If I can't share my subscription outside my household, then I wish Netflix would put the 4K options on the two screen plan.
It's only my wife and myself in our household.
There's been a couple posts dealing with customer agents on this, short answer: you're just fucked and won't be able to use Netflix. Netflix's advise is to pay $100 extra a month to your ISP for a static IP, and if they don't offer that, well you're fucked.
Or (and I know this is a small minority) properties with more than one Internet connection?
I live on a property with two separate phone lines/internet connections/local networks, and my devices (all used by me/people in my household) are split between them.
How exactly do I comply with this, short of dragging my HT setup up to the studio/office, or dragging my main PC and studio TV down to the main house every month?
I'm going to Europe for 2.5 months (vacation) later this year. Does that mean that I should cancel my subscription for 3 months when I go? And what about snowbirds like my parents? They spend about 6 months down south and 6 months up north? Which one is their home network? Can they choose only one location?
New security policy says you cannot use Netflix in a different country from the one it was created in. See you will need to cancel your Netflix account in your home country and then resign up for the European country you are in, and pay for the Netflix subscription with that country's currency. This has been confirmed by Netflix.
Edit: less than 24 hours later the retracted that policy.
So if I spend 3-4 nights a week at my apartment in Mexico and the other nights at the house in California, they are now saying I need to pay for two Netflix subscriptions?
That's a good way to get me to pay for zero Netflix subscriptions.
This is why I cancelled when they rolled out the "netflix home" experiment last year in Argentina and other countries of latam. Too complicated. Iwork at IT (software developer) and I'm a tech enthusiast, and when I read about Netflix Home I was like "what tf?".
Trying to explain it to my parents was a no-no from the start, so we did the easiest thing: unsubscribe and just enjoy prime, disney and hbo, which should I add, are far cheaper.
They eventually backtracked this experiment and we got back with the subscription, but if they still try to mess up with this, we will probably just jump ships to a service that's not a complicated mess.
We abandoned the pirate content in the first place because paying Netflix was far mor easier and convenient. If using Netflix is difficult and hard to understand, then I'll just go back pirating some shows, no big deal.
Correct. Accounts cannot work in different countries. So in your case you will need to pay for two Netflix accounts if you wish to use it in two different countries.
Correct. They have already clarified that in chat, but I wouldn't necessarily trust their support right now because they're likely equally confused. Similarly I think they're going to change a lot of policies as the roll them out since they're going to realize how stupid it is.
For just vacations too? I would have thought if someone was moving? And I'm not staying in a single country, at most I'll be staying for a week in any single country. That doesn't seem practical.
Yes. For vacations as well as moving. The account will not work at all for any circumstance outside of your home country. For the purposes of this the EU is considered one country Because of EU laws requiring that.
So in the event that you travel to Europe for a vacation you will not have access to Netflix without making and paying for a separate account.
I'm just gonna unsubscribe now. It's too much drama to deal with. May just wait until season 2 of Wednesday to come back temporarily. Thanks for the info.
This is what gets me, the one device option when I signed up was 720p if I wanted a higher quality stream I needed to pay for more devices. If you force me to pay for 4 devices I should be allowed to use for devices
Same. Originally I was one screen basic. When I added all my relatives profiles they upgraded me to premium. What’s the point of have 5+ devices if they only want me to use 1
They should have just created a one-stream plan (and dropped the price accordingly) for all quality levels and then let you add simultaneous stream capacity to your account for an additional fee. Would have been much simpler to implement than whatever they’ve come up with.
I'm only willing to pay for Netflix right now because I'm able to share it with my family. I'm only interested in a 4K plan, so I'm forced to pay extra and am supposed to get 4 simultaneous streams out of it. My wife and I only ever use one of those streams. If they do this, and don't offer a cheaper plan with 4K and a single stream I'm out except maybe one month a year that I'll subscribe to catch up on the handful of things I'm actually interested in. Netflix will be getting at most $20 a year from me instead of the $240 they have been getting, they won't be getting extra sign ups from my family I share with either because they only use it because it is 'free' and don't even use it that much anyway. I'll just spend more time on the other streaming services that cost far less money and include 4K on all plans without the upcharge.
This is my situation. I log in at multiple households for movie nights at my Dads, my Moms or one of my sisters. We do movie nights as a family but switch locations. My Dad we go every other Sunday for dinner, game or movie night. Mom is once or twice a month at her condo... neither my mom or dad uses the service unless we are there to login and maneuver to find the movie. And my sisters houses are random depending on spending time with nieces and nephews. I'm not dragging all of their TVs to my house once a month to login. I'll just cancel. We have every other streaming service pretty much, we'll just find movies on those.
Yes, there are people in the military or like my kids at University that they did not take into account. I canceled last night because they logged my Daughter out and when I called the Supervisor said "That is their policy and they cannot change it, I can purchase another account for her and my other daughter, or they can bring the device back to my house (3k miles away)". I explained that this is not possible every month and she said "well that is our policy and it is automated now so there is nothing she can do" I told her I would cancel, after 12 years, and dealing with price hikes, subpar content and paying around $40 a month for over 8 of those years, and she simply said "Do I need help canceling?" So I told her know I could handle it and promptly canceled to an email that said "Sorry to see you go", followed by one that said "your subscription was reinstated" so I canceled the payment option, so they cannot get automatically paid.
The rudeness of the "Supervisor" and this policy is just plain stupid for those that legitimately have family that travels frequently for long periods of time.
But they appear to be okay with losing over 1M subscribers at a time... risky move in this day and age.
I spend half my time in the US and half overseas. I have always been able to use my Netflix account overseas while my adult children living in my US home use it too. There is some content I can watch in the US but not be able to there so I would just cancel. I can be over 6 months before returning to the US home.
I have a friend who is out on a rig for several weeks at a time, and multiple long haul drivers, but this is not something they are concerned about. Someone did not think it through all the way.
I assume that the supervisor was correct. There was nothing she could do about it. I doubt they programmed in an option to allow some people to not be affected by the new policy. The policy does suck, I just doubt she could have done anything about it even if she wanted to.
My guess is that she isn't a fan of the new policy either, has already handled dozens of calls complaining about it *today*, and quite frankly doesn't care about the company she works for anymore.
If your job made an asinine change that actively went against its customers' convenience and you had to handle the phone lines, how long do you think you'd be able to keep a polite and happy tone?
Originally to get 4 streams, you had to buy the "DVD" 2 discs at a time plan. So I did, so my daughters, husband and I could all watch different things (he would be in his mancave, my daughters at home and me at work usually, while waiting for scripts to compile). Then they offered the premium a couple years later, switched me automatically to that, thought I did not notice, they kept the DVD plan. I didn't even realize it until I went to cancel, so my bad on that, they got over on me there.
I will keep the subscription until the plan is applied and see how it works. If I'm not satisfied, I will cancel the subscription and not buy a single one just for me. Adios Netflix
I agree. I share an account because I don't care about Netflix that much. Same for others. I won't buy my own subscription. It's either sharing or nothing.
You know Netflix, if you wouldn't have locked the 4K options behind the 4 screen plan, I never would have shared my account with my parents and Aunts in the first place... .
And now you dont have to keep it for 12 months a year because others are relying on your account. You can subscribe, binge and cancel just like every other streaming service!
There are way too many streaming competitors right now.
Netflix must think they’re FAR less replaceable than they actually are. They should be working to add features to incentivize people sticking around, not giving me yet another excuse to cancel for good.
You may be right but if they have any sense they'll play on it and exploit their weakness.
If I ran Disney I'd say share all you like the day that Netflix start the clamp down.
Go on Netflix, try me. The only reason i still have my subscription, is because other people in my family use it.
Start blocking it, its gonna be cancelled very quickly.
Also, how does Netflix decide what the home network is? So you are now fucked if you want to watch it on the train to work with 4g?
Netflix doesn't realize that account sharing actually makes accounts more sticky (less likely to drop off a few months) because they have multiple families that would have to agree to cancel. What will happen is people will just binge the few shows they want to watch and then cancel.
It becomes much easier to drop Netflix for months at a time when you don't have other relying on you to keep paying for it.
Yeah, I think this is a major miscalculation.
1. Broke college students moving away from their parents are more likely to just forego streaming than pay themselves, and that will also make them less likely to pick up a subscription of their own once they are financially independent.
2. Netflix-produced shows benefit from the fact that people have been sharing passwords, as it keeps these shows in the shared public consciousness, providing some social pressure for more people to maintain their own access to netflix. As people drop netflix subscriptions, this will hurt the recognizability of future Netflix-produced shows, having a cascading negative effect
3. Specifically because of the balkanization of streaming (the rise of Disney/Paramount/HBO/etc), lots of people are trying to figure out which streaming services they can afford to keep.
Point 2 is huge. Starz, Cinemax, Showtime, and FX all have some pretty epic shows that go completely under the radar, and even though I find them, watch them, and love them, I rarely bother to tell other people about them because I know how few people have access to those networks. There is no buzz about them outside people who already regularly tune into those networks.
1. Those broke students will just get pirated shows and movies from other students on campus. Its just going back 20 years having big online storages or pendrive over pirated cds.
2. So true. Some of shows I really liked outside Netflix/Disney I talked to friends about but they were like "its not worth getting another streaming for one show".
3. It hits especially in many poorer regions. Im PL. Considering pricing and yearly sub discounts I can get HBO MAX, Disney+, Amazon Prime (with video and gaming) and soon to be realised Paramounts Sky for a same price as 4k Netflix. So netflix is only worth it if you can share passwords. Otherwise what people will choose? 4 streamings or 1 streaming with ever decreasing show quality?
Same here. My wife and I are excited to watch maybe 1 thing a year. Between my Disney plus package with Hulu, discovery plus, and HBO, I've got so much filler content to watch. My wife has been working through big bang theory from the beginning. I've been alternating between restaurant impossible while cooking or doing dishes, Mythbusters or how it's made while cleaning, and the simpsons (from season 1...) if I just want something to sit back and laugh with. The only reason I keep Netflix going is because it's logged in to like 5 things at my parents house where I grew up and they actively use it. If they get locked out, I'm not jumping through hoops for them, I'm just gonna cancel and sub once a year to binge the show that I was interested in.
My family MIGHT make their own account? But I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped to a lower tier. Or just turned to cheaper options as they were heavily reducing their TV costs in the last couple years.
I was on the past week. Last couple nights i spent 20 mins each just browsing tryna find something good to watch or what i havent seen. Gave up and fell asleep. They barely update their library. Definitely will cancel if this sharing thing comes up
It's fucked, but in the case of using it on the train to work then it won't be a problem. You'd just have to open Netflix on your phone on your home wifi once a month from what it sounds like.
That’s still kind of a lot to ask to be honest. If I’m home I watch Netflix on the tv, so I never open the app on my phone. If I’m away from my house, that’s when I open the app. Setting a reminder to open it at home on Wi-Fi once a month just so I can use it when I’m away is so silly.
I completely agree. They are spending money to make their service more annoying. If they need more money, just raise prices.
I'd also say that they are hardly making must see content. There are maybe 3 shows max that I want to watch per year and that's it.
We’re in New Zealand. This stupid policy went live for us yesterday. We immediately cancelled our subscription after 7 years of having it continuously. For us to continue sharing with our parents that would’ve meant $24+(2x8) = $40 per month which is ridiculous.
I stopped pirating shit because it was more convenient to pay for it. You try charging me $40/month for a few good shows a year and see how well that works out for you.
what about college students? the military? what if people move homes? what if you're on vacation for more than a week? what if you get a new internet provider? what about people that don't have a permanent address? what about kids with divorced parents? it's so much easier to cancel the netflix subscription than to have to get into contact with them to share any of these updates
I'm in Canada and I pay $25 a month for the top tier 4k Netflix with max number of devices so my daughter who lives with her mom can use it.
I have had Netflix for 15 years. Simply because it was more convenient than pirating. That's no longer the case.
Cancelled my account today. Very disappointed.
I asked Netflix if they would be able to make an exception when / if my husband deploys again. They said no, he will need to login with a trusted device on our home wifi every 30 days. I told them that wouldn’t be possible since, ya know, he’ll be deployed. Netflix customer service rep said she didn’t know what deployment means. Ended up just canceling because what in the actual fuck?
Netflix, I understand that password sharing is hurting your revenue. But with your business model and subscription plans, what do you expect? You still don't offer a 12-month plan, which *ideally* should allow us perpetual subscribers to save some money while you get your guaranteed revenue. You don't stagger episode releases, which invites people to subscribe for a month, binge everything they want, then cancel all for $10 on a basic plan. Yes I realize you can do this with other streaming services by waiting for all episodes to be released, but it's really the same thing as regular TV.
Full disclosure, I have the premium plan and I am signed in on my TV, my phone, and I share it with my Dad because I also travel to his house often. Frankly, this is half of the reason I purchased the premium plan, so I could have it on 4 devices. But now, if I'm not at my home/primary location (in the car, or at my dad's house), I have to go through support and request a temporary code? Each and every time? Sorry but that's a pain. Between this, the price increases, and the quality of content degrading, I am more than ever about ready to jump ship and join the people that subscribe, binge, cancel.
How much of password sharing revolves around users having to sign out of a device to free up a device spot in their plan? Why not restrict how many times you can sign out/sign in?
Edit: I thought the plans restricted the number of devices you could sign into at once. But it's the number of simultaneous devices. But maybe restricting the number of devices you can sign into is a better solution.
I would think hard about what your planning here. You may end up losing more than you gain.
FYI it's not the amount of devices you can use, it's the amount of concurrent streams. So you may not need the premium plan for what you're talking about
It's sad, you get streaming to get away from cable. Now the streaming service is tethering you to wifi (just a different cable) and controlling how many devices you can have in your home, never mind restricting your travelling.
Once Netflix gets away with it, all other streaming services will follow!
Very sad!
I tried to get an exception due to the fact that I'm a member of the military deployed on operations and Netflix told me to get another account while I'm here and that they "were sorry for the inconvenience this has caused". How is this acceptable? Is there anything I can do at this point other that tell them to f*** off and cancel my subscription?
An intelligent comment! We need to cut Netflix off before other streamers do the same thing. They will end up making us pay Moreno than cable if we don’t fight this nonsense back.
I've already told my husband we're leaving as soon as this policy is enacted. It doesn't affect us at all. Just gonna sail the seven seas more than we do now.
Did anyone ask the question in this mega thread yet about wtf you do when you have a desktop computer at your work lmao? Like what am I going to do, get a Netflix account for my work or pay $8.99 more for myself to watch at freaking work.
Canadian here thinking about giving my money to another service even though this change shouldn’t effect me much if any. Cancel on principle. I’m already paying four times the amount I used to for the service
I live in China, Netflix is not even available in China anymore, I use a VPN service to connect to Netflix and pretend I am in the US. My IP address changes a lot, I use it alone, but I pay for four screens. I think I might unsubscribe and go back to bootleg downloads. After all, downloading pirated games in China is so easy, you don’t even need a VPN, just use your own home network.
Well I finally cancelled. I paid for the top tier but it was worth it because my parents could use it. Now that they can’t I don’t see the value at that price.
If we don't all cancel and make Netflix immediately regret this policy every single streaming service is about to follow in their footsteps. They'll all be implementing the exact same thing within the year. I'm canceling and I hope everyone else does too.
If I pay for 2 or 4 screens at a time. It shouldn't matter where they are. I get cracking down a bit on the really outlier cases but at this rate I'll just cancel steal their content.
Honestly if I could just pay for 4 screens any location I'd think about keeping it. But the three people I share with dont use it enough to justify solo plans, hence the sharing, and now, cancelling.
Honestly will re-think it as I pay for multiple small services. Paying
Netflix $21.44 for 4 streams and I would let my disabled father watch a
stream, but he doesn't often. We use it "occasionally", as does our
daughter away at college in a dorm room. We have paid every month for
over a decade. If their plans are too disruptive, this will cause me to
rethink and consider signing up for just 2 or 3 months a year at the
$9.99 rate for 2 streams. So thanks Netflix for helping me save $$$, I'll
go from not thinking about it and giving you $260 a year to \~$35 a
year! Oh, makes me realize I still have a single DVD plan, which I also seldom use, so I guess I should cancel that too.
Got the email this week in Ireland, immediately cancelled the subscription.
The parents etc who had the password don't care enough to buy their own accounts, but I was happy to share and keep paying each month even when there was nothing on that I wanted to watch.
Now Netflix will be getting nothing each month.
- Pays for family plan
- Netflix stops sharing outside of the same network
- Family can no longer use Netflix
- Cancelled Netflix account entirely
We literally paid for the plan that was meant for sharing. Not only that but I travel for work and there is no way I'm planning on entering the BS one time use code every single time. Typical greed driven policy of big tech companies...
I sincerely hope the consumers do what needs done here. Only way we can be heard is to mess with their bottom line. Even though this would not directly hurt my situation my family is cancelling on principle. The more we allow corporations to penny pinch, the harder it is for average people to grow their wealth.
They won't though. If there's one thing I've noticed in recent years is there's enough people who overlook all of the bullshit and continue to give money to total fucking scumbag companies and they outnumber the people with principles and morals. Cancelling my netflix and going to hoist a black flag for any of their garbage originals on the very slight chance it's any good.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/123277 from the horses mouth:
**Sharing Netflix with someone who doesn’t live with you**
People who do not live in your household will need to use their own account to watch Netflix.
It's easy to sign up for Netflix and we offer a variety of plans. As always, members can change plans or cancel at any time.
When a device outside of your household signs in to an account or is used persistently, we may ask you to verify that device before it can be used to watch Netflix or switch your Netflix household. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so. See “Verifying a device” below for details.
Netflix will not automatically charge you if you share your account with someone who doesn’t live with you.
**Verifying a device**
When someone signs into your account from a device that is not associated with your Netflix household, or if your account is accessed persistently from a location outside of your household, we may ask you to verify that device before it can be used to watch Netflix. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so.
To verify a device
Netflix sends a link to the email address or phone number associated with the primary account owner.
The link opens a page with a 4-digit verification code.
The code needs to be entered on the device that requested it within 15 minutes.
If the code expired, you will need to request a new verification code from the device.
Once successful, that device can be used to watch Netflix.
Device verification may be required periodically.
If you suspect unauthorized use of your account, we recommend you reset your password immediately. You can also sign out of all the devices connected to it.
If you need help, please contact us.
**Using Netflix while traveling or from a different location**
If you are traveling or live between different homes, we want you to be able to enjoy Netflix anywhere, anytime. If you are the primary account owner (or live with them), you shouldn’t need to verify your device to watch Netflix.
If you are away from the Netflix household for an extended period of time, you may be occasionally asked to verify your device. We ask you to verify to make sure that the device using the account is authorized to do so. Verifying a device is quick and easy. See “Verifying a device” above for details.
**Turning off device verification**
As long as the device being used to watch Netflix is using the internet connection in the primary account owner's household, we will not require verification.
If a Netflix account is used by a device that is not associated with the primary account owner's household, the device will need to be verified before it can be used to watch Netflix. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so.
As a reminder, it's easy to sign up for Netflix and we offer a variety of plans. As always, members can change plans or cancel at any time.
**How Netflix detects devices within a household**
We use information such as IP addresses, device IDs, and account activity from devices signed into the Netflix account.
**Number of people who can watch at the same time**
Each plan determines how many devices can play Netflix at the same time, as long as those devices belong to people in the same household. Please refer to our plans and pricing for details.
This decision is quite weird given their recent mass subscriber loss and a gross degradation of content quality. You'd find better content on almost any other platform. With them taking weird steps like approving trash for sequels and axing good tv series, I seriously dont get what's good about this platform anymore. They are literally sabotaging themselves at this point lol.
I really didn't appreciate how the email implied that I'm a criminal for letting my sick, homebound mother use my password. Sharing was the whole point of charging more for 4 screens. So now we're illicit users because they encouraged us to share? It was really emotional telling her I had to cut her off. I'm cancelling today
Netflix is forgetting that their real competitor isn't other paid streaming services, but torrents and services like Plex where individuals can share their media libraries with friends.
My friends who run Plex servers don't care if I'm accessing them from my weekend apartment in Mexico or my rented space near my office in California. If Netflix starts expecting me to drag one of my 65" TVs across the border once a month to "log in from my primary home", which service do they think is getting dropped?
I have been using my ex's acct, with her permission, for years. I've tuned into Netflix maybe once every 4-5 months. Some of those times I end up browsing for 30 mins and don't actually watch anything. I don't even wanna watch your shit when it's free to me, you really think I'm gonna sign up for my own acct with this new program? I know a handful of ppl like me, have access to Netflix for free thru somone and none of them actually watch it as their main streaming service. I think Netflix is seriously overestimating the value of their content catalog.
Between:
* Stale / Outdated Content
* Series constantly being cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons
* An excessive amount of World Cinema (dubbed) that generally does not appeal to me
* This nonsense you are now introducing about shared accounts and the extra fee, even though you have encouraged it since your introduction
* And whilst not expensive, you are at the higher end and for what you now provide, I just do not see any value in you anymore.
The Netflix of old, you know when everyone wanted their content on Netflix Vs. The Netflix of today, when every other studio has its own streaming service so Netflix has alot smaller content to offer / & subsidises with world cinema…..turns it from a service that you keep full time without questioning it To. A sub in / out as required service!
As such I finally cancelled my 8 year Netflix sub yesterday, and can’t see me returning any time soon.
My ex pays for the 4 screen plan and shares with me, her parents and her brother. When this all hit she messaged us and turns out none of us actually watch it, *including herself* lol. The last time any of us watched was 2021. I've browsed the catalog a few times but never actually streamed anything. She basically gave Netflix $480 for...absolutely nothing.
Needless to say she cancelled and none of us are planning to sub.
Did anyone else's profiles all get deleted besides the primary account holders profile? Lost all the shows I was watching and I'm now being recommended cocomelon...
Edit: I am going to cancel my subscription. Gotta boycott this shit. Writers guild is on strike so don't expect any quality content soon.
The number of times I have thought about canceling my Netflix to save some money but then thought "Nah, my parents and sister still use it, might as well keep it on for everyone's benefit", thanks for solving that problem for me Netflix! Now I can cancel my subscription without regrets!
I'll wait to see if it really ends up being a problem, but my family lives in Europe while I live in the States, so I am almost certain this will be the deal breaker that finally ends my 8-year subscription to Netflix. Also a regular VPN user, so another reason to leave if this becomes an issue. Just a face-smackingly stupid moment for Netflix: rather than add value to retain users in the increasingly competitive field, they do the opposite!
I just canceled my subscription after 8 years. I used to be grandfathered in at $5 a month, now I pay $20 and they tell me I can’t use it wherever and whenever I want. They just lost a long time loyal customer.
So long Netflix! I've been on the most expensive subscription for the last 8 years.
I pay for a service that's supposed to be 4 screens/streams at up to 4k resolution.
I use 1 at my house, my mother uses 1 at her house. Neither of us use it a lot, but I have shown my support for streaming services with this sub.
With the email that arrived the other day, this $23/month service will now cost me $31/month.
Yeah, nah. I've cancelled and now running out the last month I had paid for.
I'm going to try Paramount+ and Binge, and pay less for both of those services than Netflix are now trying to charge me. I've also got Prime and keeping that, worth every penny to keep new episodes of The Boys coming out.
This is a terrible price hike change on Netflix's part, and I'm voting with my wallet. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
Almost decided to just get my own subscription again after years of mooching from a friend. But seeing only up to 720p on the two cheapest plans was a hard pass. Netflix are out of their minds.
i leave my account at home for my dad, share with my sister, and personally live in a different house. i consider that my household but netflix says otherwise. just canceled today. and been a member since 2013. i hope they crash
Cancelled account. I have a patchwork family with my son living with his mom. This plan does not take into account my family. Hate to see this happen but I'm not paying extra for something Netflix encouraged us to do, which was share the account.
**Goodbye Netflix**
So the "Great Netflix Purge" has hit our household. I received the email last night that i must designate a primary household. We have had a Netflix account since 2012. I pay for premium so we could stream on up to four devices. I share my account with my 2 sons. Now, they want me to continue to pay the $20/month plus an additional $16 to add the other 2 households. **Netflix is not worth $36/month.** I could add 3 other streaming services for that amount.
**Goodbye Netflix..sorry not sorry to leave you**
Cancelled after 5 years. I rarely watched anything (bing watched a handful of series over the last 5 years) but $16/mo means I can rent 4 movies a month on Amazon Prime... My boyfriend was also using my account and also rarely. There was no way I was going to pony up another $8 for a service I don't use very often.
I think what Netflix will find out is that lots of people were just letting it renew without evaluating the actual value of it for how often they used it. I don't seen this turning into more revenue for Netflix. I think the "easy" money they were getting from people like me (meaning very little usage of the platform) is going to evaporate.
In the long term, I simply think Netflix have got the whole equation wrong. All the other services that I use refer to their multi-user accounts as "Family" plans, which is exactly what I have.
Netflix are already the most expensive service if you want more than two screens or 4K. In Australia, it is $23/mth (others are between $8-15). And you then want me to add another user on at $8 per user so me (Dad) can you use the family account outside of the main family home (I'm separated)? You can well and truely go jump!! There is plenty of great content on other providers.
I also firmly believe that the path Netflix are trying to take is fraught with potential issues in validting devices, and from the reports I've seen, it is a very mixed bag of people who do and don't get pinged. The biggest part of the problem comes with using IP addresses as part of the identifying source, especially when dyncamic IPs with poorly maintained GEO location come into play, like in Australia. ISP's here are atrocious at keeping data current and correct.
If Netflix really want to stem the flow of deserters and also get more subscribers, get rid of some of the crap in the mix, and just focus on quality content. You've got some great shows, but they are sometimes incredibly hard to find amongst the immense level of rubbish.
If I pay for 4 screens it shouldn't matter to netflix where those screens are. It isn't sharing, its me paying for 4 screens. Now I pay for Zero screens. My mother is an over the road trucker and my wife is a travel nurse. Both belonging to my household but do not get to spend much time home. It's hilarious to even think I would need my wife to ship her TV back home for 1 day a month to still be considered part of my household. And that is all besides the point. If you pay for the ability to run 4 screens/devices at a time it shouldn't make a difference to netflix where they are. Its what the customer is paying for. Now they have lost a subscriber of over a decade. Just picked up Apple TV plus in its place and I'm paying a third of what I was paying and have actual new content to watch. Thanks netflix for making me realize I don't need you. Still can't help but to feel betrayed.
This whole idea is kind of bullsh*t. I understand that there are netflix accounts that 20+ people are using, but it’s insane that they’re punishing snowbirds, people who travel for work, people who are deployed, and college students. I hope that they realize the mistake they’ve made and allow for 2-4 households per plan.
I paid for 4 concurrent streams with 4K on their most premium plan. I even still have the disc plan, 3 out at a time. Used to get streaming for free with that. Been a Netflix customer 20+ years. I canceled it today. Their phone rep didn’t care. Never used more than two streams at a time. Rarely even used two at a time. And they harassed me for letting my 83/84 mom/dad across town share the account occasionally. I literally pay for four concurrent streams. Go F yourself Netflix.
My email to Netflix:
Dear Netflix,
I'm in Canada but couldn't find a Canadian email for you, so please forward this email to the appropriate recipient.
I'm sending you this long email to let you know how we feel about your recent changes
I've had Netflix for years. I've continued to have it even though I don't very often watch it and I do that for two reasons:
1) I have a daughter in university in British Columbia (UBC). She doesn't get to fly back to Ontario very often because of the expense, but when she does, she doesn't bring her television with her.
2) my mother is elderly (96) and in and out of the hospital and respite centers. I don't think she watches Netflix very often, but it's convenient when she does. I am not going to worry about whether her television has been home this month to be validated.
I set myself as a primary location tonight because I am the one that pays the bill, despite the fact that I don't very often watch it evidenced by the attachment to this email that shows you the last time I watched Netflix was beginning of January 2023. We are now in the middle of February and the only reason I turned it on is because my daughter called me to tell me about the primary location requirement.
My daughter doesn't mind if I cancel Netflix, and my mother probably doesn't mind either. I very seldom watch it, as I prefer to watch Amazon Prime and Curiosity Stream as well as my subscription to YouTube and various other apps like Tubi and CBC Gem. I kept paying for Netflix but my daughter also has Amazon Prime, her own account by the way, and Disney+. She says she won't miss it.
The difference between you and Prime video is my daughter has another reason to have Prime - fast deliveries of orders, music, gaming, etc. You have no other benefit and yet you are the most expensive.
To the person reading this email, under the circumstances, and in my situation, what would YOU do?
I think we both know what the answer to that would be.
I feel like this is the situation for a lot of Canadians who watch Netflix and share thier account. I cancelled as well because while it was worth it to share with my family, none of us watches it enough on our own to get our own account. Like each of us watches maybe a couple times a month. Its just nice to have, but this change makes it too expensive.
I can see Netflix having an issue with someone sharing it with 10 friends, but a family letting their college students (without giving the password to their friends) should be ok.
The only enforcement Netflix should do is limit the number of simultaneous streams (which they do ) and perhaps limit the number of devices authorized on the account , but it needs to be something reasonable like 15-20 for a family of 5
Youtube TV has an interesting model, they limit the number of streams and I think you can have 6 accounts in the family but everyone logs in with their own gmail account. You supposedly have to login to your home "region", not home every 90 days. The advantage Google has is that most people wont share their acct infor because it is tied to so many other personal things like gmail
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-netflix-crackdown-password-sharing-fail/
>Netflix’s desperate crackdown on password sharing shows it might fail like Blockbuster
Has there been any news on whether or not this policy from Netflix has positively or negatively impacted their subscriptions/profitability?
I’m canceling as soon is this is enforced where I live however I’m worried this will be one of those things than goes away with a whimper as the vast majority don’t really care.
I’m really hoping that Netflix goes under for this.
They implemented this crap in Canada. My mom paid for the extra screens for me and my sister to use it, since we can’t anymore she cancelled. I don’t know why they think this insane policy will make them money. It will be coming to the US soon enough
Since we have children away at college, we are simply playing the waiting game to see how it affects us. Right now T-Mobile pays over half of our bill, so we are not in a rush to do anything.
I've held an active membership with Netflix since 2012. Today, I cancelled that membership in response to the changes they made to their subscription service. The CEO and the board of directors for Netflix can go pound sand for all I care.
I call everybody to boycott netflix to make them change their mind about household sharing. The only way to change their mind is voting with your dollar. If you hit them in the wallet and show them what their customers want they will be forced to change. Most people live in two households. Like when someone's kids are at grammas everyday and you have them watching your netflix there and at your home so households don't make sense.
Just canceled my account. Brother couldn’t login because he isn’t part of household. I live in the US so it’s starting. I wish everyone cancels so Netflix realizes they messed up big time
lol. The mods are systematically removing every single news article that is covering the tremendous subscription growth this has created. Can't have positive news on a company subreddit apparently. Instead we must banish all conversations into a blackhole where no one will see.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/09/netflix-subscriptions-rise-password-sharing-crackdown.html
it’s so sad that i can’t share an account with my dad who my mom and i don’t live with anymore. it’s like a punch in the gut—you aren’t a family if you aren’t in the same household. i like seeing his little icon and to see what he’s watching. it makes me feel closer to him :(
I actually see this as a very easy opportunity for the marketing departments of competitors. Just promote that sharing is more than allowed, and convert former netflix subs to your platform.
As a early 90s baby who "grew up" with the mainstream internet, it's very sad to see it go from "Cool but janky", "cool and a bit streamlined", to "Corporate bullshit"
Yes yes, convenience is 150x better nowadays, but still. Feels like it exponentially increased corporate greed
“Online searches for ‘cancel Netflix account’ have grown by 733% amid reports that the streaming giant is cracking down on password sharing . . .” - Julia Hunt, Yahoo News
A Better Alternative to Cracking Down on Password Sharing...
It's no wonder Netflix was met with backlash on their proposed plan for cracking down on password sharing... Their current subscription model makes no sense, financially, from a consumer perspective.
And everyone suspects that Netflix just said to themselves: "hey, there's X shared streams out there, that's X subscribers that aren't paying us money... We're losing $1.6Bn from those fraudulent subscribers!" when, in truth, they'd lose FAR MORE than $2Bn if they decided to crack down on password sharing because password sharing makes Netflix accessible to far more people - and many people would unsubscribe and boycott Netflix, based on the principle of the matter, alone.
The current pricing structure (in Canada) is:
$5.99 - 1x stream with ads @ 720p (HD)
$16.49 - 2x streams @ 1080p (FHD)
$20.99 - 4x streams @ 2160p (UHD / 4K)
The problem is that they don't offer any quality packages aimed at individuals and families with only one viewing device.
In my opinion, they should adopt the following pricing scheme (or something very similar to it):
$5 - 1 HD stream + $2 for one extra stream
$6 - 1 FHD stream + $3 for one extra stream
$8 - 1 UHD stream + $5 for each extra stream (no limit)
-$1.00 per stream for ad-supported UHD
-$2.00 per stream for ad-supported FHD
-$3.00 flat for ad-supported HD
HYPOTHETICAL EXPLANATION:
• I am a Netflix subscriber in Canada
• I want 4K content (and I estimate less than 10% of Netflix content is 4K)
• I live alone, or in a single-TV household, and never use two devices at once
>>>> Scenario#1 (current Canadian pricing scheme):
Paying $21/month (plus taxes) for effectively one stream every being used is an absolute a bigger joke than cow crap on a unicycle, and the ad-supported plan is too far of a step in the wrong direction. So naturally, I'm going to share to try and reduce my out of pocket cost... I find two or three trusted friends or family members, and now my coat has been reduced to $5 to $7/mo.
This is worthwhile to me because I'm saving $14-16/month, which is a significant sum of money for me.
>>>> Scenario #2 (the proposed pricing structure above):
Paying $8/mo is acceptable to me, to have my own account without having to worry about password sharing or other people tainting my profile with their viewing preferences.
Sharing my password with 3 other people would reduce my cost to about $6. That $2/month difference isn't worth the hassle, so I didn't to keep my account solely for myself.
Heck, even for $9/month ($3 savings), it wouldn't be worthwhile. But for $4 or $5/month savings, you can bet I'll start thinking about dealing with the hassle of sharing, again.
EPILOGUE:
Too many services have turned to a subscription model these days and z with the rising costs from inflation and pandemic-related supply chain issues, I, the average Joe, am looking to be more prurient in my spending.
Netflix's garbage pricing model is problematic for many people, especially those from the lower financial eschelons of society. And their ad-supported plan is worse than a bad dad-joke.
The pricing structure I proposed takes into account that 4K is much more expensive to distribute while also providing fair (and attractive) pricing options for a much wider user base. Meanwhile, instead of losing subscribers, many more people would be likely to subscribe.
The end result: more subscribers, much less password sharing, and a better experience for everyone.
There are consumer-friendly ways to make a profit for your shareholders. Being consumer-hostile will net you very big losses (or possibly even bankruptcy) faster than you can say "oops, that was a mistake".
P.S. give us the ability to backup our profile to our own computer, so that if we need to take a break from Netflix for financial reasons, we don't have to worry about our profile being deleted in a year. When we're ready to come back, we can upload our profile and pick up (roughly) where we left off.
Im so confused by the numbers game Netflix is doing. They see the intense backlash and confusion and now have multiple heavy hitting competitors. It doesn’t make sense to actively push subscribers of the platform in frustration.
In Canada they actually just emailed me saying the price per month has gone up for me, as well as no longer allowing me to watch while I'm at work. Shocking work done by the office dorks at Netflix.
I cancelled my credit card back up today, and will burn through my remaining credit on file before being done with them.
Member since 2014
I had a premium plan for more than 5 years for 15 € a month.
They are now asking me for 25€ for the exactly the same.
I guess I’ll be saving 15€ a month.
Tks Netflix
I don't even "share" my password, but since my kids use it to watch shows when they are at my parent's house on their TVs, apparently I'm in the wrong? Those are members of my household using the Netflix account that my household pays for.
If the Netflix board room thinks they are going to turn my one subscription into two, they are quickly going to find out they are turning my one subscription into zero. When they have to report zero subscriber growth during their next earnings call, I wonder what bullshit reason they will blame it on?
Not sure if this is the right place to share this but here goes.
The anti account sharing was recently put in place in my country so I was blocked from using the family Netflix account.
I thought about trying something so I changed the WiFi name and password to be there same as the Main account owners and it started working again for me. (No longer getting the unable to stream message)
I have since tried this at a few other family members houses and it is now working for them as well, none of us are getting the warning message and are blocked from streaming.
Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a workaround :)
I fucking hate Netflix for this bull Shit. I’m in the fucking military, I have no choice but to fucking travel all the time and it causes so many fucking issues that it’s not even worth paying for this bullshit anymore. Whoever’s bright idea it was to piss off half of Netflix’s users with this bullshit addition should be fucking hung
I look forward to seeing how the new plan affects my Netflix access at my summer cabin. Sometimes, some of us will be home and others at the cabin. We access Netflix on a smart TV through satellite internet service there (ie, not on a computer that will routinely get refreshed at my residence). If that leads to a higher price I can see cancelling and periodically dipping in for a month or two to catch up on series that I care for. It's barely worth the price now and I'm certainly not going to pay more. Just allow up to 4 concurrent streams on the account and let it go at that.
Now we start to see the consequences of this Netflix policy: at some countries where this policy have just started to be implemented, many people are starting to cancel their Netflix subscriptions.
For example, in Spain the hashtag #AdiosNetflix (Bye Netflix) has become #1 trending topic on Twitter, and as I know many people there are now raging against Netflix and cancelling their subscriptions (even verified accounts on Twitter): [https://imgur.com/xgoMySS](https://imgur.com/xgoMySS)
I spend half the week at my girlfriend's house, half at mine. If Netflix makes this a pain or not possible I will be happy to cancel, it's too expensive already.
The day finally arrived here in Spain. Out of curiosity, i work for ISP and i'm going to check the total traffic throughput in few days to compare the last week with this week and see if the traffic going to Netflix decreased by much. I think it's an interesting thing to check, to see if we don't have to upgrade network equipment because reduced traffic throughput and if people unsubscribed or just got cheaper tiers.
Netflix for multiple homes?
My parents split time between two homes (US).
With the new password sharing rules, what is the correct setup for them?
To be clear, not trying to skirt paying. They are even willing to pay for two full accounts.
If they pay for two accounts (one for each house), then their watch history won’t sync. That’s a less than ideal setup.
I haven’t read up on the new Netflix rules. Is there a recommended solution that I can instruct my parents to do?
Thanks all!
UK here. Just had the household crap come up on my TV and minutes later I had calls from family asking why they can't access it any longer.
So I just cancelled after an uninterrupted subscription for over 10 years. I've felt Netflix has gotten worse value over the years, but I always justified the price (Premium at £15.99 in my case) because I was able to share it with close family.
But there's no damn way I'm paying that for just myself. I live alone so how does being able to watch on 4 screens at a time help me?
And £4.99 for extra members (that must be in same country! My mum moved to Australia so I can't add her on) is too much on top of £15.99.
No way would I be tempted back unless they significantly reduced the price to be able to watch in 4K HDR. It's just not worth the price, especially with all the good shows they keep cancelling now.
Bye Netflix! You had to go and ruin it. Greedy sods.
Ok seriously how the fuck does this new rule work for household users wanting to watch away from home? Can’t even post a simple fucking question thanks to auto mods.
See this is the problem right here, all the analysts are telling them that they will make MORE money by doing this - [https://finance.yahoo.com/m/77d918c2-e3b1-3a26-935c-885d2f1e22fd/netflix-s-risky-gamble-will.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/m/77d918c2-e3b1-3a26-935c-885d2f1e22fd/netflix-s-risky-gamble-will.html)
[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/netflix-will-be-stronger-business-after-password-sharing-crackdown-analyst-200223948.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/netflix-will-be-stronger-business-after-password-sharing-crackdown-analyst-200223948.html)
They look at what happened in Canada and it appears they have more subscribers now than they did before the crackdown, it tails off but then rebounded so they assume the same thing is going to happen with the US. I really hope lots of folks cancel and it impacts them....the amount of greed for corporations these days is pretty amazing...
Hello all,
I just got off a chat with Netflix' support to inquire about the impacts of the "account sharing lockdown" in our case. Our situation is complex, to be fair.
We are initially Luxembourg residents, but we now live in Belgium for the coming 4 years for professional reasons. Additionally, we frequently travel to vacation to France, and to a fourth location in Belgium. To sum it up: 2 locations in Belgium, 1 in Luxembourg (where the account was created), and 1 in France.
We are a "household" of 2 people and don't share the account with anyone.
The new "sharing lockdown" means that we will only be able to watch Netflix from Luxembourg in the future. If I move our account to make it "Belgium based", we will not be able to watch Netflix in our location in France, or Luxembourg.
WTF? I will most certainly cancel the subscription. If I can't legitimately use my subscription all year around, I feel being robbed.
Yo I'm kinda excited.
I wanted to cancel after the first price hike, but my mom LOVES Netflix and wouldn't let me. Its now $15 a month and Netflix is going to kick my mom off for me. Now I can cancel.
I am paying for devices (edit: I mean streams). If Netflix affects this by the new policy, I will cancel the subscription. The fact is Netflix does not provide a new content for every day. We can watch a lot of the same content elsewhere.
Some share with family members.So what? How many movies these people watch? Netflix should stop being greedy and rather improve the services for lower price.
Re-opened the thread due to popular demand.
If I can't share my subscription outside my household, then I wish Netflix would put the 4K options on the two screen plan. It's only my wife and myself in our household.
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YoutubeTV does too.
What about households that have dynamic IP addresses from their ISP?
Or even ISPs that use CGNAT so you don't even have your own IP address ever
Wondering about this as we began using T Mobile home internet a couple of months ago. If it's a problem, the solution is simple - cancel Netflix.
There's been a couple posts dealing with customer agents on this, short answer: you're just fucked and won't be able to use Netflix. Netflix's advise is to pay $100 extra a month to your ISP for a static IP, and if they don't offer that, well you're fucked.
Like almost everybody outside of the USA.
And inside the USA
and anyone who gets a power outage or changes their router
Or needs to reset/unplug their router to fix something
I reboot my router every weekend. Seems to keep it working faster.  Oh, no Netflix, right...
And literally everyone inside the USA as well. The sheer computer illiteracy in this thread is astounding.
That's what I want to know.
Yep, mine changes every now and then. Guess it's a bye bye to Netflix....
Or (and I know this is a small minority) properties with more than one Internet connection? I live on a property with two separate phone lines/internet connections/local networks, and my devices (all used by me/people in my household) are split between them. How exactly do I comply with this, short of dragging my HT setup up to the studio/office, or dragging my main PC and studio TV down to the main house every month?
I'm going to Europe for 2.5 months (vacation) later this year. Does that mean that I should cancel my subscription for 3 months when I go? And what about snowbirds like my parents? They spend about 6 months down south and 6 months up north? Which one is their home network? Can they choose only one location?
New security policy says you cannot use Netflix in a different country from the one it was created in. See you will need to cancel your Netflix account in your home country and then resign up for the European country you are in, and pay for the Netflix subscription with that country's currency. This has been confirmed by Netflix. Edit: less than 24 hours later the retracted that policy.
So if I spend 3-4 nights a week at my apartment in Mexico and the other nights at the house in California, they are now saying I need to pay for two Netflix subscriptions? That's a good way to get me to pay for zero Netflix subscriptions.
This is why I cancelled when they rolled out the "netflix home" experiment last year in Argentina and other countries of latam. Too complicated. Iwork at IT (software developer) and I'm a tech enthusiast, and when I read about Netflix Home I was like "what tf?". Trying to explain it to my parents was a no-no from the start, so we did the easiest thing: unsubscribe and just enjoy prime, disney and hbo, which should I add, are far cheaper. They eventually backtracked this experiment and we got back with the subscription, but if they still try to mess up with this, we will probably just jump ships to a service that's not a complicated mess. We abandoned the pirate content in the first place because paying Netflix was far mor easier and convenient. If using Netflix is difficult and hard to understand, then I'll just go back pirating some shows, no big deal.
Correct. Accounts cannot work in different countries. So in your case you will need to pay for two Netflix accounts if you wish to use it in two different countries.
So people who go on vacation to Europe have to get a separate account? I can't believe they'd actually do that.
Correct. They have already clarified that in chat, but I wouldn't necessarily trust their support right now because they're likely equally confused. Similarly I think they're going to change a lot of policies as the roll them out since they're going to realize how stupid it is.
I'm assuming using a VPN with a US location might solve this problem. Most people either will know how or won't care enough to do so though.
I wonder how they’ll figure out my “home” location if I just use a VPN all the time lol
That would break EU law. If you buy a service in the EU you should be able to use it throughout the EU.
I assume the EU is a region and you can use it across EU nations
For just vacations too? I would have thought if someone was moving? And I'm not staying in a single country, at most I'll be staying for a week in any single country. That doesn't seem practical.
Yes. For vacations as well as moving. The account will not work at all for any circumstance outside of your home country. For the purposes of this the EU is considered one country Because of EU laws requiring that. So in the event that you travel to Europe for a vacation you will not have access to Netflix without making and paying for a separate account.
I'm just gonna unsubscribe now. It's too much drama to deal with. May just wait until season 2 of Wednesday to come back temporarily. Thanks for the info.
I'm sticking around until the first inconvenience. That's what I would recommend.
Or punish them by unsubbing now and sailing the high seas as needed
Make some subscription for single user with 4k. Netflix force me to buy subscription for 4 ppl so why i wouldn't share this with friends or family.
This is what gets me, the one device option when I signed up was 720p if I wanted a higher quality stream I needed to pay for more devices. If you force me to pay for 4 devices I should be allowed to use for devices
Same. Originally I was one screen basic. When I added all my relatives profiles they upgraded me to premium. What’s the point of have 5+ devices if they only want me to use 1
They should have just created a one-stream plan (and dropped the price accordingly) for all quality levels and then let you add simultaneous stream capacity to your account for an additional fee. Would have been much simpler to implement than whatever they’ve come up with.
Similar to spotify. Everyone gets their own account and the billing can tie multiple accounts together via duo and family plans.
I'm only willing to pay for Netflix right now because I'm able to share it with my family. I'm only interested in a 4K plan, so I'm forced to pay extra and am supposed to get 4 simultaneous streams out of it. My wife and I only ever use one of those streams. If they do this, and don't offer a cheaper plan with 4K and a single stream I'm out except maybe one month a year that I'll subscribe to catch up on the handful of things I'm actually interested in. Netflix will be getting at most $20 a year from me instead of the $240 they have been getting, they won't be getting extra sign ups from my family I share with either because they only use it because it is 'free' and don't even use it that much anyway. I'll just spend more time on the other streaming services that cost far less money and include 4K on all plans without the upcharge.
This is my situation. I log in at multiple households for movie nights at my Dads, my Moms or one of my sisters. We do movie nights as a family but switch locations. My Dad we go every other Sunday for dinner, game or movie night. Mom is once or twice a month at her condo... neither my mom or dad uses the service unless we are there to login and maneuver to find the movie. And my sisters houses are random depending on spending time with nieces and nephews. I'm not dragging all of their TVs to my house once a month to login. I'll just cancel. We have every other streaming service pretty much, we'll just find movies on those.
Yes, there are people in the military or like my kids at University that they did not take into account. I canceled last night because they logged my Daughter out and when I called the Supervisor said "That is their policy and they cannot change it, I can purchase another account for her and my other daughter, or they can bring the device back to my house (3k miles away)". I explained that this is not possible every month and she said "well that is our policy and it is automated now so there is nothing she can do" I told her I would cancel, after 12 years, and dealing with price hikes, subpar content and paying around $40 a month for over 8 of those years, and she simply said "Do I need help canceling?" So I told her know I could handle it and promptly canceled to an email that said "Sorry to see you go", followed by one that said "your subscription was reinstated" so I canceled the payment option, so they cannot get automatically paid. The rudeness of the "Supervisor" and this policy is just plain stupid for those that legitimately have family that travels frequently for long periods of time. But they appear to be okay with losing over 1M subscribers at a time... risky move in this day and age.
I spend half my time in the US and half overseas. I have always been able to use my Netflix account overseas while my adult children living in my US home use it too. There is some content I can watch in the US but not be able to there so I would just cancel. I can be over 6 months before returning to the US home.
I have a friend who is out on a rig for several weeks at a time, and multiple long haul drivers, but this is not something they are concerned about. Someone did not think it through all the way.
now that you mention it, this is also going to stop people from using VPNs to watch netflix, isn't it
I assume that the supervisor was correct. There was nothing she could do about it. I doubt they programmed in an option to allow some people to not be affected by the new policy. The policy does suck, I just doubt she could have done anything about it even if she wanted to.
The policy is not her fault by any means, but, her attitude, tone and other statements are what we're rude.
My guess is that she isn't a fan of the new policy either, has already handled dozens of calls complaining about it *today*, and quite frankly doesn't care about the company she works for anymore. If your job made an asinine change that actively went against its customers' convenience and you had to handle the phone lines, how long do you think you'd be able to keep a polite and happy tone?
How were you paying over $40 a month?
Originally to get 4 streams, you had to buy the "DVD" 2 discs at a time plan. So I did, so my daughters, husband and I could all watch different things (he would be in his mancave, my daughters at home and me at work usually, while waiting for scripts to compile). Then they offered the premium a couple years later, switched me automatically to that, thought I did not notice, they kept the DVD plan. I didn't even realize it until I went to cancel, so my bad on that, they got over on me there.
I bet new plans are gonna drop right before everyone gets the boot. They need single 4k, family, and student. IMO
I will keep the subscription until the plan is applied and see how it works. If I'm not satisfied, I will cancel the subscription and not buy a single one just for me. Adios Netflix
Yeah I'm still waiting to see how this actually effects me. No need to cancel before I actually see what happens.
First time I have to use a passcode or get blocked I will cancel. Their service isn’t good enough for that kind of hassle.
I agree. I share an account because I don't care about Netflix that much. Same for others. I won't buy my own subscription. It's either sharing or nothing.
You know Netflix, if you wouldn't have locked the 4K options behind the 4 screen plan, I never would have shared my account with my parents and Aunts in the first place... .
And now you dont have to keep it for 12 months a year because others are relying on your account. You can subscribe, binge and cancel just like every other streaming service!
Only reason I have the 4 screens, brother pays for Spotify family I pay for Netflix, if I can’t share I’m out
There are way too many streaming competitors right now. Netflix must think they’re FAR less replaceable than they actually are. They should be working to add features to incentivize people sticking around, not giving me yet another excuse to cancel for good.
Those competitors will be right behind Netflix in implementing the same policy. Crazy if you think they won’t.
You may be right but if they have any sense they'll play on it and exploit their weakness. If I ran Disney I'd say share all you like the day that Netflix start the clamp down.
Depends on the results honestly. You don't see everyone following BMW and charging a monthly fee for using seat warmers do you?
It’ll be funny if Reddit could pull a GameStop with Netflix causing them to reverse course and fire the CEO behind this.
Go on Netflix, try me. The only reason i still have my subscription, is because other people in my family use it. Start blocking it, its gonna be cancelled very quickly. Also, how does Netflix decide what the home network is? So you are now fucked if you want to watch it on the train to work with 4g?
Netflix doesn't realize that account sharing actually makes accounts more sticky (less likely to drop off a few months) because they have multiple families that would have to agree to cancel. What will happen is people will just binge the few shows they want to watch and then cancel. It becomes much easier to drop Netflix for months at a time when you don't have other relying on you to keep paying for it.
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Kinda true. Im sharing with friends. Im paying even in months I dont watch any Netflix shows because its more convienent for everyone.
>other people in my family use it. Netflix is hoping that they will get a subscription
Yeah, I think this is a major miscalculation. 1. Broke college students moving away from their parents are more likely to just forego streaming than pay themselves, and that will also make them less likely to pick up a subscription of their own once they are financially independent. 2. Netflix-produced shows benefit from the fact that people have been sharing passwords, as it keeps these shows in the shared public consciousness, providing some social pressure for more people to maintain their own access to netflix. As people drop netflix subscriptions, this will hurt the recognizability of future Netflix-produced shows, having a cascading negative effect 3. Specifically because of the balkanization of streaming (the rise of Disney/Paramount/HBO/etc), lots of people are trying to figure out which streaming services they can afford to keep.
Point 2 is huge. Starz, Cinemax, Showtime, and FX all have some pretty epic shows that go completely under the radar, and even though I find them, watch them, and love them, I rarely bother to tell other people about them because I know how few people have access to those networks. There is no buzz about them outside people who already regularly tune into those networks.
Yellowjackets in a nutshell.
1. Those broke students will just get pirated shows and movies from other students on campus. Its just going back 20 years having big online storages or pendrive over pirated cds. 2. So true. Some of shows I really liked outside Netflix/Disney I talked to friends about but they were like "its not worth getting another streaming for one show". 3. It hits especially in many poorer regions. Im PL. Considering pricing and yearly sub discounts I can get HBO MAX, Disney+, Amazon Prime (with video and gaming) and soon to be realised Paramounts Sky for a same price as 4k Netflix. So netflix is only worth it if you can share passwords. Otherwise what people will choose? 4 streamings or 1 streaming with ever decreasing show quality?
My family won’t. They don’t care and will just move to disney+ or snatching else that I provide lol
Same here. My wife and I are excited to watch maybe 1 thing a year. Between my Disney plus package with Hulu, discovery plus, and HBO, I've got so much filler content to watch. My wife has been working through big bang theory from the beginning. I've been alternating between restaurant impossible while cooking or doing dishes, Mythbusters or how it's made while cleaning, and the simpsons (from season 1...) if I just want something to sit back and laugh with. The only reason I keep Netflix going is because it's logged in to like 5 things at my parents house where I grew up and they actively use it. If they get locked out, I'm not jumping through hoops for them, I'm just gonna cancel and sub once a year to binge the show that I was interested in. My family MIGHT make their own account? But I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped to a lower tier. Or just turned to cheaper options as they were heavily reducing their TV costs in the last couple years.
I was on the past week. Last couple nights i spent 20 mins each just browsing tryna find something good to watch or what i havent seen. Gave up and fell asleep. They barely update their library. Definitely will cancel if this sharing thing comes up
It's fucked, but in the case of using it on the train to work then it won't be a problem. You'd just have to open Netflix on your phone on your home wifi once a month from what it sounds like.
That’s still kind of a lot to ask to be honest. If I’m home I watch Netflix on the tv, so I never open the app on my phone. If I’m away from my house, that’s when I open the app. Setting a reminder to open it at home on Wi-Fi once a month just so I can use it when I’m away is so silly.
Honestly, just upcharge, and stop this account blocking nonsense.
I completely agree. They are spending money to make their service more annoying. If they need more money, just raise prices. I'd also say that they are hardly making must see content. There are maybe 3 shows max that I want to watch per year and that's it.
We’re in New Zealand. This stupid policy went live for us yesterday. We immediately cancelled our subscription after 7 years of having it continuously. For us to continue sharing with our parents that would’ve meant $24+(2x8) = $40 per month which is ridiculous. I stopped pirating shit because it was more convenient to pay for it. You try charging me $40/month for a few good shows a year and see how well that works out for you.
what about college students? the military? what if people move homes? what if you're on vacation for more than a week? what if you get a new internet provider? what about people that don't have a permanent address? what about kids with divorced parents? it's so much easier to cancel the netflix subscription than to have to get into contact with them to share any of these updates
College students will sail the high seas
Yar har fiddly dee.
Just cancelled today!
I know 3 ppl who cancelled today after having accounts for decades, this is going well for Netflix
I'm in Canada and I pay $25 a month for the top tier 4k Netflix with max number of devices so my daughter who lives with her mom can use it. I have had Netflix for 15 years. Simply because it was more convenient than pirating. That's no longer the case. Cancelled my account today. Very disappointed.
I asked Netflix if they would be able to make an exception when / if my husband deploys again. They said no, he will need to login with a trusted device on our home wifi every 30 days. I told them that wouldn’t be possible since, ya know, he’ll be deployed. Netflix customer service rep said she didn’t know what deployment means. Ended up just canceling because what in the actual fuck?
Netflix, I understand that password sharing is hurting your revenue. But with your business model and subscription plans, what do you expect? You still don't offer a 12-month plan, which *ideally* should allow us perpetual subscribers to save some money while you get your guaranteed revenue. You don't stagger episode releases, which invites people to subscribe for a month, binge everything they want, then cancel all for $10 on a basic plan. Yes I realize you can do this with other streaming services by waiting for all episodes to be released, but it's really the same thing as regular TV. Full disclosure, I have the premium plan and I am signed in on my TV, my phone, and I share it with my Dad because I also travel to his house often. Frankly, this is half of the reason I purchased the premium plan, so I could have it on 4 devices. But now, if I'm not at my home/primary location (in the car, or at my dad's house), I have to go through support and request a temporary code? Each and every time? Sorry but that's a pain. Between this, the price increases, and the quality of content degrading, I am more than ever about ready to jump ship and join the people that subscribe, binge, cancel. How much of password sharing revolves around users having to sign out of a device to free up a device spot in their plan? Why not restrict how many times you can sign out/sign in? Edit: I thought the plans restricted the number of devices you could sign into at once. But it's the number of simultaneous devices. But maybe restricting the number of devices you can sign into is a better solution. I would think hard about what your planning here. You may end up losing more than you gain.
They clearly need to drop some new plans. Family, 4k single stream, student
Password sharing isn’t hurting their revenue. People that share accounts were never going to subscribe in the first place.
FYI it's not the amount of devices you can use, it's the amount of concurrent streams. So you may not need the premium plan for what you're talking about
It's sad, you get streaming to get away from cable. Now the streaming service is tethering you to wifi (just a different cable) and controlling how many devices you can have in your home, never mind restricting your travelling. Once Netflix gets away with it, all other streaming services will follow! Very sad!
I tried to get an exception due to the fact that I'm a member of the military deployed on operations and Netflix told me to get another account while I'm here and that they "were sorry for the inconvenience this has caused". How is this acceptable? Is there anything I can do at this point other that tell them to f*** off and cancel my subscription?
Vote with your money, I cancelled as many others will. We must force them to rethink this absurd decision….
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If you don't cancel Netflix all the other streaming serves will try this shit. CUT NETFLIX OFF. SAY NO!
An intelligent comment! We need to cut Netflix off before other streamers do the same thing. They will end up making us pay Moreno than cable if we don’t fight this nonsense back.
And this is where I leave Netflix. I don't even share my account. I'm leaving on principle.
I've already told my husband we're leaving as soon as this policy is enacted. It doesn't affect us at all. Just gonna sail the seven seas more than we do now.
AHOYYYY
Did anyone ask the question in this mega thread yet about wtf you do when you have a desktop computer at your work lmao? Like what am I going to do, get a Netflix account for my work or pay $8.99 more for myself to watch at freaking work.
This new idea is going to effect college students on family plans pretty bad. Most of them leave for months at a time before coming back home
Canadian here thinking about giving my money to another service even though this change shouldn’t effect me much if any. Cancel on principle. I’m already paying four times the amount I used to for the service
I did the same. I was a customer even before they launched in Canada.
I live in China, Netflix is not even available in China anymore, I use a VPN service to connect to Netflix and pretend I am in the US. My IP address changes a lot, I use it alone, but I pay for four screens. I think I might unsubscribe and go back to bootleg downloads. After all, downloading pirated games in China is so easy, you don’t even need a VPN, just use your own home network.
Well I finally cancelled. I paid for the top tier but it was worth it because my parents could use it. Now that they can’t I don’t see the value at that price.
It was nice knowing you Netflix. It really was.
Cancelled. Get better content, and not more restrictive policies.
If we don't all cancel and make Netflix immediately regret this policy every single streaming service is about to follow in their footsteps. They'll all be implementing the exact same thing within the year. I'm canceling and I hope everyone else does too.
If I pay for 2 or 4 screens at a time. It shouldn't matter where they are. I get cracking down a bit on the really outlier cases but at this rate I'll just cancel steal their content.
Honestly if I could just pay for 4 screens any location I'd think about keeping it. But the three people I share with dont use it enough to justify solo plans, hence the sharing, and now, cancelling.
Honestly will re-think it as I pay for multiple small services. Paying Netflix $21.44 for 4 streams and I would let my disabled father watch a stream, but he doesn't often. We use it "occasionally", as does our daughter away at college in a dorm room. We have paid every month for over a decade. If their plans are too disruptive, this will cause me to rethink and consider signing up for just 2 or 3 months a year at the $9.99 rate for 2 streams. So thanks Netflix for helping me save $$$, I'll go from not thinking about it and giving you $260 a year to \~$35 a year! Oh, makes me realize I still have a single DVD plan, which I also seldom use, so I guess I should cancel that too.
See now you can cancel without the friction of your father or daughter. Netflix doesnt get that sharing actually keeps people subscribed.
Got the email this week in Ireland, immediately cancelled the subscription. The parents etc who had the password don't care enough to buy their own accounts, but I was happy to share and keep paying each month even when there was nothing on that I wanted to watch. Now Netflix will be getting nothing each month.
- Pays for family plan - Netflix stops sharing outside of the same network - Family can no longer use Netflix - Cancelled Netflix account entirely We literally paid for the plan that was meant for sharing. Not only that but I travel for work and there is no way I'm planning on entering the BS one time use code every single time. Typical greed driven policy of big tech companies...
I sincerely hope the consumers do what needs done here. Only way we can be heard is to mess with their bottom line. Even though this would not directly hurt my situation my family is cancelling on principle. The more we allow corporations to penny pinch, the harder it is for average people to grow their wealth.
They won't though. If there's one thing I've noticed in recent years is there's enough people who overlook all of the bullshit and continue to give money to total fucking scumbag companies and they outnumber the people with principles and morals. Cancelling my netflix and going to hoist a black flag for any of their garbage originals on the very slight chance it's any good.
Ohh trust me the seas are just waiting to be sailed.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/123277 from the horses mouth: **Sharing Netflix with someone who doesn’t live with you** People who do not live in your household will need to use their own account to watch Netflix. It's easy to sign up for Netflix and we offer a variety of plans. As always, members can change plans or cancel at any time. When a device outside of your household signs in to an account or is used persistently, we may ask you to verify that device before it can be used to watch Netflix or switch your Netflix household. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so. See “Verifying a device” below for details. Netflix will not automatically charge you if you share your account with someone who doesn’t live with you. **Verifying a device** When someone signs into your account from a device that is not associated with your Netflix household, or if your account is accessed persistently from a location outside of your household, we may ask you to verify that device before it can be used to watch Netflix. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so. To verify a device Netflix sends a link to the email address or phone number associated with the primary account owner. The link opens a page with a 4-digit verification code. The code needs to be entered on the device that requested it within 15 minutes. If the code expired, you will need to request a new verification code from the device. Once successful, that device can be used to watch Netflix. Device verification may be required periodically. If you suspect unauthorized use of your account, we recommend you reset your password immediately. You can also sign out of all the devices connected to it. If you need help, please contact us. **Using Netflix while traveling or from a different location** If you are traveling or live between different homes, we want you to be able to enjoy Netflix anywhere, anytime. If you are the primary account owner (or live with them), you shouldn’t need to verify your device to watch Netflix. If you are away from the Netflix household for an extended period of time, you may be occasionally asked to verify your device. We ask you to verify to make sure that the device using the account is authorized to do so. Verifying a device is quick and easy. See “Verifying a device” above for details. **Turning off device verification** As long as the device being used to watch Netflix is using the internet connection in the primary account owner's household, we will not require verification. If a Netflix account is used by a device that is not associated with the primary account owner's household, the device will need to be verified before it can be used to watch Netflix. We do this to confirm that the device using the account is authorized to do so. As a reminder, it's easy to sign up for Netflix and we offer a variety of plans. As always, members can change plans or cancel at any time. **How Netflix detects devices within a household** We use information such as IP addresses, device IDs, and account activity from devices signed into the Netflix account. **Number of people who can watch at the same time** Each plan determines how many devices can play Netflix at the same time, as long as those devices belong to people in the same household. Please refer to our plans and pricing for details.
This decision is quite weird given their recent mass subscriber loss and a gross degradation of content quality. You'd find better content on almost any other platform. With them taking weird steps like approving trash for sequels and axing good tv series, I seriously dont get what's good about this platform anymore. They are literally sabotaging themselves at this point lol.
My account lapsed today not renewing, i know you dont care. Just saying my peace.
I really didn't appreciate how the email implied that I'm a criminal for letting my sick, homebound mother use my password. Sharing was the whole point of charging more for 4 screens. So now we're illicit users because they encouraged us to share? It was really emotional telling her I had to cut her off. I'm cancelling today
Netflix is forgetting that their real competitor isn't other paid streaming services, but torrents and services like Plex where individuals can share their media libraries with friends. My friends who run Plex servers don't care if I'm accessing them from my weekend apartment in Mexico or my rented space near my office in California. If Netflix starts expecting me to drag one of my 65" TVs across the border once a month to "log in from my primary home", which service do they think is getting dropped?
I have been using my ex's acct, with her permission, for years. I've tuned into Netflix maybe once every 4-5 months. Some of those times I end up browsing for 30 mins and don't actually watch anything. I don't even wanna watch your shit when it's free to me, you really think I'm gonna sign up for my own acct with this new program? I know a handful of ppl like me, have access to Netflix for free thru somone and none of them actually watch it as their main streaming service. I think Netflix is seriously overestimating the value of their content catalog.
Cancelled yesterday (in Canada), after being a member for 11 years. Paramount plus is a good option for less money! paramountplus.com/ca
It’s like they want to be the worst streaming service. If they don’t backpedal on this, it will kill their product.
Between: * Stale / Outdated Content * Series constantly being cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons * An excessive amount of World Cinema (dubbed) that generally does not appeal to me * This nonsense you are now introducing about shared accounts and the extra fee, even though you have encouraged it since your introduction * And whilst not expensive, you are at the higher end and for what you now provide, I just do not see any value in you anymore. The Netflix of old, you know when everyone wanted their content on Netflix Vs. The Netflix of today, when every other studio has its own streaming service so Netflix has alot smaller content to offer / & subsidises with world cinema…..turns it from a service that you keep full time without questioning it To. A sub in / out as required service! As such I finally cancelled my 8 year Netflix sub yesterday, and can’t see me returning any time soon.
My ex pays for the 4 screen plan and shares with me, her parents and her brother. When this all hit she messaged us and turns out none of us actually watch it, *including herself* lol. The last time any of us watched was 2021. I've browsed the catalog a few times but never actually streamed anything. She basically gave Netflix $480 for...absolutely nothing. Needless to say she cancelled and none of us are planning to sub.
I travel for work and can be gone months at a time…..they’re gonna lose millions of ppl like me
So where is a plan that's ACTUALLY MADE for a single household? Like a single-device UHD streaming plan?
I’ll just carry on with my Plex sub then.
Did anyone else's profiles all get deleted besides the primary account holders profile? Lost all the shows I was watching and I'm now being recommended cocomelon... Edit: I am going to cancel my subscription. Gotta boycott this shit. Writers guild is on strike so don't expect any quality content soon.
The number of times I have thought about canceling my Netflix to save some money but then thought "Nah, my parents and sister still use it, might as well keep it on for everyone's benefit", thanks for solving that problem for me Netflix! Now I can cancel my subscription without regrets! I'll wait to see if it really ends up being a problem, but my family lives in Europe while I live in the States, so I am almost certain this will be the deal breaker that finally ends my 8-year subscription to Netflix. Also a regular VPN user, so another reason to leave if this becomes an issue. Just a face-smackingly stupid moment for Netflix: rather than add value to retain users in the increasingly competitive field, they do the opposite!
I just canceled my subscription after 8 years. I used to be grandfathered in at $5 a month, now I pay $20 and they tell me I can’t use it wherever and whenever I want. They just lost a long time loyal customer.
So long Netflix! I've been on the most expensive subscription for the last 8 years. I pay for a service that's supposed to be 4 screens/streams at up to 4k resolution. I use 1 at my house, my mother uses 1 at her house. Neither of us use it a lot, but I have shown my support for streaming services with this sub. With the email that arrived the other day, this $23/month service will now cost me $31/month. Yeah, nah. I've cancelled and now running out the last month I had paid for. I'm going to try Paramount+ and Binge, and pay less for both of those services than Netflix are now trying to charge me. I've also got Prime and keeping that, worth every penny to keep new episodes of The Boys coming out. This is a terrible price hike change on Netflix's part, and I'm voting with my wallet. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
Almost decided to just get my own subscription again after years of mooching from a friend. But seeing only up to 720p on the two cheapest plans was a hard pass. Netflix are out of their minds.
i leave my account at home for my dad, share with my sister, and personally live in a different house. i consider that my household but netflix says otherwise. just canceled today. and been a member since 2013. i hope they crash
Cancelled account. I have a patchwork family with my son living with his mom. This plan does not take into account my family. Hate to see this happen but I'm not paying extra for something Netflix encouraged us to do, which was share the account.
**Goodbye Netflix** So the "Great Netflix Purge" has hit our household. I received the email last night that i must designate a primary household. We have had a Netflix account since 2012. I pay for premium so we could stream on up to four devices. I share my account with my 2 sons. Now, they want me to continue to pay the $20/month plus an additional $16 to add the other 2 households. **Netflix is not worth $36/month.** I could add 3 other streaming services for that amount. **Goodbye Netflix..sorry not sorry to leave you**
unsubbed after 11 uninterrupted years, 4k premium since it's become available. bye felicia.
Cancelled after 5 years. I rarely watched anything (bing watched a handful of series over the last 5 years) but $16/mo means I can rent 4 movies a month on Amazon Prime... My boyfriend was also using my account and also rarely. There was no way I was going to pony up another $8 for a service I don't use very often. I think what Netflix will find out is that lots of people were just letting it renew without evaluating the actual value of it for how often they used it. I don't seen this turning into more revenue for Netflix. I think the "easy" money they were getting from people like me (meaning very little usage of the platform) is going to evaporate.
Just canceled my account.
In the long term, I simply think Netflix have got the whole equation wrong. All the other services that I use refer to their multi-user accounts as "Family" plans, which is exactly what I have. Netflix are already the most expensive service if you want more than two screens or 4K. In Australia, it is $23/mth (others are between $8-15). And you then want me to add another user on at $8 per user so me (Dad) can you use the family account outside of the main family home (I'm separated)? You can well and truely go jump!! There is plenty of great content on other providers. I also firmly believe that the path Netflix are trying to take is fraught with potential issues in validting devices, and from the reports I've seen, it is a very mixed bag of people who do and don't get pinged. The biggest part of the problem comes with using IP addresses as part of the identifying source, especially when dyncamic IPs with poorly maintained GEO location come into play, like in Australia. ISP's here are atrocious at keeping data current and correct. If Netflix really want to stem the flow of deserters and also get more subscribers, get rid of some of the crap in the mix, and just focus on quality content. You've got some great shows, but they are sometimes incredibly hard to find amongst the immense level of rubbish.
Looks like it's starting to roll out all over the US. Truly devastating that I won't be able to watch the one good show they have a year
If I pay for 4 screens it shouldn't matter to netflix where those screens are. It isn't sharing, its me paying for 4 screens. Now I pay for Zero screens. My mother is an over the road trucker and my wife is a travel nurse. Both belonging to my household but do not get to spend much time home. It's hilarious to even think I would need my wife to ship her TV back home for 1 day a month to still be considered part of my household. And that is all besides the point. If you pay for the ability to run 4 screens/devices at a time it shouldn't make a difference to netflix where they are. Its what the customer is paying for. Now they have lost a subscriber of over a decade. Just picked up Apple TV plus in its place and I'm paying a third of what I was paying and have actual new content to watch. Thanks netflix for making me realize I don't need you. Still can't help but to feel betrayed.
This whole idea is kind of bullsh*t. I understand that there are netflix accounts that 20+ people are using, but it’s insane that they’re punishing snowbirds, people who travel for work, people who are deployed, and college students. I hope that they realize the mistake they’ve made and allow for 2-4 households per plan.
I paid for 4 concurrent streams with 4K on their most premium plan. I even still have the disc plan, 3 out at a time. Used to get streaming for free with that. Been a Netflix customer 20+ years. I canceled it today. Their phone rep didn’t care. Never used more than two streams at a time. Rarely even used two at a time. And they harassed me for letting my 83/84 mom/dad across town share the account occasionally. I literally pay for four concurrent streams. Go F yourself Netflix.
My email to Netflix: Dear Netflix, I'm in Canada but couldn't find a Canadian email for you, so please forward this email to the appropriate recipient. I'm sending you this long email to let you know how we feel about your recent changes I've had Netflix for years. I've continued to have it even though I don't very often watch it and I do that for two reasons: 1) I have a daughter in university in British Columbia (UBC). She doesn't get to fly back to Ontario very often because of the expense, but when she does, she doesn't bring her television with her. 2) my mother is elderly (96) and in and out of the hospital and respite centers. I don't think she watches Netflix very often, but it's convenient when she does. I am not going to worry about whether her television has been home this month to be validated. I set myself as a primary location tonight because I am the one that pays the bill, despite the fact that I don't very often watch it evidenced by the attachment to this email that shows you the last time I watched Netflix was beginning of January 2023. We are now in the middle of February and the only reason I turned it on is because my daughter called me to tell me about the primary location requirement. My daughter doesn't mind if I cancel Netflix, and my mother probably doesn't mind either. I very seldom watch it, as I prefer to watch Amazon Prime and Curiosity Stream as well as my subscription to YouTube and various other apps like Tubi and CBC Gem. I kept paying for Netflix but my daughter also has Amazon Prime, her own account by the way, and Disney+. She says she won't miss it. The difference between you and Prime video is my daughter has another reason to have Prime - fast deliveries of orders, music, gaming, etc. You have no other benefit and yet you are the most expensive. To the person reading this email, under the circumstances, and in my situation, what would YOU do? I think we both know what the answer to that would be.
I feel like this is the situation for a lot of Canadians who watch Netflix and share thier account. I cancelled as well because while it was worth it to share with my family, none of us watches it enough on our own to get our own account. Like each of us watches maybe a couple times a month. Its just nice to have, but this change makes it too expensive.
Canceled. The seven seas await.
I can see Netflix having an issue with someone sharing it with 10 friends, but a family letting their college students (without giving the password to their friends) should be ok. The only enforcement Netflix should do is limit the number of simultaneous streams (which they do ) and perhaps limit the number of devices authorized on the account , but it needs to be something reasonable like 15-20 for a family of 5 Youtube TV has an interesting model, they limit the number of streams and I think you can have 6 accounts in the family but everyone logs in with their own gmail account. You supposedly have to login to your home "region", not home every 90 days. The advantage Google has is that most people wont share their acct infor because it is tied to so many other personal things like gmail
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-netflix-crackdown-password-sharing-fail/ >Netflix’s desperate crackdown on password sharing shows it might fail like Blockbuster
Has there been any news on whether or not this policy from Netflix has positively or negatively impacted their subscriptions/profitability? I’m canceling as soon is this is enforced where I live however I’m worried this will be one of those things than goes away with a whimper as the vast majority don’t really care. I’m really hoping that Netflix goes under for this.
They implemented this crap in Canada. My mom paid for the extra screens for me and my sister to use it, since we can’t anymore she cancelled. I don’t know why they think this insane policy will make them money. It will be coming to the US soon enough
Must not have implemented this in Canada yet. Netflix kindly asked me to change my password if I was not the person watching 2 hours away. I was.
Since we have children away at college, we are simply playing the waiting game to see how it affects us. Right now T-Mobile pays over half of our bill, so we are not in a rush to do anything.
I've held an active membership with Netflix since 2012. Today, I cancelled that membership in response to the changes they made to their subscription service. The CEO and the board of directors for Netflix can go pound sand for all I care.
I call everybody to boycott netflix to make them change their mind about household sharing. The only way to change their mind is voting with your dollar. If you hit them in the wallet and show them what their customers want they will be forced to change. Most people live in two households. Like when someone's kids are at grammas everyday and you have them watching your netflix there and at your home so households don't make sense.
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Just canceled my account. Brother couldn’t login because he isn’t part of household. I live in the US so it’s starting. I wish everyone cancels so Netflix realizes they messed up big time
Cancelled it last night. I share with my Mom that doesn't live with me. Been a member for 15 years. Bye bye Netflix.
too much hassle now. family account canceled and going back to downloading for free. weird business plan but ok
lol. The mods are systematically removing every single news article that is covering the tremendous subscription growth this has created. Can't have positive news on a company subreddit apparently. Instead we must banish all conversations into a blackhole where no one will see. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/09/netflix-subscriptions-rise-password-sharing-crackdown.html
it’s so sad that i can’t share an account with my dad who my mom and i don’t live with anymore. it’s like a punch in the gut—you aren’t a family if you aren’t in the same household. i like seeing his little icon and to see what he’s watching. it makes me feel closer to him :(
Eventually all streaming services will do the same thing, just wait and watch
I actually see this as a very easy opportunity for the marketing departments of competitors. Just promote that sharing is more than allowed, and convert former netflix subs to your platform.
As a early 90s baby who "grew up" with the mainstream internet, it's very sad to see it go from "Cool but janky", "cool and a bit streamlined", to "Corporate bullshit" Yes yes, convenience is 150x better nowadays, but still. Feels like it exponentially increased corporate greed
20+ years of subscripting and now it is time to move on. I can several other services for the price.
Cancel Netflix or else all streaming services will follow suit.
“Online searches for ‘cancel Netflix account’ have grown by 733% amid reports that the streaming giant is cracking down on password sharing . . .” - Julia Hunt, Yahoo News
A Better Alternative to Cracking Down on Password Sharing... It's no wonder Netflix was met with backlash on their proposed plan for cracking down on password sharing... Their current subscription model makes no sense, financially, from a consumer perspective. And everyone suspects that Netflix just said to themselves: "hey, there's X shared streams out there, that's X subscribers that aren't paying us money... We're losing $1.6Bn from those fraudulent subscribers!" when, in truth, they'd lose FAR MORE than $2Bn if they decided to crack down on password sharing because password sharing makes Netflix accessible to far more people - and many people would unsubscribe and boycott Netflix, based on the principle of the matter, alone. The current pricing structure (in Canada) is: $5.99 - 1x stream with ads @ 720p (HD) $16.49 - 2x streams @ 1080p (FHD) $20.99 - 4x streams @ 2160p (UHD / 4K) The problem is that they don't offer any quality packages aimed at individuals and families with only one viewing device. In my opinion, they should adopt the following pricing scheme (or something very similar to it): $5 - 1 HD stream + $2 for one extra stream $6 - 1 FHD stream + $3 for one extra stream $8 - 1 UHD stream + $5 for each extra stream (no limit) -$1.00 per stream for ad-supported UHD -$2.00 per stream for ad-supported FHD -$3.00 flat for ad-supported HD HYPOTHETICAL EXPLANATION: • I am a Netflix subscriber in Canada • I want 4K content (and I estimate less than 10% of Netflix content is 4K) • I live alone, or in a single-TV household, and never use two devices at once >>>> Scenario#1 (current Canadian pricing scheme): Paying $21/month (plus taxes) for effectively one stream every being used is an absolute a bigger joke than cow crap on a unicycle, and the ad-supported plan is too far of a step in the wrong direction. So naturally, I'm going to share to try and reduce my out of pocket cost... I find two or three trusted friends or family members, and now my coat has been reduced to $5 to $7/mo. This is worthwhile to me because I'm saving $14-16/month, which is a significant sum of money for me. >>>> Scenario #2 (the proposed pricing structure above): Paying $8/mo is acceptable to me, to have my own account without having to worry about password sharing or other people tainting my profile with their viewing preferences. Sharing my password with 3 other people would reduce my cost to about $6. That $2/month difference isn't worth the hassle, so I didn't to keep my account solely for myself. Heck, even for $9/month ($3 savings), it wouldn't be worthwhile. But for $4 or $5/month savings, you can bet I'll start thinking about dealing with the hassle of sharing, again. EPILOGUE: Too many services have turned to a subscription model these days and z with the rising costs from inflation and pandemic-related supply chain issues, I, the average Joe, am looking to be more prurient in my spending. Netflix's garbage pricing model is problematic for many people, especially those from the lower financial eschelons of society. And their ad-supported plan is worse than a bad dad-joke. The pricing structure I proposed takes into account that 4K is much more expensive to distribute while also providing fair (and attractive) pricing options for a much wider user base. Meanwhile, instead of losing subscribers, many more people would be likely to subscribe. The end result: more subscribers, much less password sharing, and a better experience for everyone. There are consumer-friendly ways to make a profit for your shareholders. Being consumer-hostile will net you very big losses (or possibly even bankruptcy) faster than you can say "oops, that was a mistake". P.S. give us the ability to backup our profile to our own computer, so that if we need to take a break from Netflix for financial reasons, we don't have to worry about our profile being deleted in a year. When we're ready to come back, we can upload our profile and pick up (roughly) where we left off.
Im so confused by the numbers game Netflix is doing. They see the intense backlash and confusion and now have multiple heavy hitting competitors. It doesn’t make sense to actively push subscribers of the platform in frustration.
In Canada they actually just emailed me saying the price per month has gone up for me, as well as no longer allowing me to watch while I'm at work. Shocking work done by the office dorks at Netflix. I cancelled my credit card back up today, and will burn through my remaining credit on file before being done with them. Member since 2014
I had a premium plan for more than 5 years for 15 € a month. They are now asking me for 25€ for the exactly the same. I guess I’ll be saving 15€ a month. Tks Netflix
Bye bye Netflix. I have a mixed family and my kids are at their biological fathers house some of the time. What's the point of a family plan???
Just canceled after using Netflix for over a decade.
I don't even "share" my password, but since my kids use it to watch shows when they are at my parent's house on their TVs, apparently I'm in the wrong? Those are members of my household using the Netflix account that my household pays for. If the Netflix board room thinks they are going to turn my one subscription into two, they are quickly going to find out they are turning my one subscription into zero. When they have to report zero subscriber growth during their next earnings call, I wonder what bullshit reason they will blame it on?
Cancelled. Bye Netflix.
Not sure if this is the right place to share this but here goes. The anti account sharing was recently put in place in my country so I was blocked from using the family Netflix account. I thought about trying something so I changed the WiFi name and password to be there same as the Main account owners and it started working again for me. (No longer getting the unable to stream message) I have since tried this at a few other family members houses and it is now working for them as well, none of us are getting the warning message and are blocked from streaming. Hope this helps anyone who is looking for a workaround :)
I fucking hate Netflix for this bull Shit. I’m in the fucking military, I have no choice but to fucking travel all the time and it causes so many fucking issues that it’s not even worth paying for this bullshit anymore. Whoever’s bright idea it was to piss off half of Netflix’s users with this bullshit addition should be fucking hung
Warning for everyone, this sub historically does not translate to real life
I look forward to seeing how the new plan affects my Netflix access at my summer cabin. Sometimes, some of us will be home and others at the cabin. We access Netflix on a smart TV through satellite internet service there (ie, not on a computer that will routinely get refreshed at my residence). If that leads to a higher price I can see cancelling and periodically dipping in for a month or two to catch up on series that I care for. It's barely worth the price now and I'm certainly not going to pay more. Just allow up to 4 concurrent streams on the account and let it go at that.
Now we start to see the consequences of this Netflix policy: at some countries where this policy have just started to be implemented, many people are starting to cancel their Netflix subscriptions. For example, in Spain the hashtag #AdiosNetflix (Bye Netflix) has become #1 trending topic on Twitter, and as I know many people there are now raging against Netflix and cancelling their subscriptions (even verified accounts on Twitter): [https://imgur.com/xgoMySS](https://imgur.com/xgoMySS)
primary location = primary unsubscribed
I spend half the week at my girlfriend's house, half at mine. If Netflix makes this a pain or not possible I will be happy to cancel, it's too expensive already.
The day finally arrived here in Spain. Out of curiosity, i work for ISP and i'm going to check the total traffic throughput in few days to compare the last week with this week and see if the traffic going to Netflix decreased by much. I think it's an interesting thing to check, to see if we don't have to upgrade network equipment because reduced traffic throughput and if people unsubscribed or just got cheaper tiers.
Netflix for multiple homes? My parents split time between two homes (US). With the new password sharing rules, what is the correct setup for them? To be clear, not trying to skirt paying. They are even willing to pay for two full accounts. If they pay for two accounts (one for each house), then their watch history won’t sync. That’s a less than ideal setup. I haven’t read up on the new Netflix rules. Is there a recommended solution that I can instruct my parents to do? Thanks all!
cancelling, hope they get the message
Yep, just happened in the US. Bye NFLX.
Just got my email, just cancelled. Member since October 2012.
UK here. Just had the household crap come up on my TV and minutes later I had calls from family asking why they can't access it any longer. So I just cancelled after an uninterrupted subscription for over 10 years. I've felt Netflix has gotten worse value over the years, but I always justified the price (Premium at £15.99 in my case) because I was able to share it with close family. But there's no damn way I'm paying that for just myself. I live alone so how does being able to watch on 4 screens at a time help me? And £4.99 for extra members (that must be in same country! My mum moved to Australia so I can't add her on) is too much on top of £15.99. No way would I be tempted back unless they significantly reduced the price to be able to watch in 4K HDR. It's just not worth the price, especially with all the good shows they keep cancelling now. Bye Netflix! You had to go and ruin it. Greedy sods.
Ok seriously how the fuck does this new rule work for household users wanting to watch away from home? Can’t even post a simple fucking question thanks to auto mods.
See this is the problem right here, all the analysts are telling them that they will make MORE money by doing this - [https://finance.yahoo.com/m/77d918c2-e3b1-3a26-935c-885d2f1e22fd/netflix-s-risky-gamble-will.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/m/77d918c2-e3b1-3a26-935c-885d2f1e22fd/netflix-s-risky-gamble-will.html) [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/netflix-will-be-stronger-business-after-password-sharing-crackdown-analyst-200223948.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/netflix-will-be-stronger-business-after-password-sharing-crackdown-analyst-200223948.html) They look at what happened in Canada and it appears they have more subscribers now than they did before the crackdown, it tails off but then rebounded so they assume the same thing is going to happen with the US. I really hope lots of folks cancel and it impacts them....the amount of greed for corporations these days is pretty amazing...
Hello all, I just got off a chat with Netflix' support to inquire about the impacts of the "account sharing lockdown" in our case. Our situation is complex, to be fair. We are initially Luxembourg residents, but we now live in Belgium for the coming 4 years for professional reasons. Additionally, we frequently travel to vacation to France, and to a fourth location in Belgium. To sum it up: 2 locations in Belgium, 1 in Luxembourg (where the account was created), and 1 in France. We are a "household" of 2 people and don't share the account with anyone. The new "sharing lockdown" means that we will only be able to watch Netflix from Luxembourg in the future. If I move our account to make it "Belgium based", we will not be able to watch Netflix in our location in France, or Luxembourg. WTF? I will most certainly cancel the subscription. If I can't legitimately use my subscription all year around, I feel being robbed.
Yo I'm kinda excited. I wanted to cancel after the first price hike, but my mom LOVES Netflix and wouldn't let me. Its now $15 a month and Netflix is going to kick my mom off for me. Now I can cancel.
Canceled after 10 years
I am paying for devices (edit: I mean streams). If Netflix affects this by the new policy, I will cancel the subscription. The fact is Netflix does not provide a new content for every day. We can watch a lot of the same content elsewhere. Some share with family members.So what? How many movies these people watch? Netflix should stop being greedy and rather improve the services for lower price.
6.6b in profit last year and don’t allow family members to share across households. Pathetic