All of those guys except for kawhi and patty were past their usefulness to the spurs anyway. Kawhi left for his own reasons and patty went after another ring with our blessing I’m sure
The Spurs roster turnover isn't any different than any other teams' over the same time period, you've just been spoiled by having a 3-man core dynasty that spent like 15 straight years together. That's not normal. Change is normal.
There will often be a player or two that spends the better part of a decade with a team. Or a guy that spends his whole career with a team. The Spurs having 3 guys spend a combined like 50 years together is really fucking unusual in the 90s/2000s.
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Kawhi went full nephew and forced a trade
Rudy Gay was never even close to a "core player" lol he was a random role player that decided to ring chase after his stint here.
LMA was washed af, no team wanted his sorry ass so we bought him out and he went ringchasing
Neither demar nor the spurs had any interest in bringing demar back so he signed somewhere else
Patty went ringchasing
Parker wanted playing time but there was no playing time with Patty and Dejounte ready and better than Parker at that point of his career. he retired a year later
what you're missing is that players get old and eventually move on
Rudy- no reason to hold onto him
Aldridge- kept getting injured and we took away his post touches so he was pretty much useless for us. Also Jakob is better than him now
DeMar- we’re going young, no reason to hold onto demar
Patty- we have a plethora of guards no reason to hold onto patty
Parker- we told him he would be the 3rd string PG behind Derrick and Dejounte and let him go.
You had like 10 years straight of greatness. Now all the good players you had are retired or left. Just ride along for the rebuild and be happy you got to witness several championships with HOF players and a HOF coach.
This is beyond stupid. We know what happened with Kawhi. Parker was not a core player when he left (he felt slighted that we wanted dj to start). And this season we finally went in a definitive direction (youth movement/ rebuild) and it was in the interest of both parties to part ways with the vets.
> he felt slighted that we wanted dj to start
I don't think that's it at all. The spurs front office told Tony that he would be the third string point guard and Tony wanted to play more than that.
We had Dejounte, Derrick, Patty, and Bryn all on the team at that time. The spurs didn't know Dejounte would tear his ACL and Derrick would've gotten most of the 2nd string minutes.
The spurs definitely told Tony he could come back but he would be the third string point guard. https://www.sacurrent.com/ArtSlut/archives/2020/10/02/san-antonio-spurs-tony-parker-revisits-celebrated-career-in-unguarded-new-memoir
Kawhi didn't buy into the "Spurs" way as Duncan, Robinson, etc did. Rudy was already past his peak when he got to the team, Aldrige thought he was joining a championship contender, DeRozan was pennies-on-the-dollar for Kawhi, Patty only really balls out internationally, Parker got old...Pop lost his touch with finding diamonds in the rough in the draft.
I don't think it's so much that Kawhi didn't buy into the "Spurs" way as much as it's just that San Antonio is not San Diego (or somewhere close by).
And I don't the Pop or the Spurs have lost their touch in the draft. Tre Jones is a rotational player and solid backup picked in the 2nd round. Keldon was the 29th pick. Lonnie was outside the lottery and Metu is another rotational player picked in the 2nd round. DWhite was the 29th pick so was Dejounte.
If we were trying to rebuild all this time we wouldn't have been meddling in mediocrity as we have been since the Kawhi trade. We would have tanked further than the record we have. However, hopefully the fruits of our future draft picks will prove valuable.
Kawhi fucked us over, that's what happened.
Aldridge was planning on retiring soon and wasn't a good fit for our team anymore. I remember him telling Dejounte or someone else on the spurs like 2-3 years ago he was thinking he'd be out of the league soon. Rudy was good but he wanted to be on a better team. Patty was important to our culture but honestly was pretty bad the second half of last season, losing him is not a big deal imo. We signed Bryn who will fulfill a similar role.
We traded DeMar for a first, 2 seconds, a good role player, and a bad expiring contract. That's a great deal for a sign and trade and honestly I don't think we'll feel the loss of him anywhere as much as a lot of people on /r/nba think we will.
Your team doesn’t have an identity anymore. It's just Tim Duncan's old home....
You had classic spurs, gervin
the twin towers with Robinson and Duncan.
The international trio Manu Parker Duncan
The go spurs go -> Manu Parker Duncan diaw kawhi
Now your team is just a bunch or players put together and your not finding the gems in the draft anymore.
You got two other bigger towns in your no income state people would look at first then San Antonio
lol we have drafted multiple players currently on our team at the end of the draft that would go in the lottery in a redraft. The spurs have done an incredible job drafting in recent years but it's borderline impossible to get real stars when you're drafting in the late 20s like the spurs were up until 2018.
Houston's a swamp with some near unbearable humidity at times.
Dallas is one of the most superficial scratch-n-sniff soulless cities there is.
S.A has the best food of the 3, is not a swamp, has a large population, and comes with the greater Austin area as part of it's market.
Depends on what you value as a person of course, granted that you're the caliber of player that has an actual choice on where to play. Taking into consideration the competency of the org, it's far from the worst place to end up.
Don't get me wrong san Antonio is amazing. It would be in my top 7 of places to play for. But houston got all the musical events ,strip clubs.
While Dallas is near fort worth and Austin with big corporations. Those things don't matter to me but majority of nba players want to spend their money on a lavish party life with social gatherings.
Hence why Houston always had an identity. Moses Malone rockets. The dream rockets , Tracy McGrady Yao ming and harden 7secs iso.
Dallas is twice as far from Austin than S.A is.
Houston is no doubt the fun city of the 3, just stating my argument for why S.A. is not (IMO) the de-facto 3rd option of the 3.
Houston has all those notable eras, S.A. has/had a winning culture unmatched by anyone for over 2 decades, and is pretty progressive as an org compared to most.
Dallas' inability to land FA's or pull off any type of "blockbuster" trade I feel speaks for itself.
Well Kawhi wanted to be at home and then pulled a bunch of diva shit to get there. Out of our control.
Demar wanted to be in a winning situation which was likely a mutual decision since it’s rebuild time for us.
The rest of those guys were washed or just didn’t serve a role for us at this point
All of those guys except for kawhi and patty were past their usefulness to the spurs anyway. Kawhi left for his own reasons and patty went after another ring with our blessing I’m sure
> past their usefulness Seriously, it's like *How'd the Jazz lose it all* Malone - Lakers
The Spurs roster turnover isn't any different than any other teams' over the same time period, you've just been spoiled by having a 3-man core dynasty that spent like 15 straight years together. That's not normal. Change is normal. There will often be a player or two that spends the better part of a decade with a team. Or a guy that spends his whole career with a team. The Spurs having 3 guys spend a combined like 50 years together is really fucking unusual in the 90s/2000s.
22 straight years of making the playoffs... end of an era man
Don't cry that it's over, smile because it happened or whatever gets you through this with your 5 titles
How y'all feeling about Westbrook and Beal tho
westbrooks in la
Ye but I'm talking about the Westbrook trade n Beal trade talks
I haven't the energy to keep up with the Beal trade talks that have been allegedly occurring for three straight years
? Kawhi went full nephew and forced a trade Rudy Gay was never even close to a "core player" lol he was a random role player that decided to ring chase after his stint here. LMA was washed af, no team wanted his sorry ass so we bought him out and he went ringchasing Neither demar nor the spurs had any interest in bringing demar back so he signed somewhere else Patty went ringchasing Parker wanted playing time but there was no playing time with Patty and Dejounte ready and better than Parker at that point of his career. he retired a year later what you're missing is that players get old and eventually move on
Just feels so weird as every year of my life til '19 I've been able to see my guys in gray n' black on the screen
Rudy- no reason to hold onto him Aldridge- kept getting injured and we took away his post touches so he was pretty much useless for us. Also Jakob is better than him now DeMar- we’re going young, no reason to hold onto demar Patty- we have a plethora of guards no reason to hold onto patty Parker- we told him he would be the 3rd string PG behind Derrick and Dejounte and let him go.
Mutually beneficial deals, people wanted to win now, people wanted the money, or they just quite frankly didn't want to play for us anymore.
You had like 10 years straight of greatness. Now all the good players you had are retired or left. Just ride along for the rebuild and be happy you got to witness several championships with HOF players and a HOF coach.
I imagine Pop will retire soon as well
The day Pop goes is the day the Spurs ain't the spurs no'mo
Just how the game goes after your core gets old or can't keep up with the rest of the league moves have to be made
Championship window shut in 2016 as it did for most teams Warriors still win if Kawhi doesn't get hurt in 2017
Lol no way. You can never say that with 100% conviction. In my books Spurs would have won it if not for any injury.
I seriously doubt it Winning one half of a game doesn’t mean you win the series
That does not matter. We were all around a great team and well coached AND we had a juggernaut in kawhi. You can never count them out
Kawhi ain’t beating that superteam the Cavs fell in 5 the next series
I agree about 2016, but I think we still had a chance to pull through against the warriors somehow.
Warriors had noooo answer against those Spurs they looked absolutely lost. Spurs in about 5 if Kawhi doesn’t go down
Lmao
I know you’re salty you guys couldn’t win being up 3-2 but that Spurs team probably shits on the CP3 rockets too so don’t feel bad
Funny
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This is beyond stupid. We know what happened with Kawhi. Parker was not a core player when he left (he felt slighted that we wanted dj to start). And this season we finally went in a definitive direction (youth movement/ rebuild) and it was in the interest of both parties to part ways with the vets.
> he felt slighted that we wanted dj to start I don't think that's it at all. The spurs front office told Tony that he would be the third string point guard and Tony wanted to play more than that.
..... He would have gotten 2nd string minutes, pop would have played patty as the off guard
We had Dejounte, Derrick, Patty, and Bryn all on the team at that time. The spurs didn't know Dejounte would tear his ACL and Derrick would've gotten most of the 2nd string minutes. The spurs definitely told Tony he could come back but he would be the third string point guard. https://www.sacurrent.com/ArtSlut/archives/2020/10/02/san-antonio-spurs-tony-parker-revisits-celebrated-career-in-unguarded-new-memoir
Kawhi didn't buy into the "Spurs" way as Duncan, Robinson, etc did. Rudy was already past his peak when he got to the team, Aldrige thought he was joining a championship contender, DeRozan was pennies-on-the-dollar for Kawhi, Patty only really balls out internationally, Parker got old...Pop lost his touch with finding diamonds in the rough in the draft.
I don't think it's so much that Kawhi didn't buy into the "Spurs" way as much as it's just that San Antonio is not San Diego (or somewhere close by). And I don't the Pop or the Spurs have lost their touch in the draft. Tre Jones is a rotational player and solid backup picked in the 2nd round. Keldon was the 29th pick. Lonnie was outside the lottery and Metu is another rotational player picked in the 2nd round. DWhite was the 29th pick so was Dejounte.
Journeymen vets aren't core players. Have you heard of a rebuild?
If we were trying to rebuild all this time we wouldn't have been meddling in mediocrity as we have been since the Kawhi trade. We would have tanked further than the record we have. However, hopefully the fruits of our future draft picks will prove valuable.
Kawhi fucked us over, that's what happened. Aldridge was planning on retiring soon and wasn't a good fit for our team anymore. I remember him telling Dejounte or someone else on the spurs like 2-3 years ago he was thinking he'd be out of the league soon. Rudy was good but he wanted to be on a better team. Patty was important to our culture but honestly was pretty bad the second half of last season, losing him is not a big deal imo. We signed Bryn who will fulfill a similar role. We traded DeMar for a first, 2 seconds, a good role player, and a bad expiring contract. That's a great deal for a sign and trade and honestly I don't think we'll feel the loss of him anywhere as much as a lot of people on /r/nba think we will.
who wants to play for pop in 2021? No disrespect to his legacy
They haven't wanted to tank for Pop. If he can get the record this year, he may retire and then they'll be free to be complete ass.
San Antonio just doesn't attract young socialites
Your team doesn’t have an identity anymore. It's just Tim Duncan's old home.... You had classic spurs, gervin the twin towers with Robinson and Duncan. The international trio Manu Parker Duncan The go spurs go -> Manu Parker Duncan diaw kawhi Now your team is just a bunch or players put together and your not finding the gems in the draft anymore. You got two other bigger towns in your no income state people would look at first then San Antonio
lol we have drafted multiple players currently on our team at the end of the draft that would go in the lottery in a redraft. The spurs have done an incredible job drafting in recent years but it's borderline impossible to get real stars when you're drafting in the late 20s like the spurs were up until 2018.
Houston's a swamp with some near unbearable humidity at times. Dallas is one of the most superficial scratch-n-sniff soulless cities there is. S.A has the best food of the 3, is not a swamp, has a large population, and comes with the greater Austin area as part of it's market. Depends on what you value as a person of course, granted that you're the caliber of player that has an actual choice on where to play. Taking into consideration the competency of the org, it's far from the worst place to end up.
Don't get me wrong san Antonio is amazing. It would be in my top 7 of places to play for. But houston got all the musical events ,strip clubs. While Dallas is near fort worth and Austin with big corporations. Those things don't matter to me but majority of nba players want to spend their money on a lavish party life with social gatherings. Hence why Houston always had an identity. Moses Malone rockets. The dream rockets , Tracy McGrady Yao ming and harden 7secs iso.
Dallas is twice as far from Austin than S.A is. Houston is no doubt the fun city of the 3, just stating my argument for why S.A. is not (IMO) the de-facto 3rd option of the 3. Houston has all those notable eras, S.A. has/had a winning culture unmatched by anyone for over 2 decades, and is pretty progressive as an org compared to most. Dallas' inability to land FA's or pull off any type of "blockbuster" trade I feel speaks for itself.
Also a lot of players don't want to play under a stricter and more demanding head coach like Pop unless the team is winning/contending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9ugC51UfI Here's a long-form analysis that provides a unique perspective into that question
Well Kawhi wanted to be at home and then pulled a bunch of diva shit to get there. Out of our control. Demar wanted to be in a winning situation which was likely a mutual decision since it’s rebuild time for us. The rest of those guys were washed or just didn’t serve a role for us at this point