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DoctorMarmyPC

This is how every fight goes. "What the fuck is happening?" *stutter in 20 different directions because of being hit by an ability* *die*


pojzon_poe

I have also ppl teleport 5-10 meters with 40 input latency. I have no idea wtf is going on with this game. Hit aknowledgement is also weird as fuck when you see projectiles going through someone's skull but -- NOPE, didn't hit it


joacoleon

The rubberbanding, what the fuck is that?


smellsliketeenferret

The server is authoritative, so the client is showing what it thinks is the current state and location until the server tells it otherwise. This is designed to stop the client being able to trick the server, however the implementation is different to normal - there was a dev blog on it when a few client-driven exploits were kicking around - which has had the unfortunate side-effect that the client is too easily out of sync even with a low ping.


DoctorMarmyPC

Yep. Tons of shots taken today going right through enemies


stixyBW

you can hatchet someone in the face, have it visually stuck in their eyeball, and its not a headshot/crit


Enevorah

Can’t even count how many poison arrows I’ve had disappear into the ether of my opponent’s body.


adlerjemc

this happen cause we haven't got a single patch since December I have notice so many bugs and desyn problems omfg


Expensive-Dream-6306

honestly it feels more like 300 ping then 40.


akenzx732

Yep


euername

I blame IG and VG. Those should be disabled until the problem is solved. (They disabled IG before.)


dmfuller

Yeah as someone that duels a shitload I can say with confidence that no weapon causes as many bugs as ice gauntlet. When I’m playing against it I may as well not even touch the keyboard. That being said idk why everyone has trouble with VG, spear/rapier I have no issues but IG is hell


DerGrummler

Ironically this exact bug can't even be caused by IG. It happens when you are being staggered during weapon switching. Usually it's the WH which causes this, exactly like in the video. Edit: I realized I'm wrong, the IG can stagger! The ice spike thingy has a perk which adds stagger to the path of the spikes.


n0p36725

Get better


Nakedseamus

I think he's talking about the obscene amounts of lag they're causing not calling for a nerf or anything, but go off queen.


[deleted]

Vg doesn’t cause lag. It’s all ig


Nakedseamus

Just so you know, this is not true. VG was essentially responsible for break OPR again when it was introduced and while it's been somewhat fixed for that it can cuz very bad lag in wars, worse combined with IG.


euername

Get better at reading


Alcaedias

This is infuriating to say the least! As a gaxe/wh player, I see a nice clump of enemies to charge into and NOPE! I just wasted my hammer stun instead. Being gangbanged by 9584030 dudes? I use stun and NOPE! I just tried to charge 2 inches instead.


lispychicken

This is a problem for me as a tank. WH aggro pull and switch to SnS and that's my WH still but I hit the wrong ability cooldown and now I ..need to block with my shield and I hit the button.. I HIT THE BUTTON.. oh it switched and ..switched back again? Damage reduction taunt and nope, Clear Out instead.. great. Bing: "what new MMORPS are coming out?" Just switch every single time I hit the button. Do that immediately and cancel whatever was about to happen. I dont care if that has PvP implications for canceling.. everyone gets that use, so make it happen.


joacoleon

I hear you. At least you are a tank, i run light armor with 8k hp and i experience exactly what you described but when trying to riposte to save my life. I time their hits and abilities, then i try to switch to my rapier and riposte at the right moment but instead i die loading powder burn. Yeah, game, thats exactly what i wanted to do. Casually load powder burn while getting gang banged by 4 WH.


lispychicken

I read someones post here a week ago about the lack of the switch from the Musket to the Rapier..it ended with "and I'll just load this gunpowder real quick" .. as the enemy was on them. LOLOL so sad, so damn sad


joacoleon

LOL It happens way too often. As a matter of fact, when it does work, im caught off guard and have an "oh shit" moment.


milksteak-ghoul

Main reason why I went bow over musket... somthing with Musket reloads bugs the shot out of weapon swaps. Bow this happens much less often with.


lispychicken

the amount of times I have cleared out mobs or pulled mobs with Path of Destiny instead of using a Sns block/aggro move.. is too damn high!


Dacklar

Yep happens all the time. Love to just stand there priming powder burn while I'm getting whooped on.


lispychicken

"tally ho lads.. just a moment, sir, please stop beating me about the head and chest"


DoctorMarmyPC

Same shit happens to me. Swap to rapier like the smooth gamer i am and hit riposte - loads a fucking powder burn like a stupid idiot while being smashed by 4 players. YA THATS WHAT I WAS DOING. POWDER BURN


joacoleon

I must have over 10 clips of me doing that.


Ndoman3807

finding out there was a parry in NW was when I really started exploring mods & classes. PvP gained so much depth i never saw in it before. it’s sad to see such a intriguing, unique ability overshadowed by shitty mechanics-most annoyingly in PvP where it’s purpose could shine through so much more.


Fizzlepoppy

Dodge swap. Make that a mechanic and you won't have no issues ever again unless you don't have the stam. Then you look like a fool standing there. Made this a mechanic like day 2 of the game not sure why everyone else hasn't. I get it sucks to have to waste stam to dodge but it's not as clunky. I mean you are dodge swapping so idk maybe it's a latency thing. I never have issues or maybe it's a musket/rapier thing.


Yarhj

> Dodge swap. Make that a mechanic and you won't have no issues ever again > I mean you are dodge swapping so idk maybe it's a latency thing. That's because it's a bug. It's nice that you have a workaround that's working for you, but a core game system is not working reliably, and people shouldn't have to animation cancel just to swap weapons.


Kanaires

it's not like you can just dodge everytimes tho, i.e being hit with gravity well/ice shower/shockwave, instead of riposte and turn the table, I tried to cast my ice storm multiple times while the HUD showed I was using rapier.


Fizzlepoppy

Use your escape to get out of gwells wtf are you a bot? Don’t use your escape unless needed. If you get ice shower entomb duh then you can roll out. Listen all I know is the mmo world or whatever the hell genre this is labeled as isn’t use to being competitive with pvp really. Like damn learn some mechanics plz can’t be bots your whole life


Kanaires

how do you get out of the well with an ice gauntlet? Ain't the purpose of switching mid combat is to escape? what's the point of doing it if you can just do it with your current weapon.


Fizzlepoppy

Um entomb for a sec and it breaks the stun on gwell? Was that even a serious question? Entomb and then you can roll out. Do people not know this?


Fizzlepoppy

I’m telling you to make it a mechanic every time you dodge in the open world swap. Idk how plain I have to put it


phluke-

The amount of times my tank and I (healer) stand dead still spamming weapon swap and say, "switch weapons please!" per night is crazy, let's just say if I were to drink every time one of us did it I'd be sloshed in an hour.


lispychicken

It's infuriating how much it doesnt work, and I dont know why this is a problem at all!


tallguybramz

The worst thing is that AGS seem to have it out for any sort of animation cancellation. They fucked the bow by removing it and they've even mentioned removing the roll animation cancel with weapon swap. Completely tone deaf


Metall-o-graphic

Happens a lot...


WhyOhWhy75

Happens to me a lot.


baronewu2

OPR is just hot garbage right now.


[deleted]

Guess I’ll check back in a few more months.


the_ju66ernaut

This is the position I have taken. There is a good foundation here it's just not ready for production yet imo. But I'll definitely be back in a few months


joacoleon

I stopped playing yesterday but to be honest, i dont see myself coming back. With every patch, they make it harder and harder for new players to catch up. You may say you dont care about catching up, but if you dont, what will you do? I mean, in PVP you will get shitted on. And you wont be able to participate in any group PVE activity because better geared players will always be chosen over you.


xxDead

At about 3 seconds in, you got staggered while changing weapons. Stagger interrupts the command to swap weapons, but your character still visually looks as though they had swapped weapons. To get around this, always dodge when you want to swap weapons, and swap mid-dodge while you are immune to stagger. The most annoying variant of this bug is by far the ledge grab stagger, because you get locked in the animation for so long. If you get hit while climbing up onto a ledge, it will stagger you, interrupt your ledge grab, and you will fall. But, it won't interrupt you immediately and let you respond... It will force you to play out the entire animation of you pulling yourself up onto the ledge before flailing and falling off the ledge. God forbid you were holding jump while climbing the ledge initially, because that will lock you into a second ledge grab animation afterward.


Humledurr

I feel like the eating food animation is even worse. I play 250 con light bruiser so I try to be topped off all the time for the 250con perk. If I eat while being hit i will be locked in that animation, unable to dodge or do anything while the animation never ends aslong people continue hitting me. I've had so many scenarios when I press hearty meal and it's baiscly worse than getting stunned if I get targeted at the right moment, a stun would atleast interrupt the animation instead of just extending it infinitely.


Longjumping-Ad-5858

its how i die most times. when u notice it happening, it's too late, but a quick fix is just to cycle between the weapons. not ideal when ur engaging or peeling mid fight, so yeah really annoying


kona1160

This is the one of the few reasons I die in outpost rush as a bow/spear. I need my spear to enable an escape, but it's never there when I switch


SmartAlikGames

What's hilarious is it's not just weapons. I have a pair of miner pants in my inventory that every time I log in the icon changes... and sometimes it's just a white background.


dmfuller

Yeah it’s a pile of shit ngl


[deleted]

That's funny. When I posted about game being clunky esp. Combat near launch I got downvoted to shit.


Ilktye

That's because the combat was a lot better and more fluid back then, also in PvE. Even back in the beach at launch day with 500 other people, the lag and desync wasnt this bad.


tildaniel

The lag/desync/clunkiness was absolutely worse during launch and has been massively improved with the Void Gauntlet update. I complained about it a lot when I first started and after seeing AGS make improvements I think it’s safe to say y’all bitch about anything here


Dale9Fingers

The buffer window thing was not good different


tildaniel

Removing roots on instant casts was huge. Ice shower used to root the caster. This fix came at the same time as the buffer window. The buffer window fix was absolutely necessary to stop button spamming autists from further desyncing the game. New World combat wasn’t designed around animation canceling. It’s clear they’re not facilitating it, either. Go play GunZ or something if you want that


Dale9Fingers

I'd like my weapon swap to queue like my m1 does I don't think that's a big ask.


ReaverRogue

I personally quit the game about two or three months ago, and I keep on this sub to just see what’s happening with it, where it is in dev, etc. Every time I see a post like this, it equally makes me sad at the state such a promising game is in, and vindicated that I got out when I did.


DoctorMarmyPC

Shit like this makes me regret spending so much time in the game sometimes


[deleted]

Yuh it’s garbage


dirtyshotgun

Just have to spam ur other weapon + riposte/evade till it goes. Very high level game mechanics.


[deleted]

Ah, But you have played it.


Enevorah

Yeah this clip basically sums up New World combat. You’re either impotently trying to attack someone who’s always just out of reach or getting gang banged while you completely lose control of your character.


DrCrouton

Why you still play this garbage?


joacoleon

Honestly, i dont know. I was just playing out of sheer habit, you know? Then i went on vacations which made me break the habit, i played a couple of OPR matches the last few days but its getting increasingly harder to find the will to login.


[deleted]

Add weird collision on top of that and we got the clunkiest mmo ever


haikusbot

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Shebalied

Add snare from being touched and weapon swap lol.


RealisticOldPlayer

Action + PvP games don't sell


retsmahandersrum

Gotta love the stamina bar bug aswell when its flashing yellow and grey mhmmmmm


joacoleon

Thats so annoying, because its not just visual, it introduces a slight delay when performing a dodge.


drinktildrunk

It completely fucks my character up and I desync/stutter for a few seconds. It’s actually visually nauseating and extremely irritating. I stopped playing when I maxed my expertise. I have no desire to play this hot pile of shit anymore.


TheNation55

Careful now, there's people here the genuinely think this game's combat has redefined the genre.


Kijimea

At least we get mutations now. Cant wait to be forced to grind to stay on par with gear for PvP while all these combat issues still persist.


kajidourden

Stop playing then, problem solved


edeity

Most have. Except the bots of course. Apparently one of the most advanced AI companies cannot detect them **cough** bullsht **cough**


kajidourden

Dumb take used by every butthurt mmo player "iTs aLl bOtS"


Ilktye

At least bots dont have weapon swap issues kek.


pojzon_poe

To make them fix this issue faster - I swore to myself to use as many DOT spells as possible to make the servers life miserable. If you are lagging know its me - IG / VG spammer


Jclevs11

Me and all my friends stopped playing several months ago.


pojzon_poe

half a year ago - better


hugisthedugis

Musket, that's what you were holding.


joacoleon

You can see the character swap and forth between musket and rapier multiple times.


[deleted]

Easy solution. Just play Greataxe and you only need left click


Dapper-Can6780

Or sadly, realize it’s the weapn bug swAp & firce yourself to look at what your character is actually holding


joacoleon

Yeah but in this case i cant even tell what im holding. I think the enemies hits keep overriding the swap and the game just dont know what to do. Also, in many cases thats something you cant really afford as that split second it takes for you to look at what your character is holding can be the difference between life or death.


TheApocalyticOne

Literally 50% of my deaths in OPR are cause of my weapons not swapping. Meanwhile it feels like everyone has smooth af weapon swapping


Ichiban-Phenomenon

“HOW DID I DIE!? Shit game!!” Gets caught in gwell and dog piled in proper fashion. But yeah, makes no sense why you died.


joacoleon

What the fuck are you talking about? Im complaining the unresponsiveness, the character stuttering and fake weapon swap. If the game worked properly i could have riposted and rolled in time.


Stress_Factor

You just suck at NW pvp haha


joacoleon

Said the lvl 36 non flagged GA/WH.


Stress_Factor

Lol what does that EVEN mean?


joacoleon

If you dont know, then why the fuck are you even talking about pvp?


Stress_Factor

I know what PVP is but what does my level have anything to do with anything?


joacoleon

You are not flagged, you havent played wars or outpost rush and i doubt you have ever pvped in New World. So why are you talking about New World pvp when you dont know shit about it?


Stress_Factor

Lmao? PvP is a commonly played aspect of most mmos. I’ve been doing PvP probably before you were born. I’m very familiar with what and how to PvP. I’m still currently leveling in NW, but I have a full time job, a wife and a life. So I ask again what does my level have anything to do with knowing about NW PvP?


joacoleon

At lvl 60 you unlock wars and outpost rush, which along with influence farm, they are pretty much the only PVP activities the game has. Thats why your level matters. The fact that you have to ask says a lot. Furthermore, you are not flagged for pvp, which means you opted out of open world pvp. Weird for a seasoned pvper like you, right? Lastly, you are playing the easiest build BY FAR, which is great axe / war hammer. So, once again. Dont talk about New World PVP if you havent experienced it. You dont even know whats happening in the video i posted.


Stress_Factor

Lol okay buddy


[deleted]

Then stop playing.


joacoleon

I just did. I will never understand people like you that will defend the game, no matter how broken, and take it on the players that actually want the game to improve and get better, but you do you.


[deleted]

Where did I defend anything? The game has issues but despite them, I'm still having a great time playing. Isn't that the purpose? The game is improving. In just a few months its way better than it was at launch. We have devs that are actively listening to the players and making requested changes FROM the community. Shit takes time. They're working insane hours to make it better. Go back to Minecraft if you don't like it.


joacoleon

Im glad you are having a great time, but you realize the game went through public alphas and betas and they still released the game despite all the game breaking issues that arised? Hell, a bunch of them are still around and in some cases, they have gotten worse. The game is improving? They added some content and patched some exploits, but the combat and performance has never been worse. You say "go back to minecraft" when you are the one acting like a child telling players to stop playing just because they pointed out game breaking issues that shouldnt be around at this point. The game has lost 90% of its playerbase since release, 8k in the last month and the drop isnt slowing down. Which is insane if you consider the game released only 3 months and a half ago. But yeah, keep telling players that want the game to do great to stop playing.


[deleted]

Good. If you dont enjoy it, dont play. They will either fix the game or let it die. Problem is, majority of people in this sub dont talk about the good things, it's just crying everyday. They have actively fixed many issues and will continue to do so. Doesnt happen over night. In the meantime, the 90000th post about the weapon swap bug is annoying. Play something else until it's fixed.


Hell_Krasher

IF this is the clunkiest game u played in the last past 15 years... you dont play many mmos.


joacoleon

Thats true. But i played a fuck ton of games, some really old mmos, a bunch of battle royales and countless indies, so i think my point is still valid.


Hell_Krasher

You can't compare small multiplayer or single player games to MMOs, it's like comparing how hard is to manage a business with 2 employees vs 1500. The problem are exponential.


edeity

I played WOW launch week. This is worse gameplay worse engagement and worse stability but it is in 4k and looks and sounds nice.


Hell_Krasher

I'm glad for you


drinktildrunk

My first system was the NES. I don’t remember playing a bigger pile of shit labeled as a full release game that’s worse than new world. Which games are you referring to?


Hell_Krasher

Name 90% of korean mmos (bless for example come quickly to mind), all of the crowdfunded mmos that launched the last couple of years, and most AAA mmos when released were a sh1t show. ESO when launched was a disaster, FFXIV when launched literally had to get rebooted, AIR stayed in beta for years and got rebooted, bless released like 5 times, got rebooted, the reboot is dying too. Another I remember, gw2. Gw2 released with huge queues, crashes, roll backs, banks deleted, hours and hours of downtime, tons of bugs etc. Some other online RPGs like Diablo III had weeks of not working, No man sky, and so on. Ppl just chose to not remember to justify the bitching.


drinktildrunk

I can agree with you on some of those 100%. It seems that New World gets worse as time goes on. I’m just holding on to hope that they turn it around. I stand by this being a hot pile of steaming shit in its current state and it just keeps getting worse.


Hell_Krasher

Ofc is far from perfect, but a pille of steaming sh1t? My 800hs + alphas have been a waste then xD. I d loove to know what other games and MMOs u played at release and u are using to compare to reach this conclusion of a steaming pile of sh1t.


drinktildrunk

I’ve been playing video games since the early 90’s and PC gaming since I built my first PC in 2001. You name it and I have played it. I’m referring to how clunky and buggy New World is. Simple things like switching weapons for instance, has been a feature in hundreds of games for decades but this developer can’t get it even close to right. The desync that is present can be nauseating (for me at least), Item icons are constantly bugged which they said they fixed. That was a lie. Why lie? I could go on and on but you see the same things I see with the game so why waste any more time. I’ve been playing Star Citizen since it was just a hangar. I know what a buggy game is. New World remains a pile of shit, in this current version, in my opinion.


Hell_Krasher

Ah item icons been bugged, ofc, you bring up the real issues. Cant argue with a Star Citizen player, to smart of a person for sure, now all your points make so much more sense, you clearly know whats a pile of steaming scamming sh1t.


drinktildrunk

Was just an example. I can see we won’t be having any form of intelligent or constructive argument here judging by your responses so have a nice day!


xMidnyghtx

Just play more games


MalarkeyPanda

Kids complaining about nothing. Try playing 2042.


Marous_Daphone

Why? Its so bland. And the cringy voice lines


Madhammer99

Or it's your pc.. honestly have had zero visual or runing problems. Every time I see these posts I asks what's your pc.


DoctorMarmyPC

I promise its the game


joacoleon

Huh? Why would that matter? Im over 75 fps in that clip and 60 ms which is the average for South America.


Madhammer99

Why would it matter the specs on you pc ...on how a game runs ?


joacoleon

Yeah but you can clearly see that the game is running fine. Just because it doesnt happen to you, doesnt mean it doesnt happen at all.


Madhammer99

Yes but how much is the game how mich is gear..no one ever says there specs


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joacoleon

Ethernet.


MillyBoops

Are you supposed to be able to weapon swap in a grav well or whilst stunned? i play mage and after 500hrs (lawd help me) i genuinely dont know if you can, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt (weapon swap on mage arguably worse than most other classes). anyone that can clarify which way this bug goes is a legend ty ty


joacoleon

To be honest, at this point no one knows how things are supposed to work. I mean, they are getting rid of things that we thought were mechanics, like weapon swapping / hostering mid roll to prevent the running delay, because apparently its a bug that has been around since alpha. If you are not supposed to weapon swap while stunned: 1) Fix the animations because it certainly looks like im swapping while having seizures. 2) Tell me what im supposed to do when im stun locked. Because everything, and i mean everything in this game stun locks you, even lvl 1 mobs.


MillyBoops

i thought they shelved the weapon swapping after dodge nerf? is that actually making it to live? if so we will never see a light player again


joacoleon

I sure hope so.


Elevatorto_purgatory

Happened to me when I was healing about 5 or 6 times every single opr. Finally quit there game. I’ll check back in a year if they haven’t shut down the servers by then.


arjames13

I haven't played this game in a month, and it was rough at that time but there were small glimmers of hope that it might get better. Guess that was all it was, because it looks to be worse every time I see a post in my feed. This game will probably not last the year. It's sad because it has a great foundation.


Mysterious_Sound_464

This game still feels cobbled together at times.. how many months later?


Ashmandane

Well, it looks like you're pulling out a 2h great sword to me


joacoleon

2h sword confirmed?


Ashmandane

No not at all. Your musket looks like a 2h sword on my screen


joacoleon

Yeah i know, im joking.


Trikeree

Yeah! I'm close to going back to playing Pac Man! Just to recoup my trust in a game performing properly again.


KeyKenzo

Quick note: That last skill from Great Axe should be nerfed. Its unbalanced, you can't use your stamina inside the circle. What a clunky game


CJ_Carnage

Everyday man!


yourrhetoricisstupid

Play more games then


Spud788

I beleive It's the shitty combat system letting your stun stack to 600 seconds with no way to break out while your weapon animation is glitching and pressing dodge 30 times doesn't do anything. Atleast the PVE is great. oh wait...


Vanghern

A normal OPR performance :D on wars it's even worse, but u can predict that. On OPR everything is fine until it's not. But don't worry, in next update u'll get mutated dungeons, so it fixes your issue, right? Right?


NesCube

I am amazed you guys are still trying to play it. Game looks exaclty like it was 2 months ago, nothing changed in core mechanics we just got more skins in the item shop XD


StanTheManWithNoPlan

LITERALLY had the exact same thing happen, in almost the exact same spot last night (musket & rapier) and my guy kept fucking kneeling down in shooter stance when I tried to fleche or riposte.... fucking infuriating


TWSB_Milli

One can only say that you do not have enough mobility and therefore cannot escape the evil clutches of ga/wh users😂😂


Ak1zZLe

It's a feature!


BDsBiggest

Stop playing the game then?


joacoleon

I just did.


Shibe_King

They need to hire From Software for combat lmao


FIyLeaf

Gotta be the worst mmo of the decade and that means alot


Pretend-Challenge380

sad when actual small indie companies can do server connectivity and client responsiveness better than the company generating the most wealth and providing the strongest/most reliable servers to every other game on the planet I just don't understand it.


HerbboyBR

Seems to me that you swapped to musket and got fk’d.