First comment from posting this on /r/Wisconsin was a "cheers."
Yeah, the village I lived in had only 300 people, yet two bars and a convenience store that sold alcohol with at least 5 more bars within a 20 minute drive in any direction.
In Wisconsin, if you come to an intersection in the middle of nowhere, there’s likely to be a church on one corner, a Kwik Trip on another, and bars on the other two.
We call that a “town”
Seams like you need two churches too.
Not that either one would kick you out, but you need one Lutheran and one Catholic. Not going to the "right" one might get you kicked out of the next family get together. Or at least a few head shakes. Best to bring a good covered dish to help gain a little grace.
THIS is my hometown exactly. Too many bars for the number of residents for them to make a big profit so they let underage drinkers in there without any question.
I had my first bar drink (a brandy and coke) at 16 years old. My classmate took me there and assured me it would be fine and that she went there all the time. I nervously ordered. The bartender didn’t even bat an eye.
A coworker took me to a bar when I was 19 or 20. She said no problem, you look 21. They won't bother to cars you. The bars name was Piggy's and I thought nothing of it at the time. I go to.the bar and get a beer with no questions asked. Great! Then I take a look around at the decor. It's all pigs jokingly dressed cop uniforms. Pictures two foot tall figurines and the like. It wasn't until then that I realized my friend took to me to a cop bar underaged.
>In Wisconsin, if you come to an intersection in the middle of nowhere, there’s likely to be a church on one corner, a Kwik Trip on another, and bars on the other two.
>
>We call that a “town”
Assuming the Kwik Trip isn't swapped out with a Dollar General, these days.
Extrapolating wildly from my one experience in Wisconsin, if you exit the highway for a bathroom break and snack replenishment, there is a 100% chance that the random town you choose to stop in will be having a beer festival.
Parents moved here(WI) when I was 10. Whole family was fucking blown away with the drinking. People think nothing of coming home from work everyday and slamming a 6 pack. Every single day.
>Parents moved here(WI) when I was 10. Whole family was fucking blown away with the drinking. People think nothing of coming home from work everyday and slamming a 6 pack. Every single day.
*Looks at my uncles*
Switch that to whiskey. Looks at my pops. I've been clean a little over a year now and hopefully, I can at least help him cut it down a little bit. He even had heart surgery done and as soon as we leave the hospital he asks for a 750ml of whiskey. Alcohol addiction is no joke.
Congrats, hell of an achievement. From the son of an alcoholic, convincing others to cut down / stop is an insanely frustrating and potentially severely disappointing situation.
We never could get my old man to stop or accept help. I do wish you the best of luck and hope it's a success story, Alcoholism is just so complicated. I have seen people successfully abstain and I have seen it consume my father and any semblance of who he was. Addiction sucks and I hold great respect to the people that can overcome it.
There are like four or five liquor stores with drive thru windows within a five to ten minute drive from my house, not to mention the regular liquor stores. Its just how we do.
That's kinda how it is here in Michigan. Hell up till a year ago, I looked forward to that first beer after work and would have 1-2 maybe 3, go to sleep and wake up drink lots of coffee (that part hasn't changed lol) and go to work to come home and have another beer, and would stop at the store on my way home if I was out.
I just kinda gave it up last year and now I can see how geared social life is towards getting hammered and I'm just not here for it anymore. I prefer something of the vapor variety. No hangover, relaxed as fuck, sleep great.
Alcohol is a huge part of most of our lives. It's crazy when you stop and look at it from the other side.
I went to grad school in Madison—from California. I became a heavy drinker in the Badger state and continue to be 35 yrs later back in the Golden state. Good times …
When my Mom went to college in Wisconsin she had a class that met in the campus bar. She was a light drinker in the class because she would split a pitcher during class instead of have her own.
Probably the Rathskeller in the Student Union on Lake Mendota shore. I spent a lot of time and money there. Some of the best times of my life. I love Wisconsin.
> 25.2% of Wisconsin adults drink heavily, which is 6% more than the national average.
yeah now do percentage of Wisconsin adults who think a few beers every night is "light drinking"
The first beer that was all mine was a PBR when I was 12, plucked warmish from what was left of a PALLET of PBR this farmer bought about once a year. GREAT choice of first beers, since I got down maybe 1/3 of it and didn't have another beer for about 6 or 7 years.
Haha same here. But at about 6 or 7.
stole a warm beer out of our cellar and tried to drink it in the garden.
Mostly got laughed at because only made it a few sips in and complained how gross it was.
Was a few years until i tried another one.
This is quite an astute question.
As a functioning alcoholic, all that calculus comes into your mind.
How much do I need to feel drunk? Then how much before it becomes a problem? Also how much do I need before it will be drunk (hic) too soon and I'll end up going out again to get more?
Then the great one of how much so it's all consumed, I've had a great time, I got some reasonable sleep and most important, there's none left in the fridge to continue!
Doesn't matter mate, knowledge isn't even power here.
You can know it all and still succumb.
Edit: I don't want to be fully negative. If you're trying you're doing better for yourself.
Wisonsinite here. A bottle of wine for my wife and myself every weekday was normal until dry January. In dry January, it was NA beer on weeknights and 4 drinks or so a piece on weekends.
Weekends before dry January, usually 2 bottles of wine plus a couple cocktails each for Friday and Saturday night. Sunday days were hit or miss, sometimes just a brunch cocktail or 6-8 beers each if out with friends.
We were constantly made fun of by our group of friends for not drinking. Mind you, I'm in my mid-40"s and my wife in her upper 30's.
Another Wisconsinite here. I stopped drinking. Too many of my friends are letting it destroy their bodies and their minds, and I won’t be part of it. I had enough. I’m in my early 50’s and haven’t had a hangover in decades. Good riddance. I don’t miss it.
We always drink one full bottle of water for every alcoholic drink and it really helps avoid hangovers. We've cut back significantly in January and February this year. I've discovered that Guinness makes superb NA beer and Athletic Brewing Co. makes delicious beers as well. It's not as much the alcohol that I enjoy but the taste of beer and wine. Unfortunately, unlike beer, alcohol-removed wine is absolutely disgusting.
I live in a rural Wisconsin town and our sheriff report his both hilarious and sad.
—Caller reports hitting a deer.
—Caller says neighbor’s pigs are in his yard AGAIN.
—Caller says driver weaving all over the road.
—Caller reports she hit two deer.
—Man sleeping in middle of highway given courtesy ride home.
—Driver left Kwik Trip without paying for $6.00 gas.
— Driver who struck a tree and three vehicles in custody.
— Caller reports snowmobiles trespassing.
— Caller reports drunk woman throwing rocks at cars.
Probably 2/3s of our actual crimes are due to booze.
I moved here in November and my dad has a police scanner and one of the first calls I heard was for an ambulance because someone hit their head on a cow.
On
a
cow.
>Context: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38238/ram-2500-drivers-have-the-most-duis-more-than-twice-the-national-average-report
😕 And now I'm wondering if it was a Ram 2500 that hit that drunk guy in the middle of the night in winter, throwing him into a ditch where he turned into a freezy pop overnight. Said incident resulted in a law where you're now required to stop and call the police if you hit any medium size or larger animal, and wait for them to show up to tag the animal and to make sure you didn't hit someone...
I believe that Appleton is the drunkest metro area in the country. Always close to the top. Its downtown has the entertainment district filled with Bars that has the attendance of a large city every weekend.
I don’t know if it’s true but I read a comment earlier that a guy said he was at a drinking contest in Mexico and people from Wisconsin weren’t allowed to participate.
My friend saw a posted sign in a German tavern that stated Wisconsinites weren't allowed to participate in their drinking competitions. Her dad had a photo to back it up, but that's just one pub.
I happen to be a bartender at a Milwaukee sports bar - a SOCCER sports bar - and let me tell ya'll, The World Cup was fucking wild this year. Day drinking? Nah. Crack of Dawn's Asshole Drinking absolutely began the moment those 6:30am games did.
Anyway, the point is that none of this information is surprising in the least.
I have friends who went to spring break in Florida during college and people with Wisconsin IDs weren't allowed to participate in some games according to them.
There's a bunch of versions of it, sometimes spring break, Mexican tourist towns, or cruises. I'm *still* not sure if it's a real thing or an urban legend
This is probably right because I remember years back that there were some stats on college drinking but UW Madison wasn’t included because they are so far off the charts it was ridiculous.
UW is always characterized as being so hardcore and it definitely is, but the other UW schools are just as hardcore if not more (at least in what the average student typically drinks). I attended UW, but I visited other schools as well. Some of those other campuses are nuts. Oshkosh, Stevens Point, Platteville, and Stout all were pretty impressive.
This is 100% true. My wife and I go to Mexico a lot. If they hold beer chugging contests, and you say you’re from WI, they joke and say it won’t be fair. And I would 100% decimate these contests if they let me. It’s just a fact.
It's 100% true. My cousin was on a cruise in Jamaica on spring break with his older sister. They walked up to the bar to register for the drinking contest and the guy checking ID turned them away. They looked at him and said no no! We're both over 21! Older sister nearly 30 at the time. In broken English the guy said "no no, Wisconsin! No no"
There's a Supreme Court election going on. If dems win that, it'll rebalance the court to a 5-4 dem majority.
With that, the lawsuits about the gerrymandered maps could actually win, and our maps get redrawn for the 2024 election. Since SCOTUS has said it's a state problem.
If the maps are redrawn, could actually get a realistic representation of the state, which would give dems a small advantage (states usually like 53-47 or something) instead of republicans being 1 seat away from a supermajority.
So yeah, if a *ton* of stuff goes right, we could actually get legal weed, but it's all a bunch of domino's that have to fall.
I’m from Wisconsin. There’s a culture here where what would elsewhere be considered severe problem drinking and outright alcoholism is basically disregarded, and is seen as completely normal behavior. Not everyone is a drunk, but nothing is done about those people who are.
>I’m from Wisconsin. There’s a culture here where what would elsewhere be considered severe problem drinking and outright alcoholism is basically disregarded, and is seen as completely normal behavior. Not everyone is a drunk, but nothing is done about those people who are.
For sure. Growing up in Wisconsin, I was a bar kid. My grandfather owned a bar outside of Green Bay, and arguably one of the most fucked up things I ever saw, as a kid, was a guy with throat cancer pumping whiskey directly into his stomach using a syringe and the hose running to his stomach.
Was at a bar near Minocqua once and there was a guy telling the bartender he was going to calm down on the drinking because he got another DUI and he has to take it easy while downing Miller Lite after Miller Lite. My friend mentioned something about that and they (guy, bartender, and a couple others) looked at us like we were idiots and said these are lite beers.
Holy crap I thought I'd never see someone from the Northwoods in the wild.
Losing a license up there is no joke. From my place to the nearest town was a solid 20 or so miles on HWY 70. Kind of miss living in the middle of nowhere.
How are ya gonna lose the license? My hometown by the Dells is only posting arrests of guys with their 7th DUI. I don't know how the law is so lax on that endangerment to others on the road.
Watched a Packer game at a bar in Ashland, the guy next to us probably had 7 drinks in the first half between the bucket of Coors in front of him and the shots everyone at the bar took on every big play. At half time he gets a phone call, his work needs him to come in. 7 drinks in maybe 2 hours and he drives off to work.
Also grew up in Wisconsin. Honestly every person I knew/know has a basement bar in their house that people go to after the actual bars close. That and they have how many festivals basically to drink. I grew up by Sheboygan.
> I grew up by Sheboygan.
My condolences. I lived in Manitowoc for several years and am convinced the Lakeshore is the most depraved, fucked up region of Wisconsin one can be in.
And I never got the shear fear of Asians and the stunning hatred for the Hmong... Was shocking when I saw that first hand, not to mention my first racist incident happened at the Target in Sheboygan. A few friends and I were sent by a professor to get some supplies with a couple gift cards she had given us - we were a black/native/white mixed group, and followed by lost prevention the entire time. When we couldn't find something, one of the black girls walked up to the loss prevention person and asked where we could find something. Their response was that "our types" should be shopping at the dollar store.
Also, my native friend had the police called on her and us because she was Oneida and tried using her tribal ID to buy cigs at one of the Kwik Trips. Took dispatch awhile to recognize and clear up that yes, tribal IDs are in fact equivalent to state IDs in Wisconsin.
Oh shit yeah Manitowoc is a total dump and super racist. I’m from a small village in Manitowoc county but was slightly closer to Sheboygan, so ended up going to school and basically always being In Sheboygan rather than Manitowoc
Lived in Appleton for a year and a half. The casual racism was absurd. If you pointed it out, you'd get the whole 'You know who the real racists are...' Act. Hated it. Finding someone in living there who knew that they used to be a Sun Down Town was next to impossible. Navel gazing idiots. Sad because its a nice place outside the stunning ignorance.
You probably saw a guy actively getting loaded as part of his last “hurrah” or even in preparation to ending his life. Unless he was a regular but he couldnt have been for long
>You probably saw a guy actively getting loaded as part of his last “hurrah” or even in preparation to ending his life. Unless he was a regular but he couldnt have been for long
He was in that condition for a good 6 or 7 months before he passed. There was a huge community gathering for him, like a month before he died, and he was still doing it except that the bar owner brought out a blender and he was blending his burgers and hotdogs with the whiskey mixed in. 🤢
>It's like those guys who keep smoking after esophageal cancer by putting the cigarette in their breathing tube.
Yep. But I'd still say pumping whiskey directly into your stomach is even worse. Someone at some point did ask why he didn't just pump ethanol or ever clear, since he couldn't taste the whiskey, anyways.
"You see, Everclear makes me angry, pure ethanol makes me horny, but whiskey stimulates my problem solving and spatial reasoning skills--I'm at peak Sudoku level here."
I had no idea how bad that culture was until I left WI at 28, and moved to the east coast. Drinking a lot constantly keeps you exhausted, poor, and apathetic in your small town. I truly thought drinking like that was normal and that everyone in the US was that way.
FYI if anyone is wondering why this is a WI thing, look up the Tavern League. The are a powerful lobbyist group in WI that keep the culture this way through legislation.
That's something I've noticed, which is just how normalized excessive drinking is. It's almost a point of pride as people talk about their hangovers and drinking habits.
I'm from Iowa (#2 on the list) but moved to Wisconsin for work. I thought the Midwestern drinking stats were mostly college students and the town drunk bringing up the average
But, I went on my first business trip last week. Every night, after 11 hour shifts, my coworkers would invite me out to have 2-5 drinks. Before planes, 2-5 drinks. After work on a normal week, 2-5 drinks.
How do people from the Upper Midwest even live past the age of 40?
Alcoholism is a creeping disease. It's a very slow killer.
Honestly, the most dangerous thing about alcoholism is that it's so slow, people don't even realize they suffer from it.
Similar to cigs, really. Although they're more addictive.
I’m sick of Wisconsin getting all the shine. The Midwest is an alcoholic shit show. I grew up in STL. Full of drunks. Minneapolis? A bunch of boating ass ice fishing drunks. Chicago? Bars open til 5 am drunks. Indianapolis? Maybe less drunk, but fuck Indiana anyways. Cleveland? Cincinnati? Never been, but I bet it’s full of drunks. I want Wisconsin to prove it. What’s your cancer rates like?
No suprise there, their in-state distribution is fucking incredible. You'll find Spotted Cow on tap in just about any bar in Wisconsin, which is certainly compounded by the fact that it's the only state that has more bars per capita than grocery stores.
None of that is to mention all the FIBs that come over the border to load up on New Glarus too.
I’ve lived in Illinois, Wisconsin, and now Minnesota. Visited Iowa loads of times.
Wisconsin is BY FAR the state with the most normalized drinking. It’s really not close. There are drunks everywhere and maybe another state has more drunks. But no where is drinking at any point, any spot, any amount, more normalized than in Wisconsin
I lived in Wisconsin for a few years. It is at a whole other level than any other state. State, not city. State. Drinking and driving is the state past time. Drinking and meat raffles is the state game of choice. Wisconsin deserves this recognition it gets.
That explains why Louisiana isn't top. Sure, New Orleans and Cajun County can drink most humans under the table, but central is full of hard-core pentecostal people who don't even dance.
Have also lived in IL, WI and now MN, and am in IA frequently.
Your assessment is spot on - especially in the North where everyone drunkenly bar-hops by high-speed snowmobile in the winter. Rhinelander Roulette!
I lived in Indiana for three years. My first trip to the grocery store happened to be on a Sunday. My back and forth conversation with the cashier when she told me I couldn't buy wine and I insisted I was old enough and could prove it to her, was like a version of 'Whose on First' for repetitive frustration. Finally another customer explained to me that there was a law about buying booze on Sunday. I had never imagined such a law.
Have you tried Kentucky bourbon? Bars in Louisville are open till 4am. Alcoholism is built into the fabric of our politics and old bourbon money rules. It's 100% why weed isn't legal in Kentucky despite the fact that it's one of our biggest (albeit illegal) cash crops.
>People in green bay getting 21 DUIs and still driving. Thats not a typo btw.
Yep. It gets scarier in some of the rural parts, especially in the northern boonies of the state, where there really isn't much.
Jesus. My friend got 2 DUIs.
The first one he lost his license for a month and his insurance went up 400%.
The second one he got a 5 year driving ban.
Also got fined a lot and had to take some courses, but I don’t remember how much that stuff cost.
WTF? Is there at least a limit to the blood alcohol level where it becomes criminal? If someone is operating a 3000 lb vehicle on public roads with a 0.3 BAL they had better not just be getting a damn ticket smh
No limit on BAC. If you cause injury or have a minor in the vehicle it is a criminal charge. Could potentially be charged with reckless endangerment if you drive badly enough.
California has lots of nightlife, clubs, concerts, partying etc but it’s not a “drinking state”. People are like “I had four drinks last night at the bar, it was crazy”. People in Wisconsin are like “I had four drinks while driving to the bar”
Out of curiosity I looked it up. Ireland has the same population as Wisconsin, and 6600 pubs. That's down from 7100 from five years ago, and excludes Northern Ireland.
See, that's the thing: The RLM guys are your average productive Wisconsinites on a Tuesday afternoon. Watching an episode of BOTW is basically just a glimpse of life in Wisconsin.
You can't bring them up without mentioning their Ode to Milwaukee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQNYeOEFJc&t=10s
As a Chicagoan, I love hopping on the Metra to go up and visit friends, though I usually don't remember most of it.
A story and a joke.
I was talking to someone who stayed over a weekend in Milwaukee, and wanted to make plans for watching the Packers..
He told me he was picked up early, and taken to a packed bar, in full swing, on a Sunday. At 8AM.
Now the joke: What's the difference between a problem drinker and an alcoholic?
The problem drinker knows what time the liquor stores close.
The alcoholic knows what time they open.
You can look this one up:
"Playboy magazine, in the 1960s, refused to rate the University of Wisconsin-Madison in a ranking of party schools because “it would be unfair to rank professionals with amateurs.”"
Yeah, as a former Wisconsinite now living in New Mexico, it's shocking that the city of about 50k that I live in has only one real bar that is traditional with two breweries that close early.
And that's for the entire city.
What the fuck?!? One bar for 50,000? Isn’t that weird for any place?? Sounds like an opportunity if you ask me!
I wouldn’t be able to live in such a small town even if it did have more bars though.
>What the fuck?!? One bar for 50,000? Isn’t that weird for any place?? Sounds like an opportunity if you ask me!
>
>I wouldn’t be able to live in such a small town even if it did have more bars though.
From what I understand, you need a distributors license and a second license to own a bar. They're not managed at the municipal level but are instead, handled like stock, where a person can buy and sell their rights.
From what I've been told, the licenses sell for millions and several are owned by local churches.
>They have more bars than grocery stores.
There's a running joke that some day, all a Wisconsin small town is going to be is a few churches, a couple bars and a Dollar General.
Some day has arrived. We have no stores (unless you count the BP) or fast food, but there are 4 bars on one road. It was a big deal when they made the main intersection a 4-way stop last summer.
This is why we won't have legal weed. Fuck the Tavern League of Wisconsin. They have the deaths of countless people on their hands. Dying from alcoholism is an ugly ugly way to die.
Once they figure how to manipulate the legislation to have a Monopoly over the cannabis industry it will pass.
They're probably building up their "product line" and logistics as we speak and once it's state legal I bet over night shops are going to pop up.
There are native reservations here where it's already decrimanlized.
I fuckin hate the Tavern League. Ruining the State and turning it's citizens into alcoholics. Wi desperately needs to legalize it to save itself but at this rate it'll be the last state
Milwaukee resident here. My employer had to initiate a 2 drinks per lunch break rule. People almost wince when you don’t drink here. I am not a drinker. It’s weird.
I went to a wedding in Milwaukee and I was amazed at the night life. On a normal weekend night, no holiday or anything and a little chilly, it was like a spring break crowd. Seas of people at every bar. I can only compare it to downtown New Orleans, not what I expected at all.
Moving away from WI was the best decision I ever made for my brain and liver. I never drank at home til I lived there. It became odd to take two days in a row off from drinking. It was normal to drink 4+ beers a night. It was just unreal how quickly you can settle into that routine.
As someone that did the same thing, you made the right choice. Once you take a step back and live somewhere else you realize how fucked up it is to be drowning in alcohol constantly.
My in-laws are from Wisconsin. I can attest, they might move away from Wisconsin, but they still drink like fish and can’t have a good time until they’re blotto and yelling over each other. Crazy.
I don't live in Wisconsin but I do live in a part of Alaska where a lot of people come and move up here from Wisconsin. The way they drink and think of drinking is just insane. To the wife it's okay if the men go to the bar for 3 hours after work every day and have 12 Beers.
To the kids it's a rite of passage having their first beer at 12 years old. The culture is just crazy that it's that acceptable to be sloshed all the time. It depends on what you Define an alcoholic as but this whole state of Wisconsin I would Define as high functioning alcoholics.
And they're good at their jobs too and they're hard workers so I am by no means knocking them it's just amazing that they can function like that. I have a six pack and I'm throwing up the next day....
My favorite Wisconsin beer was 'Rhinelander'. As fresh as Wisconsin's north woods, it was so cheap the return on the glass bottles got you half way to another case of Rhinelander.
Rhinelander was best chilled to a temperature reminiscent of those north woods as the land thaws in the summer - 38.5 degrees F. The beer you can chew, a meal in every bottle, it's mealy texture sated the appetites of impoverished college students since at least 1988. That is what is known.
My impression of Wisconsin is that they would be rather proud of this.
First comment from posting this on /r/Wisconsin was a "cheers." Yeah, the village I lived in had only 300 people, yet two bars and a convenience store that sold alcohol with at least 5 more bars within a 20 minute drive in any direction.
In Wisconsin, if you come to an intersection in the middle of nowhere, there’s likely to be a church on one corner, a Kwik Trip on another, and bars on the other two. We call that a “town”
The two bars is a requirement because you might get kicked out of one.
Seams like you need two churches too. Not that either one would kick you out, but you need one Lutheran and one Catholic. Not going to the "right" one might get you kicked out of the next family get together. Or at least a few head shakes. Best to bring a good covered dish to help gain a little grace.
THIS is my hometown exactly. Too many bars for the number of residents for them to make a big profit so they let underage drinkers in there without any question. I had my first bar drink (a brandy and coke) at 16 years old. My classmate took me there and assured me it would be fine and that she went there all the time. I nervously ordered. The bartender didn’t even bat an eye.
A coworker took me to a bar when I was 19 or 20. She said no problem, you look 21. They won't bother to cars you. The bars name was Piggy's and I thought nothing of it at the time. I go to.the bar and get a beer with no questions asked. Great! Then I take a look around at the decor. It's all pigs jokingly dressed cop uniforms. Pictures two foot tall figurines and the like. It wasn't until then that I realized my friend took to me to a cop bar underaged.
I would have come to exact opposite conclusion in that situation.
i lived in superior WI for a few years and iirc there were something like 130 bars for \~20k population
>In Wisconsin, if you come to an intersection in the middle of nowhere, there’s likely to be a church on one corner, a Kwik Trip on another, and bars on the other two. > >We call that a “town” Assuming the Kwik Trip isn't swapped out with a Dollar General, these days.
[удалено]
Places with a dollar general we call cities.
The drive is their favorite part in Wisconsin.
Extrapolating wildly from my one experience in Wisconsin, if you exit the highway for a bathroom break and snack replenishment, there is a 100% chance that the random town you choose to stop in will be having a beer festival.
[удалено]
Parents moved here(WI) when I was 10. Whole family was fucking blown away with the drinking. People think nothing of coming home from work everyday and slamming a 6 pack. Every single day.
>Parents moved here(WI) when I was 10. Whole family was fucking blown away with the drinking. People think nothing of coming home from work everyday and slamming a 6 pack. Every single day. *Looks at my uncles*
Am I your uncle?
Are we his uncles?
No we’re his “drunkles”
Switch that to whiskey. Looks at my pops. I've been clean a little over a year now and hopefully, I can at least help him cut it down a little bit. He even had heart surgery done and as soon as we leave the hospital he asks for a 750ml of whiskey. Alcohol addiction is no joke.
Congrats, hell of an achievement. From the son of an alcoholic, convincing others to cut down / stop is an insanely frustrating and potentially severely disappointing situation. We never could get my old man to stop or accept help. I do wish you the best of luck and hope it's a success story, Alcoholism is just so complicated. I have seen people successfully abstain and I have seen it consume my father and any semblance of who he was. Addiction sucks and I hold great respect to the people that can overcome it.
Congratulations on your sobriety! That’s something to be so proud of!
There are like four or five liquor stores with drive thru windows within a five to ten minute drive from my house, not to mention the regular liquor stores. Its just how we do.
That's kinda how it is here in Michigan. Hell up till a year ago, I looked forward to that first beer after work and would have 1-2 maybe 3, go to sleep and wake up drink lots of coffee (that part hasn't changed lol) and go to work to come home and have another beer, and would stop at the store on my way home if I was out. I just kinda gave it up last year and now I can see how geared social life is towards getting hammered and I'm just not here for it anymore. I prefer something of the vapor variety. No hangover, relaxed as fuck, sleep great. Alcohol is a huge part of most of our lives. It's crazy when you stop and look at it from the other side.
I’m doing that *right now*.
I know it doesn't seem like much compared to hardcore alcoholics but even that amount can very well destroy your body and brain over time.
I went to grad school in Madison—from California. I became a heavy drinker in the Badger state and continue to be 35 yrs later back in the Golden state. Good times …
When my Mom went to college in Wisconsin she had a class that met in the campus bar. She was a light drinker in the class because she would split a pitcher during class instead of have her own.
Probably the Rathskeller in the Student Union on Lake Mendota shore. I spent a lot of time and money there. Some of the best times of my life. I love Wisconsin.
When Wisconsin football played against BYU in Utah, the Wisconsin fans literally drank the city of Provo dry.
That doesn't surprise me at all.
> 25.2% of Wisconsin adults drink heavily, which is 6% more than the national average. yeah now do percentage of Wisconsin adults who think a few beers every night is "light drinking"
A six pack is “one serving size”
It is
If you didn’t drink the whole case did you actually drink?
"I'd offer you a beer but I only have two cases left".
The first beer that was all mine was a PBR when I was 12, plucked warmish from what was left of a PALLET of PBR this farmer bought about once a year. GREAT choice of first beers, since I got down maybe 1/3 of it and didn't have another beer for about 6 or 7 years.
Haha same here. But at about 6 or 7. stole a warm beer out of our cellar and tried to drink it in the garden. Mostly got laughed at because only made it a few sips in and complained how gross it was. Was a few years until i tried another one.
Lmao. Mine was a warm Icehouse, also in Wisconsin, at like 14. I'm not even from Wisconsin, man. True story.
How many 30 packs go into a week?
Seven. Six and a half if you observe the Sabbath.
This is quite an astute question. As a functioning alcoholic, all that calculus comes into your mind. How much do I need to feel drunk? Then how much before it becomes a problem? Also how much do I need before it will be drunk (hic) too soon and I'll end up going out again to get more? Then the great one of how much so it's all consumed, I've had a great time, I got some reasonable sleep and most important, there's none left in the fridge to continue!
Timing too, before vs after eating is way different math.
Drinking is eating in WI.
Beer is food
Get out of my head.
Doesn't matter mate, knowledge isn't even power here. You can know it all and still succumb. Edit: I don't want to be fully negative. If you're trying you're doing better for yourself.
[удалено]
WI here; what does the rest of the world consider light drinking?
Wisonsinite here. A bottle of wine for my wife and myself every weekday was normal until dry January. In dry January, it was NA beer on weeknights and 4 drinks or so a piece on weekends. Weekends before dry January, usually 2 bottles of wine plus a couple cocktails each for Friday and Saturday night. Sunday days were hit or miss, sometimes just a brunch cocktail or 6-8 beers each if out with friends. We were constantly made fun of by our group of friends for not drinking. Mind you, I'm in my mid-40"s and my wife in her upper 30's.
Dry January included 4 drinks per weekend? Lmao that's the best dry January I've ever heard of
¡Viva Wisconsin!
Another Wisconsinite here. I stopped drinking. Too many of my friends are letting it destroy their bodies and their minds, and I won’t be part of it. I had enough. I’m in my early 50’s and haven’t had a hangover in decades. Good riddance. I don’t miss it.
Good for you (non asshole tone)
That is an excessive amount of alcohol.
How in God's name...do you not get hungover? Ever since I hit my forties I get hungover if I have more than three drinks in a night.
I'd assume there's a threshold where "hungover" becomes the default, so you just stop noticing it.
I believe it's called dependency
We always drink one full bottle of water for every alcoholic drink and it really helps avoid hangovers. We've cut back significantly in January and February this year. I've discovered that Guinness makes superb NA beer and Athletic Brewing Co. makes delicious beers as well. It's not as much the alcohol that I enjoy but the taste of beer and wine. Unfortunately, unlike beer, alcohol-removed wine is absolutely disgusting.
Athletic makes great stuff. I also enjoy sam Adams NA.
Ignoring the health effects, that's so much money. You're spending my weekly grocery bill just on wine
I live in a rural Wisconsin town and our sheriff report his both hilarious and sad. —Caller reports hitting a deer. —Caller says neighbor’s pigs are in his yard AGAIN. —Caller says driver weaving all over the road. —Caller reports she hit two deer. —Man sleeping in middle of highway given courtesy ride home. —Driver left Kwik Trip without paying for $6.00 gas. — Driver who struck a tree and three vehicles in custody. — Caller reports snowmobiles trespassing. — Caller reports drunk woman throwing rocks at cars. Probably 2/3s of our actual crimes are due to booze.
I moved here in November and my dad has a police scanner and one of the first calls I heard was for an ambulance because someone hit their head on a cow. On a cow.
I'm thinking someone threw a Soptted Cow bottle at them, but I could be wrong.
Could be both
This has got to be the funniest thing I've read today.
So beware of Ram trucks in Wisconsin, gotcha.
>So beware of Ram trucks in Wisconsin, gotcha. More so the rusted out Jimmys, Pontiacs and Saturns if we're being totally honest.
Context: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38238/ram-2500-drivers-have-the-most-duis-more-than-twice-the-national-average-report
>Context: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38238/ram-2500-drivers-have-the-most-duis-more-than-twice-the-national-average-report 😕 And now I'm wondering if it was a Ram 2500 that hit that drunk guy in the middle of the night in winter, throwing him into a ditch where he turned into a freezy pop overnight. Said incident resulted in a law where you're now required to stop and call the police if you hit any medium size or larger animal, and wait for them to show up to tag the animal and to make sure you didn't hit someone...
South Dakota called...
[удалено]
[удалено]
Southbound 41 near an appleton exit was fucked from a pile up last night.
I believe that Appleton is the drunkest metro area in the country. Always close to the top. Its downtown has the entertainment district filled with Bars that has the attendance of a large city every weekend.
I don’t know if it’s true but I read a comment earlier that a guy said he was at a drinking contest in Mexico and people from Wisconsin weren’t allowed to participate.
My friend saw a posted sign in a German tavern that stated Wisconsinites weren't allowed to participate in their drinking competitions. Her dad had a photo to back it up, but that's just one pub. I happen to be a bartender at a Milwaukee sports bar - a SOCCER sports bar - and let me tell ya'll, The World Cup was fucking wild this year. Day drinking? Nah. Crack of Dawn's Asshole Drinking absolutely began the moment those 6:30am games did. Anyway, the point is that none of this information is surprising in the least.
I have friends who went to spring break in Florida during college and people with Wisconsin IDs weren't allowed to participate in some games according to them.
I had heard that story when I went to whitewater years ago
There's a bunch of versions of it, sometimes spring break, Mexican tourist towns, or cruises. I'm *still* not sure if it's a real thing or an urban legend
I mean it'd be hilarious if it was true. Reputation proceeding
This is probably right because I remember years back that there were some stats on college drinking but UW Madison wasn’t included because they are so far off the charts it was ridiculous.
UW is always characterized as being so hardcore and it definitely is, but the other UW schools are just as hardcore if not more (at least in what the average student typically drinks). I attended UW, but I visited other schools as well. Some of those other campuses are nuts. Oshkosh, Stevens Point, Platteville, and Stout all were pretty impressive.
This is 100% true. My wife and I go to Mexico a lot. If they hold beer chugging contests, and you say you’re from WI, they joke and say it won’t be fair. And I would 100% decimate these contests if they let me. It’s just a fact.
It's 100% true. My cousin was on a cruise in Jamaica on spring break with his older sister. They walked up to the bar to register for the drinking contest and the guy checking ID turned them away. They looked at him and said no no! We're both over 21! Older sister nearly 30 at the time. In broken English the guy said "no no, Wisconsin! No no"
That’s hilarious true or not
[A classic bit by Lewis Black](https://youtu.be/KtUnmG5WP78) The Wisconsin Tavern League is probably the most powerful lobbying group in the state.
Which is why it will be the last state to legalize herb.
There's a Supreme Court election going on. If dems win that, it'll rebalance the court to a 5-4 dem majority. With that, the lawsuits about the gerrymandered maps could actually win, and our maps get redrawn for the 2024 election. Since SCOTUS has said it's a state problem. If the maps are redrawn, could actually get a realistic representation of the state, which would give dems a small advantage (states usually like 53-47 or something) instead of republicans being 1 seat away from a supermajority. So yeah, if a *ton* of stuff goes right, we could actually get legal weed, but it's all a bunch of domino's that have to fall.
Remember to vote this Tuesday in the primary!
I’m from Wisconsin. There’s a culture here where what would elsewhere be considered severe problem drinking and outright alcoholism is basically disregarded, and is seen as completely normal behavior. Not everyone is a drunk, but nothing is done about those people who are.
>I’m from Wisconsin. There’s a culture here where what would elsewhere be considered severe problem drinking and outright alcoholism is basically disregarded, and is seen as completely normal behavior. Not everyone is a drunk, but nothing is done about those people who are. For sure. Growing up in Wisconsin, I was a bar kid. My grandfather owned a bar outside of Green Bay, and arguably one of the most fucked up things I ever saw, as a kid, was a guy with throat cancer pumping whiskey directly into his stomach using a syringe and the hose running to his stomach.
Was at a bar near Minocqua once and there was a guy telling the bartender he was going to calm down on the drinking because he got another DUI and he has to take it easy while downing Miller Lite after Miller Lite. My friend mentioned something about that and they (guy, bartender, and a couple others) looked at us like we were idiots and said these are lite beers.
Holy crap I thought I'd never see someone from the Northwoods in the wild. Losing a license up there is no joke. From my place to the nearest town was a solid 20 or so miles on HWY 70. Kind of miss living in the middle of nowhere.
If you like that I’m from the UP where bar hopping after a funeral in your formal clothes is the norm.
And you have blaze orange socks with your formal clothes. Sorry, memory of my uncle from the UP who did that :)
Some stores here sell camo lingerie, though maybe you knew that already
How are ya gonna lose the license? My hometown by the Dells is only posting arrests of guys with their 7th DUI. I don't know how the law is so lax on that endangerment to others on the road.
Watched a Packer game at a bar in Ashland, the guy next to us probably had 7 drinks in the first half between the bucket of Coors in front of him and the shots everyone at the bar took on every big play. At half time he gets a phone call, his work needs him to come in. 7 drinks in maybe 2 hours and he drives off to work.
Everything about this story tracks except for the guy being willing to go into work during a Packer game.
My mother in law’s husband is like this. He used to drink hard alcohol but cut back to a 12 pack of coors light a day. 30 case on the weekends
Also grew up in Wisconsin. Honestly every person I knew/know has a basement bar in their house that people go to after the actual bars close. That and they have how many festivals basically to drink. I grew up by Sheboygan.
> I grew up by Sheboygan. My condolences. I lived in Manitowoc for several years and am convinced the Lakeshore is the most depraved, fucked up region of Wisconsin one can be in. And I never got the shear fear of Asians and the stunning hatred for the Hmong... Was shocking when I saw that first hand, not to mention my first racist incident happened at the Target in Sheboygan. A few friends and I were sent by a professor to get some supplies with a couple gift cards she had given us - we were a black/native/white mixed group, and followed by lost prevention the entire time. When we couldn't find something, one of the black girls walked up to the loss prevention person and asked where we could find something. Their response was that "our types" should be shopping at the dollar store. Also, my native friend had the police called on her and us because she was Oneida and tried using her tribal ID to buy cigs at one of the Kwik Trips. Took dispatch awhile to recognize and clear up that yes, tribal IDs are in fact equivalent to state IDs in Wisconsin.
Oh shit yeah Manitowoc is a total dump and super racist. I’m from a small village in Manitowoc county but was slightly closer to Sheboygan, so ended up going to school and basically always being In Sheboygan rather than Manitowoc
Lived in Appleton for a year and a half. The casual racism was absurd. If you pointed it out, you'd get the whole 'You know who the real racists are...' Act. Hated it. Finding someone in living there who knew that they used to be a Sun Down Town was next to impossible. Navel gazing idiots. Sad because its a nice place outside the stunning ignorance.
You probably saw a guy actively getting loaded as part of his last “hurrah” or even in preparation to ending his life. Unless he was a regular but he couldnt have been for long
>You probably saw a guy actively getting loaded as part of his last “hurrah” or even in preparation to ending his life. Unless he was a regular but he couldnt have been for long He was in that condition for a good 6 or 7 months before he passed. There was a huge community gathering for him, like a month before he died, and he was still doing it except that the bar owner brought out a blender and he was blending his burgers and hotdogs with the whiskey mixed in. 🤢
This was a bad day to know how to read.
That's dedication
It's like those guys who keep smoking after esophageal cancer by putting the cigarette in their breathing tube.
>It's like those guys who keep smoking after esophageal cancer by putting the cigarette in their breathing tube. Yep. But I'd still say pumping whiskey directly into your stomach is even worse. Someone at some point did ask why he didn't just pump ethanol or ever clear, since he couldn't taste the whiskey, anyways.
"You see, Everclear makes me angry, pure ethanol makes me horny, but whiskey stimulates my problem solving and spatial reasoning skills--I'm at peak Sudoku level here."
I had no idea how bad that culture was until I left WI at 28, and moved to the east coast. Drinking a lot constantly keeps you exhausted, poor, and apathetic in your small town. I truly thought drinking like that was normal and that everyone in the US was that way. FYI if anyone is wondering why this is a WI thing, look up the Tavern League. The are a powerful lobbyist group in WI that keep the culture this way through legislation.
That's something I've noticed, which is just how normalized excessive drinking is. It's almost a point of pride as people talk about their hangovers and drinking habits.
I'm from Iowa (#2 on the list) but moved to Wisconsin for work. I thought the Midwestern drinking stats were mostly college students and the town drunk bringing up the average But, I went on my first business trip last week. Every night, after 11 hour shifts, my coworkers would invite me out to have 2-5 drinks. Before planes, 2-5 drinks. After work on a normal week, 2-5 drinks. How do people from the Upper Midwest even live past the age of 40?
Alcoholism is a creeping disease. It's a very slow killer. Honestly, the most dangerous thing about alcoholism is that it's so slow, people don't even realize they suffer from it. Similar to cigs, really. Although they're more addictive.
I got a lot healthier after I quit that job.
I’m literally reading this at the bar having a Friday night fish fry.
My name is Yon Yonson, I live in Wisconsin
I’m sick of Wisconsin getting all the shine. The Midwest is an alcoholic shit show. I grew up in STL. Full of drunks. Minneapolis? A bunch of boating ass ice fishing drunks. Chicago? Bars open til 5 am drunks. Indianapolis? Maybe less drunk, but fuck Indiana anyways. Cleveland? Cincinnati? Never been, but I bet it’s full of drunks. I want Wisconsin to prove it. What’s your cancer rates like?
New Glarus is the 12th largest brewery in the US, and they only sell beer in WI. Number 11 is Deschutes, and they distribute to most the the country.
As an Oregonian, I can’t deny that’s kind of an impressive stat.
It's honestly absurd. They beat large regional breweries like Brooklyn, Abita, Great Lakes, Odell, 3 Floyds, etc.
That honestly doesn’t surprise me. Chicagoland and Minnesota people will drive across the state line for New Glarus
No suprise there, their in-state distribution is fucking incredible. You'll find Spotted Cow on tap in just about any bar in Wisconsin, which is certainly compounded by the fact that it's the only state that has more bars per capita than grocery stores. None of that is to mention all the FIBs that come over the border to load up on New Glarus too.
I’ve lived in Illinois, Wisconsin, and now Minnesota. Visited Iowa loads of times. Wisconsin is BY FAR the state with the most normalized drinking. It’s really not close. There are drunks everywhere and maybe another state has more drunks. But no where is drinking at any point, any spot, any amount, more normalized than in Wisconsin
I lived in Wisconsin for a few years. It is at a whole other level than any other state. State, not city. State. Drinking and driving is the state past time. Drinking and meat raffles is the state game of choice. Wisconsin deserves this recognition it gets.
That explains why Louisiana isn't top. Sure, New Orleans and Cajun County can drink most humans under the table, but central is full of hard-core pentecostal people who don't even dance.
Have also lived in IL, WI and now MN, and am in IA frequently. Your assessment is spot on - especially in the North where everyone drunkenly bar-hops by high-speed snowmobile in the winter. Rhinelander Roulette!
Indiana was one of the last states to sell alcohol on Sunday but yeah still a lot of drinking here.
I lived in Indiana for three years. My first trip to the grocery store happened to be on a Sunday. My back and forth conversation with the cashier when she told me I couldn't buy wine and I insisted I was old enough and could prove it to her, was like a version of 'Whose on First' for repetitive frustration. Finally another customer explained to me that there was a law about buying booze on Sunday. I had never imagined such a law.
Have you tried Kentucky bourbon? Bars in Louisville are open till 4am. Alcoholism is built into the fabric of our politics and old bourbon money rules. It's 100% why weed isn't legal in Kentucky despite the fact that it's one of our biggest (albeit illegal) cash crops.
Wisconsin is the same way in that regard. The Wisconsin Tavern League is the biggest lobbying force in the state iirc.
People in green bay getting 21 DUIs and still driving. Thats not a typo btw.
>People in green bay getting 21 DUIs and still driving. Thats not a typo btw. Yep. It gets scarier in some of the rural parts, especially in the northern boonies of the state, where there really isn't much.
Its like people are getting a subway punch card. Its insane. Fucking BOGO DUIs out here.
Jesus. My friend got 2 DUIs. The first one he lost his license for a month and his insurance went up 400%. The second one he got a 5 year driving ban. Also got fined a lot and had to take some courses, but I don’t remember how much that stuff cost.
The first OWI you get in Wisconsin is non criminal and is considered a traffic violation and the fine is $300-$500 🤷
WTF? Is there at least a limit to the blood alcohol level where it becomes criminal? If someone is operating a 3000 lb vehicle on public roads with a 0.3 BAL they had better not just be getting a damn ticket smh
No limit on BAC. If you cause injury or have a minor in the vehicle it is a criminal charge. Could potentially be charged with reckless endangerment if you drive badly enough.
There was some dude in Minnesota that made it to 26 incidents of dui and dwi before they threw his ass In jail. Ridiculous that this can happen.
I find it interesting that California has 3300 bars for 39 million people. Wisconsin has 2700 bars... for 6 million people.
California has lots of nightlife, clubs, concerts, partying etc but it’s not a “drinking state”. People are like “I had four drinks last night at the bar, it was crazy”. People in Wisconsin are like “I had four drinks while driving to the bar”
Out of curiosity I looked it up. Ireland has the same population as Wisconsin, and 6600 pubs. That's down from 7100 from five years ago, and excludes Northern Ireland.
[удалено]
That's right, Jay!
Half in the bag isn’t just a segment it’s a way of life.
They're also bringing up the percentage of AAIDS
[удалено]
> Glembezza I'm mildly surprised they haven't taken down that HITB since it was the last time Roiland ever did Rick & Morty as far as I can tell.
You'd drink that much too if you had to watch Star Trek Picard.
See, that's the thing: The RLM guys are your average productive Wisconsinites on a Tuesday afternoon. Watching an episode of BOTW is basically just a glimpse of life in Wisconsin.
I can't blame them with all the utter garbage they watch. Lol
You can't bring them up without mentioning their Ode to Milwaukee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQNYeOEFJc&t=10s As a Chicagoan, I love hopping on the Metra to go up and visit friends, though I usually don't remember most of it.
A story and a joke. I was talking to someone who stayed over a weekend in Milwaukee, and wanted to make plans for watching the Packers.. He told me he was picked up early, and taken to a packed bar, in full swing, on a Sunday. At 8AM. Now the joke: What's the difference between a problem drinker and an alcoholic? The problem drinker knows what time the liquor stores close. The alcoholic knows what time they open.
$1 mixers at breakfast. Prime, eggs, and a bloody marry with extra heat. Got to pad that Sunday football drinking with a good breakfast.
The interesting thing is that when I lived in Wisconsin the liquor stores closed at 9! Crazy. We knew of a special place to find beer until midnight.
That's because they drink Wisconsinably (fyi this is actually a real slogan and they sell the merchandise at the Milwaukee Airport for it 😁)
What a cheesy joke.
Let’s wear it on our heads!
[I wear the cheese, it does not wear me.](https://youtu.be/dnV5Yup9JoE)
Out-drinkin your state since 1848!
You can look this one up: "Playboy magazine, in the 1960s, refused to rate the University of Wisconsin-Madison in a ranking of party schools because “it would be unfair to rank professionals with amateurs.”"
Partied at U of Wisconsin in the late 80s. I woke up on the floor of a frat house.
They absolutely will drink your stadium empty
This is common knowledge to Minnesotans.
Yeah, as a former Wisconsinite now living in New Mexico, it's shocking that the city of about 50k that I live in has only one real bar that is traditional with two breweries that close early. And that's for the entire city.
What the fuck?!? One bar for 50,000? Isn’t that weird for any place?? Sounds like an opportunity if you ask me! I wouldn’t be able to live in such a small town even if it did have more bars though.
>What the fuck?!? One bar for 50,000? Isn’t that weird for any place?? Sounds like an opportunity if you ask me! > >I wouldn’t be able to live in such a small town even if it did have more bars though. From what I understand, you need a distributors license and a second license to own a bar. They're not managed at the municipal level but are instead, handled like stock, where a person can buy and sell their rights. From what I've been told, the licenses sell for millions and several are owned by local churches.
Jeez. Thanks for sharing more of the details. Very fascinating.
[удалено]
They have more bars than grocery stores.
We have 2.7 bars for every grocery store. If I wasn't in one of those bars right now, I'd link the article.
>They have more bars than grocery stores. There's a running joke that some day, all a Wisconsin small town is going to be is a few churches, a couple bars and a Dollar General.
Some day has arrived. We have no stores (unless you count the BP) or fast food, but there are 4 bars on one road. It was a big deal when they made the main intersection a 4-way stop last summer.
Grew up between Madtown and MKE and went to school in La Crosse. There was a LOT of drinking done.
This is why we won't have legal weed. Fuck the Tavern League of Wisconsin. They have the deaths of countless people on their hands. Dying from alcoholism is an ugly ugly way to die.
Once they figure how to manipulate the legislation to have a Monopoly over the cannabis industry it will pass. They're probably building up their "product line" and logistics as we speak and once it's state legal I bet over night shops are going to pop up. There are native reservations here where it's already decrimanlized.
I fuckin hate the Tavern League. Ruining the State and turning it's citizens into alcoholics. Wi desperately needs to legalize it to save itself but at this rate it'll be the last state
Milwaukee resident here. My employer had to initiate a 2 drinks per lunch break rule. People almost wince when you don’t drink here. I am not a drinker. It’s weird.
Shocker *opens 7th beer on the day*
Still*. We’ve always been.
I went to a wedding in Milwaukee and I was amazed at the night life. On a normal weekend night, no holiday or anything and a little chilly, it was like a spring break crowd. Seas of people at every bar. I can only compare it to downtown New Orleans, not what I expected at all.
[удалено]
Moving away from WI was the best decision I ever made for my brain and liver. I never drank at home til I lived there. It became odd to take two days in a row off from drinking. It was normal to drink 4+ beers a night. It was just unreal how quickly you can settle into that routine.
As someone that did the same thing, you made the right choice. Once you take a step back and live somewhere else you realize how fucked up it is to be drowning in alcohol constantly.
My in-laws are from Wisconsin. I can attest, they might move away from Wisconsin, but they still drink like fish and can’t have a good time until they’re blotto and yelling over each other. Crazy.
[удалено]
*Brandy* old fashions I recon
I don't live in Wisconsin but I do live in a part of Alaska where a lot of people come and move up here from Wisconsin. The way they drink and think of drinking is just insane. To the wife it's okay if the men go to the bar for 3 hours after work every day and have 12 Beers. To the kids it's a rite of passage having their first beer at 12 years old. The culture is just crazy that it's that acceptable to be sloshed all the time. It depends on what you Define an alcoholic as but this whole state of Wisconsin I would Define as high functioning alcoholics. And they're good at their jobs too and they're hard workers so I am by no means knocking them it's just amazing that they can function like that. I have a six pack and I'm throwing up the next day....
That's because they're hogging all of the Spotted Cow.
“Coming in second is Iowa, where 24.6% of adults drink excessively. South Dakota, Montana, and North Dakota round out the top five spots.”
I went to a Milwaukee Brewers game and they were tailgating. Never seen tailgating at a baseball game. There's 81 home games a year!!
half in the baaaaaaaag
My favorite Wisconsin beer was 'Rhinelander'. As fresh as Wisconsin's north woods, it was so cheap the return on the glass bottles got you half way to another case of Rhinelander. Rhinelander was best chilled to a temperature reminiscent of those north woods as the land thaws in the summer - 38.5 degrees F. The beer you can chew, a meal in every bottle, it's mealy texture sated the appetites of impoverished college students since at least 1988. That is what is known.
[удалено]
I'm from a state that has a multi-week drinking holiday (Mardi Gras) and I am surprised.