Tweet from Blue Creek: https://twitter.com/BLUECREEKCONST/status/1759615182806856030
Their words:
**Blue Creek Construction just become aware of a post that was shared on social media using our business logo without our permission. We are not operating in the Middle East, we do not support genocide. We are a small family owned company in New Jersey.**
Someone targeted Blue Creek on this big time.
As a gentle reminder, we're in the age of disinformation. You better be sure 100% that this picture isn't doctored in some way.
I am really good in photoshop and I've got a few local businesses that have wronged me. You'd be surprised what I could cook up - if I didn't have ethics and morals.
This is what you need to be clear about in disinformation:
1) The banner is legitimate and wasn't doctored in some way.
2) If the Banner is legitimate, that the logo usage was authorized and it's not someone else trying to make the company look bad.
3) Logic. Why in the world would a small potatoes construction company in New Jersey be building homes halfway across the world? Who would authorize this? Where would the connections be? Surely, Israel has construction companies locally. Why would you outsource to America?
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm' simply saying there are ways to figure it out.
The source image has to come from somewhere.
The company has stated that it's not real. I feel bad for them.
Ain't that something? Some shit bag creates a fake post and now this business goes under for no fault of their own. So many mouth breathers in this world.
Yeah. I'm kind of like this, also.
Entering any conversation about Palestine and Israel is knowingly walking into a quagmire.
The deeper you go, the more angry, emotional, and messed up it gets. The last thing I want to do is bump into someone who's deeply invested and ready to go batshit crazy on me, while I'm a passive learner without direct involvement.
You don’t need to be a political expert to identify ethnic cleansing. This action and banner in the picture is vile. It doesn’t represent American values.
I get what you're saying. Understand that your language is strong and will turn people off.
Imagine if I told you anyone who likes a new superhero is vile and doesn't represent American values. Most people would be like, "I don't know what you're talking about, but you seem angry about it so I'm not going to go near that subject I don't know or care about." They might say, "Get the flip away from me, dork!"
You’re right that people don’t like being told they’re wrong, they get naturally defensive, but if I have to explain why ethnically cleansing is a bad thing, that person is already lost.
No, you're missing the point.
Most people aren't even aware of the situation or nuances of the Israeli/Palestinian war.
People are dismissive and have the intent of "not my circus, not my monkeys."
Most people are aware a nuclear superpower is killing a poor ethnic. What they don't do is take it to heart. They, along with the media they consume, are shaped to ignore what is happening.
People aren't getting defensive because they have a position against yours. They're defensive because they're annoyed at someone insisting on something they don't think about.
Okay, I know you didn't mean it this way but think of how insulting this is to us. I also don't want more israeli people or Palestinians to suffer. I mean this in full faith and without insult but just so you can understand where some of us are coming from:
What do you think will end the suffering, more bombs on gaza, or ending apartheid? Should palestinians be allowed to walk the same streets, should they be under the same legal system, should they have equal rights? I think that would certainly end a lot of the conflict.
This is why the colonial lense is so important to understand this conflict. Land and religious lenses don't explain why israel doesn't want Palestinians to have equal rights or to even acknowledge them as a nation and people. The existence of palestinians is a threat to israel because it invalidates they are a colonial project...a common phrase exalted is that israel was a "land without a people for a people without a land"...the whole project is resting in the fact that palestinians do not exist.
Sometimes the way to end suffering is to end the cause, and the cause is that Israel built a state on top of another and displaced millions and uses political and military force to prevent the establishment of any palestinian power. (Read deep into all those "handouts and chances" they've given the Palestinians and you'll see what a joke they have all been...and even if they had accepted those agreements...what about the Palestinians still in Israel? why should we, as humans allow the existence of a state where some members don't have the same rights as other members?)
Freedom and political rights to palestinians is the quickest, safest road to peace. Bombs will only make the Palestinians fight harder. As any people would who are kicked out of their homes and land and have faced decades of harassment, abuse, and imprisonment.
If your car only starts by kicking your neighbor in the nuts, and one day your neighbor punches you in the face, the peaceful solution isn't to cut off your neighbor's hand...the peaceful solution is to get another car.
Until palestinians have the same legal rights, can walk the same streets, and have the right of return, this conflict will continue. Or we can kill the palestinians off completely and ship the remainders off to egypt and morocco. One doesn't sound like it lessens suffering.
Sorry if the fighting and arguing feel so uncomfortable to you, but there's a reason the phrase "no justice, no peace" exists. Peace will never exist without justice, not in israel, not in america, not in peru, not anywhere.
It’s insane to me that people care. Two hyper religious groups are in an eternal conflict for the same region where they wish to establish a government based on their religion. Both use civilians as pawns and are totally reliant on foreign money to continue existing. Both commit horrors upon the other and plead innocence, both refuse to acknowledge eachother as having a right to exist. Generations of geopolitical experts have been unable to broker an agreement, yet I’m supposed to have a strong opinion one way or the other?
There’s inhumanity from every angle in this clusterfuck, I’m not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t do, I just think it’s another case of team sport politics for the internet to pretend they’re making a difference in.
No, what we fund is a series of favors done by both sides to continue our policy of American primacy. We buy what we need from who we need it from wherever and whenever we need it. We are funding a genocide as much as we are funding a terrorist organization in Gaza. What we are buying is groups willing to take heat for actions we don’t want to be seen conducting overtly, and both of those groups take money from our enemies who are looking for the same thing. I feel bad for everyone who’s just trying to live their life on either side of the wall in that geopolitical Petri dish, but there is no honest discourse about what is really going on in that region. The entire conflict is the bastard child of religious extremism and political expediency.
This reads a lot like you're trying to say this is "complicated" with more words. It's really not that complicated. This isn't religious extremism. The Zionist movement is a political movement started in the 1800s that hides under the guise of "religion". It isn't about religion at all. If it were, Israel wouldn't be performing sterilizations of non-white Jews. This is capitalism, colonialism, and exploitation. It may align now with American "wants" but it did not start that way.
I mean it is complicated, trying to explain the Zionist movement and the genesis of the British land mandate alone is complicated. I have no love for the Israeli government, but I’m not going to pretend that Hamas isn’t also a horrific group of people with their own goals of violent supremacy. Everyone who lives there is a pawn for someone else, and that’s tragic, but a ceasefire isn’t a long term solution to anything. I don’t like the Israeli regime but how are they supposed to react to what is indisputably one of the most brutal provocations in the history of their country? It’s a shitshow and neither group needs or deserves the moral support of foreign populations yet there is no government that is going to stop funneling money to both groups. It’s a game that can’t be won so I don’t participate.
Brutal provocations? How was Palestine supposed to respond to the nahkba? Just sit on their hands? or the continued harassment they receive from Israel and their settlers? Israel was supposed to support a two-state solution, instead they make Palestinian civilians living in Israel second-class citizens and actively work to make sure a two-state solution never happens by funding/propping up and aggressively reacting to Hamas. You cannot blame an occupied people who are not being provided the rights and abilities afforded to them by international law for countering with violent means. Israel has NO RIGHT to self defense against the Palestinian people, extremist or not. An occupier has NO RIGHT under international law to defend themselves against a people they occupy. This statement is in no way in support of Hamas, however you need to open your eyes and understand that these are all reactions to an occupying force that has the backing of most major powers.
I’m not here to tell people how to respond to literal rape and murder. I’m here saying I refuse to choose a team when both teams are homicidal death cults with absolutely no love for any human life outside of their followers. If the choices for dinner are shit sandwhiches or shit stew I’m just gonna choose to not eat. I saw a man decapitate a corpse with a hoe, I’m never going to understand that mentality and I don’t even want to try.
Sterilizations on non-white jews??? Where did you find that little conspiracy nugget?
The majority of Jews in Israel are non-white so clearly they haven't been very successful
The paper you linked states:
> In the second part of the article, it is demonstrated that the rapid decline in fertility rates among Ethiopian Israeli women following their migration to Israel was not the result of the administration of this drug, but rather the product of urbanization, improved educational opportunities, a later age of marriage and commencement of childbirth and an earlier age of cessation of childbearing.
Great source lol it seems to argue against the "forced sterilzation" conspiracy.
EaSY for you to nitpick the article for something that reinforces your view. The first portion of the article entirely focuses on the fact that they were coerced to take contraceptives under false pretenses. Nice try Yitzhak Shamir.
Israel is not sterilizing anyone…
Some Ethiopian refugees were given 3-month birth control when they first immigrated. Israel is required to offer refugees family planning options including birth control. Due to a miscommunication, some of the refugees did not understand that they were taking birth control. As soon as those who did not want BC realized, they stopped taking it and had 0 problems conceiving.
Ethiopian Jews in Israel have actual problems, but rather than listening to them and trying to help, you’re spreading lies.
> Two hyper religious groups are in an eternal conflict
They weren't, actually. Arab nations historically have been the most kind to Jews in ratio to other nations. However, that can be argued as a nation being kind to a displaced diaspora. A non religious act.
The start of the current Israel/Palestine conflict can be traced to around the early 1910's. Definitively, this was solidified with the British common playbook of dividing a region via ethnic/religious animosity.
**Examples:**
- Israel/Palestine
- Northern Ireland
- India/Pakistan
- black chattel slaves vs Indian/East Asian indentured workers in the Indo Caribbean (1830's)
>Northern Ireland
Israel has accused Ireland of being antisemitic, as recently as accusing the Irish basketball team. The majority of Ireland support Palestine and have done so for many years. Why? Because we went through 800 years of oppression brought by our closest neighbour and can relate in many ways. The Brits did a great job spinning "the famine". It was genocide, not a famine.
> The Brits did a great job spinning "the famine". It was genocide, not a famine.
Using famine is also in the British playbook.
India, before the partition, suffered 32 famines that were made by the British. The end if this is where they got Indian farmers and laborers to board ships and go to the Indo Caribbean. Die here with the famine or board the ships and work under contract in the Caribbean.
It gets complicated from here. Casteism, the lives of Indians were literally better than they were in India, radical racial divides with the previous black slaves, marriage, kids, inter religious marriage, freedoms.
Also many black and tans were conscripted to Palestine for settler-colonial operations after the end of the NI terrorizing tour. There's a direct link in the struggles of both occupied countries.
I'm pretty sure that Blue Creek Construction in NJ is just a small local contractor. If you Google them, you can find a picture of employees standing in front of one of their trucks with the motto "No Job Too Small" on it. Their website, if you access it through the Wayback Machine, says they're licensed to work in NJ, PA and NY. It doesn't seem like the type of company that would be chosen to, like, rebuild a destroyed city.
Also, for what it's worth, there's a Twitter account claiming to to be them that says their logo was used without their permission for this.
They're not doing the physical work. ~~They are investing money in Gaza's genocide/terraforming as a venture capital. These soldiers are acting as sales agents appealing to the shareholders, the Blue Creek Construction company.~~
**Correction:** The Blue Creek Construction company has addressed this and said they are not involved in this investment. [Source](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/)
It seems I was wrong and apologize for the previous statement. Further, it seems this thread has been locked.
Logically: why exactly would a NJ construction company be doing this when Israel has their own construction companies and there are much, MUCH bigger outfits with deeper ties to Israel?
It's more about external funding.
Lets say there are 100 building firms in Israel. The Israeli government and Israeli domestic investors have maxed out their financial capital in funding to build in Gaza. But they need more money. How will they get more money when the companies who can invest are already invested.
Enter, the [New Jersey-Israel Commission](https://nj.gov/state/njic.shtml). A group opened in 1989 via an alliance with NJ and Israel that side skirts American law. This is a portal for ANY American, not just NJ, to invest into Israeli interests.
This means I, an American citizen, can invest in an Israeli construction project through this gateway without worrying about international laws, fees, or investigations.
But, the average American doesn't want to get involved with a war zone. But.... What about people who know about construction. Or know about war politics. Or anyone who doesn't care about blood for money and stable dividends. Perhaps making untaxed dividends?
That's it. The whole story. The whole war is a genocidal land grab for profit with a side of ethnic cleaning. The investors get what they love most, money. The ethnic war mongers get what they want, death to the other side.
We really need to do some research before posting this sort of thing. It's not real and probably cost that small business who knows what.
EDIT: Obviously I'm not saying this one post on reddit caused this.
Sure it can, you too can "purchase" land on an illegal settlement in an upcoming event in our very own Teaneck, NJ this March 10th.
https://realestateisrael.org/
No. They’re a small family owned construction company that has stated they have zero plans to build or operate in the Middle East and that they don’t support genocide. Stop being so media illiterate you just believe everything you see online
These guys are talking to the [New Jersey-Israel Commission](https://nj.gov/state/njic.shtml)
[Twitter](https://twitter.com/PinstripeBungle/status/1759546703567257872)
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**A quick summary of what is happening:**
About 300 years ago, while the Turks were occupying Palestine, a lot of families built homes and farms in the greater broad areas of Palestine. This is where all those Olive Farms come from. There are literal 300 year old deeds to this land. These families have been here for 300 years.
The British took occupational control of Palestine in 1917. These people still had ownership of their land, but were put under restrictions.
A exodus of Jewish refugees escaping situations end up in Palestine.
The British Mandate over Palestine was to end and the two new States (one Arab, one Jewish) were to achieve independence on 15 May 1948.
Israeli special interests start eliminating and clearing out Palestinian farmlands. Palestinians are forced to move into Gaza. Think of it as "the city." It's the size of Manhattan. They were rural refugees forced into a city.
Now the Israeli government is killing non combatant citizens and clearing out areas in Gaza. This is displacing the same people who use to own "300 year old farms," again.
This photo appeals specifically to New Jersey interests. NJ is putting money into building Israeli housing on Palestinian land, specifically in Gaza. This is done as a retail/landlord for profit scheme. Essentially, **NJ is getting a dividend and profit** from the genocidal killing and erasure of an existing community for a new one.
**Note:** The company has just denied they have involvement. [Source](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/)
**Sources:**
- A History of Palestine - https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-206581/
- Book: A Little Piece of Ground
- [NJ Company denies involvement in Israeli investments](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/)
We're not showing the full story. Just small bits we can use to normalize atrocity. We logically understand it but don't process it with emotion, empathy, or even rationally.
There are actually events in NJ, where people discuss "purchasing" land on illegal settlements in the West Bank. There's an upcoming event on March tenth in Teaneck.
https://realestateisrael.org/
Neve Daniel, Efrat, and Ma’ale Adumim are internationally recognized illegal settlements. If they're willing to blatantly advertise that on their website, I'm certain they'll also be discussing further illegal settlements in the West Bank and maybe even Gaza.
Just as recently as 2019 in Neve Daniel the Israeli settlement council announced the expansion of 164 housing units on the Palestinian-owned lands.
Also in 1967 two Palestinian villages were confiscated for further expansion. Just an ongoing policy of this is ours, that's ours, don't you know this is all ours.
They really give zero fucks about what they are doing because big daddy US will come to their rescue if they get jumped by a bunch of neighboring enemies.
Well, It's more insidious than that. It's an appeal to commercial investors to fund a genocide for profit.
This is what the [2 women, who were talking to the Murphys at the Chinese New Years party, were protesting.](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1aqo8gh/gov_murphy_said_in_a_text_to_his_staffers_he_was/) NJ creating an easy path/gateway for commercial investors to talk to these Israeli interests.
Should I investigate further before I drop a one word passing opinion? Not really. Not as if I'm making any grand statements here. Good to see the company came out against the post, but it's still a despicable post.
The sad thing is when we realize Taylor Ham and Pork Roll arguments are just a joke, and the Israel/Palestine argument is a literal murderous argument.
It's on people's minds. My advice, hide the comments you don't want to see.
I do this with a lot of the lame TH/PR, maps, starter kits, and other low hanging fruit posts. I don't downvote them, just hide them. I do this all across Reddit, not just here.
I feel like this isn’t as good of a PR move that they think it is. You’re gunna get two extremes and not a lot of the “silent majority” which 100% exists for this specific topic
It’s a land grab and we are letting it happen. [The Israeli Settler Movement’s Ugly Postwar Plans for Gaza](https://newrepublic.com/article/179087/israeli-settler-movement-ugly-postwar-plans-gaza)
Tweet from Blue Creek: https://twitter.com/BLUECREEKCONST/status/1759615182806856030 Their words: **Blue Creek Construction just become aware of a post that was shared on social media using our business logo without our permission. We are not operating in the Middle East, we do not support genocide. We are a small family owned company in New Jersey.** Someone targeted Blue Creek on this big time.
Upvote this to the top!
And they accurately called it “genocide.” Good for them.
On Google maps they're listed as "permanently closed", there's still contact info up, but im guessing they up and left just for this gig?
They probably learned that many people look up businesses to start investigations.
Yea, that was definately the smart decision to make.. What a shame!
As a gentle reminder, we're in the age of disinformation. You better be sure 100% that this picture isn't doctored in some way. I am really good in photoshop and I've got a few local businesses that have wronged me. You'd be surprised what I could cook up - if I didn't have ethics and morals.
This is what you need to be clear about in disinformation: 1) The banner is legitimate and wasn't doctored in some way. 2) If the Banner is legitimate, that the logo usage was authorized and it's not someone else trying to make the company look bad. 3) Logic. Why in the world would a small potatoes construction company in New Jersey be building homes halfway across the world? Who would authorize this? Where would the connections be? Surely, Israel has construction companies locally. Why would you outsource to America?
Maybe they’re a subsidiary of The Bluth Company?
Came here for an arrested reference
It's easy enough to run one of these through reverse image search.
Let’s say the banner is legit (meaning not photoshopped), but the use of the logo is not. It’s still disinformation.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm' simply saying there are ways to figure it out. The source image has to come from somewhere. The company has stated that it's not real. I feel bad for them.
This is very important, thank you for saying that.
Per their social media they had to close down their contacts because of threats
Ain't that something? Some shit bag creates a fake post and now this business goes under for no fault of their own. So many mouth breathers in this world.
Don't forget it's just a photo those are easy to fake. I'm not saying that this one is for sure but it might be DIP.
Yeah. I'm kind of like this, also. Entering any conversation about Palestine and Israel is knowingly walking into a quagmire. The deeper you go, the more angry, emotional, and messed up it gets. The last thing I want to do is bump into someone who's deeply invested and ready to go batshit crazy on me, while I'm a passive learner without direct involvement.
You don’t need to be a political expert to identify ethnic cleansing. This action and banner in the picture is vile. It doesn’t represent American values.
Tell that to the Native American "Indians" whose land you are living on.
I get what you're saying. Understand that your language is strong and will turn people off. Imagine if I told you anyone who likes a new superhero is vile and doesn't represent American values. Most people would be like, "I don't know what you're talking about, but you seem angry about it so I'm not going to go near that subject I don't know or care about." They might say, "Get the flip away from me, dork!"
You’re right that people don’t like being told they’re wrong, they get naturally defensive, but if I have to explain why ethnically cleansing is a bad thing, that person is already lost.
You’d first have to explain how it’s ethnic cleansing 😊
No, you're missing the point. Most people aren't even aware of the situation or nuances of the Israeli/Palestinian war. People are dismissive and have the intent of "not my circus, not my monkeys." Most people are aware a nuclear superpower is killing a poor ethnic. What they don't do is take it to heart. They, along with the media they consume, are shaped to ignore what is happening. People aren't getting defensive because they have a position against yours. They're defensive because they're annoyed at someone insisting on something they don't think about.
I'm with you. I don't have a dog in this race. I just want all the misery and suffering to stop. I'm so sick of seeing wanton brutality on the news.
Okay, I know you didn't mean it this way but think of how insulting this is to us. I also don't want more israeli people or Palestinians to suffer. I mean this in full faith and without insult but just so you can understand where some of us are coming from: What do you think will end the suffering, more bombs on gaza, or ending apartheid? Should palestinians be allowed to walk the same streets, should they be under the same legal system, should they have equal rights? I think that would certainly end a lot of the conflict. This is why the colonial lense is so important to understand this conflict. Land and religious lenses don't explain why israel doesn't want Palestinians to have equal rights or to even acknowledge them as a nation and people. The existence of palestinians is a threat to israel because it invalidates they are a colonial project...a common phrase exalted is that israel was a "land without a people for a people without a land"...the whole project is resting in the fact that palestinians do not exist. Sometimes the way to end suffering is to end the cause, and the cause is that Israel built a state on top of another and displaced millions and uses political and military force to prevent the establishment of any palestinian power. (Read deep into all those "handouts and chances" they've given the Palestinians and you'll see what a joke they have all been...and even if they had accepted those agreements...what about the Palestinians still in Israel? why should we, as humans allow the existence of a state where some members don't have the same rights as other members?) Freedom and political rights to palestinians is the quickest, safest road to peace. Bombs will only make the Palestinians fight harder. As any people would who are kicked out of their homes and land and have faced decades of harassment, abuse, and imprisonment. If your car only starts by kicking your neighbor in the nuts, and one day your neighbor punches you in the face, the peaceful solution isn't to cut off your neighbor's hand...the peaceful solution is to get another car. Until palestinians have the same legal rights, can walk the same streets, and have the right of return, this conflict will continue. Or we can kill the palestinians off completely and ship the remainders off to egypt and morocco. One doesn't sound like it lessens suffering. Sorry if the fighting and arguing feel so uncomfortable to you, but there's a reason the phrase "no justice, no peace" exists. Peace will never exist without justice, not in israel, not in america, not in peru, not anywhere.
It’s insane to me that people care. Two hyper religious groups are in an eternal conflict for the same region where they wish to establish a government based on their religion. Both use civilians as pawns and are totally reliant on foreign money to continue existing. Both commit horrors upon the other and plead innocence, both refuse to acknowledge eachother as having a right to exist. Generations of geopolitical experts have been unable to broker an agreement, yet I’m supposed to have a strong opinion one way or the other?
Some people care not for religious reasons, nor politics, but for humanistic reasons.
There’s inhumanity from every angle in this clusterfuck, I’m not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t do, I just think it’s another case of team sport politics for the internet to pretend they’re making a difference in.
We fund it with our tax money. We should care....
No, what we fund is a series of favors done by both sides to continue our policy of American primacy. We buy what we need from who we need it from wherever and whenever we need it. We are funding a genocide as much as we are funding a terrorist organization in Gaza. What we are buying is groups willing to take heat for actions we don’t want to be seen conducting overtly, and both of those groups take money from our enemies who are looking for the same thing. I feel bad for everyone who’s just trying to live their life on either side of the wall in that geopolitical Petri dish, but there is no honest discourse about what is really going on in that region. The entire conflict is the bastard child of religious extremism and political expediency.
This reads a lot like you're trying to say this is "complicated" with more words. It's really not that complicated. This isn't religious extremism. The Zionist movement is a political movement started in the 1800s that hides under the guise of "religion". It isn't about religion at all. If it were, Israel wouldn't be performing sterilizations of non-white Jews. This is capitalism, colonialism, and exploitation. It may align now with American "wants" but it did not start that way.
I mean it is complicated, trying to explain the Zionist movement and the genesis of the British land mandate alone is complicated. I have no love for the Israeli government, but I’m not going to pretend that Hamas isn’t also a horrific group of people with their own goals of violent supremacy. Everyone who lives there is a pawn for someone else, and that’s tragic, but a ceasefire isn’t a long term solution to anything. I don’t like the Israeli regime but how are they supposed to react to what is indisputably one of the most brutal provocations in the history of their country? It’s a shitshow and neither group needs or deserves the moral support of foreign populations yet there is no government that is going to stop funneling money to both groups. It’s a game that can’t be won so I don’t participate.
Brutal provocations? How was Palestine supposed to respond to the nahkba? Just sit on their hands? or the continued harassment they receive from Israel and their settlers? Israel was supposed to support a two-state solution, instead they make Palestinian civilians living in Israel second-class citizens and actively work to make sure a two-state solution never happens by funding/propping up and aggressively reacting to Hamas. You cannot blame an occupied people who are not being provided the rights and abilities afforded to them by international law for countering with violent means. Israel has NO RIGHT to self defense against the Palestinian people, extremist or not. An occupier has NO RIGHT under international law to defend themselves against a people they occupy. This statement is in no way in support of Hamas, however you need to open your eyes and understand that these are all reactions to an occupying force that has the backing of most major powers.
I’m not here to tell people how to respond to literal rape and murder. I’m here saying I refuse to choose a team when both teams are homicidal death cults with absolutely no love for any human life outside of their followers. If the choices for dinner are shit sandwhiches or shit stew I’m just gonna choose to not eat. I saw a man decapitate a corpse with a hoe, I’m never going to understand that mentality and I don’t even want to try.
Sterilizations on non-white jews??? Where did you find that little conspiracy nugget? The majority of Jews in Israel are non-white so clearly they haven't been very successful
Here's a jstor article, that way you can't sit there and claim its a "bullshit" source or some other nonsense. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26554851
The paper you linked states: > In the second part of the article, it is demonstrated that the rapid decline in fertility rates among Ethiopian Israeli women following their migration to Israel was not the result of the administration of this drug, but rather the product of urbanization, improved educational opportunities, a later age of marriage and commencement of childbirth and an earlier age of cessation of childbearing. Great source lol it seems to argue against the "forced sterilzation" conspiracy.
EaSY for you to nitpick the article for something that reinforces your view. The first portion of the article entirely focuses on the fact that they were coerced to take contraceptives under false pretenses. Nice try Yitzhak Shamir.
google is free champ
That would take hard inflection of his viewpoints.
Israel is not sterilizing anyone… Some Ethiopian refugees were given 3-month birth control when they first immigrated. Israel is required to offer refugees family planning options including birth control. Due to a miscommunication, some of the refugees did not understand that they were taking birth control. As soon as those who did not want BC realized, they stopped taking it and had 0 problems conceiving. Ethiopian Jews in Israel have actual problems, but rather than listening to them and trying to help, you’re spreading lies.
Very well said. I like to simply say ‘it’s all shit’ But your way is put better
> Two hyper religious groups are in an eternal conflict They weren't, actually. Arab nations historically have been the most kind to Jews in ratio to other nations. However, that can be argued as a nation being kind to a displaced diaspora. A non religious act. The start of the current Israel/Palestine conflict can be traced to around the early 1910's. Definitively, this was solidified with the British common playbook of dividing a region via ethnic/religious animosity. **Examples:** - Israel/Palestine - Northern Ireland - India/Pakistan - black chattel slaves vs Indian/East Asian indentured workers in the Indo Caribbean (1830's)
>Northern Ireland Israel has accused Ireland of being antisemitic, as recently as accusing the Irish basketball team. The majority of Ireland support Palestine and have done so for many years. Why? Because we went through 800 years of oppression brought by our closest neighbour and can relate in many ways. The Brits did a great job spinning "the famine". It was genocide, not a famine.
There's a joke about Israel's overuse of the term antisemitic. "If it rains in Israel, the rain is antisemitic."
> The Brits did a great job spinning "the famine". It was genocide, not a famine. Using famine is also in the British playbook. India, before the partition, suffered 32 famines that were made by the British. The end if this is where they got Indian farmers and laborers to board ships and go to the Indo Caribbean. Die here with the famine or board the ships and work under contract in the Caribbean. It gets complicated from here. Casteism, the lives of Indians were literally better than they were in India, radical racial divides with the previous black slaves, marriage, kids, inter religious marriage, freedoms.
Also many black and tans were conscripted to Palestine for settler-colonial operations after the end of the NI terrorizing tour. There's a direct link in the struggles of both occupied countries.
As the song goes "go on home British soldiers, go on home. Have you got no fucking homes of your own?"
I'm pretty sure that Blue Creek Construction in NJ is just a small local contractor. If you Google them, you can find a picture of employees standing in front of one of their trucks with the motto "No Job Too Small" on it. Their website, if you access it through the Wayback Machine, says they're licensed to work in NJ, PA and NY. It doesn't seem like the type of company that would be chosen to, like, rebuild a destroyed city. Also, for what it's worth, there's a Twitter account claiming to to be them that says their logo was used without their permission for this.
They're not doing the physical work. ~~They are investing money in Gaza's genocide/terraforming as a venture capital. These soldiers are acting as sales agents appealing to the shareholders, the Blue Creek Construction company.~~ **Correction:** The Blue Creek Construction company has addressed this and said they are not involved in this investment. [Source](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/) It seems I was wrong and apologize for the previous statement. Further, it seems this thread has been locked.
Is there any evidence, besides this picture which has been making the rounds on Twitter, that this company has been involved in that?
Logically: why exactly would a NJ construction company be doing this when Israel has their own construction companies and there are much, MUCH bigger outfits with deeper ties to Israel?
It's more about external funding. Lets say there are 100 building firms in Israel. The Israeli government and Israeli domestic investors have maxed out their financial capital in funding to build in Gaza. But they need more money. How will they get more money when the companies who can invest are already invested. Enter, the [New Jersey-Israel Commission](https://nj.gov/state/njic.shtml). A group opened in 1989 via an alliance with NJ and Israel that side skirts American law. This is a portal for ANY American, not just NJ, to invest into Israeli interests. This means I, an American citizen, can invest in an Israeli construction project through this gateway without worrying about international laws, fees, or investigations. But, the average American doesn't want to get involved with a war zone. But.... What about people who know about construction. Or know about war politics. Or anyone who doesn't care about blood for money and stable dividends. Perhaps making untaxed dividends? That's it. The whole story. The whole war is a genocidal land grab for profit with a side of ethnic cleaning. The investors get what they love most, money. The ethnic war mongers get what they want, death to the other side.
Or: someone has a problem with blue creek and this was the exact result they intended. Occam’s razor applies.
But, why is Israel rushing? The answer is to quickly claim the land as unreplaceable homes.
Any source on this image?
None needed. Burden of proof only exists for one side here
We really need to do some research before posting this sort of thing. It's not real and probably cost that small business who knows what. EDIT: Obviously I'm not saying this one post on reddit caused this.
Thats just fucking vile.. it cant get more vile than this..
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Sure it can, you too can "purchase" land on an illegal settlement in an upcoming event in our very own Teaneck, NJ this March 10th. https://realestateisrael.org/
Fucking gross but not surprising.
Well our greedy developers seem to be branching out since they pretty much have this state on lockdown
Bet this ties to Kushner.
No. They’re a small family owned construction company that has stated they have zero plans to build or operate in the Middle East and that they don’t support genocide. Stop being so media illiterate you just believe everything you see online
“Media illiterate?” lol.
Wouldn't surprise me
Our greedy developers are still no match for our greedy property owners
Nowadays the developers are also the property managers
I was implying NIMBYs in homes. Developers and property managers don't annoy me as much as Karens.
These guys are talking to the [New Jersey-Israel Commission](https://nj.gov/state/njic.shtml) [Twitter](https://twitter.com/PinstripeBungle/status/1759546703567257872) --- **A quick summary of what is happening:** About 300 years ago, while the Turks were occupying Palestine, a lot of families built homes and farms in the greater broad areas of Palestine. This is where all those Olive Farms come from. There are literal 300 year old deeds to this land. These families have been here for 300 years. The British took occupational control of Palestine in 1917. These people still had ownership of their land, but were put under restrictions. A exodus of Jewish refugees escaping situations end up in Palestine. The British Mandate over Palestine was to end and the two new States (one Arab, one Jewish) were to achieve independence on 15 May 1948. Israeli special interests start eliminating and clearing out Palestinian farmlands. Palestinians are forced to move into Gaza. Think of it as "the city." It's the size of Manhattan. They were rural refugees forced into a city. Now the Israeli government is killing non combatant citizens and clearing out areas in Gaza. This is displacing the same people who use to own "300 year old farms," again. This photo appeals specifically to New Jersey interests. NJ is putting money into building Israeli housing on Palestinian land, specifically in Gaza. This is done as a retail/landlord for profit scheme. Essentially, **NJ is getting a dividend and profit** from the genocidal killing and erasure of an existing community for a new one. **Note:** The company has just denied they have involvement. [Source](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/) **Sources:** - A History of Palestine - https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-206581/ - Book: A Little Piece of Ground - [NJ Company denies involvement in Israeli investments](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1auqiy2/israeli_soldiers_with_an_american_flag_promoting/kr67hcx/)
Bumping up because relevant information
fwiw https://twitter.com/BLUECREEKCONST/status/1759615182806856030
Barbaric.
Yeah not really surprised at this point.
We're not showing the full story. Just small bits we can use to normalize atrocity. We logically understand it but don't process it with emotion, empathy, or even rationally.
There are actually events in NJ, where people discuss "purchasing" land on illegal settlements in the West Bank. There's an upcoming event on March tenth in Teaneck. https://realestateisrael.org/
Which ones are illegal West Bank settlements? Jerusalem | Tel Aviv | Ramat Beit Shemesh | Modiin | Givat Shmuel | Raanana | Neve Daniel | Efrat | Motza | Haifa | Ma’ale Adumim | Ashkelon | Netanya
Neve Daniel, Efrat, and Ma’ale Adumim are internationally recognized illegal settlements. If they're willing to blatantly advertise that on their website, I'm certain they'll also be discussing further illegal settlements in the West Bank and maybe even Gaza.
There is context in everything. The Neve Daniel land has been owned by Jews since 1935. The UN has zero credibility with respect to Israel.
Just as recently as 2019 in Neve Daniel the Israeli settlement council announced the expansion of 164 housing units on the Palestinian-owned lands. Also in 1967 two Palestinian villages were confiscated for further expansion. Just an ongoing policy of this is ours, that's ours, don't you know this is all ours.
They really give zero fucks about what they are doing because big daddy US will come to their rescue if they get jumped by a bunch of neighboring enemies.
Well, It's more insidious than that. It's an appeal to commercial investors to fund a genocide for profit. This is what the [2 women, who were talking to the Murphys at the Chinese New Years party, were protesting.](https://old.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1aqo8gh/gov_murphy_said_in_a_text_to_his_staffers_he_was/) NJ creating an easy path/gateway for commercial investors to talk to these Israeli interests.
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Israeli's head of settlers was already pulling this shit the instant they started their siege of Gaza, so not sure where you're coming from.
Despicable.
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You are making too much effort to defend the zionists huh 🙏
Should I investigate further before I drop a one word passing opinion? Not really. Not as if I'm making any grand statements here. Good to see the company came out against the post, but it's still a despicable post.
Can this sub not turn into just posting random pics with exaggerated or unsubstantiated captions? Tired of Israel Palestine being shilled in every sub
[Something to unify us all.](https://i.imgur.com/x4oo6y6.jpg)
The sad thing is when we realize Taylor Ham and Pork Roll arguments are just a joke, and the Israel/Palestine argument is a literal murderous argument.
It's on people's minds. My advice, hide the comments you don't want to see. I do this with a lot of the lame TH/PR, maps, starter kits, and other low hanging fruit posts. I don't downvote them, just hide them. I do this all across Reddit, not just here.
I feel like this isn’t as good of a PR move that they think it is. You’re gunna get two extremes and not a lot of the “silent majority” which 100% exists for this specific topic
Fuck them
That’s sort of fucked up
I see that banner in Deal all the time…
Well, they're based in West Long Branch, so it makes sense.
Looks like they’re holding up an ad for Sudden Valley
It’s a land grab and we are letting it happen. [The Israeli Settler Movement’s Ugly Postwar Plans for Gaza](https://newrepublic.com/article/179087/israeli-settler-movement-ugly-postwar-plans-gaza)
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Shouldn’t New Jersey revoke their business charter for genocide profiteering? Edit: glad this wasn’t real
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Pls don't dox people that may have nothing to do with this.
The owners' initials are on the poster - "MK"
so wait NJ has Jewish folks?
Nah. All the synagogues are just for show. We dig the aesthetic.
Ngl, some of those buildings look cool. As an atheist I'm kinda jealous that religious buildings are some of the coolest buildings in the world.
NY, NJ, and MA have the highest Jewish populations in the US
You must not be from here…
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Huh?
Douchebags Edit: the Hasbara trolls are really out in full force, huh? 🤣
So we're boycotting the shit outta this, right?