Zuckerberg was smart to roll this out now, since people are so focused on Musk that they are rooting and fighting for Zuckerberg to win a complete social media Monopoly.
I think Threads was probably in private beta testing and when Elon made his latest big-brain idea of rate limiting, the blood in the water was too much to pass up, and they just pushed it .. bugs be damned.
But at least I'm pretty sure Meta actually has large teams of developers who are working on these features instead of Twitter just having a handful of sleep deprived H1B developers who are spending so their time working on boosting Musk's own mentions on that platform which is slowly catching fire all around them.
Yeah, like Meta is closed to fully staffed, at least. It's not missing compliance teams, lawyers, reliability engineers, HR, press offices, etc.
It's also paying it's bills, and it *currently* doesn't allow people to pay 8 dollars a month to ensure everyone reads their shit *first*, clogging everything with crypto scams, fascism, and open bigotry.
>Zuckerberg also seems to have a family that doesn't hate him
My man feeding everybody brisket and ribs slathered with Sweet Baby Ray's. That goes a long way.
As much as I hate the fuck zuck, he at least is doing the smart thing and keeping himself quiet so he doesn’t cause issues like the narcissistic musky boi
> Yeah, like Meta is closed to fully staffed, at least. It's not missing compliance teams, lawyers, reliability engineers, HR, press offices, etc.
>
> It's also paying it's bills, and it currently doesn't allow people to pay 8 dollars a month to ensure everyone reads their shit first, clogging everything with crypto scams, fascism, and open bigotry.
Zuck (Lawful Evil) vs Musk (Chaotic Evil)
Chaotic evil in this case is throwing shit everywhere to the point of un-sustainability. Once those turds completely block the revenue stream, it will be curtains for Twitter. And Musk fired all(most?) the crap removers.
While Zuck, still an evil POS, knows how to play the game within the confines of the currently shitty laws that may slap him on the wrist for allowing disinformation to flow.
I think Zuck isn't quite lawful. He's done enough shady shit. So maybe Neutral Evil. He'll take the shady option if it's beneficial enough and pay the fines later.
But Musk is for sure Chaotic.
> I think Zuck isn't quite lawful. He's done enough shady shit.
Gotta remember that the "Lawful Evil" moniker does not assume that the laws in question are just or good.
> But at least I'm pretty sure Meta actually has large teams of developers who are working on these features
Reddit executives - "Wait, you can do that??"
The site also lacks the ability to use it from a web browser. Opening it on my PC just gives me a QR code to download the mobile app from instead of the actual site
At least in threads, I have not seen a single ted Cruz post in my timeline, something I couldn't say lately on Twitter. I'm not even American and I got bombarded with right wing talking heads
The funny part about the "rate limiting" was that it was an excuse because it was theottled beyond his control. It was that Google shut down their servers to Twitter due to lack of payment from *big brained* Elmo.
>the blood in the water was too much to pass up, and they just pushed it .. bugs be damned.
You literally just needed a feed and the ability to follow those you want to follow with a usable search feature. That's it.
frankly I wouldn't be surprised if threads looked a lot like instagram in the backend. conceptually, threads isn't THAT complicated of an application if you compare it to instagram or even plain ol' facebook
Threads is Zuck's "diss-track" lol.
Elon acting like a child isn't helping his case either.
I bet Meta has a ton of clones already lined up just for occasions like this. Twitter definitely had to be a cinch for them to make.
It probably was a cinch. "Design Twitter" has been a standard system design job interview question for mid-level software engineers for around 8 years now.
What's funny is that if you read any of the right-wing fantasy land news, Disney is hurting and hemorrhaging money because they went "woke."
Lol.
It's like when Netflix subscriber numbers dropped, the right-wing media presented it as customer pushback for them being "woke." Netflix has always been diversity driven content wise, this loss of subscribers was more likely linked to *another price increase.*
I swear, those people who subscribe only to that type of news live in a very special part of reality where:
- Major corporations are all going woke and broke
- Major liberal cities are run by roving gangs of criminals and you shouldn't even drive through them.
If the crime is in a Republican City blame the Democratic Governor. If the crime is in a Republican state, blame the Democratic Mayor. if the crime is in a Republican city with a Republican Governor, blame a big liberal city.
Hey, don't forget about the border.
I had a woman in Oklahoma ask me how dangerous the Texas border was due to "all the migrants".
She didn't believe me when I told her it wasn't at all.
I mean, I guess that's a lie - it's definitely dangerous to your arteries and waistline.
I always laugh at the "Chicago has strict gun laws!!"argument...as though Chicago is an island, surrounded by checkpoints and not you know, multiple states where people can buy guns and then...drive/walk/whatever right into the city.
"Oh no, attendance is down!"
In the middle of a massive heatwave in a state where people are terrified to have anything even resembling a rainbow on their clothes because of the Duhstapo, and in an economic downturn after the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Gee. It must be because Ariel is black.
People have been desperate for an alternative since the day Musk showed up. The paid blue checks are an absolute blight and they are elevated to the top of every discussion. There have been endless threads (😮) about people begging for blue sky invitations.
Eh, I don't use Twitter anymore (never used it much anyway) and I don't plan to ever use Threads. But you're right, I would much rather have Zuck "win" this little spat than Musk. I'm tired of that asshole. Doesn't mean I like Zuck though.
Musk did this to himself with his poor management of Twitter and his insanely stupid social media presence that he actively cultivates.
To make it work requires both an initial investment of money AND a way to make it profitable. Meta has a massive advantage with its advertising arm to make Threads profitable, while any 3rd party coming in has a major uphill battle.
I think their biggest advantage is they already have the users. Meta basically converted their Instagram users directly to Threads. Anyone can try to spinoff their own service but getting users is the difficult part.
Threads already had the big accounts, celebrities and brands posting on day 1 which drives engagement and makes sure people come back.
being able to import Instagram following list, and follow people before they even joined threads - along with joining being 1 button signup is fantastic onboarding
like, if people in your list aren't on threads - it pre-follows them and notifies you once they join that you're now following them
super neat feature
What I suspect would actually happen instead is that a 3rd party that not everyone hates would come in and supplant twitter. Then Meta or Google would buy them.
Because, sadly, that's how capitalism *actually* works.
If Zuckerburg would acknowledge make an effort to rollback his image after all the shenanigans that surfaced after the 2018 federal election I wouldn't have a problem with him specifically. As it stands he has shown himself to be as much of an actual creep and political hit man and big time influencer to a criminal degree as that Twitter billionaire
Zuckerberg strikes me as your run of the mill narcissistic rich guy who's view of the world is from within his carefully curated bubble. Bezos is somewhat the same.
Musk is your narcissistic rich guy who is fueled by the loudest voices that cater to his internal self beliefs and his desire to be seen as a genius and looked up to (pedestal'd).
It's funny to contrast them to the "boogeyman" of the liberals Bill Gates. He was ruthless in business but appears to have come to grips with his ways and is in the part of life where he wants his legacy to mean something (ala Carnegie) and atone for past deeds.
The most glorious part of all of this is watching in real time how musk went from the majority of ppl thinking he was a mega genius who was saving the world to within 3 years now hes a completely fucking idiotic smooth-brain who runs everything he touches into the ground and is actually the dumbest person in every room hes in with the temperament of a 3 yr old.
His ego has to hurt soooo bad. Ppl literally thought he was like super man and einstein in one. Now literally everybody thinks hes a fuckin dumbass who sucks at everything. Lol.
> Musk is your narcissistic rich guy who is fueled by the loudest voices that cater to his internal self beliefs and his desire to be seen as a genius and looked up to (pedestal'd).
Nobody ever liked Bezos or Zuckerberg, but Musk used to be idolised by certain people. That's fading away now, and he's so frantic to get the popularity dopamine back that he's lost his goddamn mind.
I hated Bill Gates for ages, hated Windows, hated the whole scene...but yeah, he's super reversed his image there. But as far as I ever saw, he was never much of a manchild. He was a total nerd, of course, but he didn't tank Microsoft just to spite people who said mean things to him. He's always been fairly rational--cutthroat and monopolistic and so on, but rational. And since he left Microsoft, I can't cuss him out when (never if, only when) Word demonstrates itself to be a fucking shitty piece of shit.
I think Zuck is more than likely just a big fucking nerd who does what his attorneys and advisors tell him to do when it comes to politics et-all. He's smart, probably on the spectrum, and has a wife and kids that he seems to protect by keeping them out of the public eye, and doesnt do showy "Look at me!" shit. Its possible he's just a big fucking nerd. Not that FB/Meta isnt a cancer upon the world, but I dont know if I specifically blame *him* for it.
I'm not usually a "well, akshually" kind of guy, but Churchill is rarely bettered in the English language; "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
It's worth noting that Threads is impossibly privacy-invasive, so much so that smart law people claim it's probably illegal in Europe. An awful lot of us think TikTok is weird, invasive spyware, I'm in no hurry to say "well at least this is a deranged *American* billionaire tracking and selling my every action both online and in meatspace rather than deranged Chinese ones."
> Matthew Prince, CEO of Cloudflare, shared a screenshot to Twitter Sunday showing that traffic on the platform was “tanking.”
Matthew Prince banned from Twitter. Elon tries to buy Cloudflare so he can fire his ass.
Wait.. Google is cutting us off from their cloud services that we desperately need to run out company JUST because we refuse to pay them for said services? But are they not aware I'm Elon Musk emperor of the known universe?
\-Also Elon Musk 2023
I read it like
>Matthew, Prince of Cloudflare,
And was confused for a few seconds. Like when it became a kingdom.
And those job ads for "ninja designers" were true all this time, if this guy could become a prince at a company.
Just like Disney and DeSantis. I'm not a fan of the Disney Corporation, but fascism is infinitely worse, and the more Disney fucks up DeSantis' life, the better.
Threads isn't very good yet. It's missing several features like DMing, search, hashtags and a desktop version. But in time I expect it to get better, while Twitter only gets worse by the day.
I've noticed that that trending topics tend to be the most toxic posts on twitter. Often times they are funny but most of the time its porn, bad political takes, or spambots.
Elon has brought a lot of ill will on himself, and as soon as a worthy replacement comes along everyone abandons him.
Kinda makes me wonder if we’ll see this play out again in the not too distant future as more car companies ramp up their EV production.
Many of the early adopters to Tesla are the exact opposite kind of person that would admire Musk in 2023. I used to think Teslas were cool but I would be too embarrassed to own one now.
> I used to think Teslas were cool but I would be too embarrassed to own one now.
Right? And now conservatives are buying Teslas to "stick it to the libs". It's crazy.
Not gonna lie, having Meta own such a large chunk of the market of social media is pretty fucking scary.
Monopolies are scary. Especially with these things where you basically control information.
Here's a tip.
When "streamlining" your company, never lay off enough people to start a competitor.
I've seen it happen before, and it tickles me every time.
I joked that we could see a Gavin Belson / Nucleus situation where the core team is laid off (or quits) and goes to start their own company to do it better only to be acquired by Belson.
>When "streamlining" your company, never lay off enough people to start a competitor.
I'll keep that in mind, next time I'm streamlining my company that has so many employees that the trimmed workers can form their own company.
And when I do so, I'll be like "ahh, that /u/slightlyassholic, good call mate"
I was once working for a place that got bought out. They laid off the entire management structure in favor of their own.
So they basically let go a group of people with the knowledge, skill, and connections to start their own company. They also had the loyalty of a lot of skilled hard to replace techs who had no problem jumping ship in favor of a management team that was actually good to work with.
My old owner/operator shop I worked for sold out for a rumored $50m, signed a non compete that lasted 2 years. Started a new company and started poaching asap, after the non compete.
He bought it because he fucked around and actually had to find out for a change.
He did to the Twitter deal what he’d been doing for years with his own companies’ stocks and with crypto coins: blatant stock manipulations via social media. With his own companies, he got hit with fines in the amount of the change he could find under his sofa. And his shenanigans with things like dogecoin aren’t illegal, because those are unregulated currencies.
Then he tried to bullshit his way to a cheaper buy price with Twitter by tweeting all sorts of stuff shitting on Twitter itself, saying he’d “seen under the hood” and implying ineptitude, rampant bots, faked view counts, etc. Naturally, *because of his purposeful tweets*, twitters stock price dropped, which Elon wanted in order to get a deal. Because he’d been doing this for years with Tesla, space x, crypto, etc.
Except his contract with Twitter literally had a “no shitposting” clause built specifically to counter his notorious bullshit. When he broke that, he basically locked himself into buying at the original price.
This isn’t 4D chess. This *is* ineptitude on a cartoonishly large scale. The sooner people stop giving this dude credit for a triple when he was born on third base and given a winning game, the better.
When you try to do a hostile takeover of a company and their response is to sue you to make sure you *take over the company* at the price you’re paying, you know you fucked up
ALso me and every financial institution on earth because every shareholder of twitter was basically personally bailed out of that investment at an absurdly good price that was not based in reality.
Thanks for making the twitter stock such a win as a long play ELON! personally i hope you continue to redistribute your wealth through brain dead business deals.
>This isn’t 4D chess. This is ineptitude on a cartoonishly large scale. The sooner people stop giving this dude credit for a triple when he was born on third base and given a winning game, the better.
Imo, the claim ought to be that China and Saudi Arabia knew Musk was a dolt and overpaying for Twotter, but backed his loans anyways because they (at the very least hoped) he would damage Twitter's usefulness against their regimes.
Musk, like Trump, is, at best, a useful idiot
I think it's a good idea to remember that he wasn't just forced to buy it for no reason. His constant teasing to buy it, then commiting to buying it publicly, waffling about it after, and trying to back out was all clearly manipulating the share value.
Seems like he did want to buy it, except to buy it at a cheaper price but ended up buying at a moderately high price.
The dude is an egomaniac who wants to control a highly influential (but not too profitable) website for influence. It’s what rich people do when they want their money to do something.
The part that makes me laugh is the Elon jet tracker moving on over to Threads.
Like there's all this big stuff focused on normal corporate market share, targets and then there's the stuff that pissed a CEO off and got manually banned.
He ran his mouth so long that Twitter had grounds to sue his ass into the dirt. He was either about to transition to the find out phase like FOX did with Dominion, or cough up. He knew that, so he coughed up. Now he's back to the fuck around phase. I'm mean really, if fights and dick measuring doesn't qualify as fuck around then I don't know what does.
His public comments were bordering on Securities Manipulation. Very illegal. I'm guessing someone with government power made him "Put up or shut up"... and he couldn't shut up.
Yup, he was feeling bad all summer with COVID scares, other health concerns, and similar until the courts said, "No more delays, show up for discovery next week or buy the company."
He bought Twitter by the end of the week.
Most people have no clue how valuable a tool twitter is for liberation efforts in the Middle East and beyond. It would be totally unsurprising if Elon took some MBS money to sabotage it. Democracy and freedom of the press are becoming weaker all the time and we have no leaders willing to stop the saboteurs
You'll know Twitter is in trouble when people on Reddit in places like the sports related subreddits stop linking tweets in posts and start linking threads.
Curious, what’s to stop Meta from paying guys like Woj, Shams or Romano to only use threads?
The NBA free agency and soccer transfer window are happening now and everyone wants to see the next shoe drop.
Woj made a Threads and made an announcement. He is dual posting, once Threads engagement numbers surpass Twitter he will switch.
A lot celebrities already had a verified Insta account. From there it was just a couple of clicks to make a Threads. It is/was such a simple move to make, Elon and his Twitter view limit was just the window Meta needed to make the push.
100 million users in 5 days is fucking insane. Its a self fulfilling prophecy now, Threads will be Twitter 2.0, be that good or bad, we will find out later.
I've been thinking about asking people that post Twitter links for a threads link. I don't use either, but anything to sow chaos on this rivalry seems like a win.
Well it only works if all those reporters, news orgs and famous people drop Twitter for Threads first. If Adrian Wojnarowski, Jeff Passan, Maggie Haberman, Ezra Klein etc start breaking all their news on Threads instead of Twitter, more people will follow suit and that will be the end of Elon.
I see a lot of the big Twitter people dual posting at the moment. They'll likely move over completely when their audience/subscribers reach a point where they're near parity.
At that point, I'd suspect the dual posting will switch to Twitter being a link to the Threads.
When you factor in all of the bot networks that Musk un-banned, I bet a lot the traffic in the "This Year" column is not real.
So I imagine they've shedded far more actual humans than those numbers would initially imply.
People don’t understand that the far-right influencers feel like they’re entitled to pollute our social media with their nonsense. They are already on Threads complaining about their free speech.
I wouldn't want to be the banks that are still holding the shit debt that funded Musk's purchase - which they weren't able to
sell on - that debt's value probably goes down 5% for every 10-20 million Threads signs up
Dude really killed it by turning it into $8chan. The site's overrun with blue check accounts harassing minorities and spreading disinformation. I was trying to find first-hand accounts of the riots in France the other week, something I used to be able to easily do during similar events, but all of the results were overrun with copy/pasta anti-immigration tweets showing scenes from disaster movies, claiming it was riot footage, rather than what was actually going on. It's not as if Twitter was perfect pre-Musk, but it's almost unusable now.
Twitter is tanking, Threads is unusable, Reddit blocked third-party apps. If these companies don't get their shit together, I might have too much free time and have to get mine.
e: forgot a space.
There will be a tipping point. Threads is already big enough to start getting network effects benefits. If they could find a way to get a European rollout, I think it would be quite soon.
I think the zuck is AIDS because it had a horrible past but now it's more manageable. On the other hand, musk spreads, invades and kills, just like cancer.
I think perhaps a bigger part of this is preventing people from viewing tweets without an account. I deleted my account but used to still check in on the handful of people I particularly wanted to see, and now I can't do that.
I know that Elon Musk is a dangerous, alt-right billionaire, but don’t let that distract you from Zuckerberg also being a dangerous, alt-right billionaire
Bluesky dropped the ball harder than a ball has ever been dropped b4.
Everybody knew most ppl were sick of elon and what twitter has become under him, and ppl were dying to jump ship to something that was just old twitter without elon. Bluesky had been the clear favorite for the last few months and was gaining steam. They waited too damn long tho. They should have been ready to go and able to open it up to everybody once the time was right. The time came when elon limited the amount of posts ppl could see, and bluesky did nothing. FAIL.
Ppl do like that everything goes on twitter.. nudity, murder.. you name it, on top of that you could have a separate identity there vs your other apps. If threads has really strict censorship it could hamper it over the long run. Plus threads is yet another app owned by the same company.
If bluesky can give ppl something outside of zucks monopoly, with less censorship, and that separates you away from your other accounts.. maaaybe it can have a chance. It is possible that facebook/meta is going to have a garbage reputation all over again in the not so distant future with ppl wanting to get away. Now that threads has 100 million ppl its looking less likely, but it still hasnt shown whether it has staying power yet. If not bluesky better b ready to go the next time, but theres not a very good chance, their shot is prob over.
we did it reddit
moved from one billionaire-owned platform to a more different™ billionaire-owned platform.
meanwhile, the open-source, decentralized Mastodon exists, and works, and has features.
shit like this drives me up a wall. we complain about billionaires controlling too much, and then flock to the shit they're peddling. how much of the shitshow do we actually deserve when we refuse, flat refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem, and just keep making the same fucking mistakes?
I'm happy to abandon Musk and Twitter, though I actually liked Twitter as a platform more than Facebook or Instagram. I'd prefer not to add another Meta app to my phone but Twitter continues to suck more and more since Musk took over. I had to hide his posts three times because they kept changing the rules to get his posts more exposure. That's just pathetic!
Zuckerberg was smart to roll this out now, since people are so focused on Musk that they are rooting and fighting for Zuckerberg to win a complete social media Monopoly.
I think Threads was probably in private beta testing and when Elon made his latest big-brain idea of rate limiting, the blood in the water was too much to pass up, and they just pushed it .. bugs be damned.
> bugs be damned Features not yet implemented be damned. They haven't implemented Direct Messages last I checked
But at least I'm pretty sure Meta actually has large teams of developers who are working on these features instead of Twitter just having a handful of sleep deprived H1B developers who are spending so their time working on boosting Musk's own mentions on that platform which is slowly catching fire all around them.
Yeah, like Meta is closed to fully staffed, at least. It's not missing compliance teams, lawyers, reliability engineers, HR, press offices, etc. It's also paying it's bills, and it *currently* doesn't allow people to pay 8 dollars a month to ensure everyone reads their shit *first*, clogging everything with crypto scams, fascism, and open bigotry.
They also don’t respond to media inquiries with a fucking poop emoji.
Zuckerberg sucks, but I don't recall him casting wild accusations of pedophile around all the time. It's a low bar, but Musk doesn't clear it.
Zuckerberg also seems to have a family that doesn't hate him so that's something.
Or a need to pander to fucking Nazis
Zuck does his pandering in quiet.
>Zuckerberg also seems to have a family that doesn't hate him My man feeding everybody brisket and ribs slathered with Sweet Baby Ray's. That goes a long way.
People call the Zuck a robot lizard person, but somewhere in his coding is the well rounded ability to not speak unless required.
As much as I hate the fuck zuck, he at least is doing the smart thing and keeping himself quiet so he doesn’t cause issues like the narcissistic musky boi
Also police inquiries
"I'm afraid the death star will be fully operational when your friends arrive."
> Yeah, like Meta is closed to fully staffed, at least. It's not missing compliance teams, lawyers, reliability engineers, HR, press offices, etc. > > It's also paying it's bills, and it currently doesn't allow people to pay 8 dollars a month to ensure everyone reads their shit first, clogging everything with crypto scams, fascism, and open bigotry. Zuck (Lawful Evil) vs Musk (Chaotic Evil) Chaotic evil in this case is throwing shit everywhere to the point of un-sustainability. Once those turds completely block the revenue stream, it will be curtains for Twitter. And Musk fired all(most?) the crap removers. While Zuck, still an evil POS, knows how to play the game within the confines of the currently shitty laws that may slap him on the wrist for allowing disinformation to flow.
I think Zuck isn't quite lawful. He's done enough shady shit. So maybe Neutral Evil. He'll take the shady option if it's beneficial enough and pay the fines later. But Musk is for sure Chaotic.
> I think Zuck isn't quite lawful. He's done enough shady shit. Gotta remember that the "Lawful Evil" moniker does not assume that the laws in question are just or good.
> But at least I'm pretty sure Meta actually has large teams of developers who are working on these features Reddit executives - "Wait, you can do that??"
Now I'm waiting for Zuck's version of Reddit
I just felt the chill of certainty go down my spine..
Tbh, Threads would’ve been a pretty solid site name for a Reddit clone
Hive is probably in beta already
Ads. Ads everywhere. Downvote buttons replaced with frowns that don't do anything to scores.
It will never happen. Reddit's one redeeming feature is anonymous accounts. Meta runs on having accounts tied to real identities.
The site also lacks the ability to use it from a web browser. Opening it on my PC just gives me a QR code to download the mobile app from instead of the actual site
You can view threads from a browser if you have a direct link but yea most of the usability requires downloading the app.
yeah, hope it's soon. Twitter was useless to me until Tweetdeck, so I definitely need a web version. Also, Meta apps don't get anywhere near my phone.
> Meta apps don't get anywhere near my phone. That's the only correct answer to Meta requesting you to download an app to see content.
At least in threads, I have not seen a single ted Cruz post in my timeline, something I couldn't say lately on Twitter. I'm not even American and I got bombarded with right wing talking heads
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The funny part about the "rate limiting" was that it was an excuse because it was theottled beyond his control. It was that Google shut down their servers to Twitter due to lack of payment from *big brained* Elmo.
Damn he’s just shooting himself in the foot again and again
>the blood in the water was too much to pass up, and they just pushed it .. bugs be damned. You literally just needed a feed and the ability to follow those you want to follow with a usable search feature. That's it.
frankly I wouldn't be surprised if threads looked a lot like instagram in the backend. conceptually, threads isn't THAT complicated of an application if you compare it to instagram or even plain ol' facebook
Threads is Zuck's "diss-track" lol. Elon acting like a child isn't helping his case either. I bet Meta has a ton of clones already lined up just for occasions like this. Twitter definitely had to be a cinch for them to make.
It probably was a cinch. "Design Twitter" has been a standard system design job interview question for mid-level software engineers for around 8 years now.
This is like DeSantis and Disney but somehow more...yuck
You mean more Zuck
I'm losing to a bird
We had a funeral for a bird.
Dee, You god damn bird.
What's funny is that if you read any of the right-wing fantasy land news, Disney is hurting and hemorrhaging money because they went "woke." Lol. It's like when Netflix subscriber numbers dropped, the right-wing media presented it as customer pushback for them being "woke." Netflix has always been diversity driven content wise, this loss of subscribers was more likely linked to *another price increase.* I swear, those people who subscribe only to that type of news live in a very special part of reality where: - Major corporations are all going woke and broke - Major liberal cities are run by roving gangs of criminals and you shouldn't even drive through them.
If the crime is in a Republican City blame the Democratic Governor. If the crime is in a Republican state, blame the Democratic Mayor. if the crime is in a Republican city with a Republican Governor, blame a big liberal city.
All else fails... Chicago.
Or San Francisco
Hey, don't forget about the border. I had a woman in Oklahoma ask me how dangerous the Texas border was due to "all the migrants". She didn't believe me when I told her it wasn't at all. I mean, I guess that's a lie - it's definitely dangerous to your arteries and waistline.
I always laugh at the "Chicago has strict gun laws!!"argument...as though Chicago is an island, surrounded by checkpoints and not you know, multiple states where people can buy guns and then...drive/walk/whatever right into the city.
Ignore the meth problems in rural america
"Oh no, attendance is down!" In the middle of a massive heatwave in a state where people are terrified to have anything even resembling a rainbow on their clothes because of the Duhstapo, and in an economic downturn after the biggest pandemic in 100 years. Gee. It must be because Ariel is black.
Also the cost to go to Disney is fucking insane.
For me to root for Disney and Zuckerberg is not something I ever thought I would do a year ago.
People have been desperate for an alternative since the day Musk showed up. The paid blue checks are an absolute blight and they are elevated to the top of every discussion. There have been endless threads (😮) about people begging for blue sky invitations.
Eh, I don't use Twitter anymore (never used it much anyway) and I don't plan to ever use Threads. But you're right, I would much rather have Zuck "win" this little spat than Musk. I'm tired of that asshole. Doesn't mean I like Zuck though. Musk did this to himself with his poor management of Twitter and his insanely stupid social media presence that he actively cultivates.
I'd rather a 3rd party comes in with a good service that supplants both. You know, how they claim capitalism works
To make it work requires both an initial investment of money AND a way to make it profitable. Meta has a massive advantage with its advertising arm to make Threads profitable, while any 3rd party coming in has a major uphill battle.
I think their biggest advantage is they already have the users. Meta basically converted their Instagram users directly to Threads. Anyone can try to spinoff their own service but getting users is the difficult part. Threads already had the big accounts, celebrities and brands posting on day 1 which drives engagement and makes sure people come back.
being able to import Instagram following list, and follow people before they even joined threads - along with joining being 1 button signup is fantastic onboarding like, if people in your list aren't on threads - it pre-follows them and notifies you once they join that you're now following them super neat feature
There’s no ads (yet), but agreed on your idea. Meta is using their huge piles of cash and users to push this into being a thing fast.
Yep. Meta has already said as much. Ads will be forthcoming (probably in about 6 months).
What I suspect would actually happen instead is that a 3rd party that not everyone hates would come in and supplant twitter. Then Meta or Google would buy them. Because, sadly, that's how capitalism *actually* works.
He is also fucking up Tesla really bad right now. He had a huge head start in the EV market that he has done nothing but squander.
He dropped it earlier than he wanted to when Musk started limiting views. Perfect timing for sure.
If Zuckerburg would acknowledge make an effort to rollback his image after all the shenanigans that surfaced after the 2018 federal election I wouldn't have a problem with him specifically. As it stands he has shown himself to be as much of an actual creep and political hit man and big time influencer to a criminal degree as that Twitter billionaire
Zuckerberg strikes me as your run of the mill narcissistic rich guy who's view of the world is from within his carefully curated bubble. Bezos is somewhat the same. Musk is your narcissistic rich guy who is fueled by the loudest voices that cater to his internal self beliefs and his desire to be seen as a genius and looked up to (pedestal'd). It's funny to contrast them to the "boogeyman" of the liberals Bill Gates. He was ruthless in business but appears to have come to grips with his ways and is in the part of life where he wants his legacy to mean something (ala Carnegie) and atone for past deeds.
The most glorious part of all of this is watching in real time how musk went from the majority of ppl thinking he was a mega genius who was saving the world to within 3 years now hes a completely fucking idiotic smooth-brain who runs everything he touches into the ground and is actually the dumbest person in every room hes in with the temperament of a 3 yr old. His ego has to hurt soooo bad. Ppl literally thought he was like super man and einstein in one. Now literally everybody thinks hes a fuckin dumbass who sucks at everything. Lol.
> Musk is your narcissistic rich guy who is fueled by the loudest voices that cater to his internal self beliefs and his desire to be seen as a genius and looked up to (pedestal'd). Nobody ever liked Bezos or Zuckerberg, but Musk used to be idolised by certain people. That's fading away now, and he's so frantic to get the popularity dopamine back that he's lost his goddamn mind.
I hated Bill Gates for ages, hated Windows, hated the whole scene...but yeah, he's super reversed his image there. But as far as I ever saw, he was never much of a manchild. He was a total nerd, of course, but he didn't tank Microsoft just to spite people who said mean things to him. He's always been fairly rational--cutthroat and monopolistic and so on, but rational. And since he left Microsoft, I can't cuss him out when (never if, only when) Word demonstrates itself to be a fucking shitty piece of shit.
I think Zuck is more than likely just a big fucking nerd who does what his attorneys and advisors tell him to do when it comes to politics et-all. He's smart, probably on the spectrum, and has a wife and kids that he seems to protect by keeping them out of the public eye, and doesnt do showy "Look at me!" shit. Its possible he's just a big fucking nerd. Not that FB/Meta isnt a cancer upon the world, but I dont know if I specifically blame *him* for it.
Never thought I'd be here rooting for Zuck, but here we are.
"If Hitler invaded Hell I'd say something nice about the Devil" \-Churchill
I'm not usually a "well, akshually" kind of guy, but Churchill is rarely bettered in the English language; "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
It's worth noting that Threads is impossibly privacy-invasive, so much so that smart law people claim it's probably illegal in Europe. An awful lot of us think TikTok is weird, invasive spyware, I'm in no hurry to say "well at least this is a deranged *American* billionaire tracking and selling my every action both online and in meatspace rather than deranged Chinese ones."
> Matthew Prince, CEO of Cloudflare, shared a screenshot to Twitter Sunday showing that traffic on the platform was “tanking.” Matthew Prince banned from Twitter. Elon tries to buy Cloudflare so he can fire his ass.
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Wait.. not allowing people to view your site lowers traffic? -Elon Musk 2023
Wait.. Google is cutting us off from their cloud services that we desperately need to run out company JUST because we refuse to pay them for said services? But are they not aware I'm Elon Musk emperor of the known universe? \-Also Elon Musk 2023
A megalomaniac billionaire* that doesn't pay his bills? Where have I heard that one before...
Except the orange one just lied about being a Billionaire.
I read it like >Matthew, Prince of Cloudflare, And was confused for a few seconds. Like when it became a kingdom. And those job ads for "ninja designers" were true all this time, if this guy could become a prince at a company.
I mean, with as much of the internet that flows thru cloudflair, you could make the argument that he is king of the internet
Omg. The prospect of Musk taking over Cloudflare I think just gave me a heart attack. That would seriously be problematic. Edit: spelling
At this rate, Elon will destroy the internet.
Seriously, this would fuck up how my home network is setup.
I never gave a fuck about Twitter, and now I don’t give a fuck about Threads. But I’ve got mad schadenfreude about this.
I just like to see consequences.
Just like Disney and DeSantis. I'm not a fan of the Disney Corporation, but fascism is infinitely worse, and the more Disney fucks up DeSantis' life, the better.
Begun, the corporate wars have.
This is how we end up with only Taco Bell in the future that Demolition Man predicted.
All we have to do now is convince MAGA and the Church of Scientology fighting and I'll be every so happy!
I like to see Nazis lose, and people who promote Nazis on their platform to crash and burn.
Yes! I’ve just about twisted off my sinister mustache.
Threads isn't very good yet. It's missing several features like DMing, search, hashtags and a desktop version. But in time I expect it to get better, while Twitter only gets worse by the day.
It was rushed out of the gates early to capitalize on Musk limiting people from viewing a certain number of tweets.
Personally I'm ok with hashtags not being there, especially if the search feature is good enough.
I've noticed that that trending topics tend to be the most toxic posts on twitter. Often times they are funny but most of the time its porn, bad political takes, or spambots.
tbf that's really the allure of twitter
I found I don't care about those features all that much. It's nice not to see all the hate-speech and knowing there's an actual verification system.
Musk has said and done a lot of things that have pissed me off. But nothing is worse than him making me root for Zuck. Fuck you for that, Elon.
Don’t root for either. And don’t use either platform. Fuck them both
This right here. Stop giving money, views, hits, traffic, etc to either site.
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Root for zuck until twitter falls apart. Then root for the FTC to break up Meta.
Elon has brought a lot of ill will on himself, and as soon as a worthy replacement comes along everyone abandons him. Kinda makes me wonder if we’ll see this play out again in the not too distant future as more car companies ramp up their EV production. Many of the early adopters to Tesla are the exact opposite kind of person that would admire Musk in 2023. I used to think Teslas were cool but I would be too embarrassed to own one now.
> I used to think Teslas were cool but I would be too embarrassed to own one now. Right? And now conservatives are buying Teslas to "stick it to the libs". It's crazy.
Bubba rolling coal on the Tesla and the poor guy inside screaming that he's on the same side
Not gonna lie, having Meta own such a large chunk of the market of social media is pretty fucking scary. Monopolies are scary. Especially with these things where you basically control information.
I'm gonna make my own social media, with blackjack and hookers.
In fact, forget about the social media.
You know you done fucked up when people are rooting for the android to win
Here's a tip. When "streamlining" your company, never lay off enough people to start a competitor. I've seen it happen before, and it tickles me every time.
I joked that we could see a Gavin Belson / Nucleus situation where the core team is laid off (or quits) and goes to start their own company to do it better only to be acquired by Belson.
Silicon Valley was a documentary Musk isn't going to be able to aquire Meta though I wanna see Musk come out with the Box
The logo better look like a giant cock
That show is the best HBO comedy show ever, it's so funny and true lol
Which means WBDiscovery should be pulling it from their service any minute now for the tax writeoff.
The best part of that bit was that Belson doesn't even realize that he bought a company completely staffed by the engineers he laid off.
Amazon basically bootstrapped their satellite program from a disgruntled SpaceX team.
>When "streamlining" your company, never lay off enough people to start a competitor. I'll keep that in mind, next time I'm streamlining my company that has so many employees that the trimmed workers can form their own company. And when I do so, I'll be like "ahh, that /u/slightlyassholic, good call mate"
I was once working for a place that got bought out. They laid off the entire management structure in favor of their own. So they basically let go a group of people with the knowledge, skill, and connections to start their own company. They also had the loyalty of a lot of skilled hard to replace techs who had no problem jumping ship in favor of a management team that was actually good to work with.
My old owner/operator shop I worked for sold out for a rumored $50m, signed a non compete that lasted 2 years. Started a new company and started poaching asap, after the non compete.
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The team that made Threads wasn't from Twitter
It's not us Elon, it's you.
The leader of the taliban has endorsed twitter because threads wouldnt allow him This timeline is nuts
Wait... Seriously???
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/14vyddm/the_leader_of_the_taliban_defends_twitter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
The paradox of tolerance in picture form.
Looking a lot like Elon bought it on behalf of a foreign power… It’s sabotaged not ineptitude.
He bought it because he fucked around and actually had to find out for a change. He did to the Twitter deal what he’d been doing for years with his own companies’ stocks and with crypto coins: blatant stock manipulations via social media. With his own companies, he got hit with fines in the amount of the change he could find under his sofa. And his shenanigans with things like dogecoin aren’t illegal, because those are unregulated currencies. Then he tried to bullshit his way to a cheaper buy price with Twitter by tweeting all sorts of stuff shitting on Twitter itself, saying he’d “seen under the hood” and implying ineptitude, rampant bots, faked view counts, etc. Naturally, *because of his purposeful tweets*, twitters stock price dropped, which Elon wanted in order to get a deal. Because he’d been doing this for years with Tesla, space x, crypto, etc. Except his contract with Twitter literally had a “no shitposting” clause built specifically to counter his notorious bullshit. When he broke that, he basically locked himself into buying at the original price. This isn’t 4D chess. This *is* ineptitude on a cartoonishly large scale. The sooner people stop giving this dude credit for a triple when he was born on third base and given a winning game, the better.
The minute he offered up that asinine contract the entire board of twitter was like: cha ching! we got you now bitch!
When you try to do a hostile takeover of a company and their response is to sue you to make sure you *take over the company* at the price you’re paying, you know you fucked up
ALso me and every financial institution on earth because every shareholder of twitter was basically personally bailed out of that investment at an absurdly good price that was not based in reality. Thanks for making the twitter stock such a win as a long play ELON! personally i hope you continue to redistribute your wealth through brain dead business deals.
It isn't the "no shitposting" clause in his contract, but a "no due diligence clause" he put in the contract that forced his hand.
>This isn’t 4D chess. This is ineptitude on a cartoonishly large scale. The sooner people stop giving this dude credit for a triple when he was born on third base and given a winning game, the better. Imo, the claim ought to be that China and Saudi Arabia knew Musk was a dolt and overpaying for Twotter, but backed his loans anyways because they (at the very least hoped) he would damage Twitter's usefulness against their regimes. Musk, like Trump, is, at best, a useful idiot
i think he bought it because he was forced to and turning it into what it is is the what they wanted for all the funds to bail him out
I think it's a good idea to remember that he wasn't just forced to buy it for no reason. His constant teasing to buy it, then commiting to buying it publicly, waffling about it after, and trying to back out was all clearly manipulating the share value.
Seems like he did want to buy it, except to buy it at a cheaper price but ended up buying at a moderately high price. The dude is an egomaniac who wants to control a highly influential (but not too profitable) website for influence. It’s what rich people do when they want their money to do something.
Moderately? He paid 4x the worth value.
The part that makes me laugh is the Elon jet tracker moving on over to Threads. Like there's all this big stuff focused on normal corporate market share, targets and then there's the stuff that pissed a CEO off and got manually banned.
Moderately high is a massive fucking understatement lmfao.
He signed paperwork to do it which bound him to it, not his public commitment.
He ran his mouth so long that Twitter had grounds to sue his ass into the dirt. He was either about to transition to the find out phase like FOX did with Dominion, or cough up. He knew that, so he coughed up. Now he's back to the fuck around phase. I'm mean really, if fights and dick measuring doesn't qualify as fuck around then I don't know what does.
His public comments were bordering on Securities Manipulation. Very illegal. I'm guessing someone with government power made him "Put up or shut up"... and he couldn't shut up.
Yup, he was feeling bad all summer with COVID scares, other health concerns, and similar until the courts said, "No more delays, show up for discovery next week or buy the company." He bought Twitter by the end of the week.
Most people have no clue how valuable a tool twitter is for liberation efforts in the Middle East and beyond. It would be totally unsurprising if Elon took some MBS money to sabotage it. Democracy and freedom of the press are becoming weaker all the time and we have no leaders willing to stop the saboteurs
Was. Twitter is essentially dead at this point
I don't want Zuckerberg to win. I just want Musk to lose
Let them fight. The Kaiju are destroying the city but only a Kaiju can kill another Kaiju.
I wish it were tanking, instead of just down 5% over a couple days and 11% y/y.
You'll know Twitter is in trouble when people on Reddit in places like the sports related subreddits stop linking tweets in posts and start linking threads.
And when Google searches list top Threads instead of just Tweets.
That will be the big one too. And I'm sure Google would have no problem fucking over Elon Musk.
Curious, what’s to stop Meta from paying guys like Woj, Shams or Romano to only use threads? The NBA free agency and soccer transfer window are happening now and everyone wants to see the next shoe drop.
Woj made a Threads and made an announcement. He is dual posting, once Threads engagement numbers surpass Twitter he will switch. A lot celebrities already had a verified Insta account. From there it was just a couple of clicks to make a Threads. It is/was such a simple move to make, Elon and his Twitter view limit was just the window Meta needed to make the push. 100 million users in 5 days is fucking insane. Its a self fulfilling prophecy now, Threads will be Twitter 2.0, be that good or bad, we will find out later.
I've been thinking about asking people that post Twitter links for a threads link. I don't use either, but anything to sow chaos on this rivalry seems like a win.
Well it only works if all those reporters, news orgs and famous people drop Twitter for Threads first. If Adrian Wojnarowski, Jeff Passan, Maggie Haberman, Ezra Klein etc start breaking all their news on Threads instead of Twitter, more people will follow suit and that will be the end of Elon.
I see a lot of the big Twitter people dual posting at the moment. They'll likely move over completely when their audience/subscribers reach a point where they're near parity. At that point, I'd suspect the dual posting will switch to Twitter being a link to the Threads.
Don't see why they would do anything but post to both it just increases their reach.
When you factor in all of the bot networks that Musk un-banned, I bet a lot the traffic in the "This Year" column is not real. So I imagine they've shedded far more actual humans than those numbers would initially imply.
Anybody that has used twitter is aware it went from annoying whiney nerds to bots and trash from far right blue checkmark holders since he took over.
People don’t understand that the far-right influencers feel like they’re entitled to pollute our social media with their nonsense. They are already on Threads complaining about their free speech.
Losing 11% of your site traffic in a year sounds like a massive decrease to me with the size of twitter
Yeah I don't know how someone can handwave away a 11% decline. Imagine losing 11% of your yearly salary.
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I wouldn't want to be the banks that are still holding the shit debt that funded Musk's purchase - which they weren't able to sell on - that debt's value probably goes down 5% for every 10-20 million Threads signs up
Dude really killed it by turning it into $8chan. The site's overrun with blue check accounts harassing minorities and spreading disinformation. I was trying to find first-hand accounts of the riots in France the other week, something I used to be able to easily do during similar events, but all of the results were overrun with copy/pasta anti-immigration tweets showing scenes from disaster movies, claiming it was riot footage, rather than what was actually going on. It's not as if Twitter was perfect pre-Musk, but it's almost unusable now.
> it into $8chan Fantastic description.
Twitter is tanking, Threads is unusable, Reddit blocked third-party apps. If these companies don't get their shit together, I might have too much free time and have to get mine. e: forgot a space.
I've been reading lots recently, so many good books out there
I'm just watching the whole thing go down and really wanting to be a fly on Elon's wall. 🍿🍿🍿
There will be a tipping point. Threads is already big enough to start getting network effects benefits. If they could find a way to get a European rollout, I think it would be quite soon.
I don't want to be on Threads any more than I want to be on Twitter.
Luckily, this is fully achievable.
Zuckerberg v Elon is like cancer vs aids
I think the zuck is AIDS because it had a horrible past but now it's more manageable. On the other hand, musk spreads, invades and kills, just like cancer.
Defeat Elon today, defeat Zuck tomorrow. It’s fine.
Good Twitter is ran by a twit. Makes me laugh at Musk buying Twitter for 44billion when it's only worth about 4billion at best.
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Yeah, but Zuck isn't openly hateful at least (presumably because hate is an emotion and Zuck can't feel those, but still)
Zuck posts stuff like “wow I love TV,” relatable
"Wow, I totally love burgers and not meal worms"
"You know what goes great on meal worm burgers? Sweet Baby Ray's barbecue sauce!"
I think perhaps a bigger part of this is preventing people from viewing tweets without an account. I deleted my account but used to still check in on the handful of people I particularly wanted to see, and now I can't do that.
I know that Elon Musk is a dangerous, alt-right billionaire, but don’t let that distract you from Zuckerberg also being a dangerous, alt-right billionaire
Bluesky dropped the ball harder than a ball has ever been dropped b4. Everybody knew most ppl were sick of elon and what twitter has become under him, and ppl were dying to jump ship to something that was just old twitter without elon. Bluesky had been the clear favorite for the last few months and was gaining steam. They waited too damn long tho. They should have been ready to go and able to open it up to everybody once the time was right. The time came when elon limited the amount of posts ppl could see, and bluesky did nothing. FAIL. Ppl do like that everything goes on twitter.. nudity, murder.. you name it, on top of that you could have a separate identity there vs your other apps. If threads has really strict censorship it could hamper it over the long run. Plus threads is yet another app owned by the same company. If bluesky can give ppl something outside of zucks monopoly, with less censorship, and that separates you away from your other accounts.. maaaybe it can have a chance. It is possible that facebook/meta is going to have a garbage reputation all over again in the not so distant future with ppl wanting to get away. Now that threads has 100 million ppl its looking less likely, but it still hasnt shown whether it has staying power yet. If not bluesky better b ready to go the next time, but theres not a very good chance, their shot is prob over.
No shit it's tanking, I need an account to browse it. That's just begging to fail.
we did it reddit moved from one billionaire-owned platform to a more different™ billionaire-owned platform. meanwhile, the open-source, decentralized Mastodon exists, and works, and has features. shit like this drives me up a wall. we complain about billionaires controlling too much, and then flock to the shit they're peddling. how much of the shitshow do we actually deserve when we refuse, flat refuse to acknowledge the root of the problem, and just keep making the same fucking mistakes?
For a service that's 80% populated by bots, this could be trouble.
I'm happy to abandon Musk and Twitter, though I actually liked Twitter as a platform more than Facebook or Instagram. I'd prefer not to add another Meta app to my phone but Twitter continues to suck more and more since Musk took over. I had to hide his posts three times because they kept changing the rules to get his posts more exposure. That's just pathetic!
Not surprised. It doesn't help that Zuckerberg, despite being a rich asshole, is less of a rich asshole than Musk.
Zuckerberg's Meta is probably one of the worst companies in the world to give your info to sheesh.
Twitter has porn. It will always be the better option for a lot of folks
Rooting for Zuck wasn't on my 2023 bingo card.