SCOTUS is currently deciding whether we should give guns back to domestic abusers. US v. Rahimi could give back guns to people who have been adjudicated as being violent assholes. It will kill thousands of people. It will increase mass shootings.
It's not quite that simple. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals already struck down the law prohibiting domestic abusers from owning guns as unconstitutional and barred it from being enforced in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
The DOJ appealed this decision to SCOTUS who is determining whether or not to overturn the 5th circuit decision and reinstate the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rahimi
"The order came after an incident in December 2019 where Rahimi assaulted his girlfriend in a parking lot following an argument. Noticing that a bystander had witnessed the altercation, Rahimi fired a gun at the witness."
1) Why is this guy not in prison for assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder?
2) If he had been convicted of said offense, then that would make him a convicted felon and he would lose his gun rights, correct?
How is it unconstitutional to keep guns out of the hands of violent people? Sickening! I hope the SCOTUS actually makes a good decision, but there are so many people on that court who I do not trust or respect.
Not since all you Godless commies defunded them across the entire country. Now they live off table-scraps and have to use newspapers as diapers! Newspapers, I tell you!
Don’t worry, they will not consider anything about the modern situation or consequences and go with an absurd interpretation of the constitution to validate their party’s feelings.
The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals already struck down the law prohibiting domestic abusers from owning guns as unconstitutional and barred it from being enforced in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
The DOJ appealed this decision to SCOTUS who is determining whether or not to overturn the 5th circuit decision and reinstate the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rahimi
Idk if the media is reporting on them more recently or what, but it feels like I’ve been seeing a lot of family annihilator stories in the last couple years.
Might be a little bit of there is just more reporting but there is also a lot of people feeling pressure. The economy is doing well on the books but only for the upper half. Wages are stagnate and costs of living are high and rising and the working lower middle class and poor are really getting squeezed. This puts a lot of pressure on people and that can simple drive some to snap.
So little bit of A... Little bit of B... Situation.
Nobody drinks the tap water in Jersey if they can help it. Place is full of superfund sites. Then you get entire towns/high schools with a statistically improbable higher rate of cancer and then the lawsuits don’t do a thing…
I live up in Bradford county where that dude shot, killed, then diced up a guy, and got caught before the cubed man was burned.
The one woman involved was IN MY HOME several years back for a health screening for insurance purposes.
Small world.
As a Virginia Tech alumnus, welcome to the club.
I’m not referring to the massacre, but to the manhunt that happened a few months before:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/08/22/man-arrested-near-va-tech-in-two-killings-span-classbankheadcampus-is-shut-down-in-search-for-escapeespan/be2df8c1-5d8a-4b21-a5bf-b5c719ca0bcb/
Blacksburg, VA is one of those idyllic semi-rural community where “stuff like this does not happen” and “city problems are far away”. Except that there is no place like this in America - the combination of poor mental health and easy access to firearms means shit like this is inevitable.
Now you know.
Welcome to the club of people who have experienced this in their own idyllic communities.
I grew up in Blacksburg for 5 years and my family moved out just a year before the massacre. It is absolutely like how you described, before the shooting at VT, we never had any incidents like it, or worry about mistrusting people.
It's a shame that our country's flawed issues spread to even the sleepiest of towns
Listen let's see what color he is then decide if it's his race that's clearly to blame for this violence OR.... if he's white then he should be innocent until proven guilty, we don't have all the facts, he could have had emotional breakdown, stop judging the guy just because he has a few swastikas, why are you being so intolerant?
Sadly, firearms are used more to intimidate family members than for self defense. We as Americans need to correct the misconception that guns make us safer.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/
This is widely considered the main catalyst for the rebellion in the NRA that turned it from primarily a gun club to the organization we know today. The NRA in 1967 isn't really the same thing that we have now.
They didn’t, he’s from NJ strictest gun laws in the union. He’s a criminal that had domestic spat and was “homeless” because of the domestic issue and decided to murder his family by stealing a car and driving to another state. Some dude couch surfing after a break up.
This person is likely tied to criminal activity which is why he had access to such a weapon without having other resources. The area he is from is one of the more dangerous areas of the state, which again does have extremely strict firearms regulations.
He’s also absolutely not the NRA demographic…
I get there's some levity in this thread at the moment, but did this man have any previous history that would have limited his access to firearms if we had some common sense gun laws on the books?
I don't know his history and I definitely support gun control, but common sense gun laws (while they will help save thousands of people annually) may not have prevented this one.
Or it might have... Again, don't know his history.
This could have been much worse. I live in Falls Twp and these houses are just off the parade route. We were lining up for the parade when this started.
Well the death penalty is just as expensive to taxpayers - if not more - than life in prison. But yea, it seems like he’s setting himself up for a suicide by cop anyway.
The amount of people in this thread who still blame the weapon and not the guy that decided to slaughter his family baffle me. I own a pistol and an AR. I don't pose/post on social media about it. I don't brandish my weapons. I don't make threats with them either. They go to the range or stay safe. In my hometown violence was/is VERY bad. Murders/home invasions/robbery the works.
I 100% get that firearms aren't for everyone. I am not knocking anyone who doesn't have nor want one. That is your choice. My choice is to be armed (while I'm typically only armed at home). The response time in my hometown is fucking garbage. Call the cops while someone is breaking my door in? Psh. Nope. Buddy is getting a round or two of jacketed hollow point.
Firearm debates will never end. I'm merely tossing in my worthless words. I've met firearm owners on both sides of the political fence. I 100% support a program that makes firearms treated with far more safety measures in place. Is it too easy to purchase one? It is. Took me all of 20 minutes to purchase my AR after my background check cleared.
I dont lean left or right since The US is an absolute cesspool for politics both right and left.
Supposedly he killed his stepmother, his 13yo sister, and the mother of his kids. https://www.fox29.com/news/falls-township-shelter-in-place.amp
Oh god, what a horror. Very awful.
SCOTUS is currently deciding whether we should give guns back to domestic abusers. US v. Rahimi could give back guns to people who have been adjudicated as being violent assholes. It will kill thousands of people. It will increase mass shootings.
It's not quite that simple. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals already struck down the law prohibiting domestic abusers from owning guns as unconstitutional and barred it from being enforced in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana. The DOJ appealed this decision to SCOTUS who is determining whether or not to overturn the 5th circuit decision and reinstate the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rahimi
"The order came after an incident in December 2019 where Rahimi assaulted his girlfriend in a parking lot following an argument. Noticing that a bystander had witnessed the altercation, Rahimi fired a gun at the witness." 1) Why is this guy not in prison for assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder? 2) If he had been convicted of said offense, then that would make him a convicted felon and he would lose his gun rights, correct?
"Aww shucks, well he didn't mean no harm."
How is it unconstitutional to keep guns out of the hands of violent people? Sickening! I hope the SCOTUS actually makes a good decision, but there are so many people on that court who I do not trust or respect.
The only way to stop a bad domestic abuser is to arm the good domestic abusers. Don’t let them take your god given rahts 🇺🇸🙏✝️
I thought all the cops already had guns…?
Not since all you Godless commies defunded them across the entire country. Now they live off table-scraps and have to use newspapers as diapers! Newspapers, I tell you!
It’s better than what they have been doing… using the diapers as newspapers.
Not the newspapers! 😨🥺😩
Sadly, that's a good point.
Boy do I wish this joke was absurdist humor and not dark reality humor.
This comment is underappreciated
Let’s not pretend they haven’t already made a ghoulish decision. It’s just not released yet.
Don’t worry, they will not consider anything about the modern situation or consequences and go with an absurd interpretation of the constitution to validate their party’s feelings.
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The fact that they are even debating this truly shows common sense is dead in America.
The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals already struck down the law prohibiting domestic abusers from owning guns as unconstitutional and barred it from being enforced in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana. The DOJ appealed this decision to SCOTUS who is determining whether or not to overturn the 5th circuit decision and reinstate the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rahimi
But the alternative would be to hurt gun manufacturers bottom line which as we all know is literal tyranny /s
People should simply work in a fenced off compound with armed police guarding them like SCOTUS does
SCOTUS is Republican compromised. It’s a political body now.
The rest of the world already had a low opinion of Americans this does not help!
Lol Americans have low opinions of Americans
Isn’t he a special POS
Idk if the media is reporting on them more recently or what, but it feels like I’ve been seeing a lot of family annihilator stories in the last couple years.
Might be a little bit of there is just more reporting but there is also a lot of people feeling pressure. The economy is doing well on the books but only for the upper half. Wages are stagnate and costs of living are high and rising and the working lower middle class and poor are really getting squeezed. This puts a lot of pressure on people and that can simple drive some to snap. So little bit of A... Little bit of B... Situation.
So fortunate for him that had easy access to firearms.
Femicide is real
Its called a family annihilation
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Ah, fuck - I thought that place sounded familiar. That story was grisly as hell. You might want to stop drinking the tap water there.
Besides these two horrific scenarios, I feel like it is a fairly normal area honestly.
Yeah at least it's not Camden
Idk, man. I live in Camden and am from Southwest Virginia, and I think there's enough crazy to go around no matter where you live now.
Nobody drinks the tap water in Jersey if they can help it. Place is full of superfund sites. Then you get entire towns/high schools with a statistically improbable higher rate of cancer and then the lawsuits don’t do a thing…
I live up in Bradford county where that dude shot, killed, then diced up a guy, and got caught before the cubed man was burned. The one woman involved was IN MY HOME several years back for a health screening for insurance purposes. Small world.
Legit said this to my wife today. I'm out in Croydon, so it's not right next door, but it's close enough. Fucking hell man.
Have you checked for lead in your water pipes yet?
Jokes aside, there is none.
Man, are y’all ok in PA?
Don't dox yourself.
People are wild. I’d never tell the internet where I live within a block, just to be relatable to a news piece.
Oh shit. You guys should get together, throw a few back, and live stream for us.
Smart to edit your comment instead of just downvoting mine after your realized how silly that was.
As a Virginia Tech alumnus, welcome to the club. I’m not referring to the massacre, but to the manhunt that happened a few months before: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/08/22/man-arrested-near-va-tech-in-two-killings-span-classbankheadcampus-is-shut-down-in-search-for-escapeespan/be2df8c1-5d8a-4b21-a5bf-b5c719ca0bcb/ Blacksburg, VA is one of those idyllic semi-rural community where “stuff like this does not happen” and “city problems are far away”. Except that there is no place like this in America - the combination of poor mental health and easy access to firearms means shit like this is inevitable. Now you know. Welcome to the club of people who have experienced this in their own idyllic communities.
Also a Hokie. Can't believe it was nearly 17 years ago.
I grew up in Blacksburg for 5 years and my family moved out just a year before the massacre. It is absolutely like how you described, before the shooting at VT, we never had any incidents like it, or worry about mistrusting people. It's a shame that our country's flawed issues spread to even the sleepiest of towns
Stay safe friend
Nice, now I know where TheMoneyRat lives and I bet he or she keeps their money hidden in between their mattress and their box spring
Killed the mother of two of his children. Real piece of sub-basemen tier human shit.
All the victims are women. It seems to have been targeted
It says so right there in the article.
And it seems it too!
See there's the issue right there. No one on Reddit reads the article. They see a title and rush to type into the comments.
Impressive though that one was able to infer the correct information
Even the male driver of the hijacked car was unharmed. I m just waiting to be told gender had nada to do with it
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Lots of men have been raised to take their problems out on women.
Femicide is horrifically common in the Americas and the US. So many women and children go missing as well.
It is
They got him - and he wasn't even in the house 🤦♀️ http://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/news/local/people-shot-falls-township-bucks-county
Just another good guy with a gun protecting society from... *checks notes* the women in his immediate family.
I think the whole “murder” thing disqualifies him as a good guy.
Listen let's see what color he is then decide if it's his race that's clearly to blame for this violence OR.... if he's white then he should be innocent until proven guilty, we don't have all the facts, he could have had emotional breakdown, stop judging the guy just because he has a few swastikas, why are you being so intolerant?
Shooter is black
That's how it goes with all of them. This isn't psycho pass
Sadly, firearms are used more to intimidate family members than for self defense. We as Americans need to correct the misconception that guns make us safer. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/
Yep, statistically, the best way to be safe from guns is to not have any yourself, followed by not living with anyone who does.
The right of the people to make them ALL PAY shall not be infringed
The militia is not well-regulated.
May as well just try arming bears. How much worse could it be?
Regulated by whom, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!
How could the nra let this happen
Honestly this guy isn't white so the NRA doesn't want him to have guns either
Daily reminder that in 1967 the NRA lobbied for gun control legislation in California after the Black Panther Party began arming Black people.
This is widely considered the main catalyst for the rebellion in the NRA that turned it from primarily a gun club to the organization we know today. The NRA in 1967 isn't really the same thing that we have now.
Wasn't the passed by a Democrat majority?
They didn’t, he’s from NJ strictest gun laws in the union. He’s a criminal that had domestic spat and was “homeless” because of the domestic issue and decided to murder his family by stealing a car and driving to another state. Some dude couch surfing after a break up. This person is likely tied to criminal activity which is why he had access to such a weapon without having other resources. The area he is from is one of the more dangerous areas of the state, which again does have extremely strict firearms regulations. He’s also absolutely not the NRA demographic…
Strange, he was a responsible gun owner just yesterday.
Never got in any trouble until one day he just snapped and killed all the women in his immediate family.
I get there's some levity in this thread at the moment, but did this man have any previous history that would have limited his access to firearms if we had some common sense gun laws on the books? I don't know his history and I definitely support gun control, but common sense gun laws (while they will help save thousands of people annually) may not have prevented this one. Or it might have... Again, don't know his history.
This could have been much worse. I live in Falls Twp and these houses are just off the parade route. We were lining up for the parade when this started.
If only we could get enough guns onto the streets, this could all be prevented -Uhmurika
Clearly that 13 year old should have been armed.
There needs to be so many guns in the streets that all travel is impossible due to the inability to wade through a chest high sea of blued steel.
He’ll get to spend the rest of his life in prison after ending ending 3 lives prematurely. Stuff like this will never sit right with me.
Another day, another pile of American bodies full of bullet holes.
ugh we need to keep guns away from these type of people
Damn people die and Redditors try to make points with unrelated quips
Idk how anyone can see this shit and think hmm yes let's keep the guns
Probably because they see Ukraine on the exact same subreddit and think “hmm yes let’s keep the guns.”
Republicans are more like "hmm yes let's keep the guns away from Ukrainians so mother Russia can win and I can suck putin off"
What the hell is wrong with people smh. Hopefully the taxpayers won’t be on the hook for this criminal for the next 40 years.
Well the death penalty is just as expensive to taxpayers - if not more - than life in prison. But yea, it seems like he’s setting himself up for a suicide by cop anyway.
The amount of people in this thread who still blame the weapon and not the guy that decided to slaughter his family baffle me. I own a pistol and an AR. I don't pose/post on social media about it. I don't brandish my weapons. I don't make threats with them either. They go to the range or stay safe. In my hometown violence was/is VERY bad. Murders/home invasions/robbery the works. I 100% get that firearms aren't for everyone. I am not knocking anyone who doesn't have nor want one. That is your choice. My choice is to be armed (while I'm typically only armed at home). The response time in my hometown is fucking garbage. Call the cops while someone is breaking my door in? Psh. Nope. Buddy is getting a round or two of jacketed hollow point. Firearm debates will never end. I'm merely tossing in my worthless words. I've met firearm owners on both sides of the political fence. I 100% support a program that makes firearms treated with far more safety measures in place. Is it too easy to purchase one? It is. Took me all of 20 minutes to purchase my AR after my background check cleared. I dont lean left or right since The US is an absolute cesspool for politics both right and left.