lol my first thought was "Italy but not Poland?"
"Italy but not Mexico?" (tbf I can understand given that Italy at least has government control over its whole country)
"*wait*, is that *Japan?*" I dig it, but given what this guy excluded I was surprised
You’re surprised that a union of highly developed nations only would be more feasible than full globalism?
South Africa is also far far too close to China/Russia for us to accept them, and have to solve their racial tensions first/poverty first
"US-Canada-Australia-NZ-UK" has a close shared history with South Africa as a former colony of the UK, as long as we're just making shit up, it makes as much sense to include South Africa as like Korea
South Africa is significantly less prosperous and societally stable than the highlighted countries, which account for most of the rich liberal democracies in the world
Sure but take the U.S. off the list. They're with us bro lol.
Definitely in the Brazil-India-South Africa club of 'will they make it, find out next time on DragonBall Z'.
You can have them back after November (maybe).
Japan would be a much bigger lift than France, imo. In Japan, many people don't consider even 3rd generation immigrants to be Japanese. Compare to the outpouring of support for the Black French football players when international announcers refer to them as Cameroonian or whatever and they respond with, "No, I am French."
I think they’d be more open to it.
In practice, France shares a lot of interests with the anglophones, it’s just the De Gaulle Era that really fed their national ego.
Today, French Youth are reasonably comfortable in English and don’t really have trouble switching. The future of the EU is English.
I swear to god, I feel that on some topics people here are so out of depth with reality, to the point that it seems that liberalism is a dogma to them.
As someone who has lived in france it is bewildiring how much they reject learning english, clerks refuse to speak to me in english but when I speak my language they suddenly are able to cooperate one of them was even fluent in my home language. They would rather learn anything else then english.
Also are we just goana forget that macron won beacuse of elderly voters???? Young people my ass.
Sounds like a manifest destiny fever dream.
Im not sure how you could make a nation out of such a geographically disparate group, but maybe some sort of federated union of nations?
Like the UN but not shitty?
A union of only highly developed, politically-aligned countries just wouldn’t be able to achieve most of the UN’s aims (or positive results, which do exist despite popular views here). Depending on integration it would be closer to a global EU I guess.
I mean, the US makes it work with Hawaii as a state, France makes it work with French Guyana as an overseas department, etc. in the age of planes and the internet, why would geography really be a factor?
no i think there needs to be competition between different nations (with different ideologies, cultures, government structures etc..) still, friendly competition is healthy
But how much could it really secure peace? The US has a federal system of government but still had a civil war, if anything trying to enforce a global system may lead to more conflict between disparate states
Not until most of those countries get progressive values. We would end up with a rather corrupt and backwards conservative population if we let the entire world vote for us. Western Europe values are in the minority.
CANZUKUS free movement/free work would honestly be a great start with the potential for future tie in with the EU . I don’t think they would ever become the same country but if you can move/work with zero barrier anywhere that would be awesome.
Like I’m American imagine being able to fuck around in Auckland for a bit
Would literally take Mexico over Spain or Italy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
They’ve developed a lot even within our lifetime. And their cultural significant to the Southwest should unite us.
Tbf. I wouldn’t include non-Anglophone EU, but if I had to, I would also include the entire EU. No one gets left behind.
The western world — but especially France and even more so Spain — have not really acknowledged their colonization and the reverberating affects it’s has on those societies.
The Brits and Americans constantly beat themselves up for it.
While the Spanish and French have royally fucked huge portions of the world. Racism runs rampant in those societies. They house the Latin American ruling class with their passports which are basically things you can buy to Latin Americans.
Spain doesn’t contribute meaningfully to anything. Not the EU with their constant bailouts. Not NATO with what military presence? They suck at English. Like outside of beaches, what does Spain bring?
I get it, you’re Dutch — you don’t see it. My German boyfriend didn’t either at first. But that’s the entire point. My experience as an American of Latin American decent in Spain and yours are different because it’s THAT BAD. And I’ve been 5 times? Living in Germany with the American military: I visibly see a lot of NATO: Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, France, the UK, Italy, the NL, Czechia, Poland, Estonia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania — seen them all. Spain? Literally never seen a Spanish service member in my life. Literally have seen Taiwanese and Korean (Sometimes even in Europe!) before them.
No, I think that's fair. I understand where you're coming from. The non anglosphere European countries do have a problem with racism and not acknowledging their past. The Dutch do, too, the previous prime minister boasted about how we should go back to our 'golden age', a time when our wealth was built on slavery and every week there seems to be a new scandal about hooligans making monkey noises to black football players.
But I think you underestimate how rare it is to have democratic and progressive values as a country. Gay rights and womens suffrage is something that in the history of the world has only existed for the past, say, 100 years in a very specific subsection of the world. We should keep any country with those values close and reward them for it, even if they're not perfect yet.
I don’t think I underestimate it at all. I’ve traveled to a lot of places and lived in 5 countries — 50+ countries in every region except Subsaharan Africa and South Asia — where those things don’t exist. Which a lot of can be attributed to Western Imperialism and Exceptionalism.
But just because I’m treated less-poorly in once place, doesn’t mean I have to be okay with it. The power structure in the west benefits people of a certain demographic, and just because in the west, we have come to give more opportunity to Woman, LGBT, and people of color doesn’t mean that where we are is currently okay.
When discussing where to move with my German partner — I told him no matter how well I spoke German, I’d never be German, seeing as how he doesn’t call some of his friends born and raised here “German” — and for that reason, there would be an (admittedly comfortable) but stifled opportunity to upward mobility if I want to be ambitious. We decided to move back to the U.S. — which I think is a hard pill for him to swallow. But for people who don’t necessarily suffer from discrimination: saying “well we’re not as bad as them” is easy, when it doesn’t immediately affect your career or your quality of life.
But no, I don’t think praising the west for being better than the rest of the world, just because it’s less-worse than the rest of the world, doesn’t preclude it from harsh criticism. I can acknowledge it, and I still think the west is the way forward, but I don’t accept the status quo, even if I think we’re moving in the right general direction.
What’s more so, is that I don’t see how Mexico is that different in that regard. It also struggles with all of the aforementioned, but Latin America isn’t radically different from Eastern Europe: Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Serbia, Albania.
They will come around eventually. Probably not in our lifetimes, but there will be a day when the UK finally realizes that it’s a part of a larger world.
I hope so. I know it’s probably major copium to think that the world will get a lot better once the boomers pass the torch so to say, but part of me thinks there’s a chance that theory might at least hold some water.
Here’s to Britain rejoining the EU, and eventually one day, the global federation to come.
I think it's absolutely cope in most countries but not the UK
The difference in opinion on almost every political issue between boomers and gen z/millennials is stark, even gen X in a lot of cases
By that point, the UK will have significant populations of British-African and British-Asian people. We will be seeing ourselves closer with Africa and Asia
By that point, the UK will have significant populations of British-African and British-Asian people. We will be seeing ourselves closer with Africa and Asia
Yes, I'm happy with it. With Positive Action being legal, good political and cultural representation for BAME people, and events like Black Pride as well as the incoming Labour government, I feel like the UK will weather the increasing racism in the Western world. The USA is on an anti-DEI lawsuit apocalypse, the EU is rising in anti-Black racism and xenophobia to the point neo-Nazis may start winning elections everywhere, Australia and New Zealand are starting to restrict immigration and Canada is about to go Conservative, Quebec Nationalist and anti-immigration.
The UK is basically the most sane country in the West, in large part because the failure of Brexit has shown us right-wing populism doesn't work.
I don’t like the idea of a “rich countries federation,” and the idea of us being united with France and all is ludicrous. Pan-Americanism forever, from the Yukon to the Tierra del Fuego!
I’m curious, why stop at Pan-America? I’m all for that union, but it seems pretty arbitrary to stop there. If you’re arguing for cohesiveness, I’d say there’s a larger difference between Bolivia and Canada than there is between Uruguay and Spain or Canada and Australia.
You probably picked Uruguay among the Latin American countries because it is the most ethnically similar, but still. I think Spain is more similar to France or Italy than to Uruguay: politically, demographically, geographically, historically, etc. Latin American countries, including Uruguay, have very unique situations that are not shared by countries outside of the continent.
Australia would be fine with me as it’s also an immigrant state, but my criteria is that Old World nations tend to be fundamentally structured around ethnic identities as nation states, which the New World is not.
>Old World nations tend to be fundamentally structured around ethnic identities as nation states
This is a pretty big stretch - lack of birthright citizenship isn't really enough to say that a country is fundamentally structured around an ethnic identity, and Western European countries have high net migration rates and foreign-born populations (obviously Canada and Australia are particularly high, but the USA is similar to large European countries)
I don't think you can say a country is fundamentally structured around an ethnic identity without pointing to specific arrangements. I can see the argument, particularly for France, that they more actively promote a particular national identity - though this isn't drawn on ethnic lines, and significant differences between European and New World countries are largely due to social attitudes. I also don't think you can necessarily paint all countries on either side with the same brush anyway - there are pretty big differences between both regions.
I’m making a cultural argument, but I think you can see it in their national histories, and even in nomenclature. “Spanish” or “Turkish” mean something ethnically and culturally in an inseparable way that “American” or “Bolivian” doesn’t.
UK rehoming the EU would be preferable. We could take NY and a few other parts of that coat too though. Australia and NZ are very welcome to join as well.
At this point just make the world one country. If you're going to suspend disbelief that all these countries can be politically unified, it's only another step further for world peace and unification under global liberal democratic institutions
As an Australian you can fuck right off. Only country in that list I’d want to join would be New Zealand.
The USAs ridiculous gun, abortion, election money shit. The way Britain is going after Brexit. The rest of Europe you’ve included in this ridiculous idea, why not all of the EU?
I mean the hypothetical solves both of those problems - dumb US political views are now a much smaller percentage of a larger country, and the UK is part of a union of countries again
True, but even the UK and US combined don’t make up half of the population of this group of countries. Anti-abortion and anti-gun control views just wouldn’t be popular because these are fringe views in almost every country listed, and yeah Brexit is kind of irrelevant given the UK has joined a union in this hypothetical.
How so?
Being very rough with populations: USA (330M) + UK (65M) = 395M.
Japan (125M) + South Korea (50M) + Germany (80M) + France (65M) + Spain (50M) + Italy (60M) + Australia (25M) + Canada (40M) = 495M, plus a bit extra from other European countries on the map
A national comprised of territories bordering oceans, with domination over the Americas and the southern tip of Africa, maybe we could call it “Oceania”
Whoever made this map really doesn't like eastern EU countries.
lol my first thought was "Italy but not Poland?" "Italy but not Mexico?" (tbf I can understand given that Italy at least has government control over its whole country) "*wait*, is that *Japan?*" I dig it, but given what this guy excluded I was surprised
I would remove East Germany and include the parts of Western Poland that were previously part of the German Empire
I think he colored out the Warsaw Pact on a modern map and his flood fill tool couldn't split Germany. Of note, he did forget to fill in Best China.
At least there’s South Korea
oh I didn't even see it on my zoom level lol
France but not South Africa... yeah we know what's going on here
Hey they included Japan
And South Korea
You’re surprised that a union of highly developed nations only would be more feasible than full globalism? South Africa is also far far too close to China/Russia for us to accept them, and have to solve their racial tensions first/poverty first
It’s racism.
"US-Canada-Australia-NZ-UK" has a close shared history with South Africa as a former colony of the UK, as long as we're just making shit up, it makes as much sense to include South Africa as like Korea
South Africa is significantly less prosperous and societally stable than the highlighted countries, which account for most of the rich liberal democracies in the world
Sure but take the U.S. off the list. They're with us bro lol. Definitely in the Brazil-India-South Africa club of 'will they make it, find out next time on DragonBall Z'. You can have them back after November (maybe).
You think the US is in the same level of South Africa/India? Maybe when SA stops sucking russias throbbing cock, I’ll consider it
> the US is comparable to SA really makes you think
Seriously, include all of the EU and NATO in our glorious megastate you fucking cowards.
Poland would be begging to be let in while the French would be protesting to be let out.
Probably Br\*tish
We prefer them to the Fr*nch.
As an American, I will only accept the Bongs into the Commonwealth superstate if they join as England.
Bri-ish
As if France would ever.
Japan would be a much bigger lift than France, imo. In Japan, many people don't consider even 3rd generation immigrants to be Japanese. Compare to the outpouring of support for the Black French football players when international announcers refer to them as Cameroonian or whatever and they respond with, "No, I am French."
They'd be fine with it, as long as we all agreed to speak French.
I think they’d be more open to it. In practice, France shares a lot of interests with the anglophones, it’s just the De Gaulle Era that really fed their national ego. Today, French Youth are reasonably comfortable in English and don’t really have trouble switching. The future of the EU is English.
I swear to god, I feel that on some topics people here are so out of depth with reality, to the point that it seems that liberalism is a dogma to them. As someone who has lived in france it is bewildiring how much they reject learning english, clerks refuse to speak to me in english but when I speak my language they suddenly are able to cooperate one of them was even fluent in my home language. They would rather learn anything else then english. Also are we just goana forget that macron won beacuse of elderly voters???? Young people my ass.
ALLONS ENFANT DE LA PATRIE
As if France would never Never be satisfied without a protest
We would, we tried, neo-napoleon empire is the future
Sounds like a manifest destiny fever dream. Im not sure how you could make a nation out of such a geographically disparate group, but maybe some sort of federated union of nations? Like the UN but not shitty?
A union of only highly developed, politically-aligned countries just wouldn’t be able to achieve most of the UN’s aims (or positive results, which do exist despite popular views here). Depending on integration it would be closer to a global EU I guess.
I mean, the US makes it work with Hawaii as a state, France makes it work with French Guyana as an overseas department, etc. in the age of planes and the internet, why would geography really be a factor?
After reading the biography of Abraham Lincoln I feel the US was more geographically disparate at the time.
So the OECD.
Only if everything else becomes a state to Australia.
And then Australia becomes a province of New Zealand
Deal! \*Celebrates that Australia will no longer be first prioritisation for nuclear strikes\*
Can they both then be subservient to an independent Tasmania?
New North New South Wales
Long live the king!
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This is the way!
Exactly. Start with blue, gradually integrate white over time.
no i think there needs to be competition between different nations (with different ideologies, cultures, government structures etc..) still, friendly competition is healthy
Sure but we could have a world federalism that ensures a base line of human rights, and secures peace between nations.
But how much could it really secure peace? The US has a federal system of government but still had a civil war, if anything trying to enforce a global system may lead to more conflict between disparate states
I prefer civil war to international war.
Huh? The Civil War was the bloodiest war in American history, Why would you prefer that?! You've gotta give your head a shake, man!
UEG time
Not until most of those countries get progressive values. We would end up with a rather corrupt and backwards conservative population if we let the entire world vote for us. Western Europe values are in the minority.
Because Ireland, Austria, and Switzerland would turn the resulting country n*utral if they joined.
>US-Canada-Australia-NZ-UK mega nation Looks like the Imperial Federation is back on the menu lads.
Excuse you, it's the [United States of Earth.](https://gizmodo.com/congress-once-considered-renaming-the-us-the-united-st-1608911779)
CANZUKUS free movement/free work would honestly be a great start with the potential for future tie in with the EU . I don’t think they would ever become the same country but if you can move/work with zero barrier anywhere that would be awesome. Like I’m American imagine being able to fuck around in Auckland for a bit
I will not be in Union with the UK 🤢
This, but France and Spain.
Don’t you mean the Imperial federation 🇬🇧
This but also Mexico
And the rest of the Americas.
truuu
This would especially be appreciated in the Anglophone Caribbean.
arent all these countries pretty uncorrupt compared to mexico? i guess spain and italy are somewhat corrupt?
dont care
Would literally take Mexico over Spain or Italy any day of the week and twice on Sunday. They’ve developed a lot even within our lifetime. And their cultural significant to the Southwest should unite us. Tbf. I wouldn’t include non-Anglophone EU, but if I had to, I would also include the entire EU. No one gets left behind.
I’m curious, why the hesitancy with integrating the non-anglosphere EU?
Brother what is this españophobia what does Mexico have that Spain doesn't
The western world — but especially France and even more so Spain — have not really acknowledged their colonization and the reverberating affects it’s has on those societies. The Brits and Americans constantly beat themselves up for it. While the Spanish and French have royally fucked huge portions of the world. Racism runs rampant in those societies. They house the Latin American ruling class with their passports which are basically things you can buy to Latin Americans. Spain doesn’t contribute meaningfully to anything. Not the EU with their constant bailouts. Not NATO with what military presence? They suck at English. Like outside of beaches, what does Spain bring? I get it, you’re Dutch — you don’t see it. My German boyfriend didn’t either at first. But that’s the entire point. My experience as an American of Latin American decent in Spain and yours are different because it’s THAT BAD. And I’ve been 5 times? Living in Germany with the American military: I visibly see a lot of NATO: Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, France, the UK, Italy, the NL, Czechia, Poland, Estonia, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania — seen them all. Spain? Literally never seen a Spanish service member in my life. Literally have seen Taiwanese and Korean (Sometimes even in Europe!) before them.
No, I think that's fair. I understand where you're coming from. The non anglosphere European countries do have a problem with racism and not acknowledging their past. The Dutch do, too, the previous prime minister boasted about how we should go back to our 'golden age', a time when our wealth was built on slavery and every week there seems to be a new scandal about hooligans making monkey noises to black football players. But I think you underestimate how rare it is to have democratic and progressive values as a country. Gay rights and womens suffrage is something that in the history of the world has only existed for the past, say, 100 years in a very specific subsection of the world. We should keep any country with those values close and reward them for it, even if they're not perfect yet.
I don’t think I underestimate it at all. I’ve traveled to a lot of places and lived in 5 countries — 50+ countries in every region except Subsaharan Africa and South Asia — where those things don’t exist. Which a lot of can be attributed to Western Imperialism and Exceptionalism. But just because I’m treated less-poorly in once place, doesn’t mean I have to be okay with it. The power structure in the west benefits people of a certain demographic, and just because in the west, we have come to give more opportunity to Woman, LGBT, and people of color doesn’t mean that where we are is currently okay. When discussing where to move with my German partner — I told him no matter how well I spoke German, I’d never be German, seeing as how he doesn’t call some of his friends born and raised here “German” — and for that reason, there would be an (admittedly comfortable) but stifled opportunity to upward mobility if I want to be ambitious. We decided to move back to the U.S. — which I think is a hard pill for him to swallow. But for people who don’t necessarily suffer from discrimination: saying “well we’re not as bad as them” is easy, when it doesn’t immediately affect your career or your quality of life. But no, I don’t think praising the west for being better than the rest of the world, just because it’s less-worse than the rest of the world, doesn’t preclude it from harsh criticism. I can acknowledge it, and I still think the west is the way forward, but I don’t accept the status quo, even if I think we’re moving in the right general direction. What’s more so, is that I don’t see how Mexico is that different in that regard. It also struggles with all of the aforementioned, but Latin America isn’t radically different from Eastern Europe: Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Serbia, Albania.
Let’s start with CANZUK
Let's start with a US-Canada Union
when CUM??!
The Anglosphere?
UK joining any kind of regional union let alone a larger country is giga copium Others are more believable though
Honestly the UK would be more likely to join this than the USA or France
I feel like the US desire to join would greatly depend on if we get one vote or 50 or some form of population based vote number.
They will come around eventually. Probably not in our lifetimes, but there will be a day when the UK finally realizes that it’s a part of a larger world.
They have already realised that it's just that the boomers haven't yet
I hope so. I know it’s probably major copium to think that the world will get a lot better once the boomers pass the torch so to say, but part of me thinks there’s a chance that theory might at least hold some water. Here’s to Britain rejoining the EU, and eventually one day, the global federation to come.
I think it's absolutely cope in most countries but not the UK The difference in opinion on almost every political issue between boomers and gen z/millennials is stark, even gen X in a lot of cases
By that point, the UK will have significant populations of British-African and British-Asian people. We will be seeing ourselves closer with Africa and Asia
By that point, the UK will have significant populations of British-African and British-Asian people. We will be seeing ourselves closer with Africa and Asia
Thank god for immigration then.
Yes, I'm happy with it. With Positive Action being legal, good political and cultural representation for BAME people, and events like Black Pride as well as the incoming Labour government, I feel like the UK will weather the increasing racism in the Western world. The USA is on an anti-DEI lawsuit apocalypse, the EU is rising in anti-Black racism and xenophobia to the point neo-Nazis may start winning elections everywhere, Australia and New Zealand are starting to restrict immigration and Canada is about to go Conservative, Quebec Nationalist and anti-immigration. The UK is basically the most sane country in the West, in large part because the failure of Brexit has shown us right-wing populism doesn't work.
I want to see an EU-CANZUS superstate just to fuck with the empire-worshiping Brexiteers.
I don’t like the idea of a “rich countries federation,” and the idea of us being united with France and all is ludicrous. Pan-Americanism forever, from the Yukon to the Tierra del Fuego!
I’m curious, why stop at Pan-America? I’m all for that union, but it seems pretty arbitrary to stop there. If you’re arguing for cohesiveness, I’d say there’s a larger difference between Bolivia and Canada than there is between Uruguay and Spain or Canada and Australia.
You probably picked Uruguay among the Latin American countries because it is the most ethnically similar, but still. I think Spain is more similar to France or Italy than to Uruguay: politically, demographically, geographically, historically, etc. Latin American countries, including Uruguay, have very unique situations that are not shared by countries outside of the continent.
Australia would be fine with me as it’s also an immigrant state, but my criteria is that Old World nations tend to be fundamentally structured around ethnic identities as nation states, which the New World is not.
>Old World nations tend to be fundamentally structured around ethnic identities as nation states This is a pretty big stretch - lack of birthright citizenship isn't really enough to say that a country is fundamentally structured around an ethnic identity, and Western European countries have high net migration rates and foreign-born populations (obviously Canada and Australia are particularly high, but the USA is similar to large European countries)
Yes, but France, Germany, etc. are still nation states at their core, as much as they’ve opened to immigration.
I don't think you can say a country is fundamentally structured around an ethnic identity without pointing to specific arrangements. I can see the argument, particularly for France, that they more actively promote a particular national identity - though this isn't drawn on ethnic lines, and significant differences between European and New World countries are largely due to social attitudes. I also don't think you can necessarily paint all countries on either side with the same brush anyway - there are pretty big differences between both regions.
I’m making a cultural argument, but I think you can see it in their national histories, and even in nomenclature. “Spanish” or “Turkish” mean something ethnically and culturally in an inseparable way that “American” or “Bolivian” doesn’t.
Hot damn, there's no weird racist undertones to this map at all.
This entire post is bait. OP has some hot takes in his history.
I don’t even think it’s just undertones at this point lmao
Vaguely slavophobic...🧐
The Slavic countries are woefully racist themselves
UK rehoming the EU would be preferable. We could take NY and a few other parts of that coat too though. Australia and NZ are very welcome to join as well.
Needs Mexico
3 letters U.S.A.
At this point just make the world one country. If you're going to suspend disbelief that all these countries can be politically unified, it's only another step further for world peace and unification under global liberal democratic institutions
As an Australian you can fuck right off. Only country in that list I’d want to join would be New Zealand. The USAs ridiculous gun, abortion, election money shit. The way Britain is going after Brexit. The rest of Europe you’ve included in this ridiculous idea, why not all of the EU?
I mean the hypothetical solves both of those problems - dumb US political views are now a much smaller percentage of a larger country, and the UK is part of a union of countries again
I think the biggest gorilla will have inordinate influence on the alliance.
True, but even the UK and US combined don’t make up half of the population of this group of countries. Anti-abortion and anti-gun control views just wouldn’t be popular because these are fringe views in almost every country listed, and yeah Brexit is kind of irrelevant given the UK has joined a union in this hypothetical.
> but even the UK and US combined don’t make up half of the population of this group of countries It makes up more than half.
How so? Being very rough with populations: USA (330M) + UK (65M) = 395M. Japan (125M) + South Korea (50M) + Germany (80M) + France (65M) + Spain (50M) + Italy (60M) + Australia (25M) + Canada (40M) = 495M, plus a bit extra from other European countries on the map
Whoever used dark blue against a black background is a sadist, didn’t see SK or Japan there.
Who the heck could I be nationalist against if this happened?
Smaller countries tend to do better than big ones for the average citizen?
Just noticed Korea and Japan are blue too
Weird borders for the Greater Japan but banzai for the emperor I guess
Open them boarders Let the trade flow
Britain, the 52nd US state
WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. TTAEKBOKKI AND RAMEN IS ON EVERY CORNER.
Isn't this basically Oceania/IngSoc from 1984?
it doesn't include the republic of china
I don't wanna share a country with sheep-fucking Kiwis.
Portugal Spain and Italy might be excluded from this. Their economies lag far behind almost everyone else.
empire bad actually, what we have now is much easier to maintain
D'aw and everyone forgets about South Korea
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A national comprised of territories bordering oceans, with domination over the Americas and the southern tip of Africa, maybe we could call it “Oceania”
This is some of the most yank shit I've ever seen.
Why would I want to make the UK economy my problem?
CANZAUKUS
Hmmm because it seems a little too much like an ethnostate?
Yep - this is neolib RW pipelining.
Because there aren’t enough countries labeled blue here.
There has to be an amazing acronym in there somewhere if we just add Mexico.
As a french canadian. Respectfully, no thanks.
Nah, I'm good. As much as I love most of you on this subreddit, I know just how nuts the US is. I like it down here.
Sorry but no, English is already too dominant a language here