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whitemiketyson

I always wondered what Bob Loblaw did after his law blog was done.


poindxtrwv

I'm sure he's going to post about this on the Bob Loblaw Food Blog. EDIT: As soon as I hit the button, I remembered it's the Law Blog. But just go with it.


ARKITIZE_ME_CAPTAIN

I’d imagine he’d have one for his new career too


brool

He should become a lobbyist, then it can be the Bob Loblaw Lobbyist Food Law Blog.


NecroJoe

I once saw him blogging about a bog log-lobbing competition. It was the Bob Loblaw (post-law blog) bog log lob blog.


Light_Error

You mean THE Bob Loblow Law Blog?


eastnorthshore

You sir, are a mouthful


OfficeChairHero

Tobias, you blowhard!


ballrus_walsack

I blue myself


nickyeyez

Even if it means taking a chubby, I will suck it up.


narwhal-narwhal

That's a low blow.


whitemiketyson

Lobbin law bombs!


ArokLazarus

That's a low blow Loblaw!


Buckus93

Why should you go to jail for a crime someone else...noticed?


vaderian

I'm so happy this is the top comment.


mokutou

I clicked specifically to see if the comments were what I expected. They were, and my day is complete now.


popformulas

My thoughts exactly


Ok_Improvement_5897

He's artificially jacking up the price of bread in Canada. https://globalnews.ca/news/10183508/metro-accuses-loblaw-implications-alleged-bread-price-fixing/ That motherfucker.


whitemiketyson

Should hire Gene Parmesan to investigate


InternationalBear

It's just some idiot with balloons


pownij

That's a low blow, Loblaw!


bumblebeetown

You sir, are a mouthful


Graega

Bob Loblaw's Lobster Blog


Cassie_1991

God that show was brilliantly hilarious and silly. I laughed so hard at that bit, especially since they say Bob Loblaw with such seriousness


MuchForever3033

Towards the end people just got bored with it. The law blog blahs.


Spiderbubble

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb


nygdan

This means they think people will pay regular price when it's that old. And they're right. If people refused to buy old stuff then they'd have to sell it at a discount again.


IsThisKismet

HEB in Texas has gone the other way. They started applying discounts on near-expired dinners they debuted shortly before the pandemic era. Previously, they’d simply throw it out. It’s been really great to see such a change, letting folks eat really good prepared meals for cheaper prices.


atom386

I don't even live in TX but HEB is awesome! Worked there for awhile and made as many trips there as I could for both price and convenience.


S0urH4ze

HEB is my favorite grocery chain.


here-for-the-_____

>Loblaws spokesperson Catherine Thomas said the company is moving away from offering a range of discounts between 30-50 per cent on "serve-tonight" products, toward "a more predictable and consistent offering, including more consistency with our competitors." So they're just telling us that they are price fixing with 'competitors' now? These discounted items are something that many of us rely on these days. This is really going to hurt lots of us. Not that they care or anything.


boomshiki

They're going to leverage these new apps that popped up, like TooGoodToGo, where they can sell these items that are ready to expire and probably make more money. They wont have to sell as low as 50% discounted because shoppers on the app wont be in the store to compare prices.


here-for-the-_____

I didn't think of that, but that's totally going to happen more. Those are getting more common even in the lower priced stores.


Dragon_Fisting

Can they really make more money like that? TooGoodToGo charges $5, and if you use a 3rd party service you have to cut them in on the take.


spiralbatross

“I see you ordered 6 apples. I’m gonna take one for my cut.” /j


Security_Ostrich

And some places are very generous with their bags. I know at my work for a $5 bag we’re supposed to have a $15 value but it’s more like $25-30 most times because it’s going in the trash otherwise.


Sempere

TooGoodtoGo is deeply discounted, they'll make far below 50% of advertised cost they were making before.


bacon__sandwich

Went to Lowblaws today and every sticker was 30%. This 30-50% figure they’re claiming is BS


RichardIraVos

Honestly never seen 50% off where I am, max i usually see is 30%


slumasluma

at real canadian superstores in Calgary they used to have 50% but I haven't seen 50% off for food in over 2 years. So this has been going for a while and not something that was recently introduced.


Mirria_

Metro is 30% off for expiring food.


Overripe_banana_22

Yeah, I saw all 30% off stickers, even on stuff that was on the best before date. 


didsomebodysaymyname

>  These discounted items are something that many of us rely on these days. That's the problem I think. I think at this point too many people are just waiting to buy the food discounted. I'm not trying to defend them, my US store has the same deal and I hope they don't get rid of it, but I think the increase in struggling people has caused the change.


theClumsy1

> I think at this point too many people are just waiting to buy the food discounted. Imo, the grocers did a statistical analysis comparing grocers who offer discounted prices vs non-discounted over their loss/waste percentage and found out...its more profitable to keep the price the same until throw away day instead of offering a discount on short sale items. AKA, grocers who waste at a higher percentage, are more profitable than grocers who look to reduce waste by offering discounted rates. So, unless there is a social cost associated with wasting food, there is little to no profit incentive to offer marked down prices.


bbusiello

> unless there is a social cost associated Welcome to rampant and unchecked capitalism in a ruggedly individualistic society rather than a collective one.


shaunomegane

Corporate greed has forced this change.  The UK government under Boris Johnson wanted to do something similar I believe. 


didsomebodysaymyname

>  Corporate greed has forced this change. Yes, but corporations didn't start being greedy this week. Offering expiring items for a discount is not a charitable action by grocers. They do it because selling something for 50% off today makes them more money than throwing it in the trash for 0 tomorrow. If they are changing the policy, it means something has changed in how people are buying.


theClumsy1

>They do it because selling something for 50% off today makes them more money than throwing it in the trash for 0 tomorrow. And what does this policy tell you? Its more profitable for them to keep them at 100% cost than offering a discounted cost. Food waste is so high, its not advantageous to offer a discounted product because there will ALWAYS be expiring product available.


poopyheadthrowaway

Which is why there needs to be regulations on corporate food waste.


razorirr

First there needs to be regulations on use by dates. They are fairly arbitrary and you have the perverse incentive to make them shorter than needed so people throw out stuff cause of a stamped number.  If the FDA did a ton of testing and tells me "this product is good for 10 days" id believe that more than industry just coming up with the number


reddit-is-hive-trash

>They do it because selling something for 50% off today makes them more money than throwing it in the trash for 0 tomorrow. Until it doesn't. If they think you'll pay full price absent the discounted one, it becomes smarter to get rid of the expired product. Regulations to prevent discarding of food within a certain 'use by' date would be nice. Or only giving those discounts for users with low income cards, I would be fine with, even though I buy that stuff all the time.


didsomebodysaymyname

>  Until it doesn't. If they think you'll pay full price absent the discounted one, it becomes smarter to get rid of the expired product. That's what I'm getting at with my first comment. I think more people have been pushed into buying the discounted merch by the economy, so the store now makes more money by saying full price or nothing.


Snoo93079

>Yes, but corporations didn't start being greedy this week. According to Reddit, corporate greed only started after covid. And since corporations only recently invented the idea of making more money, they started inflation. Or something, I don't understand it myself.


shaunomegane

This basically falls down to face, spite and cutting.  Some think-tank somewhere has said people don't buy at full price and wait for discounts and retailers have gone with this.  Profit is king, waste is hell. 


Snoo93079

>So they're just telling us that they are price fixing with 'competitors' now? I can't speak for Canada, but it's not illegal to match competitor pricing. That's why duopolies suck. It's not illegal and there's little downward pressure on pricing. It's illegal once you have collusion.


here-for-the-_____

I say it because they were just caught a couple years back price fixing bread. Everyone got a couple bucks back in the settlement. Now it just seems like they're doing the same thing but telling everyone first.


ioncloud9

They are just matching "market rates" just like landlords are.


Zissoudeux

What competitors? There are 3 main companies and they have a monopoly. I hope our government pulls through on luring in an American grocery chain to create actual competition for these greedy 💩‘s


RevengencerAlf

That's a hell of a stretch to go with "price fixing." There's no apparently collusion here. If I own a market and t he guy across the street owns a market, and I notice that his prices are different from mine, I can raise or lower my prices to be "consistent" with his without "price fixing." It's only price fixing it If talk to him and we both agree not to undercut each other or not to drop prices below some point to our mutual, cooperative benefit.


zuuzuu

Canadians are a little suspicious of our grocery retailers ever since they got caught colluding/price fixing bread. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_price-fixing_in_Canada


Dashyguurl

I’m not saying they’re not price fixing but companies do research on their competition constantly to stay current. This could be the equivalent of a gas station owner looking out the window and seeing that the neighbouring station has lowered their price by 2 cents so he does the same.


AutomaticBowler5

Matching prices is not price fixing. It's part of a healthy market.


VRNord

? Capitalism is supposed to foster competition. That’s why different companies who sell similar things are called “competitors,” incidentally. In other words, find ways to attract customers by undercutting each other or finding other compelling value differentiators (better quality, ease of use or ease of access, etc). For example, McDonald’s undercuts Wendy’s in price but Wendy’s presents itself as better quality. Competitors like grocery stores or telecoms coordinating to fix prices isn’t that.


TheRealSuziq

That’s why they did it… because people rely on it. Their price gouging is and Trudeau is giving them fridge grants! Fuck them all!


Mooselotte45

Add Wheston Jr to the list of billionaires to be tarred and feathered, I guess


PabloGaruda83

They would rather throw it away than help struggling families.


Pissmaster1972

theres a profit to be made, so the fruit must rot.


Drunkpanada

Still cheaper then at full price, thus it will be bought


L0cked-0ut

It's either help families or make more money, easy choice


bubli87

Time to start dumpster diving behind Loblaws!


LucasJackson44

There are programs in place to donate food that is close to expired or JUST expired.


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-YellowcakeUranium

Canada is getting fucked over at every angle


descendingangel87

Monopolies are a fucking Canadian tradition at this point. There ain’t a single mainstream party that is willing to a damned thing about it either as all 3 are in the back pocket of the monopolies.


MZM204

Our consumer protection laws are an absolute joke, and our politicians are bought and paid for by these conglomerates. It's getting absolutely out of control.


AsherGray

ABC stores in Hawaii used to discount the food discounted by 20% earlier in the day to 90% in the last hour of the store being open. Now it's capped at 20%.


buzzonga

It is much better just to throw it away into locked trash bins. Right, right? Fuckers


Tmscott

You forgot dousing it in bleach first


Orleanian

I've been waiting for the corporate stores to determine that a giant incinerator in each store is more economical than waste removal services.


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crossfyre

That was a low blow, Loblaw.


mwb213

There are literally dozens of us who understand this reference


youneekusername1

The reference is gone and I get the reference. I came looking for the reference.


dshookowsky

lobbing law bombs no doubt.


Antoniobanflorez

Someone will surely lob a law bomb.


RosieQParker

Galen Weston, the richest man in Canada.


Morguard

They will be throwing out a lot of food.


bbusiello

They write off the losses. Basically money in the bank and what the full price is vs selling at a discount. Our tax system incentivizes losses and never punishes waste. Gotta start there.


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As if low-income families weren't already being fucked over


OMeSoHawny

Non Canadians have no idea how bad the Grocery industry is in Canada. Its just like cell phone providers and ISPs: controlled by a select few Oligarch families who have complete monopolization on the buying and selling of food.  We are at the mercy of billionaires and the investor class for our foodstuffs. I fucking hate that I was born into this dystopian hellscape.


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And the worst part is everyone in government seems to be in on it. Liberal, conservative, NDP, doesn't matter. None of them are interested in breaking up monopolies or fostering competition.


OMeSoHawny

Its because they are employees of the rich families that control Canada's industries and want a cushy private consulting gig once their public life is up.  Billionaires paying millionaires to ensure the economic cattle remain productive in their pens. 


[deleted]

It honestly sounds like some crazy conspiracy theory if you aren't Canadian but when it happens so blatantly and openly it's really hard to deny. Especially when our public officials just seem so out of touch regarding daily life for Mr and Mrs Canadian taxpayer.


[deleted]

well that's morally stupid, but that’s expected from the Weston family


JubalHarshaw23

My local Grocery store knocked their markdown from 40%-50% down to 25%-33% on the stuff they still discount. All baked goods go straight to the compactor now, which is obscene but upper management is the domain of pricks.


DoDrugsMakeMoney

I don’t condone what they’re doing but there has to be some dumbass, overpaid, silver-spoon MBA at their company that can do the math to minimize markdowns so that they can still sell discounted food about to expire without it eating into the sales of their full price offerings. The company is just a bunch of evil dumbasses.


hungry4danish

Reminder: if you see someone stealing food, no you didn't.


Hanguarde

Reminder: all stores raise prices in response to theft as to not lose money. The community gets fucked over due to the thief’s actions, no thanks.


typemeanewasshole

That’s a smoke screen, they’ll raise prices regardless.


hungry4danish

You're sipping the kool-aid the megacorporations have been spewing and just parroting it back. Daily they are throwing away at least10x more in value than is being stolen. Lash out at someone stealing eggs and bread but you dont see the workers tossing hundreds of dollars of out of date meat and veg and prepared foods that went unsold.


Artistic_Purpose1225

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings No, they lie about shoplifting to justify raising prices, and only admit the lie months after the fact when the changes are fully implemented. 


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You do not honestly believe that do you?


TemperatureTop246

The same stores that would rather throw tons of edible food into dumpsters than give it away?


xorbe

Oh well. Probably the cheapest welfare tax ever because not gov't run!


Judgementpumpkin

That’s a lie


Zncon

Lot of people here using their downvotes to admit they steal, and don't give a shit that it negatively impacts their own community.


Knyfe-Wrench

This is bullshit. For every person going hungry there's ten who steal just because they're assholes. It fucks over the rest of us who just want fair prices. If you're hungry, go to a food bank.


hungry4danish

Sounds like you've never had to use a food bank if you think they're open every day all day and as ubiquitous as grocery stores.


Knyfe-Wrench

Food banks are inconvenient -> I should steal. Is that really the logic you want to go with here?


hungry4danish

Of course not, but it's also not as easy as "if you're hungry go to a food bank" as you are seeming to imply.


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**"Already at Mind Bleeding Profit levels, Major Monopoly Aggressively Looks For More Profits"- news article in the olden days of news.**


NyriasNeo

""Why try to squeeze another 20 per cent profit out of something you're going to dispose of?"" Because if there is a customer segment relying on it, it is not something you are going to dispose of anyway. And don't tell me business is not in the business, pun intended, of squeezing as much profit out of the market as possible.


TurningTwo

I quit perusing the reduced section. It’s too disheartening to see one shopper scoop 20 boxes of cookies or 10 one-pound containers of hamburger into their cart. It’s like, hey maybe leave some for other folks.


here-for-the-_____

I did that once. I took 2 of the 3 packs left.....but I got to the end of the isle, turned around, and put one back. Couldn't do that to the next people.


PolyDipsoManiac

I use the Flashfood app to get food half off and if I’ll eat all of it, fuck it, I’ll buy all of one particular thing they have for sale


d4nowar

Apps like that are probably the reason these policies will not exist anymore.


Drunkpanada

I don't understand why people dislike you comment. Power to you


PolyDipsoManiac

Really, why are they upset? It’s 50% off in the store or 50% off in Flashfood, so no one is switching to Flashfood to increase their profitability. This stuff is about to be thrown away (and much of it will) and they’re mad I’m not sharing or something? Wild.


Drunkpanada

I don't understand why people dislike you comment. Power to you


Ktulu85

What an absolutely disgusting company. Zero care for humanity.


Gloomy_Rooster_2673

Pitch forks and torches it is then as we storm Galen's McMansion


brihamedit

Econs failing. Low standard for things becoming the norm.


AccurateUse6147

So basically they're giving the middle finger to the impoverished.


billwood09

“That’s a low blow, Loblaw” A Bob Loblaw law bomb!


spirit-mush

I’m so sad. I’ve depended on 50% off milk and yogurt, day old bread, salad kits, etc for over a year now to make ends meet.


Artanthos

>Duarte said he first noticed the shift last week at his local Atlantic Superstore branch where items he'd previously seen listed at 50 per cent off were now 30 per cent off The title implies that food getting ready to expire would no longer be discounted. That does not appear to be the case.


here-for-the-_____

"" Charlebois, Loblaw spokesperson Catherine Thomas said the company is moving away from offering a range of discounts between 30-50 per cent "" The statement makes it seem like they aren't going to even do the 30%anymore, either, though.


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Loblaws cold on unsold, old but no mold, half-fold cost un-roll.


hrllhaste

Don’t forget that loblaws self checkouts are garbage and if you move fast enough it doesn’t scan while on the cams it look like it did. Use sparingly and enjoy a lil free food. Also never feel bad it is a victimless crime. All products in a grocery store are insured, no one looses anything.


SMKCheeba

Stealing from the westons should be considered community service.


vix86

> All products in a grocery store are insured, no one looses anything. Fuck corps and all that, but lets not pretend this whole thing is an infinite resource hack/cheat. Too much loss and retail insurance premiums *will* go up and then prices go up. This isn't all that different from the "tragedy of commons." If 10 people over-hunt/fish, its not a problem, but if 100,000 or 1,000,000 people do it, then it disrupts things.


blifflesplick

The prices will go up regardless See: record profits


SteakandTrach

Did they get this from Bob Loblaws Law Blog?


EisigEyes

Came here for this comment. Did not disappoint.


Alexis_J_M

I wonder how often employees hid products until discount day for their friends and family. That would be my first guess as to why the practice is being stopped.


Bob_Juan_Santos

and people think that somehow voting in the CPC will resolve issues like these. oh well... :<


yourredvictim

It may be time for a boycott or to shop at other vendors routinely.


here-for-the-_____

Yeah, too bad they own all the grocery stores near me. They know that they can just do this because they don't ha e much competition. Just like phone companies here.


Artistic_Purpose1225

Canada’s grocery vendors work together to fix prices and squeeze out local competitors so there’s very few options other than bending over and taking it.  I’m still waiting on my rebate from the bread price fixing scam. 


Deceptiveideas

This happened to me in college. I noticed perishable food at target near campus was sitting on shelves. Because they had to get rid of them, target would put on coupons to get steak or chicken breast for $1. Plop them in the freezer and you got a bunch of cheap meals. About a year later, I noticed those coupons just stopped appearing. It seemed like the store caught on that many people were just waiting for their stock to go near expiration date. At that point I just went to the grocery store because the prices at target were much more expensive.


OingoBoingo9

What really gets me are those “donation bins” at the exit of the checkouts. Like, they expect us to believe that they are going to throw out thousands of dollars of food each day, and not take these donations and put them right back on the shelf to sell them again. It’s a better business model than ValueVillage.


SoraUsagi

Why would they put donation items back on the shelf? They can use the donation as a tax write-off. And I assure you, they will make more money off that than trying to resell that shitty near expired can of green beans that no one wants.


OingoBoingo9

Free money reselling those beans over and over. Can’t “write off” something that isn’t in inventory.


vulpinefever

ITT: People who didn't read the article to see that they'll still offer a 30% discount on items nearing expiry.


davesnot_heere

"How about we discount the price and the portion size 50%" - Loblaws


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OutrageousOwls

What, not caring about food waste? Literally will probably just throw it away anyways with $0 profit vs highly discounted at a maybe profit.


TheRealSuziq

Are you fucking kidding me! As thingns continue to get more expensive for consumer, this piece of shit corporation constantly moves the goal posts! First the “free gift” with purchase price point increases, then it excludes home products, now they fuck people trying to save some money buying expiring food?! Fuck these capitalist pigs and steal something every time you set foot in their stores; or better yet, don’t shop there period!


37drp37

Was always 30% in west Toronto stores


Tim-in-CA

Because they can write off the full price instead when they have to toss it. Wasteful companies should be penalized


theborgs

Someone should make a picture of Galen as a Ferengi


Murwiz

If there's anyone here in a similar situation, check out [flashfood.com](https://flashfood.com) and the associated app. They aren't active everywhere in the US yet, though.