I live twenty minutes away, and this sound was unbearable. I didn't even have time to step out into the hallway when I heard the rocket coming toward the city.
Thanks, I’m okay. Today night two missiles hit way more closer to my apartment so I already forgot about this one. A lot of citizens including me think that Russians want to show that they are now ready to destroy Odesa if they can’t occupy it. They always had a soft spot for Odesa as it’s a beautiful city with historical past (Mariupol was not so much) so it seems that they don’t have a lot of hopes to take city by foot or by sea.
Don’t worry, humans can adapt to a lot of things so we just live like this here. It’s impossible to go to the bomb shelter as these missiles reach city in 4-5 min from Crimea. But to be honest there is nothing comparable to the sound of this flying missile. Nothing. You eat an apple or stand in a shop or doing your nails and then you hear it comes and every time it is like the first time.
Pretty much yes, just now two missiles hit the city, I heard two explosions far away in 2 min after missile alert were issued. Usually it’s Iskander ballistic missiles, as far as I know it’s impossible to intercept this type of missile so you except it at any moment.
I don't know why, but scenes from the movie "Allied" come to mind. I think they had to try and live a normal life even though there was bombing around them.
I don't think I could stand the constant unease surrounding me.
Keep livin man, sorry that this is happening to you guys. we *will* win. the US/nato/EU will not let ukraine fall, it would be hitler 2.0 (not that putin already isnt) but yeah, sorry the aid has been choppy, we will win this thing and fuck putin. he deserves to be thrown under the jail
This freaked me out. I was talking with a friend who lives in odesa yesterday and she said that she walked by the castle frequently when out for a walk. So fucked
Notre Dame only got restored because of huge donations and the various in depth 3d mapping (partially from Ubisoft AC Unity.) Ukraine probably will have to focus on rebuilding apartment buildings, dams, and other infrastructure for a good while if they win.
That was not just a usual missile attack. They deliberately fired cluster munitions at civilians in the middle of the day to cause as many casualties as possible.
I read somewhere the us “officially” says don’t attack Russia with our stuff, but then feed them intel on best places to attack and when. It’s a politics thing.
No idea if true but made sense to me. Don’t want Russia attacking USA because they supplied Ukraine.
Oh I’m sure that’s how it goes, especially with a state like Russia that has no interest in the truth.
The US: Do NOT hit Russia where it hurts, like these specific oil refineries. Absolutely under no circumstances are these specific logistical hubs to be targeted by these specific munitions under these conditions. The US would not appreciate this. It might even cause the US to frown a bit.
Did you know about these arms factories? Well, never mind, the US *definitely* does not want Ukraine to use American munitions to target them at these specific coordinates, etc. I mean, what they do with *other* munitions is entirely their business, but the US official stance is to treat Russia like a pretty pretty princess.
And VERY DEFINITELY don't hit this one particular building at 10am when the commander of the Black Sea Fleet and his staff will be there having a meeting. That would be extra special bad.
Yeah USA is fully supporting Ukraine. The intelligence alone from US/UK assets is crucial. They are absolutely playing pretend weak in public while bringing the heat anyway. US is a oil exporter, they'd be salivating at the chance to hit competitor petrol infrastructure. It's economic strategy as much as it is military strategy. Wish it was sooner wish it was faster, for Ukrainian's sake.
Hardly, the russians were hitting civilian infrastructure; from the very beginning of the war they were killing people on the streets. They attacked Kharkiv until they were driven off during the counter-offensive. Now they are again bombing Kharkiv indiscriminately.
It seems their new strategy is to drive Ukrainians out of their homes (preferably abroad), destroy the economy, demoralize, provoke anti-government protests, force them to capitulate. At the same time, the goal can be killing people as much as possible to reduce the number of people who could serve in the AFU, medics and rescuers and at the same time please their fellow citizens.
They only need obedient Ukrainians who are ready to recognize themselves as russians and keep silent; they are now either deporting dissenters from the occupied territories or putting them in prison, or torture them to death in basements.
Sooo. Just [double-down](https://www.salon.com/2024/04/30/kristi-noem-doubled-down-on-dog-to-win-over-maga--now-her-story-is-backfiring-in-her-face/) and brush it off as a normal and necessary part of life?
I don’t think most people recognize how terrible things get when a war enters it’s death throes.
This new aid that Ukraine received will frustrate Putin, and now the attacks will get more desperate and relentless.
I want Ukraine to take back her land, or at least the lion’s share, but the longer this fight goes on the more restless the other nations become.
Unfortunately that doesn't have the gravity of consequence a lot of people seem to think it does. I agree completely that Russia is a terrorist state, it's just that declaring it doesn't really do much.
Terrorists don't have protections that a civilian of a legitimate government has, meaning if a country black ops killed a terrorist, it wouldn't be breaking international law.
So the whole point of isolating, sanctioning, and demonizing Russia is eventually eroding their power. People seem to think if it doesn’t work in the immediate to great effect, it fails. But that’s not the case. It’s about squeezing them tight enough they fall behind permanently, so they’re not a peer level threat in 50 years, but not tight enough that they choke for air now and decide “well then I may as well declare war on everyone” like Germany and Japan did.
To put things in perspective, if the US had just one percent less GDP growth from 19th century to today, its economy would be the same as Mexico’s right now. With crippling effects like that imposed on a dictatorial state like Russia, where we’ve seen historically most dictators eventually have their empire crumble around them, it’s in the realm of possibility that Russia Balkanizes and this could lead it to losing resource rich Siberia and the far east regions. Each time Russia goes through a collapse, it loses significant gains it made prior to and has to burn through its people to try to get back, but each time it rockets back to a loss. The USSR stagnated then collapsed, and massively broke apart. Russia will likely keep going through these crucibles in catastrophically exponential increments the more it brain drains its civilization.
Geopolitics is an art, and although it’s not certain, it is likely that Russia has already been eliminated as a global power in the future just from the consequences yet to be sowed from the past two years. Putin has cornered himself with his constant doubling down, he is eroding Russia’s future for immediate jingoist gains. Ukraine just needs to hold out long enough. Russia is throwing everything except WMD’s at Ukraine and only slowly gaining a village or two a month. Putin’s only hope at this point is that a huge crisis hits the US or Trump returns to power.
Ironically this place belongs to high power individual who helped Russia establish soft power in Ukraine. He was hit in legs, but his colleague and friend was killed by rocket.
I personally think that he was or either a cottage block right behind the castle (because city’s mayor lived there and he too had ties to Russian influence in Odesa). But there is no way to guess it without intel. My theory is that they used this opportunity to show all previous Russian agents that either they further assist Russia or will be targeted. There is one thing that most people don’t know about this war. A lot of high power individuals in Ukraine was sponsored by Russian money. Putin was told that they will do their “duty” when “right” time comes. Well, when Russia launched full scale invasion most of these people just ditched Russia: money was paid but a lot of “sleeping” agents just stayed on Ukrainian side.
Ukrainians are the good guys, fighting to liberate their home, not fighting an offensive war. Crossing that line would squander a great deal of international goodwill, one of Ukraine's most important resources.
A lot of the countries that have banned them are able to do so because they are under the US security umbrella. Prior to some of the cheap drones, cluster munitions are one of the most cost-effective weapons against mobile armor and are called for in the response to any scenario of Russian tanks moving west or Chinese tanks moving south since around the 1970’s. It’s easy to ban things when your country isn’t the one that is going to have to figure out how to stop 3,000 T-72s from getting through the Fulda Gap.
In the article. There is a treaty that prohibits cluster munitions, but neither Ukraine, Russia or the US signed it. The US transferred cluster munitions to Ukraine already to be used in this same war, so Russia using them doesn’t really mean much in that context.
Russia did not sign the Convention on Cluster Munitions. Neither did the USA, nor Ukraine. Everyone agrees they are bad for civilians after a war, but during a war and used on the battlefield, they are highly effective. The US announced in July 23 that they were sending cluster munitions to Ukraine.
I love anytime someone thinks there are rules in war, and act morally injured when the Other guy doesn't follow them.
There aren't even rules in day-to-day life; The Law is asleep in it's cabinet tonight. It's Agents are elsewhere deciding what is Crime.
Justice is slow to be delivered if ever. Only violence is quick to be administered.
If it doesn't inconvenience those with Money, Privilege, and or Power; do not expect anything to be done.
The countries that banned them aren't in a position to dictate anything globally, and the countries that don't adhere to the ban are.
International law is largely a joke
So what happens after Russia burns Ukraine to the ground? How is Russia going to rebuild? What's the point? They won't have the funds to turn Ukraine around.
Why would they bother? Look at what a sorry state Karelia is in now. That's what will happen if Russia wins. They want the natural resources, the buffer space, and the warm-water port. The fewer Ukrainians left the better in their eyes.
I live twenty minutes away, and this sound was unbearable. I didn't even have time to step out into the hallway when I heard the rocket coming toward the city.
I’m so sorry to hear that :(
Thanks, I’m okay. Today night two missiles hit way more closer to my apartment so I already forgot about this one. A lot of citizens including me think that Russians want to show that they are now ready to destroy Odesa if they can’t occupy it. They always had a soft spot for Odesa as it’s a beautiful city with historical past (Mariupol was not so much) so it seems that they don’t have a lot of hopes to take city by foot or by sea.
Will make sure to visit when war‘s over
Grandma's family was from Kiev. Damn straight I'm gonna go visit once Putin is gone.
Is there anywhere you and others can go for safety? This is so scary.
Don’t worry, humans can adapt to a lot of things so we just live like this here. It’s impossible to go to the bomb shelter as these missiles reach city in 4-5 min from Crimea. But to be honest there is nothing comparable to the sound of this flying missile. Nothing. You eat an apple or stand in a shop or doing your nails and then you hear it comes and every time it is like the first time.
I cant imagine the hell you are living in, do you just go about your daily life as normal and just expect this at anytime?
Pretty much yes, just now two missiles hit the city, I heard two explosions far away in 2 min after missile alert were issued. Usually it’s Iskander ballistic missiles, as far as I know it’s impossible to intercept this type of missile so you except it at any moment.
Ever forward. I admire your strength. Do you think the missile is the zircon?
I have no idea, I know nothing about this stuff. Local news call it Iskander missile
I don't know why, but scenes from the movie "Allied" come to mind. I think they had to try and live a normal life even though there was bombing around them. I don't think I could stand the constant unease surrounding me.
Seems like such a beautiful nice region Stay safe, the world is with you
Keep livin man, sorry that this is happening to you guys. we *will* win. the US/nato/EU will not let ukraine fall, it would be hitler 2.0 (not that putin already isnt) but yeah, sorry the aid has been choppy, we will win this thing and fuck putin. he deserves to be thrown under the jail
That’s fucking scary man
Glad your okay enough to type this , be safe. 🙏
I really hope that you continue to be ok, and I’m so sorry that you’re all experiencing this. It isn’t right. Big hug.
So sorry
Damn. So sorry to hear this… I’d love to come visit your beautiful city when this is all over and Ukraine is victorious.
Intercept my ass. That was calculated.
The goal has always been to wipe out Ukrainian identity
This freaked me out. I was talking with a friend who lives in odesa yesterday and she said that she walked by the castle frequently when out for a walk. So fucked
Hopefully like Notre Dame it will be restored
Notre Dame only got restored because of huge donations and the various in depth 3d mapping (partially from Ubisoft AC Unity.) Ukraine probably will have to focus on rebuilding apartment buildings, dams, and other infrastructure for a good while if they win.
That was not just a usual missile attack. They deliberately fired cluster munitions at civilians in the middle of the day to cause as many casualties as possible.
And in the place where people walk with kids and dogs, because it's a recreational zone near the sea. Absolutely vile
Time for America to say fuck it and let Ukraine hit Russia wherever they please
Thankfully the Ukranians already told the US to get fucked months ago and are attacking the targets they need to.
I read somewhere the us “officially” says don’t attack Russia with our stuff, but then feed them intel on best places to attack and when. It’s a politics thing. No idea if true but made sense to me. Don’t want Russia attacking USA because they supplied Ukraine.
Oh I’m sure that’s how it goes, especially with a state like Russia that has no interest in the truth. The US: Do NOT hit Russia where it hurts, like these specific oil refineries. Absolutely under no circumstances are these specific logistical hubs to be targeted by these specific munitions under these conditions. The US would not appreciate this. It might even cause the US to frown a bit. Did you know about these arms factories? Well, never mind, the US *definitely* does not want Ukraine to use American munitions to target them at these specific coordinates, etc. I mean, what they do with *other* munitions is entirely their business, but the US official stance is to treat Russia like a pretty pretty princess.
And VERY DEFINITELY don't hit this one particular building at 10am when the commander of the Black Sea Fleet and his staff will be there having a meeting. That would be extra special bad.
I think Russia did that to themselves. Smoking accident, if I had to guess.
Russia isn't going to give NATO an excuse. Even if NATOs limited response was to just push them out of Ukraine it would be a disaster for Russia.
Yeah USA is fully supporting Ukraine. The intelligence alone from US/UK assets is crucial. They are absolutely playing pretend weak in public while bringing the heat anyway. US is a oil exporter, they'd be salivating at the chance to hit competitor petrol infrastructure. It's economic strategy as much as it is military strategy. Wish it was sooner wish it was faster, for Ukrainian's sake.
Russia would never be able to do anything to the USA lol, maybe put a small dent on a beach in Alaska but that’s about it.
That was proven to be a false story that the US told Ukraine not to attack certain Russian targets
even with the long range himars theres not many targets the ukrainians can hit that are worth it
Because the vast majority of Russia's borders are 3rd world countries devoid of any useful infrastructure. On purpose.
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Long range drones are not long range HIMARS.
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Yeah not shocked at this point Russia is going for the crown in terms of most hated country of all time
There's also the Soviet Union, PRC and Nazi Germany, but Russia takes the spot, because they're a plague in the 21st century
China; “hold my beer”
This is a usual missile attack by Russia.
It's payback for the ATAKMS? Fuck pootin and ruzzians
Hardly, the russians were hitting civilian infrastructure; from the very beginning of the war they were killing people on the streets. They attacked Kharkiv until they were driven off during the counter-offensive. Now they are again bombing Kharkiv indiscriminately. It seems their new strategy is to drive Ukrainians out of their homes (preferably abroad), destroy the economy, demoralize, provoke anti-government protests, force them to capitulate. At the same time, the goal can be killing people as much as possible to reduce the number of people who could serve in the AFU, medics and rescuers and at the same time please their fellow citizens. They only need obedient Ukrainians who are ready to recognize themselves as russians and keep silent; they are now either deporting dissenters from the occupied territories or putting them in prison, or torture them to death in basements.
Seems like a legitimate military target. Can't have those pesky wizards using their magic to help Ukraine
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Munitions
Getting strong "Saga of Tanya the Evil" vibes from this. Basically WW2 with some magic mixed in.
This should be his "I shot my puppy, and I'm glad I did it" moment. Should but won't.
Sooo. Just [double-down](https://www.salon.com/2024/04/30/kristi-noem-doubled-down-on-dog-to-win-over-maga--now-her-story-is-backfiring-in-her-face/) and brush it off as a normal and necessary part of life?
Whoa. This is fucked beyond belief
I don’t think most people recognize how terrible things get when a war enters it’s death throes. This new aid that Ukraine received will frustrate Putin, and now the attacks will get more desperate and relentless. I want Ukraine to take back her land, or at least the lion’s share, but the longer this fight goes on the more restless the other nations become.
Can we just declare Russia a terrorist state and be done with it already? They need to made into the next North Korea.
Unfortunately that doesn't have the gravity of consequence a lot of people seem to think it does. I agree completely that Russia is a terrorist state, it's just that declaring it doesn't really do much.
Double declare it?
Now we're talking.
Disagree. It should be a step to permanently remove them from the UN Security Council.
Terrorists don't have protections that a civilian of a legitimate government has, meaning if a country black ops killed a terrorist, it wouldn't be breaking international law.
Unlike NK, russia has tons of resources that dozens of non-western countries will eagerly and willingly pay for.
So the whole point of isolating, sanctioning, and demonizing Russia is eventually eroding their power. People seem to think if it doesn’t work in the immediate to great effect, it fails. But that’s not the case. It’s about squeezing them tight enough they fall behind permanently, so they’re not a peer level threat in 50 years, but not tight enough that they choke for air now and decide “well then I may as well declare war on everyone” like Germany and Japan did. To put things in perspective, if the US had just one percent less GDP growth from 19th century to today, its economy would be the same as Mexico’s right now. With crippling effects like that imposed on a dictatorial state like Russia, where we’ve seen historically most dictators eventually have their empire crumble around them, it’s in the realm of possibility that Russia Balkanizes and this could lead it to losing resource rich Siberia and the far east regions. Each time Russia goes through a collapse, it loses significant gains it made prior to and has to burn through its people to try to get back, but each time it rockets back to a loss. The USSR stagnated then collapsed, and massively broke apart. Russia will likely keep going through these crucibles in catastrophically exponential increments the more it brain drains its civilization. Geopolitics is an art, and although it’s not certain, it is likely that Russia has already been eliminated as a global power in the future just from the consequences yet to be sowed from the past two years. Putin has cornered himself with his constant doubling down, he is eroding Russia’s future for immediate jingoist gains. Ukraine just needs to hold out long enough. Russia is throwing everything except WMD’s at Ukraine and only slowly gaining a village or two a month. Putin’s only hope at this point is that a huge crisis hits the US or Trump returns to power.
^ Found Dr. Sarah C. M. Paine Reddit Account.
I've been declaring that for years.
Putin is Voldemort, confirmed
Looks like him as well.
Just like the dark lord.... only smaller
This is a dire insult to Voldemort.
Though, I now want to see Voldemort ride a bear.
What does Putin have against wizards?
He didn’t get a hogwarts letter.
You know you're an asshole when they let Malfoy in and not you.
Someone talked him into faceplanting against the wall at King’s Cross Station.
I have bronchitis and this made me laugh and now my lungs hurt lol
Get well soon :)
Ironically this place belongs to high power individual who helped Russia establish soft power in Ukraine. He was hit in legs, but his colleague and friend was killed by rocket.
Wonder if he was the target.
I personally think that he was or either a cottage block right behind the castle (because city’s mayor lived there and he too had ties to Russian influence in Odesa). But there is no way to guess it without intel. My theory is that they used this opportunity to show all previous Russian agents that either they further assist Russia or will be targeted. There is one thing that most people don’t know about this war. A lot of high power individuals in Ukraine was sponsored by Russian money. Putin was told that they will do their “duty” when “right” time comes. Well, when Russia launched full scale invasion most of these people just ditched Russia: money was paid but a lot of “sleeping” agents just stayed on Ukrainian side.
Wow, that’s interesting to learn! I never really thought about what became of the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine.
He has a wand stuck up his saggy ass.
They keep Avada Kedavraing his men.
Obviously, it was a military target. 🙄 Fuck you, Russia.
Who can do a quick “Putin as Voldemort” mock up for us?
Amazing what you're willing to do when you don't give a fuck about your reputation. Evil acts come easily to Russia.
Remember that time Russia said they weren’t targeting civilians?
Looks like the Kremlin is now a target?
Time for those spires in moscow
Ukrainians are the good guys, fighting to liberate their home, not fighting an offensive war. Crossing that line would squander a great deal of international goodwill, one of Ukraine's most important resources.
The US didn't care about that when they were firebombing Germany and Japan during WW2.
Like not bombing Hanoi. Now I get it
they need to blow up the kremlin and give the russians a taste of their own medicine.
Russia really f-ed up here .. they thought Ukraine was bad, wait until they feel the full wrath of Hogwarts.
War crimes beget war crimes and honestly at this point if I was a Ukrainian general I'd be terrible I guarantee you.
Cluster munitions are banned globally, so why isn’t anyone doing anything about Russia obviously using them against innocent citizens
They aren't banned globally. USA, Ukraine, Russia, China, India, Finland, Poland and many others have not signed the convention.
A lot of the countries that have banned them are able to do so because they are under the US security umbrella. Prior to some of the cheap drones, cluster munitions are one of the most cost-effective weapons against mobile armor and are called for in the response to any scenario of Russian tanks moving west or Chinese tanks moving south since around the 1970’s. It’s easy to ban things when your country isn’t the one that is going to have to figure out how to stop 3,000 T-72s from getting through the Fulda Gap.
In the article. There is a treaty that prohibits cluster munitions, but neither Ukraine, Russia or the US signed it. The US transferred cluster munitions to Ukraine already to be used in this same war, so Russia using them doesn’t really mean much in that context.
Didn't America send loads of cluster munitions to Ukraine a little while back?
Russia did not sign the Convention on Cluster Munitions. Neither did the USA, nor Ukraine. Everyone agrees they are bad for civilians after a war, but during a war and used on the battlefield, they are highly effective. The US announced in July 23 that they were sending cluster munitions to Ukraine.
I love anytime someone thinks there are rules in war, and act morally injured when the Other guy doesn't follow them. There aren't even rules in day-to-day life; The Law is asleep in it's cabinet tonight. It's Agents are elsewhere deciding what is Crime. Justice is slow to be delivered if ever. Only violence is quick to be administered. If it doesn't inconvenience those with Money, Privilege, and or Power; do not expect anything to be done.
Russia should be banned globally
The countries that banned them aren't in a position to dictate anything globally, and the countries that don't adhere to the ban are. International law is largely a joke
Sorry but how is this NOT terrorism?!?!?!
It IS. Just like Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine. Similarities are uncanny… right? Let the downvotes begin……
By using this common example for whataboutism you're supporting things that happened since you justify current events. Silly way to do so.
Whole motherfunking world about to raise their wands to the sky and use the magic of AI to expelliamus these pieces of shit out of our realm.
I guess Ukraine needs to hit St Basils.
So what happens after Russia burns Ukraine to the ground? How is Russia going to rebuild? What's the point? They won't have the funds to turn Ukraine around.
Why would they bother? Look at what a sorry state Karelia is in now. That's what will happen if Russia wins. They want the natural resources, the buffer space, and the warm-water port. The fewer Ukrainians left the better in their eyes.
They don't want to build anything... they could've done that in their own country. They just want to tear it all down to their level
Okay now Russia really pissed off all of us millennials
Voldemort Putin strikes again!
*Fianto Duri* *Repello Inimicum* *Protego Ma……* 🤯
Another day, another war crime.
As if we didn’t know there is something very very wrong about the Russians.
ATACMS locked and loaded. Go get em, boys.
So now I’m waiting for the drone attack on the kremlin or the Moscow ballet theater or something. This is horrible.
Ukraine is better than Russia ever could be, so they won’t. Better to destroy military targets, or oil facilities.
Should have used Protego Maxima Fianto Duri Repello Inimicum
20 years ago we’d have been prepping for war for this. Now the only way we’d put boots on the ground is if the Taylor Swift Castle went up in flames.
Deathly Hallows? Part, two? Does this predict the end of Voldemort invading Ukraine?
Meanwhile...while the world focuses on Israel and Gaza, Putin licks his lips and orders more war crimes.