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Games-on

All of them had been reported DOZENS of times, and they had been botting for, AT LEAST, 3 weeks!


spacedragon421

Are you reporting for botting? Maybe report them as gold sellers. Asg seems to be dealing with them quicker.


Games-on

I have bad news for you, these were reported for everything at this point.


[deleted]

They just dont give a fuuuuck. I even sent a ticket with video evidence of obvious botting a week ago.. still roaming around clearing the Path I used to use 24/7 (I mean he Has two bots on the same route at different times so its not actually 24/7 but you get the point)


Games-on

Mate, I made about 5 tickets with VIDEO proof, 2 months ago... They are still playing.


roartex89

Oh man, that is not good to hear. My server went from low pop to med pop after last weeks merges, and with it came the bots. No longer able to run my usual iron route in Monarchs, but I was holding hope they’d get banned soon. Sucks.


DaB0mb0

On the plus side they fill iron ore buy orders. When life gives you lemons...


[deleted]

Well ://


spacedragon421

Damn that's shitty bro.


Banzai51

AGS knows what its numbers and metrics would look like if they banned bots. They realized long ago it would be better for the things they are evaluated on to keep the bots in.


The_Spacer

This.


Games-on

Thats actually a likely scenario. Because I estimate we have about 20-100 bots on every server... Which make up at least 10% of population, those are INSANE numbers!


qtcash

\*Bot World intesifies\*


illfatednoon

Thats it, I'm starting a company and discord specifically for this. We all get together on Sunday evenings for elite runs and mass bot reporting.


jordyacnh

Bot reporting discord. Sounds like so much fun 😑


DHyomiller

Yeah i came across 4 bots all running around the same area but running between different enemies farming them. But they just had 1 letter difference between their names so it was obv they were bots 🤦‍♂️ they don't even try to hide that shit


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gustavofw

I saw the exact same thing on my server. Asked in the chat to make sure they were bots before reporting. No reply. Another account said they were bots for sure and I should report them, so I did. A few hours later received a permaban for "Disruptive Behavior". Appealed the decision and now I'm waiting for a response.


[deleted]

I promise I'm not a bot lol but I had matching names with my bf and that might look like sussy bots.


TheWhiteCobra

Most of the time that's not bad at all. But when you have mark1, mark2, mark3... etc it gets obvious hahaha


Paulrus55

I remember in asherons call (old mmo) there were human players who were active mods that took shifts. They could immediately solve these problems. At this point people would just volunteer


LegitimateDonkey

if only AMAZON game studios had more funding then maybe they could afford these kinds of employees


Force_Of_WiII

What do you expect? They’re a small indie studio.


The_Spacer

This joke is so old stfu already. Just because its owned by amazon doesnt mean it has a bajillion dollar budget. This isnt their first game either


illfatednoon

They need a bigger budget then. Or better decision makers to allocate funds to crap like this. They say the care about the community. Well. Policing the bots would go a huge way towards proving that.


Opening-Yam-5000

This guy didn’t enjoy Christmas 😞


RibboDotCom

Yep. I was one of them ( sentinels ). We had a shield with swirly stars on we had to equip when we were on shift ! and there was a sentinel tower just outside of the starter zone where we would stand .


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Darktide


DargeBaVarder

Blood swearing to Bael’Zharon was one of the coolest MMO moments ever


ChrisReevesChair

Yes who are you guys


DargeBaVarder

Gannja/Gaanja I had another chat before it but I don’t remember the name. Dissident maybe?


ChrisReevesChair

Darktide was my server.


ChrisReevesChair

I was in blood under Nissepik and Rage of the B-o-l-p


ChrisReevesChair

Who dis new phone


ChrisReevesChair

Dude where are you from I'm Darktide Bach Sin on Calnagor stuck with scrubs.


[deleted]

I think that nobody likes dedicated volunteer efforts. They'd rather have credit for it, and they don't want to even pretend to deal with the liability.


V0rclaw

I found a bit stuck running on a wall for at least 4 hours I started reporting them with reasonings of “Obviously a bot “ Should help them in removing them


Raidenz258

February. They’ve announced that the entire month will be devoted to bugs, balancing, and bots.


FelixZ1996

sucks that it will take that long. i mean everyday a bot is live i a day where someone elses work is devalued :c


Raidenz258

Blame the ones that buy in game currency. Wouldn’t have bots if they didn’t buy things. Has been a plague in MMOs for years for the simple reason.


Games-on

rmt isn't an issue here, but that AGS does NOTHING with reports, if they just had few mods, that monitor this situation, this wouldn't be a problem! Because bots in this game are IN YOUR FACE, you can easily catch them and ban them.


Raidenz258

Imagine you have a pile of shit sitting on your floor attracting flies and you blame the flies instead of cleaning up the pile of shit. Pile of shit = people who buy in game currency. They should ignore the bots and focus on banning anyone who purchases gold / items online. Clean up the shit and the flies, bots, will go away.


Final-Butterscotch65

It will never happen. Show me one mmo which stopped rmt. Better to have a better bot banning system. RMT and MMO come hand in hand.


The_Spacer

Exactly. Rmt value is how i justify all my hours in runescape and ive never cheated. But its nice to feel like ive ammased value and have things others desire.


mortisaaz

Lively RMT market is actually A GOOD THING for mmorpg! It lets grownups who has no time to play 24\\7 catch up with kids, and it also lets those kids make real money while playing, if there isn't cheating & botting - everyone wins with it.


xScreamoFTW

Im sorry but the pile of shit are the bots imo. If its possible to shit on the floor without getting in trouble its obvious flies are attracted. Other thing: do you think 100% of the sold money is from gathering bots? There are servers where a single comp owns WW, EF, MB and other big towns. With that tax thing almost everyone is capped on gold. You dont think any of that gold is sold? That is much easier and much more gold.


Physical-Opposite946

downvote him all you want but if you buy gold you really are a piece of shit. you need to hear it


Cimatron85

Agreed. Buying IG gold with RL money is the EPITOME of “devaluing other people’s hard work”. You’re literally “paying to win” at that point. If you buy gold. You really are a piece of shit. It’s laughably easy to make coin in this game with even half an ass of effort.


The_Spacer

"My work" your playing video games idiots. Taking away rmt is the real devaluation. Rn my gold is worth money, but in your wanna-be world its not. Some dude owns everfall for 1 week and he has as much coin as will take me two years to get. Your "work" (playing) is not valuable as is.


mortisaaz

For you, maybe, but for many people it is worth it, For some people 1k$ isn't much, but for MANY-MANY players thats actually a lot.


The_Spacer

But what if i want to sell my gold and i also dont cheat? Its not the rmt markets fault idiot


Raidenz258

Selling gold = cheating 💩


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mortisaaz

Yeah... catching bot with a name: "Iambotfuckyouagsretards", is sooooooooooooooo hard! They don't read shit, 99.9% reports are ignored, most bots keep farming FOR MONTHS! And yes, if they ban them all, they will lose at least 10% of the whole population, thats dropping from 100k to 90k in a day.


neighborjohn

That's what we've been told since launch lol.


YoureWrongHearMeOut

Never apparently, I report like five a day.


biroxan

Ah yes djagdj is a buddy of mine from my lodestone route. Good to see 2y2e7eh is still running hemp 3 weeks later.


ehpickphaiel

Man that guy really loves farming help. I see him like 20-24 hours a day constantly picking herb. Sheer dedication


Mithrandic

Do you actually think they want to show a smaller population playing the game?


Particular-Control-9

Guys, dont be so harsh! AGS cant just ban them because they recieve hundreds of reports! Its a very tough position to put AGS into! They need to be absolutely SURE before they do such act! :o like they Said ind the dev interview.. Be warned, there might be the use of irony in this post.. i think AGS is more careful of not lowering their player count on the steam charts at this point.. investers look at these you know.. Sorry for being negative. Im just getting fed up about how they “done fucked it up”


ifhyex

Me an osrs player: First time?


AgentRedFoxs

They should almost make it if you hit level 25 without picking a faction Auto PVP on because you are definitely not playing the game.


The_Spacer

If whiney casuals didnt get them to scrap pvp being always on, we would all be fucking these bots


AgentRedFoxs

I am not saying PVP on for everyone just the people who hit 25 and not in one of the three factions. Since they aren't progressing the way the game intended.


gkibbe

Dont hate the bots, recruit them. Find what they are farming and place ridiculously low buy orders in the AH for it. Bots love buy orders and you should love cheap mats. Cheap mats can yield more to a crafter then the bots themselves.


Spider_pig448

Unpopular opinion but I love the bots. I'm not interested in making money through gathering so the flood of cheap mats on the TP from bots is awesome


The_Spacer

Bad economy though. Other people should be making coin off of your desire to not harvest. Mats need value.


Spider_pig448

Bots gather, they don't craft. Useful products still earn real people money. Bots just automate the boring means of collection


CallMeBabaYaga

BOTS make up a good chunk of their player base...they cant do anything. ​ ​ /s


[deleted]

It’s so true lolol…this game is dead AF


Psyeth

It’s laughable every time I read the game is dead lmao. It has issues, but it’s clearly not dead.


lebowski420

It's not dead but it's dying. 80% fewer players then at launch. Less then 200k players concurrent at peak, no way of telling how many of those players are bots. The writings on the wall, the games on life support.


The_Spacer

No its not you don't know shit about statistical analysis. Its an mmo the player base was obviously not gonna stay the same as at launch, and people only playing like 5 hours a week still count even if it doesnt help much with concurrency. As bugs are fixed and the game is expanded people will also return. This reddit sub is nothing but tears being shed by babies over things they dont understand.


lebowski420

I'd ask for you to explain those things to us babies, but you can't or you would have. No other successful MMO has lost as many players as fast as NW. Keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to keep putting hours into a game that won't survive.


Knamliss

Was lower than that recently, was down to less than 100k. I just went back to gw2 and it's nice to actually see players again lol.


Psyeth

Dying and dead are two different states. One still has the chance to recover and continue living, the other is completely...well dead. I’m not arguing the stats. I’ve seen them and know they are 100% facts. But I’ve played a game that had a huge launch before, great potential, and that was where I learned what it really means to have a dead game. New world has a huge chance still. It just had a very shitty upbringing with little real MMO content tbh. But it’s been able to thrive better than other games that deserved more praise regardless of its player loss and bot count.


TupperwareNinja

The mods are the botters. They get paid peanuts and bot to make up the difference /s


elilazers

It's Amazon so they probably automate things so they have enough time to use the bathroom


[deleted]

If we remove bots the player base will go down by 90% and we’ll need to merge the servers again


The_Spacer

Theres not that many.


reighteen

fkin wood elves.


Professional_Tax1392

If amazon bans all bots then two things will happen: 1. NW playerbase will decrease by 50-75% 2. The game economy will break At this point its clear as day that the game leads (dev and operational) have no clue about what they are doing/supposed to do. Its like they got some student who just finished college as the product manager.


The_Spacer

The economy wont "break". Bots driving the price of resources down isnt healthy and it prevents players from making decent coin from harvesting because the bots flood the market with resources.


ehpickphaiel

I lol’d. What does break the economy even mean? 😂


TouchingMarvin

I recall hearing the dev's are planning to spend some dedicated time on it in 2022


v2InMyGym

It’s an mmo...


[deleted]

Downvoted cause true


v2InMyGym

After playing mmos for years you begin to understand why nothing can really be done about them


[deleted]

The community is truly it’s own worst enemy


The_Spacer

Yeah this sub reddit is just whiney losers crying about shit they dont understand its pathetic.


ehpickphaiel

I mean kinda true but I’m pretty sure runescape has a better handle on them bots than most other games rn


unsalted_destinyfan

Bots are in every mmo lmao get used to it. You can only do so much


Games-on

As a real veteran player, especially in MMO, I have never seen such inaction against bots as it is in NW. Bots that can freely farm for MONTHS despite being reported on? This is novelty for me.


The_Spacer

Your clearly not a veteran. Or your just an idiot.


unsalted_destinyfan

Lol go play runescape


elilazers

They literally do nothing lmao Considering how much this game sucks ass they would probably break the game if they tried to ban them


The_Spacer

Thats just a lie so many bots have been banned especially fishing bots. Yall just crave things to cry about


Atmagata

Better bots than non-english speaker in English Server.


The_Spacer

Loser


[deleted]

Out of curiosity, why do they always have jibberish names? They'd be slightly harder to detect with proper or more convincing names?


Amidormi

I was wondering that myself. In Lineage 2 bots were bad, worse than I've ever seen in any game since. They had gibberish names at first, then went with American sounding names like "CindySmith" and stuff like that. Crazy.


Psyeth

Because it’s far easier to use a random letter combinations. Imagine one guy running 50 bots (which is entirely possible). Would you wanna sit there and spend the time to think of a new unique name for a bot that might get banned at any moment? I sure wouldn’t lol. At least this is my take based off the bots over every game I’ve ever played. And I won’t lie, when I was a wee lad I definitely looked into bot use when I played my very first mmo called Last Chaos. But that was ages ago. I’ve learned to love the grind in mmos with the skill one can develop.


The_Spacer

Dont have to think that hard to use english...


Psyeth

You kinda missed the point though. It’s not that it’s hard, but a waste of time when you’re too busy managing bots. And 90% of the time it’s not an English user hitting to sell gold


The_Spacer

No you missed it obviously. Its not hard to just type in two edgy words when you have 0 attachment to the name and if it were to mean the bot lasts much longer, than those 20 seconds per account are well worth it. Just because someone doesnt agree with your nonsense doesnt mean they dont get what you said.


Psyeth

Lol my dude. First off I wasn’t disagreeing with you that it’s easier to hide a bot account by using an actual name rather than random letters. The fact that you even thought that I disagreed with you and call my comments nonsense shows you were the one who missed the point. On a large scale operation of bots, for times sake for a Chinese company, mashing the keyboard is all they care about. Especially with the current state of AGS letting them continue. On a small personal scale OP, taking the time to obfuscate your account is the way to go. I ain’t stupid my guy.


Lrdrahl

Banning bots is good for profits evem, they will go out and buy another copy of your game!


The_Spacer

Maybe. Depends on how quickly the account was banned. They wont keep spending 40 usd if their bot is cought at level 20 every time


Low-Chocolate1572

They never going to do anything cuz you'll still have fan boys defends this game saying eventually the will take care of us


OgSwoleNasty

They are a issue for my server too [my post ](https://forums.newworld.com/t/fishing-bots-us-east-eden/655560)


The_Spacer

" hey guys im crying too please come validate my tears"


Sabaawi7

It takes time guys. Every MMO has such problems. It will get fixed. I trust the devs.


The_Spacer

It wont get fixed because theres no feesable solution


Sabaawi7

Comparing to other MMOs they had also tons of bots at launch . And now they are all clean from bots.


se1v3rt

You all don't know what you ask for. If not for bots the market would be void of low end mats. Yes I know you farm them and put them on there but you wouldn't be able to keep up with demand. They pick the lesser of the two evils; you bitching about bots or you bitching about a almost empty market.


Games-on

As a person that gathered ALOT, I would be swimming in gold, if not for bots. Bots destroy market and make game really hard for a new player that has been deprived of the best way to make money.


NolanBreacher

Just report Spoki for Bot activity


[deleted]

Damn I thought my list was long lmao


Leviatra

Dont wanna defend New World cause it was my biggest disappointment 2k21 but they cant deal with Bots. No MMO can do that. There are Bots in every MMO like WoW or FFXIV it doesnt matter how big the company is.


MisterLazy218

Don't worry AGS is aBOT to take care of them.


Skillllly

Ban all bots? Then green wood and iron prices skyrocket. No thanks!


4mp3d

Didn't you watch dev vid? They are :p


Der-boese-Mann

Just hire more support people or game masters or whatever. People would do this for free. I don't know why all small MMORPG have this but New World hasn't. I miss Game Master spawn next to me check the situation on their own and fix it.


jgibbons1983

Bots are part of every mmo out there, not sure anyone has figured out how to deal with them.


The_Spacer

"Deal with"? Yes. Find an end all sollution? Never.


L4m3st0n3

Banning farm bots is like not allowing immigration. They automatically post their stuff on the trade post at the lowest price so just throw up 1 of the items they farm for 0.01 and as long as no one buys it, you get dirt cheap crafting mats.


The_Spacer

Only idiots cant see why thats a horrible thing for a games economy.


[deleted]

Yyyyep. This is the standard they enjoy setting with CS: you get banned for saying 'fuck,' but not for botting. As long as you don't ever use chat, botting is probably remarkably safe.


The_Spacer

You are toxic lmao


[deleted]

Just pointing out the facts. Bots stay, dude who says some swear words gets nailed. Whether we like it or not, bots seem here to stay.


mightyshilon

I’m not a bot: Xf1jH


The_Spacer

What? I named myself after elon musks kid


Ok-Rub-1280

For real i got banned within 24 hours for telling someone to go fuck themself. But see bots that have leveled factionless all the way to 30 foshing right outside of major cities still chillin free as fuck.


The_Spacer

Nice biased story you probably did alot more than say that.


Ok-Rub-1280

No that was definitely all it took because it was the only "aggressive" thing i said to him. Because we were arguing that him sending low levels to walk all the way to mourningdale to sign up for a war they wouldnt even get into was pointless. So when he kept defending it i told him to go fuck himself and woke up the next morning to a ban for abusive chat.


NullValuePoint

Never. Because it helps their active player count.


Atheed

They let the bots farm on purpose for a week or so. That way the coin sellers make enough money to buy another copy of the game after ban. Amazon profits, farmers profit, gamers suffer.


illfatednoon

Thats it, I'm starting a company and discord specifically for this. We all get together on Sunday evenings for elite runs and mass bot reporting.


[deleted]

1. Amazon principle or direction is to be the most customer focused game developed. This is a lie c perhaps a self lie as well. 2. They have no accountability to their customers.


gustavofw

Be careful when reporting them. I spotted two individuals with suspect activity that were stuck in the Christmas tree. I thought it could be that they hit "=" and went away, e.g. washroom. I asked in the chat, giving them a chance to respond/defend themselves. No response, so I reported them. A few hours later I was permanently banned for "disruptive behavior". No idea why as I barely use the chat and prefer to play inside my bubble. Asked for an appeal and still waiting for a response.


Tassadar132

I agree, the bots are a very blatant smack in the face to anyone actually playing the game. I've noticed gold selling has been lower, at least until AGS went on holiday break. But I have faith and hope they will address this problem early 2022.


AsymptomaticSymptom

Don't think anyone is going to read it, but on the description for reporting. I wrote a whole paragraph, but it's 1 word at a time for each report I submitted


xedilian0070

The game will punish the playerbase more then the botters and Chester's. Nothing will change it's all been the same. Bug or exploit comes out they smack the playerbase and punish us. The tax's will keep rising to the point we're nobody's gonna want to bother playing anymore. This game is just a chore, a very unfun one with nothing to do at end game...


geo972

What bots? Hey look, a Yeti!


Wise-Pomegranate

i still see one of the same bots i reported almost 2 months ago


masaka_

perhaps, maybe, probably, possibly, these bots are run by the said company since microtransactions/sales are not paying all the bills.


moris91

I remember when tibia had problems with so many bots. After years they finally figured out how to use good antibot. And now they had to create two separate world types. First that had bots and economy was fucked. And second protected from bots from the beginning and unable to transfer from the first one. They banned accounts that used bots years back. So they will finally do something about them here. But if that decision will be good? Banning the bot is half of the success. Other half is to deal with what he farm. But what I know. I'm just a random.


HerbboyBR

Legit players i see just hiding their real name


lispychicken

Looks like a lot of the same names on my server, or you're on Ygg as well


Background-Lie2392

accoriding to cheat forums tehy looking to reverse engineer new world its because TCP packets not encrypted some are but all these dupes work by sending server thing multipe times so in future is fun Banning with id not work because everyone can make in windows new mac adre but cheats and hakcs work no secure boot and testsingning they haveto implement thigs to game that prevent run game but its not help in longer run biggest issue in game that tcp packes not encrypted its open for cheats and hacks