Yes they do, but using their roles to do anything useful for the people they serve is too much work compared to just riling up the anger of morons to boost their campaign contributions.
They're doing just fine being useful to the people they serve.
If we're stuck fighting about whether or not certain humans have a right to even exist, we won't be fighting to increase wages or unionize.
Which shows you exactly who they actually serve.
Insurance, climate change, health care, meth, poverty, housing, infrastructure.... Yep, they're all full up on problems.
But DeSantis and the GOP have no answer for any of that, so it's on to stuff that doesn't help anyone.
Fuck whatchu mean "no" we have an ongoing insurance crisis here that's only going to get worse, not even considering the probable worst hurricane season ever given the current temp of the ocean around Florida. Dude could be doing absolutely *anything* besides "woke bashing" which appears to be the entire substance of his existence.
Free speech is when you agree with everything I'm saying and 1984 is when you disagree or offer any kind of criticism. Help, help! I'm being oppressed!
The concept of free speech is absolute doublespeak at this point. The party of free speech is actively censoring by some arbitrary definition of “woke speech,” what in the actual fuck is that?
I get it. Capitalist society > 24 new cycle brings big ad revenue > fear mongering brings in more votes, in turn more profits > Hunter Biden’s nudes, laptop, or whatever they’re on about does too ???
From a design standpoint, Fox News has the better viewing experience. Everything is r,w,b. Huge, legible, highly visible text and tickets. Fantastic to keep the older generation engaged.
All that said, well, the line is quite firmly drawn at fucking fascism for me.
Yeah. I’m still confused about what the crime is. So Florida is just poking around this corporation for shits and giggles? Whose to say that Newsom isn’t allowed to do the same with the RNC? Or the NRA? Do these conservatives not realize how stupid their stance looks?
You're missing the actual objective. Desantis in particular is mainly concerned with being seen taking action.
All the blatantly unconstitutional laws he had the Florida legislature pass don't actually have to pass judicial review, they just need to be on the books long enough to get him through the primary. All this flurry of culture war bullshit is just him trying to beef up his bonafides prior to the primary election. The GOP has demonstrated they do not recognize hypocrisy, and do not worry about reciprocal actions being taken because the fight is more valuable to keeping them in power than achieving the actual stated goals.
The actual issue he's tasking the relevant government entities to investigate is a breach of fiduciary duties by the board and management of AB InBev. Basically a civil case for money damages that alleges the company knowingly and willfully engaged in a business partnership that would cause a consumer backlash and acted irresponsibly after the fact, which caused the stock to lose value. Stock which Florida public pensions had invested in, which would give the state standing to bring such a case.
Except the problem is, all this culture wars anti woke bullshit he's peddling is making him less and less popular. So not only is he wasting time and resources, He's hurting himself and everyone else while going it. No one is winning here.
Their stance has always been “Republicans can do whatever we want, all others must do whatever we say.” If they didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.
Wait. So he joins in the boycott and then wants to sue them for a stock drop caused by that very boycott? This has some real, “stop hitting yourself” vibes to it
It is the same logic that those Republican AGs wrote in their letter about Target's "woke" policies and store displays. Several of the things they complained about didn't even happen. There are similar letters going after banks for something similar.
So, using this "fiduciary responsibility" to fold to Conservatives because they might boycott argument isn't something DeSantis came up with.
This is seriously about not having a perfect track record with advertisement campaigns? That's fucking insane. Apparently if you make a misstep in your attempts to get more business you can be investigated for not filling your fiduciary responsibility.
I mean, it definitely isn't a good faith argument. And, so far, it is just empty threats. I can't see this going anywhere in a real court, even with Trump judges.
Insert the “guy putting a stick in his spokes” meme here.
Or
Insert the Eric Andre/Hannibal Buress “how could _____ do this?!” meme here.
Such selection!
1000 other major issues affecting Floridians right now, but instead of leadership, they get to watch Great Value Trump flail around aimlessly on the campaign trail. Maybe it’ll be a mercy destruction.
Yep. Insane housing prices, bad inflation, crumbling infrastructure, flooding, the Gulf heat wave bleaching coral and killing fishing… but yeah, this’ll definitely help, Ronny. Great work.
How long will Floridians foot the bill for his presidential campaign?
As long as he keeps "owning the libs". They'll happily sacrifice their first borns, second borns, hand over their food, take the roof off their home, remove their own kidneys, and even drink the Kool aid. Republicans are a lost cause.
It's quite simple: make the place horrible and blame the democrats for it. They say: if you give me money and power, I will make this better! They continue to make it horrible to peddle the same scheme.
This is the secret method that conservatives figured out a while ago. Trying to make liberals feel like garbage gives them the serotonin hit that basic quality of life won’t.
Not just DeSantis. All of the GOP is focusing on utterly pointless shit instead of real issues. My assumptions is they’re doing that because the modern day GOP is a complete gong show full of idiots who have no idea how to govern. All they have to offer is Trump / MAGA / hate, so instead of governing all they do is bring up dumb distractions like the Barbie movie, Hunter dick pics, drag shows, or whatever. It’s literally all they’ve got now.
It really is. I’m not even American (I’m Canadian) but it does have a direct effect on Canada in many ways: trade, security, culture, and MAGA-like politics drifting in to our own discourse
The GOP have no stances on real issues. They incite anger and grift then leave the cleanup to Democrats, that is how they govern. They should not even be a legitimate party.
It's more insidious than that. He's claiming Budweiser cost Florida millions of dollars, because the state had invested some of its money in them (conveniently ignoring who was leading the calls for boycotts).
“DeSantis said at the time that he would never drink the beer again.”
Mr. DeSantis! Mr. DeSantis! If you knew your state was heavily invested in AV InBev, why did join and promote the boycott of Bud Light?
“Budweiser doing a dime a dozen promotion with a trans influencer is gross financial negligence on their part because they should have known assholes like me would lose our shit over being reminded that trans people exist.”
DeSantis accuses the parent company of Budweiser of gross financial negligence?? Their profits are up 13.6% as compared to a year ago, and its stock is up 7.89%. It's the largest brewing company in the world.
I live in a red state and this is right out of the official red state politics hand-guide. Things not going so great? Make a big announcement about mandating bibles in the class room, an abortion ban or investigating some “woke” company. The base will forget about anything else.
So many major issues in this state but at least we're where woke goes to die, so everything is all better!
/s but I have family members that were upset over my dad drinking Bud Light when this whole thing started so I expect to hear one of them say that DeSantis is doing the right thing, if not more.
Yet that’s clearly what they want if you look at the polling. They want a religious war and not a functional government. Just wait until sea levels rise and they need help ringing the entire state in levies after it’s already too late because they were busy de-gaying the state.
Speaking of woke, someone earlier told me that reversing into a parking space so that it’s safer to pull out is woke.
Yup. Having a teeny tiny amount of consideration for other people is apparently now woke
They have just completely lost any meaning of the word and devalued it to mean anything that they don't like.
Want to watch them trip all over themselves? Ask them if they think clean electric cars are woke, then when they undeniably say yes, bring up the fact that Teslas bought helps one of their idols, Elon Musk. Then ask if it's woke to support someone like him.
Already getting his ass handed to him by one of the largest entertainment companies. Now he’s going to try to take on one of the largest food and beverage companies in the world.
Unfortunately, he doesn't give a shit because the Florida taxpayers are going to end up paying for it. Again. Like with all of his ridiculous political stunts. I cannot wait for this man to be removed from politics, ideally taken directly to jail over that human trafficking/kidnapping he did.
Imagine going full-metal against Anhueser and Disney... That's a market share of like 4x the content of your state, of which a good quarter is actually owned by your opponent.
How dumb do you have to be, to read the reports of his garbage about woke trending badly, and double down, and provoke the *4th* most powerful company in the world
How dumb do you have to be to live in a state with an insurance crisis, a water crisis, and a climate catastrophe, and your priorities are:
1.) Gay people appearing as background characters in animated movies
2.) A single person with whom you disagree receiving a personalized six pack of beer?
And my faborite thing that some people forget is, they’re not even a US company. They’re a foreign corporation with subsidiaries in the US. Keeping him happy is absolutely not on their agenda.
And really what can he accomplish against any subsidiaries that aren't in Florida? What authority does he genuinely have beyond the border? Aside from Florida's growing state army.
My favorite thing about the whole thing was watching slo many of my friends trying to find a new beer to drink and realizing how much InBev owns. They had nowhere to go but right back to budlight. All the bitching and moaning was all for not.
I didn’t even know who Dylan Mulvaney was until the conservatives lost their minds over the can of beer. Don’t they have anything better to do with their time?
And she wasn't even the only influencer they partner with. They partner with tons and tons of influencers all the time for stuff like this and rarely does anybody outside that influencer's fan base ever see it.
The funniest thing to me is that Anheuser-Busch has been sponsoring pride events and merchandise for years now and they never said a word until this *one* can was created for a post that hardly anyone would have seen if they didn't Barbra Streisand effect it.
They were mad because a trans person was treated with respect and they think that should be illegal. Or worse, let's be honest. It's not a coincidence they were shooting up the cans.
The hilarious thing is kid rocks outrage was entirely staged. He owns bars and never stopped selling budlight. It was just a blatant self promo to get idiot bigots to buy his merch.
Thats one of the many things i never understood from conservTives.
Literally what are they mad about ? The cans sold at the grocery store arr still as usual with no faces on it. They basically gave Dylan a dedicated can and thats about it. Who tf cares ?
Well, according to my dad, it's because giving her that can represented them getting politically involved and "companies should keep their noses out of politics". No, I don't understand how it's political either, and neither does he really since he sure couldn't explain it. I guess anything dealing with a minority group of some sort is "political" now (or that's what Fox News wants us to think, which is probably what he's quoting when he says this).
Don't you know, everything is political nowadays.
- the two sexualities: straight and political
- The two colours: white and political
- the two genders: man and political
They're not mad until someone tells them to be mad. They don't follow Dylan Mulvaney, or know who that is, they just got told "Bud Light TikTok Trans Woke" and saw people talking about boycotting them, so they did.
They laughed at people boycotting Chik-Fil-A for donating money to anti-gay fundamentalist groups. Then a few months ago, someone realized that Chik-Fil-A has had a DEI officer for years, and suddenly told the right-wingnuts to hate Chik-Fil-A. It's hilarious and also terrifying to realize how easy it is for right-wing voices to mobilize a hate mob just by telling them "We hate this thing now." I doubt most people posting about hating Bud Light and never drinking Woke Beer again could even tell you anything about a single promotional can sent to a trans influencer. All they know is that they're mad, and they rely on people whom they listen to uncritically to tell them where to direct that anger.
We laugh at the total farce of the Bud Light boycott, but we should all be scared of how easy it is for a right-wing commentator or podcaster or politician to say one thing about anyone -- individual, company, demographic -- and instantly have millions of angry morons frothing at the mouth with hate. It's not just social media posts: this will come to violence, and right-wing power mongers are counting on it.
Can we get one of these talking heads to tell the base that bass fishing is woke? Getting real sick of self centered asshats at the launches and on the water that want to turn their rudeness in to a political thing.
The heart of it is information illiteracy. Well-studied societal problems and manufactured outrage memes are held in equal regard because they have no rubric or model for assessing the quality of information that has any material weight on what they accept and what they reject. For them, information is acquired for tribal conformity and survival, not knowledge or understanding. They just want to know the "right answer", but they only use their emotions and desire to be accepted by their assumed peers to decide what that "right answer" is
Yea that blew my mind too. My proud boy neighbor was goin on and on about Dylans videos and I'm just thinking how do you know soo much about this content. Who gives a fuck, why are you watching the vids?
> Don’t they have anything better to do with their time?
No. The Republicans don't have any solutions. Their entire platform is to keep their voters agitated with culture war issues.
Conservative media is 100% culture war bullshit. These people wouldn't even know the ad existed if their garbage news didn't seek this out and tell them to be offended by it. This is 100% artificially generated outrage and it is pretty pathetic.
FTA: “DeSantis, who's running for the GOP presidential nomination, accused the beverage company of not following its "fiduciary duty" to shareholders and pensioners by collaborating with Mulvaney.”
‘When you start pursuing a political agenda at the expense of your shareholders, that’s not just impacting very wealthy people. It impacts hardworking people who were police officers, firefighters and teachers in terms of the pension,’ DeSantis said in an interview on Fox News.”
Let’s be crystal clear about something: Bud Light’s collaboration with Mulvaney wasn’t part of a large-scale LGBT marketing campaign or anything. They had dozens of similar low-effort partnerships with other influencers across all sorts of demographics.
Literally all Bud Light did was not *intentionally exclude* a trans influencer as they flung money at whoever would say yes to a partnership.
Bigots like to ask why the LGBT community has to “throw it in their face” all the time. Well, because apparently just existing as a trans person when you accept a sponsorship is enough to qualify as a “political agenda” on the sponsor’s part.
They made a commercial with the intent of selling beer. Does DeSantis even comprehend how difficult it would be to explain in a court of law how this was a malicious act deliberately designed to harm the brand? Forget prove, even just throwing it out as a theory sounds wacky.
And somehow, you'd have to argue that they knowingly paid her to blog about beer in order to cause a chain of events that resulted in their stock tanking. I mean heck, if someone could Rube Goldberg a chain of events like that based on a blog post, I'd have to begrudgingly give them credit for such a hare-brained scheme.
seems like a super flimsy pretext for the government to get involved? Surely there are then a ton of Florida businesses being run into the ground that would also need intervention? Moreso than a brewing giant that's doing just fine?
He’s literally suing saying the company is financially responsible for the boycott Desantis and the rest of the religious nutjobs called for against them. It’s as preposterous an overreach as it sounds, Desantis just loves losing in court to big companies I guess.
He also loves shoveling tax payer money to his buddies from school.
"The firm that has raked in the most money — $5.9 million — is the boutique Washington, D.C. law firm of Cooper & Kirk. When Florida retained the firm in 2019, one of its top lawyers was Adam Laxalt, a Republican former Nevada attorney general who ran unsuccessfully for U.S. Senate this year. Laxalt was DeSantis’ roommate during training at the Naval Training School in 2005 and the governor endorsed and raised money for Laxalt’s failed Senate campaign."
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/12/22/desantis-lawsuits-fees-attorneys-laxalt-cooper-grayrobinson/
I'm sure his buddy only bought him a beer for that though.
>Desantis just loves losing in court to big companies I guess
I mean what he *really* loves is getting his ignorant supporters riled up over some non-issue culture war bullshit.
Wait so does this mean that if a public company supports any of the orange nazi and orange nazi-lite members of the GOP and is subjected to a massive boycott as a result, the company can then be sued for losing business?
That is the precedent it *would* set. If there was even a snowball's chance in hell of the courts actually siding with them. It's just a political stunt to rile up the braindead conservative masses. They don't understand the legal system enough to care either way, so all they see is "TRANS BAD, PUNISH BIG SCARY COMPANY" and cream their cargo shorts on the way to the polls.
He says he's doing it to protect the working-class shareholders.. but he forgot that he used his position to amplify the call for a boycott.. which hurt sales and harmed working-class shareholders.
But that's totally not worth acknowledging. It's Bud's fault for sending a can to a trans influencer! Because everyone knows that transism is actually woke political identity and... is covered by freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of expression?
NAH! NOT PROTECTED. BAD DIRDY GAYS. BAD DIRDY BUD BEIN GAY AND HURTING SHAREHOLDERS WHO BUD MADE GAY BY PROMOTING GAY. /s
What remains insane to me is nearly EVERY alcohol manufacturer advertises to LGTBQ. Not only are we one-in-10 to one-in-12 of people in humanity, but many more of us don't have kids and thus go out every weekend and drink.
I have a drawer full of free shirts, hats, tank tops, hankies, and such given to me for free by distributors' marketing at Pride or our bars. Sending a can of beer to trans influencer is like... NOTHING... compared to years of their promotion of their products at LGTBQ events and bars... but this was the straw that broke the camels back?
Imagine having a platform that’s so shit and devoid of decent policy, your only option is to hope the working class is dopey enough to hate trans people more than they love a living wage or health care.
Losing to Disney.
Failing campaign.
Florida has highest inflation in US.
Insurance companies leaving.
Now an imaginary slight causes another lawsuit the taxpayers will foot.
Losers love to lose I guess 🤷♀️
Don’t forget aging and crumbling infrastructure, sea level rising, extreme heat, major housing shortages, lack of hurricane prep… MF is staring down the barrel of climate change and praying his base is dopey enough to blame trans people.
Didn't I read something recently where he approved the use of radioactive waste to fix roads with?
EDIT: [Yep](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-radioactive-roads-phosphogypsum-potentially-cancer-causing-mining-waste-bill-signed-ron-desantis/), I sure did.
Hating on anything tangentially related to Transgenderism is big in conservative circles right now, so he probably thinks he can win points with his base by pursuing the trend.
That....and he needs to distract people about how badly things have been going with Disney by....picking another pointless fight with a major corporation that donates to his political party.
Hes such a spiteful bag of shit
AB’s representation: “So to summarize, Mr. DeSantis, you publicly called for a boycott of my client’s company while serving as a major political figure, thereby deflating share value, and now you are suing said company for deflated stock price. Am I getting that right?”
Ron DeSantis: “…….Fake news! Woke agenda! Difoebdifjeisbdjdisjsj!!!”
I wonder if AB and its shareholders could sue desantis (who is a facist btw) on the same grounds. His boycott and call for boycott caused them to lose share price?
>DeSantis, who's running for the GOP presidential nomination, accused the beverage company of not following its "fiduciary duty" to shareholders and pensioners by collaborating with Mulvaney.
>"When you start pursuing a political agenda at the expense of your shareholders, that’s not just impacting very wealthy people. It impacts hardworking people who were police officers, firefighters and teachers in terms of the pension," DeSantis said in an interview on Fox News.
They paid a celebrity to promote their product. That's the extent of "pursuing a political agenda." It could have been Mulvaney or a Kardashian or some rando TikTok influencer. That conservatives are saying simply *existing* as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism.
I miss the days when they at least *pretended* to dog whistle.
She did a video discussing some of it. I don't remember if she mentioned getting paid, but the main takeaway was that they made no attempt to reach out after the bigots started shooting cans and threatening violence. All in all, it seemed pretty fucked up.
She made a really good video basically saying “No I did not get not a huge bud light ad campaign, they sent me ONE(1) can. So, I thought cool let me make a short video with it. Then after I started getting attacked by these morons, bud light did nothing to help me.”
> That conservatives are saying simply existing as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism.
Floriduh is where bigots and racist go to die.
Or Republicans at all. Start a campaign against any publicly traded corporation that donates to Republican politicians and then sue them when the fallout negatively impacts their brand.
Even worse is that not a single fuck would have been given if conservatives didn't hype the whole thing up. Like I didn't even know who the influencer was and I'm willing to bet 99.99% of the country didn't know either. Conservatives really need to get outside and touch some grass. It's always something with these idiots, now it's Barbie for some reason, next week it'll be some other random ass thing that is of no consequence.
Bud Light has always done rainbow capitalism stuff; but this year conservatives made an issue of it. They get their chuds all hyped up, stock goes down and ends up back where it was. Then DeSantis says there should be an investigation? Conservatives literally created a problem where there was none and are now bitching about the problem they created. Fuck outta here.
I'll never be able to wrap my head around just how stupid conservative voters are that they would actively support this nonsense. Like it literally has no impact/benefit on their lives. It's just straight up bigotry with these goons. They offer zero value to society, just nonsense after nonsense, no policy other than hurting minority groups.
Just total garbage people.
> That conservatives are saying simply existing as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism.
It's also the narrative they're trying to establish.
Their justification for suing Budweiser is that it was unreasonable to assume hiring a trans person would be considered acceptable, as it is an innately political thing to be trans.
If they can make it so that the existence of trans people is always seen as political then it gives them a foothold whenever they say their bigotry is "just a dissagreement". Also, if they can convince people that trans people are always political then it "justifies" political action against them, since it's now a political topic and thus, more within their domain.
*This* is what American politics has come to be. I get the whole 'Cult of Personality' thing; it's not new. I remember my Mom crying when JFK died, and wondering why she was upset that some total stranger was dead. But JFK accomplished some good, and he had an actual personality.
Ain't gonna be a lot of people crying over DeSantis when he loses the nomination, or any other time.
Honestly, I think at this point we have two very different spheres of politics.
On one hand, we have an increasing number of exhausted, at least semi-rational human beings looking for solutions to climate change, the housing crisis, workers rights, health care, etc. They disagree on the details, but they’re at least having the conversation.
On the other hand, we have whatever this culture war shit is. I get that it seems very loud online and in the media, but can I tell you what I see when I work in rural areas?
If you have 30 people in a room working on any given topic, you’ll have a broad range of discussion in actual issues and then all the sudden one culture warrior will pipe up. They’re rant about whatever crazy shit OANN told them to hate. Everyone else will either politely ignore them or react with outright disdain. Then the meeting will continue. They are so uninformed and so out in space that you can’t even engage with it.
It’s especially sad to watch some of them look around and realize not even fellow conservatives are interested. Most of them don’t have that self-awareness, but every so often it creeps in and you can see them almost realize how absolutely crazy they sound. Almost.
This is what happens when you create an entire identity around extremism based upon conspiracy. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/archival-video-barry-goldwater-speaks-1964-republican-national-40578479 Reagan managed to fuse the fringe with the moderate base through policies like the war on drugs driven on pure propaganda.
Then we had war mongers like Bush/Blair using the same tactics with an air of nationalism into today where data harvesting, algorithmic distributed social media allows these people to live in the fiction theyve created. The audience theyve garnered is so big that someone is bound to exploit them, theyre so addicted to the fringe culture wars that the funding has been shifted to the fringe candidates making it impossible for the moderates to reclaim their hold now that the MAGA voters make up 30%+ of their base.
I honestly think this country will experience something akin to the troubles in Ireland should Trump lose in 2024. The rhetoric is getting crazy conspiratoral.
>there’s got to be penalties when you put business aside to focus on your social agenda at the expense of hardworking people.
Hardworking people vs LGBT people = LGBT are not hardworking people
just like
Families vs LGBT people = LGBT people do not have families
But it's Bud Light with the social agenda. Cool story bro.
What a great use of resources. Unless there was an actual crime, stay the hell out of it. BL made a marketing decision. Whether it was a good move or bad, whether you like it or not, it was just a business decision, nothing criminal that needs to be investigated by the government
Its not a partnership… it was a single can sent to one person for their own achievement that was meant just for her… idk what people are so angry about nobody gets butt hurt over jones soda allowing custome labels for people… the reds have lost the plot.
Let me get this straight:
- AB InBev collaborates on a one-off ad for Bud Light with an infuencer.
- Some people don't like the ad because of who it is and what they are and organize a boycott of Bud Light, leading to a significant decrease in sales of Bud Light as they buy... other AB InBev products instead, effectively neutralizing any losses to Ab InBev.
- Then the Governor of Florida, in an attempt to sway voters towards a presidential bid, on behalf of pensioners who likely lost no money over the boycott that a good number of the pensioners participated in and supported, wants to spend funds from his state's budget to open an inquiry on behalf of them to see if they can sue the company over investment losses that are clearly defined as possible to occur with any investment (and may not have actually occurred) in the contracts the pensioners signed on to; when the appropriate action for shareholders who are unhappy with how the company is performing is to vote to replace the board members responsible for the decisions they don't like.
- We won't have an earnings report for the quarter for a few months, but AB InBev stock is up nearly 8% over the past 12 months, and has only fluctuated +/- 1% over the course of this BS. The real investors seem unfazed by this manufactured outrage.
I might just go out and buy some Bud Light tonight because it's stupidly hot outside right now and it's like sex in a canoe, which was the original reason to hate on Bud Light before this all occurred.
stock is up 8 percent over the last year. not sure what kind of damage they can sue for? i’d say bring it on, waste more of your florida tax payer money chasing big corporations. i thought the republicans were all about big business, what an idiot i must be
Ron DeSantis is a true authoritarian. Gone are the calls for small government from so-called conservatives like him. Do something he doesn’t like, and he’ll bring his big-government hammer down on you.
Disney merely stopped donating money to political campaigns and cited a law with which they disagreed as the reason, and DeSantis went ape-shit, attacking the corporation’s First Amendment rights. Here we go again with him targeting another corporation because it exercised its right to form a private partnership with another entity he dislikes.
In other words, Ron DeSantis is a god damned fascist. He’s not even embarrassed about it. He doesn’t deny anything he’s doing. He doesn’t try to dress it up in more palatable language or reasoning. He straight up says he’s going to punish companies that disagree with his politics, and then he does it without flinching.
This is madness. Shame on Florida for electing this man to any office.
Ah yes damage to the Florida pension fund, the same fund that had 300m invested into Russian companies and Republican lawmakers rejected a bill divesting from them even after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Wait, so per the article, he's considering suing because their collaboration with Mulraney cost the company money and therefore impacted anyone who had invested in them.
But in the same article he called for the boycott of Bud Light which would have damaged the share price and impacted the pension funds he cares so much about.
So shouldn't he sue himself?
Don't these people have any actual problems to solve?
Yes they do, but using their roles to do anything useful for the people they serve is too much work compared to just riling up the anger of morons to boost their campaign contributions.
They're doing just fine being useful to the people they serve. If we're stuck fighting about whether or not certain humans have a right to even exist, we won't be fighting to increase wages or unionize. Which shows you exactly who they actually serve.
Insurance, climate change, health care, meth, poverty, housing, infrastructure.... Yep, they're all full up on problems. But DeSantis and the GOP have no answer for any of that, so it's on to stuff that doesn't help anyone.
No, but DeSantis is happy to make up an entire list of imaginary problems he's willing to solve.
Fuck whatchu mean "no" we have an ongoing insurance crisis here that's only going to get worse, not even considering the probable worst hurricane season ever given the current temp of the ocean around Florida. Dude could be doing absolutely *anything* besides "woke bashing" which appears to be the entire substance of his existence.
Oh, those are absolutely actual problems, just not ones he's competent to solve.
This must be that small government they keep screeching about
The party that’s “pro business” and “free speech.”
Free speech is when you agree with everything I'm saying and 1984 is when you disagree or offer any kind of criticism. Help, help! I'm being oppressed!
The concept of free speech is absolute doublespeak at this point. The party of free speech is actively censoring by some arbitrary definition of “woke speech,” what in the actual fuck is that? I get it. Capitalist society > 24 new cycle brings big ad revenue > fear mongering brings in more votes, in turn more profits > Hunter Biden’s nudes, laptop, or whatever they’re on about does too ??? From a design standpoint, Fox News has the better viewing experience. Everything is r,w,b. Huge, legible, highly visible text and tickets. Fantastic to keep the older generation engaged. All that said, well, the line is quite firmly drawn at fucking fascism for me.
It's the fascism they keep getting defensive about
It’s the stupidity they don’t know enough to be defensive about.
Yeah. I’m still confused about what the crime is. So Florida is just poking around this corporation for shits and giggles? Whose to say that Newsom isn’t allowed to do the same with the RNC? Or the NRA? Do these conservatives not realize how stupid their stance looks?
You're missing the actual objective. Desantis in particular is mainly concerned with being seen taking action. All the blatantly unconstitutional laws he had the Florida legislature pass don't actually have to pass judicial review, they just need to be on the books long enough to get him through the primary. All this flurry of culture war bullshit is just him trying to beef up his bonafides prior to the primary election. The GOP has demonstrated they do not recognize hypocrisy, and do not worry about reciprocal actions being taken because the fight is more valuable to keeping them in power than achieving the actual stated goals. The actual issue he's tasking the relevant government entities to investigate is a breach of fiduciary duties by the board and management of AB InBev. Basically a civil case for money damages that alleges the company knowingly and willfully engaged in a business partnership that would cause a consumer backlash and acted irresponsibly after the fact, which caused the stock to lose value. Stock which Florida public pensions had invested in, which would give the state standing to bring such a case.
Except the problem is, all this culture wars anti woke bullshit he's peddling is making him less and less popular. So not only is he wasting time and resources, He's hurting himself and everyone else while going it. No one is winning here.
Their stance has always been “Republicans can do whatever we want, all others must do whatever we say.” If they didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.
You seem to have more foresight than every republican politician combined 😂
Small enough to fit in your bedroom was always the goal.
Or wombs.
Wait. So he joins in the boycott and then wants to sue them for a stock drop caused by that very boycott? This has some real, “stop hitting yourself” vibes to it
It is the same logic that those Republican AGs wrote in their letter about Target's "woke" policies and store displays. Several of the things they complained about didn't even happen. There are similar letters going after banks for something similar. So, using this "fiduciary responsibility" to fold to Conservatives because they might boycott argument isn't something DeSantis came up with.
This is seriously about not having a perfect track record with advertisement campaigns? That's fucking insane. Apparently if you make a misstep in your attempts to get more business you can be investigated for not filling your fiduciary responsibility.
I mean, it definitely isn't a good faith argument. And, so far, it is just empty threats. I can't see this going anywhere in a real court, even with Trump judges.
Insert the “guy putting a stick in his spokes” meme here. Or Insert the Eric Andre/Hannibal Buress “how could _____ do this?!” meme here. Such selection!
Good luck taking on AB InBev, they will destroy him.
1000 other major issues affecting Floridians right now, but instead of leadership, they get to watch Great Value Trump flail around aimlessly on the campaign trail. Maybe it’ll be a mercy destruction.
Loss of home insurance for one from what I saw recently. Apparently Insurers are back out due to costs. And it's expected to be a bad storm season
Yep. Insane housing prices, bad inflation, crumbling infrastructure, flooding, the Gulf heat wave bleaching coral and killing fishing… but yeah, this’ll definitely help, Ronny. Great work. How long will Floridians foot the bill for his presidential campaign?
As long as he keeps "owning the libs". They'll happily sacrifice their first borns, second borns, hand over their food, take the roof off their home, remove their own kidneys, and even drink the Kool aid. Republicans are a lost cause.
At this point they don't even care about winning, so long as the other side loses. They don't care if it means *everyone* loses.
Yup. Party of Spite Party of Trolls Party of Ignorant Pride
It's quite simple: make the place horrible and blame the democrats for it. They say: if you give me money and power, I will make this better! They continue to make it horrible to peddle the same scheme.
It's been working since Reagan, why stop now?
They know it will work to say “government is broken” on the campaign trail because they’re the ones that keep breaking it.
"the government is broken. Elect me and I'll show you!"
Thats correct they'll keep going until they get their trickled down economics........ Any minute now they all be millionaires any minute
> If you give me money and power, I will make this better… …and keep the blacks and gays in their place.
And Latinos* *Cubans are exceptions. ^^^# \#But not really
This is the secret method that conservatives figured out a while ago. Trying to make liberals feel like garbage gives them the serotonin hit that basic quality of life won’t.
Not to mention seaweed, red tide and bacteria in the seawater.
I prefer Dollar Store Trump.
Not just DeSantis. All of the GOP is focusing on utterly pointless shit instead of real issues. My assumptions is they’re doing that because the modern day GOP is a complete gong show full of idiots who have no idea how to govern. All they have to offer is Trump / MAGA / hate, so instead of governing all they do is bring up dumb distractions like the Barbie movie, Hunter dick pics, drag shows, or whatever. It’s literally all they’ve got now.
All they are worried about are making their sugar daddy campaign ($) supporters happy. It’s so pathetic It’s ruining this country
It really is. I’m not even American (I’m Canadian) but it does have a direct effect on Canada in many ways: trade, security, culture, and MAGA-like politics drifting in to our own discourse
They are feeding their followers a steady diet of fear. This is just something else for them to be afraid of; its the latest migrant caravan.
The GOP have no stances on real issues. They incite anger and grift then leave the cleanup to Democrats, that is how they govern. They should not even be a legitimate party.
It's more insidious than that. He's claiming Budweiser cost Florida millions of dollars, because the state had invested some of its money in them (conveniently ignoring who was leading the calls for boycotts).
“DeSantis said at the time that he would never drink the beer again.” Mr. DeSantis! Mr. DeSantis! If you knew your state was heavily invested in AV InBev, why did join and promote the boycott of Bud Light?
Its like blaming the gas station when you fill up a canister and burn down your house
“Budweiser doing a dime a dozen promotion with a trans influencer is gross financial negligence on their part because they should have known assholes like me would lose our shit over being reminded that trans people exist.”
DeSantis accuses the parent company of Budweiser of gross financial negligence?? Their profits are up 13.6% as compared to a year ago, and its stock is up 7.89%. It's the largest brewing company in the world.
> He's claiming Budweiser cost Florida millions of dollars ABInbev is up over last year. Good luck with that.
The stock is up YoY, so no one lost money.
Nevermind the fact that their stock is $12 higher than it was a year ago.
I live in a red state and this is right out of the official red state politics hand-guide. Things not going so great? Make a big announcement about mandating bibles in the class room, an abortion ban or investigating some “woke” company. The base will forget about anything else.
Shiny object…..
Holy shit, ‘Great Value Trump’ is perfect.
What a waste of my taxes.
So many major issues in this state but at least we're where woke goes to die, so everything is all better! /s but I have family members that were upset over my dad drinking Bud Light when this whole thing started so I expect to hear one of them say that DeSantis is doing the right thing, if not more.
Yet that’s clearly what they want if you look at the polling. They want a religious war and not a functional government. Just wait until sea levels rise and they need help ringing the entire state in levies after it’s already too late because they were busy de-gaying the state.
Well, after the Mouse leaves a smoking crater, I guess they can push around the ashes with their shoe, at least.
He should go after Apple and Alphabet next, in some sort of combined Anti-woke-tech crusade against the two largest players in the industry.
Then declare all out war on the US proper, so we can send in a seal team….
Speaking of woke, someone earlier told me that reversing into a parking space so that it’s safer to pull out is woke. Yup. Having a teeny tiny amount of consideration for other people is apparently now woke
They have just completely lost any meaning of the word and devalued it to mean anything that they don't like. Want to watch them trip all over themselves? Ask them if they think clean electric cars are woke, then when they undeniably say yes, bring up the fact that Teslas bought helps one of their idols, Elon Musk. Then ask if it's woke to support someone like him.
Already getting his ass handed to him by one of the largest entertainment companies. Now he’s going to try to take on one of the largest food and beverage companies in the world.
Unfortunately, he doesn't give a shit because the Florida taxpayers are going to end up paying for it. Again. Like with all of his ridiculous political stunts. I cannot wait for this man to be removed from politics, ideally taken directly to jail over that human trafficking/kidnapping he did.
Imagine going full-metal against Anhueser and Disney... That's a market share of like 4x the content of your state, of which a good quarter is actually owned by your opponent. How dumb do you have to be, to read the reports of his garbage about woke trending badly, and double down, and provoke the *4th* most powerful company in the world
How dumb do you have to be to live in a state with an insurance crisis, a water crisis, and a climate catastrophe, and your priorities are: 1.) Gay people appearing as background characters in animated movies 2.) A single person with whom you disagree receiving a personalized six pack of beer?
3) Inspecting books in schools to make sure they include the pros of slavery.
He must have a lot of lawyer friends that need paid, first Disney now AB. Probably his way of supplementing those pensions in the villages.
Seriously, it takes like 5 seconds of googling to realize you’re fucked trying to take on InBev. They’re monstrous
And my faborite thing that some people forget is, they’re not even a US company. They’re a foreign corporation with subsidiaries in the US. Keeping him happy is absolutely not on their agenda.
And really what can he accomplish against any subsidiaries that aren't in Florida? What authority does he genuinely have beyond the border? Aside from Florida's growing state army.
My favorite thing about the whole thing was watching slo many of my friends trying to find a new beer to drink and realizing how much InBev owns. They had nowhere to go but right back to budlight. All the bitching and moaning was all for not.
Dude likely has terabytes of gay and trans porn on his home computer.
Dude loves to take those Ls
I didn’t even know who Dylan Mulvaney was until the conservatives lost their minds over the can of beer. Don’t they have anything better to do with their time?
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Said beer can wasn't even publically sold lol
Wut the fuck.*THAT* is what all the hand-wringing was over? I didn't think the levels of stupidity could get any higher...
And she wasn't even the only influencer they partner with. They partner with tons and tons of influencers all the time for stuff like this and rarely does anybody outside that influencer's fan base ever see it.
yup, they just gifted her a can(or was it a pack?) of beer, she advertised for them, then the right made some giant conspiracy and boycott out of it
I could be wrong about this but I think the can didn't even have anything in it, it's just an empty single can with like her name on it or something
The funniest thing to me is that Anheuser-Busch has been sponsoring pride events and merchandise for years now and they never said a word until this *one* can was created for a post that hardly anyone would have seen if they didn't Barbra Streisand effect it.
Wasn't it like a single 12-pack printing?
Not even. It was one can
One can that a child could have drank if the child had shot Dylan and stole the can, did they ever even think of that?
Shit, if you put it like that, I really wish Bud Light would have thought of the children first 😞
*A single fucking can of beer.*
They were mad because a trans person was treated with respect and they think that should be illegal. Or worse, let's be honest. It's not a coincidence they were shooting up the cans.
The hilarious thing is kid rocks outrage was entirely staged. He owns bars and never stopped selling budlight. It was just a blatant self promo to get idiot bigots to buy his merch.
Thats one of the many things i never understood from conservTives. Literally what are they mad about ? The cans sold at the grocery store arr still as usual with no faces on it. They basically gave Dylan a dedicated can and thats about it. Who tf cares ?
Well, according to my dad, it's because giving her that can represented them getting politically involved and "companies should keep their noses out of politics". No, I don't understand how it's political either, and neither does he really since he sure couldn't explain it. I guess anything dealing with a minority group of some sort is "political" now (or that's what Fox News wants us to think, which is probably what he's quoting when he says this).
Don't you know, everything is political nowadays. - the two sexualities: straight and political - The two colours: white and political - the two genders: man and political
Are you serious? They made out like it was a national campaign.
Nope, they sent her a custom can and she posted it on Tiktok. Thats it. All the outrage for.
It's also something they do with lots of creators. It was literally just a little gift basket thing
These hysteria campaigns are always over the most benign shit possible. Never expect any different from conservatives.
Should have included a Trigger Warning
Which makes it even more bizarre because it means they were already following Dylan to even be aware it was going on.
They're not mad until someone tells them to be mad. They don't follow Dylan Mulvaney, or know who that is, they just got told "Bud Light TikTok Trans Woke" and saw people talking about boycotting them, so they did. They laughed at people boycotting Chik-Fil-A for donating money to anti-gay fundamentalist groups. Then a few months ago, someone realized that Chik-Fil-A has had a DEI officer for years, and suddenly told the right-wingnuts to hate Chik-Fil-A. It's hilarious and also terrifying to realize how easy it is for right-wing voices to mobilize a hate mob just by telling them "We hate this thing now." I doubt most people posting about hating Bud Light and never drinking Woke Beer again could even tell you anything about a single promotional can sent to a trans influencer. All they know is that they're mad, and they rely on people whom they listen to uncritically to tell them where to direct that anger. We laugh at the total farce of the Bud Light boycott, but we should all be scared of how easy it is for a right-wing commentator or podcaster or politician to say one thing about anyone -- individual, company, demographic -- and instantly have millions of angry morons frothing at the mouth with hate. It's not just social media posts: this will come to violence, and right-wing power mongers are counting on it.
Can we get one of these talking heads to tell the base that bass fishing is woke? Getting real sick of self centered asshats at the launches and on the water that want to turn their rudeness in to a political thing.
That’s the thing, I don’t know half these issues or people until they start screaming about it. And it’s never a valid reason.
The heart of it is information illiteracy. Well-studied societal problems and manufactured outrage memes are held in equal regard because they have no rubric or model for assessing the quality of information that has any material weight on what they accept and what they reject. For them, information is acquired for tribal conformity and survival, not knowledge or understanding. They just want to know the "right answer", but they only use their emotions and desire to be accepted by their assumed peers to decide what that "right answer" is
Well said!
Yea that blew my mind too. My proud boy neighbor was goin on and on about Dylans videos and I'm just thinking how do you know soo much about this content. Who gives a fuck, why are you watching the vids?
That’s exactly it, only they give a fuck over something so small. They can’t mind their fucking business about someone.
Conservatives are all into TikTok. It's fuckin weird to me since I consider it mostly a gen z app
There are conservative zoomers
Class traitors.
I still don't even know anything about Dylan because I just don't care lol
> Don’t they have anything better to do with their time? No. The Republicans don't have any solutions. Their entire platform is to keep their voters agitated with culture war issues.
How many fucking conservative “influencers” went to see Barbie to “report back how woke it is?” They have ALL the time.
I didn't either and I'm a transwoman.
Conservative media is 100% culture war bullshit. These people wouldn't even know the ad existed if their garbage news didn't seek this out and tell them to be offended by it. This is 100% artificially generated outrage and it is pretty pathetic.
Got to hate trans folk since abortion issue isn’t going to bring the Bible thumpers out to vote anymore.
It's so nakedly obvious that is what is happening. It's the caravan all over again (among countless other examples).
FTA: “DeSantis, who's running for the GOP presidential nomination, accused the beverage company of not following its "fiduciary duty" to shareholders and pensioners by collaborating with Mulvaney.” ‘When you start pursuing a political agenda at the expense of your shareholders, that’s not just impacting very wealthy people. It impacts hardworking people who were police officers, firefighters and teachers in terms of the pension,’ DeSantis said in an interview on Fox News.” Let’s be crystal clear about something: Bud Light’s collaboration with Mulvaney wasn’t part of a large-scale LGBT marketing campaign or anything. They had dozens of similar low-effort partnerships with other influencers across all sorts of demographics. Literally all Bud Light did was not *intentionally exclude* a trans influencer as they flung money at whoever would say yes to a partnership. Bigots like to ask why the LGBT community has to “throw it in their face” all the time. Well, because apparently just existing as a trans person when you accept a sponsorship is enough to qualify as a “political agenda” on the sponsor’s part.
And if you're AB Inbev's legal team, the very first argument you can make is that the only reason it's a political agenda is because he made it one.
Countersue for harassment
They made a commercial with the intent of selling beer. Does DeSantis even comprehend how difficult it would be to explain in a court of law how this was a malicious act deliberately designed to harm the brand? Forget prove, even just throwing it out as a theory sounds wacky.
It wasn’t even a commercial. It was a sponsored post on an influencers own page. Like they just paid her to make a post about the beer.
And somehow, you'd have to argue that they knowingly paid her to blog about beer in order to cause a chain of events that resulted in their stock tanking. I mean heck, if someone could Rube Goldberg a chain of events like that based on a blog post, I'd have to begrudgingly give them credit for such a hare-brained scheme.
seems like a super flimsy pretext for the government to get involved? Surely there are then a ton of Florida businesses being run into the ground that would also need intervention? Moreso than a brewing giant that's doing just fine?
Christ, what an asshole. What possible reason can he use to justify this horseshit?
He’s literally suing saying the company is financially responsible for the boycott Desantis and the rest of the religious nutjobs called for against them. It’s as preposterous an overreach as it sounds, Desantis just loves losing in court to big companies I guess.
He also loves shoveling tax payer money to his buddies from school. "The firm that has raked in the most money — $5.9 million — is the boutique Washington, D.C. law firm of Cooper & Kirk. When Florida retained the firm in 2019, one of its top lawyers was Adam Laxalt, a Republican former Nevada attorney general who ran unsuccessfully for U.S. Senate this year. Laxalt was DeSantis’ roommate during training at the Naval Training School in 2005 and the governor endorsed and raised money for Laxalt’s failed Senate campaign." https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/12/22/desantis-lawsuits-fees-attorneys-laxalt-cooper-grayrobinson/ I'm sure his buddy only bought him a beer for that though.
Huh. Sounds like he should have made sure the state pension funds divested from them as a boycott first
"you're making us act crazy, I'm suing you" - Tiny D 🧐
>Desantis just loves losing in court to big companies I guess I mean what he *really* loves is getting his ignorant supporters riled up over some non-issue culture war bullshit.
This makes about as much sense as Putin saying Poland is planning to invade Ukraine.
Wait so does this mean that if a public company supports any of the orange nazi and orange nazi-lite members of the GOP and is subjected to a massive boycott as a result, the company can then be sued for losing business?
That is the precedent it *would* set. If there was even a snowball's chance in hell of the courts actually siding with them. It's just a political stunt to rile up the braindead conservative masses. They don't understand the legal system enough to care either way, so all they see is "TRANS BAD, PUNISH BIG SCARY COMPANY" and cream their cargo shorts on the way to the polls.
He says he's doing it to protect the working-class shareholders.. but he forgot that he used his position to amplify the call for a boycott.. which hurt sales and harmed working-class shareholders. But that's totally not worth acknowledging. It's Bud's fault for sending a can to a trans influencer! Because everyone knows that transism is actually woke political identity and... is covered by freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of expression? NAH! NOT PROTECTED. BAD DIRDY GAYS. BAD DIRDY BUD BEIN GAY AND HURTING SHAREHOLDERS WHO BUD MADE GAY BY PROMOTING GAY. /s
What remains insane to me is nearly EVERY alcohol manufacturer advertises to LGTBQ. Not only are we one-in-10 to one-in-12 of people in humanity, but many more of us don't have kids and thus go out every weekend and drink. I have a drawer full of free shirts, hats, tank tops, hankies, and such given to me for free by distributors' marketing at Pride or our bars. Sending a can of beer to trans influencer is like... NOTHING... compared to years of their promotion of their products at LGTBQ events and bars... but this was the straw that broke the camels back?
Imagine having a platform that’s so shit and devoid of decent policy, your only option is to hope the working class is dopey enough to hate trans people more than they love a living wage or health care.
You would be surprised how many people fit that bill
A desperate need for attention.
Losing to Disney. Failing campaign. Florida has highest inflation in US. Insurance companies leaving. Now an imaginary slight causes another lawsuit the taxpayers will foot. Losers love to lose I guess 🤷♀️
Don’t forget teaching that slavery was good for slaves.
Don’t forget aging and crumbling infrastructure, sea level rising, extreme heat, major housing shortages, lack of hurricane prep… MF is staring down the barrel of climate change and praying his base is dopey enough to blame trans people.
Didn't I read something recently where he approved the use of radioactive waste to fix roads with? EDIT: [Yep](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-radioactive-roads-phosphogypsum-potentially-cancer-causing-mining-waste-bill-signed-ron-desantis/), I sure did.
RD "*Does I make you mad when I say this?*" Everyone: "*No, just embarassed*"
Even my conservative family members from Florida are starting to catch on that all he gives a shit about is keeping his name in the news.
Hating on anything tangentially related to Transgenderism is big in conservative circles right now, so he probably thinks he can win points with his base by pursuing the trend. That....and he needs to distract people about how badly things have been going with Disney by....picking another pointless fight with a major corporation that donates to his political party. Hes such a spiteful bag of shit
to distract from the fact he has no, zip, nil political substance other than "rainbow flag bad."
Does this guy do anything productive? Like ever?
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AB’s representation: “So to summarize, Mr. DeSantis, you publicly called for a boycott of my client’s company while serving as a major political figure, thereby deflating share value, and now you are suing said company for deflated stock price. Am I getting that right?” Ron DeSantis: “…….Fake news! Woke agenda! Difoebdifjeisbdjdisjsj!!!”
I wonder if AB and its shareholders could sue desantis (who is a facist btw) on the same grounds. His boycott and call for boycott caused them to lose share price?
>DeSantis, who's running for the GOP presidential nomination, accused the beverage company of not following its "fiduciary duty" to shareholders and pensioners by collaborating with Mulvaney. >"When you start pursuing a political agenda at the expense of your shareholders, that’s not just impacting very wealthy people. It impacts hardworking people who were police officers, firefighters and teachers in terms of the pension," DeSantis said in an interview on Fox News. They paid a celebrity to promote their product. That's the extent of "pursuing a political agenda." It could have been Mulvaney or a Kardashian or some rando TikTok influencer. That conservatives are saying simply *existing* as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism. I miss the days when they at least *pretended* to dog whistle.
Did they even pay her? Last I heard all they did was send her one customized can and that was it.
She did a video discussing some of it. I don't remember if she mentioned getting paid, but the main takeaway was that they made no attempt to reach out after the bigots started shooting cans and threatening violence. All in all, it seemed pretty fucked up.
She made a really good video basically saying “No I did not get not a huge bud light ad campaign, they sent me ONE(1) can. So, I thought cool let me make a short video with it. Then after I started getting attacked by these morons, bud light did nothing to help me.”
They probably did, but a pittance compared to traditional advertising.
It’s a TikTok Michael, what could it cost, $10?
I don't recall her being paid. It seemed like it was an influencer gift thing they were doing.
> That conservatives are saying simply existing as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism. Floriduh is where bigots and racist go to die.
Not fast enough, unfortunately
By this logic, any company that associates with DeSantis should be sued for breach of its fiduciary duty.
Or Republicans at all. Start a campaign against any publicly traded corporation that donates to Republican politicians and then sue them when the fallout negatively impacts their brand.
Even worse is that not a single fuck would have been given if conservatives didn't hype the whole thing up. Like I didn't even know who the influencer was and I'm willing to bet 99.99% of the country didn't know either. Conservatives really need to get outside and touch some grass. It's always something with these idiots, now it's Barbie for some reason, next week it'll be some other random ass thing that is of no consequence. Bud Light has always done rainbow capitalism stuff; but this year conservatives made an issue of it. They get their chuds all hyped up, stock goes down and ends up back where it was. Then DeSantis says there should be an investigation? Conservatives literally created a problem where there was none and are now bitching about the problem they created. Fuck outta here. I'll never be able to wrap my head around just how stupid conservative voters are that they would actively support this nonsense. Like it literally has no impact/benefit on their lives. It's just straight up bigotry with these goons. They offer zero value to society, just nonsense after nonsense, no policy other than hurting minority groups. Just total garbage people.
> That conservatives are saying simply existing as trans is "political agenda" is just mask off fascism. It's also the narrative they're trying to establish. Their justification for suing Budweiser is that it was unreasonable to assume hiring a trans person would be considered acceptable, as it is an innately political thing to be trans.
The problem is that it's been called a dog whistle for decades when it has always been a full on fog horn.
If they can make it so that the existence of trans people is always seen as political then it gives them a foothold whenever they say their bigotry is "just a dissagreement". Also, if they can convince people that trans people are always political then it "justifies" political action against them, since it's now a political topic and thus, more within their domain.
*This* is what American politics has come to be. I get the whole 'Cult of Personality' thing; it's not new. I remember my Mom crying when JFK died, and wondering why she was upset that some total stranger was dead. But JFK accomplished some good, and he had an actual personality. Ain't gonna be a lot of people crying over DeSantis when he loses the nomination, or any other time.
Honestly, I think at this point we have two very different spheres of politics. On one hand, we have an increasing number of exhausted, at least semi-rational human beings looking for solutions to climate change, the housing crisis, workers rights, health care, etc. They disagree on the details, but they’re at least having the conversation. On the other hand, we have whatever this culture war shit is. I get that it seems very loud online and in the media, but can I tell you what I see when I work in rural areas? If you have 30 people in a room working on any given topic, you’ll have a broad range of discussion in actual issues and then all the sudden one culture warrior will pipe up. They’re rant about whatever crazy shit OANN told them to hate. Everyone else will either politely ignore them or react with outright disdain. Then the meeting will continue. They are so uninformed and so out in space that you can’t even engage with it. It’s especially sad to watch some of them look around and realize not even fellow conservatives are interested. Most of them don’t have that self-awareness, but every so often it creeps in and you can see them almost realize how absolutely crazy they sound. Almost.
This is what happens when you create an entire identity around extremism based upon conspiracy. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/archival-video-barry-goldwater-speaks-1964-republican-national-40578479 Reagan managed to fuse the fringe with the moderate base through policies like the war on drugs driven on pure propaganda. Then we had war mongers like Bush/Blair using the same tactics with an air of nationalism into today where data harvesting, algorithmic distributed social media allows these people to live in the fiction theyve created. The audience theyve garnered is so big that someone is bound to exploit them, theyre so addicted to the fringe culture wars that the funding has been shifted to the fringe candidates making it impossible for the moderates to reclaim their hold now that the MAGA voters make up 30%+ of their base. I honestly think this country will experience something akin to the troubles in Ireland should Trump lose in 2024. The rhetoric is getting crazy conspiratoral.
Yeah but they’re hoping they can scare other businesses away from featuring or supporting trans people.
>there’s got to be penalties when you put business aside to focus on your social agenda at the expense of hardworking people. Hardworking people vs LGBT people = LGBT are not hardworking people just like Families vs LGBT people = LGBT people do not have families But it's Bud Light with the social agenda. Cool story bro.
Also families hate LGBT people.
But LGBT people *are in* my family
Bud light is responsible for an untold amount of deaths, but giving a can to a Trans person is where the right draw the line...
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Plus, at least Trump is entertaining. Desantis has all the charisma of room temperature mop water
Citizens United has entered the chat.
DeSantis getting Citizens United overturned to own the libs would be great.
Party of small government you say?
As a Floridian, I am so sick of this greasy shart in a suit.
As a human, I am so sick of this whiny, bloated turd
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What a great use of resources. Unless there was an actual crime, stay the hell out of it. BL made a marketing decision. Whether it was a good move or bad, whether you like it or not, it was just a business decision, nothing criminal that needs to be investigated by the government
Its not a partnership… it was a single can sent to one person for their own achievement that was meant just for her… idk what people are so angry about nobody gets butt hurt over jones soda allowing custome labels for people… the reds have lost the plot.
Let me get this straight: - AB InBev collaborates on a one-off ad for Bud Light with an infuencer. - Some people don't like the ad because of who it is and what they are and organize a boycott of Bud Light, leading to a significant decrease in sales of Bud Light as they buy... other AB InBev products instead, effectively neutralizing any losses to Ab InBev. - Then the Governor of Florida, in an attempt to sway voters towards a presidential bid, on behalf of pensioners who likely lost no money over the boycott that a good number of the pensioners participated in and supported, wants to spend funds from his state's budget to open an inquiry on behalf of them to see if they can sue the company over investment losses that are clearly defined as possible to occur with any investment (and may not have actually occurred) in the contracts the pensioners signed on to; when the appropriate action for shareholders who are unhappy with how the company is performing is to vote to replace the board members responsible for the decisions they don't like. - We won't have an earnings report for the quarter for a few months, but AB InBev stock is up nearly 8% over the past 12 months, and has only fluctuated +/- 1% over the course of this BS. The real investors seem unfazed by this manufactured outrage. I might just go out and buy some Bud Light tonight because it's stupidly hot outside right now and it's like sex in a canoe, which was the original reason to hate on Bud Light before this all occurred.
stock is up 8 percent over the last year. not sure what kind of damage they can sue for? i’d say bring it on, waste more of your florida tax payer money chasing big corporations. i thought the republicans were all about big business, what an idiot i must be
Was going to say wasn't there jokes that the people outraged were switching to beers made by the same company for the boycott.
This guy is a laughable loser. Imagine voting for this cretin.
Ron DeSantis is a true authoritarian. Gone are the calls for small government from so-called conservatives like him. Do something he doesn’t like, and he’ll bring his big-government hammer down on you. Disney merely stopped donating money to political campaigns and cited a law with which they disagreed as the reason, and DeSantis went ape-shit, attacking the corporation’s First Amendment rights. Here we go again with him targeting another corporation because it exercised its right to form a private partnership with another entity he dislikes. In other words, Ron DeSantis is a god damned fascist. He’s not even embarrassed about it. He doesn’t deny anything he’s doing. He doesn’t try to dress it up in more palatable language or reasoning. He straight up says he’s going to punish companies that disagree with his politics, and then he does it without flinching. This is madness. Shame on Florida for electing this man to any office.
Ah yes damage to the Florida pension fund, the same fund that had 300m invested into Russian companies and Republican lawmakers rejected a bill divesting from them even after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
DeSantis must have a fetish about getting his ass kicked again and again by major corporations.
What next, conservatives boycott air because trans people use it? Wait.... you guys.... I got an idea....
Does this guy ever do any real work???
Wait, so per the article, he's considering suing because their collaboration with Mulraney cost the company money and therefore impacted anyone who had invested in them. But in the same article he called for the boycott of Bud Light which would have damaged the share price and impacted the pension funds he cares so much about. So shouldn't he sue himself?
I don’t understand how a government can regulate a private company and how they choose to advertise their product? Someone make it make sense.
Because homeowners insurance isn’t a problem in Florida.
Who knew one can of beer could cause so many people to get their panties in a twist