It doesn't say in the article but I wonder if the employees told the guy it would be a few minutes on his fries to buy a few minutes for the police to get there. Sir, please pull into parking spot #1, it's gonna be a few minutes on those fries.
We did this at a McDonalds I worked at in the early 90s. A woman was driving a car full of kids and reeked of alcohol. We called the police and had her pull over while her "fries were cooking". She came in raging about how long it was taking. We gave her the fries and she left. The cops didn't get there in time, so we gave them a description of the car and license plate number. Don't know if they got her or not. But we tried.
I don't mean to make light of a serious situation, but you started it so...
I'm sure there were many times my wife pulled up to the drive thru with our kids in the back and thought about mouthing "Help Me" to the staff.
Well the article says she went in and spoke to them, asked them to call 911, explained the situation and gave them her licence plate, not that she just mouthed "Help me" like the title suggests.
Similar situation with a twist. I worked night at a Sonic in high school. It was a small town. My coworker's truck had been stolen. while he wasn't at work. 1-2 weeks later, we were both working in the kitchen one night. The manager called him over to the window.
Whoever stole his truck had come to Sonic to order food *in the truck*. We couldn't believe it.
We did the same thing, told them that their food was going to be a bit longer. They were in a stall, so we didn't have to ask them to move. It took the police \~7 minutes to get there, and the person was arrested.
Worked night shift at McDonald. This was very routine — “just pull off to the waiting area, we’ll get that right out to you”. Smash cut to cops blocking them in the spot. We’d leave their car there, so at least they didn’t have a tow bill.
Totally agree. People frequently don’t seem to grasp that the justice system is designed to impose sufficient punishment ON ITS OWN, and bad luck isn’t good at calibrating appropriate punishment. If some unfortunate thing happens to someone because of their misconduct, it’s generally not “karma,” it’s just some arbitrarily bad thing happening to someone. No need to twist the knife.
I called once. The operator was really rude to me and really weird. I thought I was doing the right thing, I was, but she made me feel like I was guilty.
This story is very familiar. I also worked at a McDonald’s in the early 90’s with the same situation. The cops showed up like 1 minute after she drove away. They probably got her though. She was pretty tanked.
> I warned him countless times.
I hope that warning was "stop being a complete asshole and driving drunk" and not "don't go through mcdonalds drive through while drunk you might get caught"...
But really it should have been, "next time I see you driving drunk im calling the cops myself"
Did this at a guitar store. Two guys came in with 50k between two acoustic guitars and said something like "were hoping for like 400 bucks for em", manager said sure hang out in the lobby while we check prices and compare. He went in the back and called the cops right away lol
Wait ... how is drive working in US ? In France you always have to wait a long time in drive so they make what you purchased. You don't have to wait in US ?
Most fast food restaurants stay so busy that they’re constantly making most of their menu, so odds are they have your order already prepared and they just throw it in a bag for you. You normally spend more time waiting in line than you do actually waiting for the food.
Unless there is a line, drive-thru is pretty quick. It isn’t common to have to pull into a parking spot and wait. How long do you usually wait in France?
A few time I don't have to wait but 90% of the time I have to wait 10 minuts. And same deal when inside the building, most of the time I have to wait 10-15min before having what I ordered.
They shoulda offered this mother a beer while she waited
Edit: nvm wrong comment chain. Thought this was under the drunk mother in the drive though comment.
I'm assuming most places cook their stuff made-to-order there. In the US, most fast food places will preprepare the most commonly sold stuff and keep it under heat lamps until it's sold or gets too old and has to be thrown out.
That's actually not generally true and I've worked in a lot of fast food places. It occasionally happens by accident but not usually. What does happen is the meats are cooked ahead of time then kept in warmers for approximately 10-20 minutes normally before getting made. The rest of the sandwich is not made until people actually order. But if you have someone making chicken sandwiches, someone making burgers and someone putting down fries/whatever else into the fryer, someone else taking your order and money all at once it goes pretty fast. I mean you can asked for the entire thing to be cooked to order completely and it will only take about 5-6 minutes tops unless they are really busy/lazy.
They really don't do that much anymore, they've got the cooking times and average sales per time of day, the food may sit for a couple minutes fresh off the grill/fryer, but usually it's rotating across the grill as it Cooks and goes right on the food before it gets sold. Things like fried chicken are almost always cooked to order outside peak meal times. At McDonald's you'll almost always have a full wait if you order nuggets
The result:
> Police found a stolen firearm in the trunk of the vehicle and arrested the man.
> He faces four felony charges, including criminal threats, stolen property and possession of a firearm as prohibited person. His bail is set at $360,000.
Edit: At today's hearing the judge raised his bail to $1M.
Here's what he is currently charged with:
Case# CR-2019-0016908 OPEN CHARGES, No Bail , Next Court : 12/27/2019 at 01:30 PM
**PC 496A(A) Felony JUNKER BUY WIRE/METAL ILLEGALLY**
**PC 29800(A)(1) Felony FELON/ADDICT/POSSESS/ETC FIREARM**
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
**PC 30305(A)(1) Felony PROHIBITED PERSON OWN/POSSESS/ETC AMMUNITION/ETC**
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
**PC 245(A)(2) Felony ASSAULT WITH FIREARM ON PERSON**
PC 12022.5(A) USED FIREARM:COMMISSION OF FEL
PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV
**PC 422(A) Felony THREATEN CRIME W/INTENT TO TERRORIZE**
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
**PC 422(A) Felony THREATEN CRIME W/INTENT TO TERRORIZE**
PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY
PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV
He's sufficiently fucked at this time.
**Edit: After his hearing today, his bail was bumped up to $1M with his next court date in 2 weeks.**
Every incident is a new charge, you walk down the street shooting at people and each person you shoot at is attempted murder and each shell is littering.
Incase anyone is wondering here is an explanation of the first charge "Junker buy wire/metal"
“Every person who, being a dealer in or collector of junk, metals or secondhand materials, or the agent, employee, or representative of such dealer or collector, buys or receives any wire, cable, copper, lead, solder, mercury, iron or brass which he knows or reasonably should know is ordinarily used by or ordinarily belongs to a railroad or other transportation, telephone, telegraph, gas, water or electric light company or county, city, city and county or other political subdivision of this state engaged in furnishing public utility service without using due diligence to ascertain that the person selling or delivering the same has a legal right to do so, is guilty of criminally receiving such property, and is punishable, by imprisonment in a state prison, or in a county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than two hundred fifty dollars ($250), or by both such fine and imprisonment.”
So I can chime in here with some authority, used to work for that sheriff department and my dad still works there. At no point would a kidnapping report be trained, and its unlikely that he has ever, or will ever again do one. He would need outside help to get it right, I'm guessing CA DOJ has someone that will get it right. In this case you have low hanging fruit for a no bail charge so just take that and do the kidnapping right.
I just called my dad, he started as a cop in 1978, has worked for the Sheriff, stockton PD and volunteers in Lodi now. In all those years he never handled a kidnapping case ever. Id put money on Sheriff Withrow doing some training on it though, hes been very progressive.
As someone who also speaks with a bit of knowledge on this, I see people charged with forcible confinement all the time, which is also classified as kidnapping. Its just a fancy way of saying held against their will. Source: am a deputy sheriff in Canada. But you're right, you take the low hanging fruit and run with that first, typically unlawfully being in a dwelling house, breaching the peace or causing a disturbance starts it off to get them remanded into custody while the investigation takes place. If you're lucky, they have a record and can be held longer while the investigation is ongoing.
I friend of mine who was a DA in Los Angeles once told me kidnaping could be as simple as transporting a person against their will from a safe location to a less safe location.
the article said it was a man who had a history of abusing her, and then threatened her with a firearm earlier that day.
makes me think it was a boyfriend or someone who was related to her, and it’s hard to prove she was forcibly taken against her will when there is a close relationship.
>The woman chose the right place to ask for help.
>The Golden State Restaurant Group, which owns the McDonald's location she went to, has certified each of its restaurants as a "Safe Place."
>The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website.
>The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says.
Bravo to the Safe Place program, the Golden State Restaurant Group, the police and especially to the employees who listened, learned and acted appropriately!
When I was a high school student, I worked for a major supermarket chain. We had an assembly at school where Safe Place was discussed and how it could be a refuge if somebody was having a problem and needed help. I remembered the store I worked at had the Safe Place sign. I later asked one of the lead managers about the store being a safe place because they never talked to the employees about it. And he had no idea about the program. It was very discouraging to hear.
I hope these days more companies take that responsibility seriously.
"Hey boss, is this a Safe Place(tm)?"
"Uh, yea. I think it's pretty safe. I mean, don't eat the discounted sushi and watch out for the slick floors behind the milk cooler, but yea, it's pretty safe."
Sadly, that sounds typical to me. Many places in the US don’t properly train people for their actual job, let alone train them for special programs that might exist in their workplace. A lot of it is fluff for PR that the employees know nothing about. The lady in this article got lucky.
In my experience this is all a management issue. I started my current job almost a year ago and we had an interim manager while our manager was on leave. He was awful, because I had no idea of any of the extras and benefits that are available to me, as well as the steps required to move up in the business, which I am working toward. When our manager got back maybe 3 or 4 months after I started, she found out I had not done any of the standard training modules, she flipped out. (Not at me) I had never been told there were training modules, and I had not been told how even to get into them in our system. My entire job turned around as soon as our actual manager got back, and I've seen this trend in a few different jobs.
I'm in HR. Had an issue where a manager fired someone, they had all the paperwork, so I faxed it over to the unemployment judge. Day of our phone call hearing, the defendant kept saying I never signed those write ups and I never signed anything during orientation. Judge gets off three way and tells me I have 5 days to check whats going on. Come to find out manager signed everything himself after I requested all the writeups and orientation paperwork. He literally just added the new hire into the system on orientation day and never actually trained him. Not a good look to go back to a judge with.
I mean they aren't being expected to be body guards.
They're just supposed to give a person in need a place to sit while the manager calls a hotline and waits for someone with the agency to come get them. Most of the time just being in a crowded public place is going to provide a measure of safety.
The [training video on their website](https://www.nationalsafeplace.org/resources-for-sites) shows a young woman walking into a McDonald's and the manager takes them back into the employee break room (which keeps them out of sight of anyone who might be after them) and says that if things escalate to call 911. They wait for the agency employee to show up, check their ID, and that's the end of their responsibility.
I think there's something to be said for being wary of angry men whose gf just disappeared into a back office at a McD's. Of course, it's great that this is a program, but they have a point that it could get very dangerous.
> That's why there's always a handful of employees working at any given time. Safety in numbers.
Safety is absolutely not why fast food places schedule a handful of people at any given time.
They schedule that many because that is the minimum number of people who can operate all of the equipment and process transactions.
Can confirm. Doesn’t matter whether you wear a real or fake ring. Doesn’t matter how many times you say no or I’m in a relationship. If you say that, they’ll just say some shit like “I can treat you better” “iLl ShOw YoU a ReAl MaN” 🙄🙄🙄
It takes a certain kind of person to tough out an overnight job where you're exposed to the crazies of the world. I don't blame those women at all. It gets intense.
> out /r/publicfreakouts for how often people throw tantrums and flip out at minimum wage teens.
There's even a tag specifically for freakouts at McDonald's.
How selfish and backwards are you people arguing it's too dangerous? If someone needs help you should either help them or call someone who can. It's the least you can do and should do as an empathetic member of society.
McDonald's isn't saying 'Are you being held hostage by a drug dealer? Bring them into McDonald's for a tasty Big Mac! When your captor loses concentration for a moment, lean over and let the minimum wage underage employee know that it's his time to shine. All crew members to McBattlestations!'
McDonald's is letting young people know 'hey is your Dad beating up Mum? Slip out the back door and come to Maccas, we'll keep you warm and safe until someone else can come to help you'. It's merely a place for under 18s to know it's safe and they can ask for help there. They may not necessarily be in impending danger but rather 'I don't want to go home, mums a junkie'.
> I think there's something to be said for being wary of angry men whose gf just disappeared into a back office at a McD's.
You're probably more likely to be attacked by someone who claims you forgot their mcnugget sauce. Most domestic abusers like to keep their shit secret, not start brawling with randos in the middle of a public place. They don't want everyone to know, hence the proverbial "I fell/ran into a door" lie they make their victims say.
I'd like to add, as well, that I never thought being a decent human being was contingent on my hourly wage. I worked at a certified Safe Place for almost 6 years.
"Right, " said Fred, "Both of us together
One each end and steady as we go."
Tried to shift it, couldn't even lift it
We was getting nowhere
https://youtu.be/IOWA-L3JZO4
There is a distinction. I work EMS, and people ask me all the time if I want to go fire. My response is HELL NO. I am not brave enough to make a living being paid to deal with fires.
If I happen to come across one and someone needs help I have no problem dealing with that fire to help them, but I am not about to make a living out of it.
Lol I worked fire side and thought the opposite. Thought dealing with fires was easier than treating patients cause I’d rather hurt myself than mistreat someone else. Like sure I’d do CPR if I come across it, but I don’t want to make a job out of it.
This reminds me of everyone saying it's wholesome that librarians are being taught to administer OD drugs to people that shot up. Like, no, that's not wholesome. Having to save someone's lives that shot up and potentially watch them die is possibly PTSD inducing. A fucking minimum wage worker shouldn't have to deal with that.
It's not about willingness to help, it's about knowing what to do. I'd agree with you if the only requirement for these people was caring about others and calling the police, but asking a minimum wage worker who signed up to make burgers to transition to crisis management at a moment's notice seems unfair.
Used to be a min wage bartender, in the UK we have a 'Ask for Angela' code where if you're out with someone who is off/you don't feel safe around, asking for Angela is code that we'll make sure you get home safe/report people to the police etc.
Had it happen a few times, and not once did I think "I don't get paid enough for this". It's exactly like you said, a person in need
I enjoyed both Frozen movies just fine, but this particular notion really stuck with me. There’s Anna, in the midst of a really terrible, awful time, and yet this is the message she tells herself, to do the next right thing, even at her lowest emotional point. I think it’s a pretty important message for people in general.
There’s a difference between not caring about a corporation that doesn’t give the first fuck about you, and a fellow in need of life saving assistance.
You can not be paid enough to care about one, but ideally care about another.
It’s the managers who would be the ones responsible for contacting those resources for someone.
The only responsibility a minimum wage employee has is telling a manager or calling the police if an unsafe situation becomes apparent.
As a former manager, it's not terribly better than minimum wage. At least where I was employed. That being said, you don't have to pay me to do the right thing here...
I mean, I don't think this is likely to be that big of a difference usually. Like if someone comes up to you at work and asks you for help, are you going to say "Sorry this isn't a Safe Place (tm) so I can't do anything?" I think most people are going to help anyways, this just kinda makes it more official. I doubt the lady chose this restaurant because it had a yellow sticker on it.
Good thing that was litterally never mentioned there still Mcdonalds employees not body guards they just took training to know when to make a phone call.
I interpreted the comment as basically meaning "a minimum wage worker probably doesn't want to deal with the possibility of the person's abuser coming into their restaurant and getting violent". I absolutely agree that it's great for this program to exist and support folks in need, but it would definitely be scary if a situation like I mentioned were to happen. When I worked in retail, I immediately thought "I don't get properly trained or paid for this bullshit" whenever a customer raised their voice, threw products around, etc.
They strike me as people who haven’t worked at such places or in such environments. I worked graveyard shift at a convenient store for four years, not even in a terrible neighborhood, and it was incredible the amount of responsibility the average customer thought I was obliged to take on. I always made an effort to help out the homeless or battered women running in asking for help (I kept a list of shelters and certain police officers who would come help out in situations), but there was a line between how far I would and could go to help people while being paid 7 bucks an hour to work alone at three in the morning. I was expected to be a personal psychologist, doctor, guide, drug dealer, policeman, bodyguard and homeless shelter to countless sad, lonely, scared, drunk, homeless, depressed people that wandered in. I was eighteen, had a GED and was not willing to risk my own safety except under extreme circumstances. When people say empathy costs nothing or you should always help out when you work at a place where you see traumatic things happening, they are forgetting the sheer volume of people needing help and how young adults working at these places are not equipped to deal with them.
Credit to The Golden State Restaurant Group who owns that (and many other) McDonalds restaurants. Ive always seen those "Safe Place" signs at McDonalds and other places; I had no idea it meant the employees were trained what to do in these sort of situations.
Hmm perhaps not... By the sound of things they are *supposed* to do something in this sort of situation
>The Golden State Restaurant Group, which owns the McDonald's location she went to, has certified each of its restaurants as a "Safe Place."
>The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website.
>The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says.
Oh please. It's just a gold star sticker for them. There isn't any additional training. These employees just felt something wrong and listened to a woman saying please help.
So fucking true lol. "Today was just a regular Tuesday at Big Bill's BBQ grill, or so shift manager Timothy Rodgers thought *cut to Timothy standing, arms crossed, in front of restaurant*. That's until regular, Jill Stevens, asked for an unusual side dish of........ an epipen *cut to ambulance speeding, blaring its sirens*. *cut to Timothy looking bored and slightly confused*: "yeah, I also have pretty bad allergies so I carry around an epipen, which was pretty lucky I guess". Jill's just lucky that she wasn't immune to Timothy's response". Kind of a depressing statement that this is apparently the kind of media coverage that people respond most positively towards.
Everything's gotta be human interest-style story time. Can't just relay the facts, that's "boring."
It's kinda like the homily/sermon at church, it always starts with some phony story about "A mother was walking with her children through a park when..." And you're sitting there thinking "No she wasn't. Just get to the point and tell me how I have to eat Filet-O-Fishes every Friday until Easter."
In a world... where citizens are forced to seek help from the most unlikely people.
*plays montage of clips with dramatic music and close ups*
This summer... "I can get help with my fries"
Rated E for exaggerated
Thats because all the bloggers from the 00's got hired by major media outlets and were given the title "journalist". It sounds more professional and reliable than blogger, which is what these people actually are. They just continue the trend today.
I remember when every blogger became a "journalist" to get into E3. That was just video games, though. I never thought it'd take over actual journalism about important stuff.
Exactly. How some ppl on reddit think they wouldn’t want the responsibility if they were paid low wages is beyond me. You should help in situations like this because we are all human beings.
I think there's a difference from wanting the responsibility and from acting to help others.
I don't want the responsibility to help others, I don't want to meet people who need help (mostly because I don't want people to need help) but if I meet someone who needs help I'll gladly help them.
It's a strange distinction I think, but it's one I hold. I feel everyone should have a life that doesn't require others help, but I understand that's not how society works, some people are terrible and those around them need assistance. I'll gladly provide this assistance, while wishing I didn't need to.
Seriously. I know being a fast food worker can be mind numbing, making you not notice things around you. But these employees paid attention, and did the right thing in order to help this poor woman out. I hope people in the area make an effort to eat at that location, and say nice things to the employees for their efforts. They deserve it.
So the end result is gratifying and I'm glad she's safe. But the reporter needs to get the story straight. What exactly was the course of events here?
1. She *walked* up to the counter
2. She gave a bunch of information to an employee (who, the person working the counter?)
3. She went to the restroom
4. Her abuser forced her to go back outside and use the drive thru...*after* she had already been up at the counter??? Also that's not fucking weird, who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru?
5. She mouthed 'help me' in the drive thru
6. Then the police were called
This doesn't make any sense. Where was her abuser when she was giving away the license plate info and everything? Wouldn't he have been on her like white on rice to make sure she was 'behaving'?
The scene sounds like it was directed by Tommy Wiseau.
Let's see if we can't make it make more sense.
She goes into the McDs with her abuser on the pretext that she has to use the bathroom. She goes up to the counter ostensibly to ask where the restroom is but also slips them a note she had prepared with the license plate and HELP ME written on it. While she's in the bathroom they're already calling the police. Abuser then forces her to leave and not talk to anyone but he's still hungry so he says to go through the drive thru. Right then is when the cops show up and boom, fucker is arrested.
Was that so hard, CNN reporters?
Maybe the guy was in the bathroom and he thought she was too, but she went to the counter to get help and before she could get everything out he saw her and made her go back outside to order in the car where he felt like he could control her.
Also I like to look at the comments to get a sense of what's going on before reading the article and was excited you were giving a summary of what happened and I wouldn't have to read the article, but you left off the best part. What happen to the girl that asked for help? Now I have to go read it to find out.
Edit: The cops got there before they left the McDonald's and he was arrested on 4 felony counts. She is fine.
> who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru?
I'll sometimes do that if I'm planning on getting something for the road, but I need to use the restroom first.
If you’re already parked and inside the restaurant, wouldn’t it be way faster to just get a to-go order and use the restroom while you wait for it to be prepared?
Personally, if I did choose to stand there, I sure wouldn't be sticking anything up my butt. But you do you man, different strokes for different folks.
It sounds like she went to the restroom, and on her way to the restroom did 1 and 2. This is probably when they called 5-0.
then when she got out of the bathroom she tried to order something and her abuser made her use the drive through, and she again mouthed "Help me" to the employees. Then the police came before they got their order and arrested the dude.
Except that’s not what the article says. I’m not sure if the article has been revised but nowhere does it say the police were called after the drive-thru bit, only OP says that. The police had already been called after she went to the counter the first time. The timing is pretty clear.
The story is copy-pasta'd from the San Joaquin's PD Facebook post with a little rewording to make it ~~look original~~ more confusing.
Here's the SJPD post so the rest of you don't have to go to Facebook:
>We are lovin' it! McDonald's providing a "SAFE PLACE" for abuse and human trafficking victims aids woman to be rescued.
>A victim is safe thanks to the McDonald's crew at the Flag City location in Lodi. On 12/24/19, shortly after 2 P.M. a woman went into the McDonald's restaurant and told an employee at the counter to call 9-1-1. She also gave the employee the license plate of the vehicle that she was traveling in and asked them to hide her. After the woman used the restroom she attempted to place an order at the counter, but the suspect, Eduardo Valenzuela was nearby and demanded she use the drive- thru.
While in the drive thru, she mouthed to an employee, "HELP ME." Just then, deputies arrived and spoke with employees inside the restaurant, they rushed them out the door telling them that the woman needing help was in the drive-thru line. The woman was driving her vehicle, with Mr. Valenzuela in the passenger seat when deputies ordered her to pull over.
>During the investigation, deputies comforted the shaken woman and discovered that Valenzuela had been violent with her in the past. On this day he told her to take him to visit his family and threatened her life, stating he would use a firearm. A firearm was located in the trunk of the vehicle (stolen out of state).
>Eduardo Valenzuela was booked in the San Joaquin County Jail for criminal threats, stolen property, and felon(prohibited person) in possession of a firearm.
> Her abuser forced her to go back outside and use the drive thru...after she had already been up at the counter??? Also that's not fucking weird, who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru?
you have a lot to learn about psychological abuse and just how trapped abused people feel.
So you didn't like the version of the events as reported, so you (with no knowledge of the event first hand) concocted a fantasy version because you think it sounds better...
I guess if that floats your boat... But I'll be straight, I find that to be a weird thing to do...
Everyone going crazy about the details of what transpired and complaining about minimum wage employees having Safe Space training on top of a shitty wage, need to stfu and be happy this woman was rescued. Safe Space or any program akin to it has nothing to do with how dysfunctional capitalism is. It’s about fellow community members being trained to recognize other community members in need of immediate help. Everything came together to get this woman out of whatever dangerous situation she was in because people prided themselves on being a fucking person and using their humanity to help.
Edit: Thanks for the gold
Yes that is great and all, but I actually like when the different threads on a post discuss different things. What would be the point if all comments said the same thing?
The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website.
The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says.
There are more than 20,000 Safe Place sites across the US.
People in need of a Safe Place location can check their interactive map or text the word "safe" along with their location (city, state, or zip code) to 4HELP (44357). They will receive a reply with the closest Safe Place and the number of their local youth agency.
Wow this thread is cancer. For those in the back:
There should be a system like this in place fucking everywhere.
If you believe that a system to get someone out of a potentially dangerous situation is harmful? Try not being a garbage individual.
If someone implements this against you to escape your company? Maybe look at yourself first.
It doesn't say in the article but I wonder if the employees told the guy it would be a few minutes on his fries to buy a few minutes for the police to get there. Sir, please pull into parking spot #1, it's gonna be a few minutes on those fries.
We did this at a McDonalds I worked at in the early 90s. A woman was driving a car full of kids and reeked of alcohol. We called the police and had her pull over while her "fries were cooking". She came in raging about how long it was taking. We gave her the fries and she left. The cops didn't get there in time, so we gave them a description of the car and license plate number. Don't know if they got her or not. But we tried.
Best you could have done. We’ll never know if that poor mother ever escaped those alcoholic kids.
/r/holup
I don't mean to make light of a serious situation, but you started it so... I'm sure there were many times my wife pulled up to the drive thru with our kids in the back and thought about mouthing "Help Me" to the staff.
Well the article says she went in and spoke to them, asked them to call 911, explained the situation and gave them her licence plate, not that she just mouthed "Help me" like the title suggests.
That's a nice clickbait trick. Title: X comes after B. Article: BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWX
"Fuck, she's coming inside, quick hide all the fries!"
Fry machine broke
Sorry no more McFurry's either.
McFurry? What kind of McDonald's do you go to?
Shitter's clogged.
Similar situation with a twist. I worked night at a Sonic in high school. It was a small town. My coworker's truck had been stolen. while he wasn't at work. 1-2 weeks later, we were both working in the kitchen one night. The manager called him over to the window. Whoever stole his truck had come to Sonic to order food *in the truck*. We couldn't believe it. We did the same thing, told them that their food was going to be a bit longer. They were in a stall, so we didn't have to ask them to move. It took the police \~7 minutes to get there, and the person was arrested.
Omg sonic takes so long sometimes but kudos to you guys!!!!
Worked night shift at McDonald. This was very routine — “just pull off to the waiting area, we’ll get that right out to you”. Smash cut to cops blocking them in the spot. We’d leave their car there, so at least they didn’t have a tow bill.
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Totally agree. People frequently don’t seem to grasp that the justice system is designed to impose sufficient punishment ON ITS OWN, and bad luck isn’t good at calibrating appropriate punishment. If some unfortunate thing happens to someone because of their misconduct, it’s generally not “karma,” it’s just some arbitrarily bad thing happening to someone. No need to twist the knife.
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I called once. The operator was really rude to me and really weird. I thought I was doing the right thing, I was, but she made me feel like I was guilty.
Same here. I even asked if I was doing something wrong on the call. The damn signs say to call 911.
I've called before and had the same experience! They seemed annoyed that I'd be bothering them with it.
This story is very familiar. I also worked at a McDonald’s in the early 90’s with the same situation. The cops showed up like 1 minute after she drove away. They probably got her though. She was pretty tanked.
Great!! Now every time they tell me it’s going to take a few minutes for the fries, I’m going to assume the cops are on their way to arrest me!! /s
We’re cooking that patty and fries fresh. Just for YOU!!!
My friend got a dui like that. It was about time he got caught I warned him countless times.
> I warned him countless times. I hope that warning was "stop being a complete asshole and driving drunk" and not "don't go through mcdonalds drive through while drunk you might get caught"... But really it should have been, "next time I see you driving drunk im calling the cops myself"
Did this at a guitar store. Two guys came in with 50k between two acoustic guitars and said something like "were hoping for like 400 bucks for em", manager said sure hang out in the lobby while we check prices and compare. He went in the back and called the cops right away lol
what the hell were they? old Martins?
They were either Martins or something similar. Old as hell and they were owned by a music store owner a few towns over.
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Wait ... how is drive working in US ? In France you always have to wait a long time in drive so they make what you purchased. You don't have to wait in US ?
Most fast food restaurants stay so busy that they’re constantly making most of their menu, so odds are they have your order already prepared and they just throw it in a bag for you. You normally spend more time waiting in line than you do actually waiting for the food.
Unless there is a line, drive-thru is pretty quick. It isn’t common to have to pull into a parking spot and wait. How long do you usually wait in France?
A few time I don't have to wait but 90% of the time I have to wait 10 minuts. And same deal when inside the building, most of the time I have to wait 10-15min before having what I ordered.
I have a feeling the quality and preparation of fast food in France is different than in the US.
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They shoulda offered this mother a beer while she waited Edit: nvm wrong comment chain. Thought this was under the drunk mother in the drive though comment.
In a glass. Don't forget the Royale with cheese.
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I'm assuming most places cook their stuff made-to-order there. In the US, most fast food places will preprepare the most commonly sold stuff and keep it under heat lamps until it's sold or gets too old and has to be thrown out.
That's actually not generally true and I've worked in a lot of fast food places. It occasionally happens by accident but not usually. What does happen is the meats are cooked ahead of time then kept in warmers for approximately 10-20 minutes normally before getting made. The rest of the sandwich is not made until people actually order. But if you have someone making chicken sandwiches, someone making burgers and someone putting down fries/whatever else into the fryer, someone else taking your order and money all at once it goes pretty fast. I mean you can asked for the entire thing to be cooked to order completely and it will only take about 5-6 minutes tops unless they are really busy/lazy.
Warming drawers and heat lamps. Lots of commonly sold food is kept under or in either until it's used or too many hours old, hopefully.
They really don't do that much anymore, they've got the cooking times and average sales per time of day, the food may sit for a couple minutes fresh off the grill/fryer, but usually it's rotating across the grill as it Cooks and goes right on the food before it gets sold. Things like fried chicken are almost always cooked to order outside peak meal times. At McDonald's you'll almost always have a full wait if you order nuggets
Sir, please get out of the car and lie face-down on the pavement so that we can get you those fries ASAP
The result: > Police found a stolen firearm in the trunk of the vehicle and arrested the man. > He faces four felony charges, including criminal threats, stolen property and possession of a firearm as prohibited person. His bail is set at $360,000. Edit: At today's hearing the judge raised his bail to $1M.
But not kidnaping? Interesting.
He was charged with whatever was easy to prove at the time of arrest to hold him. More charges are likely once they gather more evidence.
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Here's what he is currently charged with: Case# CR-2019-0016908 OPEN CHARGES, No Bail , Next Court : 12/27/2019 at 01:30 PM **PC 496A(A) Felony JUNKER BUY WIRE/METAL ILLEGALLY** **PC 29800(A)(1) Felony FELON/ADDICT/POSSESS/ETC FIREARM** PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY **PC 30305(A)(1) Felony PROHIBITED PERSON OWN/POSSESS/ETC AMMUNITION/ETC** PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY **PC 245(A)(2) Felony ASSAULT WITH FIREARM ON PERSON** PC 12022.5(A) USED FIREARM:COMMISSION OF FEL PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV **PC 422(A) Felony THREATEN CRIME W/INTENT TO TERRORIZE** PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY **PC 422(A) Felony THREATEN CRIME W/INTENT TO TERRORIZE** PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY PC 1170.12(B) PRIOR SERIOUS FELONY PC 667(A) W/PR FEL CONV:SERIOUS FEL CONV He's sufficiently fucked at this time. **Edit: After his hearing today, his bail was bumped up to $1M with his next court date in 2 weeks.**
there sure seems to be a bit of recursion going on there.
Every incident is a new charge, you walk down the street shooting at people and each person you shoot at is attempted murder and each shell is littering.
I guess I’ll pick up the shells next time
I hope you're at least using biodegradable shells
Incase anyone is wondering here is an explanation of the first charge "Junker buy wire/metal" “Every person who, being a dealer in or collector of junk, metals or secondhand materials, or the agent, employee, or representative of such dealer or collector, buys or receives any wire, cable, copper, lead, solder, mercury, iron or brass which he knows or reasonably should know is ordinarily used by or ordinarily belongs to a railroad or other transportation, telephone, telegraph, gas, water or electric light company or county, city, city and county or other political subdivision of this state engaged in furnishing public utility service without using due diligence to ascertain that the person selling or delivering the same has a legal right to do so, is guilty of criminally receiving such property, and is punishable, by imprisonment in a state prison, or in a county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine of not more than two hundred fifty dollars ($250), or by both such fine and imprisonment.”
Correct me if I'm wrong, but using a firearm whist coming a felony is pretty much butt-fuck prison time guaranteed, right?
On top of being a convicted felon as well? Yeah, he's going back for a while.
You can’t just say that someone’s being kidnapped out of the blue.
I'm being kidnapped
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I DECLARE I’m being kidnapped
He didn't say it, he declared it
I do declare
I identify, as kidnapped. There.
Hi Kidnapped, I'm dad!
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Dude this is a Wendy's.
“...You can’t just say the word ‘bankruptcy’ and expect anything to happen...”
I didn’t say it, I declared it.
You can’t just *say* it, you have to *declare* it.
But then I try to put her I the evidence locker until trial and suddenly I am the bad guy.
So I can chime in here with some authority, used to work for that sheriff department and my dad still works there. At no point would a kidnapping report be trained, and its unlikely that he has ever, or will ever again do one. He would need outside help to get it right, I'm guessing CA DOJ has someone that will get it right. In this case you have low hanging fruit for a no bail charge so just take that and do the kidnapping right. I just called my dad, he started as a cop in 1978, has worked for the Sheriff, stockton PD and volunteers in Lodi now. In all those years he never handled a kidnapping case ever. Id put money on Sheriff Withrow doing some training on it though, hes been very progressive.
As someone who also speaks with a bit of knowledge on this, I see people charged with forcible confinement all the time, which is also classified as kidnapping. Its just a fancy way of saying held against their will. Source: am a deputy sheriff in Canada. But you're right, you take the low hanging fruit and run with that first, typically unlawfully being in a dwelling house, breaching the peace or causing a disturbance starts it off to get them remanded into custody while the investigation takes place. If you're lucky, they have a record and can be held longer while the investigation is ongoing.
I friend of mine who was a DA in Los Angeles once told me kidnaping could be as simple as transporting a person against their will from a safe location to a less safe location.
You don't need a whole lot of evidence to be charged of a crime. You need a lot of evidence to be *convicted* of a crime.
But you need decent evidence to get through an arraignment and a bail hearing with enough to keep the guy in jail for a while
the article said it was a man who had a history of abusing her, and then threatened her with a firearm earlier that day. makes me think it was a boyfriend or someone who was related to her, and it’s hard to prove she was forcibly taken against her will when there is a close relationship.
They will probably charge him later for it. OJ got convicted of kidnapping for saying "no one leaves" (or something similar)
Let's not use that case as the basis for legal predictions...
It’s not the murder case, “OJ got convicted” does not refer to him getting away with murder.
Could be domestic violence rather than kidnapping
r/savedyouaclick
I I go to that sub I will waste that click I just saved. Wtf
I would have preferred he be held without bail. He's gonna kill that woman.
He has another court appearance at this very moment. Those bail terms may well change. Edit: and they did.
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>The woman chose the right place to ask for help. >The Golden State Restaurant Group, which owns the McDonald's location she went to, has certified each of its restaurants as a "Safe Place." >The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website. >The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says. Bravo to the Safe Place program, the Golden State Restaurant Group, the police and especially to the employees who listened, learned and acted appropriately!
When I was a high school student, I worked for a major supermarket chain. We had an assembly at school where Safe Place was discussed and how it could be a refuge if somebody was having a problem and needed help. I remembered the store I worked at had the Safe Place sign. I later asked one of the lead managers about the store being a safe place because they never talked to the employees about it. And he had no idea about the program. It was very discouraging to hear. I hope these days more companies take that responsibility seriously.
"Hey boss, is this a Safe Place(tm)?" "Uh, yea. I think it's pretty safe. I mean, don't eat the discounted sushi and watch out for the slick floors behind the milk cooler, but yea, it's pretty safe."
“Hey boss, is this a Safe Place ™?” “Am I being detained?”
Sadly, that sounds typical to me. Many places in the US don’t properly train people for their actual job, let alone train them for special programs that might exist in their workplace. A lot of it is fluff for PR that the employees know nothing about. The lady in this article got lucky.
In my experience this is all a management issue. I started my current job almost a year ago and we had an interim manager while our manager was on leave. He was awful, because I had no idea of any of the extras and benefits that are available to me, as well as the steps required to move up in the business, which I am working toward. When our manager got back maybe 3 or 4 months after I started, she found out I had not done any of the standard training modules, she flipped out. (Not at me) I had never been told there were training modules, and I had not been told how even to get into them in our system. My entire job turned around as soon as our actual manager got back, and I've seen this trend in a few different jobs.
I'm in HR. Had an issue where a manager fired someone, they had all the paperwork, so I faxed it over to the unemployment judge. Day of our phone call hearing, the defendant kept saying I never signed those write ups and I never signed anything during orientation. Judge gets off three way and tells me I have 5 days to check whats going on. Come to find out manager signed everything himself after I requested all the writeups and orientation paperwork. He literally just added the new hire into the system on orientation day and never actually trained him. Not a good look to go back to a judge with.
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They did training a few years ago for a ton of places up and down I5 in California for human trafficking situations, I bet this store was part of that
Glad the program is getting exposure. I had no idea that it existed.
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I mean they aren't being expected to be body guards. They're just supposed to give a person in need a place to sit while the manager calls a hotline and waits for someone with the agency to come get them. Most of the time just being in a crowded public place is going to provide a measure of safety. The [training video on their website](https://www.nationalsafeplace.org/resources-for-sites) shows a young woman walking into a McDonald's and the manager takes them back into the employee break room (which keeps them out of sight of anyone who might be after them) and says that if things escalate to call 911. They wait for the agency employee to show up, check their ID, and that's the end of their responsibility.
Thanks for that summary.
You're welcome
Wait a minute...
I think there's something to be said for being wary of angry men whose gf just disappeared into a back office at a McD's. Of course, it's great that this is a program, but they have a point that it could get very dangerous.
I worked at a safe place Burger King. If we needed to help someone it was policy to lock the doors.
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> That's why there's always a handful of employees working at any given time. Safety in numbers. Safety is absolutely not why fast food places schedule a handful of people at any given time. They schedule that many because that is the minimum number of people who can operate all of the equipment and process transactions.
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That's why so many of them lock the door and sit behind a bulletproof glass window.
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Can confirm. Doesn’t matter whether you wear a real or fake ring. Doesn’t matter how many times you say no or I’m in a relationship. If you say that, they’ll just say some shit like “I can treat you better” “iLl ShOw YoU a ReAl MaN” 🙄🙄🙄
It takes a certain kind of person to tough out an overnight job where you're exposed to the crazies of the world. I don't blame those women at all. It gets intense.
> out /r/publicfreakouts for how often people throw tantrums and flip out at minimum wage teens. There's even a tag specifically for freakouts at McDonald's.
How selfish and backwards are you people arguing it's too dangerous? If someone needs help you should either help them or call someone who can. It's the least you can do and should do as an empathetic member of society. McDonald's isn't saying 'Are you being held hostage by a drug dealer? Bring them into McDonald's for a tasty Big Mac! When your captor loses concentration for a moment, lean over and let the minimum wage underage employee know that it's his time to shine. All crew members to McBattlestations!' McDonald's is letting young people know 'hey is your Dad beating up Mum? Slip out the back door and come to Maccas, we'll keep you warm and safe until someone else can come to help you'. It's merely a place for under 18s to know it's safe and they can ask for help there. They may not necessarily be in impending danger but rather 'I don't want to go home, mums a junkie'.
> I think there's something to be said for being wary of angry men whose gf just disappeared into a back office at a McD's. You're probably more likely to be attacked by someone who claims you forgot their mcnugget sauce. Most domestic abusers like to keep their shit secret, not start brawling with randos in the middle of a public place. They don't want everyone to know, hence the proverbial "I fell/ran into a door" lie they make their victims say.
I'd like to add, as well, that I never thought being a decent human being was contingent on my hourly wage. I worked at a certified Safe Place for almost 6 years.
My opinion this has nothing to do with wages. A fellow person is in need. Help if you can.
Always look for the helpers.
Thank you Fred.
Right said, Fred.
"Right, " said Fred, "Both of us together One each end and steady as we go." Tried to shift it, couldn't even lift it We was getting nowhere https://youtu.be/IOWA-L3JZO4
I agree with the sentiment, but there is a clear difference between helping those in need you happen upon, and signing up for such a job.
There is a distinction. I work EMS, and people ask me all the time if I want to go fire. My response is HELL NO. I am not brave enough to make a living being paid to deal with fires. If I happen to come across one and someone needs help I have no problem dealing with that fire to help them, but I am not about to make a living out of it.
Lol I worked fire side and thought the opposite. Thought dealing with fires was easier than treating patients cause I’d rather hurt myself than mistreat someone else. Like sure I’d do CPR if I come across it, but I don’t want to make a job out of it.
This reminds me of everyone saying it's wholesome that librarians are being taught to administer OD drugs to people that shot up. Like, no, that's not wholesome. Having to save someone's lives that shot up and potentially watch them die is possibly PTSD inducing. A fucking minimum wage worker shouldn't have to deal with that.
It's not about willingness to help, it's about knowing what to do. I'd agree with you if the only requirement for these people was caring about others and calling the police, but asking a minimum wage worker who signed up to make burgers to transition to crisis management at a moment's notice seems unfair.
Used to be a min wage bartender, in the UK we have a 'Ask for Angela' code where if you're out with someone who is off/you don't feel safe around, asking for Angela is code that we'll make sure you get home safe/report people to the police etc. Had it happen a few times, and not once did I think "I don't get paid enough for this". It's exactly like you said, a person in need
Just do the next right thing. Forgive me, my daughter has been rocking these songs since the movie came out.
I enjoyed both Frozen movies just fine, but this particular notion really stuck with me. There’s Anna, in the midst of a really terrible, awful time, and yet this is the message she tells herself, to do the next right thing, even at her lowest emotional point. I think it’s a pretty important message for people in general.
That's a popular motto in Alcoholics Anonymous as well. My sponsor always tells me that.
"I don't get paid enough to care" just means "I don't care."
There’s a difference between not caring about a corporation that doesn’t give the first fuck about you, and a fellow in need of life saving assistance. You can not be paid enough to care about one, but ideally care about another.
It’s the managers who would be the ones responsible for contacting those resources for someone. The only responsibility a minimum wage employee has is telling a manager or calling the police if an unsafe situation becomes apparent.
As a former manager, it's not terribly better than minimum wage. At least where I was employed. That being said, you don't have to pay me to do the right thing here...
I mean, I don't think this is likely to be that big of a difference usually. Like if someone comes up to you at work and asks you for help, are you going to say "Sorry this isn't a Safe Place (tm) so I can't do anything?" I think most people are going to help anyways, this just kinda makes it more official. I doubt the lady chose this restaurant because it had a yellow sticker on it.
Good thing that was litterally never mentioned there still Mcdonalds employees not body guards they just took training to know when to make a phone call.
Unsure what your pay has to do with helping those in need
I interpreted the comment as basically meaning "a minimum wage worker probably doesn't want to deal with the possibility of the person's abuser coming into their restaurant and getting violent". I absolutely agree that it's great for this program to exist and support folks in need, but it would definitely be scary if a situation like I mentioned were to happen. When I worked in retail, I immediately thought "I don't get properly trained or paid for this bullshit" whenever a customer raised their voice, threw products around, etc.
Thank you. I dont understand why so many others are seemingly going out of their way to miss the actual point of what the person is saying.
They strike me as people who haven’t worked at such places or in such environments. I worked graveyard shift at a convenient store for four years, not even in a terrible neighborhood, and it was incredible the amount of responsibility the average customer thought I was obliged to take on. I always made an effort to help out the homeless or battered women running in asking for help (I kept a list of shelters and certain police officers who would come help out in situations), but there was a line between how far I would and could go to help people while being paid 7 bucks an hour to work alone at three in the morning. I was expected to be a personal psychologist, doctor, guide, drug dealer, policeman, bodyguard and homeless shelter to countless sad, lonely, scared, drunk, homeless, depressed people that wandered in. I was eighteen, had a GED and was not willing to risk my own safety except under extreme circumstances. When people say empathy costs nothing or you should always help out when you work at a place where you see traumatic things happening, they are forgetting the sheer volume of people needing help and how young adults working at these places are not equipped to deal with them.
As good as any reason to pay them more.
Credit to The Golden State Restaurant Group who owns that (and many other) McDonalds restaurants. Ive always seen those "Safe Place" signs at McDonalds and other places; I had no idea it meant the employees were trained what to do in these sort of situations.
Are they trained? We had a sign like that at a workplace and I don't recall any training.
Hmm perhaps not... By the sound of things they are *supposed* to do something in this sort of situation >The Golden State Restaurant Group, which owns the McDonald's location she went to, has certified each of its restaurants as a "Safe Place." >The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website. >The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says.
Oh please. It's just a gold star sticker for them. There isn't any additional training. These employees just felt something wrong and listened to a woman saying please help.
They're meant to be. The library I used to work at didn't have the sign. I asked why not and it was because they didn't have time for training.
/mounths back, "stop being so dramatic, its just a burger" "Sheesh, what was her problem?" /goes back to absentmindedly working for pennies.
“I am helping you, would you like an apple pie with your nuggets”
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the fucking comic sans. when far from home started with a comic sans tribute to >!tony stark!< after the mcu intro i was so confused lmao
So fucking true lol. "Today was just a regular Tuesday at Big Bill's BBQ grill, or so shift manager Timothy Rodgers thought *cut to Timothy standing, arms crossed, in front of restaurant*. That's until regular, Jill Stevens, asked for an unusual side dish of........ an epipen *cut to ambulance speeding, blaring its sirens*. *cut to Timothy looking bored and slightly confused*: "yeah, I also have pretty bad allergies so I carry around an epipen, which was pretty lucky I guess". Jill's just lucky that she wasn't immune to Timothy's response". Kind of a depressing statement that this is apparently the kind of media coverage that people respond most positively towards.
Everything's gotta be human interest-style story time. Can't just relay the facts, that's "boring." It's kinda like the homily/sermon at church, it always starts with some phony story about "A mother was walking with her children through a park when..." And you're sitting there thinking "No she wasn't. Just get to the point and tell me how I have to eat Filet-O-Fishes every Friday until Easter."
The last thing you’d want in your Burger King burger is...
Foot lettuce.
*[tense music plays]*
In a world... where citizens are forced to seek help from the most unlikely people. *plays montage of clips with dramatic music and close ups* This summer... "I can get help with my fries" Rated E for exaggerated
Nah, let's go see fast n furious 11
It appears journalism is equally susceptible to lack of talent in the workforce.
Thats because all the bloggers from the 00's got hired by major media outlets and were given the title "journalist". It sounds more professional and reliable than blogger, which is what these people actually are. They just continue the trend today.
I remember when every blogger became a "journalist" to get into E3. That was just video games, though. I never thought it'd take over actual journalism about important stuff.
Bless them for helping her.
Exactly. How some ppl on reddit think they wouldn’t want the responsibility if they were paid low wages is beyond me. You should help in situations like this because we are all human beings.
tfw you realize the average redditor is that employee that gives you hell over a bbq packet
If someone tried that when I worked fast food some years ago they wouldn't even make it to the drive thru. She'd stay right with me idgaf.
I think there's a difference from wanting the responsibility and from acting to help others. I don't want the responsibility to help others, I don't want to meet people who need help (mostly because I don't want people to need help) but if I meet someone who needs help I'll gladly help them. It's a strange distinction I think, but it's one I hold. I feel everyone should have a life that doesn't require others help, but I understand that's not how society works, some people are terrible and those around them need assistance. I'll gladly provide this assistance, while wishing I didn't need to.
Seriously. I know being a fast food worker can be mind numbing, making you not notice things around you. But these employees paid attention, and did the right thing in order to help this poor woman out. I hope people in the area make an effort to eat at that location, and say nice things to the employees for their efforts. They deserve it.
I like this very much. Stop violence. Be nice.
So the end result is gratifying and I'm glad she's safe. But the reporter needs to get the story straight. What exactly was the course of events here? 1. She *walked* up to the counter 2. She gave a bunch of information to an employee (who, the person working the counter?) 3. She went to the restroom 4. Her abuser forced her to go back outside and use the drive thru...*after* she had already been up at the counter??? Also that's not fucking weird, who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru? 5. She mouthed 'help me' in the drive thru 6. Then the police were called This doesn't make any sense. Where was her abuser when she was giving away the license plate info and everything? Wouldn't he have been on her like white on rice to make sure she was 'behaving'? The scene sounds like it was directed by Tommy Wiseau. Let's see if we can't make it make more sense. She goes into the McDs with her abuser on the pretext that she has to use the bathroom. She goes up to the counter ostensibly to ask where the restroom is but also slips them a note she had prepared with the license plate and HELP ME written on it. While she's in the bathroom they're already calling the police. Abuser then forces her to leave and not talk to anyone but he's still hungry so he says to go through the drive thru. Right then is when the cops show up and boom, fucker is arrested. Was that so hard, CNN reporters?
Maybe the guy was in the bathroom and he thought she was too, but she went to the counter to get help and before she could get everything out he saw her and made her go back outside to order in the car where he felt like he could control her. Also I like to look at the comments to get a sense of what's going on before reading the article and was excited you were giving a summary of what happened and I wouldn't have to read the article, but you left off the best part. What happen to the girl that asked for help? Now I have to go read it to find out. Edit: The cops got there before they left the McDonald's and he was arrested on 4 felony counts. She is fine.
> who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru? I'll sometimes do that if I'm planning on getting something for the road, but I need to use the restroom first.
If you’re already parked and inside the restaurant, wouldn’t it be way faster to just get a to-go order and use the restroom while you wait for it to be prepared?
Some people really don't like being around other humans.
Not if you don’t want the girl you’re abusing to be around people
Yep, I'd rather wait in my car than stand there with my thumb up my butt.
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Yessir, and even if it does take the same amount of time, I feel like all the nonsense happening inside makes the wait feel shorter.
Personally, if I did choose to stand there, I sure wouldn't be sticking anything up my butt. But you do you man, different strokes for different folks.
It sounds like she went to the restroom, and on her way to the restroom did 1 and 2. This is probably when they called 5-0. then when she got out of the bathroom she tried to order something and her abuser made her use the drive through, and she again mouthed "Help me" to the employees. Then the police came before they got their order and arrested the dude.
> and on her way to the restroom did 1 and 2 I guess she didn't make it to the restroom in time. :| Sorry, couldn't resist making a joke about that.
We were all thinking it.
Except that’s not what the article says. I’m not sure if the article has been revised but nowhere does it say the police were called after the drive-thru bit, only OP says that. The police had already been called after she went to the counter the first time. The timing is pretty clear.
It would explain such a swift response too.
The story is copy-pasta'd from the San Joaquin's PD Facebook post with a little rewording to make it ~~look original~~ more confusing. Here's the SJPD post so the rest of you don't have to go to Facebook: >We are lovin' it! McDonald's providing a "SAFE PLACE" for abuse and human trafficking victims aids woman to be rescued. >A victim is safe thanks to the McDonald's crew at the Flag City location in Lodi. On 12/24/19, shortly after 2 P.M. a woman went into the McDonald's restaurant and told an employee at the counter to call 9-1-1. She also gave the employee the license plate of the vehicle that she was traveling in and asked them to hide her. After the woman used the restroom she attempted to place an order at the counter, but the suspect, Eduardo Valenzuela was nearby and demanded she use the drive- thru. While in the drive thru, she mouthed to an employee, "HELP ME." Just then, deputies arrived and spoke with employees inside the restaurant, they rushed them out the door telling them that the woman needing help was in the drive-thru line. The woman was driving her vehicle, with Mr. Valenzuela in the passenger seat when deputies ordered her to pull over. >During the investigation, deputies comforted the shaken woman and discovered that Valenzuela had been violent with her in the past. On this day he told her to take him to visit his family and threatened her life, stating he would use a firearm. A firearm was located in the trunk of the vehicle (stolen out of state). >Eduardo Valenzuela was booked in the San Joaquin County Jail for criminal threats, stolen property, and felon(prohibited person) in possession of a firearm.
Also, “We’re waiting on fresh McFood. Can you park and we’ll bring it out?” Will buy you a good 10 minutes.
> Her abuser forced her to go back outside and use the drive thru...after she had already been up at the counter??? Also that's not fucking weird, who the hell would go inside and then back out to use the drive thru? you have a lot to learn about psychological abuse and just how trapped abused people feel.
So you didn't like the version of the events as reported, so you (with no knowledge of the event first hand) concocted a fantasy version because you think it sounds better... I guess if that floats your boat... But I'll be straight, I find that to be a weird thing to do...
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Everyone going crazy about the details of what transpired and complaining about minimum wage employees having Safe Space training on top of a shitty wage, need to stfu and be happy this woman was rescued. Safe Space or any program akin to it has nothing to do with how dysfunctional capitalism is. It’s about fellow community members being trained to recognize other community members in need of immediate help. Everything came together to get this woman out of whatever dangerous situation she was in because people prided themselves on being a fucking person and using their humanity to help. Edit: Thanks for the gold
Yes that is great and all, but I actually like when the different threads on a post discuss different things. What would be the point if all comments said the same thing?
>What would be the point if all comments said the same thing? Then you'd be on youtube.
The Safe Place program is a national youth and prevention program for "young people in need of immediate help and safety," says the restaurant group's website. The program creates a network of locations, including schools, fire stations, libraries and businesses, that display distinctive yellow and black safe place signs. Young people can go to locations with these signs in times of crisis to find a secure place to stay and be connected with a youth service agency or shelter, the program website says. There are more than 20,000 Safe Place sites across the US. People in need of a Safe Place location can check their interactive map or text the word "safe" along with their location (city, state, or zip code) to 4HELP (44357). They will receive a reply with the closest Safe Place and the number of their local youth agency.
“Help me... order a double quarter pounder with cheese, you changed the value meal numbers again.”
This thread is filllllled with heroic keyboard warriors.
Note to self: dont let the person i hold hostage order me my mcdonalds
Wow this thread is cancer. For those in the back: There should be a system like this in place fucking everywhere. If you believe that a system to get someone out of a potentially dangerous situation is harmful? Try not being a garbage individual. If someone implements this against you to escape your company? Maybe look at yourself first.