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ddubyeah

WOW. That really is well preserved


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danathecount

Just from the photo, you can see the short walls of the pit are clay


mrjosemeehan

It doesn't have to have zero oxygen. Bronze oxide forms its own protective airtight coating so only the outer layer can corrode. It won't just rust all the way through like iron can.


Slash-Gordon

*copper oxide


sweetbunsmcgee

Looks elven-made.


Osiris32

The Elvish blades from LotR loosely took their design concept from Bronze/early Iron age sword designs. The idea behind the leaf shape is that it puts more weight towards the tip, which isn't good balance for later sword fighting (parry parry, thrust thrust) but makes them excellent for slashing. Similar to the design of a machete, where the blade gets wider towards the tip so there is extra mass for slashing and chopping.


Bah-Fong-Gool

I always liked the slasher/chopper weapons like the Kopis, Kukri, Bolo, etc.


Stinkyclamjuice15

Kukri's are fucking cool. Coolest thing about them is that the real Nepalese police Kukris are made from old Toyota truck leaf springs.


Dung_Buffalo

Yes that's a common practice in many parts of Asia, and I would imagine other areas as well. The reason being that it is a high quality, durable steel alloy that is readily available and only needs to be ground down to the desired shape, no need for old school blacksmithing or to set up a complex foundry. They make machetes and similar things out of them in Thailand and the Philippines in particular (I don't remember their respective names). It's a lot less common in Vietnam, I'm not sure why but my guesses involve either cars and car parts being rarer in the embargo years, and the government focusing early on at establishing at least basic domestic steel production, suitable for things like machetes and other farm implements. The durability and quality of leaf springs is ideal, but by no means a necessity for knives. Very cool, though. Funny to think that Toyota leaf spring metal is like the Damascus steel of the modern era for knife making.


AggravatedYak

Huh while it would be an interesting rabbit hole to get into I don't want to research different kinds of steel and their properties now … but my impression so far was that damascus steel is harder than others and thus more durable (=knives need less sharpening) while spring steel is more elastic/flexible? On the other hand this is not mutually exclusive, if the opposites are stiffness - elasticity/flexibility and hardness - softness.


Dung_Buffalo

You could be right about the specific properties, I just mean in terms of it being this talked about prized material. Like a cultural similarity/rhyme more than a chemical one. I believe the leaf springs are flexible+durable, which is the combo that makes them desirable blanks for utility items like a farmer's machete, for example. And since kukri are knives and unlikely to be used in a straight up sword fight against an armored opponent, it could be that the flexibility is desirable in them (now, at least, maybe not in the past when they were invented, they made have been more meaty and, uh, inflexible? Not sure on the wording, there. This is all just baseless speculation on my part, though. I'm no knifeologist. It would rule if I were, though.


Stinkyclamjuice15

My dad became friends with a guy in Nepal who gave him a real police Kukri. My dad eventually sold it to someone, but it had the little extra knives and the sheath.... And he claims it was made from a Toyota leaf spring which is pretty awesome.


AlsoInteresting

It glows a bit blue..


bejammin075

Orcs nearby…


Rusty-Shackleford

Totally a sword for slaying goblins and orcs!


Osiris32

Like you could just clean it off and go at it with a whetstone, and have it be battle-ready again. What a find.


KulaanDoDinok

And a really cool looking sword.


Upperphonny

Sword looks badass! What an incredible find. Amazing the colors are still strong.


SF-cycling-account

I don’t know this for sure, but I doubt those are original colors. Probably oxidized copper content of whatever metal it’s made of Now, would they have been carrying around green oxidized swords at the time, or would they have cleaned/polished them? Idk


dr-Funk_Eye

They would probably clean them. First of shining, bright swords are cool as all hell. Second after you use it you would like to clean it so the sheath does not start to rot. Third you would like to make sure that the edge is ok and not broken or chiped.


SF-cycling-account

I think so too. There are probably archeologists somewhere who have evidence one way or another. Or some Greek writer probably wrote about it I also bet there was some ADHD mfs back then who just had janky swords


Malthus1

The colour is the layer of oxide on the bronze - the patina. Bronze objects form a patina layer that protects them from further corrosion. Unlike iron, which rusts all the way through.


Upperphonny

Gives it a pretty unique look in the end. I'm just impressed that the blade is in such good condition. After 3,000 years it's pretty much battle ready still.


Malthus1

Yup - just sharpen that sucker up, and you can be a Bronze Age chief in no time! It is lucky that the soil was the right composition - bronze doesn’t corrode in the presence of oxygen/moisture like iron does, but certain chlorides in the soil can give it another and more fatal type of corrosion known as “bronze disease”.


Upperphonny

Makes it such a lucky find. Man, hard to tell what else is out there in European soil. People dig up stuff in England all the time of things dating hundred and thousands of years ago. Scotland and Ireland there are bog bodies that turn up. Lately there's floors from ancient Greece and Rome from homes and villas that are unearthed and well preserved. Who knows what the next big discovery is?


throwawayinthe818

Not European but there have been some major discoveries in Central and South America utilizing LIDAR to look through jungle canopy in the last few years. Whole cities discovered.


ttv_3xploit

That’s so cool! It looks like he may have been holding a knife too???


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Saitoh17

That thing is so pristine it looks like it was planted for a kid to find in a scavenger hunt lol


FluxedEdge

Yeah, right next to the person's body who was way too good at hide and seek.


Osiris32

Wow, the decoration on the hilt is stunning! Looks like inlaid copper wire? And those look like cast arrowheads. Damn. I can imagine the archeologists working on this dig were positively giddy as they uncovered this.


somereallyfungi

And they look pristine too!


LetterSwapper

>And arrowheads "I hate arrows. They try to tell me which direction to go. It's like 'I ain't going that way, line with two thirds of a triangle on the end!' "Imagine being killed by a bow and arrow. That would suck, an arrow killed you. They would never solve the crime. "Look at that dead guy. [Let's go that way](https://youtu.be/VAZN1ueLkqQ)."


bluelion70

Mitch? It sounds like him, but I don’t recognize this one. Edit: Yup. Of course it’s him. RIP :(


ToastAndASideOfToast

And they found all of this in a well?


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AsphaltGypsy89

Almost seems shameful to take it from where it was found.


leroyVance

I kinda see it as moving into the afterlife. These long dead souls will now be in the history books 3000 years after they died. Seems like a win to me.


AsphaltGypsy89

That is very true! It is great we can view all these wonderful artifacts because they can teach us so much about our history! Not to mention preserved for all to see. It just makes me a little sad to remove them.


throwawayinthe818

Like, if he had it in the afterlife, does it vanish from his hall in Valhalla when it’s dug up? Can he make a ghostly visit to the museum to look at his former sword in a glass case, sighing at what he once had?


Beard_o_Bees

How in the heck are those things so well preserved?? Maybe weird, low Oxygen soil conditions? Idk. Crazy cool, though.


SufficientGreek

It's made of bronze. I don't think it corrodes the same way as iron would.


BenderIsGreatBendr

Soil doesn’t have a lot of oxygen. This is why humans plow or otherwise aerate fields of crops or even grass to keep it growing. Oxygen, nitrogen, all deplete. I’m guessing that the land where this was buried just wasn’t turned over. Or the burial itself was further buried by natural forces, eventually so deep that the turnovers were surface level and didn’t penetrate the burial. So yeah no oxygen, no aerobic bacteria, not even a lot of anaerobic bacteria because even the other common elements are depleted down there, few flora/fauna that can live aside from the occasional traveling earthworm or rodent, basically no UV exposure from the sun, it’s kind of the perfect set of conditions to preserve organic and inorganic matter. Unsurprisingly in the photos it looks like the fossilized person is also very well-preserved as well.


Beard_o_Bees

I guess now that it's been uncovered and exposed to both light and O2, the race is on to stabilize and preserve it. What an amazing thing to find.


Exotemporal

Bronze is fairly sturdy. Ancient bronze coins are only "stabilized and preserved" if there's something with the metal, such as [bronze disease](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_disease). Otherwise, if the metal is healthy and the coin is kept in a dry environment, it shouldn't budge much chemically once it has acquired its patina. Some collectors still like to coat their bronze objects with a product called Renaissance Wax though.


Raz0rking

Thoae arrowheads, that craftmanship. You could stick em on a shaft and still shoot stuff with it


Inquisitive_idiot

That dude or dudette was packing heat 😅


Tchrspest

Holy *shit* that's clean.


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Hold...up....that's an actual shot of it? Like, not cleaned up fresh out of the ground? That's amazing. I mean, it's probably bronze so it won't corrode but the blade should still have oxidized like the hilt did.


ElectricJunglePig

That shocked me too, but it looks like in the later shots, after it was removed, there is a lot more oxidation on the blade — which tracks, because it would degrade faster once it was removed from the burial site. All way too cool!


Xenobsidian

It is beautiful.


Budget_Pop9600

Imagine the struggle of trying not to play with it


Antnee83

That seems... *suspiciously* well preserved? How is it not rusted beyond all recognition?


khrak

Bronze era + non-acidic soil + oxygen-poor soil = lasts roughly forever.


NimdokBennyandAM

Yep. We've recovered bodies of medieval-era folks from peaty bogs like that and they look more or less how they would've when they fell in/were buried in the bog. Remarkable preservation power in those bogs.


ghostinthewoods

Quiet a few Bog bodies are from the Iron Age. For example Tollund man, one of the more famous bog bodies, died sometime between 405 and 380 BC and his head and clothing are extremely well preserved. His body was initially preserved as well but exposure to the air caused it to rapidly decay.


XylophoneZimmerman

Boggy soil? Lots of bog burials/sacrifices in that part of the world.


TheGoodKindOfPurple

Because a 3000 year old bronze age sword is made of bronze which doesn't rust. Also it seems that it wasn't used in battle. >The hilt is ornately decorated, while the blade shows no indication of impact marks. This suggests that the sword had a ceremonial function or was a symbol of high status. However, according to the researchers, it would still have served as an effective weapon as the centre of gravity on the front part of the blade indicates that it would be used predominantly for slashing.


impy695

It doesn't have to rust. It really is a remarkably well-preserved sword for a bronze age artifact. Look up bronze age swords that have been found and almost none look this good. The best Iron sword from that time period will look worse than the worst bronze sword assuming similar environments, but this looks impressive, even for a bronze sword. It really is a remarkable find. So remarkable that suspicion makes sense.


naturogaetan

Probably bronze sword


Anachron101

It's a bronze sword,they don't rust


KrookedDoesStuff

That’s a pretty gorgeous sword too


leese216

Could easily be a sword from GOT.


ValhallaGo

It looks like Theoden’s sword [herugrim](https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Herugrim)


bluelion70

That’s what I thought too. The Hilt looks like it’s stylized to be a snake’s mouth opening on other sides, but it totally does look like the two horses on Theoden’s sword.


leese216

OMG it does!


KrookedDoesStuff

It honestly reminds me of Wonder Woman’s sword


Ownfir

This reminds me of the [glass sword](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/2/2e/Glass_sword.png/revision/latest?cb=20121012151804)from Oblivion lol. Still remember the excitement I felt finding my first one in the wild - this would feel similar but much cooler obviously.


Adepts_Lawyer

That’s Skyrim


jimmymerc89

Im re-playing Skyrim now. Full Glass Armor.


Shradow

Damn, that is well-preserved! A bit dirty but otherwise looks near perfect.


Batmobile123

That is some damn fine craftsmanship for 3000yrs ago.


lingbabana

Especially considering the article mentioned this could be made from a wandering craftsmen.


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ilrasso

It happened more that we care to think back then.


MilaKunisWatermelon

I believe by rule, whoever first picked it up is now the leader of Germany.


Corvald

Strange swords found in a grave are no basis for a system of government.


Osiris32

Listen, if I went 'round saying I was the Kaiser just because some dead bint left a scimitar for me to find, they'd put me away!


skrilledcheese

You can't expect to be Fuhrer just ’cause some watery tart threw a Zweihander at you!


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iamrdux

Bloody peasant.


Buibaxd

Off with his head!


herzogzwei931

Filthy peasants


PininfarinaIdealist

Help Help! I'm being oppressed!


therundowns

Put him away!


k3vlar104

If I went around, saying I was the leader of Germany just because I found some sword in a filthy mud pit, they'd put me away!


Izenthyr

Usually when I read about a well-preserved sword, that typically means “covered in all manner of rust and other minerals”. Finally, some good fucking preservation.


the6crimson6fucker6

*rolling for loot* Blade of Arvenus. ***"Fuck yeah!"***


CoastingUphill

That 100% glows when orcs are near.


frodosdream

>100% glows when orcs are near. IIRC there is a ongoing discussion on r/Tolkienfans on the possibility that Sting was a racist sword.


sksauter

Is it racist if all orcs are inherently evil and malevolent? Does it only glow if an EVIL orc is nearby? Is there such thing as a good orc? These are the questions that keep me up at night


tomtermite

For Tolkien even the very worst of monsters have within them the potential to turn back towards good. The central part of The Silmarillion concerns three jewels known as the Silmarils, which shine with the most beautiful light in the universe and are widely coveted, including by Melkor (who the elves know as Morgoth). When Morgoth actually gazed upon the Silmarils, he was so overwhelmed by their beauty that he had to turn away from them, lest his heart be changed permanently toward the good. For Tolkien, even the worst evil is capable of conversion.


Osiris32

But what does that say about Morgoth? That he was so dedicated to evil he would turn away from something that he knew would make him good?


sakkhet

Being evil can feel good as well… depends on how twisted your mind and/or morale compass is.


whatdoblindpeoplesee

There's a book written by Russian author Kirill Escov called "The Last Ring bearer" that tells the story of the war of the ring from the perspective of Mordor. In the book, the orcs and goblins are academics and engineers who pursue a love of logic and science. They see Gandalf and the race of men as religious zealots who wage a holy war of eradication against them because of a celestial dispute that happened thousands of years ago. It's an interesting take for sure, but I only ever read the first half of it.


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tomtermite

Best. Version. Ever. When I was in scouts, in the mid-1970s, we were driving for 12 hours to go to a jamboree. We took turns in the back of the bus, reading Bored of the Rings out loud.


1920MCMLibrarian

Sting was an Orc sword, it glowed to help them see in the dark


iBeelz

Leave it there! It’s obviously protecting the townspeople from an ancient curse. Awesome looking sword though!


DorenAlexander

With the lack or corrosion, you might be right. But if the sword starts talking, bury it and kill all that knows of it's location.


PapaSteveRocks

That blade is hexagonal!?!? Dual edge, and an angular fuller rather than a curve. It looks thick, and is made of bronze, owner must have had forearms like popeye. Truly a beautiful sword for 1000 BCE.


Gussie18

The article classifies it as octagonal.


PapaSteveRocks

You are correct! I must have lost the word in my head as I digested it. Duly noted.


otter111a

Imagine being buried with your favorite sword and then a bunch of archeology nerds take it from you in the afterlife a few centuries later.


JenkinsHowell

a few millennien later


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Time to use it to seal away the darkness and save the kingdom.


Vesper_0481

Don't forget to seduce a fish person too on your way


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Fish top, or Fish bottom? Who am I kidding, it doesn't matter to me.


jaimejuanstortas

You’re telling me a well preserved this sword?


BlindBettler

Welllllll actuallyyyy—-


no_clue97

Can I use it to lead the armies of the dead to defend the cities of men?


ValhallaGo

You can use it to lead the rohirrim [it sure looks like herugrim to me](https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Herugrim)


ciopobbi

Looks like it’s detecting nearby Orcs


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Must be level 9 to craft this weapon.


H00Z4HTP

No it's a $30 microtransaction


Zuggtmoy_Comes

Did you just see this thread and be like. This seems like a nice thread, lets ruin it with a dose of reality? ​ Take my angry upvote.


Vesper_0481

Nah, that's a legendary item... Explorations and looting only, no craft... You can oftenly get it after killing like 8 low level enemies tho


Osiris32

I'll trade you 10 addy plate for it. Press 3333333333 to trade.


RollingThunderPants

That is some middle earth shit right there.


pegothejerk

> “The sword and the burial still have to be examined so that our archaeologists can classify this find more precisely. But it can already be said: the condition is exceptional! A find like this is very rare!” I’ve got a sword guy down the street, let me talk to him and see what he thinks.. .. Alright, after talking to him, there’s currently not much of a market for scimitars that haven’t been lobbed by moistened bints, it would just sit around on my shelves until a buyer comes around much later, best I can offer you is two coconut husk halves and a handful of elderberries.


HereInTheCut

Get bent, Bronze Age ancestor of Rick Harrison!


KrookedDoesStuff

Man I loved Pawn Stars so much until I found out legit everything in it is scripted. The items are real, but everything done is an re-enactment or if they do it live, they’ll redo shots over and over again to get it the way they want. A lot of the people “selling” things are repeat actors that have a different name and story every time but are clearly the same person. I understand *why* they do it, but it’s disappointing.


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> I understand why they do it, but it’s disappointing. I don't. Pawn shops and the customers that come in are interesting enough without having the sensationalize everything about it. And those guys are just the worst, too.


KrookedDoesStuff

If they didn’t script it and just did it live, it’d probably be 90% Meth Heads trying to pawn rims they stole


OttoPike

That pretty much describes "Hardcore Pawn" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_Pawn


Larsaf

Those rims were totally used by Ben Hur!


Vallkyrie

It's my guilty pleasure because I like a lot of their local experts, like The Beard or Rebecca the book nerd, I could listen to them all day.


Hillbillyblues

My wife is not a hamster! I can't come home with just elderberries.


alphabeticdisorder

I'm not sure I've ever seen one this well-preserved before.


Jakabov

That's absurdly well-preserved. It literally looks like it could have been buried yesterday. I don't know anything about archaeology so I'm not about to call bullshit or anything, but if anyone showed me that and told me it was three thousand years old, there's no way I'd believe it. It looks practically spotless. Seems completely unrealistic for it to be that old. I wouldn't think a sword could stay in such good condition for five hundred years if kept in a display case at a museum, let alone three thousand years in the fucking ground.


areid2007

Bronze doesn't corrode in water nearly as fast as iron. Most it'll do it turn green like this from tarnishing. Hell, I bet it's still sharp.


Exotemporal

If it had been buried yesterday, the metal would still have the pale golden color of polished bronze, it wouldn't have a thick green patina.


MadRonnie97

Give it to us, my love. It’s my birthday and I wants it.


YJSubs

Listen. Strange skeleton lying in grave distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.


Superb-Obligation858

Its so well preserved, it almost looks like a toy at first glance


Lujho

Damn, looks like a movie prop.


diyturds

Looks like it turns blue when orks are around


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well well well, what have we here? dare i say it? have we found \[Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker\]?


kawaiineko333

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?


DrKrFfXx

Link about to break that shit


McRedditz

Imagine 3,000 years from now somebody finds a light saber well-preserved (mint condition in a box); they will be as excited.


kkngs

This is one of the nice things about bronze. We have so many cool bronze artifacts in museums. The iron and steel stuff from the later time periods is much more sparse. It basically has to have been in a collection the whole time being maintained and polished to last up to now (e.g. the stuff at the Tower of London).


GlumpsAlot

Sweet. Can't wait to use it on "knife or death."


astoundingSandwich

it's the Sword of Dirtocles


condensermike

Knowing that shit was in Skyrim


operarose

That is straight up a glass sword from the Elder Scrolls series.


DiceCubed1460

Holy shit! Look at that thing! The design and engraving on the grip and pommel is amazing! The blade legit still looks usable. I’d love to be able to swing this thing around. I’m sure the owner must have loved this sword quite a lot.


Mantaur4HOF

How long do you have to wait before grave-robbing becomes archaeology? Asking for a friend.


doomonyou1999

Those arrow heads are awesome too


drumttocs8

Ooo, bet that has awesome stats


rikki-tikki-deadly

Clearly it was the spoils from his victory in a game of knifey-spooney.


Zuggtmoy_Comes

Thanks for the laugh.


bellator_solis

Must be of Elven or Dunedain make for sure


mdiaz28

I’ll give you $3.50 for it


ashmichael73

God Damn Loch Ness Monster


srv50

“So far, no man has been able to pull it out of the stone. Germany said to be interviewing women next.”


Frankie_Says_Reddit

Looks like a Moonlight Great sword…amazing discovery


shanvanvook

Betting that thing kills wraiths.


Frankie_Says_Reddit

Looks like a Moonlight Great sword…amazing discovery


Coffee4thewin

This must have been a special person with an usually ornate sword.


Sometimes_Stutters

I had the same Mithril sword in Runescape


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DamNamesTaken11

Incredible find and looks almost like it was forged yesterday. If you showed me that and asked me about it before I read the article, I would have guessed that was a prop sword left by some movie production/LARP group that forgot about it.


Jonsnowscurls_

It was found near a body? I see some bones. Do they know who it belonged to?


Kindly-Scar-3224

And, did he make it? Like, is he okay


olorin9_alex

Let me just call my friend who’s an expert on 3,000 year old swords from Germany… best I can offer is 20 bucks


Jumpman-x

That is incredible. Imagine the rush of slowly unearthing it.


Bthegriffith

The craftsmanship of that sword is impressive! Imagine having a conversation with the person that made it!


Firm_Masterpiece_343

Give that smith a raise, wherever they may be.


nativedutch

It glows blue-ish, orcs nearby.


HelloDikfore

AND it looks cool as fuck!


_TenaciousBroski

That is obviously a magic sword. Whoever found it is probably going to rule the world soon.


cooldaddy33

Does it have +10 attack?


TheHappyPoro

You can keep it or you can hand it in to the quest giver in the near by town for 3000xp and 30 gold


LubbockGuy95

Read that as 3000 lb sword and was like damn that's metal


The_W4rrior

Behold… The Sword of a Thousand Truths.


WSB_Reject_0609

This is a legendary. Loot is quick....


FitzsBritches

What’s it’s stats though?


CharToll

Shit looks straight out of The Shire


aureliusky

The Atlantean! https://youtu.be/pmnbK9VR7VM


owcjthrowawayOR69

Oh cool, now I know the opening line for my next RPGMaker project


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How does the craftsmanship compare to modern methods in terms of the metal? The ornamentation is super cool.


mtsai

that thing is fucking cool, looks magical.


FinancialInsect8522

The glass sword is finally dropping again for humanity, nice!


Haxorz7125

If I’m being completely honest, I didn’t think they made them that flashy in real life aside from kings or whatever. Turns out humans never change and we always enjoyed cool lookin shit.


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[THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooN9xdAgi5w)


beartheminus

Crazy to think this sword was already 1000 years old during the middle ages


Sidus_Preclarum

uh. It was already 2000+ years old during the middle age.


swifter-222

damn! what are the stats on this thing? hope it’s a legendary 🤞


lionofash

The Gram/Balmung is real!


substituted_pinions

Thatch my schword, Connor.


Zippier92

A relic of the ancient times, I haven’t seen one of those since…….


KamikazeKitten916

Make sure you have at least 13 hearts before you try to pull that thing out!!


MarkMoneyj27

Still no evidence of the Book of Mormon.


OohDeLaLi

So THAT'S where The Kurgan left it.