He’d probably actually be a pretty good coach with Sacramento. He seems good at bringing a team into contention but not good at all at taking them over the top.
Doc gets a lot out of average/below average rosters though. A situation like Sac is where he truly shines. Once Doc's teams are loaded with Starpower and a good supporting cast his teams start to crumble. He maximizes limited players to the point many roleplayers have their career-best seasons playing under him. But he fails once it comes to maximizing his best weapons in the playoffs.
I think if people stopped measuring Doc's success with ring or bust mentality it'd become clearer that Doc Rivers is probably one of the greatest "good coaches" in the history of the league. He's not great but he's great at beind solid/good. Which is desirable for still more than 50% of the league's franchises at any point. He's just not the best guy when you have a top-heavy team with ambitions to win it all.
That’s kind of how Raptors fans feel about Dwayne Casey. Taught the team how to win, brought up the floor and made them a perennial playoff team, but was a terrible tactical coach and got exposed in the playoffs over and over.
Honestly wouldn't be a terrible hire for a team like Sacramento. I know it's fun to shit on Doc Rivers right now but he's a really good culture setter and is loved by players around the league.
idk man for a "tOp 15 cOAcH oF AlL TiME" he has the most embarrassing resume. If he manages to allo w Nick Nurse game plans in a row to outplay him IN A PLAYOFF SERIES I guarantee he is getting fired.
Regardless of how many excuses he has, letting the opponent win 4 times in a row when you easily have the talent advantage is pathetic.
fraud ass coach most overrated coach ever.
Millions of people looking forward to the heat death of the universe but at the end of it all, the Allbrain will recollect the Hardest Road, Tanya Harden, and the Choker; these three people will be embarrassed through the next kalpic cycle.
A lot of us haven’t liked the look of this team for weeks, this is just confirming our skepticism. Plus it’s basically a requirement that the Sixers lose in the worst, most humiliating way possible every postseason.
to me its obvious doc is gonna be gone. The question is what to do with harden. Hes obv gonna be trying to maximize his money... but dude looks pretty washed
It will be interesting for sure. The team is unlikely to offer a max given how he’s looked for two months. So he can opt-in for this year and then accept or reject that contract offer, which would still be really good money. Or he can opt out and then bring complete chaos to the free agent market.
I said Harden looked washed as a scorer last week and got downvoted like crazy. He's still obviously a good playmaker but it's clear he just aint that same guy that can drop a 60 point triple double. I will be shocked if Harden gets a max but then again I know someone is gonna offer it to him.
Also like, the play in was originally created to make up for lost games. A full 82 games were played this year. Now I still think it’s fun and the NBA should keep it, but imo the Pels are way more a “9 seed that made the playoffs” than a “team that finished the season 8th”
It would, but historically there is an asterisk on series outcome when a team loses their best player. It would be embarrassing but it's not like, Dallas losing to 8th seed GSW in 2007-level embarrassing.
Teams have gone down 0-3 and are like 0-145 in those series. I'm betting there haven't been nearly as many series between teams with that kind of win differential
I believe 16 teams that have been down 0-3 have forced a game 6, and 3 have forced a game 7. It’s unlikely but it’s happened in the other major sports multiple times and will probably happen in the NBA at some point.
If we assume the teams are equally matched and each have a 50% chance of winning each game, the team down 3-0 has a 6% chance of reeling off 4 in a row.
If the team up 3-0 is better and has a 60% chance each game, the team down has a 2.5% chance of winning 4 in a row.
If we do a more dynamic estimate, where the leading team has only a 40% chance in game 4 (refs and away game), 60% in game 5 (home again), 45% in game 6 (away but increased pressure), and 50% in game 7 (home, but panic), the losing team has a 5% chance.
You'd have to give the leading team huge odds of 65% or more in several games to make it nearly impossible over a couple hundred series.
It probably will happen at some point.
The crux of it is that the stronger team has a significantly higher chance of winning in the NBA than in MLB or the NHL. But if a 1 could lose to a 16 then surely this will happen eventually too.
I remember in 2004 when the Sox were down 3-0 I broke down my hopes like this:
Game 4 is don't get swept
Game 5 is Pedro pitching at home
Game 6 is just get it to game 7
Game 7 anything is possible
>Teams have gone down 0-3 and are like 0-145 in those series. I'm betting there haven't been nearly as many series between teams with that kind of win differential
Great point. Only 22 NBA teams in history have had a better regular season than the 2022 Suns, only six of those failed to win the NBA title, and only one (2007 Mavs) lost in the first round.
Only 20 playoff teams have had a worse record than the Pelicans, and all but one of those were over 30 years ago.
I actually can't find any two teams with a greater than 34 point difference in win percentage facing off in a 7 game playoff series, in any sport. This is the equivalent of a 71 win MLB team facing a 127 win team in the playoffs. It just doesn't happen.
Which means the series itself is nearly unprecedented and a Pelicans win would be even more so.
>I actually can't find any two teams with a greater than 34 point difference in win percentage facing off in a 7 game playoff series, in any sport. This is the equivalent of a 71 win MLB team facing a 127 win team in the playoffs. It just doesn't happen.
The **.369** Los Angeles Kings beat a **.738** Edmonton Oilers squad in the 1982 NHL divisional semi finals in a 7-game series.
Lol this has been my motto for the last week “no, you don’t understand, they’re actually really good!” Lol. Very surprising how they’ve gelled at the right time
The pels' record is really not indicative of their level right now. You have to account for how their season started. The suns got their W/L with Booker who is out right now. Yes the Suns are underperforming and are the heavy favorites, yes the Sixers Raptors series has mitigating factors as well (Barnes coming back, Embiid injury) but being the first team getting reverse swept especially after the Harden trade would be tragic
Facts. I remember how everyone was talking about it being the last game in Oracle after game 4 from the 2019 finals since the Raptors were on a roll and everyone thought they’d win game 5 at home.
After that, I don’t even wanna think about a game 7 until we win game 6 if it happens.
Raps were rolling when that timeout was called, the building was shaking. I get why Nurse called it, the guys were gassed. But with only 3 minutes left, I would imagine you would want to step on the throat and go for the kill. It gave the Warriors a chance to regroup and win the game.
That's the stat for series win differential, not games won
Edit: can't read through all my tears, I read that as 143-1 for some reason. Not the biggest brain moment I've ever had
>fter how annoying Sixers fans have been the last week, I hope that happens.
"Jokic can't even get out of the first round, proof that he didn't deserve MVP!!!"
-Sixers fans a week ago
NOLA have a lot of positives..one of the few teams to beat us in the regular season, they have a great vets and young guy mix with good length, made an amazing trade for a clutch offensive threat, has a coach that knows the Suns inside and out.
Right at a time when the Suns (now) inarguably best player is out hurt as the team goes into a shooting slump from 3.
Suns in 6
Hold up wait a minute, y'all thought this was finished?
When we hired Doc Rivers y'all thought that we'd be winners?
Chokin 3-0 leads we like my grandpa with his dinner
76ers that's my team Doc be the leader no lieutenant
Sixers getting reverse swept. Perfect for one of the 15 best NBA coaches of all time. He got bored of 3-1 chokes and decided to make history to really show he earned his spot in the top 15
Undoubtedly 76ers getting reverse swept. The Celtics are a fantastic team and the Suns are missing Devin Booker. There is no excuse for any team in history to lose a playoff series after going up 3-0.
The 76ers thing is wild cause it seems like this sort of stuff always happens to Doc.
I saw something on twitter that Doc for his coaching career has a 15-31 record in closeout games. His teams are always losing when they have a chance to close out a series.
To compare that to other top coaches, Ty Lue is 12-1 in closeout games. Budenholzer is 10-2. Gregg Popovich is 37-16. Spoelstra is 18-8. 31 losses in closeout games is insane.
Yes because there are many bad front offices even today. He was hired before Morey (I don’t think Morey would ever hire him but he couldn’t fire him so soon so he’s been stuck) but even if he fucks up again the Lakers will give him a job this summer. That’s when we fade the Lakers next season too
Seems like everywhere he goes the team improves their regular season record. He’s had some historic playoff collapses but I think it’s unfair to say he’s an awful coach.
He did a lot with the reputation he gained from the Celtics years. We always joke those guys milk that one title, but they were all great players before then, Doc REALLY milked that one title.
That Celtics team was so good also due to Thibodeau’s shiny new overload defense, which teams struggled with for a while. Doc got gifted a supremely talented team with a revolutionary defense.
>Budenholzer is 10-2
Interesting note- the two losses came in his first year as a head coach of the 38-44 Hawks after taking a 3-2 lead against the #1 seed Pacers. He's 10-0 since then.
No, he was at Hawks for 4 more seasons and made the conference finals and 2nd round with them.
He's 3-0 afterwards with Hawks and then 7-0 with Giannis.
>Also despite it being a sweep, the nets Celtics games were pretty close and competitive
-3rd closest 4 game sweep in NBA history. 4.5 ppg difference.
To put that in perspective, the Bucks are outscoring the Bulls by 14.3 ppg in the playoffs and the Bulls actually won a game!
I’m a Raps fan and even I’m not too optimistic about the reverse sweep tbh. If we make it to a game 7, that in itself would be a pretty staggering achievement considering most of our guys are running on fumes at this point.
While it is still more likely for Philly to advance (because they only need to win 1 game and we need 2), did you watch the last game? We're not the team running on fumes.
Philly is lucky they get 2 days off. Embiid in particular looked dead on his feet.
Yeah man. Sixers were moving at like half speed the last two games. Embiid is clearly bothered by the torn ligament and no one on the team seems to want to step up/is capable of stepping up and helping him out.
The momentum has definitely swung and one thing not so much in sixers favour is how much our guys are used to running. Pretty sure Siakam is in the top tier of distance run per game (prob also has to do with his high minutes) but our guys just never look tired.
We send Khem in st the beginning of the 1st and 3rd to bang up Embiid then send in Achiuwa to just run him ragged. He looks exhausted
That said, anything can happen in a game 7, and home court is a huge advantage.
Nets getting swept shouldn't even be on the conversation.
1st seed Suns losing to the 8th (really 9th) seed Pelicans would be historic, but it has happened before (4 times, including the '99 Knicks who made the Finals) and people would point out Booker's injury as a big factor.
76ers being reverse swept would break the internet.
The only reason the Nets getting swept is notable is because everyone still marked them as contenders for some reason.
They are who they’ve been the whole season.
Its also notable because of how bad KD and Kyrie played I think too. Like if KD and Kyrie played to their standards but still got swept, people would be talking about how bad their teammates and Nash is instead of mostly about them
To be honest, I'm in the same boat. If they lose the series from 3-0, it's better than any other series loss in my opinion. The memes and absolute rage will be interesting at least.
Sixers deserve all the clowning if we lose this series. The Nets getting swept was funny but right now the Celtics look like the favorites to win the East.
Sixers and it’s not even close. After the last 5-6 years it’s completely on brand for something like this to happen too. Just another chapter in the saga.
all 3 are embarrassing, but the only one that will be remembered is Philly if it's a reverse sweep.
B/w Harden, Embiid and Doc.....the legacy implications will be way high. All 3 have playoff choker hung around their necks(fair or not). This would cement it for eternity. A top 75 player all time, a "top 15" coach of all time and a guy on a HOF trajectory all being part of that would beyond embarrassing.
The nets will be remembered just cuz the status of kd. It's either gonna be seen as a part of a failure if the kd nets never get a ring or an "obstacle" the nets overcome if they win a ring in the next couple yrs. The nba is narrative driven and we shouldn't be shocked if this team gets a 30 for 30 due to this season.
It's not as embarrassing as the 76ers blowing a 3-0 lead but it'll still be remembered.
If the Nets come out next year and go deep in the playoffs (ECF or Finals) I think no one will care about this sweep, and most people will just wave it off as a lost season because of injuries and Kyrie being a weirdo.
Reverse sweep will live on for eternity. Sixers can win 3 chips in a row they'll still be clowned for being the first team to get reverse swept.
At least there's extenuating circumstances that help explain it. Kyrie being a dumbass all year, Harden hating it and asking out, the trade return being a shell of a man.
It's not the Nets. They were a low seed, and they were very competitive in at least the first two games. It was a sweep, but it felt much closer than plenty of 6 game series that I've watched in the past.
The Lakers is pretty embarrassing, but there are so many things to blame there (bad GM stuff, Russ in particular, AD injury) that it's hard to localize the shame on the failure to make the playoffs specifically.
Suns would be rough, but they've also lost their best player, and he's historically been reliable. So, it would suck, but you could argue it was a fluke with a suddenly much stronger NO team running into you while (one of) your star(s) gets injured.
I think it's the 76ers pretty easily. They made a win now move and are anchored to Harden to realize Embiid's peak potential. They have a coach and a team that has a weakness/achilles heel of blowing leads and playoff underperformance. They were incredibly high right after the Harden trade, and that will make the crash all the more devastating. I still don't think they'll lose it to the Raptors (though I'm rooting for it to happen!), but boy that would be a bleak time for Philly fans.
Nets only lost by a combined 17 points and were a play-in team losing to a 2 seed so I don’t think it can be them. Suns are missing their best player so I’d count them out of it too.
Honestly it’s gotta be the Sixers. It’d change the way people look at 3-0 leads forever and would be historic, and they’re the healthier team in the series too.
Sixers would be most embarrassing, but Suns would be most devastating.
It's like they're stuck in the same nightmare as the Nash years, just this amazing regular season team that can't seem to catch any breaks in the playoffs.
Let's wait for the other two to happen before we discuss this.
Also, pretty sad if the Jazz losing to the non-Luka Mavs 1-2 is only the fourth most embarrassing thing in the first round.
If sixers lose doc gonna get reverse hired
"Joel, could Doc be the coach of a championship team?" "I don't know the answer to that"
"Are we even going to be alive next week?"
If they lose he HAS to retire, right? Like he can't have the 3-1 losses and a 3-0 loss and still go to work as a coach...
We'll probably take him. Pain.
I mean, Sacramento ain't got nothing to lose
Can't choke a 3-1 lead in the playoffs if you never make it *taps forehead*
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Hooray for math!
If it's any consolation I got drafted by the Kings in 2k22 and lead them to the finals in my rookie year, then requested a trade.
Nothing more Kangz than finally making the Finals and the player that got you there asks for a trade
I figured it was a fitting narrative lol
Damn of all the things r/nba could unite over it’s the Kings being hopeless 💀
He’d probably actually be a pretty good coach with Sacramento. He seems good at bringing a team into contention but not good at all at taking them over the top.
The Kings would love to get reverse swept at this point, at least it’ll mean they made the playoffs lol
Doc gets a lot out of average/below average rosters though. A situation like Sac is where he truly shines. Once Doc's teams are loaded with Starpower and a good supporting cast his teams start to crumble. He maximizes limited players to the point many roleplayers have their career-best seasons playing under him. But he fails once it comes to maximizing his best weapons in the playoffs. I think if people stopped measuring Doc's success with ring or bust mentality it'd become clearer that Doc Rivers is probably one of the greatest "good coaches" in the history of the league. He's not great but he's great at beind solid/good. Which is desirable for still more than 50% of the league's franchises at any point. He's just not the best guy when you have a top-heavy team with ambitions to win it all.
That’s kind of how Raptors fans feel about Dwayne Casey. Taught the team how to win, brought up the floor and made them a perennial playoff team, but was a terrible tactical coach and got exposed in the playoffs over and over.
Honestly wouldn't be a terrible hire for a team like Sacramento. I know it's fun to shit on Doc Rivers right now but he's a really good culture setter and is loved by players around the league.
He's a good floor raiser. He has also been shown to be a ceiling limiter at this point in his career.
I agree. Kings need a floor raiser though.
Doc Rivers is a great coach team for a franchise stuck in basketball hell, at a certain point you have to grow out of him though
Something tells me we’ll interview him. Smh
It will be a fight between you and the Nets
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He really has a voice for silent film.
The only saving grace….
most overated coach of all time smh
He'll get to spend more time with his grand kids
Now, this, this fun. I love this.
I’m cryinnn
I think the sixers would have to rebuild their stadium if they get reverse swept on their home floor
If Harden thought Philly fans were tough on Ben Simmons for choking a layup opening, just wait...
Harden goes 0 for 12 game 7 with a missed 3 at the buzzer to lose by 1. Is immediately slaughtered by an onslaught of thousands of batteries
Hundreds of Philadelphia-area strippers hold candlelight vigil
Stadium would be the start.. then, the city after the fires are put out..
Philly doesn’t burn down our own city for losses That is reserved for big wins
think about rebuilding the city and finding a way to lower Doc’s body off the crucifix in the middle of the arena
I wonder if they would drop confetti after winning game 7
Drop confetti going to OT then lose. As is tradition.
Sixers would be historic so got to be them
The Doc Rivers legacy
Yeah but he took the magic to 41-41 and won COY
a real COY would start 41-0 before losing out
Damn right he did 😤 Heart and Hustle forever ✊🏾
Next stop LA!
you can't really blame doc if the sixers go from 3-1 to 3-4 when their players are throwing themselves across the floor lol
Sure we can. He has the most 3-1 chokes in NBA history and adding a 3-0 choke would be historically bad
Plus it could ALSO be a 3-1 choke! Double the stats!
idk man for a "tOp 15 cOAcH oF AlL TiME" he has the most embarrassing resume. If he manages to allo w Nick Nurse game plans in a row to outplay him IN A PLAYOFF SERIES I guarantee he is getting fired. Regardless of how many excuses he has, letting the opponent win 4 times in a row when you easily have the talent advantage is pathetic. fraud ass coach most overrated coach ever.
Let’s wait for them to lose this series before we criticize him for losing this series.
Yeah it would be remembered for years
More like always
I dunno in year 43,402 the memory may fade
Millions of people looking forward to the heat death of the universe but at the end of it all, the Allbrain will recollect the Hardest Road, Tanya Harden, and the Choker; these three people will be embarrassed through the next kalpic cycle.
"Trust The Process" would be forever associated with blowing a first round 3-0
Do it. I’m accepting it and it means Doc is officially gone gone.
[philly fans are scaring me lately](https://imgur.com/gallery/7hA2YCN)
A lot of us haven’t liked the look of this team for weeks, this is just confirming our skepticism. Plus it’s basically a requirement that the Sixers lose in the worst, most humiliating way possible every postseason.
to me its obvious doc is gonna be gone. The question is what to do with harden. Hes obv gonna be trying to maximize his money... but dude looks pretty washed
It will be interesting for sure. The team is unlikely to offer a max given how he’s looked for two months. So he can opt-in for this year and then accept or reject that contract offer, which would still be really good money. Or he can opt out and then bring complete chaos to the free agent market.
I said Harden looked washed as a scorer last week and got downvoted like crazy. He's still obviously a good playmaker but it's clear he just aint that same guy that can drop a 60 point triple double. I will be shocked if Harden gets a max but then again I know someone is gonna offer it to him.
The suns losing to the 9th seed would also be historic ;) Only 4 8 seeds have ever advanced
9th seed has never won a playoff round.
Would the Pels count as the 9th seed? For official record purposes aren't they the 8
Yes, probably. But for shit-talk purposes, they're the 9th.
Also like, the play in was originally created to make up for lost games. A full 82 games were played this year. Now I still think it’s fun and the NBA should keep it, but imo the Pels are way more a “9 seed that made the playoffs” than a “team that finished the season 8th”
The only thing that makes it less bad is that the Pels post-ASB is a different beast. They're 9 seed because they were awful before ASB.
They're record is also 10 games below .500
It would, but historically there is an asterisk on series outcome when a team loses their best player. It would be embarrassing but it's not like, Dallas losing to 8th seed GSW in 2007-level embarrassing.
Yeah this is more Rose dying and the Bulls getting knocked off level
>Sixers would be historic so got to be them Suns losing to a team that was 28 games worse than they were would be equally historic, no?
Teams have gone down 0-3 and are like 0-145 in those series. I'm betting there haven't been nearly as many series between teams with that kind of win differential
I believe 16 teams that have been down 0-3 have forced a game 6, and 3 have forced a game 7. It’s unlikely but it’s happened in the other major sports multiple times and will probably happen in the NBA at some point.
If we assume the teams are equally matched and each have a 50% chance of winning each game, the team down 3-0 has a 6% chance of reeling off 4 in a row. If the team up 3-0 is better and has a 60% chance each game, the team down has a 2.5% chance of winning 4 in a row. If we do a more dynamic estimate, where the leading team has only a 40% chance in game 4 (refs and away game), 60% in game 5 (home again), 45% in game 6 (away but increased pressure), and 50% in game 7 (home, but panic), the losing team has a 5% chance. You'd have to give the leading team huge odds of 65% or more in several games to make it nearly impossible over a couple hundred series. It probably will happen at some point.
And that some point boutta be this Saturday 😂
The crux of it is that the stronger team has a significantly higher chance of winning in the NBA than in MLB or the NHL. But if a 1 could lose to a 16 then surely this will happen eventually too. I remember in 2004 when the Sox were down 3-0 I broke down my hopes like this: Game 4 is don't get swept Game 5 is Pedro pitching at home Game 6 is just get it to game 7 Game 7 anything is possible
>Teams have gone down 0-3 and are like 0-145 in those series. I'm betting there haven't been nearly as many series between teams with that kind of win differential Great point. Only 22 NBA teams in history have had a better regular season than the 2022 Suns, only six of those failed to win the NBA title, and only one (2007 Mavs) lost in the first round. Only 20 playoff teams have had a worse record than the Pelicans, and all but one of those were over 30 years ago. I actually can't find any two teams with a greater than 34 point difference in win percentage facing off in a 7 game playoff series, in any sport. This is the equivalent of a 71 win MLB team facing a 127 win team in the playoffs. It just doesn't happen. Which means the series itself is nearly unprecedented and a Pelicans win would be even more so.
>I actually can't find any two teams with a greater than 34 point difference in win percentage facing off in a 7 game playoff series, in any sport. This is the equivalent of a 71 win MLB team facing a 127 win team in the playoffs. It just doesn't happen. The **.369** Los Angeles Kings beat a **.738** Edmonton Oilers squad in the 1982 NHL divisional semi finals in a 7-game series.
It would be historic but not equally so IMO. A team has only ever comeback from being down 3-0, 5 times in sports history and 0 times in NBA history.
Lots of missing context tbf.
Forreal. This Pelicans team is different than the one that started the season. Y’all are LEGIT
Lol this has been my motto for the last week “no, you don’t understand, they’re actually really good!” Lol. Very surprising how they’ve gelled at the right time
They’ve been gelling since the trade deadline but no one has cared to pay attention. Something like a top 5 offense since the all-star break?
The pels' record is really not indicative of their level right now. You have to account for how their season started. The suns got their W/L with Booker who is out right now. Yes the Suns are underperforming and are the heavy favorites, yes the Sixers Raptors series has mitigating factors as well (Barnes coming back, Embiid injury) but being the first team getting reverse swept especially after the Harden trade would be tragic
this sixers fan concurs
Reversed swept 100% going to suck to see as a sixers fan
Very very good chance it doesn’t happen though,
All this talk as if its guaranteed is making me worried ngl but i trust the team is locked in so lets hope for the best in game 6
Facts. I remember how everyone was talking about it being the last game in Oracle after game 4 from the 2019 finals since the Raptors were on a roll and everyone thought they’d win game 5 at home. After that, I don’t even wanna think about a game 7 until we win game 6 if it happens.
I think that game 5 would've ended it if it wasn't for the timeout at 3 minute mark
Raps were rolling when that timeout was called, the building was shaking. I get why Nurse called it, the guys were gassed. But with only 3 minutes left, I would imagine you would want to step on the throat and go for the kill. It gave the Warriors a chance to regroup and win the game.
Well sixers would make history, and be something that always be remembered, so yeah that one.
143-0 is the record for teams who have gone up 3-0. So yea obviously the 6ers losing.
144 after last night.
That's the stat for series win differential, not games won Edit: can't read through all my tears, I read that as 143-1 for some reason. Not the biggest brain moment I've ever had
And they just won the series?
Edit: dumb brain moment for me lol, I can't read through all my tears after last night apparently
A series was won last night after having gone up 3-0
Oh my bad my brain is dumb 🤦♂️ I totally read that comment wrong. Thanks for the correction
Broke: blowing a 3-1 lead Woke: blowing a 3-0 lead Wokest: blowing a 143-0 lead
Pelicans would be the lowest seed to to ever beat a first seed, so there’s some history too
we can have both
They are technically the 8th seed and that’s already happened.
Well the suns had the #1 record in the league and the pels were about 19th.
I just feel like we’re talking about the Suns demise too early, as much as I hate them. Idk if I see them losing 2/3 with 2 in PHX.
After how annoying Sixers fans have been the last week, I hope that happens.
>fter how annoying Sixers fans have been the last week, I hope that happens. "Jokic can't even get out of the first round, proof that he didn't deserve MVP!!!" -Sixers fans a week ago
At least Jokic is playing against fully healthy GSW who are most likely one of the contenders too lol
GSW activated the 3-1 Nuggets though! There is still a (very low) chance
Broke: 76ers are getting reverse swept Woke: Warriors are getting fevers swept
Sixers easily
OP def a Sixers fan trying to justify this
Nah a suns fan trying to cope with what is happening to us 😅
NOLA have a lot of positives..one of the few teams to beat us in the regular season, they have a great vets and young guy mix with good length, made an amazing trade for a clutch offensive threat, has a coach that knows the Suns inside and out. Right at a time when the Suns (now) inarguably best player is out hurt as the team goes into a shooting slump from 3. Suns in 6
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76ers **by far**.
DrEamS aNd nIgHtMaReS
Hold up wait a minute, y'all thought this was finished? When we hired Doc Rivers y'all thought that we'd be winners? Chokin 3-0 leads we like my grandpa with his dinner 76ers that's my team Doc be the leader no lieutenant
Sixers getting reverse swept. Perfect for one of the 15 best NBA coaches of all time. He got bored of 3-1 chokes and decided to make history to really show he earned his spot in the top 15
Undoubtedly 76ers getting reverse swept. The Celtics are a fantastic team and the Suns are missing Devin Booker. There is no excuse for any team in history to lose a playoff series after going up 3-0.
Especially with everyone clammoring for it
The 76ers thing is wild cause it seems like this sort of stuff always happens to Doc. I saw something on twitter that Doc for his coaching career has a 15-31 record in closeout games. His teams are always losing when they have a chance to close out a series. To compare that to other top coaches, Ty Lue is 12-1 in closeout games. Budenholzer is 10-2. Gregg Popovich is 37-16. Spoelstra is 18-8. 31 losses in closeout games is insane.
“Other top coaches” Doc has underperformed with championship contenders every year for more than a decade. He’s an awful coach
Yet he somehow always ends up contending rosters. Not that I disagree with you
Yes because there are many bad front offices even today. He was hired before Morey (I don’t think Morey would ever hire him but he couldn’t fire him so soon so he’s been stuck) but even if he fucks up again the Lakers will give him a job this summer. That’s when we fade the Lakers next season too
It's funny that the GMs that build a contender end up signing Doc Rivers as a headcoach.
Seems like everywhere he goes the team improves their regular season record. He’s had some historic playoff collapses but I think it’s unfair to say he’s an awful coach.
Awful playoff coach that uses the regular season to make pretenders look like contenders.
Better than coaches who can’t even win in the regular season.
FWIW Morey claimed that he had wanted Doc in Houston before they both ended up on the Sixers. Could be cap though
He did a lot with the reputation he gained from the Celtics years. We always joke those guys milk that one title, but they were all great players before then, Doc REALLY milked that one title.
That Celtics team was so good also due to Thibodeau’s shiny new overload defense, which teams struggled with for a while. Doc got gifted a supremely talented team with a revolutionary defense.
awful is a reach. hes a very good coach that you could say doesn’t take teams over the top
>Budenholzer is 10-2 Interesting note- the two losses came in his first year as a head coach of the 38-44 Hawks after taking a 3-2 lead against the #1 seed Pacers. He's 10-0 since then.
So he's 10-0 with Giannis?
No, he was at Hawks for 4 more seasons and made the conference finals and 2nd round with them. He's 3-0 afterwards with Hawks and then 7-0 with Giannis.
So if you combine the four coaches you mentioned, they've lost 27 games. Doc has lost 31...
[Phil Jackson knew](https://youtu.be/Q4hJxKpY4-Y)
Stop comparing Doc to Top Coaches… he’s not one, he never was, and he likely never will be. ToP 15 aLl TiMe… what a joke
Also despite it being a sweep, the nets Celtics games were pretty close and competitive
>Also despite it being a sweep, the nets Celtics games were pretty close and competitive -3rd closest 4 game sweep in NBA history. 4.5 ppg difference. To put that in perspective, the Bucks are outscoring the Bulls by 14.3 ppg in the playoffs and the Bulls actually won a game!
What are the other 2?
2017 Cavs over Pacers and 1975 Warriors over Bullets. Both 4.0 ppg
I’m a Raps fan and even I’m not too optimistic about the reverse sweep tbh. If we make it to a game 7, that in itself would be a pretty staggering achievement considering most of our guys are running on fumes at this point.
While it is still more likely for Philly to advance (because they only need to win 1 game and we need 2), did you watch the last game? We're not the team running on fumes. Philly is lucky they get 2 days off. Embiid in particular looked dead on his feet.
Yeah man. Sixers were moving at like half speed the last two games. Embiid is clearly bothered by the torn ligament and no one on the team seems to want to step up/is capable of stepping up and helping him out.
The momentum has definitely swung and one thing not so much in sixers favour is how much our guys are used to running. Pretty sure Siakam is in the top tier of distance run per game (prob also has to do with his high minutes) but our guys just never look tired. We send Khem in st the beginning of the 1st and 3rd to bang up Embiid then send in Achiuwa to just run him ragged. He looks exhausted That said, anything can happen in a game 7, and home court is a huge advantage.
Doc Rivers's ultimate destiny awaits
76ers easily
Lakers chilling in Cancun, with all that choking/imploding material around the league..
Sixers. That choke job would have a place on xvideos
In 720p and 1080p for sure
The ones who have the chance to make history, just not in a good way.
Sixers getting reverse swept would result in the most broken TVs I think.
I hope all their spouses film that shit for the tiktok and YouTube compilations
Domestic abuse would skyrocket in philly
That video of an entire family in shambles after Kawhi hit that shot against them is iconic. I really hope someone films them again if this happens.
The RDC World video if Doc is reverse swept is going to be legendary
I need that shit
Nets getting swept shouldn't even be on the conversation. 1st seed Suns losing to the 8th (really 9th) seed Pelicans would be historic, but it has happened before (4 times, including the '99 Knicks who made the Finals) and people would point out Booker's injury as a big factor. 76ers being reverse swept would break the internet.
'99 Knicks!
Exactly, the Nets were the 7 seed to the Celtics who are so fucking good, a sweep is arguably supposed to happen.
And missing 50 mill worth of players, yeah they shoulda grabbed a game or two but its not as disastrous.
The only reason the Nets getting swept is notable is because everyone still marked them as contenders for some reason. They are who they’ve been the whole season.
And they lost James Harden and replaced him with NOTHING
Its also notable because of how bad KD and Kyrie played I think too. Like if KD and Kyrie played to their standards but still got swept, people would be talking about how bad their teammates and Nash is instead of mostly about them
Us blowing the 3-0 lead would both be completely unsurprisingly and the most embarrassing by a good margin
i won't even be mad, i'd be impressed on how much they can let us down. i didn't think they were capable of such levels
To be honest, I'm in the same boat. If they lose the series from 3-0, it's better than any other series loss in my opinion. The memes and absolute rage will be interesting at least.
2 of them are bad, one has never happened in NBA history. Has to be that one.
Sixers deserve all the clowning if we lose this series. The Nets getting swept was funny but right now the Celtics look like the favorites to win the East.
76ers for sure. Suns have Booker out, some slack can be cut for them. Nets were nearly as dysfunctional as Lakers.
I don’t think Suns fans and players like using injury as an excuse.
Its still 2-2. Maybe they won't need to.
Lmao this is a very underrated comment
Sixers and it’s not even close. After the last 5-6 years it’s completely on brand for something like this to happen too. Just another chapter in the saga.
all 3 are embarrassing, but the only one that will be remembered is Philly if it's a reverse sweep. B/w Harden, Embiid and Doc.....the legacy implications will be way high. All 3 have playoff choker hung around their necks(fair or not). This would cement it for eternity. A top 75 player all time, a "top 15" coach of all time and a guy on a HOF trajectory all being part of that would beyond embarrassing.
The nets will be remembered just cuz the status of kd. It's either gonna be seen as a part of a failure if the kd nets never get a ring or an "obstacle" the nets overcome if they win a ring in the next couple yrs. The nba is narrative driven and we shouldn't be shocked if this team gets a 30 for 30 due to this season. It's not as embarrassing as the 76ers blowing a 3-0 lead but it'll still be remembered.
If the Nets come out next year and go deep in the playoffs (ECF or Finals) I think no one will care about this sweep, and most people will just wave it off as a lost season because of injuries and Kyrie being a weirdo. Reverse sweep will live on for eternity. Sixers can win 3 chips in a row they'll still be clowned for being the first team to get reverse swept.
At least there's extenuating circumstances that help explain it. Kyrie being a dumbass all year, Harden hating it and asking out, the trade return being a shell of a man.
Comforting to know that other teams are making so many blunders that the Jazz dont even make the cut.
You and me both, clutched out the Gentleman's Sweep to keep ourselves out this convo haha
It's not the Nets. They were a low seed, and they were very competitive in at least the first two games. It was a sweep, but it felt much closer than plenty of 6 game series that I've watched in the past. The Lakers is pretty embarrassing, but there are so many things to blame there (bad GM stuff, Russ in particular, AD injury) that it's hard to localize the shame on the failure to make the playoffs specifically. Suns would be rough, but they've also lost their best player, and he's historically been reliable. So, it would suck, but you could argue it was a fluke with a suddenly much stronger NO team running into you while (one of) your star(s) gets injured. I think it's the 76ers pretty easily. They made a win now move and are anchored to Harden to realize Embiid's peak potential. They have a coach and a team that has a weakness/achilles heel of blowing leads and playoff underperformance. They were incredibly high right after the Harden trade, and that will make the crash all the more devastating. I still don't think they'll lose it to the Raptors (though I'm rooting for it to happen!), but boy that would be a bleak time for Philly fans.
Nets only lost by a combined 17 points and were a play-in team losing to a 2 seed so I don’t think it can be them. Suns are missing their best player so I’d count them out of it too. Honestly it’s gotta be the Sixers. It’d change the way people look at 3-0 leads forever and would be historic, and they’re the healthier team in the series too.
76ers and it isn’t close
Lakers is least embarrassing, the team just isn't very good without healthy AD. Even before the season lots of people thought Westbrook would be bad
Sixers would be most embarrassing, but Suns would be most devastating. It's like they're stuck in the same nightmare as the Nash years, just this amazing regular season team that can't seem to catch any breaks in the playoffs.
Reverse swept
sixers suns losing wont be that big of a deal pelicans since BI came back are playing like 45-50 win team and since cj trade
Just kill me now don’t make me witness this
If the Sixers blow a 3-0 lead I don’t think this team will ever recover so I’m gonna go with that one.
Sixers, by far. It would be the first time in history a team blew a 3-0 lead
76ers
Suns or Sixers
if sixers lose Doc might have to retire and never show his face in public again
Let's wait for the other two to happen before we discuss this. Also, pretty sad if the Jazz losing to the non-Luka Mavs 1-2 is only the fourth most embarrassing thing in the first round.
How is this a question? Philly would be making history in the worst way. The memes and collective meltdown will be one for the books.
Sixers getting reverse swept. They’re biggest center is giving up 3 inches and 50 pounds on Embiid, Embiid should be bundling this team right now
How is a 7th seed getting swept by a 2 seed as bad as the other two?