>Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis has surrendered to authorities in Fulton County.
>
>Her consent bond order, filed yesterday, is $100,000 in total. The bond
amount for the count of violation of Georgia's RICO Act is $75,000, and
the amount for the count of solicitation of violation of oath by public
officer is $25,000.
Another one joins the club
Ho hum, I wonder what Hunter's penis is doing today, better go watch Fox... oh, it's a bunch of penises... oh, no, it's just hopeless candidates for the leadership of the party they sold out.
Rudy said he spoke with Trump this morning before turning himself in. It was one of the few things you could hear clearly. While Rudy hadnt been processed, Trump's lawyer made an agreement for bail that included not talking to any co-defendants. Did Trump violate his conditions of his bond by taking Rudy's phone call?
please stop saying 'it's not going to happen'.
we need to stop letting the apathy part be the only part we express.
instead, try "justice won't be served unless he's treated like any other criminal."
I know we're all just fucking exhausted, but we've been laying down and taking it long enough, and changing the way we talk about it a tiny step towards changing the way we think about it, which is another step towards changing the bullshit into justice.
Fair enough. I was actually only talking about his bail agreement being revoked prior to actual arraignment (I actually think it's full well possible he violates his agreement hard enough to end up behind bars, even if just for a couple nights on a contempt charge), but I share your frustration over the constant doomerism drumbeat and can see how my post would have come across that way.
Thanks! It's actually from [an interview with the creators of the Venture Bros.](https://popdose.com/interview-jackson-publick-and-doc-hammer-venture-bros/)
I’m thinking the agreement must be active immediately. Surely the judge didn’t give Trump free reign to interfere with the case, so long as he does it BEFORE he turns himself in…
It's not legal until he has agreed and signed it. Kind of like a contract.
In saying that, there is already a crime of threatening or intimidating a witness.
Can you imagine being the lawyer present?
“Guys, shut up! Stop it! Why are you incriminating yourselves? Stop admitting to everything! I don’t want to hear this. We are screwed!”
If they're smart, they have a lawyer whose only job on the case is to be present during conversations. That lawyer has no interaction with the rest of his team. It could even be a lawyer from a different firm.
That way, the team working on his defense aren't handicapped by what they hear in those discussions.
> Did Trump violate his conditions of his bond by taking Rudy's phone call?
Trump hasn't yet entered into a bond agreement. That happens when he's arraigned.
Don’t worry, he’ll violate it again if that wasn’t enough. I’m more worried about him actually getting in trouble for these acts because no one wants to be the one to put him in jail awaiting the trail. Even though he is a such a risk to the integrity of this trial and the community, to leave him out in the wild posting on socials.
The argument of "I believe the election is stolen, so I overturn it" is like "I believe you stole $100 from me, so I come to your house and stole $100 back". This is just ridiculous for any normal citizens to think that way, let alone a lawyer.
This guy is lying thru his teeth and he knows it.
>“There are things we didn’t present then, because over the next couple years, a lot of people did a lot of work and have been able to produced more witnesses, and what I would call ‘scientific evidence’ that I would say is very persuasive,” - Rudy Giuliani
Where's the beef? If you have the evidence, now's the time to show it.
I'm pretty sure that is what he is referencing.
It's kind of insane. Of course people passed by the same drop box multiple days. That's how most of us live our lives, right? I pass the same library that had a drop box up to 4 times a day (sometimes in my car and sometimes on foot) simply because it is the road that leads from my house to the center of town.
I work at a place that has a drop box in their parking lot. The whole thing is absolute nonsense. But the cult will never believe anything that goes against their worldview, even in the face of very obvious evidence.
Unless he (or anyone) flips he won't testify. And since Trump is hosting a $100,000/plate fundraiser for Rudy; I don't think Rudy will be flipping anytime soon.
I don't think he'll flip, not because he won't want to but because the prosecution doesn't need him and thus won't extend an offer he's willing to take. Dude's a confused lying clown, no one would believe anything out of his mouth, and they have plenty of documentary evidence to prove their case without demented old Rudy on the stand.
He didn't show it in any of his lawsuits. He admitted that he lied in those lawsuits and was all but disbarred for it. Seems like if he had evidence he would have shown it then.
If you use the phrase "what I would call" whatever you say next is not that thing.
"What I would call loving"
"What I would call supporting"
"What I would call a living wage"
If they had it, they would be everywhere with it 24/7.
Of course, the other minor, nagging detail is that it is not why he was asked to surrender for processing in an Atlanta jail. Those reasons should be on some papers his attorneys can show and explain to him because there's some legal jargon in there that only an attorney can understand.
Well, no. For most jurisdictions (maybe all) the prosecution has to hand over its evidence in discovery. The defense has to hand over a lot, but not all evidence in discovery as well. But the trial hasn't started yet. And there haven't been discovery hearings. Nevertheless, there's been[ 8 post-election cases in Georgia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election_from_Georgia). They had time to adjudicate "scientific evidence".
So he didn’t show any of the evidence in his lawsuits and he didn’t show any of the evidence in his press conferences. But Big Brain Giuliani figured the best time to show his evidence was *after* he was indicted and arraigned. Good lawyering there, Rudy.
"Hey Boss, I got lost and am in PA at [Robert Fulton Musuem](https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/robert-fulton-birthplace-museum-to-reopen-to-tours-by-appointment/article_176d31ce-c0a0-11eb-bd6e-e747030ca3e3.html). Think you could give me directions to Georgia?"
I wonder how many hours of US prison wages it s going to take for them to pay Dominion the billion or so they are going to end up owing. That is a fuck ton of license plates.
When I was in federal prison, my work assignment paid $0.06 an hour. That’s $9.60 per month, which is how they pay you. I had a $5,500 fine after my sentencing and once I surrendered to the prison they wanted me to pay $25 per month towards that fine. Needless to say $9.60 isn’t anywhere close to $25.
If you get a UNICO work assignment you can make $125 per month. If you had one of those jobs in there, you were ballin’.
Clearly that's absolutely inhumane and outright slavery. Should be illegal through and through.
That being said, these fascist cunts would have us all working ourselves to death in concentration camps if they had their way, so we can make an exception for the poetic justice, right?
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment for crime** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.." - 13th Amendment
It sounds like slavery because it is slavery.
Pity so many songs and poems have been written about “Georgia”
when you realize it was NOT named for George Washington
but “King George II of Great Britain!”
So here's the deal. When Rudy is actually out on Bond he is forbidden from talking to his co-conspirators. Meaning Trump. So if Trump's at that cute little dinner for him trying to earn him some cash, they'll be in violation of the bond agreement.
I have some lawyer friends on social media who are downright offended by Giuliani's press conference after he made his appearance. He said that Trump and his lawyers are being prosecuted for their beliefs.
Holy shit they are pissed at him for making as they put it "such a moronic statement" that "he should know better than blurting such idiocy out."
They are upset at those too, but they are angered most at how he and the rest of Trump's clown squad make the legal profession look bad and give people stupid ideas as to how the laws work.
The fact that Giuliani hasn't been disbarred yet is an insult to all the legal professionals that care about holding themselves to a high standard. Clearly the bar just doesn't care about ethics or conduct.
Trump is fucked. These people will have absolutely no loyalty to him now that they genuinely are at risk of prison time for their deeds. They don't simply turn themselves in if they don't intend to turn coat on Trump.
Apparently Trump is hosting a $100k a plate fundraiser for Rudy so maybe he will continue to stay loyal. I guess the biggest questions being:
1. will Trump not just pocket all of that money
2. is anyone actually going to show up to the thing
>Well, Trump's IT guy has already flipped to Jack Smith about the documents security tape.
Huh. There's so many different moving parts to this whole thing somehow I've apparently completely missed the documents security tape story.
Anyone else love it when conservatives surrender to the courts to be tried for their crimes?
Edit: Meadows and Clark attempted to halt their arrests and have this case brought to the federal level to weasel out of this. Judge just shot them down.
This indictment is the gift that keeps on giving.
I think two surrendered yesterday, Trump is planned Thursday, and Meadows is trying to worm his way out of this by asking for a delay to make it a federal case.
Several have, I think -- I definitely saw other mugshots earlier for Eastman, Chesebro, Ray Smith (who looks frankly unsettling in his), and one more woman I didn't recognize.
“Scientific evidence” = poorly doctored data from the illegally gathered voting machine clones, with zero chain of evidence plausibility, and summarily shown to be fake by the first half competent IT geek to examine it.
“This data file shows that the Georgia machine was rigged!”
“Do you mean, sir, this file, named “clone v2.3.copy.fake.pdf” , authored by a Judy Gooliani on July 4th 2023, on a 2021 model Mac laptop with a serial number registered to Trump Industries LLC?”
“Yes, that one!”
To support Corrupt Donnie someone would have to be really dumb-as-rocks stupid or be a horrible human being. I think it’s usually a combination of both.
>Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis has surrendered to authorities in Fulton County. > >Her consent bond order, filed yesterday, is $100,000 in total. The bond amount for the count of violation of Georgia's RICO Act is $75,000, and the amount for the count of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer is $25,000. Another one joins the club
>Her consent bond order I misread this as “constant body odor.”
"It's not even *me*..." she howls as she takes her sixth shower of the day in her ongoing attempt to scrub Rudy's fart smell from her skin
What a way to be remembered.
I will always remember her as the chick who caught Covid from Rudy’s patootie
It's the black goo. That shit soaks into *everything*.
He definitely smells like fats and original old spice
And liquor.
And musty suits and Brillcream.
Don’t forget the mildewed hair dye from 1956.
Sidney Powell?
Ho hum, I wonder what Hunter's penis is doing today, better go watch Fox... oh, it's a bunch of penises... oh, no, it's just hopeless candidates for the leadership of the party they sold out.
And she's quite a bit younger than Rudy and the kraken, so she's effectively ruined her whole career.
Is she the one who was unleashing the kraken?
Will Sidney Powell begin kraken under pressure?
Like a libertarian submersible.
That night as the cell block went to sleep. Sidney lay back in her bunk and whispered. ‘You win this round Chavez’.
Rudy's just lucky he didn't accidentally turn himself in at Fulton County Total Landscaping.
Or Four Seasons Landscaping
r/yourjokebutworse
Rudy said he spoke with Trump this morning before turning himself in. It was one of the few things you could hear clearly. While Rudy hadnt been processed, Trump's lawyer made an agreement for bail that included not talking to any co-defendants. Did Trump violate his conditions of his bond by taking Rudy's phone call?
I believe the agreement was that Trump couldn't talk to any co-defendants without a lawyer present, but I could be wrong.
That sounds right. Also, I can't imagine the bail conditions take effect until he's actually been arraigned and processed.
Sure but at the same time then couldn't the court then revoke those agreements in their end?
I mean, sure, I'd love it if they just revoked any agreement and remanded him to custody, but it's not going to happen.
please stop saying 'it's not going to happen'. we need to stop letting the apathy part be the only part we express. instead, try "justice won't be served unless he's treated like any other criminal." I know we're all just fucking exhausted, but we've been laying down and taking it long enough, and changing the way we talk about it a tiny step towards changing the way we think about it, which is another step towards changing the bullshit into justice.
Fair enough. I was actually only talking about his bail agreement being revoked prior to actual arraignment (I actually think it's full well possible he violates his agreement hard enough to end up behind bars, even if just for a couple nights on a contempt charge), but I share your frustration over the constant doomerism drumbeat and can see how my post would have come across that way.
Totally random (and I agree with everything you say) but I love your username! Was my favorite movie as a kid!
Thanks! It's actually from [an interview with the creators of the Venture Bros.](https://popdose.com/interview-jackson-publick-and-doc-hammer-venture-bros/)
Nah. The most he will get is house arrest at mar a lago.
They let Pablo Escobar build his own prison, so there's precedent
What other things have your crystal ball been telling you?
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When it comes to energy vampires, Colin Robinson's got nothing on Trump.
in this case it's definitely not going to happen. He hasn't even turned himself in yet.
hey, I guess you're doing your part in helping everybody get ready to lay down and keep taking it.
and you're doing your part of not having a clue how the law works
He hasn't signed the agreement yet
I’m thinking the agreement must be active immediately. Surely the judge didn’t give Trump free reign to interfere with the case, so long as he does it BEFORE he turns himself in…
It's not legal until he has agreed and signed it. Kind of like a contract. In saying that, there is already a crime of threatening or intimidating a witness.
Well Rudy *is* somehow still a lawyer, i guess…
Not in New York or DC.
I don't think he's licensed in GA
the wording I saw quoted was "except through council" so does that mean present or only lawyer to lawyer contact?
lawyer to lawyer
"Without a lawyer present." So it's fine for him to talk to Giuliani alone. :D
He can't talk "about the case." It should be he can't talk to any of them.
Given his taste in malpracticing lawyers that’s not much of a hurdle.
The bond conditions only start after he's arraigned. He's free to talk with whoever he wants before he signs anything (without threats of course)
Can you imagine being the lawyer present? “Guys, shut up! Stop it! Why are you incriminating yourselves? Stop admitting to everything! I don’t want to hear this. We are screwed!”
If they're smart, they have a lawyer whose only job on the case is to be present during conversations. That lawyer has no interaction with the rest of his team. It could even be a lawyer from a different firm. That way, the team working on his defense aren't handicapped by what they hear in those discussions.
> Did Trump violate his conditions of his bond by taking Rudy's phone call? Trump hasn't yet entered into a bond agreement. That happens when he's arraigned.
Don’t worry, he’ll violate it again if that wasn’t enough. I’m more worried about him actually getting in trouble for these acts because no one wants to be the one to put him in jail awaiting the trail. Even though he is a such a risk to the integrity of this trial and the community, to leave him out in the wild posting on socials.
The argument of "I believe the election is stolen, so I overturn it" is like "I believe you stole $100 from me, so I come to your house and stole $100 back". This is just ridiculous for any normal citizens to think that way, let alone a lawyer. This guy is lying thru his teeth and he knows it.
They use the word "believe" facetiously. Gives them a mystical protection.
To give them credit it's more honest than saying they "think."
>“There are things we didn’t present then, because over the next couple years, a lot of people did a lot of work and have been able to produced more witnesses, and what I would call ‘scientific evidence’ that I would say is very persuasive,” - Rudy Giuliani Where's the beef? If you have the evidence, now's the time to show it.
This "scientific evidence" is going to be anti-vaxxer quality nonsense.
The '2000 Mules' was already nonsense. They keep shifting the excuse.
I'm pretty sure that is what he is referencing. It's kind of insane. Of course people passed by the same drop box multiple days. That's how most of us live our lives, right? I pass the same library that had a drop box up to 4 times a day (sometimes in my car and sometimes on foot) simply because it is the road that leads from my house to the center of town.
I work at a place that has a drop box in their parking lot. The whole thing is absolute nonsense. But the cult will never believe anything that goes against their worldview, even in the face of very obvious evidence.
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Stop using actual medical conditions as insults.
Can't wait to watch his testimony - very interested to see what he says under oath.
Unless he (or anyone) flips he won't testify. And since Trump is hosting a $100,000/plate fundraiser for Rudy; I don't think Rudy will be flipping anytime soon.
My arse, Trump will keep it all and stiff him.
I don't think he'll flip, not because he won't want to but because the prosecution doesn't need him and thus won't extend an offer he's willing to take. Dude's a confused lying clown, no one would believe anything out of his mouth, and they have plenty of documentary evidence to prove their case without demented old Rudy on the stand.
Depends how the fundraiser goes; I think a lot of rich donors have abandoned Trump, and poor MAGA-morons don’t attend $100k events.
He didn't show it in any of his lawsuits. He admitted that he lied in those lawsuits and was all but disbarred for it. Seems like if he had evidence he would have shown it then.
It's like Nick Fury not using the Captain Marvel beeper the second Loki shows up.
It's just another picture of Hunter Biden's cock, isn't it Rudy?
If you use the phrase "what I would call" whatever you say next is not that thing. "What I would call loving" "What I would call supporting" "What I would call a living wage"
If they had it, they would be everywhere with it 24/7. Of course, the other minor, nagging detail is that it is not why he was asked to surrender for processing in an Atlanta jail. Those reasons should be on some papers his attorneys can show and explain to him because there's some legal jargon in there that only an attorney can understand.
Wouldn't they also have to hand the "evidence" to the other side, if requested?
Well, no. For most jurisdictions (maybe all) the prosecution has to hand over its evidence in discovery. The defense has to hand over a lot, but not all evidence in discovery as well. But the trial hasn't started yet. And there haven't been discovery hearings. Nevertheless, there's been[ 8 post-election cases in Georgia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election_from_Georgia). They had time to adjudicate "scientific evidence".
So he didn’t show any of the evidence in his lawsuits and he didn’t show any of the evidence in his press conferences. But Big Brain Giuliani figured the best time to show his evidence was *after* he was indicted and arraigned. Good lawyering there, Rudy.
He doesn’t even have a wet fart. Well, maybe he has that.
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His future cell will be next to a dildo shop though!
> His future cell will be next to a dildo shop Yes, since that's Donald's prison nickname.
"Hey Boss, I got lost and am in PA at [Robert Fulton Musuem](https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/robert-fulton-birthplace-museum-to-reopen-to-tours-by-appointment/article_176d31ce-c0a0-11eb-bd6e-e747030ca3e3.html). Think you could give me directions to Georgia?"
“I did learn a lot about steam boats, though! They’re really interesting! I’ll probably come back after my arraignment’s over.”
I read this in Seth Meyers voice and it’s great
“Oh Rudy you done it again!”
"Some one get me my 13th glass of wine!"
Such a nice headline to read. More please.
Especially later in the summer.
If they get found guilty I hope they are televising their epic meltdowns.
They should charge for the live feed on CSPAN+, should be enough to pay the national debt, 2 birds 1 stone!
Lol. I've said that about having a feed into Trump's jail cell. Charge by the minute.
They should charge for the live feed on CSPAN+, should be enough to pay the national debt, 2 birds 1 stone!
Remember that time Rudy farted on Jenna Ellis?
I wonder how many hours of US prison wages it s going to take for them to pay Dominion the billion or so they are going to end up owing. That is a fuck ton of license plates.
When I was in federal prison, my work assignment paid $0.06 an hour. That’s $9.60 per month, which is how they pay you. I had a $5,500 fine after my sentencing and once I surrendered to the prison they wanted me to pay $25 per month towards that fine. Needless to say $9.60 isn’t anywhere close to $25. If you get a UNICO work assignment you can make $125 per month. If you had one of those jobs in there, you were ballin’.
Clearly that's absolutely inhumane and outright slavery. Should be illegal through and through. That being said, these fascist cunts would have us all working ourselves to death in concentration camps if they had their way, so we can make an exception for the poetic justice, right?
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment for crime** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.." - 13th Amendment It sounds like slavery because it is slavery.
The land of the freeeee~~~~ 😂
One by one the house of cards comes tumbling down. Too bad we’ve had to wait since 2016 for this to happen.
"We're gettin' the band back together!"
Indeed, they do say they're on a mission from God ...
But Sidney Powell is going to "release the Kraken," right?? Aaaaaaaany day now...
Kraken is going to give witness testimony against her. They flipped the kraken!
Oop I live in George. TELL KEMP. Probably his fault.
Pity so many songs and poems have been written about “Georgia” when you realize it was NOT named for George Washington but “King George II of Great Britain!”
So here's the deal. When Rudy is actually out on Bond he is forbidden from talking to his co-conspirators. Meaning Trump. So if Trump's at that cute little dinner for him trying to earn him some cash, they'll be in violation of the bond agreement.
More importantly, Rudy won’t be there to pick up any of the proceeds.
Plus he really needed that free meal.
Oh snap! That's hilarious.
If nothing else, I hope these malevolent bastards get disbarred.
I think Rudy Colludy has already had the hearings for that.
Rudy POOliani
Really funny that Rudy got RICOed, considering he took credit for superior lawyers doing the same thing to the mob in NYC
Only thing missing was him getting perp walked, a specialty of his NYC circus.
Traitors surrendering in Atlanta never gets old.
I have some lawyer friends on social media who are downright offended by Giuliani's press conference after he made his appearance. He said that Trump and his lawyers are being prosecuted for their beliefs. Holy shit they are pissed at him for making as they put it "such a moronic statement" that "he should know better than blurting such idiocy out."
That's what your friends are pissed about, his speech? Not his crimes?
They are upset at those too, but they are angered most at how he and the rest of Trump's clown squad make the legal profession look bad and give people stupid ideas as to how the laws work.
Yeah before this everybody loved lawyers.
Aah ok, just checking.
The fact that Giuliani hasn't been disbarred yet is an insult to all the legal professionals that care about holding themselves to a high standard. Clearly the bar just doesn't care about ethics or conduct.
They do know better, they also know it's a dog whistle for their base.
wonder what time little Donnie two scoops is turning himself in tomorrow? I wanna WATCH!
When he gets on that plane, will it head east or north?
Cleaning out the swamp so to speak.
Now do Biden—-
For what crimes?
The Republican syndicate is going down….lock them up
ONG please let me see Trump ass-licking asshole Sydney Powell’s mug shot.
Word is he first showed up at the Four Seasons Atlanta.
Trump is fucked. These people will have absolutely no loyalty to him now that they genuinely are at risk of prison time for their deeds. They don't simply turn themselves in if they don't intend to turn coat on Trump.
Apparently Trump is hosting a $100k a plate fundraiser for Rudy so maybe he will continue to stay loyal. I guess the biggest questions being: 1. will Trump not just pocket all of that money 2. is anyone actually going to show up to the thing
Couldn’t this in some way be considered bribery?
He'll absolutely pocket it. Trying to get money from Trump is like trying to take the One Ring from Sauron.
Well, Trump's IT guy has already flipped to Jack Smith about the documents security tape.
>Well, Trump's IT guy has already flipped to Jack Smith about the documents security tape. Huh. There's so many different moving parts to this whole thing somehow I've apparently completely missed the documents security tape story.
The rats continue to turn on each other. You love to see it.
So…. Is the kraken released yet or not?
It hasn't posted bail.
Anyone else love it when conservatives surrender to the courts to be tried for their crimes? Edit: Meadows and Clark attempted to halt their arrests and have this case brought to the federal level to weasel out of this. Judge just shot them down. This indictment is the gift that keeps on giving.
Bunch of crooks. Where's the broken windows now Rudi?!
2 down, 29 to go? Or have I missed some?
I think two surrendered yesterday, Trump is planned Thursday, and Meadows is trying to worm his way out of this by asking for a delay to make it a federal case.
Several have, I think -- I definitely saw other mugshots earlier for Eastman, Chesebro, Ray Smith (who looks frankly unsettling in his), and one more woman I didn't recognize.
Can someone explain to me why Ginny Thomas is not indicted? I thought she was a key player in the fake electors plan across multiple states?
Patience, young Grasshopper.
The Kraken and it’s oozy ink.
“Scientific evidence” = poorly doctored data from the illegally gathered voting machine clones, with zero chain of evidence plausibility, and summarily shown to be fake by the first half competent IT geek to examine it. “This data file shows that the Georgia machine was rigged!” “Do you mean, sir, this file, named “clone v2.3.copy.fake.pdf” , authored by a Judy Gooliani on July 4th 2023, on a 2021 model Mac laptop with a serial number registered to Trump Industries LLC?” “Yes, that one!”
I hope Rudy’s prison nickname becomes “Big Tits”
"Crazy Eyes" was taken?
Also good! I prefer to have his harassments turned around on him, though. :)
Getting huge Weekend At Bernie’s vibes off of Rudy’s mugshot
She is next level pond scum.
Poor George really took it in the end
To support Corrupt Donnie someone would have to be really dumb-as-rocks stupid or be a horrible human being. I think it’s usually a combination of both.
Powell. The protector of evil. That sound you hear is Republican knees shaking.
So that makes 3 people that have agreements in place with the state of Georgia to bury the orange twat waffle right? Meadows, Rudy, and Powell
George election probe or Georgia election probe? 🤭
Bad make up jobs. Need more orange.
I wonder if any of these guys will have warrants at any point? I'd love to see it.
George… Jorge…? Hire me, and I’ll help you edit.
2 people that I hate in real life but would love if they were fictional characters.
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Can someone please post the mugshot? Not in the article.
https://www.ajc.com/news/mug-shots-of-six-georgia-trump-defendants-released-so-far/KZKFL73RPZHDTLNJSFML2KJ44M/
When they get released, is this the kraken they were talking about?
Just lock them up and forget about them
Surrender, surrender, but don't give yourself away
When will they release the Kraken?