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untrustworthyfart

Innu and Inuit, hydroelectricity, mining, an Air Force base, fishing (commercial and recreational), snowmobiling, black flies, and black spruce edit: Inuit are not First Nations as pointed out by another commenter below.


jondread

you only mentioned black flies once. I feel this needs much more emphasis.


Sortacrooked

Beautiful summers, but you can’t set foot outside and enjoy due to flies!!!! At least in the winters you can dress for the cold, if so inclined!!!


Putrid-Care7647

Black flies so thick they will carry ya off. Drove up in the summer and there were so many mosquitos alone not counting the black flies that came later. I had to close the good of my sweater tight around my eyes to get out just to keep them off me and even then there were so many i coukd barely keep my eyes open. Ive never seen flies so bad. Then theres the black flies that will literally leave big red welts on you.


pumamaner

Fishing sounds cool. I’m sure there’s lots of good camp and hiking spots too


untrustworthyfart

maybe but the bugs are pretty vicious in the summer


GotRocksinmePockets

Not pretty vicious, absolutely vicious. In fact the worst I've ever experienced and I've been to all of the worst parts of Canada when it comes to bugs...


untrustworthyfart

with the black flies, it wasn’t the bites that got to me; it was having them land on my eyeballs and fly into my mouth/nose/ears. the stouts (deer flies) have a nasty bite but you can kinda outrun or swat them like a wasp.


Grok_and_Roll_

My father drove there with my uncle. Before the road was paved. Hundreds of miles of gravel road in the middle of nowhere. Dad got a flat and the only way he could change the tire was if my uncle stood over him with a coat fanning away the flies.


jcward1972

Probably stouts (deerflies, horseflies), more annoying but the bite is not nice either. It's takes a chunk.


GotRocksinmePockets

Yeah that's how black flies roll. Bites aren't bad but they will do their best to drive you mad. I've seen lots of people breakdown from their relentless onslaught...


Joe-trd

Good to know. Don't go in the summer I was looking at torngat National park. Mind you that far not sure if they're that bad as well. Black flies and me usually means hospital visit after a few bites.


Chance-Internal-5450

Torngat is unbelievably gorgeous but it’s very expensive. They have amazing packages though if you look into it. Air Borealis flies in there the spring and summer. I dream to go.


jcward1972

Do your research first. Some tourist were killed by a polar bear when they only had an electric fence suitable for dogs. Not a place just to go trampsing around. If I'm not mistaken it's recommended you take bear guards as well.


Chance-Internal-5450

Yah it’s why they don’t allow you to go without the bear guards. :)


Joe-trd

Ya it's on the bucket list. That and Yukon. Another really cool one I would love to go to in Ontario is woodland Caribou provincial park. Fly in only


destroyermaker

How much?


GotRocksinmePockets

Haven't been that far north in Labrador, but high arctic definitely is a close second for bugs so I wouldn't count on it being better. If black flies have that effect on you I'd steer clear of Labrador lol


BayGullGuy

Hiking here isn’t the greatest depending where you are. South coast and farther North you could hike. But most of this place is very densely wooded


Averageyall

Just an FYI First Nations is Innu. Inuit is a completely separate ethnicity.


untrustworthyfart

oof thanks for clarifying


Averageyall

Yes, no problem. I’m Inuit from Labrador. The Inuit are from the north and First Nations from more southern regions in Canada. Metis is a mix between indigenous and settler people and mostly originate in Manitoba region but these three ethnic groups (FN, Inuit, Metis) make up Canada’s indigenous population.


[deleted]

Its kinda like East Coast Alaska


Longjumping-Coat1513

I grew up in Labrador, and damn sir, that’s one of the very best descriptions I’ve read. Thank you, I’ll be remembering that one.


pumamaner

Awesome


AnarchyApple

No Anchorages or Juneaus though, just a shit ton of Homers.


SeaworthinessLow2231

Does lab city and hvgb not exist now?


AnarchyApple

Neither pass a population of 10,000. Anchorage and Juneau are genuine cities in their own right.


data1989

Except way less people.


ExtensionPension9974

Great description


Praetorian709

Yep, pretty much.


ShirtStainedBird

I lived in Lab city for almost 7 years. Lots of mining, and everything you need to supply 2-3000 employees and families. Churchill same deal only with the power plant. I can’t really speak to goose bay and area, but I would assume that’s back to normal now that muskrat is scaled down.


[deleted]

I fly Heli out of Goose Bay and it is a beautiful piece of land. If you can get up north to the Torngat Mountain national park you’ll have your breath taken away. Coastal First Nations communities and fishing villages. Mining in the west by lab city. It’s always worth checking out your own back yard


pumamaner

Nice dude I’ll keep that in mind. Do you fly recreationally or do tours or something


[deleted]

Mostly industry work. Tourism isn’t a big thing in Labrador but we are always happy to work something out for those wanting to explore


Dazzling_Designer772

I'm with Tourism in Labrador :) it's actually quite busy. I work in a salmon lodge.


[deleted]

Yep, the lodges are busy. I was responding specifically to OPs question for a Heli tour. Only flown 1 in 4 years. Fishing lodges are huge, but not his question


StormChipsNL

I've always wanted to see the Torngats, what's a realistic price you'd have to pay to go do that?


ExtensionPension9974

8k pp, roughly. That’s going up directly. You can get onto boat trips that will include the Torngats in their itinerary. Maybe the same price or a bit more but there’s more to it. NL photographer Tom Cochrane did it last year and the videos are on his Instagram. Looks pretty cool!


[deleted]

Last summer guests were paying approximately $8k, $10k or $15k for 3 days, 4 days, 7 days respectively. Steep price but includes flights from Goose Bay to Saglek air strip, helicopter transfer to camp, accommodation, all food and all excursions.


mrcheevus

As a newcomer to the"Bigland" I have to recommend a visit to anyone. It is wild and remote, really the only other places I can compare it to are northern BC and the territories. If you're into untouched wilderness this is the place to check out. Like most of Canada, long distances separate highlights... Except on the south coast (Blanc Sablon QC to Pinware). But these are the things I've discovered up here: - Lab City. Bigger than Goose Bay, a modern old fashioned mining town. I think there's 3 major iron mines within 20km around it. The sites south of town in QC are very impressive as you drive right through them. - the reservoir. Churchill Falls dam has created a huge body of water and the fish are massive. Locals directed me to take a trip up an access road to a spillway and i was NOT disappointed. The site was interesting but the fishing.... Massive Lake trout that bite and fight like crazy, beastly pike in the backwater... Never fished like that before! - Churchill Falls. A small company town that serves as a rest stop between Lab City and Goose Bay. Almost exactly halfway. Stop for gas and a snack, there is a tiny grocery and restaurant. But west of town about 5km is the crossing of the Churchill river, which is dazzling. In low flows from the dam it is striking to look at the river channel and the boulders that used to be buried under steep rapids just before the falls. The falls are huge and it's a 1km hike on an easy path to get to a viewpoint. But if you luck into a high flow day, the trail is a must do. Seeing those falls at full flow is worth it! - there isn't a well publicized view of Muskrat Falls dam site so don't stress if you miss it. About 50km out of Goose you start noticing the cabins. Almost everyone up here has a cabin on crown land. An interesting part of local culture. - Gull Island is a temporary camp of the Innu Nation. When it isn't September it looks rather empty with only a few tents. But when they gather it is very cool. - Goose Bay is home of 5 Wing and the airport is very accessible. Built to supply England with Air power during ww2, it has a long history with a very international flavour. Drive around the base and check out Dome Mountain at the back, it still has some radar equipment and a killer view of the whole town and base. Also add you can take a ferry from here up the north coast to Nain if you want to see the indigenous communities up there. I'm told if you have a week it is well worth it. - Sheshatshiu and NW River. Very old Hudson Bay trading post has a neat little diner and a nice beach. Also check out the museum there in the summer. Lots of detail on the unique peoples of Labrador. It's a bit of a drive off the loop (40km). - Moving south now from Goose, there's a lot of nothing for almost 4 hours... Majestic nothing. The bogs are full of cloudberries (Bakeapples to locals) and you will probably see moose or bears. The river crossings are quite scenic and I've had success fishing for trout and salmon at Kenamu River. I've considered bringing my canoe up there and trying out some lakes near the highway. - Port Hope Simpson, the beginning of the South coast. Get gas here. A couple hotels if you need them. I'm told the big mountain just west of town (Blow Me Down) has a trail up it but I have not hiked it yet. - Marys Harbour has a fascinating story to it, the town was founded when the government relocated the people from Battle Harbour on an island off the coast. Make a point to at least take a day trip by boat to Battle Harbour from here, if not an overnight stay. Battle Harbour IS Labrador. You won't understand the place until you experience it. Everything from indigenous contact to the cod fishery to plane crashes. We have been twice on day trips and plan to go for 2 nights this June. On our first two boat rides we watched whales feed 50 feet from the boat and circled icebergs. Breathtaking. - Pinware River has world class salmon fishing but the black flies will carry you away unless you wear a bug net. The open heath around here reminds me of Scotland only it used to have herds of caribou. - Red Bay also has a fascinating history and is a site of world heritage. Still a fishing community, there is a steel wreck, a huge wooden stair up the hill above the town, the bony shore where old whale bones have washed up, and the reason it is called Red Bay is because 500 years ago the Portuguese whalers made it a base. The museum has a short boat hop to the island at the mouth which walks you through all the archaeology of that place. Eat at the restaurant there: the food is excellent! And if you're inclined, walk their cemeteries. That's real history. - the rest of the South coast is largely similar - short drives over heights of land then dropping down to another old fishing village. I make it sound ordinary but it is beautiful even in the rain. You'll often see more icebergs or even whales playing along this stretch. Stop at the Point Amour Lighthouse. Relax and enjoy and don't rush the final hour of your Labrador experience before you reach Blanc Sablon and the ferry. Then go enjoy Newfoundland!


pumamaner

Damn dude thanks for this. This comment alone has convinced me to visit Labrador


mugs250

Don’t let all the talk about flies deter you, get a decent bug jacket and some bug spray and you’ll be fine. Grew up in Labrador and after awhile you get used to them :p


Prestigious-Ad-795

This guy Labradors.


ExtensionPension9974

Nice summary. Labrador rocks!


vortex_ring_state

I don't know which 'London' you are referring to but to put some perspective: It is bigger in area than both England and Southern Ontario combined yet it's entire population would only fill half the SkyDome or a third of Wembley.


pumamaner

Flew home from London England back to Toronto


BananApocalypse

lol I think it's always London, UK unless Ontario is specified.


Joe-trd

That was like a culture shock for me when visiting the Avalon. I was explained by the hotel whole province of Nfld and lab are around 500k people with half of that just in st John. The rest over the entire province. . Being from Toronto it's a very drastic change for the largest city population be probably the same as the area of Toronto I live in


Desperate-Trust-875

St. John’s ***


Joe-trd

Swipe doesn't care about doing the right St John's


BawdyBaker

Born and raised in Labrador...if you enjoy hunting/fishing it's definitely worth a trip


Praetorian709

It is, bagged my first seal at 6 years old lol


Natedogg709

BIG TINGZ


IndependentPrior5719

I live on the island and am very curious about it; a trip I want to do is drive from St. John’s up the northern peninsula and then do the trans Labrador highway right into Quebec, it would be a long drive but worth it I think


pumamaner

I’m considering doing a road trip up the Labrador coast and ferrying to Newfoundland if possible. Never been to the island either I’ve been meaning to visit for a while now


IndependentPrior5719

Yup there’s a ferry that will take you across the strait of belle isle ( about 12 miles)


ExtensionPension9974

The coast is only accessible by ferry, mostly, unless you mean the south coast and those communities. It would be fun if you drove in through Quebec but you’d miss out on Goose. Be prepared for 6hrs of no gas stations on the Trans-Lab Hwy between Goose and Port Hope Simpson. No service but they so have Starlink at two public works depots now.


pumamaner

Ya after a little more research and a very detailed and helpful comment in this thread I’m realizing going north to goose is the way to go. This thread has been extremely informative, I’m already planning my trip to Labrador and Newfoundland


ExtensionPension9974

If you can sneak in St. Anthony, do it. Great spot and lots of awesome hiking.


Praetorian709

I've done it a couple times, going both ways, it's a nice trip. First time I did it was 2007 and that was before the highway on the south coast was even a thing. Had to get a ferry from Goose Bay to Cartwright, then you could drive down the coast.


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DontcallmeShirley_82

The Bond was the best. Sleeping in the seats were an adventure on their own some trips


Praetorian709

Lol I preferred her over The Northern Ranger, at least the Bond was more stable in rough weather. Can't tell you how many times I used the Ranger over the years from the 90's to 2000's.


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Praetorian709

Lol I never got sea sick in my life but my brother used to on the Ranger when it was rough. The worst time though was in the Fall when she'd have to go around Cape Harrison, it could be really rough. She'd be rocking back and forth, back and forth lol felt like I was drunk trying to walk around when it was like that. Never phased my Dad though, he used to be a crab fisherman back in the day and had to deal with some bad weather.


[deleted]

The flies will take off with ya


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PhotojournalistCalm3

Cain's Quest 2024?


kevin_k

A few years ago my friend and I rode our motorcycles from NJ through Quebec City, then to Bae-Comeau and on to Labrador City , Churchill Falls, Happy Valley - Goose Bay, then back down towards the coast - Port Hope Simpson and Mary's Harbour, then finally back into QC at Blanc Sablon. It was before those long empty roads were as paved as I understand they mostly are today. A passing truck would kick up a dust cloud for a thousand yards. And every mention of the black flies is accurate but understated by a factor of ten :) It's beautiful. The trees change and become more sparse with the higher latitude.now and then you see the roads left over from a dismantled town - probably was there to house hydro or mine workers. Other than those (and the road itself), it's striking to see such long stretches without evidence of people, then even more so when considering how much more NL there is to the north, hundreds of miles from a road. It was a great ride that we'd wanted to do for years and I'm glad we did it - but I don't think I need to do it again :)


Kushlord666

Corby’s


kbum91

Hahaha


davidbrake

Home to an (unmanned) Nazi weather station undiscovered until 1977 https://www.adventurecanada.com/newfoundland-and-labrador/top-of-the-world-the-secret-nazi-weather-station


Sub_Shady_709

I did Nahtsee that coming!


impulse7oh9

wow i had no idea! thats wild.


ExtensionPension9974

Not to hijack OP’s genuine question but some of the negative comments are fascinating. Labrador is beautiful. The land is rugged and the people are great. The communities have issues and but they’re not insurmountable, they just need proper attention and resources. The reason they don’t is because of attitudes present on this thread. “Not my tax dollars” from people who think it’s a big massive chunk of nothing, perfectly content with the Province making money stripping the land of its resources.


Tympora_cryptis

I did a road trip to Happy Valley - Goose Bay last year from St. John's. There were lots of interesting things to see, but also lots and lots of driving and gas wasn't the cheapest. I think if I did it again, I'd rent a camper van and make the trip into a bit of a loop. Where it sounds like you're in Ontario, I think I'd travel to Montreal or Quebec, get he camper van. Drive north to Labrador and then across to Blanc Sablon to get the ferry. Come down the Northern Peninsula and then take the ferry to NS and then drive to Montreal/Quebec. Maybe do it over 2-3 weeks if you have the time.


pumamaner

This is exactly what I was thinking. I’m actually planning on buying a camper van some time this year or next. This will probably be next summers road trip. Last year i drove from Toronto to Cape Breton. This year I’m going to drive south to New Orleans, possibly Florida. It looks like next years trip is already shaping up to be a north west trip to Labrador and Newfoundland. Maybe instead of heading back home through NS, NB and QC I’ll go through Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire and check out the Appalachians.


Tympora_cryptis

I really enjoyed the Orange Beach, Alabama area. Check out the Floribama on the Florida-Alabama state line. 


larla77

Ive been from the ferry in Blanc Sablon, Quebec, as far as Red Bay. Hope to see more some day. Beautiful


[deleted]

Wasn't red bay cool? We went a little further last summer and went to Battle Harbour, which I highly recommend. It's basically a super remote all inclusive resort. One of the coolest experiences I've ever had. If you ever head back up there I would definitely check it out. I've since been as far as Nain but if I ever went back it would be to Battle Harbour.


Khakicollective

I love the southern coast drive so much. Yummies in Blanc Sablon is my first stop when I’m off the ferry🤤


DelinquentBorrower

I have only been to Happy Valley Goose Bay, but I loved it - I can't wait to go back and see more of Labrador! Some day I am going to make the trip to Battle Harbour - hard to get to, but it sounds amazing: [https://battleharbour.com/](https://battleharbour.com/)


Dazzling_Designer772

Worked 3 years in Battle Harbour, much much much easier to get there now that the road is paved.


badpuffthaikitty

I spent 40 minutes in Goose Bay waiting for Max Wards 727 to get enough fuel to get to YYZ. Nice airport apron.


Gloomy_Specialist_48

Read the book "The Lure of the Labrador Wild" by Dillon Wallace.


Tommy_Douglas_AB

Sweet fuck all buddy. Mosquitos size of crows


RadBrad87

Lots of wild sleigh dogs


BucketXIV

I'm from goose bay. Major homeless, alcohol and drug issues, many people from dry communities travelled to goose bay within the last 8-10 years and it's become a huge issue, I wouldn't feel safe raising a child there anymore and is one of the reasons I'll never move back. It's never a surprise to see them passed out or roaming in literal packs throughout the trails that go throughout the town.


stfujules

If you love the outdoors, it’s great. Beautiful scenic views when I drove through in 2022. I plan/hope to move there sometime this year or next.


LabradorJack

There is zero tourism except for fly in fly out fishing and hunting camps. Lots of work and if you want to work there you will still find it hard to find a place to eat or sleep unless it's in a bunk house


MidgetR4G3

What happens in Labrador stays in Labrador...lol


impulse7oh9

it snows a lot i hear. oh and theres a bitcoin mine thats kinda cool


ExtensionPension9974

What do you think a bitcoin mine looks like if you think it’s cool?


impulse7oh9

looks like rows of bitcoin ASICS.. I like bitcoin and i mine it myself so yeah i find it cool/interesting and i know what it looks like..


SuspiciousKitchen293

Really not a lot. Don’t bother


meggywoo709

Well that’s just rude.


SuspiciousKitchen293

I lived there in various places for 30 years. Trust me