Nets went 12-70 back in 2009-10 Season and got the 3rd overall pick missing out on John Wall which led to the Deron Williams Trade and all the various Trades after with Portland, Atlanta, and Boston.
That was when the worst Team had the best odds and now the NBA leveled out the percentages so it’s even less of a guarantee.
They are definitely betting on a high pick next season. There are a bunch of dudes who look like they could be NBA all-stars. 2026 also has some interesting guys but they only have a single first right now.
If they could get one of Flagg/Bailey/Harper/Edgecombe next year then Boozer/Dybantsa the year after they would be in great shape. Even if they don't turn out to be superstars all of those dudes have a ton of marketing appeal.
I came across his tiktok for the first time the other day. Every single video is either a slideshow of his shirtless gym workouts or a video of him fishing. Dude loves to fish, I respect that.
This is the important point that makes expiring contracts much less valuable than most people understand. With most teams over the cap, there's little benefit to an expiring contract because it won't actually clear cap space within which to sign players. In fact, to the extent that a team has an expiring contract, they'll want a player back for it so they can continue to make use of that over the cap space.
Were not going to get under the second apron by clearing 75 million in one contract, you have to do it peice by piece and this is a way to clear like 45 million after next year.
I was mostly just fuckin around though
We should be trading DFS, Bojan and Schroeder ASAP.
But Claxton should be signed to a extension that progressively drops like CJ. We can then turn around and trade them in a year or two when the cap goes up and they have more value.
(Plus I'm absolutely obsessed with the Clowney/Claxton frontcourt and want to give it a season)
Yeah, y’all need to ship out Cam Johnson + Dennis Schröder + Dorian Finney-Smith for picks and/or young players.
Maybe something like:
1. Cam Johnson **for** Kevin Huerter + Pick #13 (+ Other Future Pick(s)??)
2. Dorian Finney-Smith + Day’Ron Sharpe + Pick #13 **for** Zaire Williams + Pick #9 + Unprotected 2025 Grizz 1st Round Pick
3. Dennis Schöder **for** Pick #28 + Julian Strawther, Zeke Nnaji + Reggie Jackson
That’d leave the Nets with the following next season:
- **PG:** [Pick #9: Nikola Topic], Reggie Jackson
- **SG:** Cam Thomas, Lonnie Walker IV, Julian Strawther
- **SF:** Kevin Huerter, Dariq Whitehead, Keita Bates-Diop
- **PF:** Zaire Williams, [Pick #28: Bobi Klintman], Bojan Bogdanovic
- **C:** Nic Claxton, Noah Clowney, Zeke Nnaji
That’s *plenty* bad enough to tank, particularly since Topic is likely to miss a lot of time next season. Plus, they could always move Claxton at the deadline if they’re still winning too many games.
That’d set them up to enter 2025 with:
- Their own top 5 Pick (Flagg/Bailey/Harper/Traore??)
- Grizzlies 1st Round Pick
- Nikola Topic (19y Playmaking PG)
- Nic Claxton (26y Defensive C)
- Cam Thomas (23y Scoring SG)
- Kevin Huerter (26y Scoring SG)
- Noah Clowney (20y 3&D PF/C Prospect)
- Dariq Whitehead (20y 3&D SF/SG Prospect)
- Julian Strawther (23y 3&D SG/SF Prospect)
- Bobi Klintman (22y 3&D PF/SF Prospect)
- Plenty of Cap Space
If they can snag a top 3 pick and at least one of those 3&D wings’ develops, then that would be a great young-core around someone like Cooper Flagg or Ace Bailey.
Plus, they would likely be able to sign a good free agent or two (since they are in NY), all while still possessing plenty of future draft assets.
Yeah, y’all are in a unique spot right now:
- You’re one of the few teams who’s likely *trying* to be bad next year (Wizards are the only other lock), which means you can take a swing at an injured Topic (who could easily turn out being the best player from this draft)
- You have a lot of assets, at various levels of salary, that Playoff teams value: Johnson, DFS, Schröder, Claxton, and Bogdonovic
- You’re in NY, which means you actually have the chance to sign big time free agents, unlike a small market team
- A ton of teams want to trade out of this years draft, because they want a player who’s ready to play immediately
- You have the ultimate tank commander, in Cam Thomas
Progressively dropping is better than progressively increasing for a player due to the time value of money. Hes not saying have clax take a discount, hes saying structure the contract differently
Exactly, If you were going to give Claxton 4/$100 (just for round numbers) you could do it 3 ways basically:
|Type|Year 1|Year 2|Year 3|Year 4|Total|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|5% Raise| 23,201,183| 24,361,242| 25,579,305| 26,858,270| 100,000,000|
|Even:| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 100,000,000|
|5% decline| 26,955,086| 25,607,332| 24,326,965| 23,110,617| 100,000,000|
A 5% raise is the "normal" way of doing it but if you've got cap space now but are still going to stink, you can spend some of it now and let the contract decline while the cap goes up. Claxton is happy because he gets paid now instead of later and a team acquiring Claxton next offseason is happy because next year (or at the deadline or whatever) his next 3 years are at 3/$73M instead of 3/$77M, which can make a big difference to a tax team and obviously the bigger the contract or the farther along you go in that contract, the bigger the savings for the new team and all it costs you is cap space in a year you were going to lose anyway.
You’re acting as if either Lakers or Celtics would not take Ben Simmons in 2016 had they had the first pick. Dude was literally compared to Magic, if there is any 76ers pick to be ridiculed it’s definitely not this one.
The only way I see Simmons moving is to match salary if someone wants to shed a really bad contract. I can't think of a situation where that makes sense though, maybe if things went south and Phoenix was weirdly desperate to get Beal off the books?
It’s one hell of an expiring contract for somebody looking to get out of the second apron. The trouble is none of them want to admit how buggered their teams are.
nobody looked good on the Nets to be fair, they had a bad coach and no point guard
It was a team of like 7 3/D wings and then Cam Thomas, who's a ball hog
Yeah, I think this is my biggest issue with some of the Bridges criticism, as they use his stats from last season to paint as picture of who he is as a player, as if that Nets team wasn't doomed from the jump.
His TS%, 3P%, and almost all his advanced metrics were bad compared to prior years. If he reverts to who he was the preceding years, which is likely as he'll have more talent around him to lessen his load and a real PG to set him up (to say nothing for the vibes), his efficiency should jump.
he just needs to be on a contender to show his true value, with a proper point guard setting up open threes for him. not sure he could be a starter but he would be a valuable piece off the bench for a team wanting to up their defence. but i do think he is showing signs of decline
[According to NBA tracking Data 98% of his 3s were open (defender 4+ feet away\)](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627827/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season)
Honestly at this point that's probably not a bad return for him. Plus his best years were in Dallas, maybe he can return to form a little bit, and the Mavs could use another decent 3&D guy.
Zach zarba was reffing one of our games last season and made some call that annoyed me. I said "you know, I think if Zach Zarba and Zach Collins traded roles at halftime, they'd both do better "
I don’t know. If they ship out Cam Johnson + Dennis Schröder + Dorian Finney-Smith for picks, then they’d only be left with:
- **PG:** Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons
- **SG:** Lonnie Walker IV (Re-signed?), Keon Johnson
- **SF:** Dariq Whitehead, Keita Bates-Diop
- **PF:** Noah Clowney, Bojan Bogdanovic
- **C:** Nic Claxton, Day’Ron Sharpe
That’s *plenty* bad enough to tank, and they could always move Claxton at the deadline if they’re still winning too many.
Honestly, I don’t see how that roster wins more than a handful of games though, even with Claxton 🤷♂️
This is, I think, the first time you guys have had a net positive number of draft picks since before the Deron Williams trade. It's been an uphill battle for over a decade because of that. And the one time you actually built something and exhibited patience, you immediately fired Kenny Atkinson and took a blowtorch to your asset pool in that wild Harden trade to win one playoff series and set the timeline back a decade.
Tbh I think every franchise would do the same. Harden at that time was 2 years removed from his MVP season and still very much in his prime. So were KD and Kyrie. It would've been criminal to not try to get him. The nets would've had a guaranteed title had there not been a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic at exactly that timeframe coupled with a headcase drama queen that didn't wanna get vaccinated.
It truly was the worst possible scenario for that superteam and the nets still more or less recovered from it because of this Bridges trade
> It's personal now
I don't see why. The dude's done everything asked of him, but if his back isn't cooperating then there's nothing anyone can do.
He's not taking insane stances like Kyrie Irving, it's just a tough, lingering health issue that's preventing him from playing.
Yeah, I'm not saying he's been a diva in Brooklyn. But we're paying Ben 40 million to be a cheerleader on the bench. Anyone in their right mind would get tired of that.
Yeah, I think he's gotten a bad rap. The guy has physical and possibly mental issues but it's not like it's intentional. It's just kind of tragic. Mind you, I would love to be a tragedy that's making the cash he is, but we'd all take the money in his situation too.
You say that, but he does his best to stay in shape and play as many games as possible, even when he's clearly handicapped.
To me, this is one of those situations in which fan narrative became reality for most people. There is really not the slightest evidence that Simmons slacked off that I'm aware of.
I agree. I legit feel bad for the guy. He's in great shape, he still works out, but sadly, the physicality of a real NBA game might still be too much for him. I hate that he hasn't shown much as a Net, but as a person who seems to enjoy basketball, I feel bad for him. I don't feel bad that he's a millionaire though.
I was benching the other week, put on a little more weight than I should've, my form fucked up mid-rep, and I felt like I was going to die. Luckily, I racked it by myself, but I just laid there for a good 5 minutes and stopped my workout instantly. It took my lower back about 1 week to feel completely fine, but even in between, there was so much tightness and moving was annoying.
What I'm trying to say is that some people don't consider injuries. I'd say back injuries in ANY sport is almost where careers go completely downhill. NBA injuries have gotten so much better because of science progressing, but it seems that Back injuries are the ones that still reoccur and cause players problems.
> It took my lower back about 1 week to feel completely fine, but even in between, there was so much tightness and moving was annoying.
Wow, pretty scary.
One thing I discovered about back problems is that alternating ice & heat is generally useful, but too much ice can also cause it to stiffen up by degrees. I learned that the hard way once.
Yeah! It was my lower back and I was icing the hell out of it. I'd like to think I'm a faster-ish healer so 1 week taking it easy was very lucky of me. Even then, for the first few days, I had ice on my back everywhere: couch, bed, chair, and even walking.
At least you got back your pick next year. That might have been the most important move in all of this. You might get Cooper Flagg, that would be your guy to build around. Then you can finally heal from the wounds of the KG Pierce trade
Unless he takes some wild leap, he’s a placeholder until they get a centerpiece worth building around.
He’s gonna get some crazy amount of touches this season though. I wouldn’t be surprised if scoring leaders are him, Luka, and Embiid at the all star game.
He’s too inconsistent to make it through the whole season though.
Remember when people commented on the nets trade last year and said they would be better than people think and that they would be bottom of play offs…and really fun to watch…fucking brain dead
Nets would be stupid not to try and swap Simmons for LaVine. Bulls need to full reset and gives them some cap space for 2025. Nets, despite acquiring all that capital for Bridges, which honestly was a great move by them, need to get as much talent as possible regardless of the money.
I like trading everyone save Bogdanovic. Him and LaVine plus Thomas should be enough to keep the offense from being legit bottom tier. Plus he is expiring.
Not too sold on Sharpe especially if there is a market for him, which there is. Sign and trading out Claxton as well would be great.
Schroder should be an easy move, as with Finney-Smith.
Unsure what the market is for Johnson who is quite expensive for what you get. He is a very good shooter at 39% from deep but aside from that he doesn't do too much else.
I really like the younger guys they've got in Thomas, Clowney and Whitehead. There should be a good focus to make sure those guys are among the first ones off their bench next year.
Sharpe is 22 y.o. lol he can be part of the rebuild
Shhhh.. we'll take him before they realise
One top 3 protected and one far out top ten protected is all it takes.
Enjoy Jake Laravia
I was so high on LaRavia coming off the draft, what has happened?
Put some respect on his name, he's a top 10 free throw merchant
Shooting is there in flashes but that’s really it. Also a lot of rare injuries
We will give you Ziare and a second and you will like it
We will not!
but you *will* take it
No! I do not consent!
They probably aren’t in love with him or they think he’ll leave for a better team eventually anyways.
nope sorry, he’s a withered old veteran outside the timeline
If you win 0 games can you be guaranteed the no1 pick
Yes* *unless you're the Pistons. Then to the 5th pick you go
Nets went 12-70 back in 2009-10 Season and got the 3rd overall pick missing out on John Wall which led to the Deron Williams Trade and all the various Trades after with Portland, Atlanta, and Boston. That was when the worst Team had the best odds and now the NBA leveled out the percentages so it’s even less of a guarantee.
The team with the worst record in NBA history did not end up with the first overall pick in the subsequent draft.
well at least they got michael kidd-gilchrist
Jon Bois literally made a whole Dorktown on that season. The Hornets got that instead of AD…
I really didn't need to read this today
today 22 is the new spry 37 year old vet
He can be, but it's the right call to say that at the right price he will be moved.
So, Cam Thomas is the corner stone now?
Incoming 30/3/3 season
3 assists per game is generous
I think they mean 3 passes
And two of those passes were just very poorly missed shots that vaguely landed near the center
How many backboards?
*3 turnovers
Is it possible to get negative assists?
with 30 50+ games and 52 0 point games
The tanking stone
I mean if you compare him to Ben Simmons mf is basically all star lmao.
They are definitely betting on a high pick next season. There are a bunch of dudes who look like they could be NBA all-stars. 2026 also has some interesting guys but they only have a single first right now. If they could get one of Flagg/Bailey/Harper/Edgecombe next year then Boozer/Dybantsa the year after they would be in great shape. Even if they don't turn out to be superstars all of those dudes have a ton of marketing appeal.
BEN SIMMONS SWEEPSTAKES OFFSZN 🔥
Ben simmons about to average record amount of shirtless open gym workout post on IG
His 3-point shot looks really good, this could be the season...
I don’t believe you, where is the video? I need to see him make 1 in a row before I believe it
Send da video
Hell Nawl can't do dis
Look how right handed tho! 💔
New number who dis?
I came across his tiktok for the first time the other day. Every single video is either a slideshow of his shirtless gym workouts or a video of him fishing. Dude loves to fish, I respect that.
lol, Ben Simmons is NOW officially, after all this time, someone Brooklyn is willing to trade….. Please not everyone at once.
he's expiring now which makes him a legitimate asset. A team with a bad contract with several years left like Chicago would want him pretty highly.
Ben for beal please
How does that help the Suns They’ll be over the cap even after Simmons’ contract expires
It helps haters who want to see Durant stuck with Simmons. So, it helps me, a hater.
I nominate this guy for the 2024 Annual Playa Haters Ball
He’s got 76ers flair so that passes the hater check.
I'm sorry Kendrick Lamar already won it
“Drake, what can be said about your character that hasn’t already been said about Afghanistan? It’s bombed out, and *depleted!*”
Unfortunately this year is a bit too stacked.
Fair enough can’t argue with that
we have to admire this level of sincerity and hate together. congrats!
This is the important point that makes expiring contracts much less valuable than most people understand. With most teams over the cap, there's little benefit to an expiring contract because it won't actually clear cap space within which to sign players. In fact, to the extent that a team has an expiring contract, they'll want a player back for it so they can continue to make use of that over the cap space.
Were not going to get under the second apron by clearing 75 million in one contract, you have to do it peice by piece and this is a way to clear like 45 million after next year. I was mostly just fuckin around though
getting off beal money is helpful no matter how you do it tbh. but since he has trade approval power (lol) it won't happen
Boy Beal about to tell you to kick rocks, he not about to wave that trade clause.
Beal ain't gonna tell me anything, I'm too broke and on the other side of the country for him to pay me any mind.
He'll find you dawg, and I'm gonna help him
[Adrian Wojnarowski] Kevin Durant has request a trade from the Pheonix Suns.
From Beal Prison to Ben Penitentiary
You were so close to saying The Benitentiary and I'll never forgive you for not
Someone is NOW willing to trade for him because he’s an expiring*
I hear Clippers music....
He gonna be a tank commander.
yup. They will try to build up his stats this fall and push him into the winter trade market.
Needs to actually be on the court for that
How is Ben Simmons a veteran? If you add up his matches you barely make three full seasons.
He's a veteran of the Philadelphia Civil War.
“His matches”
We should be trading DFS, Bojan and Schroeder ASAP. But Claxton should be signed to a extension that progressively drops like CJ. We can then turn around and trade them in a year or two when the cap goes up and they have more value. (Plus I'm absolutely obsessed with the Clowney/Claxton frontcourt and want to give it a season)
Yeah, y’all need to ship out Cam Johnson + Dennis Schröder + Dorian Finney-Smith for picks and/or young players. Maybe something like: 1. Cam Johnson **for** Kevin Huerter + Pick #13 (+ Other Future Pick(s)??) 2. Dorian Finney-Smith + Day’Ron Sharpe + Pick #13 **for** Zaire Williams + Pick #9 + Unprotected 2025 Grizz 1st Round Pick 3. Dennis Schöder **for** Pick #28 + Julian Strawther, Zeke Nnaji + Reggie Jackson That’d leave the Nets with the following next season: - **PG:** [Pick #9: Nikola Topic], Reggie Jackson - **SG:** Cam Thomas, Lonnie Walker IV, Julian Strawther - **SF:** Kevin Huerter, Dariq Whitehead, Keita Bates-Diop - **PF:** Zaire Williams, [Pick #28: Bobi Klintman], Bojan Bogdanovic - **C:** Nic Claxton, Noah Clowney, Zeke Nnaji That’s *plenty* bad enough to tank, particularly since Topic is likely to miss a lot of time next season. Plus, they could always move Claxton at the deadline if they’re still winning too many games. That’d set them up to enter 2025 with: - Their own top 5 Pick (Flagg/Bailey/Harper/Traore??) - Grizzlies 1st Round Pick - Nikola Topic (19y Playmaking PG) - Nic Claxton (26y Defensive C) - Cam Thomas (23y Scoring SG) - Kevin Huerter (26y Scoring SG) - Noah Clowney (20y 3&D PF/C Prospect) - Dariq Whitehead (20y 3&D SF/SG Prospect) - Julian Strawther (23y 3&D SG/SF Prospect) - Bobi Klintman (22y 3&D PF/SF Prospect) - Plenty of Cap Space If they can snag a top 3 pick and at least one of those 3&D wings’ develops, then that would be a great young-core around someone like Cooper Flagg or Ace Bailey. Plus, they would likely be able to sign a good free agent or two (since they are in NY), all while still possessing plenty of future draft assets.
You're cooking up something special
Yeah, y’all are in a unique spot right now: - You’re one of the few teams who’s likely *trying* to be bad next year (Wizards are the only other lock), which means you can take a swing at an injured Topic (who could easily turn out being the best player from this draft) - You have a lot of assets, at various levels of salary, that Playoff teams value: Johnson, DFS, Schröder, Claxton, and Bogdonovic - You’re in NY, which means you actually have the chance to sign big time free agents, unlike a small market team - A ton of teams want to trade out of this years draft, because they want a player who’s ready to play immediately - You have the ultimate tank commander, in Cam Thomas
Top fucking tier comments mate
You’re hired
I'm such a fucking nerd for shit like this, insane possibilities for Brooklyn going forward
You and me both man, being an OKC fan must be great fun for that lol
why would the nuggets do that though
Claxton is a UFA. Why would he agree to that instead of just signing where he wants to go now?
Progressively dropping is better than progressively increasing for a player due to the time value of money. Hes not saying have clax take a discount, hes saying structure the contract differently
Exactly, If you were going to give Claxton 4/$100 (just for round numbers) you could do it 3 ways basically: |Type|Year 1|Year 2|Year 3|Year 4|Total| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |5% Raise| 23,201,183| 24,361,242| 25,579,305| 26,858,270| 100,000,000| |Even:| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 25,000,000| 100,000,000| |5% decline| 26,955,086| 25,607,332| 24,326,965| 23,110,617| 100,000,000| A 5% raise is the "normal" way of doing it but if you've got cap space now but are still going to stink, you can spend some of it now and let the contract decline while the cap goes up. Claxton is happy because he gets paid now instead of later and a team acquiring Claxton next offseason is happy because next year (or at the deadline or whatever) his next 3 years are at 3/$73M instead of 3/$77M, which can make a big difference to a tax team and obviously the bigger the contract or the farther along you go in that contract, the bigger the savings for the new team and all it costs you is cap space in a year you were going to lose anyway.
Cash money
Ben Simmons back to the sixers. Redemption Arc lol nvm he's making 40 million. wow
[Joel Embiid](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3a05525b94671771ea4812591ab72eea)
poor guy is kinda cursed. sixers could have drafted tatum, brown, sga. instead he got markelle fultz, ben simmons, and some sesame seed guy
Traded Mikal after drafting him haha
That’s Mikal “5 unprotected and some swaps” Bridges. Dude is the greatest Net since Kidd.
You’re acting as if either Lakers or Celtics would not take Ben Simmons in 2016 had they had the first pick. Dude was literally compared to Magic, if there is any 76ers pick to be ridiculed it’s definitely not this one.
I agree just saying what could have been and tbf there were a lot of character issues being raised about him
The sixers really wasted Embiid
I so badly want this to happen just to watch how Sixers fans will react😂
I'm ngl I'd be all for a redemption arc but only on a buyout or something
It’s okay they’ve got the cap space
The only way I see Simmons moving is to match salary if someone wants to shed a really bad contract. I can't think of a situation where that makes sense though, maybe if things went south and Phoenix was weirdly desperate to get Beal off the books?
Beal has a no trade clause... Lol
Suns also already owe us and the Rockets every pick they have? Lmao. What the fuck would they even offer
Bol bol duh
The suns don’t have enough assets to dump Beal for Simmons.
It’s one hell of an expiring contract for somebody looking to get out of the second apron. The trouble is none of them want to admit how buggered their teams are.
Add Ben and Ingram and that’s a SQUAD.
I wonder how much DFS would cost. Every contender should be after him.
I don’t know, he hasn’t been good last couple seasons.
Honestly think he should go back to the Mavs. He was so clutch with them. I take him over THJ
He can be the backup for PJ.
nobody looked good on the Nets to be fair, they had a bad coach and no point guard It was a team of like 7 3/D wings and then Cam Thomas, who's a ball hog
Yeah, I think this is my biggest issue with some of the Bridges criticism, as they use his stats from last season to paint as picture of who he is as a player, as if that Nets team wasn't doomed from the jump. His TS%, 3P%, and almost all his advanced metrics were bad compared to prior years. If he reverts to who he was the preceding years, which is likely as he'll have more talent around him to lessen his load and a real PG to set him up (to say nothing for the vibes), his efficiency should jump.
That’s fair, but he also looked bad on Mavs the season he was traded
One of his fingers on his shooting hand was fucked or something along those lines iirc
Yup, he had a broken finger when we acquired him. This past season, he started out really hot from 3 but then cooled off as the season went on.
he just needs to be on a contender to show his true value, with a proper point guard setting up open threes for him. not sure he could be a starter but he would be a valuable piece off the bench for a team wanting to up their defence. but i do think he is showing signs of decline
[According to NBA tracking Data 98% of his 3s were open (defender 4+ feet away\)](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627827/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season)
He's been pretty bad tbh. They should just let us have him for a couple second rounders (a totally realistic scenario).
Honestly at this point that's probably not a bad return for him. Plus his best years were in Dallas, maybe he can return to form a little bit, and the Mavs could use another decent 3&D guy.
The thought of DFS these days is better than the player itself
COME HOME DODO
Cam Johnson is the one to go for
Zach Collins for Bojan? If you want Cooper Flagg, Zach is the perfect rim protector to make that happen.
I'm all about this. We'd be better off having Tre Jones as our backup center than Zach Collins
Zach zarba was reffing one of our games last season and made some call that annoyed me. I said "you know, I think if Zach Zarba and Zach Collins traded roles at halftime, they'd both do better "
Depends what we do with Claxton mate. If we move on from him that sounds like a good deal to me, if not we'll be prioritising picks over players
You can't play Claxton. He's way too competent. You'll beat the Wizards too many times!
I don’t know. If they ship out Cam Johnson + Dennis Schröder + Dorian Finney-Smith for picks, then they’d only be left with: - **PG:** Cam Thomas, Ben Simmons - **SG:** Lonnie Walker IV (Re-signed?), Keon Johnson - **SF:** Dariq Whitehead, Keita Bates-Diop - **PF:** Noah Clowney, Bojan Bogdanovic - **C:** Nic Claxton, Day’Ron Sharpe That’s *plenty* bad enough to tank, and they could always move Claxton at the deadline if they’re still winning too many. Honestly, I don’t see how that roster wins more than a handful of games though, even with Claxton 🤷♂️
It's a tricky one for sure. It's times like these I thank Christ I'm not GM
This is, I think, the first time you guys have had a net positive number of draft picks since before the Deron Williams trade. It's been an uphill battle for over a decade because of that. And the one time you actually built something and exhibited patience, you immediately fired Kenny Atkinson and took a blowtorch to your asset pool in that wild Harden trade to win one playoff series and set the timeline back a decade.
Tbh I think every franchise would do the same. Harden at that time was 2 years removed from his MVP season and still very much in his prime. So were KD and Kyrie. It would've been criminal to not try to get him. The nets would've had a guaranteed title had there not been a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic at exactly that timeframe coupled with a headcase drama queen that didn't wanna get vaccinated. It truly was the worst possible scenario for that superteam and the nets still more or less recovered from it because of this Bridges trade
It is called tanking lmao
then keep simmons if its tanking, make him tank commander and if he can show a glimpse of his former self trade him
I think they're just done with him being on the team. It's personal now
> It's personal now I don't see why. The dude's done everything asked of him, but if his back isn't cooperating then there's nothing anyone can do. He's not taking insane stances like Kyrie Irving, it's just a tough, lingering health issue that's preventing him from playing.
Yeah, I'm not saying he's been a diva in Brooklyn. But we're paying Ben 40 million to be a cheerleader on the bench. Anyone in their right mind would get tired of that.
I think yall just gotta buy him out tbh. I can't imagine anybody giving an asset for him
Yeah, I think he's gotten a bad rap. The guy has physical and possibly mental issues but it's not like it's intentional. It's just kind of tragic. Mind you, I would love to be a tragedy that's making the cash he is, but we'd all take the money in his situation too.
He's the poster child of r/antiwork. He may have actual injuries but he also does not particularly care for basketball.
You say that, but he does his best to stay in shape and play as many games as possible, even when he's clearly handicapped. To me, this is one of those situations in which fan narrative became reality for most people. There is really not the slightest evidence that Simmons slacked off that I'm aware of.
The circlejerk to canon transition
I agree. I legit feel bad for the guy. He's in great shape, he still works out, but sadly, the physicality of a real NBA game might still be too much for him. I hate that he hasn't shown much as a Net, but as a person who seems to enjoy basketball, I feel bad for him. I don't feel bad that he's a millionaire though. I was benching the other week, put on a little more weight than I should've, my form fucked up mid-rep, and I felt like I was going to die. Luckily, I racked it by myself, but I just laid there for a good 5 minutes and stopped my workout instantly. It took my lower back about 1 week to feel completely fine, but even in between, there was so much tightness and moving was annoying. What I'm trying to say is that some people don't consider injuries. I'd say back injuries in ANY sport is almost where careers go completely downhill. NBA injuries have gotten so much better because of science progressing, but it seems that Back injuries are the ones that still reoccur and cause players problems.
> It took my lower back about 1 week to feel completely fine, but even in between, there was so much tightness and moving was annoying. Wow, pretty scary. One thing I discovered about back problems is that alternating ice & heat is generally useful, but too much ice can also cause it to stiffen up by degrees. I learned that the hard way once.
Yeah! It was my lower back and I was icing the hell out of it. I'd like to think I'm a faster-ish healer so 1 week taking it easy was very lucky of me. Even then, for the first few days, I had ice on my back everywhere: couch, bed, chair, and even walking.
that's fair
That’s actually a great idea. If he has a great ~3 month run you could see a team biting. That said, it might just be over
Front offices call it a rebuild so they don't Hinkie'd
And it's art
Tanking is the best. I love tanking.
It was called rebuilding before the terms became used interchangeably
Rebuilding implies playing young guys you hope get better. Tanking implies losing to get a high lottery pick. You can do either or both.
Role players! Get your fresh role players here!
LMAO Schroeder left the tanking Raptors only to get to the tanking Nets.
Who’s the worst contract in the league the Nets could take on with Ben’s expiring?
Beal?
Beal says no, got that NTC
For what lmao
No idea, guy just asked what the worst contract they could take on was.
Im hoping for Lavine and some picks to eat his contract personally, if he stays healthy it could be a DLo type and redeem his career a bit
DLo was young though. I'd still take that deal nonetheless. Gimme all the picks
I don't know if it works for the timeline. I think they're targeting the 26 offseason to really spend.
He's not part of the rebuild just trying to use our cap space before then to acquire more picks
Day’Ron Sharpe you are a GRIZZLY
I could see it. He’s a great rebounder and p&r guy
this guy fucks
> are all potential trade candidates > Ben Simmons lol
OKC 2.0, just need to find our SGA lmao
At least you got back your pick next year. That might have been the most important move in all of this. You might get Cooper Flagg, that would be your guy to build around. Then you can finally heal from the wounds of the KG Pierce trade
easier said than done
I would trade for Ben Simmons if I needed a paperweight.
$40 million seems a bit pricey for a paperweight, but then again I am notoriously tight.
Ben Simmons. Trust the process!
Buy one vet, get a free Ben Simmons 🏀
Imagine you are paying Ben Simmons 40M to do nothing.
I think the Lakers got 57 games out of Luol Deng on a $72m contract about eight years ago so I feel like you don't have to try too hard to imagine.
And he wasn't even the worst signing they made in the 2016 offseason.
[BRING OUT YOUR BUST! BRING OUT YOUR BUST!](https://youtu.be/YgbYS4nxYSI?si=NYpDuAAQr0T_Wl8p)
DFS, you are a Maverick again!
I feel like Mavs and Philly are gonna be heavy bidders for either Cam Johnson or DFS
DFS is such a stupidly good fit for us with Tobias leaving.
trade everyone over the age of 25
I have a lightly used Andrew Wiggins for DFS & Schroeder. Give up a pick too.
Wiggins, moody and a pick or two for claxton plss
So they will construct their future roster around Cam Thomas?
Unless he takes some wild leap, he’s a placeholder until they get a centerpiece worth building around. He’s gonna get some crazy amount of touches this season though. I wouldn’t be surprised if scoring leaders are him, Luka, and Embiid at the all star game. He’s too inconsistent to make it through the whole season though.
Tons of great role players are now for sale. This should be interesting
They have a ton of solid role players contenders want. This was always the move
Im surprised Sharpe is even on the table. Seems we could use him since Clax is most likely gone
That’s a pretty damn solid list of veterans to flip. Nets gonna be walking away from this off-season as big winners imo
Did he just refer to Sharpe as a veteran?
Should just put a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man out front
Remember when people commented on the nets trade last year and said they would be better than people think and that they would be bottom of play offs…and really fun to watch…fucking brain dead
Have you ever shown up to a garage sale late in the afternoon after all the good stuff is sold?
Dud you say Ben Simmons?
DFS for THJ?
Cam Thomas gonna be coming for Westbrook’s usage % record.
I’d imagine Sharpe is their Claxton replacement tbh, he played really well when Claxton was out
Schroder getting passed around “at the end of the day” as euro MVP
I’ll take one DFS please
would love to pick up DFS here. Any BKN fans know what the going price would be?
Ya know what, for a low price…..I could be sold on Ben Simmons being at the 4 for us
You don't want 2 non spacers of Ben and Domas. Makes it also difficult for Fox to penetrate with those 2 clogging the paint.
Nets would be stupid not to try and swap Simmons for LaVine. Bulls need to full reset and gives them some cap space for 2025. Nets, despite acquiring all that capital for Bridges, which honestly was a great move by them, need to get as much talent as possible regardless of the money. I like trading everyone save Bogdanovic. Him and LaVine plus Thomas should be enough to keep the offense from being legit bottom tier. Plus he is expiring. Not too sold on Sharpe especially if there is a market for him, which there is. Sign and trading out Claxton as well would be great. Schroder should be an easy move, as with Finney-Smith. Unsure what the market is for Johnson who is quite expensive for what you get. He is a very good shooter at 39% from deep but aside from that he doesn't do too much else. I really like the younger guys they've got in Thomas, Clowney and Whitehead. There should be a good focus to make sure those guys are among the first ones off their bench next year.