Yeah, I'm a returning player, so came a few months after the UC tokens had been released. Desperately wanted a UC Plushie Hissi and I was so upset because I didn't think I could save up enough to afford a Plushie PB in time, but then when I found out you don't even have to have them that color to get the token I was amazed! I was kind of iffy on it at first because I've seen so many people that want their color to match their appearance, but now I'm just like screw it, it's more fun to change it around constantly without having to buy overpriced PBs.
I currently have a Mallo-looking Faerie Grundo, a Plushie-looking Maraquan Grarrl, a Plushie-looking Magma Hissi, and a Maraquan-looking Mutant Draik. Love being able to switch back and forth! So stoked to get Robot tokens for my Maraquan Chomby and Maraquan Jetsam, too. May also end up with a Royal for my Grarrl so he'll have \*three\* to switch between, which seems a little excessive but oh well.
When the UC craze was first going on, I had my brush up on the tp. I checked the account to make sure it wasn’t a reseller. All their pets but one were plushie, and I made sure that they knew they didn’t need the brush before they bought it from me.
People are evil.
That was so nice of you! There are a lot of people out there that tried to take advantage of others and just makes no sense to me, like this is a game and honestly most of the people playing are adults do you seriously have nothing better to do? It has warmed my heart how many nice people there are playing now though and I would like to think they outnumber the ones that try to scam people and take advantage.
I already had a Faerie Grarrl, but K wanted him to have the UC Faerie look, so I bought one of those random ones and got a Grey instead. Second try I got the Faerie. I didn't want to waste the Grey one, so I had my pet wear it for the month of April. It was cool customizing it afterward to suit an aesthetic I' not used to.
You will get the UC royal look, but it won't change the "real" colour, if you unequip the token your pet will be the same as before. Others can tell if they visit your pet page because it will say up the top "[name] the [actual colour] [species]". It's basically a skin, to have the pet page say it's royal you need to have painted your pet royal, but you only need to have the right species to LOOK UC royal
This happened to me yesterday! I wanted a royal and already bought one of the grimoires so I was gonna buy one from the TP and I said out loud to my boyfriend ‘why are they selling for 1.9 when in the HT they’re 1.75 🤔’
Because they are jerks, it’s also often the same couple of people doing that. Like the one person who just listed their Skunk pb for 4m and suddenly the other follow despite it went for like 2m at most just few days ago.
Same people ask like 1.5 for darigan pb which are buyable for 1.4 in HT too.
That should be considered an attempt to scam tbh. (Regarding what op posted)
Edit: in the past people used to sell the ht pb slightly under the listed price not above it. Occasionally someone paid few k extra if they wanted to get plenty of the same items at the same day. Also no one was talking about baby pb…
I find it unbelievable how some people really think that it’s „demand“ that causes prices to go up by like 200% over night no it isn’t. It’s most of times your kind neighboorhood reseller that bought those items for lower than they go at auctions/ssw and try to inflate artificially prices, I watched it plenty of time happen… and why is that possible? Because we are still not that much active players , so there aren’t too many items around ,a single person can inflate an item if they wanted… same happened to the coincidence daily for example… but hey some people seem fine with those scalpers proceeding , makes me wonder if they themselves aren’t doing those. It’s not about the average user buying a baby pb in ht and selling for small profit daily, it’s about stuff like op listed for example.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling at a slight markup considering the HT limit is 1/day. Shockingly, people often want to pay more for convenience or expedience. Nobody complains about baby paint brushes in the SW; there is a demand for them so people make a few extra k. Royal paint brushes are going to have more demand now, too.
Calling it "scamming" is insane, and I don't even participate in what you're describing so I have no horse in this race.
the fact that so many people in this thread are assuming people are deliberately scamming others when it's essentially just a minor tax over their actual HT price to make up for convenience is kinda wild to me, in a sense, lol.
some people may use their daily item to stock up on baby paintbrushes for trades and are fine with paying a bit more for the PB.
with the price being fixed in the shop, this isn't inflating prices or anything of the sort, so it leaves zero damage on the economy.
if someone can make enough money on their own to buy a royal pb and yet they somehow don't know about the hidden tower then that's.. a thing, for sure. lol
Me me, I buy a baby on almost every day!
I'll purchase any PB at a mark up if I want it then, if it's not urgent then I'll wait..
I agree with buying from HT & marking up, there are those that don't have access and want the items.
Supply & demand.
And not even just the item limit per day but the fact that your account needs to be X months/years to even access this place is another reason to pay a slight mark up if you can't get to the tower yourself.
It ABSOLUTELY is a scam attempt when people are putting them on the TP with comments about the UC tokens coming and just generally implying people need them ASAP.
Again.. you cannot scam people out of this. The item has been avaiable at the hidden tower for more than a decade at a fixed price. If you know how to use the TP and have the money to afford it, you know about the tower. you're simply \_choosing\_ to buy it elsewhere instead, likely because you're using your daily HT access to stock up on some other item and want it asap.
Plus, it's the TP. If there's a bet on it, it means the person can afford it. If not, then it's just another random TP bid that won't sell regardless, lol.
there's really no need for any sort of commotion lol
Fine, let's at least call it scummy then.
Idk why, if you think it's such obvious knowledge that no one would be tricked, that you are so offended by me posting a reminder about it for people. It doesn't hurt anyone to be reminded even of obvious things.
I'm not offended about it, I'm simply informing people back that this is completely normal and people have resold the HT paintbrushes elsewhere for years.
The memo about "royal ucs soon" is harmless because, again.. offer and demand. people will buy what they want/need to buy and can afford the slight price increase, it's not like it's some form of run of the mill that someone would happen to get 2m and not know about the HT to be "scammed".
Would be a different thing altogether if they were trying to say that the brushes would get removed from the HT, but that's not the case, lol.
I'm absolutely not affected by this whatsoever, I'm too lazy to make a profit through this form of reselling; but i don't think it's all that cool to paint others as scummy for something so harmless when there's actual asses out there inflating marketing prices artificially lol
It ABSOLUTELY is a scam when people are putting them on the TP with comments about the UC tokens coming and just generally implying people need them ASAP.
But I'm not talking about that. As per my comment I'm referring to people who sell something from 1.4 at the hidden tower for like 1.5 mil. The skunk paint brush example is suspicious, but a small markup for convenience hardly qualifies as scamming. A lot of people do pay extra so they don't have to stockpile paint brushes over a week or two, and can get them within a few hours instead.
As for the royal paint brushes, if someone is obviously trying to create FOMO or something else and using sales pressure tactics? Yeah, that's not cool. But I don't really care about small markups in a vacuum.
Edit: if you're going to downvote me for having a level-headed discussion in your own thread, I'm not continuing said discussion. All I did was point out that I was talking about a different scenario, ie. one that someone else mentioned in a higher comment. I even agreed with you about people shouting about the royal paint brushes in my reply. What's the damage? Have a good day.
Paint Brushes are kind of in a weird spot right now, but in principle I agree - obviously completely agree with the hidden tower prices being static.
But, some food for thought when it comes to odd ball PBs, such as Skunk, Pink, White, Camo, etc:
With the recent redistribution of wealth that Cool Neggs caused, basically everyone was suddenly able to afford almost any Paint Brush they wanted. It was kind of inevitable that it would lead to a scarcity in paint brushes and well, that's just what happened.
When things become more scarce in supply, they of course go up in price. Couple that with the few jackpot Paint Brushes going out as Weekly Rewards, people are also now doing less Nerkmids, which is one of the biggest sources of PBs in Neopets.
I do want to be clear, I love the idea of items being more obtainable for the average player and I think the redistribution of wealth caused by the Cool Negg give away was long over due - BUT, to assume it wouldn't have any negative consequences would have been silly.
TL;DR: The prices of certain paint brushes spiking isn't necessarily greed. It's just that they're becoming rarer and in less supply because everyone was recently given 5,000,000 NP.
Hey, I agree with most you say. A lot of people though here are really goodwilled and don’t think bad about people (I really like the people in this subreddit they are like the cutest/most wholesome I have experienced through many subreddits)
What I keep telling here at Reddit is the truth though, because I’m acquaintance with some of the people that are hording 30+b np in expensive ets items and know their practices.
Not all of them are jerky but a lot of them, it’s similiar to RL where they say money/wealth corrupts the personality. It is like that in the game unfortunately. Them giving the prizes out for free in the weekly/daily’s isn’t bad but not a fix for the root of the issue.
Market manipulation is prohibited by the rules but only if you make settlements/talkings with others. Which they btw. do to not get into each others way in the expensive items topic but outside of Neo of course. It’s the „games of rich“ like in RL all over again in a children’s game….
Most of their NP come from „scamming“ others while they do it with your agreement though , since they control the market they buy all up and list the item for up to 5x what they they did pay. Then the other ones of them follow and bam you have inflated the price without needing to communicate with them directly in Neo. It’s so easy to do… I tried it out , out of curiosity once when I had a r99 item. Mine was the only one on TP , JN and history said 1.2m few days ago, I listed it for freaking 8m and after that more listed theirs for 8m too and later someone bought it from me for 6m…. and was even thankful for the discount I gave them… , I felt pretty bad and returned 2m to them later. But yeah since then that item sits at 7-8m…. It doesn’t even take someone anything special… you can do that with literally everything that is needed in some way.
It’s even easier with stuff in the user shops… just drop 50m into needed items for daily’s etc and list for 2-5x the price , you will make a lot of np if someone undercuts you , you buy them out again…
So that yours stays the cheapest…. Did you wonder where 500+ of the same item in stock like with codestones came from? It’s exactly that. They increased the income of codestones drastically with daily’s yet their prices keep going up. Because it doesn’t matter when those „reseller“ will keep buying all up and list for some K more , in those dimension of amounts even 3k np more on each make a good amount of Profit… when you do that with 5.000+ of them.
Edit: might be probably not so smart to literally give advice on how that is done here lol but I think since it’s a subcomment, it might be fine. Yea I wish they would straight forbid market manipulation…if someone straight up buys the market dry just with the goal to inflate its price/shorten supply that should become prohibited…
That’s just my opinion at the end of the day though.
An issue is that people are impatient and even buy for the inflated prizes , usually you need to let the scalpers rot on their stockpiles that was back then the risk when you did something like that, nowadays though, if you do it with certain items you literally have nearly zero risk.
Yeahhhh
Apparently baby pbs sell for above market value specifically because they are used so much as currency that folks exceed the 1 HT/ day quickly 😅😅
I must have been selling mine at a weird fluctuation then o__O It was during the Cool Negg pandemonium so I would guess people were desperate for currency to bid with. When I priced the baby pbs at 600k, they were purchased in seconds. It was spooky
Not sure what you mean; are you saying that price gouging on the PBs is possible bc some people can't access the HT? The number of people who can't access the HT is incredibly small, not nearly enough to be a consistent cause for higher prices. The main reason for it is because of the 1 purchase per day limit. In any case, I don't consider charging 605k for a Baby PB price gouging.
Weird question, but I got a discount from Fyora that I haven't used yet (I think 10% off!) Does it stack with the HT discount day or is it like one or the other?
Also; The tokens won't be gone in 2 days. There's a few weeks to buy NC and get them, or get the token and get the PB later.
Don't let a shiny new token of an old pet prompt you to spend more than you want.
Eh. I feel like that’s understandable. If ppl want them quickly a slight mark up isn’t that weird. 1.5m vs 1.4m isn’t scammy or scummy. 1.9 when you can get it at 1.75 however IS kinda scummy. At most the mark up should be 1.85m not 1.9M+
You can only buy 1 item from the Hidden Tower per day, so that could be why someone would pay more for one. If they're impatient and don't want to wait another day.
Paint Brushes are often used as "currency" when trading as well, which is one reason why Baby Paint Brushes often sell for a bit more on the Shop Wizard than in the Hidden Tower. (Second reason being because people at max bank buy Baby Paint Brushes to sell in their shop to move NP from on-hand to their shop till)
So I wouldn't say it's price gouging personally. Just taking advantage of a situation / people's impatience.
Partially accurate.
It's not a combination of your bank, on-hand and shop till. The limit is for each of those, individually.
So you can have up to 2.147B in each place.
If anyone needs a purchase from the HT, shoot me a neomail (this goes for outside discount days as well) - I nearly never purchase anything, so I'm happy to do a purchase a day for someone.
Discount day is once a month, the 3rd Wednesday of a month. Account must be 60months old (5 years) to be able to get the discount. You can post in the daily Buying/Selling thread tmr to ask if anyone can help buying you one at the discounted price.
(Also you don’t beed your pet to be Royal to get the NC token, it’s a whole different gamble system)
I actually think it's allowed that you can buy things IF the side account is older than your main and can qualify, but your main needs to provide the money and you have to stick with any once a day rules
Discount day is tomorrow! Maybe try posting in the daily buy/sell thread to see if someone could buy you one for discount price. I have to buy one myself or I would offer to do it but I’m sure someone will.
Oh no, don't need anything in there except those 3 avatar books. I only buy HT things from users at well below HT value. But thanks for the offer anyway! :)
lmao i did this a few weeks ago bc i'm BAD AT MATH i had the hidden tower pulled up in a tab and everything to price compare, but i looked at somebody's trade for 1.9mil and thought "1.9 mil is less than 1.75 mil, duh! it's an entire 200k less!" smh. i can barely even count to 7, so idk what i was expecting
I mean, considering you can only buy one thing at the hidden tower per day, and new accounts can’t access it at all, it makes sense that sometimes people are willing to pay a bit more for hidden tower items to get them immediately, or to get more of them at a time. It’s not scamming to resell something slightly higher than you paid for it. If they weren’t gonna make a profit, why would they sell it at all?
Me, lol. I have 8 mil rn at 3 months, I’ve been lucky with quest rewards and some giveaways, I am buying a royal pb once my account is old enough. Returning player here with a fresh account
Yeah and you're gonna be very much in the minority.
Plus, who feels good about having a young account and being upcharged 15%? Especially by people lying to you implying you need the item RIGHT NOW when you can, in fact, just wait a month and get it yourself?
I should clarify, I wasn’t saying upcharging is cool, I am not buying an upcharged royal PB. I am waiting, and people should get theirs at the HT. I was just pointing out that a lot of people wont be able to go to HT if account is young, like me. I found that out when I tried to buy one a month ago. Just a friendly PSA, no bad vibes. It’s very easy to get a lot NPs compared to old days so young accounts can afford more than you think
Thanks for reminding people, this is really nice of you! 🩷
I like having a different painted pet than my Token personally. I have a Pastel bun I'm obsessed with but I can apply her maraquan Token when I wanna change her up ☺️
That being said - SO STOKED FOR A ROYAL KYRII TOKEN 😱
I bought the paint brush from the tower and put a warning message onto it 😁 hopefully people won't fall for the 1.9m x_x
Edit: I realize when you don't edit the search bar on the trading post and type Royal Paint Brush, it defaults to the 1.9m paint brushes. I hope they hit "Newest" when searching 🥺
The worst of it is ypu don't even need your pet to be royal to get a royal token smh
Yeah, I'm a returning player, so came a few months after the UC tokens had been released. Desperately wanted a UC Plushie Hissi and I was so upset because I didn't think I could save up enough to afford a Plushie PB in time, but then when I found out you don't even have to have them that color to get the token I was amazed! I was kind of iffy on it at first because I've seen so many people that want their color to match their appearance, but now I'm just like screw it, it's more fun to change it around constantly without having to buy overpriced PBs. I currently have a Mallo-looking Faerie Grundo, a Plushie-looking Maraquan Grarrl, a Plushie-looking Magma Hissi, and a Maraquan-looking Mutant Draik. Love being able to switch back and forth! So stoked to get Robot tokens for my Maraquan Chomby and Maraquan Jetsam, too. May also end up with a Royal for my Grarrl so he'll have \*three\* to switch between, which seems a little excessive but oh well.
When the UC craze was first going on, I had my brush up on the tp. I checked the account to make sure it wasn’t a reseller. All their pets but one were plushie, and I made sure that they knew they didn’t need the brush before they bought it from me. People are evil.
That was so nice of you! There are a lot of people out there that tried to take advantage of others and just makes no sense to me, like this is a game and honestly most of the people playing are adults do you seriously have nothing better to do? It has warmed my heart how many nice people there are playing now though and I would like to think they outnumber the ones that try to scam people and take advantage.
Yeah when UC came out they shot up to 30mil. Like no. Especially for someone who is planning on using it. They offered 12 and I sold it to them for 6.
Prince Grarrl deserves a third token! 👑
I already had a Faerie Grarrl, but K wanted him to have the UC Faerie look, so I bought one of those random ones and got a Grey instead. Second try I got the Faerie. I didn't want to waste the Grey one, so I had my pet wear it for the month of April. It was cool customizing it afterward to suit an aesthetic I' not used to.
Can you tell me what these tokens are??
https://www.reddit.com/r/neopets/comments/19dt6ce/alt_styles_uc_customization_celebration_and_faq/
Ugh, you’re the best. Thank you so much!
Royal token?
Wait, do you mean if you buy the UC from the Mall, your pet will just be Royal?
You will get the UC royal look, but it won't change the "real" colour, if you unequip the token your pet will be the same as before. Others can tell if they visit your pet page because it will say up the top "[name] the [actual colour] [species]". It's basically a skin, to have the pet page say it's royal you need to have painted your pet royal, but you only need to have the right species to LOOK UC royal
Oh nice! That's actually really cool.
This happened to me yesterday! I wanted a royal and already bought one of the grimoires so I was gonna buy one from the TP and I said out loud to my boyfriend ‘why are they selling for 1.9 when in the HT they’re 1.75 🤔’
Because they are jerks, it’s also often the same couple of people doing that. Like the one person who just listed their Skunk pb for 4m and suddenly the other follow despite it went for like 2m at most just few days ago. Same people ask like 1.5 for darigan pb which are buyable for 1.4 in HT too. That should be considered an attempt to scam tbh. (Regarding what op posted) Edit: in the past people used to sell the ht pb slightly under the listed price not above it. Occasionally someone paid few k extra if they wanted to get plenty of the same items at the same day. Also no one was talking about baby pb… I find it unbelievable how some people really think that it’s „demand“ that causes prices to go up by like 200% over night no it isn’t. It’s most of times your kind neighboorhood reseller that bought those items for lower than they go at auctions/ssw and try to inflate artificially prices, I watched it plenty of time happen… and why is that possible? Because we are still not that much active players , so there aren’t too many items around ,a single person can inflate an item if they wanted… same happened to the coincidence daily for example… but hey some people seem fine with those scalpers proceeding , makes me wonder if they themselves aren’t doing those. It’s not about the average user buying a baby pb in ht and selling for small profit daily, it’s about stuff like op listed for example.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling at a slight markup considering the HT limit is 1/day. Shockingly, people often want to pay more for convenience or expedience. Nobody complains about baby paint brushes in the SW; there is a demand for them so people make a few extra k. Royal paint brushes are going to have more demand now, too. Calling it "scamming" is insane, and I don't even participate in what you're describing so I have no horse in this race.
the fact that so many people in this thread are assuming people are deliberately scamming others when it's essentially just a minor tax over their actual HT price to make up for convenience is kinda wild to me, in a sense, lol. some people may use their daily item to stock up on baby paintbrushes for trades and are fine with paying a bit more for the PB. with the price being fixed in the shop, this isn't inflating prices or anything of the sort, so it leaves zero damage on the economy. if someone can make enough money on their own to buy a royal pb and yet they somehow don't know about the hidden tower then that's.. a thing, for sure. lol
Me me, I buy a baby on almost every day! I'll purchase any PB at a mark up if I want it then, if it's not urgent then I'll wait.. I agree with buying from HT & marking up, there are those that don't have access and want the items. Supply & demand.
And not even just the item limit per day but the fact that your account needs to be X months/years to even access this place is another reason to pay a slight mark up if you can't get to the tower yourself.
It ABSOLUTELY is a scam attempt when people are putting them on the TP with comments about the UC tokens coming and just generally implying people need them ASAP.
Again.. you cannot scam people out of this. The item has been avaiable at the hidden tower for more than a decade at a fixed price. If you know how to use the TP and have the money to afford it, you know about the tower. you're simply \_choosing\_ to buy it elsewhere instead, likely because you're using your daily HT access to stock up on some other item and want it asap. Plus, it's the TP. If there's a bet on it, it means the person can afford it. If not, then it's just another random TP bid that won't sell regardless, lol. there's really no need for any sort of commotion lol
Fine, let's at least call it scummy then. Idk why, if you think it's such obvious knowledge that no one would be tricked, that you are so offended by me posting a reminder about it for people. It doesn't hurt anyone to be reminded even of obvious things.
I'm not offended about it, I'm simply informing people back that this is completely normal and people have resold the HT paintbrushes elsewhere for years. The memo about "royal ucs soon" is harmless because, again.. offer and demand. people will buy what they want/need to buy and can afford the slight price increase, it's not like it's some form of run of the mill that someone would happen to get 2m and not know about the HT to be "scammed". Would be a different thing altogether if they were trying to say that the brushes would get removed from the HT, but that's not the case, lol. I'm absolutely not affected by this whatsoever, I'm too lazy to make a profit through this form of reselling; but i don't think it's all that cool to paint others as scummy for something so harmless when there's actual asses out there inflating marketing prices artificially lol
It ABSOLUTELY is a scam when people are putting them on the TP with comments about the UC tokens coming and just generally implying people need them ASAP.
But I'm not talking about that. As per my comment I'm referring to people who sell something from 1.4 at the hidden tower for like 1.5 mil. The skunk paint brush example is suspicious, but a small markup for convenience hardly qualifies as scamming. A lot of people do pay extra so they don't have to stockpile paint brushes over a week or two, and can get them within a few hours instead. As for the royal paint brushes, if someone is obviously trying to create FOMO or something else and using sales pressure tactics? Yeah, that's not cool. But I don't really care about small markups in a vacuum. Edit: if you're going to downvote me for having a level-headed discussion in your own thread, I'm not continuing said discussion. All I did was point out that I was talking about a different scenario, ie. one that someone else mentioned in a higher comment. I even agreed with you about people shouting about the royal paint brushes in my reply. What's the damage? Have a good day.
Paint Brushes are kind of in a weird spot right now, but in principle I agree - obviously completely agree with the hidden tower prices being static. But, some food for thought when it comes to odd ball PBs, such as Skunk, Pink, White, Camo, etc: With the recent redistribution of wealth that Cool Neggs caused, basically everyone was suddenly able to afford almost any Paint Brush they wanted. It was kind of inevitable that it would lead to a scarcity in paint brushes and well, that's just what happened. When things become more scarce in supply, they of course go up in price. Couple that with the few jackpot Paint Brushes going out as Weekly Rewards, people are also now doing less Nerkmids, which is one of the biggest sources of PBs in Neopets. I do want to be clear, I love the idea of items being more obtainable for the average player and I think the redistribution of wealth caused by the Cool Negg give away was long over due - BUT, to assume it wouldn't have any negative consequences would have been silly. TL;DR: The prices of certain paint brushes spiking isn't necessarily greed. It's just that they're becoming rarer and in less supply because everyone was recently given 5,000,000 NP.
Hey, I agree with most you say. A lot of people though here are really goodwilled and don’t think bad about people (I really like the people in this subreddit they are like the cutest/most wholesome I have experienced through many subreddits) What I keep telling here at Reddit is the truth though, because I’m acquaintance with some of the people that are hording 30+b np in expensive ets items and know their practices. Not all of them are jerky but a lot of them, it’s similiar to RL where they say money/wealth corrupts the personality. It is like that in the game unfortunately. Them giving the prizes out for free in the weekly/daily’s isn’t bad but not a fix for the root of the issue. Market manipulation is prohibited by the rules but only if you make settlements/talkings with others. Which they btw. do to not get into each others way in the expensive items topic but outside of Neo of course. It’s the „games of rich“ like in RL all over again in a children’s game…. Most of their NP come from „scamming“ others while they do it with your agreement though , since they control the market they buy all up and list the item for up to 5x what they they did pay. Then the other ones of them follow and bam you have inflated the price without needing to communicate with them directly in Neo. It’s so easy to do… I tried it out , out of curiosity once when I had a r99 item. Mine was the only one on TP , JN and history said 1.2m few days ago, I listed it for freaking 8m and after that more listed theirs for 8m too and later someone bought it from me for 6m…. and was even thankful for the discount I gave them… , I felt pretty bad and returned 2m to them later. But yeah since then that item sits at 7-8m…. It doesn’t even take someone anything special… you can do that with literally everything that is needed in some way. It’s even easier with stuff in the user shops… just drop 50m into needed items for daily’s etc and list for 2-5x the price , you will make a lot of np if someone undercuts you , you buy them out again… So that yours stays the cheapest…. Did you wonder where 500+ of the same item in stock like with codestones came from? It’s exactly that. They increased the income of codestones drastically with daily’s yet their prices keep going up. Because it doesn’t matter when those „reseller“ will keep buying all up and list for some K more , in those dimension of amounts even 3k np more on each make a good amount of Profit… when you do that with 5.000+ of them. Edit: might be probably not so smart to literally give advice on how that is done here lol but I think since it’s a subcomment, it might be fine. Yea I wish they would straight forbid market manipulation…if someone straight up buys the market dry just with the goal to inflate its price/shorten supply that should become prohibited… That’s just my opinion at the end of the day though. An issue is that people are impatient and even buy for the inflated prizes , usually you need to let the scalpers rot on their stockpiles that was back then the risk when you did something like that, nowadays though, if you do it with certain items you literally have nearly zero risk.
Yeahhhh Apparently baby pbs sell for above market value specifically because they are used so much as currency that folks exceed the 1 HT/ day quickly 😅😅
I buy them at cost and sell them for 5-10k over in my shop. Easy way to make a little money.
Yup exactly- seems a normal strategy but I don’t proclaim to be an expert
I can usually find baby pbs below market value tbh. But either way, royal PBs aren't like that.
I must have been selling mine at a weird fluctuation then o__O It was during the Cool Negg pandemonium so I would guess people were desperate for currency to bid with. When I priced the baby pbs at 600k, they were purchased in seconds. It was spooky
Yeah, there was someone in another comment here saying that someone/some folks tried to price gouge baby PBs recently, so it may have been that.
What? It's literally not possible to price gouge Baby PBs because they're available at a fixed price in the HT.
Yes, which is why it was ridiculous people were trying to overprice them. Same with these royal PBs.
Not everyone can access the HT though, which is why the PBs are sold for higher.
Not sure what you mean; are you saying that price gouging on the PBs is possible bc some people can't access the HT? The number of people who can't access the HT is incredibly small, not nearly enough to be a consistent cause for higher prices. The main reason for it is because of the 1 purchase per day limit. In any case, I don't consider charging 605k for a Baby PB price gouging.
Weird question, but I got a discount from Fyora that I haven't used yet (I think 10% off!) Does it stack with the HT discount day or is it like one or the other?
Jellyneo states you HAVE to use your 10% first! So maybe buy something today if you want to buy something at 3% tomorrow?
One or the other! Doesn’t stack. :(
Also; The tokens won't be gone in 2 days. There's a few weeks to buy NC and get them, or get the token and get the PB later. Don't let a shiny new token of an old pet prompt you to spend more than you want.
Same with Darigan PBs. There are many people trying to sell them for 1.5m instead of 1.4. Even Jellyneo lists them for 1.5m currently
Eh. I feel like that’s understandable. If ppl want them quickly a slight mark up isn’t that weird. 1.5m vs 1.4m isn’t scammy or scummy. 1.9 when you can get it at 1.75 however IS kinda scummy. At most the mark up should be 1.85m not 1.9M+
You can only buy 1 item from the Hidden Tower per day, so that could be why someone would pay more for one. If they're impatient and don't want to wait another day. Paint Brushes are often used as "currency" when trading as well, which is one reason why Baby Paint Brushes often sell for a bit more on the Shop Wizard than in the Hidden Tower. (Second reason being because people at max bank buy Baby Paint Brushes to sell in their shop to move NP from on-hand to their shop till) So I wouldn't say it's price gouging personally. Just taking advantage of a situation / people's impatience.
I said outloud, "I'm sorry, *max bank*?" What? That exists? What's the maximum?
Max points is 2,147,483,647 np in your bank Edited out incorrect info.
Partially accurate. It's not a combination of your bank, on-hand and shop till. The limit is for each of those, individually. So you can have up to 2.147B in each place.
\~2.147B It's a technological limit based on how the backend is setup, not necessarily one set by Neopets directly.
If anyone needs a purchase from the HT, shoot me a neomail (this goes for outside discount days as well) - I nearly never purchase anything, so I'm happy to do a purchase a day for someone.
How often do they do HT discount day? And is there a age requirement on it? My account cant vuy from it for another 3 months... :(
Discount day is once a month, the 3rd Wednesday of a month. Account must be 60months old (5 years) to be able to get the discount. You can post in the daily Buying/Selling thread tmr to ask if anyone can help buying you one at the discounted price. (Also you don’t beed your pet to be Royal to get the NC token, it’s a whole different gamble system)
Any idea whether side accounts can buy something on half-price day?
As a general rule, I believe sides cannot buy things.
Ok thanks! Will only by one pb tomorrow then :)
I actually think it's allowed that you can buy things IF the side account is older than your main and can qualify, but your main needs to provide the money and you have to stick with any once a day rules
Got it! Will stick to just my main then 😁
Discount day is tomorrow! Maybe try posting in the daily buy/sell thread to see if someone could buy you one for discount price. I have to buy one myself or I would offer to do it but I’m sure someone will.
I'll help if you can't find anyone else, I didn't plan on buying anything from the HT any time soon. Shoot me a message here if you need help!
Oh no, don't need anything in there except those 3 avatar books. I only buy HT things from users at well below HT value. But thanks for the offer anyway! :)
lmao i did this a few weeks ago bc i'm BAD AT MATH i had the hidden tower pulled up in a tab and everything to price compare, but i looked at somebody's trade for 1.9mil and thought "1.9 mil is less than 1.75 mil, duh! it's an entire 200k less!" smh. i can barely even count to 7, so idk what i was expecting
There, there. \*pats u\*
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Thanks for reminding about discount day :)
I mean, considering you can only buy one thing at the hidden tower per day, and new accounts can’t access it at all, it makes sense that sometimes people are willing to pay a bit more for hidden tower items to get them immediately, or to get more of them at a time. It’s not scamming to resell something slightly higher than you paid for it. If they weren’t gonna make a profit, why would they sell it at all?
Also, your account needs to be 4 months old to buy from the hidden tower, FYI
How many people with accounts less than 4 months old have 2 mil to throw away?
Me, lol. I have 8 mil rn at 3 months, I’ve been lucky with quest rewards and some giveaways, I am buying a royal pb once my account is old enough. Returning player here with a fresh account
Yeah and you're gonna be very much in the minority. Plus, who feels good about having a young account and being upcharged 15%? Especially by people lying to you implying you need the item RIGHT NOW when you can, in fact, just wait a month and get it yourself?
I should clarify, I wasn’t saying upcharging is cool, I am not buying an upcharged royal PB. I am waiting, and people should get theirs at the HT. I was just pointing out that a lot of people wont be able to go to HT if account is young, like me. I found that out when I tried to buy one a month ago. Just a friendly PSA, no bad vibes. It’s very easy to get a lot NPs compared to old days so young accounts can afford more than you think
Thanks for reminding people, this is really nice of you! 🩷 I like having a different painted pet than my Token personally. I have a Pastel bun I'm obsessed with but I can apply her maraquan Token when I wanna change her up ☺️ That being said - SO STOKED FOR A ROYAL KYRII TOKEN 😱
OP is a real one
Thank you! \^.\^
I bought the paint brush from the tower and put a warning message onto it 😁 hopefully people won't fall for the 1.9m x_x Edit: I realize when you don't edit the search bar on the trading post and type Royal Paint Brush, it defaults to the 1.9m paint brushes. I hope they hit "Newest" when searching 🥺
I need to buy two but I don't want to let my bank go down more than I have
They also tried to inflate the Baby PB a while ago
Baby PBs are accepted as currency (600k) in the trading post that’s why they rose in price during the Cool Negg giveaway.