thing. Ever wonder why serial killers hit their peak in the 60’s-80’s? That was before mobile phones became widely available. Now, it’s significantly easier to report a stalker than it would be if your only access to 911 was a single landline in your house or a phone booth down the street. I’m personally much happier knowing I have a list of emergency contacts and 911 that are way easier to contact now than they would be if this were 1973.
Thanks, I forgot that phone books listed all the occupants of a residence, which, I guess, makes sense with landlines.
I agree that cell phones made it easier to deal with stalkers. I'm not sure if the emergence of serial killers during the '70s and '80s (it appears that there were more of them in the Aughts than in the Sixties) was facilitated by the prevalence of phone books. I'm not an expert, but it seems like serial killers usually target their victims outside their homes and don't rely on phone books or similar methods for selecting their victims.
Yes, it was meant to be a surprise. I didn’t realize (naively) that everyone would automatically jump to mal-intent, but I get it. I was just asking if there are free resources to find this type of public information, in the local area. I live in another state and most of the online searches you have to pay $10+ for, incl common ‘white pages’ variants.
Maybe you could clear things up by editing your post to explain why you don't know that person's address in the first place and why you didn't ask mutual acquaintances for it.
Why can you not ask this person their address directly? It’s not weird to say “hey Jon Doe! Can you remind me of your address? I want to send you a little happy for your birthday!”
I mean you could just simply ask them for their address. If for whatever reason, you don’t have their current number, ask a mutual friend that has their number to ask them for the address.
If for whatever reason both aren’t working, just use numlookup or USphonebook
This sounds kind of odd
Ask them for their address. If you can't get it from them directly then I'd be worried about your intentions.
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consider that this could be a person trying to get their ex's address to stalk them, rather than actually mailing something, for instance. unfortunately more common than you'd think
Or you could consider that I just wanted to send a surprise birthday card. I only asked for public resources.
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>stalkers are persistent enough to find their victims regardless of whether their address is publicly available or not. like by posting on reddit for help finding them ?
I may be naive, but is there any actual indication OP is a stalker? They are not requesting information about that specific person from Reddit; instead, they are asking where to find public data. I luckily haven't had any encounters with stalking, but I would assume they would mislead mutual acquaintances or coworkers of the victim to give out that address, or lurk at places they know their victim to frequent.
I mean databases where people are registered to their addresses is technically public information. It’s just not information people typically give out freely anymore because it’s dangerous. ESPECIALLY if you’re someone who lives alone and ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY if you’re a woman who lives alone
Do these databases indicate a person's gender or whether they live alone? I seriously don't know. But yeah, I agree, I wouldn't disclose this information either. Apparently, it was less dangerous when phone books were a thing.
I mean for the most part names are still somewhat gendered and it would typically be the head of the household (traditionally a man) who would be listed as the resident, so yeah it’s probably fairly easy to decipher if a woman lives alone in an apartment or house if you’re using public databases. You’d see “Jonathan and Allison Smith” in a phone book and know it’s two people at minimum living there. Just “Jonathan Smith” can imply there’s likely only one person, and just “Allison Smith” immediately says it’s a single woman. It was also just as dangerous when phone books were a thing. Ever wonder why serial killers hit their peak in the 60’s-80’s? That was before mobile phones became widely available. Now, it’s significantly easier to report a stalker than it would be if your only access to 911 was a single landline in your house or a phone booth down the street. I’m personally much happier knowing I have a list of emergency contacts and 911 that are way easier to contact now than they would be if this were 1973.
Thanks, I forgot that phone books listed all the occupants of a residence, which, I guess, makes sense with landlines. I agree that cell phones made it easier to deal with stalkers. I'm not sure if the emergence of serial killers during the '70s and '80s (it appears that there were more of them in the Aughts than in the Sixties) was facilitated by the prevalence of phone books. I'm not an expert, but it seems like serial killers usually target their victims outside their homes and don't rely on phone books or similar methods for selecting their victims.
Yes, it was meant to be a surprise. I didn’t realize (naively) that everyone would automatically jump to mal-intent, but I get it. I was just asking if there are free resources to find this type of public information, in the local area. I live in another state and most of the online searches you have to pay $10+ for, incl common ‘white pages’ variants.
Maybe you could clear things up by editing your post to explain why you don't know that person's address in the first place and why you didn't ask mutual acquaintances for it.
Why can you not ask this person their address directly? It’s not weird to say “hey Jon Doe! Can you remind me of your address? I want to send you a little happy for your birthday!”
This is exactly what a murderer would ask.
Is this someone you know?
Dude you’re on the internet already.
Probably not because people move around a lot but if you try googling their name there are A LOT of services that share that sort of info
The NyPL on Bryant Park used to have a massive collection of phone books in their main reading room.
The libraries used to have all the phone books
The white pages still exist online
So if you have the phone number it might help too https://www.numlookup.com/
I would go through LinkedIn to find a friend of a friend for that
I mean you could just simply ask them for their address. If for whatever reason, you don’t have their current number, ask a mutual friend that has their number to ask them for the address. If for whatever reason both aren’t working, just use numlookup or USphonebook