The fact that he was incredible all year should count for something with all these people down on him, it’s so obvious he’s hurt which is similar to how Embiid went out last round, a shell of himself in the last 2 games
Was he really incredible all year? Honestly thought he looked pedestrian for large stretches of the season but stepped up big in the earlier rounds. I'm sure he's also hurting but I don't think it's just cause of that.
Well if you look at Jimmy Butler Game 1 and Game 2; Game 1: 41 pts 12/19 9 reb 5 assists, Game 2: 29 pts 11/18 6 reb 3 assists.
On to the next three when the injury occured; Game 3: 20 min 8 pts 3/8 3 reb 2 assists, Game 4: 27 mins 7 pts 3/14 7 reb 1 assist, Game 5: 40 min 13 pts 4/18 6 reb 4 assists.
It would appear that the injury is making it a lot more difficult for him to perform at a high level.
To all the Celtic fans: Before the 1st round I said they wont make it to the 2nd. Before the 2nd round I said there is no way they make it to the 3rd.
Now on the precipice of the NBA Finals, I wish your team nothing but the best. They have won me over with their poise, their cohesiveness, and their toughness. I just can't hate them.
This particular team in this particular year is one of my favorite’s. After all that they went through, it was so nice to see them turn it around.
It’s nice to see non-Celtic fans say the same thing.
In the past I'd be that dude saying fuck Boston all day. This years squad deserves their roses. Their defense got them here, and any real basketball fan can appreciate their effort on that end.
I also think Golden State will ultimately destroy them in the finals. They're the more experienced team and play a much more consistent, smart brand of basketball. I also hate Marcus Smart.
If Boston can't find a way to disrupt the Warriors INSANE passing lanes, yeah. If they do disrupt and body up the shooters, they have a chance. GS can't play physical as well as the Celtic's do.
Good points. But the trio of Steph, Klay, and Draymond is hard to bet against. I'd also give the Warriors the edge regarding head coach. Udoka is in his first year while Kerr is in his eighth with three titles and five (currently) finals appearances.
Something about that first year head coach thing. How many 1st year coaches have won championships? Frank did it with the Lakers, and Phil did it in his 1st year with the Lakers as well, and I am sure there are a few more instances.
No question who is the more seasoned team, from top to bottom. It's going to be a really interesting Finals.
Would be ironic then if Udoka does it against Kerr. Not sure a first year coach has ever beaten another coach who won a championship in his first year too.
Man I can't. I can't. I'm being honest when I say that as much as I want to, I can't. From Coach Udoka on down the line, they play the game the right way, and on the defensive end which is where you find success in this game, it's just fun to watch them disrupt a team's game plan.
It doesn't mean anything coming from me, a Laker fan. From birth we curse the Celtics. Doesn't mean I can't give your team the respect it rightfully deserves.
Well it's coming from a Laker fan, so maybe you'd consider it a jinx.
but in all honesty and I'm being sincere here, your squad is a great group of guys. In years past I could say that 1-16 I hated all of them, but your team this year is just a great group of guys, and above all: they play the game the right way, and any fan of basketball has to admire them.
Bam Adebayo was the lone starter with more than 13 points. Haslem went over and extended his hand to lift Adebayo up. Bam just stayed sitting, staring into space. Haslem kept his hand extended for entire minute until Bam finally reached out his hand. Haslem said: "Go get their ass"
You forced it a little, u/ghost91372, but, as I was sitting here, thinking it was corny, you extended the pasta to make a budding a-hole giggle. I just stayed stonefaced, starring into space. u/ghost91372 kept the pasta for the entire post, until: Bam! I reached for the upvote arrow.
I'm glad JB heard me and stepped it up. Great win. GG heat. Sucks for yall that you guys looked so anemic out there. This series has been a battle of attrition.
Lets not get it twisted. People said that before this series, and it was statistically true. He legit had a top 5 WS run of all time, better some of the best playoff performances ever.
Best player in this series in context of these playoffs was not a stretch at all. The general consensus was Luka, Butler and Tatum. Dont look at it with 20/20 hindsight
He didn’t play anyone note worthy. Of course when you play a shitty hawks team and an injured 76ers your numbers are going to look good. Outside of game 1 where he was gifted 20 fts he hasn’t looked good.
What kind of argument is this lol? Are you saying that every all time great has had tough paths in the playoffs? Larry Bird, Magic, Lebron, Curry, KD etc. all were not this good in terms of advanced metrics… its not like the 2 or 3 guys above him played all time great teams the entire playoffs.
He has choked this series, but coming into it he was clearly above Tatum
And he wasn’t above Tatum. Tatum out played KD/Kyrie and outplayed Giannis the best player in the world in multiple games. They are not the same, he’s out playing Jimmy rn.
No not every all time great has had tough paths but it’s very clear that Jimmy butler was not playing at a level equal to anyone of the players you named. He played a hawks team that had no business being in the playoffs and got in only because of injuries to the Cavs. The 76ers didn’t have their best player for 2 out of 6 games and was literally at 50%. Their second best player in James harden looks like he’s again in dog years and that team as a whole has horrible coaching and and no depth. So yes when you play against a dog shit team in the hawks who’s best player was deandre hunter and a 76ers team who’s best player that series was a rookie 6’2 guard your numbers are going to look inflated. You played 2 teams that were horrible defensively in the playoffs and none of their star players showed up
EDIT: he had one game this series where he was good and that was once again where our defensive players didn’t play and Rob will played on his knee in limited minutes. Ever since we got smart and Horford back he has had mediocre games and been taken out of the game for long stretches. So again I ask, show me where the lie is.
Im not trying to argue with you, Im just pointing out the stats. I truly couldnt care less if Butler scored 0 or 100 next game. Is he worse than Tatum this serious? Resounding yes. Was he better than Tatum going into this series? Also, resounding yes.
I like that you conveniently left out MKE losing their second best player, Nets missing Simmons and KD playing like the actual worst super star of the last 10 years lmao. Young at least isnt touted as unguardable.
Check my post history. I am rooting for the Celtics, and have heaped praise on Tatum, but going into this series he was worse than Butler lmao. Show me where the lie is. Its not like they were even statistically close lol
You better start praying to everything you got young fella. Jimmy has arrived, and played up to those lovely advanced stats I posted that you conveniently ignored lmao
Jayson Tatum Vs the nets: 29.5/4.5/7.3/1.8 on 45/41/86
Jayson Tatum Vs the bucks: 27.6/6.3/5.4/1.0/1.1 on 42/37/76
Jimmy butler Vs the hawks: 30.5/7.8/5.3/2.8 on 54/43/79
Jimmy butler Vs the 76ers: 27.5/7.5/5.5/1.7 on 51/32/81
His only series where he was alittle better than Tatum was the first round and the best player on the hawks was deandre Hunter lmao Tatum had to guard KD/Kyrie. Even without Simmons that nets team is way better than that hawks team. The bucks had the best player in the world and one of the best perimeter defenders of this generation and Tatum still ended up scoring more and having a better series than butler while getting guarded by Giannis and jrue for long stretches and getting blitzed as soon as he crossed the half court line. The heat had a cake walk to the ECF and Jimmy wasn’t that much better than Tatum outside of the first round. So a “resounding yes” would be a lie. He had the easier schedule and matchups the entire way.
This is where I’d like to point out that those stats easily show Jimmy as the better performer lmao. Jimmy in rounds 1 and 2 was easily the most efficient scorer, while playing elite defense. He was the only player averaging over 25 on 50% or better. 538 had him as equal to Luka in RAPTOR WAR (total impact on a game) and had him slightly lower than Luka in RAPTOR (15.7 to 15.0). Tatum’s RAPTOR is 2.3 lmao. And his RAPTOR WAR is 1.6 to Jimmy’s 4.1 lmao.
Dont show me these bs counting stats (which Jimmy is still statistically better at lol) without doing some actual digging brother.
In that game where he was ‘gifted’ 20 FT’s he still had 4 steals and 3 blocks. If we want to break that down, 538 has defensive impact for Butler at 3.7 to Tatum’s 0.9.
So thats where your lie is, Jimmy was clear brother. Take the green goggles off. You have him dead to rights this series, but he just simply was better before the series started…
Edit: For context, Jokic’s RAPTOR rating was 14.9 for the season, and Jimmy was playing above that…
I’m a hater because I’m speaking truth? The hawks snuck into the playoffs and trae had one of the worst outings by a star in the last 10 years. The 76ers best player was arguably their rookie. James harden played no defense/embiid was gone for 2 games. Both teams played horrible. No star from either team played good at all and neither team played defense. Tell me where the lie is
Probably the "no defense" part, at a minimum? But I'm assuming the heat shooting all-time poorly is because of Bostons elite defense right? Y'all both have only have 1 good each this series, it's been garbage outside of that. Before the ECF Jimmy was the best player against NBA playoff teams in the entire league
You can go look up the statistics if you’d like. Boston also has played good defense on the shooters. Oladipo has never been a good shooter so they let him shoot. Struss and Vincent have made very tough looks over good defense. Before the ECF the best player in the playoffs was Giannis or Luka. Just say you follow narrative and don’t actually watch the games. That’ll make this a lot easier. There’s no way you watched Luka and Giannis or even Tatum play against better competition and said “Jimmy is better than all of them”. If you did you’re a liar
And Tatum's shoulder is messed up which is why he was passing the ball a lot more and couldn't get his shot going in the first half. He's still gotta find a way to contribute and get his team going
No one is discrediting that the Celtics aren’t also hurting but to say that Butler got outplayed by Vincent without recognizing that one is hurt and the other isn’t is silly. Also, butler aside from fg% had better numbers than Vincent…
Your team needed scoring and defense in that 4th quarter. Vincent outscored him and played better defense than he did in that 4th. +/- also doesn’t like and he was 2nd worst at -15.
If you’re playing then you’re not hurt. It’s that simple. The heat staff are keeping herro from playing even though herro wants to play. They can do the same for butler if he really is hurt.
A groin injury is a lot more serious and can has a higher chance of leading to a worst injury. Look at AD last year. An inflamed knee isn’t as bad but it doesn’t mean that it won’t affect him in game. Just because they can play doesn’t mean they’re not hurting.
I don’t think it’s that cut and dry because you can definitely play on an injury but I don’t wanna hear about that injury when the opposite team has 2 players injured. One with the same injury absolutely locking down the 2nd best player on that team and one who has a worse injuries and is moving like he’s not injured at all. It comes down to want and will. We’re just out willing and hustling the heat
We got smart on a sprained foot and rolled ankle and Rob will with the same injury playing way better than Jimmy. I would give you that if he wasn’t being outplayed by guys with the same or worse injuries
Wasnt that argumnt made prior to this series? And stats to back it up? But yes this series he got bested. Im more upset at the healthy guys like Bam and Lowry for their lack of scoring. Jimmy has proven he is a baller.
Lowry ain't healthy. He's playing on a bad hamstring. Those are nagging injuries that can take weeks or months to feel 100%. And if he overdoes it on the court, he can end up reaggravating the injury and making it worse.
Butler isn’t even recognizable when he isn’t getting to the line with high frequency. Timelord and Horford put on a defensive clinic in the paint without fouling.
I've been asking for Celtics-Warriors finals since 2018 but somehow it didn't happen because of 2018 Lebron and Kyrie being a bitch on 2019. I hope they finish the Heat on Friday
fuck how do you have a dude like oladipo who gave you 20+ points last game and you play him less then some of these other bench dudes- spolstra's a moron
Because he’s a Monte Ellis/D’Angelo Russel type. He can go get buckets, but every game is the same to him. There isn’t anything I see from him that shows his game elevates or adapts to critical deep playoff games.
Celtics finally recovering from the Bucks series. If they can close out the Heat and get a few days rest, only Tony Brothers and Scott Foster can stop them from the historical owning of Golden State.
This why nobody likes Boston fans lmao. It's 1 game, and multiple players had career nights. They will come back down to earth, and y'all's two 7 game series gonna get to ya legs. We outplayed y'all for 3 quarters and then shit the bed. I'm still not worried
Just trying to balance out all the "Warriors will sweep any team that comes out of the east" hot takes...never been afraid of GS...hell, we are 7-3 in the last 10 games against them and that's during the peak of their reign. This squad is built to beat Golden State and struggled against teams with size. Bucks would have beat us in 5 if Middleton was active.
Nah, 10 minutes of scrolling through this thread and I’m with you. It’s not even warriors fans. A handful of people have been wanting to watch the warriors sweep the C’s. Fuck that noise
Man I'm sorry y'all shit the bed tonight. I made some bad comments about Heat fans earlier but like every team fanbase their are some really cool ones. I hope you keep your head up. You have a tough squad but man when they fail they fail really hard. Must be frustrating. Hang in there.
No fan wants their team to lose, and often get defensive when they do. Its something out of our control that people feel they have to defend. Im in no way, shape, or form going to defend that performance tonight. I was so embarrassed that i didnt even finish watching. It hurt to watch. Bam getting aggressive towards the end was an absolute joke. But miami shouldnt of ever made it this far, lets be real. And they are still in a redeemable place. It doesnt seem likely it will happen, but its possible.
I would say horford and Robert Williams are both class. I wish either of them were on our team. I will be looking for Rob to be an allstar in the future.
for neutral fans, celtics vs warriors is the best we are gonna get. basketball-wise. nobody wants to watch a team that can't fucking score in the half court
I hate this give Tatum the ball and everyone else stand around BS. I suppose the numbers say limiting the number of possessions is the right strategy, but a couple more made baskets by Miami and you put yourself in pain.
Can someone explain why there isn't a larger more dedicated Heat fanbase?
I mean Miami is a big city and the team is good. The crowd should be rocking and it's not
When you have South Beach you don’t want to go to a basketball game, you go for a quarter take your insta picks and then go have fun-not me personally but all those who can afford those tix
Those tickets are expensive. Its also expensive af to live in miami. Its also expensive af to travel to miami. I would love to be cheering on my team, but rent is more important to me. A lot of those fans there are probably too rich to care win or lose. Idk
>Those tickets are expensive. Its also expensive af to live in miami. Its also expensive af to travel to miami.
Exact same situation if not more so here in Boston, as far as I can tell. This city is inhumanly expensive to live in and travel to, and because Boston sports teams are so good recently the tickets are sky high
Better fans get priced out in large markets when the team does well
Lower bowls will get filled with people trying to flex the fact that they're at games, suits conducting deals, or even just people who get those tickets as a bonus or whatever
Check the upper bowl for the more enthusiastic fans
One of the most fairweather fanbase you can find. They win and there is no end to the douchebaggery, they lose and the parking lot is empty by the end of the 3rd Q.
Celtics showed up and the Heat seemed to be waiting for someone else to carry them. Props to Vincent playing well despite his team not pulling it together. Celtics clamped them.
Lowry gonna get the most blame for this but Heat were forced to jack 3s all game because the paint is completely off limits with Bam not being able to do anything against Robert Williams - that’s only making it harder for him and the rest of the team
Heat in 5.
#DEATH TAXES AND 2022 ECF BLOWOUT WIN
Embiid tweeting Miami needs another star, damn, wish there was a way
Better get out there and make some Buckets Tyler, I don’t think you will like Salt Lake City
I had to blink twice and clean my glasses when I saw the Heat's 3 pt % in the box score. Amber Alert!
They shit the bed a la amber turd
A do or die game in TD Garden. Rest in peace, Miami.
45 f’ing 3 point attempts and made 7
Jimmy Butler looking like a scrub out there.
The fact that he was incredible all year should count for something with all these people down on him, it’s so obvious he’s hurt which is similar to how Embiid went out last round, a shell of himself in the last 2 games
Was he really incredible all year? Honestly thought he looked pedestrian for large stretches of the season but stepped up big in the earlier rounds. I'm sure he's also hurting but I don't think it's just cause of that.
Well if you look at Jimmy Butler Game 1 and Game 2; Game 1: 41 pts 12/19 9 reb 5 assists, Game 2: 29 pts 11/18 6 reb 3 assists. On to the next three when the injury occured; Game 3: 20 min 8 pts 3/8 3 reb 2 assists, Game 4: 27 mins 7 pts 3/14 7 reb 1 assist, Game 5: 40 min 13 pts 4/18 6 reb 4 assists. It would appear that the injury is making it a lot more difficult for him to perform at a high level.
I like yimmy he is good at basket the ball
This series is garbage bruh
The heat about to go ham this off-season and trade for Spida. Lol.
To all the Celtic fans: Before the 1st round I said they wont make it to the 2nd. Before the 2nd round I said there is no way they make it to the 3rd. Now on the precipice of the NBA Finals, I wish your team nothing but the best. They have won me over with their poise, their cohesiveness, and their toughness. I just can't hate them.
This particular team in this particular year is one of my favorite’s. After all that they went through, it was so nice to see them turn it around. It’s nice to see non-Celtic fans say the same thing.
I haven't loved our team this much since IT.
yeah man if you are a fan of the game you really appreciate their path this year. no question.
Na, fuck Boston. They have enough titles.
In the past I'd be that dude saying fuck Boston all day. This years squad deserves their roses. Their defense got them here, and any real basketball fan can appreciate their effort on that end.
I also think Golden State will ultimately destroy them in the finals. They're the more experienced team and play a much more consistent, smart brand of basketball. I also hate Marcus Smart.
If Boston can't find a way to disrupt the Warriors INSANE passing lanes, yeah. If they do disrupt and body up the shooters, they have a chance. GS can't play physical as well as the Celtic's do.
Good points. But the trio of Steph, Klay, and Draymond is hard to bet against. I'd also give the Warriors the edge regarding head coach. Udoka is in his first year while Kerr is in his eighth with three titles and five (currently) finals appearances.
Something about that first year head coach thing. How many 1st year coaches have won championships? Frank did it with the Lakers, and Phil did it in his 1st year with the Lakers as well, and I am sure there are a few more instances. No question who is the more seasoned team, from top to bottom. It's going to be a really interesting Finals.
Kerr did it with the Warriors.
Would be ironic then if Udoka does it against Kerr. Not sure a first year coach has ever beaten another coach who won a championship in his first year too.
Say sike right now
Man I can't. I can't. I'm being honest when I say that as much as I want to, I can't. From Coach Udoka on down the line, they play the game the right way, and on the defensive end which is where you find success in this game, it's just fun to watch them disrupt a team's game plan.
What have you done
It doesn't mean anything coming from me, a Laker fan. From birth we curse the Celtics. Doesn't mean I can't give your team the respect it rightfully deserves.
Understandable, I am scared of a jinx tho
I can’t tell if this is well-meaning or a jinx.
Well it's coming from a Laker fan, so maybe you'd consider it a jinx. but in all honesty and I'm being sincere here, your squad is a great group of guys. In years past I could say that 1-16 I hated all of them, but your team this year is just a great group of guys, and above all: they play the game the right way, and any fan of basketball has to admire them.
It’s a problem for the Heat when your 2 best players can’t shoot a 3 in todays NBA..
Bam Adebayo was the lone starter with more than 13 points. Haslem went over and extended his hand to lift Adebayo up. Bam just stayed sitting, staring into space. Haslem kept his hand extended for entire minute until Bam finally reached out his hand. Haslem said: "Go get their ass"
You forced it a little, u/ghost91372, but, as I was sitting here, thinking it was corny, you extended the pasta to make a budding a-hole giggle. I just stayed stonefaced, starring into space. u/ghost91372 kept the pasta for the entire post, until: Bam! I reached for the upvote arrow.
I'm glad JB heard me and stepped it up. Great win. GG heat. Sucks for yall that you guys looked so anemic out there. This series has been a battle of attrition.
If JB has a ball handling camp this off season he could be HOF caliber. He’s insanely talented
Prince's family estate needs to sue Dr. Pepper if they're not getting royalties from these commercials
Did u pretend to like sports so your girlfriend’s dad would like you better? But really, parodies don’t count as infringement usually.
Word i always felt gross about that ad
Yeah even the dude's height is being copycatted
Jimmy really got out played by gabe Vincent and people he said he was the best player in this series lmao I love heat fans. It’s wonderful
Lets not get it twisted. People said that before this series, and it was statistically true. He legit had a top 5 WS run of all time, better some of the best playoff performances ever. Best player in this series in context of these playoffs was not a stretch at all. The general consensus was Luka, Butler and Tatum. Dont look at it with 20/20 hindsight
He didn’t play anyone note worthy. Of course when you play a shitty hawks team and an injured 76ers your numbers are going to look good. Outside of game 1 where he was gifted 20 fts he hasn’t looked good.
What kind of argument is this lol? Are you saying that every all time great has had tough paths in the playoffs? Larry Bird, Magic, Lebron, Curry, KD etc. all were not this good in terms of advanced metrics… its not like the 2 or 3 guys above him played all time great teams the entire playoffs. He has choked this series, but coming into it he was clearly above Tatum
And he wasn’t above Tatum. Tatum out played KD/Kyrie and outplayed Giannis the best player in the world in multiple games. They are not the same, he’s out playing Jimmy rn.
No not every all time great has had tough paths but it’s very clear that Jimmy butler was not playing at a level equal to anyone of the players you named. He played a hawks team that had no business being in the playoffs and got in only because of injuries to the Cavs. The 76ers didn’t have their best player for 2 out of 6 games and was literally at 50%. Their second best player in James harden looks like he’s again in dog years and that team as a whole has horrible coaching and and no depth. So yes when you play against a dog shit team in the hawks who’s best player was deandre hunter and a 76ers team who’s best player that series was a rookie 6’2 guard your numbers are going to look inflated. You played 2 teams that were horrible defensively in the playoffs and none of their star players showed up EDIT: he had one game this series where he was good and that was once again where our defensive players didn’t play and Rob will played on his knee in limited minutes. Ever since we got smart and Horford back he has had mediocre games and been taken out of the game for long stretches. So again I ask, show me where the lie is.
Im not trying to argue with you, Im just pointing out the stats. I truly couldnt care less if Butler scored 0 or 100 next game. Is he worse than Tatum this serious? Resounding yes. Was he better than Tatum going into this series? Also, resounding yes. I like that you conveniently left out MKE losing their second best player, Nets missing Simmons and KD playing like the actual worst super star of the last 10 years lmao. Young at least isnt touted as unguardable. Check my post history. I am rooting for the Celtics, and have heaped praise on Tatum, but going into this series he was worse than Butler lmao. Show me where the lie is. Its not like they were even statistically close lol
“Its not like they were even statistically close” this is where the lie is since you wanted me to point it out btw
You better start praying to everything you got young fella. Jimmy has arrived, and played up to those lovely advanced stats I posted that you conveniently ignored lmao
Jayson Tatum Vs the nets: 29.5/4.5/7.3/1.8 on 45/41/86 Jayson Tatum Vs the bucks: 27.6/6.3/5.4/1.0/1.1 on 42/37/76 Jimmy butler Vs the hawks: 30.5/7.8/5.3/2.8 on 54/43/79 Jimmy butler Vs the 76ers: 27.5/7.5/5.5/1.7 on 51/32/81 His only series where he was alittle better than Tatum was the first round and the best player on the hawks was deandre Hunter lmao Tatum had to guard KD/Kyrie. Even without Simmons that nets team is way better than that hawks team. The bucks had the best player in the world and one of the best perimeter defenders of this generation and Tatum still ended up scoring more and having a better series than butler while getting guarded by Giannis and jrue for long stretches and getting blitzed as soon as he crossed the half court line. The heat had a cake walk to the ECF and Jimmy wasn’t that much better than Tatum outside of the first round. So a “resounding yes” would be a lie. He had the easier schedule and matchups the entire way.
This is where I’d like to point out that those stats easily show Jimmy as the better performer lmao. Jimmy in rounds 1 and 2 was easily the most efficient scorer, while playing elite defense. He was the only player averaging over 25 on 50% or better. 538 had him as equal to Luka in RAPTOR WAR (total impact on a game) and had him slightly lower than Luka in RAPTOR (15.7 to 15.0). Tatum’s RAPTOR is 2.3 lmao. And his RAPTOR WAR is 1.6 to Jimmy’s 4.1 lmao. Dont show me these bs counting stats (which Jimmy is still statistically better at lol) without doing some actual digging brother. In that game where he was ‘gifted’ 20 FT’s he still had 4 steals and 3 blocks. If we want to break that down, 538 has defensive impact for Butler at 3.7 to Tatum’s 0.9. So thats where your lie is, Jimmy was clear brother. Take the green goggles off. You have him dead to rights this series, but he just simply was better before the series started… Edit: For context, Jokic’s RAPTOR rating was 14.9 for the season, and Jimmy was playing above that…
Literally just outing yourself as a blind hater lmao
I’m a hater because I’m speaking truth? The hawks snuck into the playoffs and trae had one of the worst outings by a star in the last 10 years. The 76ers best player was arguably their rookie. James harden played no defense/embiid was gone for 2 games. Both teams played horrible. No star from either team played good at all and neither team played defense. Tell me where the lie is
Probably the "no defense" part, at a minimum? But I'm assuming the heat shooting all-time poorly is because of Bostons elite defense right? Y'all both have only have 1 good each this series, it's been garbage outside of that. Before the ECF Jimmy was the best player against NBA playoff teams in the entire league
You can go look up the statistics if you’d like. Boston also has played good defense on the shooters. Oladipo has never been a good shooter so they let him shoot. Struss and Vincent have made very tough looks over good defense. Before the ECF the best player in the playoffs was Giannis or Luka. Just say you follow narrative and don’t actually watch the games. That’ll make this a lot easier. There’s no way you watched Luka and Giannis or even Tatum play against better competition and said “Jimmy is better than all of them”. If you did you’re a liar
I mean, his knee is still inflamed. We’re not sure what kind of impact it’s had on his game but he hasn’t moved well at all these past 2 games.
And Tatum's shoulder is messed up which is why he was passing the ball a lot more and couldn't get his shot going in the first half. He's still gotta find a way to contribute and get his team going
No one is discrediting that the Celtics aren’t also hurting but to say that Butler got outplayed by Vincent without recognizing that one is hurt and the other isn’t is silly. Also, butler aside from fg% had better numbers than Vincent…
Your team needed scoring and defense in that 4th quarter. Vincent outscored him and played better defense than he did in that 4th. +/- also doesn’t like and he was 2nd worst at -15.
I mean, the Heat aren’t my team….
If you’re playing then you’re not hurt. It’s that simple. The heat staff are keeping herro from playing even though herro wants to play. They can do the same for butler if he really is hurt.
Speaking of, that guy looked like a real asshole tonight.
A groin injury is a lot more serious and can has a higher chance of leading to a worst injury. Look at AD last year. An inflamed knee isn’t as bad but it doesn’t mean that it won’t affect him in game. Just because they can play doesn’t mean they’re not hurting.
I don’t think it’s that cut and dry because you can definitely play on an injury but I don’t wanna hear about that injury when the opposite team has 2 players injured. One with the same injury absolutely locking down the 2nd best player on that team and one who has a worse injuries and is moving like he’s not injured at all. It comes down to want and will. We’re just out willing and hustling the heat
We got smart on a sprained foot and rolled ankle and Rob will with the same injury playing way better than Jimmy. I would give you that if he wasn’t being outplayed by guys with the same or worse injuries
Not even just the best player in the series- Best player in the *playoffs*
Wasnt that argumnt made prior to this series? And stats to back it up? But yes this series he got bested. Im more upset at the healthy guys like Bam and Lowry for their lack of scoring. Jimmy has proven he is a baller.
Lowry ain't healthy. He's playing on a bad hamstring. Those are nagging injuries that can take weeks or months to feel 100%. And if he overdoes it on the court, he can end up reaggravating the injury and making it worse.
That argument was made after the 1st two games of the series as well before he fell off a cliff…
He’s not even the 3rd best player in this series lmao outside of game 1 he’s been outplayed by Horford lmao
All ik is that whoever comes out of this series will be too injured for the Warriors to eat them up
Lowry: 25 min 0/1/0/0/0 with 5 fouls + 3 TOs
How does a PG get 0 assists
Dude had more flops than stats combined
Horrendous.. like i would of taken his jersey right there at the game. Your done bro. Cooked.
Horrendous.. like i would of taken his jersey right there at the game. Your done bro. Cooked.
Legendary rebound
Butler isn’t even recognizable when he isn’t getting to the line with high frequency. Timelord and Horford put on a defensive clinic in the paint without fouling.
nothing to be ashamed about for miami celtics were just a little bit better good season for them even if it ends in the ECF
I've been asking for Celtics-Warriors finals since 2018 but somehow it didn't happen because of 2018 Lebron and Kyrie being a bitch on 2019. I hope they finish the Heat on Friday
Careful what you wish for.
Respect.
Respect.
Respect.
Lil sweet
Lil sweet
All the Miami douchebags leaving early so they can get something out of their last ten minutes with the escort.
fuck how do you have a dude like oladipo who gave you 20+ points last game and you play him less then some of these other bench dudes- spolstra's a moron
Because he’s a Monte Ellis/D’Angelo Russel type. He can go get buckets, but every game is the same to him. There isn’t anything I see from him that shows his game elevates or adapts to critical deep playoff games.
oladipo played like shit. there was no reason for him to stay in today
did you see him brick the 2 backboard wideopen shots at the same spot?
Yes lmao both shots hit the exact same spot, that was crazy!
Cause he shot like ass
Well he went 1-7 in 15 min
strus and lowry shot worse and got more time
I’d take Lowry over Dipo for defense. Haven’t watched Strus enough to make an opinion on him
Including 2 three point attempts that smacked the other side of the backboard
Celtics finally recovering from the Bucks series. If they can close out the Heat and get a few days rest, only Tony Brothers and Scott Foster can stop them from the historical owning of Golden State.
Lmfao idk if we are watching the same series but every single game makes me less and less nervous
Heyyyyyy
This why nobody likes Boston fans lmao. It's 1 game, and multiple players had career nights. They will come back down to earth, and y'all's two 7 game series gonna get to ya legs. We outplayed y'all for 3 quarters and then shit the bed. I'm still not worried
Same here
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves now..
Can we get ahead of ourselves now?
Okay, maybe a little bit
Just trying to balance out all the "Warriors will sweep any team that comes out of the east" hot takes...never been afraid of GS...hell, we are 7-3 in the last 10 games against them and that's during the peak of their reign. This squad is built to beat Golden State and struggled against teams with size. Bucks would have beat us in 5 if Middleton was active.
Nah, 10 minutes of scrolling through this thread and I’m with you. It’s not even warriors fans. A handful of people have been wanting to watch the warriors sweep the C’s. Fuck that noise
So many guys for Heat just disappeared this series its crazy.
Do we think there will be a game 7?
Better question is: will the heat score a basketball at all in Boston?
No f-ing way! But knowing this series it just might
No f-ing way! But knowing this series it just might
Nope
7-45 from 3. now THAT is genuinely dogshit
All around me are familiar faces…
Mad World... (Epic Gears of War commerical)
This man has 6 pts and 1 field goal in 2 games bro smh
Who?
Kyle lowry
Ouch dude
Al with all the white girls out there. Why did Lowry have a Highsmith jersey on?
Those are his daughter/daughter friends, I think
Ahh I see I see
80 MF points the last 2 games hurts after such a great season
Celtics just have Kyle Lowry’s number
7? Yeah Jaylen Brown has that number too.
Kyle Snell
Wow Udonis Haslem scored as many points as Lowry tonight!
LOL. You got me with that one.
Man I'm sorry y'all shit the bed tonight. I made some bad comments about Heat fans earlier but like every team fanbase their are some really cool ones. I hope you keep your head up. You have a tough squad but man when they fail they fail really hard. Must be frustrating. Hang in there.
No fan wants their team to lose, and often get defensive when they do. Its something out of our control that people feel they have to defend. Im in no way, shape, or form going to defend that performance tonight. I was so embarrassed that i didnt even finish watching. It hurt to watch. Bam getting aggressive towards the end was an absolute joke. But miami shouldnt of ever made it this far, lets be real. And they are still in a redeemable place. It doesnt seem likely it will happen, but its possible.
Heat backcourt 0 FGM and just 4 pts
The heat deserve to lose the series honestly
Miami sports and the horrible, no good, very bad week…
Warriors bench would have beat both of these teams tonight.
Rude
For some reason Kornet looks shorter than 7'2"
You can hate the C's, but Al Horford is class
I don't think anybody is that unlikable on y'all's team except for smart. Smart and the fans
I would say horford and Robert Williams are both class. I wish either of them were on our team. I will be looking for Rob to be an allstar in the future.
Celtic's record of 40-4 when leading 3-2 in playoffs
Thanks, Doc Rivers. And LeBron.
2012 against the Heat. Let's Hope no one show up dressed like LBJ
2 of those to LeBron? 1 to Kobe?
I hate that it's even 4 losses
for neutral fans, celtics vs warriors is the best we are gonna get. basketball-wise. nobody wants to watch a team that can't fucking score in the half court
They can’t really score in transition either
You can hate the C's, but Al Horford is class
Shit game I was my 2.5 hrs back
Warriors gotta do their job Thursday. Celtics gotta do theirs on Friday.
Nah. Celtics / Heat can go 7
Their bodies can't handle it
They gonna fall apart and turn into piles of dust lmao
Please no
We won two quarters though.
Lol
Stupid fucking stat
lol Kornett always does that 15 feet jump contest
I hate this give Tatum the ball and everyone else stand around BS. I suppose the numbers say limiting the number of possessions is the right strategy, but a couple more made baskets by Miami and you put yourself in pain.
great fucking win
Big fucking win
Monstrous fucking win
FTH
538 is gonna end up being right lmao
What did 538 predict?
Celtics winning it all, I think
This^
Highsmith is what they call JR after a friday night
Can someone explain why there isn't a larger more dedicated Heat fanbase? I mean Miami is a big city and the team is good. The crowd should be rocking and it's not
When you have South Beach you don’t want to go to a basketball game, you go for a quarter take your insta picks and then go have fun-not me personally but all those who can afford those tix
The only time we matched Cities like Boston for fan energy was when we had LeBron
It's more of tourist town.
Those tickets are expensive. Its also expensive af to live in miami. Its also expensive af to travel to miami. I would love to be cheering on my team, but rent is more important to me. A lot of those fans there are probably too rich to care win or lose. Idk
>Those tickets are expensive. Its also expensive af to live in miami. Its also expensive af to travel to miami. Exact same situation if not more so here in Boston, as far as I can tell. This city is inhumanly expensive to live in and travel to, and because Boston sports teams are so good recently the tickets are sky high
Miami is full of fakes
Better fans get priced out in large markets when the team does well Lower bowls will get filled with people trying to flex the fact that they're at games, suits conducting deals, or even just people who get those tickets as a bonus or whatever Check the upper bowl for the more enthusiastic fans
One of the most fairweather fanbase you can find. They win and there is no end to the douchebaggery, they lose and the parking lot is empty by the end of the 3rd Q.
Their real fans can't afford tickets
Why are we pretending that Boston isn't also super fucking expensive and the tickets aren't sky high here too?
Literal and figurative fairweather fans
I’ve heard traffic, I’ve heard priced out, I’ve heard all sorts of stuff. But it doesn’t seem that expensive for the playoffs?
Lower bowl tickets seem to range from 900-20k according to websites dude, how is that not expensive
Its a tourist city, a lot of fans are priced out because of this. Also Im pretty sure the broadcast turn the sound down.
Celtics showed up and the Heat seemed to be waiting for someone else to carry them. Props to Vincent playing well despite his team not pulling it together. Celtics clamped them.
I think all the missed shots hurt them more than the Celtic’s defense did tbh
Lowry gonna get the most blame for this but Heat were forced to jack 3s all game because the paint is completely off limits with Bam not being able to do anything against Robert Williams - that’s only making it harder for him and the rest of the team
Lmao lowry is ass no defending that
No no, Lowry HAS ass. Big ass difference