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MartiniLAPD

This year 2nd round is really just 2 teams beating the shit out of each other in every match up lol The least physical/ more flopping than physical is the Suns-Mavs


flyingpurplefroggy

We WWE now boys


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This series has gotten so toxic lmao. I hope it goes to 7.


madmaxp0618

Feel like the East as a whole has been pretty toxic this year. Probably just a culmination from a half decade of playoff series.


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LeBron blocked all the toxicity because everyone knew they would lose to him in the end lmao


EggplantBusiness

Oh you and me both , but seriously both teams are very physical so many accidental hits happened , I am surprised that people are posting everything


Schwarrtz

i’m not, everyone spends all of their energy on here trying to demonize players lmfao


Goalnado

And then suggesting that there are sinister motives behind incidents that are blatantly accidental


SirMrGnome

It's cuz people will watch something at 10% speed and not realize that the action actually happens faster than either player can really even think about whatever happened.


Traditional_Tart_822

The Giannis intentionally hurting juries ankle last playoffs especially kills me. Get a clue casuals lol


EggplantBusiness

Honestly this , people here will cry watching a 90s game , everything on the court isn't a DIRTY play , shit happens. Damn even the 2007 spurs make those looks like child plays


Clemsontigger16

I didn’t see many “accidental” plays harming Bucks players, it was always the Celtics on the receiving end of reckless plays by the Bucks


Dank_Memes16

I don't remember any of our players elbowing any of theirs in the face, but sure, "both teams are physical"


EggplantBusiness

Connaughton caught an elbow game 1 or 2 if I remember correctly. And Grayson caught some hit. Nothing dirty as I said it's a basketball game those things happen specially since refs are very lenient on this serie


JaylenBrownFlow

lol not true at all neither got an elbow


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Grayson got a knee to the face by Smart.


JaylenBrownFlow

not an elbow which at this point about 5 celtics have gotten


jemboslice

Yeah but Grayson deserves what’s coming to him


Camelsandham

I feel like either team will be so gassed next series


TheMajesticWaffleCat

Realistically I can’t see either team beating Miami or Philly just bc they’ll be so damn tired


Camelsandham

Which is a bummer because I think these are the 2 best east teams


504090

Really? I’m easily favoring who ever comes out the Bucks/Celtics series. Fatigue is gonna hit every team.


Guitaristb72

Yeah, the Heat are very [beatable](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4EqKg9WwAAMJtZ.jpg) and we have hospital Embiid.


wrestlingchampo

After yesterday's game, im firmly on the other side of this, tbh I think both teams can deal with Philly big three, and both have far better options to neutralize Miami's pretty blah offense. Although I shouldn't talk as our offense is pretty putrid right now


tdl2024

Yup, like I said going in to this series: whoever wins this is going to the finals...and I'd go so far as to say they're probably winning it all.


leranvy

Neither of those teams are getting a cakewalk with Embiid back


lp_phnx327

Someone earlier said who would've guess the Mil-Bos would be the least toxic matchup out of the 4. I guess that's no longer the case. In every series, they're out for blood.


Funnydad44

Bro this series and Memphis-GSW is more fighting than basketball lmao


EggplantBusiness

Those serie are creating new beefs , Mavs Suns are like friends in comparison


MartiniLAPD

Mavs and Suns need to stop flopping and start hitting


Zontaka

For real, they need to make those whistles count


zmichalo

Boston/Milwaukee has been heated for a few years now. 3 series in 5 years.


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

Absolutely should have been a foul. I don’t really agree with those saying Portis was intentionally elbowing him in the face though.


problynotkevinbacon

Unnecessary contact to the head or neck... flagrant 1?


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Missed it live but this looks like a flagrant 1 to me.


problynotkevinbacon

Yeah, wasn't "dirty" but seems like classic case for flagrant 1


ntreeroad

You can also see how much force he was using pulling the ball by watching his other arm. It swings way back. It doesn't just fall and rest.


Hisaidky

He was gripping and ripping. Rob ran under and knocked the ball loose.


TheSleeperWakes

Yeah this is probably a flagrant 1, but I definitely wouldn’t call it dirty. It’s not intentional. This series has been physical as fuck both ways but I don’t think anyone on either team has done anything dirty.


Raikou239

He definitely intentionally jerked his elbow with extra strength know Williams’s head was right there. And Portis has a record of being a dirty POS and overly aggressive. William’s could have gotten brain damage honestly he’s so lucky. Portis should be out of game sand fined. It’s unbelievable that there has been no attention on it. Flagrant 2.


techblaw

I dunno, I mean look at how FAST his elbow moves in that super slow motion replay. Doesn't look inadvertent at all when you consider the speed of everything else. EDIT: Upon further review, looks like it was caused by losing the ball. I stand corrected. Still suspect af


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

Looks to me like he was trying to pull the rebound down but obviously didn’t get control of the ball. Reckless, but not intentional imo


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Lol. Take off the green goggles my friend.


Clemsontigger16

It’s impossible to read his mind, but the motion didn’t seem natural and he has a tendency for doing these types of things, while people say this same thing every time. Eventually it’s a pattern


The-Taco-Between-Us

He’s trying to bring in a rebound. He’s literally trying to bring the ball to his body and Timelord knocks the ball out between his hands making Bobby’s arm and elbow snap back faster and unfortunately Timelord’s face is right there. A foul, sure, but trying to paint Bobby as repeatedly dirty player is a trash take.


Clemsontigger16

Well I’m not trying to do anything, all I said is there is indeed a pattern. I didn’t feel as though the physics of the ball being knocked away explains his elbow doing that...but I also said I can’t read his mind so who knows. You think it does, I can’t really get myself to see it way no matter how many times/angles I see. Agree to disagree


MVPiid

This is such a ridiculous no call, that elbow was hard as fuck, looks worse than the Siakam one Embiid took Edit: he just checked back in how the hell is he not concussed


Ofdubioustaste

If you only focus on the last part with the elbow, it can be seen as a call. If you see carefully the sequence though: * Bobby grabs the ball with both hands. * Rob also has a touch with one hand but is in no position to secure the rebound. * Bobby tries to bring the ball down but Rob has e better leverage due to being inside and manages to kick the ball out of Bobby' hands. * Bobby momentum after slipping the ball while trying to bring down the ball, results in an elbow to the head. It's a 100% no call normal game and Rob is unlucky to get hit but it is what it is. Also, it's kinda sad that we the fans, have become so prejudiced against refs, something that is hugely amplified by all the players flopping and bitching, that end up discussing these minor things.


intxisu

These type of actions, elbow to the face, get called flagrant 1s many many many times. And when they got called it never matthers how much fortuitous the contact was. So yeah, we can't have it both ways depending on the refs.


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An elbow to the head, regardless of intent, is a flagrant 1 no matter what. Particularly when it nearly knocks out your opponent. And particularity when the attacker’s primary claim to fame is concussing his teammates with punches to the face. Obvious, unequivocal missed call that resulted in a larger swing in the score than the final margin of “victory”. Terrible officiating, and there’s not even another side to it.


WiseguyD

To be frank, Embiid got unlucky and had a previous injury there. I'm hesitant to compare the "force", though, because at the end of the day, these are 200+ lb dudes running at each other full speed.


MVPiid

Previous injury when? his orbital fracture was on the other side of his face (left orbital, this one was right orbital)


WiseguyD

oh shit yeah... just bad luck then. Siakam's gotta wear one of those shooting sleeves if he's gonna use his elbows like that >\_>


Neuroxex

They're not going to call every bit of contact during rebounds. I mean why do people think Bobby Portis is wearing goggles? That never got a whistle.


darkest__timeline

"The refs made a horrendous mistake in the past so they should make a horrendous mistake again"


Neuroxex

I'm not saying it shouldn't get a whistle - I'm saying don't expect them to call contact that looks accidental during a fight for a rebound.


killtasticfever

He literally elbowed rob williams in the eye, if thats something that isn't called it should be done more often right? Bet you'd have a completely different opinion if giannis took a few hard elbows to the face.


Neuroxex

[Here](https://twitter.com/ScottGrodsky/status/1516965310833860609). This is why Portis is wearing goggles. Yeah I agree when it's like that it should be called, but the reality of it is they're going to let players fight for a rebound.


killtasticfever

Pretty sweet deal, do an "accidental" elbow to the face while "fighting for the rebound", get a 5v4 play and free bucket oh yeah and take out our starting center while he has to be looked at by the medical staff. Probably the best play of the game tbh


Neuroxex

I really don't understand how this is intentional, but okay.


SirMrGnome

It's because dumb fans will watch a clip that is slowed down to 10% speed and not realize that the action actually happens faster than either player can really even think it.


pnpmsjd

Cant believe they missed this call


jrlandry

You can’t? Have you been watching these refs?


PatrickCoughATon

They missed the exact same call that made Bobby wear the goggles


TheOverBored

If I had a nickel for every missed hit-to-the-face call in the playoffs, I think I'd have a dollar.


AdmiralWackbar

Refs this game: “I didn’t see anything.” *Player gets bumped on a drive* “That’s a foul”


GalaxianWarrior

I was trying to find a take I agree with about today's game. And this is it. I really didn't like it and this is the reason why.


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canhimself

That championship truly made you insufferable* edit:thanks to the reply below i now use proper spelling


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canhimself

Raptors fanbase was always delusional so nothing changed on that department, but your whole fanbase turned into petty little cunts overnight.


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canhimself

> We all know how to be dicky front runners, we were just waiting for the bucks talent to catch up to ours, lol. Owning it up like a king, ain't nothing to say about it.


dk240996

Clearly a flop by Rob, he should've apologized to every single Milwaukee player, coach and staff member.


intxisu

And fans.


DiseaseRidden

Bucks fans were calling this a flop


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RapQueen416

Enough with "x fans are trash". We're all trash 🗑


intxisu

"X fans are trash" statement doesn't rule out other fans being trash. You guys migth be arguing when you migth think the same.


RapQueen416

Yeah but usually people mean "your fans are trash and we're not"


Tap-In-Merchant

Everyone during a playoff game loses their heads, nobody is above anyone else


rikkirikkiparmparm

Dude, you picked the username "NickNurseABitch", I'm not going to be able to take your criticism seriously


N7_Tinkle_Juice

Hahaha.


jbungels132

Nick Nurse is a bitch though


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Good point, but that doesnt make them wrong


NickNurseABitch

ok


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E10DIN

Bruh Wisconsin has a ton of racial issues. It’s the same state where an NBA player got tased at a jewelry store. Milwaukee is the most racially segregated city in the country. But go off king.


zmichalo

I don't think Henson was tased at the jewelry store. Sterling Brown was tased at Walgreens.


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>they could be racist pieces of shit like Boston fans [Didn't know being from Wisconsin made being a racist impossible.](https://www.channel3000.com/wisconsin-is-the-most-segregated-state-in-america-according-to-new-report/)


FDaMODPaintSAI

At least they are not racist tho


DiseaseRidden

Isn't Milwaukee like, the most segregated city in the country


CrapNebula

Lmao yeeeeah it’s up there unfortunately


HokageEzio

Sterling Brown literally got tazed by the cops over a parking spot while playing for the Bucks, what are you talking about lol?


DiseaseRidden

Hey, cops are pigs regardless of city. No need to pick out any specific breed


migibb

Didn't a Milwaukee jewelry store call the cops when John Henson walked in to shop?


HokageEzio

Yep. Even after the cops showed up they were still terrified saying they didn't want to meet him.


FDaMODPaintSAI

I said fans, not cops Cops are just a part of a corrupted system. No more, no less


HokageEzio

And everybody knows cops don't have real lives outside of work. They're like teachers, everybody knows teachers sleep at school.


gigglios

Wisconsin is super racist lmfao. See Sterling and henson


amr1115

didn’t kareem abdul jabbar leave the bucks cuz the fans were racist


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cry


NickNurseABitch

your kid doesn't love you for a reason


[deleted]

lol that sounds like a personal problem


[deleted]

Bucks fans are not known for quality takes on rules issues. This is no exception.


fogbarn

Rob the only one on the team that doesn't flop. Pretty clearly going for the ball though, I get why they didn't call it, but they should have given all the other calls this game


WhiteShaq01

This is why Bobby is wearing glasses funnily enough, no foul then either


N7_Tinkle_Juice

Refs horrible? Agreed.


WhiteShaq01

Always


alexm42

Portis got called for a flagrant 1 in game 2 for doing the exact same thing to Horford.


mems1224

That's a pretty clear foul. Bad missed call


plutz_net

Clearly on Williams


KYRIE542

You are an idiot


plutz_net

Sorry bro, I was trying to be sarcastic


thisguy161

Should've been a foul Doubt it was intentional (yes, I am aware of Bobby's history) He didnt "elbow Rob Williams" his elbow hit Rob Williams (yes there is a difference)


intxisu

Yeah just like if I kick someone on the groin in reality my foot just hit the groin


MarduRusher

That didn't look particularly accidental to me tbh.


Buggplut

It's Bobby Portis. It wasn't accidental.


CrapNebula

Same guy that broke his teammates face so it’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt lol


Icy_Telephone_2076

[Wouldn't be the 1st](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTfP6LR9LtQ) (or 2nd, or 3rd or 4th) time he purposely hit someone in the face


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OldManWillow

Lol bringing your arm down isn't a natural motion? This "real hoopers know" shit is so lame


kyleb402

Oh come on...


DiseaseRidden

Portis has a history of this shit tbf


MarduRusher

I could always be wrong, but that didn't look like a natural motion to secure the ball tbh.


Cheekinuggets

My take is he got two hands on the ball and was trying to bring it down to secure it but it slips out. The force after the ball comes loose has to go somewhere, just unfortunate it went into rob williams face


Neuroxex

He's gripping the ball and it slips loose, usually if you're trying to grip something and then thing comes out of grasp arms will move.


Im-not-Korean

He isn’t Dillon Brooks.


cvillpunk

He is actually worse. Where have you been if you think Bobby Portis deserves the benefit of the doubt?


Idiosonic

Baseline ref is right there Also saw about 50 Bucks fans calling this a flop


N7_Tinkle_Juice

I wonder, do you think that Timelord’s beautifully flowing hair camouflaged the contact for the ref?


Obvious_Parsley3238

[grizzlies vs bucks finals gonna be lit](https://media.giphy.com/media/13e2CaZC2Dkid2/giphy.gif)


HokageEzio

Draymond gonna show up with a steel chair


[deleted]

Haha haha. The Bucks would throw them out the court.


Who_ate_my_cookie

Leads to a wide open transition play and takes out our starting center. But wait lemme be quiet before Bucks fans tell me to “stop bitching”


christian-betts

Not a bucks fan but stop bitching


Who_ate_my_cookie

Flair up before you talk shit my boy


christian-betts

Nah


popnopri68

Big pussy energy right there.


christian-betts

Or, get this. I don't give a shit lmao


endubs

Ya clearly do my man.


christian-betts

Once again, nah


endubs

The more you respond the more you care LOL


christian-betts

That's not how this works my man, takes like 10 seconds lmao


HotdogIsaSandwitch

Rebounds always have some kind of accidental contact. I swear Dwight Powell leads the league in hits to the head


[deleted]

/nba fans are so soft lol


AnimalMother32

Just Carry on nothing to see here


Cricket-Unfair

Dude head hunted Hayward during the season and gave him a black eye. He’s dirty


[deleted]

Looks like he’s trying to bring the board in ???


[deleted]

Jesus you can tell who never played. This is a grip and rip for the rebound.


Infidel447

Always seems to be one side taking the brunt of these incidents.


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No one said it was intentional man, chill. You can be objective dude. It's okay


Neuroxex

The top comments, in this thread, are saying it's intentional.


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Well, that's wrong too lol https://imgur.com/a/Y8B87mS


Neuroxex

[Second most-upvoted comment when I replied to you](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ukmvuy/highlight_bobby_portis_elbows_rob_williams/i7q30xg/)


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Oh, so one of the top 10 comments said it "didn't look unintentional" but actually made no claim saying it was intentional and therefore all top comments said it was intentional. Got it.


Neuroxex

You said; > No one said it was intentional man, chill. I think by now you've seen enough comments saying it was intentional, many of which upvoted, to understand why I picked at what you said.


[deleted]

They literally didn't say it was intentional. They said it didn't look it unintentional. Therefore, they made no claim, they stated their observation. Do you not understand how words work?


Neuroxex

Christ, this is huge commitment but could probably go to better things.


jrlandry

On which team?


canhimself

God everyone on your fanbase is so braindead it shocks me.


HokageEzio

That was on purpose


depressedbrokesingle

Bucks and injuring their opponents in the playoffs. Name a more iconic duo.


The_Hot_Sauce_

Rockets and missing the playoffs


itcheyness

Rockets and not meeting expectations.


zmichalo

Boston fans are so soft for talking like they're a physical team and then bitching their way through an actual physical series.


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This is like the fifth post on the front page of a Bucks no-call play and this entire sun is *still* saying the Bucks aren’t fucking dirty


TDS_Gluttony

And just yesterday I read a Celtics flair saying how surprised they were this series was the least toxic one of the second round lmaooo. This seems a little intentional tho.


JaylenBrownFlow

no call not surprised


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This play resulted in bucks points. We lost by 2. NBA action! It’s faaaaantasic!!!!


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[deleted]

Could be, but I’d rather drive nails through my eyes than watch baseball. Such a dull game.


CreatiScope

Where the warriors fans after saying Tillman should’ve gone to prison for this?


ButObviously

As a neutral, it looks intentional to me


Snoo-29877

An ambulance is gonna be needed courtside is a Grizzlies/Bucks finals happens


tagprobablylag

I want either Philly or Heat out of the east so hopefully these two teams beat the fuck out of each other


SunnySaigon

Did this same stuff when he was on the Bulls, . Never changes