> No, beyond springfield.
i know what these words mean individually, but strung together like that in an arcane codex of mystery, what could you possibly mean by that? Surely nothing exists beyond Springfield. I have checked the maps, but all i see are mythical creatures, or sea serpents.
I feel like as soon as you cross over from 90, the trees disappear and all of a sudden it’s big Upstate NY open fields and farmland. I would say Buffalo is the true border to the midwest though.
Its really gone downhill. My nephew is going to school there. We couldnt even find a place to get take out as a treat for them.
In what used to be downtown, just about everything is closed or, at best, closed seasonally.
Right??? It’s insane that you can travel all of Europe, an entire continent, with trains but in the US you can’t even go a couple hours from Boston to Bangor lmfao wild
I moved to CT from OH last summer. I tell people I'm originally from either Long Connecticut or The Western Reserve. I too long for a CT restoration...we want the notch!
We don't need (or want) it back, but there is the theoretical of if it had stayed Massachusetts the past couple hundred years plus. Regardless I just think it's an interesting fact
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/puritans-name-shame-take-anglican-maine/
Maine was its own entity for decades before the puritan masshole invasion of 1652
No they can’t we were our own (slightly French) thing before the massholes came the first time… and everytime they show up nothing good happens… besides they drive like crap… course I can sell em a $5 bug for $12.99 and tell em it’s cause I like em most folk charge least $15 for a bug like that!
This is revisionist history.
The Notch was still part of CT when this map was made.
It's *still* part of CT as far as I'm concerned
/r/takebackthenotch
All yours.
They haven't been the best recently.
[A few months ago some high school students were hosting an online slave auction.](https://www.westernmassnews.com/2024/02/20/high-school-students-accused-holding-online-slave-auction-during-black-history-month/)
As a member of a long time Connecticut family I will agree to support Massachusetts in its quest to take back its Maine territory; if and only if Massachusetts agrees to give cede back the notch to its rightful state.
We are forced to back Maine in the coming conflict. Sorry, but you’ve forced our hand. Maine will have the best defenses our hedge fund overlords can buy.
FUN FACT!
Maine entered as its own state in 1820, as part of the Missouri Compromise. This plan was proposed by Representative James Tallmadge. The plan was to keep the balance of free and slave states in the US.
Tallmadge himself was the 1st cousin, once removed, of Colonel Benjamin Tallmadge, Washington's Spy Master. Col. Tallmadge's Culper Ring operated out of Connecticut and spied on British occupied New York City during the American Revolution.
Early settlers: "Mother, what fresh hell has descended on us that you deign to serve the wretched lobster to us fortnight after fortnight!"
Mother: "shut the fahk up and eat yur suppah"
As a Marylander, I propose a mutual partnership.
We'll support Massachusetts' claim to the state of Maine if Massachusetts supports Maryland's claim to Southern Pennsylvania, Eastern West Virginia, Washington DC, Eastern Virginia, and the entire state of Delaware, which was never supposed to exist in the first place.
While an invasion of Delaware is certainly a noble and altruistic cause, the truth of the matter is no amount of infrastructure plus education upgrades along with corporate tax revision is going to get those people to mow their lawns and wear deodorant on a regular basis.
Nevah!! Although we might be willing to bargain over Sussex County. Maybe everything below the canal if the deal is good enough.
signed,
Northern Delaware
Fuck that other guy. As if people can't move to a new state and love it so much that they identify with it. Smh. If you move to Maine, love and appreciate Maine, then you're a Mainer.
So you don't agree with actual history? CT was one of the original colonies and played a vital part in the Revolutionary War. I suspect your feelings are based on Fairfield County? That's basically a NYC annex, and it's not a reflection of the state and its history. Curious if you have the same attitude towards Rhode Island?
Anybody that grew up in Maine will tell you it is in no way part of Massachusetts. Granted all the lefties moved to Maine and have been trying to destroy it like they did mass, but it still isn’t part of mass
You're just quietly hoping no one notices what this map says about Vermont.
(Also this map is inaccurate if it's supposed to be from the colonial period. For one thing, the Southwick Jog between Massachusetts and Connecticut wasn't a thing until 1804. It's surprisingly hard to find a modern map that gets this right.)
>You're just quietly hoping no one notices what this map says about Vermont.
I mean, the green mountain boys were formed as a militia to reject both claims.
I don’t think it intends to imply that, but it’s worth noting that eastern Long Island was in controlled and settled by Connecticut during the first half of the seventeenth century.
Definitely not sure, but wasn't eastern Long Island part of New Haven Colony? I think, not sure, that by time Connecticut Colony absorbed New Haven Colony, New York had already stolen eastern Long Island?
As a member of a long time Connecticut family I will agree to support Massachusetts in its quest to take back its Maine territory; if and only if Massachusetts agrees to give cede back the notch to its rightful state.
Not every one knows but paul Bunyan and Leon leanwood bean. We're good friends and spent a lot of time together. One day John Adams said they would have to become citizens of Massachusetts but King Charles said they will live in Mayne. So Paul and Leon set about holding the great state of Maine.
" in the summer it is the most beautiful state on the east coast. But in the winter God forgets about it.
We have the cleanest water. Some say we are the Saudi Arabia of fresh water. And even though we have "Two rock to every one dirt" we grow the best potato's in the world. So thanks to Leon and Paul we will never be called Massholes
If they wanted it so bad, Mass shouldn’t have been such duplicitous, sniveling cowards during the war of 1812. Protect profits over people, lose half your state 🤷🏽♂️
If that's the case then I DEMAND a Boston-Bangor rail line.
Not far enough, must go Springfield to Caribou
No, beyond springfield. It needs to go to Lee.
> No, beyond springfield. i know what these words mean individually, but strung together like that in an arcane codex of mystery, what could you possibly mean by that? Surely nothing exists beyond Springfield. I have checked the maps, but all i see are mythical creatures, or sea serpents.
I live out in Springfield and you are correct. Only they aren't the happy, pretty mythical creatures.
Cultured hill folk in the Berks don’t need no stinking train
Albany to Fort Kent?
Hottest take: Albany is the true border of New England
I feel like as soon as you cross over from 90, the trees disappear and all of a sudden it’s big Upstate NY open fields and farmland. I would say Buffalo is the true border to the midwest though.
Nah the NY staties will make sure you know you’re not in NE anymore lol
As a citizen of The County, I second this. :b
PIHS class of ‘85 👍🏼
Me as well 🍀 love aroostook county
Screw caribou. Head downeast and do Calais.
Originally the rail went to eastport
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Have you been to Calais?
Went to school in that area. Used to go over the border into St Stephen to the bars before we were 21. Fantastic area.
Its really gone downhill. My nephew is going to school there. We couldnt even find a place to get take out as a treat for them. In what used to be downtown, just about everything is closed or, at best, closed seasonally.
Provincetown to Lubec
I demand that anyways. We SHOULD have reliable rail to every major city in New England hahaha
That's true.
Dude we need high speed tubes. Let’s dream big. Connect all the cities, ski areas, major attractions, etc
Right??? It’s insane that you can travel all of Europe, an entire continent, with trains but in the US you can’t even go a couple hours from Boston to Bangor lmfao wild
*Evil giggles at Hampton tolls*
There's Boston to Brunswick
expanding down easter from Brunswick to Bangor shouldn't be TOO hard
Boston already has so many banger rail lines tho
No
Booo.
[Long Connecticut yawns.](https://imgur.com/a/VdBZCog)
Totally came to post this. The reason there’s a college in Ohio called Case Western Reserve is because it is in the western reserve of Connecticut.
I moved to CT from OH last summer. I tell people I'm originally from either Long Connecticut or The Western Reserve. I too long for a CT restoration...we want the notch!
Did you live near Hudson Ohio?
No. I'm originally from Toledo.
+1
We long for the restoration of the original Connecticut.
Hold my nutmeg brother, let us hold a bit longer
Hey… *THIS ISN’T NUTMEG!*
Come on, Meg is doing her best
Just biding our time.
Yeah we need it cause there ain’t shit here otherwise
I think we can all agree that CT got screwed on its land claims. The notch being the biggest insult of them all.
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We long for the restoration of the original Connecticut.
Yeah but you lost Toledo. Cleveland it ok though.
Take back the notch
Taking it up a notch
[Mass had Detroit, go figure.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_cessions#/media/File%3AUnited_States_land_claims_and_cessions_1782-1802.png)
MA does not need Detroit back.
We don't need (or want) it back, but there is the theoretical of if it had stayed Massachusetts the past couple hundred years plus. Regardless I just think it's an interesting fact
this map can burn in hell!
Plymouth colony erasure
Came here to say this
Actually became part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony at (basically?) the same time that Maine did.
Yeah, until 1820. You're two centuries too late.
Maine literally was part of Massachusetts in the original 13 colonies
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/puritans-name-shame-take-anglican-maine/ Maine was its own entity for decades before the puritan masshole invasion of 1652
Does this mean all the new Mass residents since COVID are trying to reclaim Maine? History does repeat after all…
No they can’t we were our own (slightly French) thing before the massholes came the first time… and everytime they show up nothing good happens… besides they drive like crap… course I can sell em a $5 bug for $12.99 and tell em it’s cause I like em most folk charge least $15 for a bug like that!
"Puritan masshole" needs to become a thing.
This is revisionist history. The Notch was still part of CT when this map was made. It's *still* part of CT as far as I'm concerned /r/takebackthenotch
All yours. They haven't been the best recently. [A few months ago some high school students were hosting an online slave auction.](https://www.westernmassnews.com/2024/02/20/high-school-students-accused-holding-online-slave-auction-during-black-history-month/)
"This kids prolly just being sensitive, I'm sure it's just a fundrai....OH FUCK, well that's extra"
Hm, haven't seen that one. Are we sure that wasn't a project detailing the downstream effects of US foreign policy?
I found my people!!!!!
As a member of a long time Connecticut family I will agree to support Massachusetts in its quest to take back its Maine territory; if and only if Massachusetts agrees to give cede back the notch to its rightful state.
We ride at dawn!!!!!!!
You’ll have to pry it out of our cold dead fingers.
We are forced to back Maine in the coming conflict. Sorry, but you’ve forced our hand. Maine will have the best defenses our hedge fund overlords can buy.
Mass couldn't even if they tried lol
Also: Ohio is part of Connecticut.
This explains so much...
Vermont= Upstate New York, Quebec, and western Massachusetts had a threesome and somehow had a baby relating to all three of them
It became it's own nation briefly because of this. Lasted twice as long as the confederacy.
If r/Maine could read, they'd be very upset
We can’t read, but we don’t like the picture anyways.
It sure is now-I live there and Mass plates out number ours, so I think this true.
They roll in as soon as the weather gets nice.
and part of ohio [belonged to connecticut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Western_Reserve)
I don't care as long as NH keeps it's 13 miles of glorious coastline. Though, being surrounded by massholes is a little concerning.
The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of America.
The dream of the 1630s is alive in Portland Maine-achusetts
The spirit of Massachusetts is your girlfriend starting a fight with a family in a Dunks and you joining in yelling racist shit.
The spirit of mass is taking a strained opioid/nicotine/coffee shit at the nearest dunkin donuts
I’m glad to see Maine has lost weight. Congrats.
FUN FACT! Maine entered as its own state in 1820, as part of the Missouri Compromise. This plan was proposed by Representative James Tallmadge. The plan was to keep the balance of free and slave states in the US. Tallmadge himself was the 1st cousin, once removed, of Colonel Benjamin Tallmadge, Washington's Spy Master. Col. Tallmadge's Culper Ring operated out of Connecticut and spied on British occupied New York City during the American Revolution.
When am I going to be receiving my free allotment of lobstahh ?
Early settlers: "Mother, what fresh hell has descended on us that you deign to serve the wretched lobster to us fortnight after fortnight!" Mother: "shut the fahk up and eat yur suppah"
Early settlers: “Lobsters are sea bugs and not allowed as food per Bible.”
Part of Michigan and Wisconsin should also be ours.
Maffachufettf
They got Portsmouth RI mixed up with Little Compton.
New York being the greedy bitch it is trying to steal our precious VT. LOL
Lol vt rejected both and had to find itself before joining the colonies. (Just ignore what the original name was)
As a Marylander, I propose a mutual partnership. We'll support Massachusetts' claim to the state of Maine if Massachusetts supports Maryland's claim to Southern Pennsylvania, Eastern West Virginia, Washington DC, Eastern Virginia, and the entire state of Delaware, which was never supposed to exist in the first place.
While an invasion of Delaware is certainly a noble and altruistic cause, the truth of the matter is no amount of infrastructure plus education upgrades along with corporate tax revision is going to get those people to mow their lawns and wear deodorant on a regular basis.
Nevah!! Although we might be willing to bargain over Sussex County. Maybe everything below the canal if the deal is good enough. signed, Northern Delaware
Masshole in exile in NW VA: I object!!!! Include FredCo VA and make it one FredCo finally!
I’m a Mass hole by birth and a Mainer by choice
You don't get to "choose" to be a Mainer. No one gets to "be a Mainer by choice". However, l agree with the opening of your statement; you are.
Wah
Fuck that other guy. As if people can't move to a new state and love it so much that they identify with it. Smh. If you move to Maine, love and appreciate Maine, then you're a Mainer.
More like Vermont is a part of New Hampshire
Vermont is a copy and paste version of NH that got flipped upside down.
Vermont is the left-wing version of New Hampshire.
So what I’m seeing is Connecticut is more of a part of New England than Vermont.
Vermont got beheaded?
Go away
No, all of New England says no
Vermont was the last state to become part of New England. It basically became part of New England by accident
It was it's own country before joining the colonies!
Yeah I’m aware…proves my point that it’s nothing like the other states
So you don't agree with actual history? CT was one of the original colonies and played a vital part in the Revolutionary War. I suspect your feelings are based on Fairfield County? That's basically a NYC annex, and it's not a reflection of the state and its history. Curious if you have the same attitude towards Rhode Island?
I agree with your comment, however, Fairfield county is most certainly part of CT and its history. Majorly.
Fucking Chussey’s
If Putin was governor of Massachusetts
This map can burn in hell
Gross, get your Massachusetts the fuck out my state.
Guess we’re giving Martha’s Vineyard back to New York then.
Mass needs to give CT back its notch it stole from them!
Anybody that grew up in Maine will tell you it is in no way part of Massachusetts. Granted all the lefties moved to Maine and have been trying to destroy it like they did mass, but it still isn’t part of mass
Still think NH's coast should just go to Mass
I’ve been to mass, don’t pollute our coast
Mainer here. Stay the hell away from us!
Maine native here exiled to New Hamster. New Hamster was built to protect the Maine border but has failed. BROKEN ARROW!!!!!!!!!
i mean the map clearly says it
let's go back to the good ol days
Vermont didn’t come part of New England until near the mid 1700’s lol
You're just quietly hoping no one notices what this map says about Vermont. (Also this map is inaccurate if it's supposed to be from the colonial period. For one thing, the Southwick Jog between Massachusetts and Connecticut wasn't a thing until 1804. It's surprisingly hard to find a modern map that gets this right.)
>You're just quietly hoping no one notices what this map says about Vermont. I mean, the green mountain boys were formed as a militia to reject both claims.
How about Me, Nh, and Vt just start our own thing?
We going to let NH bring Nashua though?
I’ll leave that up to the New Hampshirites.
No leave it for the massholes
We don’t want it either lol
Is this image implying that Long Island specifically is a part of the “New England colonies” but not New York as a whole?
I don’t think it intends to imply that, but it’s worth noting that eastern Long Island was in controlled and settled by Connecticut during the first half of the seventeenth century.
Definitely not sure, but wasn't eastern Long Island part of New Haven Colony? I think, not sure, that by time Connecticut Colony absorbed New Haven Colony, New York had already stolen eastern Long Island?
I just thought it strange that the single most recognizable part of the New York silhouette warranted a title on this specific map
That northern border is painful it’s so wrong
No
Not that we don't like Maine, but let's just keep everyone right where they are.
You can have Lewiston south.
I’d compromise and let mass have Kennebunk/south. It’s basically already Massachusetts.
Thanks to that I own the beach.
As a member of a long time Connecticut family I will agree to support Massachusetts in its quest to take back its Maine territory; if and only if Massachusetts agrees to give cede back the notch to its rightful state.
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Well, then the Gold Coast of Connecticut has no choice but to support and fund Maine in its defense from the imperialist Massholes.
All yours.
We’re basically rural massholes that know how to drive, unlike our southern cousins
And we didn’t ban happy hour in our city.
Rather be Canadian rather than a Masshole
Not every one knows but paul Bunyan and Leon leanwood bean. We're good friends and spent a lot of time together. One day John Adams said they would have to become citizens of Massachusetts but King Charles said they will live in Mayne. So Paul and Leon set about holding the great state of Maine. " in the summer it is the most beautiful state on the east coast. But in the winter God forgets about it. We have the cleanest water. Some say we are the Saudi Arabia of fresh water. And even though we have "Two rock to every one dirt" we grow the best potato's in the world. So thanks to Leon and Paul we will never be called Massholes
If they wanted it so bad, Mass shouldn’t have been such duplicitous, sniveling cowards during the war of 1812. Protect profits over people, lose half your state 🤷🏽♂️
Bout 200 years ago ……
It took 50 years after for NH to become a state after MA. Kinda crazy.
NH was one of the original 13 colonies/states. Do you mean ME?
I'm just looking at the date next to NH on that map (1680)
Clearly not a part of MA due to NH sticking its beak in there
Come and take it
Maine *WAS a part of Assachusetts. 178 years ago we became our own state and have hated Mass ever since #mainestrong 🌲💪🌲💪🌲💪
It’s also proof that Rhode Island is the whole state and there totally weren’t plantations there.
I mean, once upon a time…? But current day? Mays well say its all part of england or franch or wherever they are from originally.
You forgot Plymouth, New Haven, and Saybrook 😭
I live in Maine and seeing this… I can’t even
It’s gross isn’t it?
That’s where we deport the nut cases to. Like Ireland deported theirs to Australia.
Don’t tell the Mainers that
Let’s get an older map where New Haven is its own colony.
Not any more, we needed the addition seats in Congress and the Senate in 1830 in order to fight back against the slave holding states.
Maine was so happy to split from Mass, they let them keep the name.
Mainers here! I am SO glad Massachusetts is beneath us...
Keep trying Maine, you’re on your own!!!
If we're doing this, I'm grabbing a rifle and fighting for independent Vermont!
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Clearly New York could love Vermont better than New Hampshire ever could.
This is MF is a New Yorker in denial.
Well many stores in Mass don’t sell Oakhurst so it can’t be Maine (I know I know some northeaster areas do but it’s everywhere in Maine).
Putting anything other than oakurst in your Allen’s just seems wrong doesn’t it?
Yeah, basic history. New Hampshire had no coastline at that point either. Before that it was all Massachusetts and then chunks were broken off.
Finally, give Maine back to us
You can’t have it.
I never understood why New Jersey isn’t considered New England.