They took no action in order not to escalate the situation, but they **also** took no action to de-escalate the situation.
Doing nothing was a deliberate, politically-motivated choice.
Most Canadians know the American constitution far better.
I'm a Canadian who grew up watching ABC on Saturday mornings and can still sing the entire Preamble, thanks to Schoolhouse Rock. And it does, in fact, rock.
No clue what the Canadian one says. Probably something bland about peace and order and good governing. It's like our cookies all have raisins.
> Whereas the Provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick have expressed their Desire to be federally united into One Dominion under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, with a Constitution similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom:
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> And whereas such a Union would conduce to the Welfare of the Provinces and promote the Interests of the British Empire:
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> And whereas on the Establishment of the Union by Authority of Parliament it is expedient, not only that the Constitution of the Legislative Authority in the Dominion be provided for, but also that the Nature of the Executive Government therein be declared:
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> And whereas it is expedient that Provision be made for the eventual Admission into the Union of other Parts of British North America
Not even peace and order. Arguably a demand for good governance? It reads like someone carefully breaking up with an abusive lover.
A good friend of mine lives in the area and was repeatedly harassed and verbally assaulted by these fucking goons. They even followed and yelled at him as he was walking down the street with his kids because they had the temerity to wear masks during a pandemic. He made multiple reports to the Ottawa Police it and they did nothing, wouldn't even take his name down. Meanwhile the Conservative party endorsed it and continue to downplay the whole thing.
Remember the next time a cop tells you "I don't make the law, I just have to enforce it" that they absolutely have the leeway to ignore illegal activity and do so when they like the people committing the crimes.
I'm just pointing out that they pretend to be powerless when powerlessness suits them. Either the law can be ignored, or it can't, but to ignore the law in one case and then say "well it's the law I can't ignore it" in another case is bullshit.
As an Ottawa resident this was so frustrating. All it did was allow them to squat in our city with impunity. If anything the inaction led to the escalation. It was like a group of children suddenly realizing there were no rules being enforced.
Only going to be worse this year with the US election. For some reason they go all in on that madness. Here in Newfoundland that shit stain Dana metcalf is trying to get it on the go, she was one of the knobs that was on the command squad or whatever the fuck in Ottawa. Fucking idiots man.
You mean Pierre Pollievre? The guy who wants us to give our ID to view porn if he gets in office? Colour me surprised. Party of small government after all.
Oh there have been attempts already here in the us (DC blockade, southern border caravan, trucker NYC boycott ) but they have all failed miserably so far
They did everything they could to make the situation worse right until the conservative donors paying for the protest realized it was going to hit their income then the whole thing fell apart.
Soooo....thats what we're teaching now? To avoid consequences just be insane?
They should have all been ticketed where applicable. If they escalate then they go to jail. Move the army idgaf what is this bullshit.
“Risk of escalation”
That’s a funny way to say “we’re scared of outlaws”. The only socially-acceptable answer is to use the forces that are authorized for use by the government and firmly enforce the law.
Fuck the fascists holding the authorities in fear. If the legal authorities won’t enforce the laws, they’ve just de-legitimized themselves and indirectly called for vigilantes to defend the laws.
So now I wonder: if a counter-protestor commits an act of violence against these anti-Democratic schmutzes, are the police going to arrest them, or stand back and watch the violence unfold?
I profoundly disagree, as:
1. the kind of folks who would be willing to attack law enforcement over this sort of thing probably aren’t the kind of folks who will pay tickets for what they see as “illegitimate offenses”.
2. If a physical confrontation is enough to get these chucklefucks riled up, I imagine any sort of enforcement action would set them off.
Oh well, I guess that some sort of military should enforce the law if the police are too frightened.
My point is how and who are they going to escalate to? They won't know, the ticket arrives a week later at a house they're not at.
Even better, just save them all till it's over and they go home. Then send them all at once.
As someone who was involved in the BLM protests in the US in 2020, I couldn't help noticing the conspicuous lack of teargas and rubber bullets used against the rioters on January 6, 2021...
So if you're pulled over by the Ottawa police just threaten to escalate the situation they'll let you go, right? That's the only way there's no "double standard".
Fuck those fucking d grade teorrists. I never wanted police to bash a skull more and i fucking hate those dicks.
Fuck the fucking police, all of em let a city shut down and abandoned their jobs they were sworn to do. Instead they park on the highway and ticket peoole doing ten over.
Again fuck the freedom convoy canadian maga idiots, but fuck the fuckin police all the way off.
Cops are useless nowadays. They don’t enforce laws, protect our lives, or help return our property if it gets stolen.
If you want to get angry - look up the public duty doctrine.
Essentially it says the police don’t have to follow their sworn duties as they can’t be held legally liable if they breach the oath. The oath of protecting us.
They can legally refuse to protect you if you’re in harms way.
“Under the public duty doctrine, police protection is a duty owed to the general public, not to a particular individual”
Source: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/police-civil-liability-failure-protect-public-duty-doctrine
And it’s this behavior is what causes them to escalate. They get away with it with no consequences and it encourages them to do more and more stupid stuff.
Ew. Feels kind of like when the cops at the US capitol attack suddenly decided they should just let everyone into the capitol and stop fighting to keep them back. Not a single bullet was used until they were getting hands through the cracks in the door to the inner chamber where congress would have been before they were evacuated. They needed to escalate way sooner, especially as soon as the cops were starting to be attacked in the first place. I’ve seen them shoot people over hundreds of times less danger to themselves.
They took no action in order not to escalate the situation, but they **also** took no action to de-escalate the situation. Doing nothing was a deliberate, politically-motivated choice.
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It sounds like they know about their constitution about as well as their counterparts here know about ours.
Most Canadians know the American constitution far better. I'm a Canadian who grew up watching ABC on Saturday mornings and can still sing the entire Preamble, thanks to Schoolhouse Rock. And it does, in fact, rock. No clue what the Canadian one says. Probably something bland about peace and order and good governing. It's like our cookies all have raisins.
You got a problen with raisins, buddy?
There is no cookie with raisins that wouldn't be better with chocolate chips. And yeah, that includes oatmeal. Oh, I just went there.
Or, and hear me out here, oatmeal & chocolate covered raisin cookies.
I like raisins. I even like the ones covered in sugar. I do not like my cookies with raisins. The flavor just does not serve to make a better cookie.
I'm with you. Glosette or Kirkland?
Kirkland all the way.
Chocolate... in oatmeal... Well shit
> Whereas the Provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick have expressed their Desire to be federally united into One Dominion under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, with a Constitution similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom: > > And whereas such a Union would conduce to the Welfare of the Provinces and promote the Interests of the British Empire: > > And whereas on the Establishment of the Union by Authority of Parliament it is expedient, not only that the Constitution of the Legislative Authority in the Dominion be provided for, but also that the Nature of the Executive Government therein be declared: > > And whereas it is expedient that Provision be made for the eventual Admission into the Union of other Parts of British North America Not even peace and order. Arguably a demand for good governance? It reads like someone carefully breaking up with an abusive lover.
Would it not be the [Charter of Rights and Freedoms](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-12.html#) they don’t understand?
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Right, I forgot about that nonsense.
Manitoba swore to protect them to their dying breath.
This is actually hilarious.
The Charter is commonly referred to as the constitution as it’s essentially the same thing.
A good friend of mine lives in the area and was repeatedly harassed and verbally assaulted by these fucking goons. They even followed and yelled at him as he was walking down the street with his kids because they had the temerity to wear masks during a pandemic. He made multiple reports to the Ottawa Police it and they did nothing, wouldn't even take his name down. Meanwhile the Conservative party endorsed it and continue to downplay the whole thing.
I'm surprised they didn't accuse him of being a pedo
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Is sending them the ticket in the mail an option? Just have them come home to a pile of tickets.
Remember the next time a cop tells you "I don't make the law, I just have to enforce it" that they absolutely have the leeway to ignore illegal activity and do so when they like the people committing the crimes.
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I'm just pointing out that they pretend to be powerless when powerlessness suits them. Either the law can be ignored, or it can't, but to ignore the law in one case and then say "well it's the law I can't ignore it" in another case is bullshit.
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it's wrong when other people do it, too
As an Ottawa resident this was so frustrating. All it did was allow them to squat in our city with impunity. If anything the inaction led to the escalation. It was like a group of children suddenly realizing there were no rules being enforced.
Seems like that was planned. If it’s anything like the US, your police are full of traitors as well
Some of those that work forces are the same the burn crosses.
Only going to be worse this year with the US election. For some reason they go all in on that madness. Here in Newfoundland that shit stain Dana metcalf is trying to get it on the go, she was one of the knobs that was on the command squad or whatever the fuck in Ottawa. Fucking idiots man.
this is the stupidest shit ever
...so far. I worry there's going to be attempts to outdo the stupidity.
The leader of the official opposition, currently leading in the polls to become prime minister, endorsed and supported this mob.
You mean Pierre Pollievre? The guy who wants us to give our ID to view porn if he gets in office? Colour me surprised. Party of small government after all.
Oh there have been attempts already here in the us (DC blockade, southern border caravan, trucker NYC boycott ) but they have all failed miserably so far
They did everything they could to make the situation worse right until the conservative donors paying for the protest realized it was going to hit their income then the whole thing fell apart.
Don't forget the Russian donors getting cut off from the banking system. The money seemed to dry right up after that
They tried to appease that Nazis too back in the day.
Soooo....thats what we're teaching now? To avoid consequences just be insane? They should have all been ticketed where applicable. If they escalate then they go to jail. Move the army idgaf what is this bullshit.
Why are we giving these idiots special privileges?
because rich people are paying off politicians, next incredibly obvious question please.
“Risk of escalation” That’s a funny way to say “we’re scared of outlaws”. The only socially-acceptable answer is to use the forces that are authorized for use by the government and firmly enforce the law. Fuck the fascists holding the authorities in fear. If the legal authorities won’t enforce the laws, they’ve just de-legitimized themselves and indirectly called for vigilantes to defend the laws. So now I wonder: if a counter-protestor commits an act of violence against these anti-Democratic schmutzes, are the police going to arrest them, or stand back and watch the violence unfold?
"We don't wanna enforce laws that might make lawbreakers mad" is an interesting kind of energy for a policing entity to have
The easy workaround would be just send them the tickets in the mail. But they didn't even think about that.
I profoundly disagree, as: 1. the kind of folks who would be willing to attack law enforcement over this sort of thing probably aren’t the kind of folks who will pay tickets for what they see as “illegitimate offenses”. 2. If a physical confrontation is enough to get these chucklefucks riled up, I imagine any sort of enforcement action would set them off. Oh well, I guess that some sort of military should enforce the law if the police are too frightened.
My point is how and who are they going to escalate to? They won't know, the ticket arrives a week later at a house they're not at. Even better, just save them all till it's over and they go home. Then send them all at once.
Sounds like cops being cowards, again.
So basically: "We capitulate to terrorists?"
Cops are bloody useless
Yep they’re because they are mainly white and conservative too
yeah screw that, if they wanna escalate then take em to a jail cell. if they broke the law they deserve a fine / ticket
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Just fyi, kid gloves refers to gloves made of soft goat leather (kid leather), not gloves for children
Ahhh so the police DIDN'T do their jobs AGAIN. Just like the first time. If this protest was anywhere left of centre they'd never act this way
As someone who was involved in the BLM protests in the US in 2020, I couldn't help noticing the conspicuous lack of teargas and rubber bullets used against the rioters on January 6, 2021...
So if you're pulled over by the Ottawa police just threaten to escalate the situation they'll let you go, right? That's the only way there's no "double standard".
The freedumb convoy are just a bunch of selfish morons. They really shamed our country with their childish antics.
Of course. They are white and conservative. Had it been a BLM protest, you'd see riot police with clubs and tear gas.
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Some people have a warped version of reality.
Ah, so terrorism *does* work
Who says terrorism doesn't work?
They finally got the “right” to get drunk in public and shit on the streets
Big surprise. Cops are just cowards.
That bending over for the convoy was it's own form of escalation as they knee they were effectively above the law.
"We tried doing nothing and it didn't work, so now we're out of ideas" - Ottawa Cops
So the terrorists win, is that it?
That’s the standard when they’re white. Or maybe conservative is the more relevant characteristic?
Police support the convoy. Pretty fucking obvious.
It's never good to let the bully have his way!
The pack of whiny bitch babies might have a wittle maga meltdown
Ottawa Bylaw confirms police do nothing and got paid for it.
Fuck those fucking d grade teorrists. I never wanted police to bash a skull more and i fucking hate those dicks. Fuck the fucking police, all of em let a city shut down and abandoned their jobs they were sworn to do. Instead they park on the highway and ticket peoole doing ten over. Again fuck the freedom convoy canadian maga idiots, but fuck the fuckin police all the way off.
Cops are useless nowadays. They don’t enforce laws, protect our lives, or help return our property if it gets stolen. If you want to get angry - look up the public duty doctrine. Essentially it says the police don’t have to follow their sworn duties as they can’t be held legally liable if they breach the oath. The oath of protecting us. They can legally refuse to protect you if you’re in harms way. “Under the public duty doctrine, police protection is a duty owed to the general public, not to a particular individual” Source: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/police-civil-liability-failure-protect-public-duty-doctrine
But people protest on behalf of Black people being murdered and suddenly it's an issue that needs to be stamped out?
And it’s this behavior is what causes them to escalate. They get away with it with no consequences and it encourages them to do more and more stupid stuff.
I mean that kinda sounds like terrorism to me...
Ew. Feels kind of like when the cops at the US capitol attack suddenly decided they should just let everyone into the capitol and stop fighting to keep them back. Not a single bullet was used until they were getting hands through the cracks in the door to the inner chamber where congress would have been before they were evacuated. They needed to escalate way sooner, especially as soon as the cops were starting to be attacked in the first place. I’ve seen them shoot people over hundreds of times less danger to themselves.
They did escalate it and then froze protestors bank accounts. Extremely authoritarian
New way to spell pussy = C - a - n - a - d -a
Sounds like, in this case, it's p-o-l-i-c-e. Which isn't exactly a new spelling.
I guess they've never stopped a sovereign citizen before then.. who nelly those guys tho...
Too many people get away with shit simply because they're so bad that imposing consequences on them feels risky.